[01:41] <magcius> micahg: ping
[01:41] <micahg> magcius: hi
[01:42] <magcius> micahg: what's the pkg-config package for libmozjs?
[01:42] <sri> howdy all... does anybody know how I can get the firefox-js pkgconfig file going?
[01:42] <sri> it's a requirement for building gjs for gnome-shell
[01:42] <micahg> magcius: mozilla-js
[01:42] <magcius> micahg: has it changed recently¿
[01:42] <micahg> sri: no it's not
[01:42] <magcius> micahg: for us it is.
[01:43] <micahg> magcius: who are you? :)
[01:43] <sri> micahg: well it's what jhbuild is telling me..
[01:43] <magcius> micahg: I'm a gnome-shell contributor?
[01:43] <magcius> micahg: gjs looks for firefox-js
[01:44] <magcius> micahg: additionally, you may want to look at http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/tree/tools/build/jhbuildrc-gnome-shell#n46
[01:44] <micahg> that doesn't exist, it should be mozilla-js
[01:44]  * micahg checks debian
[01:45] <magcius> hm, looks like it's mozilla-js on my system too
[01:45] <sri> yeah, I have that as well, but I think mozilla-js requires mozilla-nspr
[01:45] <magcius> micahg: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gjs/tree/configure.ac#n102
[01:45] <sri> or mozilla's version of nspr to be succinct.
[01:45] <micahg> yeah, it requires nspr
[01:46] <magcius> sri: there's only one nspr: it's the "NetScape Portable Runtime"
[01:46] <micahg> magcius: yep, that's what Debian and Ubuntu package
[01:47] <magcius> micahg: what about xulrunner-js?
[01:47]  * micahg is checking
[01:47] <magcius> micahg: see the configure.in script
[01:48] <micahg> yeah, it's part of libmozjs for xul1.8
[01:48] <micahg> BTW, I finally have the wrapper installable so there shouldn't be any more can't run gnome-shell in maverick
[01:49] <micahg> I just need to test it before uploading
[01:49] <magcius> micahg: we still have to support old versions :)
[01:49] <magcius> micahg: ok, any reason why it looks like the package check is failing?
[01:49] <sri> xulrunner-js is part of libmozjs for xulrunner 1.8?
[01:50] <micahg> magcius: what error are you getting?
[01:50] <micahg> sri: yes, at least in Ubuntu through karmic
[01:50] <magcius> micahg: I'm not on Ubuntu, sri is getting:
[01:50] <magcius> micahg: well, pkg-config/gjs is complaining that firefox-js is not found
[01:50] <magcius> micahg: which means that it can't find either mozilla-js or xulrunner-js
[01:51] <micahg> well, is xulrunner-dev installed?
[01:51] <sri> yeah it's looking for firefox-js which doesn't give a lot of hits in google.
[01:51] <micahg> sri: what Ubuntu release?
[01:51] <sri> I hvae xulrunner-2.0-dev installed
[01:51] <sri> I have lucid
[01:51] <sri> 10.04
[01:51] <sri> I think I have some moz ppa's installed.
[01:52] <magcius> sri: ls /usr/lib/pkgconfig/{mozilla,xulrunner}-js.pc
[01:52] <micahg> sri: oh, I don't have that installed ATM
[01:52] <sri> I have no xulrunner-js.pc
[01:52] <sri> but mozilla-js.pc exists.
[01:52] <magcius> it SHOULD find that
[01:52] <sri> 2
[01:52] <magcius> sri: mozilla-js-2?
[01:52] <micahg> sri: right xulrunner-js.pc is gone in lucid
[01:53] <magcius> I wonder why people didn't get this error earlier
[01:53] <sri> only mozilla-js.pc exists.
[01:53] <magcius> sri: when did it start happening?
[01:53]  * micahg isn't familiar with PKG_CHECK_EXISTS syntax yet
[01:54] <sri> um.. I think about 3 weeks ago.
[01:54] <micahg> sri: pkg-config --exists mozilla-js && echo 1
[01:54] <sri> does not echo 1
[01:55] <micahg> hmm
[01:55] <magcius> sri: do you have 64-bit?
[01:55] <micahg> sri: try install xulrunner-dev
[01:55] <sri> no, I'm using 32-bit
[01:55] <micahg> which will be 1.9.2 on lucid
[01:55] <micahg> we haven't started trying to build w/2.0 yet, so I have no idea if there are issues
[01:56] <sri> I'm getting thata package form this ppa:
[01:56] <sri> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/
[01:56] <micahg> sri: yep, I help maintain that :)
[01:56] <sri> :)
[01:57] <micahg> sri: we'll probably start trying to test build later next month after final freeze (Sept 16)
[01:57] <sri> hmm.. I have some package conflict.
[01:57] <micahg> sri: yeah, you have to remove 2.0 to install 1.9.2
[01:57] <sri> it conflicts with xulrunner-2.0-dev
[01:57] <sri> looks like you're way ahead of me.
[01:57] <sri> I'll dpkg -r it
[01:57] <micahg> sri: do you need it to work with 2.0 ATM?
[01:57] <sri> I doubt it.
[01:57] <micahg> they're at beta 5
[01:58] <sri> excellent work on firefox4.. I'm very happy with it.
[01:58] <micahg> sri: I have to run, I'll be back in about 90 minutes or so
[01:58] <magcius> micahg: what exactly have you done so far?
[01:58] <micahg> magcius: will you be here in 90 minutes
[01:58] <magcius> micahg: certainly
[01:58] <micahg> magcius: I'll tell you then :)
[01:58] <micahg> bbiab
[01:59] <sri> so pkg-config --exists mozilla-js && echo 1 still doesn't echo 1. :)
[03:20] <micahg> sri: magcius: firefox-js is from Firefox 2
[03:20] <magcius> magcius: ok.
[03:20] <magcius> er
[03:20] <magcius> micahg: ok
[03:21] <micahg> magcius: so what was your question before?
[03:21] <magcius> micahg: not much, just smalltalk.
[03:22] <magcius> micahg: I'm curious why he still doesn't have mozilla-js
[03:22] <magcius> micahg: even though he has /usr/lib/pkgconfig/mozilla-js.pc
[03:22] <micahg> magcius: he should if he installed xulrunner-dev
[03:22]  * micahg will have to investigate
[03:22] <magcius> micahg: he said he did.
[03:23] <magcius> sri: you installed xulrunner-dev, right?
[03:23] <micahg> oh, this is new then
[03:26] <sri> magcius: I did
[03:26] <sri> micahg: oh, really/ firefox2? bleah.
[03:26] <sri> we shouldn't depend on such an old version
[03:26] <micahg> sri: dpkg -L xulrunner-1.9.2-dev | grep mozilla
[03:26] <magcius> sri: no no, we're not
[03:26] <micahg> sri: dpkg -L xulrunner-1.9.2-dev | grep pkgconfig
[03:26] <micahg> that's better
[03:27] <magcius> sri: it uses firefox-js as a last resort
[03:27] <sri> ah ha.
[03:27] <sri> so maaybe firefox-js is a red herring
[03:27] <magcius> sri: no, it's not a red herring
[03:27] <micahg> sri: yeah, if you get it, you have a problem with your install :P
[03:27] <magcius> micahg: I hate Ubuntu because of Debian :P
[03:27] <micahg> magcius: huh?
[03:28] <micahg> Debian also has mozilla-js
[03:28] <sri> so, what should we do here?  all I got now is still the same aas before mozilla-js.pc
[03:28] <magcius> micahg: APT
[03:28] <micahg> apt ftw!
[03:28] <sri> dude, apt is da shizzle-love.
[03:28] <magcius> Wait wait.
[03:28] <magcius> Why do you guys love apt?
[03:28] <micahg> sri wait, so it works or no
[03:28] <sri> let me try compiling gcj
[03:29] <magcius> micahg: basically, if you upgrade a package, it won't mark it as upgraded
[03:29] <micahg> magcius: dependency calculation, self contained packages, PPAs
[03:29] <micahg> magcius: why do you need it marked as upgraded
[03:29] <magcius> micahg: the first two, package managers have done since 2002
[03:29] <magcius> micahg: because you want to install it, you'll remove half your desktop.
[03:29] <magcius> er
[03:29] <sri> sorry, I meant gjs
[03:29] <magcius> if you want to remove it
[03:29] <magcius> micahg: you can't downgrade AFAIK
[03:30] <micahg> magcius: ah, yeah, well if you have it from another repo, you can
[03:30] <magcius> micahg: PPAs are basically a hosted repository. The fact that you need a server dedicated to it and building is to show you how complicated it is.
[03:30] <micahg> magcius: I can also build it locally in pbuilder
[03:30] <micahg> PPAs let me share
[03:30] <sri> I'm still having problems, but I think firefox-js is the wrong way to look at this
[03:31] <micahg> sri: what's the output of the command I gave you
[03:31] <sri> micahg: can you re-paste?  is this the one with the echo 1?
[03:31] <micahg> sri: dpkg -L xulrunner-1.9.2-dev | grep pkgconfig
[03:32] <sri> oh right, yeaha I did that.
[03:32] <sri> so the relevant one is:
[03:32] <sri> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/mozilla-js.pc
[03:32] <micahg> sri: I'm assuming you have pkg-config installed?
[03:33] <sri> indeed
[03:33] <sri> otherwise the gnome-shell toolchain is going to break.
[03:33] <sri> I used to do a lot of compiles since the gnome 1.x days
[03:33] <micahg> pkg-config --exists mozilla-js && echo 1
[03:33] <sri> anywayas, Ichecked the configure.ac file to see whata it was checking for
[03:33] <magcius> sri: we already established that :P
[03:33] <sri> the comment sys tht it checks for mozilla-js first, then xulrunner-js, anad firefox-js lasat.
[03:34] <magcius> sri: yep.
[03:34] <magcius> sri: run pkg-config --exists mozilla-js && echo 1
[03:34] <sri> yeh, it doean't print "1" at all
[03:34] <sri> and it should because it is in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/
[03:34] <micahg> sri: something's wrong
[03:35] <sri> as we establieshed in the dpkg -L xulrunner-1.9.2-dev | grep mozilla
[03:35] <sri> output
[03:35] <magcius> sri: echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[03:35] <sri> I just did a env | grep PKG
[03:35] <sri> and there is no pkg_config_path defined
[03:35] <magcius> sri: env won't show it
[03:35]  * micahg doesn't have that set either
[03:35] <sri> it is blank
[03:35] <magcius> Something's wrong then
[03:35] <sri> really? env should show it..
[03:36] <micahg> magcius: pkg-config output should work
[03:36] <sri> yeah looks like it.
[03:36] <micahg> sri: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xulrunner-1.9.2-dev
[03:36] <sri> mozilla-js                       JavaScript - The Mozilla JavaScript Library
[03:36] <micahg> maybe there's a trigger that was misseD?
[03:36] <sri> is what pkg-config --list-all hs
[03:36] <sri> okay, I"ll try tht.
[03:36] <magcius> sri: huh
[03:37] <micahg> sri: that's even weirder
[03:37] <micahg> sri: and you're on lucid?
[03:37] <sri> yep
[03:37] <magcius> sri: reboot
[03:37] <sri> oaky, let me do one other thing.. I ran this from a regulra shell.
[03:38] <magcius> sri: regular shell == tty?
[03:38] <micahg> sri: what shell?
[03:38] <sri> from jhbuild, which sets env values, I'll try your commands gain
[03:38] <sri> jhbuild let's you exec a shell
[03:38] <micahg> ah
[03:38] <micahg> yeah, try from a terminal
[03:38] <sri> this is my PKG_CONFIG_PATH under jhbuild
[03:38] <sri> PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/sri/gnome-shell/install/lib/pkgconfig:/home/sri/gnome-shell/install/share/pkgconfig:/usr/share/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig
[03:39] <sri> I ran: pkg-config --exists mozilla-js && echo 1
[03:39] <sri> and I still got nothing
[03:39] <sri> it's trying its best to screw with me, I swear.
[03:39] <magcius> sri: can you pastebin your /usr/lib/pkgconfig/mozilla-js.pc?
[03:40] <sri> sure
[03:40] <micahg> the only patch we have for gjs is an ltmain patch
[03:41] <sri> http://pastebin.ca/1930226
[03:41] <micahg> sri: sudo aptitude install xulrunner-dev=1.9.2.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1
[03:42] <micahg> so they did bump nspr :(
[03:42] <sri> oh is that wht the problem is?
[03:42] <sri> I was looking at that nspr thing
[03:42] <sri> becuse that failed earlier.
[03:43] <sri> I tried to link firefox-js to mozilla-js to see what it would do
[03:43] <micahg> sri: you only have nspr 4.8.4
[03:43] <micahg> sri: should still fial
[03:43] <micahg> fail
[03:43] <sri> yeah it still fails
[03:43] <micahg> we're going to need to bump nspr
[03:44] <micahg> sri: but if you install the version from lucid-security, it shoudl work
[03:44] <sri> how do Iget that particular package ?
[03:44] <sri> let me check my sources-list
[03:44] <micahg> sri: I gave you the command before
[03:45] <micahg> sri: sudo aptitude install xulrunner-dev=1.9.2.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1
[03:45] <sri> oh I did that already.
[03:45] <magcius> micahg: wait what?
[03:45] <magcius> micahg: they bumped NSPR in pkg-config but you didn't?
[03:46] <micahg> magcius: that's in the daily PPA
[03:46] <sri> micahg: do I need to get rid of xulrunner-2.0?
[03:46] <micahg> sri: you already did that
[03:46] <micahg> sri: I was talking about the 3.6.10pre daily
[03:46] <sri> that's what I thought too, but apt-get upgrade wants to upgraade it.
[03:47] <micahg> sri: upgrade what?
[03:47] <magcius> micahg: wait, what?
[03:47] <magcius> micahg: so he reinstalled firefox from repo, but it didn't update the pkg-config file?
[03:48] <sri> micahg: Thttp://pastebin.ca/1930228
[03:48] <micahg> magcius: I think the issue was he was using the one from the daily that requires nspr 4.8.6 which is only at maverick atm
[03:48] <sri> well crap, dpkg -l tells me that xulrunner-2.0 still exists.
[03:48]  * sri gets rid of it.
[03:48] <micahg> magcius: xul-2.0 is fine
[03:48] <magcius> micahg: but he uninstalled the PPA...
[03:48] <magcius> micahg: and THIS is why I hate PPAs.
[03:48] <sri> no no, I didn't do that yet.
[03:49] <magcius> ...?
[03:49] <magcius> er, this is why I hate APT
[03:49] <micahg> magcius: well, hopefully, I'll be able to make a plugin for software-center to at least handle the mozilla PPAs
[03:49] <micahg> magcius: BTW, there's ppa-purge to get rid of a ppa
[03:49] <micahg> it downgrades :)
[03:49] <magcius> micahg: but that's limited to PPAs.
[03:50] <sri> the PPAs can be confusing, which iswhy you should know what you're doing when you add it.
[03:51] <magcius> They shouldn't be confusing. They should WORK.
[03:51] <micahg> magcius: we're working on it :)
[03:51] <sri> well.. no.. because PPAs are bleeding edge, they'll introduce instability
[03:51] <magcius> sri: they shouldn't introduce bugs in a package manager
[03:51] <micahg> magcius: I use apt-pinning so I don't get unwanted stuff from PPAs
[03:51] <sri> as soon as you add a PPA, you're off the reservation
[03:51] <micahg> magcius: I want to write a plugin for SC to make it easily configurable for people
[03:51] <magcius> wait, wait, if you're a bug tester, you can't have support?
[03:51] <sri> micahg: yes, that's wht I should do.
[03:52] <micahg> magcius: PPAs are supported by the people who make them
[03:52] <magcius> I'm so confused.
[03:52] <magcius> What exactly happened?
[03:52] <sri> magcius: it's like using someone elses git brnch
[03:52] <magcius> No, no.
[03:52] <micahg> sri: do you want all PPAs to require explicit install?
[03:53] <magcius> I'm not talking about bugs in the software. I'm talking about why removing a PPA didn't reinstall the pkg-config file
[03:53] <sri> I'm not sure I understanad what you mean.
[03:53] <micahg> magcius: he didn't remove the PPA :)
[03:53] <sri> magcius: ah yes, that's a problem, you have to apt-get purge or something like that.
[03:54] <sri> but in this case, I didn't purge it..
[03:54] <sri> so, if I remove your PPA, micahg will it fix the problem?
[03:54] <sri> will I lose firefox4? :D
[03:54] <micahg> sri: yes, that's why I'm suggesting explicit install either for that PPA or all PPAs depending on your preference
[03:54] <magcius> micahg: why can't he keep the daily?
[03:55] <sri> nod
[03:55] <magcius> micahg: it should still have a mozilla-js package, right?
[03:55] <micahg> magcius: he can with apt-pinning (the 1.9.2.10 daily will break ATM)
[03:55] <magcius> micahg: do you not have a recent NSPR in that PPA?
[03:55] <micahg> magcius: yes, but that's not the issue
[03:55] <micahg> magcius: we don't keep a daily nspr
[03:55] <micahg> magcius: we'll bump in the repos
[03:56] <magcius> micahg: do you have a backlog for a recent nspr?
[03:56] <sri> so, what is the right step in getting the nspr from lucid-security?  I'm not sure how to do that..
[03:56] <micahg> sri: no, the xulrunner-1.9.2-dev from lucid-security
[03:56] <sri> I'm okay to wait for nspr to be bumped if it will happen in the next couple of daays
[03:56] <micahg> magcius: it's only required for 3.6.9/1.9.2.9 and up
[03:56] <sri> micahg: ah, okay
[03:58] <micahg> sri: add http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/486575/ as /etc/apt/preferences and you won't be prompted to upgrade firefox 3.6 or xulrunner to the daily versions
[03:58] <micahg> just run sudo apt-get update afterwards
[03:58] <sri> done
[03:59] <sri> there is stil the matter of getting the lucid-security xulrunner-dev right?
[03:59] <micahg> sri: you said you did that already
[04:00] <micahg> sri: if you have 1.9.2.8 that's the correct version
[04:00] <sri> ok
[04:00] <sri> but the mozilla-js.pc file still requires the same nspr version
[04:01] <micahg> sri: :(
[04:01] <sri> actually, looking at the pc file I have
[04:01] <sri> Version: 1.9.2.10pre
[04:01] <sri> Requires: mozilla-nspr >= 4.8.6
[04:01] <sri> let's do that command again
[04:02] <sri> ok, let's see what it did now
[04:02] <micahg> mine requires 4.8.4
[04:02] <micahg> sri: yeah, you need the 1.9.2.8
[04:02] <sri> hm.. looks like 1.9.2.8 doesn't really change the pc file
[04:02] <sri> Setting up xulrunner-dev (1.9.2.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1) ...
[04:03] <sri> I ran the aptitude command from above
[04:03] <micahg> sri: sudo aptitude install xulrunner-1.9.2-dev=1.9.2.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1
[04:03] <micahg> oops
[04:03] <sri> and it installed xulrunner-dev again
[04:03] <sri> but the pc file doesn't seem tohave changed
[04:03] <micahg> xulrunner-dev is a transitional package :)
[04:03] <micahg> try the command I just gave you
[04:03]  * micahg thought it would pull in xulrunner-1.9.2-dev...
[04:04] <sri> that looks a lot better from the output
[04:04] <sri> Version: 1.9.2.8
[04:04] <sri> Requires: nspr >= 4.8.4
[04:04] <sri> woo!
[04:04] <sri> gcj passes configure!
[04:04] <sri> er gjs
[04:04] <micahg> \o/
[04:05] <sri> I totally owe you guys a beer
[04:05]  * micahg will make sure nspr is bumped for 4.8.6
[04:05] <sri> you put a lot of time into it, I really appreciate the help
[04:05] <micahg> oops, 3.6.9
[04:05] <micahg> sri: np
[04:05] <sri> of course now gtk3 is broke so no rest for the wicked :)
[04:06] <sri> glad we got pinning in there so we don't have any more breakage.
[04:07] <micahg> sri: personally, I pin all PPAs at 450 except for certain ones, all below 500 except mozilla-security which I want to override the repos, that way, I only get what I want from the PPA and nothing else
[04:09] <magcius> And THAT'S why I hate APT from a tech support perspective. AND why you never use a one-armed man to teach a lesson.
[04:10] <micahg> magcius: well, that's why I want to make pinning easier from software-center so it *is* supportable :)
[04:11] <magcius> micahg: I don't believe in creating hacks to fix broken software :)
[04:11] <micahg> magcius: it's not broken, it works very well, there's just not an interface for it that regular users can easily use :)
[04:44] <sri> micahg: nod
[07:13] <[reed]> grumble
[07:13] <[reed]> now on maverick
[07:13] <[reed]> but there are bugs
[07:13] <micahg> [reed]: with?
[07:21] <[reed]> the kernel
[07:21] <[reed]> and gobi-driver
[07:21] <micahg> oh :(
[07:22] <micahg> once again, I can't really help with those
[07:25] <[reed]> hehe
[07:25] <[reed]> yeah
[07:25] <[reed]> I just want my mobile broadband to work
[07:49] <fta2> micahg, chrisccoulson: could you please have a look at http://codereview.chromium.org/3221007/show ? there are some questions about ubuntu's firefox package(s)
[07:50] <fta2> (in the comments)
[07:51] <micahg> fta2: looks right I think
[07:52]  * micahg didn't read the messages yet, sorry
[07:52] <fta2> there are questions about the locales
[07:54]  * micahg needs to create a google account for this
[08:01] <micahg> fta2: answered
[08:06] <fta2> thanks
[16:08] <dupondje> Thunderbird doesn't give any popup here anymore when new mail arrives ... any idea whats causing that ?
[16:42] <gnomefreak> the coolins extension for Chromium doesnt work. it says it doesnt support Linux yet
[16:55] <gnomefreak> i cant do anything with thunderbird
[17:03] <gnomefreak> this time i can connect to 5 emails. going to gmail.com i can login just fine.
[17:05] <micahg> gnomefreak: maybe gmail limits the # of connections?
[17:08] <gnomefreak> micahg: no it doesnt as it works sometimes and was working fine for maybe 4-5 months
[17:08] <gnomefreak> this started agin recently
[17:08] <gnomefreak> !dpkglock
[17:08] <ubot2> Factoid 'dpkglock' not found
[17:08] <gnomefreak> !lock
[17:08] <ubot2> Factoid 'lock' not found
[17:08] <gnomefreak> damnit
[17:08] <gnomefreak> !aptlock
[17:08] <ubot2> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:12] <gnomefreak> ok think i fixed teh chromium default setting
[17:12] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[17:13] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ugh, I would've preferred guidance rather than do what you want :-/
[17:14] <gnomefreak> you cant use custom it seems. you have to use chromium from drop down
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> micahg - from ted?
[17:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah
[17:17] <gnomefreak> micahg: for example it seems to work this time
[17:17] <micahg> as you pointed out, that would explain why maverick builds in the dailies
[17:22] <gnomefreak> oh this is good. upstream  lost a l10n contact. thunderbird and calendar. seems he took a big work load off others
[17:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, which is it, patch the file or bump NSS and NSPR?
[17:33] <gnomefreak> nope damnit chromium is still prompting me to set as default and it already is and has been for a while
[17:52] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm ok with patching the file
[17:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I'll try a test build then
[17:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: where's the tarball for xul192?  I see it released in the changelog
[18:00] <chrisccoulson> micahg - which changelog? we haven't done a release for xul1.9.2.9 yet
[18:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: oh, I'm seeing things then ;)
[18:02] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i do have a tarball, but it's probably quicker for you to create a new one than for me to upload it somewhere
[18:03] <micahg> k, generating
[18:03] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[18:20] <micahg> patch applied, lets see if it builds :)
[19:02] <micahg> \o/ it seemed to work, now to try on maverick, bbiab
[20:35] <chrisccoulson> micahg - so, xul1.9.2 built ok then?
[20:35] <chrisccoulson> feel free to just upload to maverick
[20:36] <chrisccoulson> it will sit in the queue until after the beta release then
[20:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I'll do it tonight, I just want to test w/maverick pbuilder (first test was lucid)
[20:36] <chrisccoulson> cool, thanks
[20:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll do the same for thunderbird then
[20:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: and I'll add the patch upstream and request landing
[20:37] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[20:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: that should make umd green except for prism (I still need to look at it) and ff3.6 (you need to look at it (breakpad))
[20:39] <micahg> s/breakpad/crashreporter/
[20:39] <chrisccoulson> micahg - that ones being tracked in mozilla bug 591331
[20:40] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 591331 in Breakpad Integration "Allow Linux dumper to work on PTRACE-hardened kernels (Ubuntu 10.10)" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591331
[20:40] <micahg> chrisccoulson: oh, so our side is fixed, but upstream needs to fix then?
[20:40] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no flags set
[20:41] <chrisccoulson> micahg - well, half and half. we are carrying the patch that was landed on mozilla-central and then backed out because it fails with gcc4.3
[20:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, but you didn't request review on the new patch
[21:26] <fta> ok, bye bye sbnc, i use bip now
[21:28] <gnomefreak> fta: is there a way to bypass the set as default option in chromium? it is set as default but it keeps asking anyway
[22:03] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[22:15] <Dimmuxx> any easy way to run 32bit firefox in 64bit ubuntu? I'm so tired of this flash mess :/
[22:15] <micahg> Dimmuxx: no
[22:16] <Dimmuxx> too bad
[22:16] <Dimmuxx> maybe time to use a pae kernel instead then
[22:19] <micahg> Dimmuxx: what video card?
[22:19] <micahg> I haven't had issues since I upgraded to lucid
[22:19] <Dimmuxx> core i3 gpu ;)
[22:20] <Dimmuxx> the issue is when right clicking on some flash stuff
[22:20] <Dimmuxx> it locks up firefox
[22:20] <Dimmuxx> works great in 32bit
[22:21] <Dimmuxx> try right clicking when in google street view for example
[22:21] <Dimmuxx> be sure to have a terminal with killall npviewer.bin ready ;)
[22:22] <micahg> Dimmuxx: lucid?
[22:22] <Dimmuxx> yes
[22:22] <micahg> Dimmuxx: try the 2.11 driver from x-updates PPA
[22:22] <Dimmuxx> so you are saying it's a video driver issue?
[22:22] <micahg> Dimmuxx: possibly
[22:23] <Dimmuxx> it happens to ati users too
[22:23] <Dimmuxx> I'm pretty sure it happens with nvidia too
[22:23] <micahg> ATI KMS is pretty broke in Lucid I thought
[22:23] <Dimmuxx> does it work for you?
[22:23]  * micahg tries in a clean profile
[22:23] <Dimmuxx> I don't see why this specific issue would be video driver related
[22:46] <Dimmuxx> micahg: updating drivers didn't fix it
[22:52] <fta> i don't have any problem with flash & chromium, neither maverick 32 not 64 (using the 32bit plugin with npviewer)
[22:54] <Dimmuxx> right clicking doesn't work at all for me in chromium beta on google maps street view
[22:54] <Dimmuxx> it doesn't seem to register it at all
[23:10] <micahg> Dimmuxx: well, it doesn't work for me either, nspluginwrapper 1.3.0 might fix it, but I haven't had time to get it to build in Ubuntu yet
[23:10] <micahg> Dimmuxx: I've seen a bug about this before
[23:11] <Dimmuxx> micahg: okay, the proper solution would be to force adobe to release a 64bit version again ;)
[23:12] <micahg> 1.  you can't force adobe to do anything, 2 that's unlikely since there aren't many 64 bit browsers in the windows world
[23:13] <micahg> Dimmuxx: the proper solution might be to use a 32 bit plugin-container for flash
[23:14] <Dimmuxx> 32bit oopp would probably work yes
[23:27] <dupondje> Somebody here noticed Thunderbird doesn't give any popup when new mail arrives ?
[23:28] <micahg> dupondje: what releasE?
[23:28] <micahg> and waht version
[23:29] <dupondje> maverick
[23:29] <dupondje> latest :)
[23:29] <micahg> :(
[23:29] <dupondje> 3.1.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[23:29] <micahg> dupondje: well, is there an option to disable it?  I still see them on Lucid w/3.1.2
[23:30] <micahg> dupondje: the old style popup
[23:30] <dupondje> there is a setting to disabled it, but its enabled ...
[23:33] <dupondje> no sound neither btw
[23:34]  * micahg hasn't tested sound in TB3.1 yet
[23:35] <micahg> dupondje: sound is an old bug, just don't remember if it was fixed for 3.1
[23:36] <dupondje> quite boring I don't see any notice when new mail arrives :p
[23:43] <dupondje> so no idea how to solve ?