| cjwatson | marjo: can you show me 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' on this system? | 00:05 |
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| stgraber | any reason the Edubuntu images aren't on the iso tracker ? | 00:16 |
| cjwatson | not built yet, awaiting ubiquity builds | 00:18 |
| stgraber | oh, ok, I didn't follow -release much today so didn't notice a mass rebuild because of ubiquity ;) | 00:19 |
| cjwatson | or pending a respin, if you want to look at it that way | 00:19 |
| cjwatson | plus figured you might want your new artwork in | 00:20 |
| stgraber | indeed ;) thanks | 00:20 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: could you take over? builds to do and post: once ubiquity 2.3.12 is available (end of this publisher, except on armel), Ubuntu desktop and all DVDs; once ubiquity 2.3.12 [armel] and livecd-rootfs 1.150 are available, all armel images | 00:29 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: there's still a question over Kubuntu installation but we may have to resolve that tomorrow at this point | 00:29 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ack | 00:30 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 00:30 |
| GrueMaster | slangasek: Can you clarify whether or not armel is getting a respin? I see cjwatson's comment and it makes me wonder. | 01:00 |
| GrueMaster | oh, nevermind. | 01:00 |
| * GrueMaster eyes are getting fuzzy. | 01:00 | |
| slangasek | GrueMaster: armel respins triggered; ETA: evening | 01:59 |
| GrueMaster | thanks. | 01:59 |
| ScottK | slangasek: I think Kubuntu live is worth respinning with 2.3.12 since the oom problem we are having has an unknown cause, I think it's useful to test with the current code. | 02:20 |
| slangasek | ScottK: ok; DVD builds are already in progress so it'll be a while before I can schedule those | 02:22 |
| slangasek | but I will do so once the queue clears | 02:22 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Thanks. Just give me a ping when it's done please. If I'm not still up I'll take a crack at it in my AM. | 02:24 |
| slangasek | ScottK: 2 of 3 DVD sets done now; kubuntu live not far out | 04:11 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Thanks. Of course I'm just heading off to bed, so I'll pick it up in the morning. | 04:22 |
| slangasek | righto | 04:22 |
| ScottK | Kubuntu i386 and amd64 are up BTW (insomnia). | 05:08 |
| slangasek | yep, posted | 05:21 |
| ScottK | If nothing else the respin gave me a chance to verify Bug #608382 from lucid-proposed. | 05:21 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 608382 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Maverick images burned to usb key on lucid fail to boot - different syslinux version (affects: 50) (dups: 6) (heat: 270)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608382 | 05:21 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: respun everything that I understood was outstanding | 05:21 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Could I have a Kubuntu live powerpc respin. This one looks like it might be worth testing. | 05:51 |
| slangasek | ScottK: running | 05:52 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 05:52 |
| GrueMaster | is kubuntu/ports/daily-preinstalled queued up? | 06:01 |
| ScottK | slangasek: ^^^ That could stand a respin too, if you didn't do it. | 06:04 |
| slangasek | why is there both a kubuntu and a kubuntu-mobile cron.ports_daily-preinstalled in the crontab :/ | 06:05 |
| slangasek | spinning kubuntu | 06:06 |
| ScottK | We do want images of both, but the mobile one is still somewhat broken atm. | 06:07 |
| ScottK | Harrass NCommander for details. | 06:07 |
| GrueMaster | Or on general principle. :P | 06:08 |
| ScottK | Sure. Goes without saying. | 06:25 |
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| ara | morning all! | 07:19 |
| ttx | ara: morning! | 07:19 |
| ara | cjwatson, morning | 07:55 |
| ara | cjwatson, any particular reason why ubuntu netbook i386 is not on the tracker? | 07:55 |
| cjwatson | ara: oh, because it needed respun for new ubiquity and I forgot to tell slangasek this | 08:30 |
| cjwatson | ara: I'll check and respin after breakfast | 08:31 |
| ara | cjwatson, ok, thanks | 08:31 |
| ara | cjwatson, enjoy breakfast | 08:31 |
| ara | with the current problems in ubiquity, can we expect a respin later today? | 09:51 |
| cjwatson | UNE posted | 09:52 |
| cjwatson | possibly | 09:52 |
| ogra | cjwatson, hmm, i wonder if we shouldnt make your livecd-rootfs change subarch independent so i can drop the hack from jasper | 10:04 |
| ogra | (post beta indeed) | 10:04 |
| cjwatson | up to you guys, I was just doing as I was told | 10:05 |
| ogra | yeah, i wasnt brave enough to make it a default for all armel images since i wasnt sure if we would get GL drivers in time | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | ev: I can accept this if you think it's useful, but I was hoping not to have to respin too many times and there are still several other things that look beta-critical outstanding | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | so, what respins do you actively want for this? | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | I assume not Kubuntu | 10:59 |
| ev | cjwatson: we can wait. I just wanted to have that queued up in case fixing other bugs takes longer than we have left | 11:00 |
| cjwatson | ok | 11:01 |
| ScottK | Nice. I was going to accept a Universe package, but LP logged me out and the login service is down. | 12:02 |
| cjwatson | ok, so wubi is sorted pending a rebuild; several important ubiquity bugs are fixed pending a rebuild, still a question mark over Kubuntu AFAIK | 13:04 |
| ScottK | My best guess is that one of the 2.3.10 -> 2.3.12 changes reduced the incidence rate of process spawning causing the Kubuntu OOM problem so that my 1GB install was able to succeed while Riddell's 512MB install still failed. | 13:06 |
| * ScottK was able to install with 2.3.10 after killing off all the non-essential processes he could find to free up memory. | 13:07 | |
| cjwatson | wubi> of course bug 613288 is still theoretically hanging over us | 13:10 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 613288 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "wubi installation failed - boot configuration store could not be opened (affects: 3) (heat: 141)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613288 | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | haven't heard of re-reports of that so far though | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | marjo: regarding your server installation bug, I think it may be a recurrence of bug 227869. Your /proc/cpuinfo may help to confirm. If not that, then I guess it must be a kernel bug of some kind | 13:22 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 227869 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "Server installer should not use -server kernel for non-PAE CPU's (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227869 | 13:22 |
| cjwatson | ttx: will bug 627963 require a server respin? | 13:32 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 627963 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "CC doesn't start correctly, CLC struggles with certificates (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627963 | 13:32 |
| ttx | cjwatson: if we find the cause, maybe | 13:34 |
| * ttx is getting a bit tired of last-day eucalyptus partycrashers | 13:34 | |
| ttx | cjwatson: though at this point, I'd rather have the bug release-noted, I think | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | ok, want to write something up for MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOvervieww? | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | -w | 13:36 |
| ttx | I definitely will, but I need to spend a bit more time on this one. | 13:37 |
| ttx | appears to be amd64-only | 13:37 |
| ttx | though it takes so long to spin up a test that we hardly have a valid statistic sample | 13:37 |
| ara | cjwatson, any decision made on the respin? | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | definitely going to, but I'm unsure of timing | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | Kubuntu seems too broken to release as yet, which means we need a new ubiquity anyway | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | I think I'm going to go ahead and respin Ubuntu desktop once the current publisher run finishes; there are a few useful fixes there, and Wubi will be worth testing. However my impression is that UNE and Kubuntu will need to wait for more ubiquity work | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | ev: ^- does that sound sane? | 14:08 |
| ara | cjwatson, so, you're saying, that, although ubuntu desktop will be respin now, it will be respin yet again once the changes in ubiquity gets published? | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | I don't think that's necessary if the changes aren't relevant to Ubuntu desktop | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | it would be for final, but for beta, not so worried | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | bah, inattention loses me time again, forgot to install in OEM mode | 14:15 |
| lamont | cjwatson: as a btw sort of thing, someday soon, I'll be upgrading ross to lucid (from karmic), as well as royal. I'll wait until after beta, of course. | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | ok | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | adare? | 14:28 |
| ev | cjwatson: seems reasonable to me | 14:31 |
| ScottK | Note: The stack of kde uploads that are coming for intended for post-beta. | 14:38 |
| cjwatson | new Ubuntu desktop posted, fixes a couple of installer issues and (hopefully) Wubi | 15:47 |
| ara | cjwatson, thanks! | 15:56 |
| charlie-tca | will xubuntu be rebuilt? | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | if you want it to be | 15:59 |
| charlie-tca | if it is fixing some of these serious bugs, yes | 15:59 |
| charlie-tca | desktop only | 15:59 |
| ara | cjwatson, are the DVDs going to be respin as well? | 15:59 |
| charlie-tca | I think the static ip bug I reported was fatigue on my part. I am running another install to verify, but could not reproduce yet | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | ara: good question | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | what's your (plural) capacity like? | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | charlie-tca: xubuntu desktop respinning | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 16:03 |
| ara | cjwatson, our capacity is low... but I think it is better to do the effort. It is a bit strange to release a buggy dvd (when teh desktop is working fine) | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | I'll start it off right after Xubuntu, then | 16:05 |
| ScottK | cjwatson: If usb-creator is going to -updates, then I think the notes in tech overview (or wherever it landed) need to be updated. | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | yes | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | skaet: ^- could you do the honours? it's the one about 10.04 usb-creator being unable to properly create maverick USB sticks - there's now an update in lucid-updates for it (or will be after the next publisher run) | 16:22 |
| skaet | cjwatson, sure. will take a pass at it. | 16:24 |
| seb128 | gwibber stopped the old authentification way | 16:34 |
| seb128 | ups | 16:34 |
| seb128 | twitter stopped the old authentification way | 16:35 |
| seb128 | the gwibber update in the queue fix that | 16:35 |
| ScottK | seb128: How are you fixing Lucid? | 16:35 |
| seb128 | I don't think it's a beta blocker but I'm just mentioning it in case somebody would like to slip it in | 16:35 |
| ScottK | For Kubuntu we have a similar issue to consider. | 16:35 |
| seb128 | or if there is a slot between resprins | 16:35 |
| seb128 | ScottK, you should ask kenvandine | 16:36 |
| ScottK | OK. | 16:36 |
| seb128 | he did the changes to gwibber | 16:36 |
| skaet | ScottK, doublechecking - the one corresponding to bug 608382? | 16:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 608382 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Maverick images burned to usb key on lucid fail to boot - different syslinux version (affects: 51) (dups: 6) (heat: 272)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608382 | 16:36 |
| ScottK | skaet: Yes. | 16:36 |
| skaet | ScottK, thanks. | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | Xubuntu desktop reposted | 16:37 |
| ara | charlie-tca, ^ | 16:37 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | Ubuntu DVD respinning | 16:38 |
| ara | cjwatson, thanks | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | really must automate all this website fiddling | 16:38 |
| GrueMaster | cjwatson: What issues were fixed in the installer earlier? I'm seeing an odd issue of oem-config crashing, but ogra is not. http://paste.ubuntu.com/486820/ | 16:38 |
| ogra | wow, that looks weird | 16:39 |
| ogra | i finished two test installs successfully here | 16:39 |
| ogra | no issues at all (beyond known bugs) | 16:40 |
| GrueMaster | I'm going to try zeroing & reflashing my SD (just in case). | 16:40 |
| cjwatson | GrueMaster: I don't know what that is; ev might. The fixes in 2.3.13 were bug 628011 and bug 625258 | 16:40 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 628011 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crashes on Ubuntu Netbook (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628011 | 16:40 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 625258 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with UnboundLocalError in part_ask_option_changed() (affects: 11) (heat: 54)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625258 | 16:40 |
| GrueMaster | Neither of those should affect us. I'll reflash/retest before filing anything. | 16:42 |
| ev | GrueMaster: useQuirks isn't from ubiquity and can be ignored - it's been appearing since fairly early on in the release | 16:43 |
| ev | GrueMaster: do you have a traceback? | 16:44 |
| GrueMaster | ok. First time I've seen it on armel. | 16:44 |
| * ogra has never seen it | 16:44 | |
| ogra | part_ask_option_changed() surely cant affect us on preinstalled images :) | 16:45 |
| cjwatson | seb128: I think it's unlikely that we can get it into many images, but I don't mind accepting it so that it's there for post-beta. Done | 16:45 |
| GrueMaster | No traceback at the moment. If I can reproduce it, I'll gather all the info. Just never saw this oddity before. | 16:45 |
| ogra | and the other one is a partitioning issue too | 16:45 |
| GrueMaster | that's why I said they wouldn't affect us. :P | 16:46 |
| didrocks | hum, for the netbook image, I just get the ackwardly famous "unknown keyword" on syslinux | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | upgrade to the usb-creator that *just* landed in lucid-updates (may not quite be on archive.u.c yet) | 16:47 |
| didrocks | even the maverick version has been upgraded? | 16:48 |
| didrocks | (it was only on lucid before IIRC) | 16:48 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, thanks | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | maverick hasn't, but maverick didn't suffer from the problem in the first place PROVIDED that you also have maverick's syslinux installed | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | well, it suffers from the problem the other way round, for building lucid sticks on maverick; that hasn't been fixed yet | 16:49 |
| ScottK | Right, but that's not what the bug was about. | 16:50 |
| didrocks | hum weird, I created a desktop live yesterday from my laptop (maverick up-to-date) without any issue, just this time, creating the netbook live with the current iso make the error appear | 16:50 |
| ScottK | Probably ought to have another bug for that. | 16:50 |
| didrocks | will double check with the desktop iso first. or maybe I pick the wrong iso in the list, let me check | 16:51 |
| didrocks | (as adding an iso doesn't select it in usb-creator, it's more than possible) | 16:51 |
| didrocks | ok, was my fault. I should have select the wrong iso in usb-creator (probably a jaunty one). I should log a bug and fix that when you add an iso to usb-creator, it should select it. Testing the netbook iso now | 17:03 |
| ttx | cjwatson: eod here, server looks good, except some racy issues in eucalyptus that we'll document in releasenotes | 17:18 |
| ttx | I'll check in later today to answer any question, and be around early tomorrow. | 17:19 |
| GrueMaster | Ok, not reproducing oem-config crash. Must have been an odd fluke with my SD. | 17:19 |
| cjwatson | ttx: ok, thanks | 17:19 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: do you know when the .1 iso for netbook respin will be published? | 17:25 |
| cjwatson | for netbook I was waiting for ev to sort out this install-from-USB bug | 17:29 |
| didrocks | ok, thanks | 17:30 |
| ara | If bug 627672 is not going to be fixed for Beta, it should be clearly release noted | 17:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 627672 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Maverick Beta] install from USB stuck retrieving files 2/6 Hp Mini (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627672 | 17:41 |
| ara | in my opinion it is quite important | 17:41 |
| ara | it makes a lot of installations fail | 17:42 |
| cjwatson | ara: 17:29 <cjwatson> for netbook I was waiting for ev to sort out this install-from-USB bug | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | Ubuntu DVDs posted | 18:00 |
| skaet | cjwatson, pitti, did the fix to bug 625110 make it in? | 18:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 625110 in udev (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "usb-modeswitch 1.1.4 doesn't switch any device (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625110 | 18:03 |
| ara | cjwatson, OK, thanks | 18:07 |
| ScottK | skaet: Still in the queue. | 18:09 |
| ScottK | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=udev | 18:09 |
| skaet | ScottK, thanks. :) | 18:09 |
| ScottK | You're welcome. | 18:09 |
| slangasek | does someone know what the deal is with kdm and plymouth in maverick? (bug #628195) | 19:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 628195 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouthd keeps running after entering into kdm (not with gdm) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628195 | 19:44 |
| ScottK | Sure enough. It does. | 19:46 |
| ScottK | root 300 1 0 2883 3540 1 00:46 ? 00:01:39 /sbin/plymouthd --mode=boot --attach-to-session --pid-file=/dev/.initramfs/plymouth.pid | 19:47 |
| slangasek | ScottK: since the only plymouth change since lucid is to print "10.10" instead of "10.04", I'm pretty sure this is a regression in the kdm patch to handle stopping plymouth; but the previous bug report I triaged over that way seems not to have resulted in any action | 19:49 |
| slangasek | bug #618450 | 19:50 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 618450 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "plymouthd does not quit on starting kdm (affects: 3) (heat: 274)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618450 | 19:50 |
| ScottK | I'm looking for the init file now. | 19:50 |
| slangasek | oh, that one was about using non-Ubuntu packages | 19:50 |
| slangasek | it's not about the init file - kdm itself needs to stop plymouth directly with the correct options in order to do the smooth transition to X | 19:51 |
| slangasek | and lucid has the patch to do this - I don't know about maverick | 19:51 |
| ScottK | So http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/kdm.upstart isn't where we should look? | 19:51 |
| slangasek | no | 19:51 |
| ScottK | ok | 19:52 |
| ScottK | I think I found it. | 19:53 |
| slangasek | ScottK: debian/patches/kubuntu_34_kdm_plymouth_transition.diff, in Lucid | 19:54 |
| ScottK | Yep. It changed in Maverick and I think not for the better. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | slangasek: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_34_kdm_plymouth_transition.diff looks like rev 387 is the deadly one. | 19:55 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Can you have a look ^^^^ | 19:55 |
| slangasek | hmm, that really seems to be mostly whitespace changes | 19:57 |
| slangasek | sigh, the previous revision nuked the DEP3 patch header | 19:58 |
| slangasek | but otherwise also does not change the patch | 19:58 |
| ScottK | Maybe it is. | 19:58 |
| slangasek | so I guess the breakage is due to changes to other code within kdm | 19:59 |
| ScottK | slangasek: apachelogger is looking at it. | 20:06 |
| slangasek | ScottK: ok, cool | 20:09 |
| GrueMaster | Not getting very far with kubuntu on omap. | 20:20 |
| GrueMaster | At least oem-config isn't crashing, though. | 20:20 |
| ScottK | GrueMaster: Does the preinstalled image use ubiquity? | 20:56 |
| GrueMaster | Somewhat. It uses oem-config. | 20:56 |
| GrueMaster | But it got through all that. Should have restarted into kdm. | 20:57 |
| GrueMaster | I've been experiencing some oddities with SD cards, so I'm trying again after zeroing one out. | 20:57 |
| ScottK | ubiquity in KDE is currently having excessive ram use problems. | 20:58 |
| ScottK | So it wouldn't suprise me if it had trouble on armel. | 20:58 |
| GrueMaster | Especially on beagleboard w/ 256M. | 21:00 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 21:01 |
| ScottK | It finally got to where it succeeded on my 1GB laptop, but Riddell's 512MB VM still had trouble. | 21:02 |
| ScottK | ev was last seen saying he'd finally replicated the issue. | 21:03 |
| elmo | cjwatson, et al.: has anyone whined at you about cdimage.u.c being run out of disk space? | 22:37 |
| cjwatson | nope | 22:37 |
| cjwatson | I can prune some DVD builds | 22:38 |
| elmo | thanks | 22:39 |
| Daviey | Release Team: Did ttx send some release notes regarding known issues for UEC Beta? | 22:56 |
| cjwatson | elmo: freed up 40G, does that help? | 23:03 |
| cjwatson | or thereabouts | 23:03 |
| elmo | cjwatson: perfect, thanks | 23:04 |
| skaet | Daviey, haven't seen any notes from ttx. Can you please send what you have? | 23:29 |
| Daviey | skaet, Hah.. twas just about to give up and go to bed... Will compose them now. | 23:29 |
| skaet | Daviey, thanks! :) | 23:30 |
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