cjwatsonmarjo: can you show me 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' on this system?00:05
stgraberany reason the Edubuntu images aren't on the iso tracker ?00:16
cjwatsonnot built yet, awaiting ubiquity builds00:18
stgraberoh, ok, I didn't follow -release much today so didn't notice a mass rebuild because of ubiquity ;)00:19
cjwatsonor pending a respin, if you want to look at it that way00:19
cjwatsonplus figured you might want your new artwork in00:20
stgraberindeed ;) thanks00:20
cjwatsonslangasek: could you take over?  builds to do and post: once ubiquity 2.3.12 is available (end of this publisher, except on armel), Ubuntu desktop and all DVDs; once ubiquity 2.3.12 [armel] and livecd-rootfs 1.150 are available, all armel images00:29
cjwatsonslangasek: there's still a question over Kubuntu installation but we may have to resolve that tomorrow at this point00:29
slangasekcjwatson: ack00:30
GrueMasterslangasek: Can you clarify whether or not armel is getting a respin?  I see cjwatson's comment and it makes me wonder.01:00
GrueMasteroh, nevermind.01:00
* GrueMaster eyes are getting fuzzy.01:00
slangasekGrueMaster: armel respins triggered; ETA: evening01:59
ScottKslangasek: I think Kubuntu live is worth respinning with 2.3.12 since the oom problem we are having has an unknown cause, I think it's useful to test with the current code.02:20
slangasekScottK: ok; DVD builds are already in progress so it'll be a while before I can schedule those02:22
slangasekbut I will do so once the queue clears02:22
ScottKslangasek: Thanks.  Just give me a ping when it's done please.  If I'm not still up I'll take a crack at it in my AM.02:24
slangasekScottK: 2 of 3 DVD sets done now; kubuntu live not far out04:11
ScottKslangasek: Thanks.  Of course I'm just heading off to bed, so I'll pick it up in the morning.04:22
ScottKKubuntu i386 and amd64 are up BTW (insomnia).05:08
slangasekyep, posted05:21
ScottKIf nothing else the respin gave me a chance to verify Bug #608382 from lucid-proposed.05:21
ubot4Launchpad bug 608382 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Maverick images burned to usb key on lucid fail to boot - different syslinux version (affects: 50) (dups: 6) (heat: 270)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60838205:21
slangasekcjwatson: respun everything that I understood was outstanding05:21
ScottKslangasek: Could I have a Kubuntu live powerpc respin.  This one looks like it might be worth testing.05:51
slangasekScottK: running05:52
GrueMasteris kubuntu/ports/daily-preinstalled queued up?06:01
ScottKslangasek: ^^^ That could stand a respin too, if you didn't do it.06:04
slangasekwhy is there both a kubuntu and a kubuntu-mobile cron.ports_daily-preinstalled in the crontab :/06:05
slangasekspinning kubuntu06:06
ScottKWe do want images of both, but the mobile one is still somewhat broken atm.06:07
ScottKHarrass NCommander for details.06:07
GrueMasterOr on general principle.  :P06:08
ScottKSure.  Goes without saying.06:25
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aramorning all!07:19
ttxara: morning!07:19
aracjwatson, morning07:55
aracjwatson, any particular reason why ubuntu netbook i386 is not on the tracker?07:55
cjwatsonara: oh, because it needed respun for new ubiquity and I forgot to tell slangasek this08:30
cjwatsonara: I'll check and respin after breakfast08:31
aracjwatson, ok, thanks08:31
aracjwatson, enjoy breakfast08:31
arawith the current problems in ubiquity, can we expect a respin later today?09:51
cjwatsonUNE posted09:52
ogracjwatson, hmm, i wonder if we shouldnt make your livecd-rootfs change subarch independent so i can drop the hack from jasper10:04
ogra(post beta indeed)10:04
cjwatsonup to you guys, I was just doing as I was told10:05
ograyeah, i wasnt brave enough to make it a default for all armel images since i wasnt sure if we would get GL drivers in time10:06
cjwatsonev: I can accept this if you think it's useful, but I was hoping not to have to respin too many times and there are still several other things that look beta-critical outstanding10:59
cjwatsonso, what respins do you actively want for this?10:59
cjwatsonI assume not Kubuntu10:59
evcjwatson: we can wait.  I just wanted to have that queued up in case fixing other bugs takes longer than we have left11:00
ScottKNice.  I was going to accept a Universe package, but LP logged me out and the login service is down.12:02
cjwatsonok, so wubi is sorted pending a rebuild; several important ubiquity bugs are fixed pending a rebuild, still a question mark over Kubuntu AFAIK13:04
ScottKMy best guess is that one of the 2.3.10 -> 2.3.12 changes reduced the incidence rate of process spawning causing the Kubuntu OOM problem so that my 1GB install was able to succeed while Riddell's 512MB install still failed.13:06
* ScottK was able to install with 2.3.10 after killing off all the non-essential processes he could find to free up memory.13:07
cjwatsonwubi> of course bug 613288 is still theoretically hanging over us13:10
ubot4Launchpad bug 613288 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "wubi installation failed - boot configuration store could not be opened (affects: 3) (heat: 141)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61328813:10
cjwatsonhaven't heard of re-reports of that so far though13:10
cjwatsonmarjo: regarding your server installation bug, I think it may be a recurrence of bug 227869.  Your /proc/cpuinfo may help to confirm.  If not that, then I guess it must be a kernel bug of some kind13:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 227869 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "Server installer should not use -server kernel for non-PAE CPU's (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22786913:22
cjwatsonttx: will bug 627963 require a server respin?13:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 627963 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "CC doesn't start correctly, CLC struggles with certificates (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62796313:32
ttxcjwatson: if we find the cause, maybe13:34
* ttx is getting a bit tired of last-day eucalyptus partycrashers13:34
ttxcjwatson: though at this point, I'd rather have the bug release-noted, I think13:36
cjwatsonok, want to write something up for MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOvervieww?13:36
ttxI definitely will, but I need to spend a bit more time on this one.13:37
ttxappears to be amd64-only13:37
ttxthough it takes so long to spin up a test that we hardly have a valid statistic sample13:37
aracjwatson, any decision made on the respin?14:03
cjwatsondefinitely going to, but I'm unsure of timing14:06
cjwatsonKubuntu seems too broken to release as yet, which means we need a new ubiquity anyway14:06
cjwatsonI think I'm going to go ahead and respin Ubuntu desktop once the current publisher run finishes; there are a few useful fixes there, and Wubi will be worth testing.  However my impression is that UNE and Kubuntu will need to wait for more ubiquity work14:08
cjwatsonev: ^- does that sound sane?14:08
aracjwatson, so, you're saying, that, although ubuntu desktop will be respin now, it will be respin yet again once the changes in ubiquity gets published?14:12
cjwatsonI don't think that's necessary if the changes aren't relevant to Ubuntu desktop14:13
cjwatsonit would be for final, but for beta, not so worried14:13
cjwatsonbah, inattention loses me time again, forgot to install in OEM mode14:15
lamontcjwatson: as a btw sort of thing, someday soon, I'll be upgrading ross to lucid (from karmic), as well as royal.  I'll wait until after beta, of course.14:27
evcjwatson: seems reasonable to me14:31
ScottKNote: The stack of kde uploads that are coming for intended for post-beta.14:38
cjwatsonnew Ubuntu desktop posted, fixes a couple of installer issues and (hopefully) Wubi15:47
aracjwatson, thanks!15:56
charlie-tcawill xubuntu be rebuilt?15:57
cjwatsonif you want it to be15:59
charlie-tcaif it is fixing some of these serious bugs, yes15:59
charlie-tcadesktop only15:59
aracjwatson, are the DVDs going to be respin as well?15:59
charlie-tcaI think the static ip bug I reported was fatigue on my part. I am running another install to verify, but could not reproduce yet16:00
cjwatsonara: good question16:03
cjwatsonwhat's your (plural) capacity like?16:03
cjwatsoncharlie-tca: xubuntu desktop respinning16:03
charlie-tcaThank you16:03
aracjwatson, our capacity is low... but I think it is better to do the effort. It is a bit strange to release a buggy dvd (when teh desktop is working fine)16:04
cjwatsonI'll start it off right after Xubuntu, then16:05
ScottKcjwatson: If usb-creator is going to -updates, then I think the notes in tech overview (or wherever it landed) need to be updated.16:21
cjwatsonskaet: ^- could you do the honours?  it's the one about 10.04 usb-creator being unable to properly create maverick USB sticks - there's now an update in lucid-updates for it (or will be after the next publisher run)16:22
skaetcjwatson,  sure.  will take a pass at it.16:24
seb128gwibber stopped the old authentification way16:34
seb128twitter stopped the old authentification way16:35
seb128the gwibber update in the queue fix that16:35
ScottKseb128: How are you fixing Lucid?16:35
seb128I don't think it's a beta blocker but I'm just mentioning it in case somebody would like to slip it in16:35
ScottKFor Kubuntu we have a similar issue to consider.16:35
seb128or if there is a slot between resprins16:35
seb128ScottK, you should ask kenvandine16:36
seb128he did the changes to gwibber16:36
skaetScottK,  doublechecking - the one corresponding to bug 608382?16:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 608382 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Maverick images burned to usb key on lucid fail to boot - different syslinux version (affects: 51) (dups: 6) (heat: 272)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60838216:36
ScottKskaet: Yes.16:36
skaetScottK,  thanks.16:37
cjwatsonXubuntu desktop reposted16:37
aracharlie-tca, ^16:37
charlie-tcaThank you16:37
cjwatsonUbuntu DVD respinning16:38
aracjwatson, thanks16:38
cjwatsonreally must automate all this website fiddling16:38
GrueMastercjwatson: What issues were fixed in the installer earlier?  I'm seeing an odd issue of oem-config crashing, but ogra is not.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/486820/16:38
ograwow, that looks weird16:39
ograi finished two test installs successfully here16:39
ograno issues at all (beyond known bugs)16:40
GrueMasterI'm going to try zeroing & reflashing my SD (just in case).16:40
cjwatsonGrueMaster: I don't know what that is; ev might.  The fixes in 2.3.13 were bug 628011 and bug 62525816:40
ubot4Launchpad bug 628011 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crashes on Ubuntu Netbook (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62801116:40
ubot4Launchpad bug 625258 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with UnboundLocalError in part_ask_option_changed() (affects: 11) (heat: 54)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62525816:40
GrueMasterNeither of those should affect us.  I'll reflash/retest before filing anything.16:42
evGrueMaster: useQuirks isn't from ubiquity and can be ignored - it's been appearing since fairly early on in the release16:43
evGrueMaster: do you have a traceback?16:44
GrueMasterok.  First time I've seen it on armel.16:44
* ogra has never seen it 16:44
ograpart_ask_option_changed() surely cant affect us on preinstalled images :)16:45
cjwatsonseb128: I think it's unlikely that we can get it into many images, but I don't mind accepting it so that it's there for post-beta.  Done16:45
GrueMasterNo traceback at the moment.  If I can reproduce it, I'll gather all the info.  Just never saw this oddity before.16:45
ograand the other one is a partitioning issue too16:45
GrueMasterthat's why I said they wouldn't affect us.  :P16:46
didrockshum, for the netbook image, I just get the ackwardly famous "unknown keyword" on syslinux16:47
cjwatsonupgrade to the usb-creator that *just* landed in lucid-updates (may not quite be on archive.u.c yet)16:47
didrockseven the maverick version has been upgraded?16:48
didrocks(it was only on lucid before IIRC)16:48
seb128cjwatson, thanks16:48
cjwatsonmaverick hasn't, but maverick didn't suffer from the problem in the first place PROVIDED that you also have maverick's syslinux installed16:49
cjwatsonwell, it suffers from the problem the other way round, for building lucid sticks on maverick; that hasn't been fixed yet16:49
ScottKRight, but that's not what the bug was about.16:50
didrockshum weird, I created a desktop live yesterday from my laptop (maverick up-to-date) without any issue, just this time, creating the netbook live with the current iso make the error appear16:50
ScottKProbably ought to have another bug for that.16:50
didrockswill double check with the desktop iso first. or maybe I pick the wrong iso in the list, let me check16:51
didrocks(as adding an iso doesn't select it in usb-creator, it's more than possible)16:51
didrocksok, was my fault. I should have select the wrong iso in usb-creator (probably a jaunty one). I should log a bug and fix that when you add an iso to usb-creator, it should select it. Testing the netbook iso now17:03
ttxcjwatson: eod here, server looks good, except some racy issues in eucalyptus that we'll document in releasenotes17:18
ttxI'll check in later today to answer any question, and be around early tomorrow.17:19
GrueMasterOk, not reproducing oem-config crash.  Must have been an odd fluke with my SD.17:19
cjwatsonttx: ok, thanks17:19
didrockscjwatson: do you know when the .1 iso for netbook respin will be published?17:25
cjwatsonfor netbook I was waiting for ev to sort out this install-from-USB bug17:29
didrocksok, thanks17:30
araIf bug 627672 is not going to be fixed for Beta, it should be clearly release noted17:41
ubot4Launchpad bug 627672 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Maverick Beta] install from USB stuck retrieving files 2/6 Hp Mini (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62767217:41
arain my opinion it is quite important17:41
arait makes a lot of installations fail17:42
cjwatsonara: 17:29 <cjwatson> for netbook I was waiting for ev to sort out this install-from-USB bug18:00
cjwatsonUbuntu DVDs posted18:00
skaetcjwatson, pitti,  did the fix to bug 625110 make it in?18:03
ubot4Launchpad bug 625110 in udev (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "usb-modeswitch 1.1.4 doesn't switch any device (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62511018:03
aracjwatson, OK, thanks18:07
ScottKskaet: Still in the queue.18:09
skaetScottK,  thanks.  :)18:09
ScottKYou're welcome.18:09
slangasekdoes someone know what the deal is with kdm and plymouth in maverick? (bug #628195)19:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 628195 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouthd keeps running after entering into kdm (not with gdm) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62819519:44
ScottKSure enough.  It does.19:46
ScottKroot       300     1  0  2883  3540   1 00:46 ?        00:01:39 /sbin/plymouthd --mode=boot --attach-to-session --pid-file=/dev/.initramfs/plymouth.pid19:47
slangasekScottK: since the only plymouth change since lucid is to print "10.10" instead of "10.04", I'm pretty sure this is a regression in the kdm patch to handle stopping plymouth; but the previous bug report I triaged over that way seems not to have resulted in any action19:49
slangasekbug #61845019:50
ubot4Launchpad bug 618450 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "plymouthd does not quit on starting kdm (affects: 3) (heat: 274)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61845019:50
ScottKI'm looking for the init file now.19:50
slangasekoh, that one was about using non-Ubuntu packages19:50
slangasekit's not about the init file - kdm itself needs to stop plymouth directly with the correct options in order to do the smooth transition to X19:51
slangasekand lucid has the patch to do this - I don't know about maverick19:51
ScottKSo http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/kdm.upstart isn't where we should look?19:51
ScottKI think I found it.19:53
slangasekScottK: debian/patches/kubuntu_34_kdm_plymouth_transition.diff, in Lucid19:54
ScottKYep.  It changed in Maverick and I think not for the better.19:54
ScottKslangasek: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_34_kdm_plymouth_transition.diff looks like rev 387 is the deadly one.19:55
ScottKRiddell: Can you have a look ^^^^19:55
slangasekhmm, that really seems to be mostly whitespace changes19:57
slangaseksigh, the previous revision nuked the DEP3 patch header19:58
slangasekbut otherwise also does not change the patch19:58
ScottKMaybe it is.19:58
slangasekso I guess the breakage is due to changes to other code within kdm19:59
ScottKslangasek: apachelogger is looking at it.20:06
slangasekScottK: ok, cool20:09
GrueMasterNot getting very far with kubuntu on omap.20:20
GrueMasterAt least oem-config isn't crashing, though.20:20
ScottKGrueMaster: Does the preinstalled image use ubiquity?20:56
GrueMasterSomewhat.  It uses oem-config.20:56
GrueMasterBut it got through all that.  Should have restarted into kdm.20:57
GrueMasterI've been experiencing some oddities with SD cards, so I'm trying again after zeroing one out.20:57
ScottKubiquity in KDE is currently having excessive ram use problems.20:58
ScottKSo it wouldn't suprise me if it had trouble on armel.20:58
GrueMasterEspecially on beagleboard w/ 256M.21:00
ScottKIt finally got to where it succeeded on my 1GB laptop, but Riddell's 512MB VM still had trouble.21:02
ScottKev was last seen saying he'd finally replicated the issue.21:03
elmocjwatson, et al.: has anyone whined at you about cdimage.u.c being run out of disk space?22:37
cjwatsonI can prune some DVD builds22:38
DavieyRelease Team: Did ttx send some release notes regarding known issues for UEC Beta?22:56
cjwatsonelmo: freed up 40G, does that help?23:03
cjwatsonor thereabouts23:03
elmocjwatson: perfect, thanks23:04
skaetDaviey, haven't seen any notes from ttx.   Can you please send what you have?23:29
Davieyskaet, Hah.. twas just about to give up and go to bed... Will compose them now.23:29
skaetDaviey,  thanks!  :)23:30

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