[00:00] <latagore> Fenrir: That's how I solved it, hopefully it'll work for you too
[00:00] <Fenrir> thank y6ou
[00:01] <latagore> Fenrir: it works?
[00:01] <Coronade> hey fenrir your name just so happens to crash my IRC client :(
[00:02] <ilovefairuz> CkhiKuzad: kompozer
[00:02] <ilovefairuz> ath88: you don't need a "tunnel" for that, just an ssh server
[00:02] <ilovefairuz> !sound | r_s___
[00:02] <latagore> !mp3 | latagore
[00:03] <latagore> I can't even see the private message lol. Dunno where to find it
[00:03] <r_s___> ubottu, the sound was working fine before updating pulseaudio
[00:03] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: it must be on another window
[00:03] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: are you typing from a Ubuntu desktop ?
[00:04] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: The empathy IRC is pretty clumsy; I can't see the people in the room and it doesn
[00:04] <latagore> presuntoRJ: open up new windows when people message me
[00:04] <PresuntoRJ> I used to have the same problem with empathy
[00:04] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: you can try using a ppa to upgrade and add functionality to it
[00:05] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: it will get a lot better after you do
[00:05] <Arepie> hello.. is there any way to automaticaly change the source.list to others? the current source.list is not working
[00:05] <Arepie> btw, im using ubuntu-server
[00:05] <Sia--> Arepie, of corse
[00:06] <Sia--> of course*
[00:06] <Arepie> Sia--: how could i do that?
[00:06] <Sia--> edit /etc/apt/source.list
[00:06] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: What exactly am I looking for xO
[00:07] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: I believe you could type $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:telepathy/ppa
[00:07] <Arepie> Sia--: to insert 1 by 1, i can fall asleep :) aren't there any auto generated by command?
[00:07] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: then a $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update
[00:08] <Sia--> Arepie, of course
[00:08] <maco> PresuntoRJ: second one supposed to be upgrade?
[00:08] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: that will help you with your telepathy... now regarding your audio, what exactly do you need?
[00:08] <roscogruen> jrib: what do you mean, "!hardware"  ?
[00:08] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: lol everyone asks me to use command line and I use a GUI program x(
[00:08] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: yes, sorry...
[00:08] <maco> roscogruen: things starting with ! are commands for the bot to talk to you
[00:08] <roscogruen> the camera is not on the list given by ubottu
[00:08] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: the second has got to be an upgrade
[00:08] <Sia--> Arepie, and you can use vim to find replace not one by one or
[00:08] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: that's okay, I know how to figure it out from here
[00:09] <roscogruen> i doubt a bot could answer this question, if that is what jman suggested
[00:09] <rahduke> a couple versions ago 9.04 if i remember correctly had a drive management program that let you view which folders on your drive took up the most space, it broke everything down into directory trees and it was really handy.....anyone know what that was? and if i can get it back on 10.04??
[00:09] <roscogruen> or jrib
[00:09] <yoshie> How to have ubuntu auto login instead of requiring password to login ?
[00:09] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: ok now anotehr question, why do i have more than one display subsection?
[00:09] <Sia--> Arepie, for example " sudo wget http:source.com  -N -P /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[00:10] <rahduke> any1?
[00:10] <DasEi> roscogruen: which camera is it ?
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> yoshie, system / admin / login screen
[00:10] <PresuntoRJ> yoshie: in the system/admin menu , there is a Logon applet
[00:10] <Gnea> !anyone
[00:10] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> rahduke: i know of a console version called ncdu
[00:10] <Arepie> Sia--: nice one.. thanks
[00:10] <stunts513> only asking cause i havnt seen any examples online that have more than one
[00:10] <hiexpo> Edgan, hola
[00:10] <rahduke> Cmdr_W_T_Riker: thanks but im looking for a gui
[00:10] <yoshie> @presuntoRJ wow awesome, lol i feal stupid
[00:10] <rahduke> the program was sick i have no idea why it was removed
[00:10] <hiexpo> evening all
[00:11] <DasEi> hi hiexpo
[00:11] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> rahduke: have you looked through the available software packages yet?
[00:11] <PresuntoRJ> yoshie: you must have the administrator privilegie (able to sudo) and there is an option just for that
[00:11] <stunts513> ok uh maybe you dont need to answer that i may have just figured it out, plus i g2geat dinner, bbl
[00:11] <hiexpo> heya DasEi
[00:11] <Sia--> Arepie, but i never heart that linux admin hate editing the code on by one
[00:11] <rahduke> Cmdr_W_T_Riker: i dont even know what to search for, i searched for drive management and hard drive but didnt find anything useful
[00:11] <bpietro> hi to all. Lucid don't like Zope? Why I can install bunch of zope utilities and zope related packages but main Zope package is missing. Both, apt-get or Synaptic, nope. But in repository, dir pool/main/z/ there is zope2.11 deb package.  So how I can install it? Or there is some reason of non install it?
[00:11] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> rahduke: let me give it a try
[00:11] <PresuntoRJ> yoshie: no problem... it happens to me all the time as well
[00:11] <rahduke> Cmdr_W_T_Riker: thanks very much
[00:12] <Arepie> Sia--: im the "never" type :)
[00:12] <DasEi> bpietro: try with zope-common
[00:13] <Armymen>  i have a question, when i move my mouse away from a windows, the windows i have get almost 5% transparent, where can i change how many transparent i want, here a exemple : http://myuploader.net//files/90/Screenshot.png
[00:13] <ilovefairuz> bpietro: search the PPAs
[00:13] <ilovefairuz> !ppa | bpietro
[00:13] <roscogruen> DasEi: it is canon powershot d10
[00:14] <PresuntoRJ> Armymen: it looks like a setting of your compiz...
[00:14] <bpietro> Dasda, tnx, I'm using italian language for desktop and there is bad translation for this package, so it seems to be one of supprot packages and not main one. tnx
[00:15] <soreau> Armymen: PresuntoRJ is right, you need to set it in ccsm>Add Helper most likely
[00:15] <bpietro> *support
[00:15] <DasEi> roscogruen: did you try cheese on it ?
[00:15] <PresuntoRJ> Armymen: if you don't have it installed yet, you at least should look at the compizconfig-settings-manager package ($ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager )
[00:15] <Armymen> i have conpiz
[00:16] <DasEi> bpietro: np, nick is DasEi
[00:16] <Armymen> but did not found the option for that i dont even know how to call that feature :d
[00:16] <roscogruen> DasEi: i don't have it. yet.  will tomorrow.  cheese is a webcam application???
[00:16] <bpietro> sorry, DasEi, ti was automatic tab completition
[00:17] <DasEi> roscogruen: try sudo apt-get install gphoto2 cheese , yes, see :
[00:17] <bpietro> *it was
[00:17] <DasEi> !info cheese
[00:17] <PresuntoRJ> Armymen: it's enabled when you choose the the visual effects in the apearance (and themes) applet ... the compizconfig-settings-manager usually helps me
[00:17] <roscogruen> !info cheese
[00:17] <roscogruen> ?
[00:17] <DasEi> roscogruen: found a forum link : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45288
[00:17] <DasEi> roscogruen: bbut if you want to buy one, why not look up supported ones first ?
[00:18] <hiexpo> !cheese > roscogruen
[00:18] <Armymen> ok i still gona search but did not see any option for :( snif, im looking :)
[00:18] <thetimes> okie
[00:18] <Armymen> haa found it :D
[00:18] <Armymen> sweet :D
[00:18] <DasEi> roscogruen: http://tinyurl.com/dcurp
[00:18] <PresuntoRJ> Armymen: another possibility to prevent the transparency would be to set the focus always on the screen, when yu have to click somewhere else instead of just moving the mouse away
[00:18] <tucemiux> I have a headless machine with no GUI, REPEAT: no GUI here, how do I completely remove and purge CUPS along with its configuration files??
[00:19] <Armymen> opacity was the option i just when 1 buy 1 desactivate stuff and try :D
[00:19] <DasEi> tucemiux: sudo apt-get remove --purge cups --dry-run , first to see what would happen
[00:19] <tucemiux> DasEi, Thanks!  Let me try that
[00:19] <DasEi> tucemiux: then cut --dry-run to make it execute
[00:20] <PresuntoRJ> Armymen: great ... :D
[00:20] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: =( I don't know what to install for empathy
[00:20] <DasEi> tucemiux: errm cups* it should be
[00:20] <yoshie> Installed New hard drive, How to set hard drive to auto mount ?
[00:20] <roscogruen> DasEi: this is not webcam are you sure this will be the right path?
[00:20] <roscogruen> it is a digital camera
[00:20] <roscogruen> hand held
[00:21] <thetimes> woohoo!
[00:21] <thetimes> erm, so..
[00:21] <Coronade> my IRC client needs a GUI
[00:21] <DasEi> roscogruen: yes I see, well the forum link I posted intends you can usse it
[00:21] <Coronade> and QT doesn't support VS2010 at the moment..
[00:21] <bpietro> DasEi, just installed, one small utility, dzhandle. IMHO it isn't Zope main package
[00:23] <DasEi> bpietro: apt-cache search zope lists zope-packages
[00:23] <wzooff> доброй ночи :)
[00:23] <roscogruen> DasEi: thx.  i should have checked for supported cameras.  but that list is very, very old and incomplete.  maybe 1% of cameras sold are on that list
[00:23] <alexeenkoff> тут на русском разговаривают? :)
[00:23] <mibber> Hi can someone help me? i have this error when running 'startx' http://pastebin.com/
[00:23] <maco> !ru | wzooff, alexeenkoff
[00:23] <tucemiux> Dasda, thanks cups* did it, then apt-get autoremove
[00:23] <mibber> woops, here is my error http://pastebin.com/jcSe2r01  -- the problem is with the desktop not working
[00:24] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: in my system I have installed a bunch of packages... after the $ sudo apt-get upgrade ; try a $ sudo apt-get install empathy empathy-common
[00:24] <bpietro> It isn't difficult to me download zope2.11 deb package and install it, I want know whether there is some reason for include in official index files bunch of Zope utilities and not include Zope itself. Anybody knows?
[00:24] <tucemiux> yoshie, you can send me a PM if you want
[00:24] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: I think you typed update twice before =o But okay
[00:24] <DasEi> roscogruen: canon and logilink have good compatibility, most times the handhelds offer cf support, so latest can have a cheap reader then, but usb should also work
[00:24] <roscogruen> the other cameras we have are not on the list and work w/o installing anything.  hope same is true with this new camera.  thx DasE
[00:24] <PresuntoRJ> latagore:  nope, there must be a $sudo apt-get update
[00:25] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: followed by a $ sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:25] <roscogruen> DasEi: i'll be sure to try usb cable first
[00:25] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: one gets to know the latest packages available, the other will actually upgrade anything avaiable
[00:25] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: I must have misread what you said before
[00:26] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: no problem
[00:26] <WillWork4Foo> hi all... forgive the probably daft question, but my google-fu seems to be weak tonight because it's not giving me the answers I need. Does anyone know if there's a list of packages (or even a metapackage) that I can install that will give me the Ubuntu Netbook Edition interface as an option?
[00:26] <snow_ru> u`te' quyen
[00:26] <snow_ru> u`bu'ntu`
[00:26] <sjm> WillWork4Foo, try netbook-launcher, I think
[00:26] <latagore> presuntoRJ: Thanks :]
[00:27] <WillWork4Foo> sjm, looks promising! installing now.
[00:27] <latagore> presuntoRJ: is there any way I can stop the autoscroll in empathy so I can read past messages?
[00:27] <WillWork4Foo> thanks!
[00:27] <sjm> WillWork4Foo, no problem.  Glad to help
[00:28] <PresuntoRJ> the newer empathy has an icon on the notification area which helps unhide some of the features, and blinks when you are called privately on a IRC msg
[00:28] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: nope, I hate this too, but you can keep looking at the history of the conversation for the same effect
[00:28] <sjm> latagore, PresuntoRJ , My opinion, use empathy for IM and xchat for IRC
[00:29] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: have you upgraded the empathy already?
[00:29] <Faissal> lol mibber, post the link to the actual url of where you pasted the error
[00:29] <latagore> I typed upgrade but 0 upgraded
[00:29] <stunts513> hey ifairuz, i just tryed putting some settings in the xorg.conf, and after retarting gdm then x, it still doesnt let me go into 1024x768 and the gui tty is now tty9 (ctrlaltf9
[00:29] <snow_ru> ei
[00:29] <snow_ru> ubuntu
[00:29] <stunts513> o woops i ment ilovefairuz
[00:29] <fenrir265> How do I remove applications and games?
[00:29] <PresuntoRJ> sjm: could be, but empathy is what most users will have to handle and cope with since its the software preinstalled on their systems ;)
[00:29] <snow_ru> stunts513, fot you
[00:29] <mibber> http://pastebin.com/jcSe2r01 here is my error, can someone help?
[00:30] <stunts513> ?
[00:30] <PresuntoRJ> sjm: it doesn't suck completely, but its faaaaaaar from perfect
[00:30] <sjm> PresuntoRJ, yes, but xchat is "better" for IRC.
[00:30] <coz_> mibber,   try  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:30] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: pastebin your xorg.conf and xorg.log.0
[00:30] <coz_> mibber,  then  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start or   sudo restart gdm
[00:30] <snow_ru> hmm
[00:30] <stunts513> ok, u want the original xorg before i started screwing with it?
[00:31] <snow_ru> go to microsoft.com
[00:31] <snow_ru> and download windows
[00:31] <mibber> coz_: okay
[00:31] <Coronade> sweet
[00:31] <Coronade> then yo ucan use visual studio 2010 like me
[00:31] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: Sorry I didn't tag your name; When I typed upgrade, it said 0 upgraded; maybe the GUI I used for the PPA address already upgraded
[00:31] <Coronade> and make an IRC client.. like me
[00:31] <snow_ru> it's the best operating system till now
[00:31] <snow_ru> Coronade, it's the best
[00:31] <fenrir265> Can someone please tell me how to remove applications?
[00:31] <Coronade> because C++0x rules (even if it's only TR1)
[00:31] <snow_ru> apt-get remove
[00:32] <coz_> fenrir265,  sure which application do you want to remove?
[00:32] <snow_ru> Coronade, what is C++0x ?
[00:32] <Coronade> D:
[00:32] <snow_ru> Coronade, what is C++0x ?
[00:32] <DasEi> fenrir265: synaptic or apt, which one ?
[00:32] <Coronade> read the wikipedia page about it
[00:32] <fenrir265> a couple of games that i cant figureout
[00:32] <snow_ru> Coronade, what is C++0x ?
[00:32] <Coronade> @snow_ru:  it's the next version of C++
[00:32] <Coronade> :D
[00:32] <coz_> fenrir265,  ok  if you installed these with apt-get or synatpic  you can type in terminal  sudo apt-get autoremove --purge  nameofgame
[00:32] <DasEi> fenrir265: you mean these  gnome-games ?
[00:33] <fenrir265> i dont know
[00:33] <DasEi> coz_:  remove ?!
[00:33] <bpietro> DasEi, I tried first apt-cache, returns empty list. No zope, nor zope2, seems not to be in index file. I know workarround, but why it isn't here, that's question (c W.S)
[00:33] <labgeek> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B0x
[00:33] <fenrir265> ijust got them with the ubuntu application thing
[00:33] <snow_ru> Coronade, what is C++0x ?
[00:33] <PresuntoRJ> fenrir265: you must be aware of what you are doing because you could end up crippling your system beyond repair... any way, you can get any application uninstalled if you know its package name (usually, nut not necessarily, the name of the application)... then a $ sudo apt-get autoremove --purge   will remove the package and autoremove any dependencies installed that do not affect any other program installed, and will clear any config files to get ri
[00:33] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: Does it upgrade to the newest version number? What is your version number?
[00:33] <PresuntoRJ> de of junk that could be left behind
[00:33] <coz_> fenrir265,   did you install these or  were they there when you installed ubuntu?
[00:33] <fenrir265> i installed them
[00:33] <DasEi> bpietro: apt-cache show zope
[00:33] <coz_> fenrir265,  name one of them
[00:33] <DasEi> bpietro: apt-cache search zope
[00:33] <fenrir265> kg
[00:33] <snow_ru> idoru, dont' kick me, ok ?
[00:33] <coz_> fenrir265,  kg is the name?
[00:34] <fenrir265> yeah
[00:34] <coz_> fenrir265,  is this kde you are running
[00:34] <snow_ru> idoru, dont' kick me, ok ?
[00:34] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: what was the output from the update ?
[00:34] <hunterm> hey guies, what is the package name for Xorg?
[00:34] <fenrir265> and avida evolution simulator
[00:34] <snow_ru> idoru, poshel tui
[00:34] <fenrir265> kde?
[00:34] <snow_ru> idoru, tui durak
[00:34] <DasEi> hunterm: xserver-xorg
[00:34] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: has it complaint about  missing signatures and other stuff ?
[00:34] <hunterm> thanks.
[00:34] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: if you mean upgrade, 0 upgraded
[00:34] <snow_ru> hi
[00:34] <coz_> fenrir265,  ok the second one.... open a terminal and type  avida and see if that opens
[00:34] <snow_ru> ru> idoru, dont' kick me, ok ?
 latagore: what was the output from the update ?
 hey guies, what is the package name for Xorg?
[00:34] <snow_ru> * slgma has quit (Quit: Connection reset by queer)
[00:34] <FloodBot2> snow_ru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <snow_ru> * Dfoolz (~dfoolz@184.60.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) has joined #ubuntu
 and avida evolution simulator
[00:34] <RickiiBETA> can anyone help me figure out why a new build won't boot
[00:34] <handjob> Hi all. What's the name of the script that builds deb packages?
[00:34] <bpietro> yeah, with lists zope - empty list, w/o list of zope support packages but no zope main package itself
[00:34] <stunts513> ilovefairuz:
[00:34] <stunts513> xorg.0.log=http://pastebin.com/KzWvCY76
[00:34] <stunts513> xorg.conf(modifiedbyme)=http://pastebin.com/DpvPEmn1
[00:34] <stunts513> originally generated xorg.conf=http://pastebin.com/URfK75vf
[00:34] <FloodBot2> stunts513: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <stunts513> wow thats ironic
[00:34] <fenrir265> how do I open a terminal?
[00:34] <muellisoft> RickiiBETA: yes. but you need to share the details.
[00:35] <carandraug> I am having some trouble restoring from a backup. I rsync from one HD to another. However, when I boot from the new HD, I get an error and am throw into initramfs. In the error I can see that is still trying to use the old HD UUID to mount as root (I already changed the fstab)
[00:35] <muellisoft> fenrir265: alt+f2 then gnome-terminal
[00:35] <Coronade> How do I w
[00:35] <coz_> fenrir265, system / accessories/ terminal
[00:35] <Coronade> How do I Windows 7?
[00:35] <DasEi> fenrir265: alt+F2 , enter gnome-terminal
[00:35] <aeon-ltd> Coronade: say wut?
[00:35] <latagore> fenrir265: Go to Applications at the top, click Accessories and then Terminal
[00:35] <Muelli> Coronade: you don't
[00:35] <snow_ru> very good
[00:35] <Coronade> Ok ok, how do I shot web?
[00:35] <DasEi> Coronade: #windows is there
[00:35] <snow_ru> yes
[00:35] <Coronade> :(
[00:35] <coz_> fenrir265,  yes or  alt+F2   gnome-terminal
[00:35] <mibber> coz_: so i restarted it okay, i dn't see any errors in the console, but i still have my problem - i double click anything on the desktop, and nothing happens!
[00:35] <RickiiBETA> k, i have everything hooked up and good to go, the cpu, gpu, cd, and hdd all start
[00:35] <RickiiBETA> but no bios
[00:35] <Coronade> I decided to go to the more Developer friendly (hopefully) room...
[00:36] <Coronade> I'm just making sure my IRC client works properly.
[00:36] <Coronade> WHich it does.
[00:36] <handjob> What the fuck is this channel?
[00:36] <coz_> mibber,  what were you doing  or installing or uninstalling just before all of this occurred??
[00:36] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: 2.30.2-1~ppa10.04+1
[00:36] <stunts513> lmao
[00:36] <Coronade> and i need lots of traffick
[00:36] <Coronade> to test it fully
[00:36] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> Coronade: it works.
[00:36] <Muelli> Coronade: could you please /part this channel then? Thanks.
[00:36] <Coronade> I know.
[00:36] <RickiiBETA> i already tried resetting everything, and its all hooked in good
[00:36] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: My client didn't update then
[00:36] <Coronade> Can I idle here?
[00:36] <bpietro> DasEi, this is on Desktop Lucid, server version the same, zope main package not mentioned
[00:36] <mibber> coz_: i haven't installed anything, i was writing some code, nothing that would really be similar as i can recall
[00:36] <Coronade> i'm not a bot, just a shitty client
[00:36] <Coronade> I'm going to idle here all night.
[00:37] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: no I really mean UPDATE
[00:37] <mibber> coz_: are there error logs or something?
[00:37] <timewriter> im affraid im gonna do that too
[00:37] <zergling_> my account is an admin account but when i tried to change the permissions on a read only file so i can edit it, it says "you are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions." help me please
[00:37] <timewriter> as long as i cant do anything just irssi
[00:37] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: Could I ask for your instructions on how to upgrade it or how to view the history on Empathy
[00:37] <coz_> mibber,  mmm  this is puzzling then....  you can check under system administration for log files
[00:37] <stunts513> if the bot says im spamming, does that mean ou guys cant see it?
[00:37] <coz_> mibber,  although ...unless you actually ran the code you were creating ...this makes no sense
[00:38] <sjm> latagore, for apt, there is "update" which updates the list of current packages it knows about, and "upgrade" which actually upgrades the packages.  You have to "update" the list first.
[00:38] <stunts513> not that im doing it on purpose just wondering
[00:38] <RickiiBETA> muellisoft: you there?
[00:38] <DasEi> bpietro: I've some extra repos enabled, this is what I get : http://pastebin.com/hcQnqsHu
[00:38] <mibber> coz_: yes it is weird, i don't know whats going on
[00:38] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: I will try to talk prv with you
[00:38] <coz_> stunts513,   no we see and hear everything :)
[00:38] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: Alright
[00:38] <stunts513> kk just makin sure thanks
[00:38] <coz_> mibber,  is this a new install ?
[00:38] <mibber> coz_: about a month old
[00:39] <snow_ru> mibber,
[00:39] <coz_> mibber,  ok you could create a new user account and see if everything works in that then remove the old account
[00:39] <snow_ru> coz_,
[00:39] <snow_ru> how did you know IRC ?
[00:39] <coz_> snow_ru,   yes?
[00:39] <mibber> coz_: let me try that
[00:39] <sjm> !offtopic | snow_ru
[00:39] <tracy69> does anyone know if it is possible to display whole hdd in conky instead partition where ubuntu is installed ?
[00:40] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: pastebin: xrandr
[00:40] <mibber> coz_: do i just make a new user in teh console, and then run gdm as that user?
[00:40] <snow_ru> !offtopic | sjm
[00:40] <stunts513> ok
[00:40] <coz_> mibber,  yes if you know how to create a user via terminal that should be fine
[00:40] <mibber> coz_: okay
[00:40] <zergling> my account is an admin account but when i tried to change the permissions on a read only file so i can edit it, it says "you are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions." help me please
[00:41] <snow_ru> zergling, change the owner to you
[00:41] <DasEi> zergling: sudo chmod +x   AFile  doesn't work ?
[00:41] <DasEi> zergling: sudo chmod +w   AFile  doesn't work ?
[00:41] <zergling> snow_ru: how do i do that (im still a newb
[00:41] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> tracy69: a whole disk doesn't immidiately make much sense, maybe you mean all the linux partitions as seen as a whole?
[00:42] <DasEi> tracy69: gparted let's you grafically view whole disk
[00:43] <stunts513> ilovefairuz:http://pastebin.com/YXF3bvcF
[00:43] <Izinucs> zergling: DasEi try .. sudo chown <your user name>:<your user name> Afile .. then after if needed use chmod to +xw Afile
 i have one hdd 500gb other 350gb i want to see them both not swap or some hda5 or sda7 i want to see hdd or sda 500gb used 30gb etc
[00:43] <tracy69> ubuntu is installed on 500gb where i have made partition 50gb for it
[00:43] <tracy69> the partition is called sdb5 thats all i managed to see in conky
[00:44] <DasEi> lzinucs : I know, zergling asked, and to write w is enough
[00:44] <Izinucs> DasEi: k.. didn't catch the previous part of the conversation
[00:44] <stunts513> ilovefairuz:going tell you right now thoes are not the only resolutions it can run, because i have been in 1024x768 in windows for a while, i dont have the driver installed on windows right now cause i recently reformatted, and my wifi card now only seems to work on linux.....not because of missing driver, but because windwos cant seem to comprehend my wifi card with the right driver...
[00:45] <sjm> tracy69, you might try #conky
[00:45] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> tracy69: okay i get your point. hmmm, i'm not very fmailiar with conky, but i could have a look
[00:46] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: pastebin: cvt 1024 768
[00:46] <stunts513> ok
[00:46] <zergling> Izinucs: sudo chown aj:aj +xw Afile didnt work
 ok im waiting :)
[00:46] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/qDkekfZA
[00:47] <tracy69> sjm i tried #conky buy no people over there
[00:47] <flupke> I need to run a command as root at startup, where can I add it ?
[00:47] <DasEi> zergling: Afile you must change to the files name, then sudo chown zergling (or whatever username) AFile && sudo gedit Afile should work
[00:47] <zergling> DasEi: ohhhhh
[00:48] <DasEi> yes yes :)
[00:48] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: : in the monitor section add: Modeline "1024x768_60.00"   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
[00:48] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: and:       Option    "PreferredMode" "1280x1024_60.00"
[00:48] <DasEi> zergling: but chmod +w will also give write acces, see above
[00:49] <DasEi> zergling: even if you're not the owner, if done as root (sudo)
[00:49] <DasEi> !chmod > zergling
[00:49] <bpietro> DasEi, thanks, but still don't see zope2.11-....-i386.deb package as in pool/directory of official repos. So I think, (a) somebody forgot insert it in index list or (b) there is some reason, why it wasn't be included. Because all guides start with "install Zope: apt-get install zopeX.XX, where X.XX is major and minor release number" When I do so, result is "can't find this package"
[00:49] <DasEi> !chown > zergling
[00:49] <stunts513> ok
[00:50] <stunts513> sorry i had to go in other room , im back
[00:51] <tracy69> stunts513, what for did you go to the other room?
[00:51] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: you sure i can run 1280x1024?
[00:51] <stunts513> o my mom called me
[00:51] <stunts513> thats y i was in other room
[00:51] <zergling> is this the right way to word this?  sudo chown aj:aj  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:51] <sjm> tracy69, why do you need the whole disk rather than the partitions?  Linux works with the filesystems inside the partitions not the disk (there is no filesystem on the disk, it's inside the partitions)
[00:52] <stunts513> and im not a child... im a computer tech, but more so on windows..
[00:52] <tracy69> sjm cuz i have many partitions so if i wanted to put all of them it will cover whole screen so i wanted to see hdd instead
[00:52] <mibber> how can i create a new user and have it work on ubuntu from terminal? I did useradd, but it says nautilus needs home folders, etc, and this like IECheckfile or something
[00:53] <mibber> a command i can use to generate all the necessary stuff besides useradd?
[00:53] <newfedoranoob> after i install the nvidia driver on my machine in ubuntu 10.04 it gives ne a very crappy resolution
[00:53] <sjm> tracy69, but the filesystem is what is being filled and those reside inside the partitions.  You might see if you can script (in conky or outside) something to sum the different partitions.
[00:54] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: sorry, typo!
[00:54] <newfedoranoob> http://pastebin.com/Nc8Rme1t
[00:54] <newfedoranoob> here is the paste of lspci
[00:54] <DasEi> mibber: sure,  sudo adduser mibber
[00:54] <newfedoranoob> can some1 help me with this
[00:54] <mibber> DasEi: i did that but now when i login as the user it complains that he doesn't have like /home/mibber, /home/mibber/desktop, etc
[00:55] <DasEi> mibber: adduser not useradd
[00:55] <mibber> DasEi: ah okay thanks
[00:55] <sjm> mibber, I can't remember the exact switches to create the home directory, but you can "man useradd"
[00:55] <mibber> -d maybe?
[00:56] <DasEi> newfedoranoob: what's the problem ?
[00:56] <stunts513> olovefairuz: ok im assuming i just need to type:sudo stop gdm, then suudo start gdm, and maybe clik restart x if it pops up a message?
[00:56] <newfedoranoob> bad resolution
[00:56] <newfedoranoob> im on a 42' screen
[00:56] <newfedoranoob> and it only displays to 1/4 of it
[00:57] <sjm> mibber, or "-m"
[00:57] <realubot> Do you think it's possible to adjust overscan at a plasma-TV using xrandr to get the Desktop fit the TV screen?
[00:57] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: add the line but change it to the same resolution
[00:57] <newfedoranoob> DasEi, i installed the recommended driver for nvidia also
[00:57] <stunts513> ok got that done
[00:57] <newfedoranoob> so i have no idea what the problem is
[00:57] <DasEi> newfedoranoob: (please put my Nick when answering) , thats the internal on a lappi you use there ?
[00:58] <newfedoranoob> DasEi, yes but the screen is broken so i use an  ex monitor
[00:58] <newfedoranoob> well a tv
[00:59] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: so i just run those commands now right?
[00:59] <mibber> ah so i created a new user but it didn't work - can someone help me? Basically the desktop loads fine, but when i click any icon, nothing happens, the desktop refreshes -- any log files i can check or anything? maybe something isn't loading correctly on start?
[01:00] <DasEi> newfedoranoob: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:00] <DasEi> newfedoranoob: dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit                   , give URL from terminal here
[01:00] <sjm> mibber, create the directory manually, change ownership to the user and add the home directory in /etc/passwd.
[01:01] <newfedoranoob> DasEi,  umm im on fedora rite now cause i cant read anything on ubuntu
[01:01] <mibber> sjm: the adduser command worked for that
[01:01] <stunts513> ok uh im going to run that command so il be disconnected from my wifi and such, brb
[01:01] <carandraug> I am having some trouble restoring from a backup I made with rsync. During boot, I get a initramfs shell because it can't find the root device (it's looking for the old HD altough I already changed fstab)
[01:02] <sjm> mibber, ok.  you said above that it "didn't work" .  I'm glad it's fixed now.
[01:02] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: just add those to xorg.conf and restart x
[01:02] <DasEi> newfedoranoob:I see, will problaby be nouveau-firmware that collides there, but would be good to know which nvidia packages are installed, once the obsolete one are removed, run sudo nvidia-xconfig and restart xserver
[01:02] <mibber> sjm: well, the user account was fixed, the desktop still doesn't work though
[01:02] <sjm> mibber, did you log out and back in?
[01:02] <mibber> sjm: yep
[01:02] <newfedoranoob> ok
[01:03] <DasEi> newfedoranoob: you can do this from terminal, too, so don't need x for it
[01:03] <mibber> sjm: its the original problem of why i created a new account, that happens will all accounts, namely i get this error when running 'startx' but i'm not sure if its the problem: 'error setting MTTR (...) inappropriate ioctl for device(25)
[01:03] <newfedoranoob> DasEi, thx i will try when i boot ubuntu
[01:04] <sjm> mibber, so it's no longer a problem with the home directory?
[01:04] <DasEi> newfedoranoob: dpkg -l | grep nvidia shows you the nv-packets, ii means installed on that output
[01:04] <mibber> sjm: errr no
[01:05] <sjm> mibber, sorry, can't help more right now on that.
[01:05] <mibber> sjm: cool thx
[01:05] <DasEi> mibber: more issues ?
[01:06] <stunts5131> ilovefairuz:well that didnt work
[01:06] <wcomnisky> hi!
[01:06] <DasEi> !hi
[01:06] <CkhiKuzad> hello!
[01:07] <mibber> DasEi: the original issue mainly -- desktop loads fine but when i double click programs it just refreshes and doesn't run anything, i ran console and did sudo service gdm stop, then 'startx', and this desktop doesn't work either, when i switch back to console i only have 1 error, namely 'error setting MTRR (base = 0xd00000000 ... ) Inappropriate oictl for device (25)
[01:07] <wcomnisky> how can i secure clean my /var/log dir?
[01:07] <mibber> *ioctl
[01:08] <wcomnisky> i'm creating a continuous integration server, and i would share the iso without this logs
[01:08] <DasEi> mibber: approbiate cmd to restart x is sudo service gdm restart; the error you get there I can't predict once, pastebin your syslog : sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:09] <DasEi> mibber: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[01:09] <mibber> DasEi: okay
[01:09] <Antonis> Hello folks. How can I make the panel in ubuntu 10.04 netbook transparent? I have tried tweaking to theme's config folder but that only worked on ubuntu desktop edition (tried on my notebook). in netbook edition it doesn't
[01:09] <DasEi> !ccsm | Antonis
[01:09] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: usually transparency doesnt work without compiz
[01:10] <aeon-ltd> DasEi: damn you beat me
[01:10] <DasEi> :)
[01:10] <ilovefairuz> student7: pastebin the log and the conf
[01:10] <Antonis> will compiz be too heavy on a netbook?
[01:10] <DasEi> Antonis: by the way, compiz is very ressource hungry, I wouldn't do that on a nettbook
[01:10] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: what kind of netbook?
[01:11] <Antonis> I have an HP mini 210
[01:11] <DasEi> Antonis: you beat me.. hehe
[01:11] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: intel integrated gpu?
[01:11] <Antonis> not sure :p
[01:11] <stunts5131> ilovefairuz: hey it didnt work, i restarted gdm and still same old same old
[01:11] <Antonis> I have been running ubuntu desktop on it though
[01:11] <Antonis> :p
[01:12] <ilovefairuz> stunts5131: pastebin
[01:12] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: we'll have to assume the bare minimum i'd vote against it due to it criplling battery life
[01:12] <DasEi> mibber: give url of last cmd here
[01:12] <stunts5131> ilovefairuz:lemme guess u want the log file?
[01:12] <ilovefairuz> stunts5131: and the conf
[01:12] <stunts5131> ah ok
[01:12] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: not sure its good to use with metacity, but i think tint2 has pseudo-tranparency for a panel
[01:12] <Antonis> but isn't there a way to add transparency without compiz? the interface of it (where all icons are9 is transparent..
[01:13] <DasEi> mibber: pastebinit /var/log/syslog                <<will show a url in terminal, bring this here
[01:13] <DasEi> !pm | mibber
[01:13] <mibber> http://pastebin.com/E14xuVCi
[01:13] <Antonis> is tint2 a theme?
[01:13] <mickeyy> hi
[01:13] <soreau> AntiSpamMeta: What is the output of 'ps ax|grep compiz|grep -v grep' from your terminal?
[01:14] <soreau> Antonis: ^^
[01:14] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: no its a completely different panel
[01:14] <Antonis> ah :P
[01:14] <stunts5131> ilovefairuz: xorg.conf=http://pastebin.com/aw42RwvB
[01:14] <stunts5131> xorg.0.log=http://pastebin.com/iNRrnAp2
[01:14] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: metacity does have its own compositiing manager though i'm unsure whether its powerful and lightwieght enough
[01:15] <stunts5131> odd why did that go into two messages
[01:15] <mibber> DasEi: should i do the do the restart then do it agian?
[01:16] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: supposedly it works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1197529
[01:16] <mibber> DasEi: i.e. sudo service gdm stop  // start and then repost syslog?
[01:16] <Antonis> thank you very much!
[01:16] <aeon-ltd> Antonis: your welcome, i hope it works :)
[01:17] <DasEi> mibber: no, but restart, then do : dmesg | tail | pastebinit, look like your pulseaudio-server is doing some wird stuff there
[01:17] <ilovefairuz> stunts5131: Xorg didn't start at all?
[01:17] <DasEi> s*
[01:17] <stunts5131> ilovefairuz: uh from what i can tell it did
[01:17] <mibber> DasEi: restart computer or gdm
[01:17] <DasEi> mibber: gdm
[01:17] <mibber> k
[01:18] <stunts5131> ilovefairuz: theres also an xorg.1.log, maybe im sending wrong log?
[01:19] <DasEi> mibber: which distro are you using ? jaunty ?
[01:19] <mibber> 10.04
[01:20] <latagore> D: I forgot his nickname
[01:20] <DasEi> mibber: and aupdated/graded also ?
[01:20] <mibber> mmm i woudln't say fully updated but some updates
[01:20] <mibber> can i run the updater manually somehow?
[01:20] <mibber> from the command line
[01:20] <DasEi> mibber: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:21] <nitwit> ubuntu 10.04.1 64bit hangs at ubuntu logo during live session - no errors on console, only msg is confirmed switching to framebuffer device
[01:21] <Antonis> I have one more question. Where could startup script be stored except of /etc/init.d? I can't find it in the "Startup Applications" list. it shows a notify every x seconds andn ever stops.
[01:21] <DasEi> mibber: there was a bug in jaunty, that prodiced such a lock, but haven't seen it in lucid since
[01:21] <mibber> DasEi: here is dmesg output http://pastebin.com/iiiXf2mW
[01:22] <DasEi> Antonis: rc.local is a place, or /etc/init
[01:22] <nitwit> same usb disk boots fine on my desktop machine
[01:22] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: The about says the same version name
[01:22] <DasEi> mibber: that just shows a crappy floppydrive
[01:22] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> 2:22am .. gonna need lots of coffee tomorrow
[01:22] <mibber> DasEi: should i do the whole thing?
[01:22] <mibber> DasEi: not just the tail
[01:23] <SuperMiguel> so i have a file, that its supposed to be a picture but all i have its its hex... how can i find out what kinda of file i have by looking at its hex?
[01:23] <DasEi> mibber: try, if pastebin does it
[01:23] <Antonis> DasEi, where is rc.local stored? it's not in /etc/init either :\
[01:23] <WinstonSmith_> Antonis, locate rc.local
[01:23] <DasEi> Antonis: /etc/rc.local, and see :
[01:23] <DasEi> !startup
[01:24] <billy_> hi folks - how do i configure nautilus to sort in dictionary order like real apps and not in utf8 code order?
[01:24] <nitwit> any known issues with core i3 on h55 chipset? (intel intergrated graphics)
[01:24] <Fr3d0> hi good aftenoon
[01:25] <CkhiKuzad> !hi Fr3d0
[01:25] <CkhiKuzad> !hi | Fr3d0
[01:25] <mibber> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/ZGi6WybH here is last few thousand lines of dmesg
[01:25] <stunts5131> ilovefairuz: hey im goint to try something really fast and see if it works, il be online a few min b4 i have to restart gdm
[01:25] <etrask> Hello, I recently changed my Ubuntu 10.04 login password, but somethings (like Empathy) still make me put in my old password to "unlock" my personal details. How can I change this?
[01:25] <ross_> how do you change the screen resolution?
[01:26] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: system/preferences menu
[01:26] <Antonis> thanks DasEi and WinstonSmith
[01:26] <Fr3d0> well i've been using amarok for a while and i'am having annoying issue
[01:26] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: there is a video resolution applete
[01:26] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: unless you are using nvidia, then you need to use the nvidia applet
[01:26] <Fr3d0> it's seem every time i boot my machine doesn't have any sound
[01:27] <docid> hey guys, got an oddity, was playing with a hotspot controler on ubuntu server 9.10... after a reboot all my network interfaces save for a virtual bridge and lo are gone... lshw sees them and lists them as UNCLAIMED, dmesg has nothing relating to them, although tcpip does come up.... any ideas?
[01:27] <wcomnisky> who can help me? i need to clean the /var/log folder before sharing my continuous integration server in an ISO
[01:27] <ross_> presuntorj: how do i check if i'm using nvidia?
[01:27] <Fr3d0> but when i erase one file in .pulse wich is called .pulse/89d6ae6ee9e76d1cdd7a8e0e4c0707d5-runtime
[01:28] <docid> lsmod |grep -i nvid should do it
[01:28] <Fr3d0> the sound goes back
[01:28] <docid> roscogruen,
[01:28] <docid> opps, wrong nick
[01:28] <etrask> Hello, I recently changed my Ubuntu 10.04 login password, but some things (like Empathy) still make me put in my old password to "unlock" my personal details. How can I change this?
[01:28] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: well, it is the brand of the videocard, but if you are not sure, $ lspci should list many hardware including your video card
[01:28] <DasEi> mibber: is there any floppy in the drive ? remove it; apart from that , you should for a test remve pulse audio, to see if that causes the lock, and also have alook at group permissions, if the lockup just happens to your new user
[01:29] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: if its nvidia, it will say there
[01:29] <DasEi> lspci | grep -i vga,  PresuntoRJ: ross_:
[01:29] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: you can also try looking for a nvidia green icon on the system/preferences menu... if its not there, its a big clue
[01:29] <Fr3d0> in fact i'm using amarok 3.2
[01:30] <PresuntoRJ> DasEi: thanx
[01:30] <mibber> DasEi: no floppy drives, i had a user that was fine, but one day it just locked desktop for this user (can't run programs) -- what do i do to pulse audio? remove it? how?
[01:30] <DasEi> PresuntoRJ: hwinfo gives even more details
[01:30] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: it may even be nvidia but not have the propetary drivers and controls installed...
[01:30] <amaury_> hola
[01:30] <PresuntoRJ> DasEi: he was trying to determine only the manufacturer of the video card... ;)
[01:31] <DasEi> ah, ok
[01:31] <DasEi> mibber: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[01:31] <Fr3d0> sorry i meant amarok 2.3.1 and kde 4.4.2
[01:31] <PresuntoRJ> DasEi: and hwinfo is not installed by default on new systems, so users might need to be able to use lspci before trying other software
[01:32] <nitwit> just built new pc but can't get ubuntu to install. it hangs at the boot logo. very simple hardware setup - just mb (h55) cpu (i3) and sata hd connected by hdmi to lcd tv. can anyone suggest why it wont boot? tested ubuntu flash drive on other hardware and it works fine,
[01:32] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: any news?
[01:32] <DasEi> nitwit: tried to boot a live cd ?
[01:33] <mibber> DasEi: under 'the following packages will be removed', one of them is 'ubuntu-desktop' -- isn't this a problem?
[01:33] <nitwit> DasEi: no cd drive just usb stick
[01:33] <DasEi> mibber: does this happen to all apps you start ;;  yes, don't remove then
[01:33] <weblordpepeq> woah holy crap
[01:33] <weblordpepeq> look at all the people
[01:34] <stunts513> ok that didnt work
[01:34] <CkhiKuzad> worship them, weblordpepeq, for they can help.
[01:34] <CkhiKuzad> oh, and
[01:34] <CkhiKuzad> !hi | weblordpepeq
[01:34] <mibber> DasEi: i can open folders, i can right click and go to about, right click works, whenever i double click, say, terminal, notes, browser, etc, it doesn't work
[01:34] <Coronade> C++0x) >
[01:34] <weblordpepeq> :)
[01:34] <DasEi> mibber: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-module-x11 --dry-run
[01:34] <Coronade> lol
[01:34] <snow_ru> Coronade, why you always mentioned about C++0x ?
[01:34] <Coronade> brb, QT
[01:35] <DasEi> mibber: does this also suggest half software ?
[01:35] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: Thanks for your help from earlier
[01:35] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: you are wellcome
[01:35] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: is it any better now?
[01:36] <snow_ru> PresuntoRJ, yes
[01:36] <snow_ru> PresuntoRJ, thanks
[01:36] <mibber> DasEi: nope, shall i remove?
[01:36] <DasEi> mibber: yes
[01:36] <mibber> DasEi: okay removed
[01:36] <PresuntoRJ> snow_ru: good to know
[01:36] <DasEi> mibber: then let's have an example-app: sudo apt-get install vlc, if not installed yet
[01:37] <Fr3d0> hello i have my desktop with xubuntu and i've installed amarok but i'am having this annoying issue whenever i boot the sound does not work and the only way to make it back is erasing .pulse/89d6ae6ee9e76d1cdd7a8e0e4c0707d5-runtime after that the sound goes back i'm using amarok 2.3.1
[01:37] <PresuntoRJ> DasEi: sudo apt-cache policy vlc should help determine that
[01:37] <mibber> DasEi: okay i'm installing vlc,what is an example -app
[01:37] <weblordpepeq> sound in linux is a mess
[01:37] <weblordpepeq> ;(
[01:38] <DasEi> mibber: a program we try to start , so we can examine
[01:38] <PresuntoRJ> weblordpepeq: it is getting better... what is wrong with your system sound?
[01:38] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: To be honest xD I can't see the difference
[01:38] <mibber> DasEi: okay
[01:38] <PresuntoRJ> there are little ones
[01:38] <DasEi> mibber: try to launch it, first by gui : > multimedia > vlc
[01:38] <mibber> DasEi: oh vlc media player gotcha
[01:38] <PresuntoRJ> latagore:  is there an icon onthe system notification ares
[01:39] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: mine looks like a green cartoon balloon
[01:39] <DasEi> mibber: should start by single-click from the menu
[01:39] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: Yep, I'm getting a friend to message me
[01:40] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: Can you send me a PM
[01:40] <mibber> DasEi: it worked! it ran
[01:40] <mibber> DasEi: but everything else doesn't work
[01:40] <DasEi> mibber: like which programm ?
[01:41] <mibber> DasEi: it ran vlc media player
[01:41] <DasEi> mibber: which did not ?
[01:41] <mibber> DasEi: but, for instance, right above that 'movie player' failed
[01:41] <mibber> DasEi: calculator fails
[01:42] <DasEi> mibber : in terminal : gnome-mplayer
[01:42] <DasEi> !paste
[01:42] <mibber> DasEi: in the console?
[01:42] <DasEi> mibber : yes, terminal = console = trml
[01:43] <mibber> DasEi: i don't have it installed
[01:43] <mibber> DasEi: for instance,i use 'gedit'
[01:43] <Agu10> hi
[01:44] <Agu10> do you know of any cool exciting music under creative commons?
[01:44] <DasEi> mibber: so gedit, first GUI, then trml
[01:44] <Agu10> it's to use on a youtube video
[01:45] <bpietro> DasEi, just posted question on launchpad, thanks for help, nite
[01:45] <DasEi> bpietro: you found the develop-seection on it, nice
[01:46] <mibber> DasEi: didnt' work in GUI, in terminal  i just get a message 'gedit:3815: Gtk-WARNING *** cannot open display'
[01:46] <mibber> DasEi: emacs23 worked in GUI
[01:46] <mibber> DasEi: and it also works in terminal
[01:46] <Viking667> How do I stop Nautilus from starting up?
[01:47] <DasEi> mibber: so still a problem with x, sudo service gdm restart ,  to get the pulse out
[01:47] <MrJones> how can I change the system locale (no X/GUI) permanently?
[01:47] <Viking667> Every time I try to kill it off, it pops up again.
[01:47] <MrJones> in which file is that setting stored/which command line cmd can permanently change it for me?
[01:47] <DasEi> MrJones: system > admin.. > statupcsreen
[01:47] <Fr3d0> .pulse/89d6ae6ee9e76d1cdd7a8e0e4c0707d5-runtime when erasing this file in .pulse the sound goes back in my sistem amarok 2.3.1 kde 4.4.2 kernel  2.6.32-24-generic
[01:47] <MrJones> DasEi: as I said, no X/GUI.
[01:48] <SCD[Eire]> Offtopic: Anyone know what channel I can go to for GFX help?
[01:48] <mibber> DasEi: yeah i restarted it again, no gedit. Emacs works though still in GUI.
[01:48] <Fr3d0> i need help i'm bored of doing this every time i boot my system
[01:48] <nitwit> Hello, I have just built a new Media PC but can't get Ubuntu to live boot from USB flash drive. It hangs at the boot logo. It's a very simple hardware setup, just a motherboard (Intel H55 Chipset) CPU (Intel i3) and one SATA Hard Disk connected by HDMI to an LCD TV. Can anyone suggest why it will not boot? Tested the Ubuntu flash drive on other (older, more complex) hardware and it works fine. Only one messege on the console, confirning
[01:49] <DasEi> mibber: console based ( emacs) , which g-card do you use ?
[01:49] <DasEi> lspci | grep -i vga
[01:49] <Viking667> hm. Nope... gotta go. Bye
[01:50] <mibber> 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMware SVGA II Adapter
[01:50] <MaRk-I> nitwit: might be this http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[01:50] <DasEi> mibber: so a ubuntu-vm
[01:51] <mibber> DasEi: yeah running in vmware
[01:51] <DasEi> mibber: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:51] <mibber> DasEi: do i need to back stuff up before running that?
[01:51] <DasEi> no
[01:52] <nitwit> MaRk-I: Thank you, will try that now...
[01:52] <DasEi> mibber: sudo service gdm restart
[01:52] <kremlon> what happened to the #linux channel?
[01:52] <DasEi> kremlon: still there
[01:53] <kremlon> it says ##linux-overflow
[01:53] <DasEi> kremlon: ##linux
[01:53] <kremlon> when you join
[01:53] <trimeta> I just did /join #linux and nothing weird there...
[01:53] <mibber> DasEi: yeah done, didn't change anything
[01:53] <stunts5131> hey what do i type to get it to just post pastebin of the terminal
[01:53] <DasEi> kremlon: registered ?
[01:53] <MrJones> how can I set the system locale on command line permanently to something else (for all users)?
[01:53] <kremlon> no
[01:54] <hiexpo> omg
[01:54] <metaphlex> i was used to having the restricted drivers thing automatically install the correct video card, but it's not detecting anything
[01:54] <trimeta> stunts5131: You mean, you've got some text you want to pastebin?
[01:54] <ross_> presuntorj: it is nvidia
[01:54] <DasEi> stunts5131: you can pipe to pastebinit, like lspci | pastebinit
[01:54] <DasEi> !register > kremlon
[01:54] <stunts5131> uh lets ust say the typical commadn i use makes it say that theres nothing to paste
[01:54] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: do you see the nvidia icon on the system/preferences menu ?
[01:55] <kremlon> thanks
[01:55] <ross_> presuntorj: er no
[01:55] <metaphlex> i was running linux mint and got the card working, but now on a crunchbang linux install, the restricted drivers app is showing anything
[01:55] <MrJones> anyone? :x
[01:55] <stunts5131> thats what i did
[01:55] <trimeta> stunts5131: Can you be more specific about what you're trying to do? Do you want to have the output of a specific command sent to a pastebin? Try piping it to wgetpaste.
[01:55] <DasEi> mibber: so idk what is then, and running out of time, maybe just reinstall the whole desktop package and let it run ?
[01:55] <MrJones> I really have no idea where those settings are stored. somewhere in /etc/ I suppose >.>
[01:56] <trimeta> stunts5131: Maybe do a simple test, then? "echo test | wgetpaste"?
[01:56] <mibber> DasEi: just resintall ubuntu-desktop?
[01:56] <stunts5131> woa im algging
[01:56] <PyjamaSpank> Docky question, how can I change an icon? I use Conky and it shows up as just a bog standard no-icon icon. A bit ugly.
[01:56] <DasEi> mibber: and let's also bring pulse-x back, as nothing went better
[01:56] <ross_> presuntorj: ok i found it but this is
[01:56] <mibber> DasEi: thanks for your help, i will backup my files, then would u suggest resintalling everything from scratch? or how can i just reinstall problematic desktop stuff?
[01:56] <DasEi> mibber: is a shot in the dark, else you might look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and messages in same dir, I'm gtg soon
[01:56] <noob_1> Is it possible to keep a wireless connection connected while a laptop is suspended?
[01:57] <trimeta> MrJones: Hold on, let me check the Gentoo wiki, they tell you how to do things like that on the command line...
[01:57] <dougb_freebsd> noob_1: no
[01:57] <DasEi> mibber: no, no backup or new install, just the whole desktop package
[01:57] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: ?
[01:57] <ross_> presuntorj: ok nevermind
[01:57] <ross_> presuntorj: er
[01:57] <MrJones> trimeta: are you being serious? lol
[01:57] <PresuntoRJ> ross_: ok
[01:57] <MrJones> well if that helps :D
[01:57] <ross_> presuntorj: how do i install the graphic card's driver
[01:57] <noob_1> ok, thank you
[01:57] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: I have a problem logging in ubuntu on my laptop
[01:57] <mibber> DasEi: so just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:57] <stunts5131> what just happened, i started lagging and the next thing i know my terminal says display all 2245 possibilities? (y or n)
[01:58] <stunts5131> and there wasnt a command even in the line
[01:58] <DasEi> mibber: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-module-x11 && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <Guest15983> have a question about chmod 700
[01:58] <PresuntoRJ> latagore: what happenend there?
[01:58] <trimeta> MrJones: To be fair, I'm generally a Gentoo person, but this is the sort of thing they're good at.
[01:58] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: The computer freezes at logon
[01:58] <stunts5131> hopeim not being hacked via ssh...
[01:58] <DasEi> mibber: and do a reboot if the update/grade installed a new kernel, myy vm's are fine here
[01:58] <MrJones> trimeta: well I thought you might be just joking that I want to do something not using X since that's something only freaky Gentoo persons do. :P
[01:58] <Guest15983> chmod 700 does not work even with sudo any ideas
[01:58] <mibber> DasEi: okay - that resinstalls everything right? but leaves files or which
[01:58] <PresuntoRJ> latagore:  before or after you enter your name and password?
[01:58] <HeTaL> latagore: Is your partition full?
[01:59] <latagore> PresuntoRJ: At the user selection
[01:59] <DasEi> mibber : yes, no need to worry about userdata
[01:59] <mibber> DasEi: okay cool thanks
[01:59] <latagore> HeTaL: It is not, as far as I know
[01:59] <mibber> DasEi: hopefully this fixes it! Thanks a lot!
[01:59] <jazzz> hello
[01:59] <DasEi> mibber: sry for my time running out, good luck !
[01:59] <trimeta> MrJones: OK, on a Gentoo system the global locale is stored in /etc/env.d/02locale. See if you have something like that.
[02:00] <jazzz> i just instal lucid and it's very long when i start the computer. i can't find why. can somebody help me?
[02:00] <MrJones> trimeta: no, there's only /etc/environment
[02:00] <skumara> there is a beep sound when i press shutdown. how to remove this sound?
[02:00] <MrJones> trimeta: and that one just contains the PATH var
[02:00] <trimeta> Hmm...I have a Ubuntu server here, let me see if I can find where it's located in this distro...
[02:01] <jazzz> i just instal lucid and it's very long when i start the computer. i can't find why. can somebody help me?
[02:01] <stunts5131> if someone is sshing me how do i disconnect them
[02:01] <red2kic> stunts5131: Don'
[02:01] <skumara> jazzz, first boot is very long.
[02:01] <red2kic> stunts5131: Don't give them permissions in first place? :(
[02:01] <trimeta> MrJones: Try /etc/default/locale
[02:02] <PyjamaSpank> #gnome-do
[02:02] <MrJones> trimeta: that one is already set to English >.> lol
[02:02] <MrJones> (the system definitely spits out everything in GErman)
[02:02] <red2kic> stunts5131: Run 'w' in the terminal to see if somebody is sshed in.
[02:02] <trimeta> MrJones: You sure that you don't have a local setting overriding the default?
[02:02] <red2kic> stunts5131: And you could stop ssh service (at least).
[02:02] <hiexpo> i see pidgin is having a problem with twitter
[02:02] <MrJones> trimeta: I might have, sure
[02:02] <MrJones> where would I find that?
[02:03] <kremlon> stunts5131: you should check your /var/auth.logs
 yes, every boot and i don't know why....
[02:03] <bpietro> Jazzz: very long is a little bit vague, can you be a little specific, pls? An on which box it's slow? CPU type & speed, RAM qty ...
[02:03] <zephr> tried to run command sudo chmod 700 /home/***/filename and cannot get it to work any ideas running latest ubuntu
[02:03] <trimeta> MrJones: Check ~/.bashrc and other things which might be sourced on login?
[02:04] <bcbc2> ls
[02:04] <o-brown> Hello, I'm trying to install OpenBravo Erp and I get a error message in synaptic
[02:04] <MrJones> trimeta: doesn'T seem so, no
[02:04] <MrJones> no match for LC or LANG
[02:05] <trimeta> Does this happen for other users on the system?
[02:05] <o-brown> Could some one help me with my error message problem please ?
[02:05] <MrJones> trimeta: well, when using sudo yes. but that might be an intended functionality of sudo (passing on locale/env vars), don't know
[02:06] <zephr> tried to run command sudo chmod 700 /home/***/filename and cannot get it to work any ideas running latest ubuntu
[02:06] <trimeta> MrJones: And "locale -a" give you all the German stuff?
[02:06] <MrJones> yea :<
[02:07] <dougb_freebsd> zephr: do you seriously have 3 ***'s there?
[02:07] <zephr> no its a name
 ok i boot , then it soend 2 minutes for the loggin window to appears, then the background appear but not the "barre d'outil" up the screen (the place with icon for application).
[02:07] <Guest74431> what is the effect of "man -d" ?
[02:08] <trimeta> MrJones: I don't know, I'm stumped.
[02:08] <dougb_freebsd> Guest74431: man man
[02:08] <o-brown> Need help with an installation problem please
[02:08] <zephr> all i want to do is make file executable
[02:08] <n0a1ias> " my suggestion to ubuntu natty narwhal is making ipv6 enabled by default and putting as much services on it as possible", UndiFined
[02:08] <jazzz> it looks like aving a problem with the battery because of a message of allimentation program, or with usb with the dmesg, but i don't know what to do, can you help find a solution?
[02:08] <MrJones> trimeta: ok, thanks for the research anyway xP
[02:08] <undifined> lol n0a1ias
[02:09] <Guest74431> dougb_freebsd, whew thanks
[02:10] <zephr> even tried with gui left click properties has option changed it and it goes right back like it is write protected
[02:10] <latagore> I can't get past the logon screen in Ubuntu, the computer just freezes
[02:10] <bpietro> jazzz: today's HW, I suppose, not some retrocomp stuff :) so wait another 5 minutes, then Ctrl+Alt+Del for reboot. If prb persists, something went wrong with installation
[02:11] <jazzz25> i think it's something else because of the dmesg
[02:11] <zephr> also using sudo in terminal still wont make executable
[02:11] <jazzz25> do you want to see?
[02:11] <jazzz25> and the problem is with every boot
[02:12] <jazzz25> and i reinstall ubuntu because the problem soudently appears with my last version of ubuntu
[02:12] <stunts513> hey how do you disconnect someone that is sshing you?
[02:12] <zephr> can anyone help with making file executable
[02:13] <latagore> stunts513: I found this on Google http://hintsforums.macworld.com/archive/index.php/t-3701.html
[02:13] <jazzz25> oh shit i have been banned from ubuntu-fr, how can i do to join it again? just wait or something better to do?
[02:13] <zeknox> I'm have issues with my apache virtualhost, it goes to my first website in the httpd.conf, here is my config, http://pastebin.com/Cn303xzw
[02:13] <h00k> !language | jazzz25
[02:14] <stunts513> tanks
[02:14] <h00k> jazzz25: Check with #ubuntu-fr-ops
[02:14] <zephr> can anyone help with making file executable
[02:14] <o-brown> Need help with an installation problem please
[02:15] <stunts513> i thinkk someone sshed me remotely because i hada terminal up, and there wasnt any commands typed in, but i all of a sudden wen tto a new line and sayd something like display all 2423 files (y/n) and it was lagging bad
[02:15] <sabalaba> general terminal question here, how do I chmod 755 a folder? some stuff isn't showing up in my /var/www/ when I symlink it (some symlinks work, others, to a mounted drive, do not)
[02:15] <sabalaba> i want to chmod 755 /foldername/
[02:15] <sabalaba> but it doesn't do anything
[02:15] <MaRk-I> zephr: sudo chmod +x filename
[02:15] <srdgame> After upgrade system today, my firefox now becomes a "Namoroka Web Browser".  How could I roll it back?  It is because I added a mozilla daily ppa?
[02:15] <latagore> stunts513: did you look into the link?
[02:15] <jazzz25> can somebody help me for my starting problem?
[02:15] <hiexpo> use sudo
[02:16] <bpietro> zephr: chmod u+x <filename> works for me
[02:16] <latagore> There doesn't look like there is anyone to help out
[02:16] <sabalaba> hiexpo, doing that..
[02:16] <hiexpo> u+x
[02:16] <Coronade> ?
[02:16] <Coronade> brb
[02:17] <stunts513> huh o i will, im watching tv and doing homework at same time
[02:17] <brobinson_> does anyone know how to display japanese charaters in browsers on meerkat
[02:17] <Wasser> Hello people!
[02:18] <spivous> im fairly new to linux and having an issue with laptop sound. it works but is only off or on, theres no middle ground. headphones and external speakers work fine just not laptop speakers anyone have a fix for this?
[02:18] <brobinson_> @spivous try running "alsamixer" from command line
[02:19] <bpietro> jazzz25: pastebin dmesg, I'll take a look
 ok
[02:19] <jazzz25> thank you
[02:19] <mibber> hey guys, my ubuntu desktop isn't working, i just did sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop but that didn't fix it, how can i do some sort of full reinstall while keeping the data? like a repair install or something?
[02:19] <o-brown> Need help with an installation problem please
[02:19] <bpietro> jazzz25: de nada :)
[02:20] <tadcrazio> Hey guys, i was wondering if anyone knows of a desktop scheduler that i could manage my classes and work and what not without having to open a program just having it sit on my desktop
[02:20] <dan86> Hey, what does everyone in the community use for a compression tool?  (With a GUI)
[02:20] <mrpink57> tadcrazio: im sure there is a calendar widget
[02:20] <o-brown> it says the following: openbravo-erp: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:20] <dan86> I like being able to drag and drop files to add/subtract from archives
[02:20] <Wasser> Hi, i changed my fstab to automount a partition in my main hard drive in ~/Music. It works fine, but it always shows the icon of the harddrive in the desktop. Is it possible to remove that icon?
[02:21] <bpietro> o-brown: don't ask pernission to ask, pls, what's problem
[02:21] <dan86> wasser i'd like to know the answer to that question as well
[02:21] <tadcrazio> thanks mrpink
[02:21] <o-brown> bpietro: the problem is this ---> openbravo-erp: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:22] <[sleepy]> sup
[02:22] <zephr> bpietro that still did not work
[02:23] <dan86> what compression software with GUI do you guys use?
[02:23] <zephr> thats all i know to use
[02:23] <o-brown> bpietro: sorry I always have the bad habbit of making sure I'm talking to someone before getting into details
   http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96089
[02:23] <jazzz25> ok?
[02:24] <ritlee> I have a script being called from "root's" crontab to run every 5 minutes, it runs for a while but then stops running for no apparent reason.  I'm hoping some one might be able to shed some light on how to keep it running
[02:24] <spivous> brobinson: i tried alsamixer and still have same issue volume looks like it is adjusting but is only on or off
[02:25] <dougb_freebsd> ritlee: does it take more than 5 minutes to run?
[02:26] <mibber> ritlee: which language?
[02:26] <ritlee> dougb_freebsd, shouldn't it just checks a directory for .avi's and moves them to where they should go, also it appears to stop running from crontab when it finds a file... but runs perfectly when executed from cl
[02:26] <ritlee> mibber, bash
[02:27] <ritlee> mibber, language correctly defined on the first line
[02:27] <mibber> ritlee: have your code write to a file at the top of it? maybe there are errors? output stdout / stderr to a file as well
[02:27] <bpietro> zephr: what don't work, you can't change exec bit on file or file isn't run either? how you try to run it? is it file's directory in your PATH?
[02:27] <brobinson_> spivous: oh sorry Ubuntu is now on pulse audio, what I do is kill it http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7130/1/
[02:28] <spivous> brobinson: thx i'll give that a try
[02:29] <stunts513> hey is ilovefairuz still here?
[02:29] <stunts513> o good
[02:29] <stunts513> hes on the list
[02:29] <ritlee> mibber, how so? haven't learned to use those cmds yet :(... if necessary the script itself can be found at http://pastebin.com/Qk0cUknu
[02:29] <bpietro> jazzz25: yes, I saw it, loop of testing some (probably unknown or defect) device. But it's on USB bus. is there some USB stuff connected?
[02:30] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: yes
 he was deported
[02:30] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: hey i got the screen pretty far, but when it tries to get into the resilution i want it says crtc0 error
[02:30] <tracy69> :)
[02:30] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: what's the exact error string
[02:31] <Coronade> hey I have a question, when I installed ubuntu on my old ass laptop it says not-an-authentic copy of Ubuntu?? wth
[02:31] <stunts513> uh i gotta open terminal gimme a sec, some weird command got run and it maed computer lag up so bad i had to reboot
[02:31] <bpietro> Coronade, LOL
[02:31] <hiexpo> Coronade, did u md5sum it /
[02:31] <hart> ugh can someone give me a list of what i should download to make ubuntu 10.04 better?
[02:31] <IdleOne> Coronade: watch your language and I don't know where you got your copy of Ubuntu but that is not official
[02:31] <Izinucs> Coronade: really?  <sarcasim>
[02:32] <IdleOne> hart: there are tons of Top 10 things to do after you install ubuntu blogs
[02:32] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: crap i dont know what happened but its not letting me use that resolution agian..... lemme screw with it
[02:32] <Wasser> Hi, i changed my fstab to automount a partition in my main hard drive in ~/Music. It works fine, but it always shows the icon of the harddrive in the desktop. Is it possible to remove that icon?
[02:32] <hart> ahh ty ^.^
[02:32] <mibber> ritlee: i mean do something like this at the top of your script:  date > /tmp/my_task_runtime.txt at the top of your file, so you know that it at least got into your script. Then, in the cron, do this    * * * * * myscript.sh &> /tmp/some_output.txt
[02:32] <hart> that helps
[02:32] <thetimes> well how do I get an authentic copy??
[02:32] <stunts513> ok now it says it can idk
[02:32] <stunts513> here we go
[02:32] <Coronade> well how do i get an authentic copy??
[02:33] <hiexpo> ubuntu.com
[02:33] <Coronade> okie...
[02:33] <ritlee> hmmm good idea
[02:33] <mibber> ritlee: then you check if the files exist, u know ur program ran
[02:33] <stunts513> xrandr --output default --mode "1024x768_60.00"
[02:33] <stunts513> xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed
[02:33] <mibber> ritlee: then u know its not cron
[02:33] <hanasaki> I set appearance / Extra and it works fine.. however when I logout/logback in it is back to Standard... how do you get it to stay on extra between logout/login?
[02:33] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: xrandr --output default --mode "1024x768_60.00"
[02:33] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed
[02:34] <ritlee> mibber, ok i see what your saying, i have something simular, but it's actually at the END of the script
[02:34] <mibber> ritlee: yep better to place at start before any script logic
[02:34] <ritlee> mibber, good idea ;)
[02:36] <Coronade> so... about this non-authentic copy..
[02:36] <Coronade> did it have a rootkit in it or something?
[02:36] <red2kic> Coronade and thetimes is the same person living in pretty awful small population. Clearly he have no life. :(
[02:36] <Coronade> I know you can't really know for sure, but how does that happen?
[02:37] <thetimes> how often do hackers put a rootkit in a ubuntu image?
[02:37] <stunts513> there are rootkits for linux?
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[02:37] <thetimes> I don't know, but I would imagine..
[02:37] <stunts513> i thought linux was supposed to be almost completely virus preoof
[02:37] <thetimes> uhh..
[02:37] <thetimes> no.
[02:37] <IdleOne> Coronade: thetimes Please pick a client and stick with it. no need to ask the same question on separate nicks
[02:38] <Izinucs> stunts513: yes but you typically have to accept its install
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[02:38] <jason235> im haveing trouble with Flash Plugin crashing in firefox
[02:38] <o-brown> I have this problem ---> openbravo-erp: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1, can someone help me ?
[02:38] <thetimes> okay, i'll ask elsewhere.
[02:38] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone know why my wireless keeps automatically deauthenticating? is anyone good at wireless here?
[02:38] <millertimek1a2m3>  I need some help
[02:38] <stunts513> sounds like what happens to me on windows....
[02:38] <chris_osx> you need a better wlan cable
[02:38] <jason235> do u have wep password protect ur wireless router millertimek1a2m3
[02:39] <dublisk> should /lib be on my LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? I am trying to compile something and the configure script complains about the readline library. I have a readline.so.6 in /lib
[02:39] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: u get those messages with tthe commands i sent? just wondering im multitasking and i suck at it
[02:39] <rjt> "ip link set eth1 up dynamic on"  throws  'either "dev" is duplicate or "dynamic" is garbage.'
[02:40] <ilovefairuz> stunts513: yes, looking it up
[02:40] <rjt>  i noticed that on Fedora13, dhclient runs much much much more quickly after running "ip link set eth1 up dynamic on" and this LiveCD ipconfig dhcp client times out too quickly.
[02:41] <rjt> BusyBox v1.15.3 (ubuntu1.15.3-1ubuntu4)
[02:42] <Izinucs> rjt: is this in the live cd or server? or an install?
[02:42] <rjt> LiveCD
[02:42] <latagore> Hi, I'd just like to know how to modify GRUB so it doesn't auto pick an OS
[02:43] <Izinucs> rjt: could be networkmanager interfearing with your manual attempt
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[02:43] <stunts513> you don't want to fix it manually i dont suppose?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> latagore:  you want it to never auto-start a selection. you want it to wait forever for you to hit enter?
[02:43] <rjt> NetworkManager is not even on the CD at this point.  live-initramfs calls ipconfig which does a dhcp that times out.
[02:43] <uRock> ilovefairuz, You were right in the advice earlier. When changing from 64bit to 32bit without changing the /home there were no problems.
[02:44] <Izinucs> !grub2 | latagore Look for the "timing" line
[02:44] <mmnicolas> does anyone have any experience with live-helper and upstart, im trying to set up root auto-login but /etc/init/tty1.conf gets rewritten by some other scripts, during boot its says these scripts are loaded from /scripts but no such irectory exists
[02:44] <latagore> Dr_Willis: considering GRUB autostarts an OS that doesn't work properly at the moment, yes
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> latagore:  edit the proper entry in /etc/default/grub  to set the timeout. I think -1 waits for4ever.
[02:45] <Wasser> Hi, i changed my fstab to automount a partition in my main hard drive in ~/Music. It works fine, but it always shows the icon of the harddrive in the desktop. Is it possible to remove that icon?
[02:45] <o-brown> I have this problem ---> openbravo-erp: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1, can someone help me ?
[02:45] <latagore> lzinucs: I'm not running grub2
[02:45] <latagore> Dr_Willis: Thanks a bunch
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> mmnicolas:  ive made a /etc/init/ script taht started a bash terminal as root on a cons0ole at boot time. - if thats what you are trying to do.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> latagore:  if not using grub2. then you will need to edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg i belive.
[02:46] <Izinucs> latagore: then /etc/default/grub is the wrong place.. /etc/boot/grub I seem to remember is close
[02:46] <mmnicolas> Dr_Willis: this will probably get overridden by the live scripts too
[02:46] <Izinucs> latagore: actually Dr_Willis has it right :)
[02:46] <sfears> grub2 uses /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[02:46] <Quantum_Ion> man I hate grub2
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> mmnicolas:  mine dosent.. becasue its not called /etc/init/ttyS1.conf its called /etc/init/SOMTHINGELSE :)
[02:46] <Izinucs> sfears: except that gets overwritten automatically
[02:46] <millertimek1a2m3> jason235 I'm having issues maintaining a connection with an Atheros 928X wireless card
[02:47] <latagore> lzinucs: Thanks :]
[02:47] <Quantum_Ion> I look at grub2 and I don't even want to touch it
[02:47] <latagore> Dr_Willis: Thanks to you too :]
[02:47]  * sfears also gets confused by grub2
[02:47] <mmnicolas> Dr_Willis: do you use it in a live environment ?
[02:47] <mmnicolas> but mine needs to show up on tty1
[02:47]  * l03a_JR is away, auto-away after 15 minutes, (log\off pager\on)
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> mmnicolas:  It uses the openvt command thats not installed by default. You can force it to start on tty1 if you w2anted to.
[02:48] <mmnicolas> Dr_Willis: but then it will also start the other tty1.conf
[02:48] <realcoolguy> Grub2 problems may grow more prevelant in dual boot environments as a lot of windows programs are now modifying bytes outside of partitioned space.  So it is a good idea to know how it works.
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> mmnicolas:  here it is for you to look at.
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> /etc/init$ pastebinit  sulogin.conf
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/8iXKSyQi
[02:48] <mmnicolas> thanks
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Grub2 has a lot of VERY handy features.
[02:49] <sfears> modifying bytes outside of partitioned space??
[02:49] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: glad to see you in tonight.. any solutions for when you ssh -X into an ubuntu/kubuntu box and issue "echo $DISPLAY" with a blank line as a result?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Lets see over the years ive learned Grub, LILO, Syslinux, and Grub2  :)
[02:49] <songoku> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Izinucs:  x forwarding on the server may be disabled
[02:49] <latagore> Hm, well I guess this is the appropriate time to ask about Ubuntu; I can't get Ubuntu to work at the login screen, it freezes
[02:50] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: nope.. set in both ssh_config and sshd_config
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Izinucs:  or the ssh agent/tool isent running when you connect. i recall thats what sets that variable
[02:50] <realcoolguy> latagore: any recent changes? has it worked before and now it doesn't?  Also have you ruled out hardwares issues (checking the Ram can be a good idea, memtest86)
[02:50] <sfears> latagore: xorg config problems perhaps?
[02:51] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: how do you mean, agent/tool?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> latagore:  can you ssh in, does alt-ctrl-f1 throuigh f5 work?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Izinucs:  when you ssh in, theres some ssh-SOMTHING that runs and sets those variables
[02:51] <songoku> How do who know what it is mean of this line: pkgdatadir = $(datadir)/@PACKAGE@
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Izinucs:  from what i recall reading in a big book-on-ssh ages ago
[02:51] <latagore> realcoolguy: I just installed it on my computer, but I can test the memory
[02:51] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: hummmm
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[02:51] <latagore> Dr_Willis: It freezes those screens too
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> latagore:  it freezes on the consoles also but you can switch back/forth to them?
[02:52] <Alexander_> Wireless internet appears to be connected (showing bars). Wired internet functions normally. Wireless does not load web pages.
[02:52] <latagore> Dr_Willis: Uh, I can switch between consoles for a couple seconds before the login screen pops up
[02:52] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: even when logging in locally with "ssh localhost" it gives the same result.
[02:52] <Alexander_> Seeking advice
[02:53] <realcoolguy> latagore: hmmm well I always like to test it on the live cd too.  If I can get in and everything works there, it's usually something I did to the system.
[02:53] <latagore> Dr_Willis: a couple seconds later, the SSH freezes as well
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> latagore:  so you go to the console... then GDM 'pops back up' eh.. thats odd.. ssh freezing? thats VERY odd.
[02:53] <latagore> Talking to two people at the same time is rather difficult =o
[02:54] <songoku> How do who know what it is mean of this line: pkgdatadir = $(datadir)/@PACKAGE@
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Izinucs:  theres the ssh -v or -vv or -vvv options that give more verbose logging info also
[02:54] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: I'll give that a shot
[02:54] <songoku> hi tuan
[02:54] <pfifo> im trying to write a program that can access data from the clipboard. Im not at all familiar with how ubuntu has implemented a clipboard, can anyone here point me in the right direction?
[02:54] <tuan> Hi songoku.
[02:54] <latagore> realcoolguy: Lemme just reboot
[02:54] <songoku> tuan la nguoi viet a
[02:54] <Izinucs> latagore: best to use nicks so lines will highlight.. type the first few characters and hit TAB for autocompletion
[02:54] <tuan> Has the subject New Ubuntu Wallpaper already appeared for here?
[02:55] <IdleOne> songoku: Please please in English in this channel.
[02:55] <songoku> ok
 i dont speak english i do speak American
[02:56] <latagore> lzinucs: Not quite sure how to do that
[02:56] <IdleOne> tracy69: that will have to do I suppose
[02:56] <tuan> I speak South American.
[02:56] <Alexander_> I'm able to connect to my wireless router but websites won't load. The network icon shows bars wazzup with that?
[02:56] <latagore> lzinucs: It works on other people's names but not yours
[02:56] <songoku> are there anybody know what it is mean of this line: pkgdatadir = $(datadir)/@PACKAGE@
[02:56] <Quantum_Ion> Dr_Willis, I have a problem can you help me out
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  check the package manager. theres several clipboard manager programs. and i recall one or 2 that worked from a terminal for 'scripting' access tothe clipboard also
[02:56] <Izinucs> latagore: I type "lat" then hit TAB to autocomplete your nick.. mine begins with an I as in "eye" not l
[02:56] <Quantum_Ion> Dr_Willis, Do you know where the X configuration file on Ubuntu Linux is located I cannot find mine
[02:56] <sfears> yet another reason i'm not proud to be american...  FYI, american is not a language
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Quantum_Ion:  I got 2 min befor i leave for work.. :)
[02:56] <pfifo> songoku, that line is setting a variable
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Quantum_Ion:  by default X auto configrues. IF  xorg.conf exists  (it dosent have to) its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <latagore> Izinucs: Got it =o Forgot about that
[02:57] <Izinucs> latagore: worked that time :)
[02:57] <tuan> Most countries aren't languages.
[02:57] <songoku> is it variable environment?
[02:57] <Quantum_Ion> Dr_Willis, okay let me check it out
[02:57] <tuan> That's why they're called Countries and not Languages.
[02:57] <songoku> where do you come from Mr tuan?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Quantum_Ion:  My intel machines dont have a xorg.conf , my nvidia machines do.. because the nvidia-settings tool makes one.
[02:58] <tuan> I'm Brazililian, songoku, and you?
[02:58] <songoku> ah, i'm from chinese
[02:58] <MaRk-I> !ot | tuan, songoku
[02:58] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, no, im looking for im guessing GTK+ stuff, I want to access the data from a C program not a shell script (and calling programs from programs is frowned upon) Im not exactly sure where to look though and I dont want to scour throught the complete X and GTK+ docs
[02:58] <Alexander_> is there a ping like command I can issue in the terminal to test connectivity?
[02:58] <Quantum_Ion> Dr_Willis, I want to transfer my Ubuntu Linux X config file to FreeBSD ?
[02:58] <tuan> Yah, okay, I'm leaving... Bye, people. Came here by mistake.
[02:59] <Izinucs> Alexander_: sure "ping IPAddress
[02:59] <Quantum_Ion> Dr_Willis, but I cannot find the X config file on my Ubuntu Linux system
[02:59] <tuan> (Really, clicked on Xchat on Pinguy and here I'm.
[02:59] <latagore> realcoolguy: I just tried to boot from the live CD, it failed
[02:59] <hiexpo> hmm
[02:59] <Izinucs> latagore: did you get the first screen asking for "install / try ubuntu" ?
[02:59] <Alexander_> Izinucs do you know what might be keeping webpages from loading despite my connection to our wireless router>
[02:59] <hiexpo> !live
[03:00] <Maahes> I just had a problem with my liveUSB install.....It went into suspend when I closed the laptop lid, which is fine, but I lost my touchpad when it came back up, is there some way to reinitialize the touchpad?
[03:00] <latagore> Izinucs: Yep; I did get it working with advice to use nomodeset as a boot parameter
[03:00] <Izinucs> latagore: using what parameter?
[03:00] <Izinucs> Alexander_: might be a DNS issue.. not sure how to solve that one.
[03:00] <latagore> Izinucs: "nomodeset"?
[03:00] <Izinucs> latagore: is it a nvidia chipset?
[03:00] <songoku> are  there any document guide about script similar to this script: pkglibdir = $(libdir)/@PACKAGE@
[03:00] <songoku> pkglibexecdir = $(libexecdir)/@PACKAGE@
[03:00] <songoku> am__cd = CDPATH="$${ZSH_VERSION+.}$(PATH_SEPARATOR)" && cd
[03:00] <songoku> install_sh_DATA = $(install_sh) -c -m 644
[03:00] <songoku> install_sh_PROGRAM = $(install_sh) -c
[03:00] <songoku> install_sh_SCRIPT = $(install_sh) -c
[03:00] <FloodBot2> songoku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <Maahes> Alexander_, my wireless router's dns stops delivering pages for me all the time
[03:01] <Alexander_> Maahes what's that mean? dns?
[03:01] <Alexander_> can I turn it off/delete it *snicker*
[03:01] <songoku> i'm researching make file but i don't know that
[03:01] <latagore> Izinucs: Chipset as in graphics card? It's an AMD machine so I would think otherwise. I don't know though
[03:01] <hiexpo> !dns
[03:01] <Izinucs> dns = domain name server = looks up web pages for coorisponding ip addresses then connects you
[03:01] <Maahes> Alexander_, Domain Name Server, that's the part of your router that translates example.com into 123.456.890
[03:02] <dougb_freebsd> name servers don't look up web pages :)
[03:02] <red2kic> Alexander_: http://www.google.com is easier to remember than http://74.125.45.103
[03:02] <Izinucs> latagore: I have an AMD machine with nvidia chipset on the motherboard.. that's what I'm wondering about.
[03:02] <Alexander_> true but I just tried ubuntu software center = fail aswell
[03:02] <latagore> Izinucs:  Can I check from the BIOS?
[03:02] <hiexpo> this is not bsd
[03:02] <Maahes> Anyways anyone know how to reinitialize a touchpad in ubuntu?
[03:03] <mr_pinc> Anyone know which version of Ubuntu server I need to install for to run on a Zotac MAG with Ion MB?  The AMD64 version or the i386 version?
[03:03] <latagore> Izinucs:  I went into the bios, can't figure it out
[03:03] <Izinucs> latagore: you can with sudo lshw .. that'll give a bunch of info about your system
[03:04] <SubCool> could someone help me with this edit? i knkow its stupid, but i dont get bash.
[03:04] <SubCool> bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[03:04] <Izinucs> latagore: but if you can't boot the live cd that would make it tough.. you could try a different mod to the kernel line for boot.. put in pci=nomsi before boot splash
[03:05] <SubCool> I am supposed to do that so that skype will work, how come when i run that command i get a bash prompt? lol- i know stupid.. but i dont get it
[03:05] <Izinucs> SubCool: does skype load after issuing that line?
[03:05] <SubCool> no
[03:05] <latagore> Izinucs: I'm booting from recovery mode
[03:05] <SubCool> i get a >
[03:06] <Izinucs> SubCool: you have a " ' " mark at the beginning of LD_PR.... but there's no ending ' mark
[03:06] <SubCool> oh- didnt notice that.. ok. ill try
[03:07] <Izinucs> SubCool: make sure it's in the right place.. check the docs you got that line from
[03:07] <MaRk-I> SubCool: try without the bash command see what happens:   LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[03:07] <latagore> Izinucs:  I ran the command, but I don't know what I'm looking for xD
[03:07] <SubCool> lol- the docs are interesting, i didnt notice the first ' - i though it was for sytation.
[03:07] <Maahes> Anyways anyone know how to reinitialize a touchpad in ubuntu?
[03:07] <SubCool> how about the multi-desktop widget? i accidentally deleted mine
[03:08] <user796> hello folks
[03:08] <SubCool> Izinucs, ty- that fixed it..
[03:08] <user796> it would seem that the UNR should have an encrypted lvm option
[03:08] <SubCool> Thanks MaRk-I
[03:08] <Izinucs> latagore: scroll through it and look for chipset/motherboard etc.. or simply look for nvidia where ever it appears and see what it references.
[03:08] <petersteele111> damn it it wont let me join #python again. I already registered my username
[03:08] <Izinucs> SubCool: np :)
[03:08] <user796> encrypted lvm would be most needed for a netbook which is easily lost
[03:08] <nimbiotics> hello all. Ive got vbox on ubuntu 10.04. On my windows xp virtual machine, under Devices->USB devices, all the installed devices are grayed out and won't let me use them. How can I fix that behavior? TIA
[03:08] <petersteele111> and confirmed it with the code with nickserv
[03:09] <latagore> Izinucs:  Acer motherboard
[03:09] <Izinucs> nimbiotics: did you install vbox from the repos?
[03:09] <sfears> nimbiotics: you need vbox server for usb support i believe
[03:09] <MaRk-I> nimbiotics: if you're using vbox OSE you cant use USB devices, need to install the vbox PUEL version
[03:09] <Izinucs> latagore: ok.. that a brand name.. not the chipset
[03:10] <SubCool> no one? Widget? :-)
[03:10] <Izinucs> nimbiotics: the PUEL version is only available on the vbox site.. they do have a deb for ubuuntu
[03:11] <latagore> Izinucs: I can't find anything explicitly under chipset
[03:12] <Izinucs> latagore: well you could add pci=nomsi anyway and see if that helps.. won't hurt anything in the live environment
[03:12] <sfears> Izinucs: i think vbox-server has usb support as well
[03:12] <user796> will someone pm me if they know how to setup ssh to use keys instead of passwords
[03:12] <Izinucs> sfears: as far as I know vbox PUEL is the server
[03:12] <sfears> I see
[03:12] <Izinucs> sfears: you might be thinking of vmware-server
[03:13] <nimbiotics> Izinucs: ive got v3.2.8 r64453
[03:13] <holmser> does anyone here use ispconfig?
[03:13] <sfears> perhaps
[03:13] <MaRk-I> !ssh | user796
[03:13] <Izinucs> nimbiotics: doesn't really tell us if you got it from the repos or their site
[03:14] <SubCool> no one? what is theat multi desktop widget?
[03:14] <DistantStar>  What should I do, if I lost sound from speaker output from the motherboard? This happend after I installed my new Radeon HD 5670. The speaker out is perfectly fine on Win7 but on Ubuntu, no sound output.
[03:14] <user796> checking out the help pages
[03:14] <nimbiotics> Izinucs: got it from the site
[03:14] <latagore> Izinucs: No success
[03:15] <Izinucs> nimbiotics: then before starting a vm, highlight it and click settings.. enable usb but disable usb 2.0 .. then start the vm
[03:15] <lxd_> 大家好。
[03:15] <MaRk-I> !cn | lxd_
[03:15] <mibber> hi, i have no floppy drive attached, but programs won't run from my desktop, instead this gets put in my syslog: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[03:15] <mibber> does someone know what that means?
[03:15] <sfears> DistantStar: is ALSA installed?
[03:15] <lucascastro> hey. Can someone say me where I can the ipp2p rules on ufw conf and where put in ?
[03:16] <Izinucs> latagore: last attempt for me... get rid of quiet splash from the boot line and then you can watch the progress of the boot.. you should see some errors at some point.. usually the last thing is what causes the hang.
[03:16] <DistantStar> sfears, alsa-base is installed.
[03:17] <sfears> i have some audio problems when i turn jack on.. do you have jack intstalled?
[03:17] <nimbiotics> hello all. Ive got vbox PUEL v3.2.8 r64453on ubuntu 10.04. On my windows xp virtual machine, under Devices->USB devices, all the installed devices are grayed out and won't let me use them. How can I fix that behavior? TIA
[03:17] <latagore> Izinucs: The command line finishes and the login screen pops up and that's when it freezes, so I don't think quiet mode changed anything
[03:17] <Izinucs> nimbiotics: ask in #vbox too.
[03:17] <latagore> Izinucs: removing quiet mode*
[03:18] <sfears> why we even try to help
[03:18] <sfears> ??
[03:18] <DistantStar> sfears, What do you mean by jack on? Is jack a program or GPU setting?
[03:18] <sfears> jack is a program
[03:18] <DistantStar> sfears, In that case, no. I do not have it installed
[03:18] <Izinucs> pulseaudio and jack might not cooexist well together..
[03:18] <sfears> DistantStar: from a command line "apt-cache policy jackd"
[03:19] <avi_> Hello, because of some problems I won't get into now, I need to remove Ubuntu from a mutli-boot system. I have spent some time getting tmy Ubuntu system to work the way I like it, and I would NOT like to have to reinstall from scratch and redo everything.. Is there some way of making an EXACT, working, usable copy of my LinuxUbuntu partition, so that I can reinstall Lucid to a new partition, and then simply "restore" to my saved (current)
[03:19] <avi_> configuration? Simply backing up my /home/$USER is not what I'm looking for.. I'm looking for a complete and total backup/restore process. Thanks a ton in advance!!
[03:19] <a> i am a  new player
[03:19] <sfears> i had luck with a pulseaudio module and jack.. but when i upgraded they stopped working well Izinucs
[03:19] <Izinucs> !clone | avi_
[03:19] <a> what are you  find
[03:20] <DistantStar> sfears, http://pastebin.com/KkApcRGE
[03:20] <Izinucs> avi_: also clonezilla and partimage .. those two are like windows ghost
[03:20] <cached> is it safe to delete a /usr/share/doc folder for something i installed and then removed via apt?
[03:20] <a> do here have chinese
[03:20] <a> i want to take to a chinese
[03:21] <latagore> Izinucs:  Any last advice?
[03:21] <theyranos> !cn | a
[03:21] <Izinucs> !cn | a
[03:21] <cached> apparently the lilypond docs take up 400MB, which I'm not okay with
[03:21] <Maahes> my machine no longer recognizes my trackpad as existing since coming out of suspend, at least its not listed when I do xinput list how might I find the device, reinintialize it, and re attach it to x?
[03:21] <a>    thanks   i like linux  and i will use it for a long
[03:21] <avi_> Izinucs: Thanks.. but will the aptitude option save my app's configurations, and my desktop UI settings and stuff?
[03:22] <sfears> DistantStar: from the sound control panel can you get a test tone out of any of the alsa/pulse audio/etc options
[03:22] <billy_> hi folks - nautilus filename sort order is wrong - how do i fix it to work like real programs?
[03:22] <latagore> I can't get Linux to get login; it freezes before I can choose a user, can anyone help>
[03:22] <Izinucs> avi_: no.. just your installed apps.. it's basically a one step reinstall of the programs you have now.. without any customizations.. clonezilla and partimage are more what you're looking for.
[03:23] <avi_> Izinucs:
[03:23] <avi_> Izinucs: Excellent. I'll look into them.. thanks!
[03:23]  * Maahes bangs his head against the wall
[03:23] <sfears> latagore.. did you understand the "quiet splash" option someone mentioned earlier, that could help diagnose
[03:23] <Maahes> I wish I had money to buy canonical's desktop support right now
[03:24] <latagore> sfears: It gets past booting
[03:24] <latagore> sfears: and onto the logon screen
[03:25] <DistantStar> sfears, Hm, well I'm not running Gnome. I'm running Xfce4. Also, I tried the test with aplay and Youtube with no feedback. Another thing is, I'm guessing Ubuntu is running the default GPU HDMI setting instead of the motherboard onboard speaker output.
[03:25] <Izinucs> latagore: could also be just a bad burn of the cd
[03:26] <latagore> Izinucs: I'm talking to you on a computer installed from the same live CD
[03:26] <Izinucs> DistantStar: gnome has a setting section for changing the default for audio from hdmi to others.. perhaps you have a menu item like that
[03:26] <Izinucs> latagore: ah.. well. bad cdrom?  <I'm shooting in the dark here>
[03:27] <latagore> I actually installed it on the other computer first and then this one
[03:27] <sfears> latagore: you said your tty screens freeze as well??
[03:27] <latagore> sfears: Yep
[03:27] <DistantStar> Izinucs, I'm curious if Xfce4 has that setting and if not, what would you recommend?
[03:28] <Izinucs> DistantStar: it may be there.. or it may be a supplemental program you install to change the settings.. it's been a long time since I've run Xfce
[03:28] <DistantStar> Izinucs, Ok, I'll install gnome on here and report back. Brb
[03:29] <theyranos> I'm having trouble enabling the root account. I've tried passwd and passwd -l, with apparent success, but still can't su. I get the "Your account has expired" message. Any suggestions?
[03:29] <Maahes> my machine no longer recognizes my trackpad as existing since coming out of suspend, at least its not listed when I do xinput list how might I find the device, reinintialize it, and re attach it to x?
[03:29] <Izinucs> !root | theyranos
[03:29] <Micheal`> hmmmm like gnome is a 3 min install?
[03:29] <sfears> latagore: perhaps some kind of script is being executed pre-login crashing your system?  i wouldn't know where to start with that.  does recovery mode freeze as well?
[03:30] <Maahes> theyranos, why would you want to enable root?
[03:30] <theyranos> Maahes, liznucs: Because I need to do apt, and a recent apt-get dist-upgrade broke sudo
[03:30] <DistantStar> Micheal`, Well, I'm running Ubuntu remember. :) I'm not compiling from source.
[03:30] <Micheal`> even then
[03:30] <latagore> sfears: Recovery mode works fine
[03:31] <Izinucs> theyranos: boot to the recovery kernel.. you're root there by default
[03:31] <Maahes> theyranos, you might be better off using a live CD, Chrooting into your drive, and dist-upgrading from there.
[03:32] <Maahes> or rolling back, however you prefer
[03:32] <theyranos> i'm chrooted into the drive from its host machine
[03:32] <theyranos> unfortunately, I can't get to the recovery console thanks to the way the virtual machines are set up here
[03:33] <latagore> sfears: Do you know what nomodeset does as a boot parameter?
[03:33] <Maahes> theyranos, eek.
[03:33] <Maahes> I'm not qualified to help at that point ^_^
[03:33] <theyranos> my choices are chrooting as i have done, or ssh. But I can't ssh in as root for obvious reasons, so I have to ssh in as my normal user, who can no longer sudo
[03:33] <Maahes> my machine no longer recognizes my trackpad as existing since coming out of suspend, at least its not listed when I do xinput list how might I find the device, reinintialize it, and re attach it to x?
[03:34] <latagore> Heh, I feel sorry for you Maahes, no one has answered your question
[03:34] <mibber> hi guys, when i double click a program on the desktop while simulatenously watching syslog, i dont see any changes to syslog -- shouldn't this be logged?
[03:34] <Jordan_U> theyranos: What happens when you try to use sudo? What package do you think broke sudo?
[03:34] <theyranos> Maahes: I assume you've already tried this, but do you know what kernel module is driving your trackpad? You might be able to reinit with a simple rmmod followed by modprobe.
[03:35] <sfears> latagore: looks like it loads vesa display configs.. i've had problems at login before with nVidia chips, that's why i asked if your tty's freeze
[03:35] <latagore> Mibber: shouldn't you refresh or something?
[03:35] <Maahes> theyranos, THANKYOU, I had forgotten the damn command, the only thing I could remember was depmod
[03:35] <theyranos> Jordan_U: Something to do with NFS. Sudo itself works, but I'm no longer in the admin group... or any group for that matter.
[03:35] <mibber> latagore: refresh what
[03:35] <latagore> mibber: your log viewer
[03:35] <mibber> latagore: i am using tail -f /var/log/syslog
[03:35] <JabDesign> so it looks like ubuntu's epiphany cannot connect to AIM anymore
[03:35] <JabDesign> anyone else experience that?
[03:36] <sfears> latagore: since your tty's freeze i would say it's not a display driver problem, but nVidia stuff is pesky sometimes.  Try loading a generic xorg.conf file and see what happens
[03:36] <latagore> sfears: I wouldn't know how to do that
[03:36] <Jordan_U> theyranos: Is your /etc/group on NFS?
[03:36] <sfears> well.. first try the nomode set boot option
[03:36] <latagore> mibber: I don't know from here; I'm only a beginner at Linux
[03:36] <theyranos> Jordan_U: NIS, sorry, and yes.
[03:36] <latagore> sfears: I tried it before and I know it works
[03:37] <theyranos> Jordan_U: The existence of my user account, and the fact that it should be in admin, are both NIS things.
[03:37] <sfears> latagore: it sound kind of like the nomodeset option loads generic display options which might solve your problem, if so we've diagnosed your problem and can play with your xorg settings then
[03:38] <latagore> sfears: Alright, though I wouldn't know how to change xorg
[03:38] <theyranos> I can probably just tweak /etc/group on the virtual machine to get back in...
[03:38] <sfears> ohh.. well then latagore, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[03:38] <Tater3000> I need help, when my computer goes into suspend I can't get it out, how can I fix this, its a hp pavillion dv8000
[03:39] <sfears> latagore: execute that from your recovery mode and reboot.. see if it works
[03:39] <AlbertoP> hello
[03:39] <AlbertoP> is there an automated tool to build live images (personalized) based on ubuntu?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> theyranos: That's what I would recommend, at least it should let you have access to debug NIS.
[03:39] <latagore> sfears: gonna do that
[03:39] <hart> hey guys is there a way i can use my webcam in chatrooms? it doesnt seem to have the drivers our soemthing
[03:39] <AlbertoP> I basically need a standard live + some pre-compiled tools
[03:40] <Jordan_U> !remaster | AlbertoP
[03:40] <avi_> hello, does anyone know if Clonezilla supports ext4 fully?
[03:40] <Micheal`> i would sure hope so
[03:40] <Micheal`> but i dont know honestly
[03:40] <avi_> :P
[03:40] <AlbertoP> Jordan_U: thanks
[03:41] <avi_> Yeah, it would be a REAL bummer if it didn't..
[03:41] <Micheal`> parted-magic worked ok last i used it too
[03:41] <latagore> sfears: Yep, same error as when I asked someone else
[03:41] <latagore> sfears: there is no output for the command
[03:41] <latagore> sfears: maybe my xorg package doesn't exist at all
[03:41] <avi_> Perhaps you could suggest a similar tool? I need to do a backup of my Lucid system, so that when I wipe the HD and reinstall Lucid vanilla, I can just restore to the exact state my computer is in right now.
[03:41] <Jordan_U> AlbertoP: You're welcome.
[03:42] <sfears> that command should create a xorg.conf file
[03:42] <avi_> Partimage won't do it because it can't support ext4.. :/
[03:42] <latagore> sfears: Well someone said it should give a bunch of output
[03:42] <latagore> sfears: But I'm getting nothing
[03:43] <sfears> latagore: "apt-cache policy xorg"
[03:43] <sfears> installed?
[03:43] <mr_pinc> question: what is 'ubuntu basic server' in the ubuntu server menu.  do i need to install this?
[03:43] <latagore> sfears: Yep
[03:43] <upgrdman> anyone know of a good gui for syncing folders between two linux boxes?
[03:43] <sfears> ok.. "lspci" what does it say by VGA?
[03:43] <xangua> upgrdman: ubuntu one, dropbox¿
[03:44] <i_is_broke> can i safely remove konqueror from my system, and if so whats the easiest way?
[03:44] <Micheal`> avi_, chack here: http://clonezilla.org/
[03:44] <latagore> sfears: ATI Radeon HD 4200
[03:44] <Izinucs> rsync has a gui.. look in synaptic
[03:44] <Micheal`> grsync
[03:44] <sfears> i_is_broke: "sudo apt-get remove --purge konqueror" maybe?
[03:44] <Izinucs> that's it !!
[03:44] <avi_> Micheal`, That's what I'm angling at right now. Can you personally vouch for it's success?
[03:44] <Micheal`> you're welcome
[03:45] <i_is_broke> latagore, i have the same onboard graphics card and it sucks...bought an nvidia and works like a charm..
[03:45] <Micheal`> i havent done those in a while i just backup my home and rebuild
[03:45] <latagore> i_is_broke: lol Mine is the netbook version
[03:45] <Micheal`> grsycn it to be exact lol
[03:45] <theyranos> i can now sudo su -  on the virtual machine thanks to some config file tweaking from the host machine, but I would still like to enable root on this machine so I have a backup for when this happens again.
[03:46] <avi_> Micheal`, Right. But i'm concerned about apps and settings not data.. all my media/documents I have on an external ext4 drive specifically for that. :D
[03:46] <Izinucs> theyranos: create a secondary user account for backup..
[03:46] <sfears> latagore: did you say you currently have no "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file?
[03:46] <i_is_broke> latagore, sorry about your luck...lol i left my laptop running win 7 just for that reason. i didnt want to mess with it.
[03:46] <latagore> sfears: That's just my conjecture; I'll look for it now
[03:46] <latagore> i_is_broke: It
[03:46] <Micheal`> what app settings? they should all be in your home , well in most cases
[03:46]  * sfears is looking up the definition of conjecture
[03:47] <latagore> i_is_broke: It's apparently one of the best netbook graphics cards lol
[03:47] <adante> how can i disable compiz from the command line, when the gnome-session/x display is not running (ie next time gnome starts i don't want it to start compiz)
[03:47] <DistantStar> Izinucs, I have played around with the sound settings, between the on board and the HDMI, but no sound still. Is this a problem with the asound.conf issue?
[03:47] <Izinucs> adante: metacity --replace
[03:47] <soreau> adamx: chmod -x `which compiz`
[03:47] <avi_> Micheal`, I mean like, all the apps I've installed, custom settings, server config files, and other settings that (I don't think are in /home/$USER
[03:47]  * sfears adds conjecture to his dictionary
[03:47] <Jordan_U> adante: Easiest way is "sudo apt-get remove compiz"
[03:47] <sfears> the world is flat, that is my conjecture
[03:47] <theyranos> Izinucs: Thanks. Donno why I didn't think of that :-)
[03:47] <i_is_broke> latagore, oh i love it on win 7, just not for my linux box... its got great graphics, just amd needs to make it easier for everyone to install them right.
[03:47] <Izinucs> DistantStar: sounds like a mystery to me.. no pun intended :).. sorry I don't have the answers
[03:47] <adante> Izinucs: that requires an x display
[03:47] <Micheal`> avi_, well cloning the wholedrive wont help you
[03:48] <DistantStar> Izinucs, Ok, thanks anyways. :)
[03:48] <avi_> Micheal`, Oh no?
[03:48] <latagore> sfears: I checked the directory; it's empty
[03:48] <latagore> sfears: I mean the file is not there; wtf am I saying
[03:48] <adante> Jordan_U: thanks... any idea if it is possible to disable it, not remove ?
[03:48] <Izinucs> theyranos: simple is best :)
[03:48] <theyranos> DistantStar: Have you already ruled out something locking your sound devices? sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[03:48] <Micheal`> avi_, well if you clone the whole drive and them reinstall the whole system are you just going to copy parts over?
[03:48] <i_is_broke> latagore, did you use the alternate disk to load ubuntu on your laptop?
[03:48] <sfears> alright latagore, does anyone know how to create a generic vesa xorg.conf file if "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" doesn't work?
[03:49] <Micheal`> avi_, and if you restore the clone well you gain nothing from reinstalling
[03:49] <Izinucs> adante: I realize that.. however I think he was mixing gnome with x.. if gnome doesn't load or hangs X may still be running.
[03:50] <DistantStar> theyranos, They are all controled by pulseaudio, if that's what you're asking.
[03:50] <latagore> i_is_broke:  I installed it onto my hard drive and then booted
[03:50] <avi_> Micheal`, No I don't intend to like "drag" the files over. I am hoping for a system where I can click "backup/clone" in my current install of Lucid, then, after i've wiped the HD and set up the partiton map as I like, install vanilla lucid to the partition i've assigned for it, and simply hit "restore" and walk away. Then I'll come back and my system will be *exactly* as I left it.
[03:50] <avi_> Micheal`, Yes, I should've mentioned that, the reason I'm reinstalling is not about Lucid.. it's actually about OS X.
[03:51] <avi_> Micheal`, But sadly I can't just reinstall the OS X partiton, because OS X
[03:51] <Micheal`> freebsd gotcha
[03:51] <nimbiotics> i downloaded a file with extension .bundle How do I install this package?
[03:51] <avi_> Micheal`, 's restore CD crashes when it has to deal with ext4 cds.
[03:51] <Micheal`> thats right
[03:51] <latagore> sfears: I'll google it
[03:51] <adante> Izinucs: the person who asked was me - and x isn't running. I want to disable it so the next time i run gnome-session in my X session it does not try to start compiz (and hopefully no longer crashes)
[03:52] <Izinucs> avi_: simply backing up /home will retain most if not all of your settings.. then the aptitude line to clone the packages that are installed should do it..
[03:52] <Micheal`> avi_, are you looking to duel boot?
[03:52] <theyranos> DistantStar: unfortunately I'm not familiar with pulseaudio, so I'm out of my league. Sorry
[03:52] <soreau> adante: Jordan_U has the best probable solution with 'sudo apt-get remove compiz'
[03:52] <avi_> Izinucs, It probably will. Wait a sec I need to explain my situation more to the both of you.
[03:53] <Izinucs> adante: then uninstall compiz..
[03:53] <Baxnie> i'm trying to connect using ssh, but after connect, server instantly closes connection
[03:53] <theyranos> DistantStar: May want to try to kill pulseaudio and test with aplay again just to be sure that's not it, if that's what came up from that fuser command.
[03:53] <Izinucs> avi_: I think I got it..
[03:53] <adante> soreau, Izinucs, Jordan_U : ok, thanks guys
[03:53] <sfears> latagore: "apt-cache search envy" does a program envyng-qt still exist?
[03:53] <Izinucs> avi_: you want to save your programs and settings for a future reinstall with manual partitioning..
[03:54] <latagore> sfears: Nothing
[03:54] <Micheal`> ok the wife and her boobies call me later yall
[03:54] <j3rg> yo
[03:54] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: Are you connecting locally?
[03:54] <j3rg> wats up everyone
[03:54] <j3rg> one small question
[03:54] <j3rg> nothing hard
[03:54] <greezmunkey> j3rg: put it on one line, and ask away. :)
[03:55] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: i've a dedicated server, i'm connecting to it, it was normal then a friend told me to use 'screen', after it a could not connect again
[03:55] <DistantStar> theyranos, No, it doesn't seem to be it. I must say, I'm confused.
[03:55] <Jordan_U> adante: There is also a gconf key for setting the default window manager.
[03:55] <j3rg> what's the term when one computer gives another computer internet access?
[03:55] <Baxnie> donno if screen has any relation
[03:55] <j3rg> I know it involves port forwarding
[03:55] <greezmunkey> j3rg: connection sharing
[03:55] <avi_> Micheal`, Izinucs, Okay. I currently have a tripleboot system that works fine mostly, on my mac. (Win7, Lucid, latest OS X). Except my OS X partition needs to be reinstalled. To do that, because of complications/limitations with Apple's reinstall functions, I need to basically WIPE the whole drive and then set up 3 partitions.. then install OS X+Win7+Lucid. So naturally there's nothing wrong with my Win7 and Lucid partitions, hence my desi
[03:55] <avi_> re to retain their EXACT state. I'm explaining this because i want to make sure that it's understood that I have NO need to resintall the Ubuntu base system at all..
[03:55] <Agu10> hey
[03:55] <j3rg> greezmunkey: thanks alot
[03:56] <j3rg> of to google it in Ubuntu
[03:56] <Agu10> if I want to make a virtualbox machine to run without having to install virtualbox on ubuntu, what can I do?
[03:56] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: The connection drops as soon as it gets connected, or you just see a blank screen?
[03:56] <Izinucs> avi_: how many partitions are you currently using for your ubuntu install?
[03:56] <Agu10> is there any virtualbox portable for ubuntu?
[03:56] <pseudomorph> can anyone tell me how to disable an addon via about:config? updates seem to have killed access to menu's
[03:56] <Agu10> or is there any offline installer so I don't need internet?
[03:56] <sfears> latagore: i see something else here, but i'm hesitant to try becuase i don't want to leave your recovery gui useless, but if you kill your xserver session, in ubuntu "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" then run "X -reconfigure" you may get to manually setup your xorg.  Just make sure you choose VESA drivers
[03:56] <pLr> Agu10, no. You must install virtualbox to run it
[03:56] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: after it connects, i get a message talking about last login, etc and then it closes connection
[03:57] <Baxnie> strangest thing is that i just connected with filezilla with no problem
[03:57] <avi_> Izinucs, Well I'm pretty sure just an ext4 partition for my system and a swap file. I installed Ubuntu to use the remaining free space.. so whatever sort of partition scheme that would be is what I've got.
[03:57] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: ok. Can you access the target machine via console, to run // sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog // so you can troubleshoot further??
[03:57] <latagore> sfears: That's okay, I can always boot from USB (hopefully there is a command line)
[03:58] <sfears> latagore: see here http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/04/24/howto-resolve-x-server-video-driver-errorscrashes-in-debian-linux/
[03:58] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: didnt understand ur point
[03:58] <Baxnie> i cant acess it via terminal cause i disconnects as soon it connects
[03:58] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: do you have keyboard access to the target machine?
[03:58] <theyranos> DistantStar: Okay, when you start alsamixer, what do you get for Card and Chip? Does that correspond to your sound card or the new card you installed?
[03:58] <Baxnie> no
[03:58] <Izinucs> avi_: ok.. if you let the installer do it's own thing then you have 2.. one that is everything but swap and then a swap partition.. if clonezilla will do ext4 then that's the way to go. the answer to that though is a bit nebulous
[03:58] <theyranos> \me is still guessing
[03:59] <latagore> sfears: I can't seem to stop it
[03:59] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: what command are you issuing to access the box? (dummy up the actual IP address)
[03:59] <sfears> you need to be in a tty screen, you can't kill X if your using it
[03:59] <negers> any nederlanders here?
[03:59] <Izinucs> avi_: another way is by using dd but I have no experience with it.
[03:59] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: ssh root@ip
[03:59] <Baxnie> then i enter password
[04:00] <DistantStar> theyranos, According to pavucontrol, ALSA plugin-in reads [npviewer.bin]. Alsamixer shows the on board sound card being read and active and maxed out.
[04:00] <avi_>  Izinucs, from what i've found out, Partimage does _not_ currently support ext4, while dd (i think that's more trouble than it's worth) and CloneZilla support ext4.
[04:00] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: And, this is a Ubuntu box? Do you have another account that has remote access permissions?
[04:00] <theyranos> DistantStar: aaaand I'm out of ideas.
[04:00] <sfears> dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/place/of/file/filename.iso
[04:00] <iShanwnW> Hey is there a way to add a panel to second monitor in 10.04?
[04:00] <theyranos> sorry
[04:00] <latagore> sfears: I'm using the recovery console; it says no service found, so I think I'll be able to modify it
[04:00] <DistantStar> theyranos, That's fine. Thanks for your help. :)
[04:00] <Izinucs> avi_: ah there you go.. sfears gave you the line above
[04:01] <sfears> latagore: try "sudo X -reconfigure"
[04:01] <TiK> sfears: what about bootable iso's?
[04:01] <kerdal> what do i use to put video files on my IPOD
[04:01] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: its a debian box but i'm using ubuntu, and yesterday everything was going fine
[04:01] <Baxnie> i noticed the issue after entering the screen command
[04:01] <avi_> Izinucs, Okay. So let me get this straight. Now that you know what I'm looking to do.. I right now go and install clonezilla and tell it to clone my whole HD to some file/folder on an external HD I've got. Then once I set up the other OS's as I like, I install Lucid from a normal install CD, install CloneZIlla, and then hit "restore" or something?
[04:01] <sfears> dd makes an exact copy.. so if the iso is bootable DD will make a bootable copy
[04:02] <latagore> sfears: I did -configure and my console terminated
[04:02] <Maahes> anyone know what kernel module besides psmouse drives the synaptic driver?
[04:02] <holmser> how do I allow my new server to access the mysql database on another network machine?
[04:02] <iShanwnW> How can I add a panel in 10.04?
[04:02] <avi_> Izinucs, sfears, I think my problem is that I don't know how to go about "restoring" a partiton from a .iso I make of it. So let's say I used dd to save my current machine's HD to an ext HD, how can I go about restoring that?
[04:02] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: wierd. Have you ever tested logging into the box multiple times before you installed screen?
[04:02] <red2kic> iShanwnW: Right-click on an existing panel and "Add New Panel"
[04:02] <holmser> I have already edited the config files so it is listening, but I am still getting denied
[04:02] <mibber> hi guys can someone help plz, i can't run icons from my desktop
[04:03] <mibber> i've tried so many things but i can't figure this out
[04:03] <avi_> !details | mibber
[04:03] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: I mean concurrent logins that is...
[04:03] <sfears> dd (disk dump) if (input file) of (output file)  dd if=/place/of/file/filename.iso of=/dev/hda1
[04:03] <latagore> sfears: It's not responding to my power button either; usually it would start turning off by bow
[04:03] <iShanwnW> red2kic: non-exsistant
[04:03] <red2kic> !resetpanel | iShanwnW
[04:03] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: oh!!!
[04:03] <Baxnie> the screen command keeps a connection alive right?
[04:03] <sfears> not sure what that would be latagore
[04:03] <latagore> sfears: I forced it to turn off
[04:03] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: usually :)
[04:03] <Sonja> how do i make a folder password-protected so only i can access it?
[04:04] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: how do i get this screen back?
[04:04] <iShanwnW> red2kic: I want to add a pannel to my second monitor.
[04:04] <mibber> I have version 10.04 inside vmware, i've been debugging this all day, the problem is with my desktop, when i double click an icon nothing happens, it doesn't run the program, mouse cursor goes busy, then goes back to normal and nothing happens
[04:04] <kerdal> looking for video to ipod
[04:04] <Izinucs> avi_: ah.. but you said earlier that you weren't going to reinstall... clonezilla will put back all data in the same partition.. no choice.. so if you don't want to reinstall then clonezilla will do it for you maintaining the same partitioning sceme you had previously.. if you want to separate /home to its own partition after the restore you can do that anytime.
[04:04] <red2kic> iShanwnW: Hold ALT and drag the panel to second monitor.
[04:04] <xangua> iShanwnW: right clic>new panel
[04:04] <sfears> avi_: there may be some permission issues
[04:04] <latagore> sfears: I rebooted the console
[04:04] <avi_> sfears, Wait wait. So I guess I'd need to boot into a LiveCD to do that, right? Because I can't restore to the partition that I'm running dd from..
[04:04] <sfears> avi_: you may need to use su in order to copy some of the files at which point may cause issues when you put them back becuase you wil be a different user
[04:04] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: you have to issue the ssh command in such a way as to reconnect to that session. I'd have to look that up, but I'm sure there are others here who can give that up off the top of their heads.
[04:04] <Izinucs> avi_: clonezilla has it's own live cd
[04:05] <iShanwnW> red2kic: xangua: nope still don't get another panel or move exsisting one
[04:05] <latagore> sfears: I have one question; if someone is trying to use my computer, and they use root; they don't even need to put in a password O_o
[04:05] <sfears> i would say that's correct avi_
[04:05] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: i'll restart computer :P thanks for ur help
[04:05] <velociostrich> I've got a bit of a hardware conundrum that I'm struggling to solve: I'm building a machine for someone and I can't get the darn thing to even light up the display. It's got an ASUS M4N75TD motherboard that has a "DRAM" LED that (I think) is supposed to show when the RAM isn't quite right, and it lights up with both sticks of (matched) DDR3 are in; it blinks when only one is in. The manual is kinda vague; anyone know what the LED sho
[04:05] <velociostrich> uld be doing or where I could find out, and if there's some way of pinpointing whats wrong?
[04:05] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: btw... uh, ok.
[04:05] <sfears> latagore: recovery modes do boot into root
[04:05] <sfears> i think
[04:06] <velociostrich> sfears: they give you the option of dropping to a root shell or w/e
[04:06] <Izinucs> avi_: the other issue you'll have to deal with is grub.. it most likely will have to be reinstalled.
[04:06] <avi_> Izinucs, Ahhh. I see. That makes much sense. So to "save" the current partiton i need to boot from the CD... then, once I need to restore, I boot to the same CD again, and point it in the right direction of where to load/save from/to.. correct?
[04:06] <latagore> sfears: So what would stop someone from accessing my computer and deleting everything
[04:06] <sfears> you need to remove the recovery mode lines from your grub file
[04:06] <Izinucs> avi_: basically.. the clonezilla cd will make use of the external usb drive to store the image.. and restore the image
[04:06] <avi_> Izinucs, I think i'll go with CloneZilla.. I think it is more suited for my purpose and makes things a bit easier.
[04:07] <latagore> sfears: Okay; I'll ask about that after I get this silly thing solved
[04:07] <sfears> avi_: i've had mixed results with the dd, i use it mostly for copying cds
[04:07] <avi_> Izinucs, Well that's exactly what I'm looking for then! Thanks a ton, I think i'll burn that CD and poke around with it before I make a commit.
[04:07] <sfears> and for low level formating drives
[04:07] <kerdal> looking help/assistance for video to ipod, rythmbox not acceptable.
[04:07] <order> my laptop doesnt connect to wifi after I upgraded to lucky lynx, both wifi and wired stopped working
[04:07] <sfears> sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1
[04:07] <latagore> sfears: It doesn't understand the option reconfigure
[04:07] <sfears> turns all bits to 0
[04:07] <avi_> sfears, As do I, I would've assumed that cloning/resoting a WHOLE drive with dd would cause a whole mess of problems.
[04:08]  * undifined hits sfears with a cluebat
[04:08] <Izinucs> avi_: you can use dd for partiitons too.
[04:08] <sfears> latagore: try X --reconfigure
[04:08] <latagore> sfears: I tried configure again and it stopped responding
[04:08] <negers> latagore: try X --reconfigure
[04:08] <negers> sfears: I tried configure again and it stopped responding
[04:09] <avi_> Izinucs, Right right. Well I think that i'm going to go with CloneZilla any how. Thanks very much!
[04:09] <negers> Izinucs, Right right. Well I think that i'm going to go with CloneZilla any how. Thanks very much!
[04:09] <avi_> Uhm... negers..
[04:09] <negers> Uhm... negers..
[04:09] <Izinucs> avi_: :) have fun
[04:09] <negers> avi_: :) have fun
[04:09] <latagore> Some annoying prick made it here
[04:09] <negers> Some annoying prick made it here
[04:09] <realcoolguy>  /quit
[04:09] <velociostrich> latagore: if you remove those lines, you can still access the recovery modes (and make it secure) by putting a password on your bios and disable booting from removable media, then when you want to use a recovery mode, log into the bios, re-enable booting from removable media, then use a live CD to chroot into the HD, edit the grub lines, and re-install grub so that they're visible, but that's only necessary if you're really paranoid.
[04:09] <velociostrich>  At that rate, you should put a padlock on your comp, too :)
[04:09] <Izinucs> !ops negers bot
[04:10] <avi_> Can we not kick him?
[04:10] <Izinucs> !ops | negers
[04:10] <negers>  /quit
[04:10] <pseudomorph> add-ons ruled out.
[04:10] <negers> latagore: if you remove those lines, you can still access the recovery modes (and make it secure) by putting a password on your bios and disable booting from removable media, then when you want to use a recovery mode, log into the bios, re-enable booting from removable media, then use a live CD to chroot into the HD, edit the grub lines, and re-install grub so that they're visible, but that's only necessary if you're really paranoid.
[04:10] <negers> HEIL HITLER
[04:10] <avi_> Oh dear.
[04:10] <Trunkton> no
[04:10] <pseudomorph> Anyone have any idea why firefox will not allow me access to menus/browsing history?
[04:10] <order> my laptop doesnt connect to wifi after I upgraded to lucky lynx, both wifi and wired stopped working
[04:10] <avi_> Can we ban his IP?
[04:10] <velociostrich> wtf is up with negers? he a bot or something?
[04:10] <latagore> velociostrich: I did that that already, thank you very much XD
[04:11] <red2kic> Nothing to see here. Move on.
[04:11] <velociostrich> latagore: the padlock? lol
[04:11] <sfears> well latagore i think your issue is with your xorg file, or lack of /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  you need to load a generic xorg.conf using vesa drivers, from there you can install functional ATI drivers to get good resolution and 3D rendering.  since your "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" doesn' t seem to work i'm not sure what your next step is, but figure out how to get your vesa drivers in your xorg.conf file
[04:11] <latagore> velociostrich: no disabling USB boot and putting a password on the bios
[04:11] <sfears> got to go... peace
[04:11] <latagore> velociostrich: Was planning to get a lock for it too
[04:11] <velociostrich> latagore: ohh lol
[04:12] <latagore> sfears: thanks for the help
[04:12] <latagore> Aw
[04:12] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: it do not work ! donno what to do anymore
[04:12] <velociostrich> latagore: not a bad idea in this day and age; that, or you could booby-trap it (jk)
[04:12] <Baxnie> i tought restarting would close ssh connection and then just work
[04:12] <latagore> That's one DAMN good idea
[04:13] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: Chack this: ssh -t user@machine.com screen -r, see if that format works.
[04:13] <Izinucs> Baxnie: can you log in with ssh <username>@IP ?  not with ssh root@IP
[04:13] <sunbeam> hey, guys
[04:13] <avi_> Izinucs, Wait one more thing.. I should download the "Ubuntu based one" rather than the "Debain based one", correct?
[04:13] <velociostrich> so... anyone know how to find out if my problems are with RAM or the motherboard or what...? is there some cheap way of getting accurate POST codes without a monitor?
[04:13] <simpleplan-> hi
[04:13] <Baxnie> Izinucs: i've no other user
[04:13] <Izinucs> avi_: doesn't matter..
[04:13] <latagore> velociostrich: I'll put a grenade at the case lid so you can't open it
[04:13] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: Chack this: ssh -t user@machine.com screen -r, see if that format works.
[04:13] <Izinucs> Baxnie: so when you setup the machine and created an account you called it root?
[04:14] <greezmunkey> Izinucs: debian target box...
[04:14] <ikar> Hey, how do i uninstall samba from comand-line?
[04:14] <GerbilSoft> velociostrich: you'd need something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Elston-Systems-Post-Card-Tester/dp/B000RXTKVA
[04:14] <Izinucs> greezmunkey: ah..
[04:14] <avi_> Izinucs, Ah okay. I just found a diff table and apparently the Ubuntu one just has some non-free compatibility, is a bit larger in size, and drops i486 support.. So ubuntu it is.
[04:14] <velociostrich> latagore: just hope the theif's family doesn't sue you (heh heh heh)
[04:14] <Baxnie> greezmunkey bash: screen: command not found
[04:14] <Baxnie> Connection to xxxxx closed.
[04:15] <velociostrich> GerbilSoft: I've seen one of those before in MCM's catalog, I was hoping that's not what it would take but I'm running out of options... ugh
[04:15] <heizmann> Good evening, everybody. A question concerning to the framebuffer using :)
[04:15] <greezmunkey> Baxnie: you will need keyboard access to do much more I'm afriad...
[04:15] <Izinucs> ikar: sudo apt-get install -purge samba
[04:15] <latagore> velociostrich: They can't sue me if the laptop is in pieces and the thief is in pieces as well ;]
[04:15] <Baxnie> greezmunkey: a friend can connect to ssh =x
[04:15] <Baxnie> i cant
[04:15] <kickAss> hi
[04:16] <avi_> !botsnack
[04:16] <velociostrich> latagore: I think we should stop before the NSA stops us... from stealing their ideas
[04:16] <ikar> Izinucs, ok, thanks :-)
[04:16] <SubCool> anyone familiar with x11vnc or VNC? I followeed karlrunge.com - but its not working...
[04:16] <latagore> velociostrich:  Wise advice.
[04:16] <Izinucs> greezmunkey: is Baxnie saying someone else can connect to the same machine but she can't?  could be the keys on her machine are corrupt.
[04:16] <heizmann> Is it possible, in a tty, to play a movie with mplayer for example, with a video playing at the top left corner, then during this time, working in the tty (on bottom)? :)
[04:17] <SubCool> well, it is working, but not properly
[04:17] <heizmann> (with using framebuffer ^^)
[04:17] <Baxnie> Izinucs: im 'he' :(
[04:17] <Baxnie> how can i reset rsa keys?
[04:17] <greezmunkey> Izinucs: Heh, donno. Baxnie maybe you can use your friends login to get in and troubleshoot further??
[04:17] <Izinucs> Baxnie: sorry :).. no offense..
[04:17] <SubCool> oh- nvm- my bad.. i installed KDE wrong i think-
[04:17] <velociostrich> heizman: interesting question... I'm the least qualified to answer but I'd think that if you had a screen session you might, if you can even play video with mplayer at the command line at all (can you...?)
[04:17] <SubCool> if nayone knows- PM me.
[04:18] <latagore> How can I edit a text file from command line>
[04:18] <kk9822> hi
 heizman: interesting question... I'm the least qualified to answer but I'd think that if you had a screen session you might, if you can even play video with mplayer at the command line at all (can you...?) <== not all understand :) (I'm french), but, perhaps by spitting the screen
[04:18] <theyranos> latagore: nano (text file path)
[04:18] <Izinucs> latagore: sudo nano <text file>.. or if it's in your /home just nano <text file>
[04:18] <heizmann> ?
[04:19] <kk9822> pl help me i want to update my ubuntu ulitmate edition
 ^^ splitting*
[04:19] <kk9822> but when i do the normal way it gives PG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/mai/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[04:19] <kk9822> how do i solve this
[04:19] <kk9822> pl help me
[04:19] <Izinucs> heizmann: you could try to run screen.  split the screen session and in the upper half run the video and the lower continue working from the bash prompt
[04:19] <velociostrich> heizmann: sorry, I didn't realize English wasn't your first language. I meant that you could try splitting the screen, but I don't know if that would work
[04:20] <heizmann> kk9822 :) just add the pub_key
[04:20] <kk9822> what is it
[04:20] <order> how do I instart wlan0, it showing now Network is down
[04:20] <kk9822> i mean pub key
[04:21] <heizmann> Izinucs but how to proceed? ^^I can split a vim-session, not a tty term =)
[04:21] <RQ-170> kk9822 ?
[04:21] <neil_d> I have a laptop connected via wi-fi :) .... I can mount a drive using mount via smbfs no problems... but when I got the the Places->Network menu item and click on the 'Windows Network' icon I get the error "Failed to retrieve share list from server" :(    any ideas what is wrong?
[04:21] <heizmann> kk9822 :) one moment, please, I'm searching the good command for you :)
[04:21]  * heizmann just moment... AFK :p
[04:21] <kk9822> thanks heizmann i love it
[04:22] <Izinucs> heizmann: sure you can :).. the screen utility will allow you to split a tty term
[04:22] <heizmann> Izinucs I'll see that next time =) thanks!
[04:23] <RQ-170> I know this is off topic but does anybody know any free pop accounts for security ? PKI gnupg, etc ?
[04:23] <Izinucs> heizmann: sure.. I do it occationally
[04:23] <heizmann> kk9822 baack !
[04:24] <luke-jr> RQ-170: who uses pop?
[04:24] <kk9822> any luck heizmann about my prob
[04:24] <RQ-170> for PGp what do you use IMAP ?
[04:24] <latagore> Does anyone know where I can get a generic xorg.conf file?
[04:25] <greezmunkey> latagore: I can paste one.
[04:25] <kk9822> how do i update in terminal
[04:26] <kk9822> pl give the command
[04:26] <latagore> greezmunkey: Would be appreciated
[04:26] <luke-jr> RQ-170: PGP just does encrypt/sign, it doesn't care what protocol or program you use
[04:26] <luke-jr> or service
[04:26] <heizmann> kk9822 just type in a term the command: $ gpg --recv-key 58403026387EE263 && gpg --export --armor 58403026387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[04:26] <order> how can I restart my wifi, the wlan0 interface is down
[04:26] <heizmann> kk9822 open a term, please :)
[04:27] <Izinucs> heizmann: http://wiki.xdroop.com/space/Linux/screen/Split+Screen
[04:27] <heizmann> Izinucs :) noted thanks
[04:27] <hammertime> Is it possible to prevent users from mounting certain drives? I have a FAT32 partition that I want to make unmountable from Ubuntu
[04:27] <RQ-170> If you are using IMAP its a mute point , Its not secure
[04:27] <luke-jr> RQ-170: … IMAP is plenty secure with SSL, and the point of PGP is that it doesn't need to be
[04:28] <greezmunkey> latagore: when you ran the xorg reconfig, did you look in your home directory for the output?
[04:28] <luke-jr> if the transports could be assumed to be secure, you wouldn't *need* PGP encryption
[04:28] <RQ-170> luke-jr: Your telling me pgp with gmail is secure i beg to differ
[04:28] <greezmunkey> latagore:  do a locate xorg.conf
[04:28] <SuperMiguel> if i have a ASCII text file that is compressed, is there a way to find out what kind of compression it has?
[04:28] <order12> hello, when I do ifconfig, it only shows lo, not wlan0 , how can I fix this please help
[04:28] <RQ-170> ROFL
[04:28] <RQ-170> k
[04:28] <kk9822> yes i did
[04:28] <heizmann> kk9822 :) the command is in two parts :). 1st: gpg --recv-key 58403026387EE263
[04:29] <kk9822> yes
[04:29] <kk9822> i did
[04:29] <kk9822> same way
[04:29] <latagore> greezmunkey: I haven't, I've been more concerned over the crashes it has been giving me
[04:29] <heizmann> kk9822 :) and 2nd: gpg --export --armor 58403026387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[04:29] <kk9822>  first i got end pgp public key block
[04:29] <Izinucs> heizmann: this one is better..http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#Regions
[04:29] <kk9822> next onegave ok
[04:29] <heizmann> kk9822 ^^ that's all! have fun. (don't forget the "-" at the end of the 2nd command :))
[04:30] <order12> hello
[04:30] <logyati>  /j #zimbra
[04:30] <qldvic217> Is it possible to prevent users from mounting certain drives? I have a FAT32 partition that I want to make unmountable from Ubuntu.
[04:31] <heizmann> Izinucs :-/ it's possible but I can't load the page wire firefox ><" !
[04:31] <order12> hello, when I do ifconfig, only lo shows up, doesnt show my wlan0, how can I fix this, I think the wifi interface is down
[04:31] <Izinucs> heizmann: wire firefox? not sure what that is...
[04:31] <latagore> greezmunkey: It doesn't have a file in my home directory
[04:31] <heizmann> kk9822 :p so, all is ok?
[04:32] <heizmann> Izinucs :-| I don't know...
[04:32] <greezmunkey> latagore: run: locate xorg.conf - see what you get back.
[04:32] <kk9822> pl give me what is the command for update in terminal hezzman
[04:32] <heizmann> Izinucs :-| it's the first time that it makes that...
[04:32] <heizmann> kk9822 sure : here the command: sudo apt-get update
[04:33] <kk9822> is it sudo apt update
[04:33] <heizmann> kk9822 it's: sudo apt-get update
[04:33] <latagore> greezmunkey: The first one /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d
[04:33] <EvilPhoenix> how do i restart x
[04:33] <qldvic217> order12: Have you had this problem before>
[04:33] <Izinucs> EvilPhoenix: sudo service gdm restart
 how do i restart x <== X-window ???
[04:34] <EvilPhoenix> thanks
[04:34] <order12> qldvic217, no, I think I am having this problem since today
[04:34] <EvilPhoenix> heizmann:  no the x server...
[04:34] <kk9822> : Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]
[04:34] <kk9822> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:34] <kk9822> hezmnn
[04:34] <EvilPhoenix> lemme try what Izinucs said
[04:34] <order12> qldvic217, please help
[04:34] <kk9822> pl help me out
[04:34] <xangua> kk9822: use lucid
[04:34] <heizmann> EvilPhoenix :) well, you have the answer by Izinucs ^^
[04:34] <kk9822> what is the command
[04:35] <kk9822> for using lucid pl
[04:35] <heizmann> kk9822 are you sure that your connexion is good?
[04:35] <kk9822> yes it is
[04:35] <kk9822> heizmann
[04:35] <qldvic217> order12: Was your wifi card supported out of the box or did you have to install a proprietary driver?
[04:35] <theyranos> anybody know offhand the command for getting the uid and gid that owns a particular pid?
[04:35] <kk9822> itis working
[04:35] <heizmann> kk9822 just try another once
[04:35] <kk9822> ok i will
[04:35] <order12> qldvic217, not sure how can I check ?
[04:35] <heizmann> kk9822 tell me what the result is :)
[04:36] <kk9822> no luck same thing repeats
[04:36] <greezmunkey> latagore: try this as a starting point then: http://pastebin.com/LkQM7RCc
[04:36] <heizmann> kk9822 ;) it's good, pretty good!
[04:36] <qldvic217> order12: Go into the administration tab and go into Hardware Drivers. Tell me if there's anything listed there
[04:36] <greezmunkey> latagore: you will likely have to make changes...
[04:37]  * heizmann has just been join another chan :)
[04:37] <order12> qldvic217, nothing, I had two there I remember, one for video cards and possibly one for wifi, why are they gone now, I upgraded to 10.04 is thats the reason ?
[04:37] <latagore> greezmunkey: This will be unpleasant. Is there any special program for editing them?
[04:37] <kk9822> should i restart the comp
[04:37] <SuperMiguel> if i have a ASCII text file that is compressed, is there a way to find out what kind of compression it has?
[04:38] <qldvic217> order12: Did you start experiencing the problem after you upgraded?
[04:38] <SubCool> Ok- this is a valid issue. I just install KDE via CLI- and now when i login KDE, all that happens is a a terminal window pops open
[04:38] <nocturnus> can someone help me boot ubuntu live from a 150G usb hardrive?
[04:38] <nocturnus> everythign is installed correctly with unetbootin, but it won't be recognized as a bootable device
[04:38] <nocturnus> i have no idea why
[04:38] <order12> qldvic217, yes first my mouse in the thinkpad stopped working, then I had some graphics problem, now this wifi
[04:38] <greezmunkey> latagore: nino, or gedit should be fine.
[04:38] <heizmann> kk9822 no, it's the good trick with linux, you needn't restart your computer :)
[04:38] <upgrdman> i use one of my NICs to share my network connection to my laptop. my laptop's domain name is not available on my router's DNS, unless i use wireless. any way to make domain names work through a shared NIC connection?
[04:39] <kk9822> wow
[04:39] <kk9822> that is great
[04:39] <heizmann> kk9822 another command: for a upgrade of your system, the command (magical) is: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[04:40] <order12> qldvic217, I dont have inernet access to the computer now, how can I fix this ?
[04:40] <qldvic217> order12, I'm afraid this is a problem when upgrading between versions, proprietary drivers often break. I'm not really that experienced in this field but your best bet is to try and reinstall the drivers.
[04:40] <timdrake> help on printing
[04:40] <heizmann> kk9822 generally, I use this: sudo su -c "apt-get update; apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade" && sudo -k
[04:40] <order12> qldvic217, how can i do that ?
[04:41] <nocturnus> someone please?
[04:41] <heizmann> Anybody for explaining to me the effect of prelink and preload? ^^
[04:42] <kk9822>  sudo su -c "apt-get update; apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade" && sudo -k
[04:42] <kk9822> this came with u r new command
[04:42] <kk9822> heizmann
[04:42] <order12> qldvic217, is there anyway I can downgrade the ubuntu ? how do I reinstall the drivers ?
[04:42] <qldvic217> order12: Are you sure there's nothing listed in the hardware drivers window? Try looking again after you've refreshed your sources and make sure you enable the restricted repository
  sudo su -c "apt-get update; apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade" && sudo -k <== that's upgrading all your system, except packages for languages support :)
[04:43] <heizmann> Anybody for explaining to me the effect of prelink and preload? ^^
[04:43] <adminewb> nocturnus, have you accessed the USB drive with any machine able to treat it as a boot device
[04:43] <kk9822> ok
[04:44] <kk9822> is it ok no prob for general working heizmann
[04:44] <nocturnus> adminewb: yes
[04:44] <heizmann> kk9822 ;) term is very powerful!
[04:44] <latagore> How can I create a new text file with command prompt?
[04:44] <Izinucs> heizmann: why not just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?  what's the difference?
[04:44] <adminewb> nocturnus, so it seems likely then that the culprit is the bios on the offending system no?
[04:44] <kk9822> i did not understand term is very powerful
[04:44] <pie_time> what's the command to find out how many watts my power supply is
[04:45] <heizmann> Izinucs: update : update the cache... upgrade : update programs ; dist-upgrade : update the system (kernel, and programs, and so on) ;)
[04:45] <nocturnus> adminewb: oh i read that wrong  --- i set it as 'active partition' from windows, which is supposed to be the 'boot' flag that fdisk shows
[04:45] <order12> qldvic217, yeah I did those nothing in the window still
[04:45] <adminewb> nocturnus, that is, regardless of whether your media can actually boot anything on a given host
[04:45] <Tempus_Fugit> how do i update clamtk for GUI and virus definitions??
[04:45] <nocturnus> adminewb: the reason im on this machine is because my main laptop broke, so now i have to install ubuntu on this one
[04:45] <Izinucs> heizmann: yes.. but does my line do the same as yours?
[04:46] <greezmunkey> latagore: "touch {filename}"
[04:46] <adminewb> nocturnus, oh i see, so you have limited access then to alternate test rigs
[04:46] <heizmann> Izinucs I prefer one "sudo" command :p !
[04:46] <nocturnus> adminewb: 'limited' would be fantasizing
[04:46] <qldvic217> order12: Is reinstalling out of the question?
[04:46] <Tempus_Fugit> anyone know how to update clamtk antivirus???
[04:47] <SubCool> anyone? CLI prompt only after login?!
[04:47] <order12> qldvic217, what should I re-install to ? I need to find an older version ?
[04:47] <SubCool> i just spent the last few hours getting it to this point-
[04:47] <adminewb> nocturnus, maybe your diagnostic ideas are better than mine, but it seems hard to isolate bootability issues without access to other hosts
[04:48] <nocturnus> adminewb: i know the laptop is USB bootable because it boots my 8G usb stick
[04:48] <heizmann> kk9822 You can control your softwares very finely
[04:48] <nocturnus> adminewb: and people have reported mjy model laptop being able to work with usb hard-drives
[04:48] <adminewb> nocturnus, ok then, so your BIOS is already enabled however it needs to be for USB media to boot the system
[04:49] <shcherbak> Izinucs: to make file - touch name_of_file , u do not need upgrade b4 dist-uprgade
[04:49] <heizmann> Izinucs perhaps you know what is exactly "preload" and "prelink"??? :-|
[04:49] <nocturnus> adminewb: what?
[04:49] <Izinucs> shcherbak: that wasn't for me
[04:49] <adminewb> nocturnus, is it possible your BIOS boot menu has provided you an option to boot USB, while effectively disguising that option as such?
[04:49] <pie_time> what's the command to find out how many watts my power supply is
[04:49] <SubCool> ok- then help me on how to google it!?
[04:50] <nocturnus> adminewb: huh?
[04:50] <shcherbak> Izinucs: ups
[04:50] <timdrake> having trouble printing in spreadsheet
[04:50] <Izinucs> heizmann: sorry no good explaination..
[04:50] <nocturnus> adminewb: what are you talking about - i proved you usb booting works because i can do it with a pen drive
[04:50] <adminewb> nocturnus yes
[04:50] <timdrake> in epson lx 300
[04:50] <nocturnus> maybe the bios don't like booting hard-drives through the usb interface, though i've never herad of that
[04:50] <greezmunkey> SubCool: what are you looking for?
[04:50] <nocturnus> itcan't bios update
[04:50] <nocturnus> i*
[04:50] <nocturnus> can't
[04:50] <qldvic217> order12: I meant installing a fresh install over your existing one. Upgrade breaks things so thats what I normally do.
[04:51] <adminewb> nocturnus, my question had to do with screen presentation
[04:51] <Roasted_> Hey guys. I'm going to look into rsyncing 1 ubuntu box to another for backup purposes. What do I need to know to get started? I've used rsync heavily, but only with local drives. With networking it, I'm kind of lost.
[04:51] <nocturnus> adminewb: i press f12 and then select 'boot form usb'
[04:51] <SubCool> greezmunkey, i installed KDE via CLI on ubuntu 9.1,, after the computer boots and i login, - all that occurs is i get a Command prompt. - no desktop, nothing.
[04:51] <nocturnus> adminewb: then it fails, and i have to press the power-button, no error message given
[04:51] <adminewb> nocturnus, ok that's plain enough
[04:52] <SubCool> greezmunkey, well i get a background- thats it.
[04:52] <heizmann> another question :) Anybody knows a script which install all git component for the Compiz Fusion system??? :) an example of a such script can be downloaded from http://phatandfresh.free.fr/cfinstall.sh (it is in french, very interesting but non maintaining)
[04:52] <greezmunkey> SubCool: what kind of background?
[04:52] <nocturnus> adminewb: what now?
[04:52] <nocturnus> adminewb: should i kill myself?
[04:52] <heizmann> Izinucs :-/ bad news :-/
[04:52] <SubCool> greezmunkey, normal kde blue
[04:52] <adminewb> nocturnus, i gather from what you said that your USB disk is partitioned in the old fashioned MSDOS scheme, true?
[04:52] <order12> qldvic217, I am thinking installing 8.04 again
[04:52] <order12> that was the most stable
[04:53] <Izinucs> heizmann: as I remember prelink and preload were used to speed a system up but isn't necessary these days
[04:53] <greezmunkey> SubCool: can you do a ctrl+alt+F2 to get to a console prompt?
[04:53] <SubCool> greezmunkey, i think i forgot a package while installing KDE, but- i cant figure out which one.
[04:53] <SubCool> im already at a console prompt-
[04:54] <qldvic217> 10.04 is quite stable as a fresh install, plus its a LTS so you won't have to upgrade and still get updates for 3 years
[04:54] <SubCool> thats all that shows up- the blue background, and a console prompt. Thats it
[04:54] <heizmann> Izinucs :) okay... Personally, I do not see the difference before and after the installation of preload and prelink.
[04:54] <soreau> heizmann: It's just called compiz now, the 'fusion' part has been dropped. This is how to use the compiz build script for git:  sudo apt-get install git-core && git clone git://anongit.compiz.org/users/soreau/scripts && ./scripts/build_compiz++
[04:54] <greezmunkey> SubCool: Try typing startx
[04:54] <SubCool> greezmunkey, ya- that worked
[04:54] <adminewb> nocturnus, as in fdisk sets up as many as 4 primaries, or 3 primary + extended, etc
[04:54] <SubCool> greezmunkey, it brings me to gnome- well it does if i exit out of the kde, and then type startx
[04:54] <nocturnus> adminewb: what?
[04:54] <nocturnus> adminewb: its primary
[04:55] <order12> qldvic217, whats the difference between the normal and LTS version ? 8.04
[04:55] <nocturnus> adminewb: its partioned in 10G block fat32 starting at the first sector
[04:55] <heizmann> soreau :) good news !!! :D !! All is in 1 script???
[04:55] <adminewb> do you have more partitions that just the 1 primary, which is marked as active/bootable?
[04:55] <SubCool> greezmunkey, in kde when i type that, it says user not authorized to run the X Server
[04:55] <soreau> heizmann: That repo has a set of scripts to do different things
[04:55] <greezmunkey> SubCool: ok, that's more info than I had to start with...I think you broke it.
[04:55] <soreau> heizmann: but yes, it builds all compiz components from git with that sscript
[04:56] <qldvic217> order12: LTS is supported for much longer. 8.04 was an LTS too, but that will only be supported for another year while 10.04 will be for three
[04:56] <SubCool> greezmunkey, lol- broke it? all i did was install kde!!!
[04:56] <adminewb> nocturnus, I follow on the fat32, but not clear what 10G block means
[04:56] <SubCool> greezmunkey, gnome works
[04:56] <greezmunkey> SubCool: how did you install KDE?
[04:56] <nocturnus> adminewb: 10G partition, starting at the 'front' of the drive, sector 0
[04:56] <SubCool> CLI
[04:56] <nocturnus> adminewb: the disk is 150G, but the partition is 10G
[04:56] <SubCool> sudo apt-get install kdm, kubuntu desktop kdecore
[04:56] <greezmunkey> SubCool: can you back it out, and try again?
[04:56] <SubCool> blah lah
[04:56] <order12> qldvic217, I dont want 10.04
[04:56] <heizmann> soreau :p hum, good!!! Very good! No problem with this script??? (updating, locales (e.g. french locales), special configurations of x11... ?
[04:56] <SubCool> idk- how do u do that?
[04:57] <order12> will wait another year for it to become stable
[04:57] <adminewb> nocturnus, so then you have some 140Gb free on disk, undedicated to any partition
[04:57] <order12> I think its eating up my system
[04:57] <soreau> heizmann: If it fails in any way, it should guide you to the compiz forums or the compiz channels here on irc
[04:58] <nocturnus> adminewb: yes, but its at the end
[04:58] <bsmith093> Is there a definitive list of dvd ready codecs for a video file, so i dont have to waste time transcoding it
[04:58] <nocturnus> adminewb: and its not partiition, so it wouldnt attempt to boot it
[04:58] <adminewb> nocturnus, I may be mistaken on this, but it seems ill advised to start a FAT32 partition at sector 0, which is the boot sector
[04:58] <samoangunner> HI need some help
[04:58] <greezmunkey> SubCool: sudo apt-get remove -purge ... ... ...
[04:59] <nocturnus> adminewb: no its okay, the partitioner reserved space for the MBR
[04:59] <heizmann> soreau :) thanks!... but before to exec the command ./scripts/build_compiz++ may I uninstall my actual (git)compiz? :)
[04:59] <SubCool> oh my- lol
[04:59] <soreau> heizmann: But there is no special configuration.. if compiz 0.8 is already working for you, this should install compiz 0.9 into a nonstandard prefix, leaving your 0.8 install in tact
[04:59] <samoangunner> anyone having problems with the desktop crashing.
[04:59] <SubCool> ok
[04:59] <bsmith093> for example this: DivX MS-MPEG-4 Version 3 is what my file says under video codec and the audio is mp3
[04:59] <adminewb> nocturnus so then your FAT32 starts at the next cylinder boundary or some such
[04:59] <NeverCast> Hey question, What's up with the naming of so libraries ?
[04:59] <heizmann> soreau :) ok... my actual compiz is installed on /usr/local
[04:59] <soreau> heizmann: You can do whatever you want but the script should be able to install and run regardless what ever else you have installed
[04:59] <samoangunner> when it happens I can still move the mouse and thing more.
[04:59] <nocturnus> adminewb: yes, probably
[05:00] <samoangunner> I cant even reboot
[05:00] <soreau> heizmann: The script default it /opt/compiz++ but you can change the PREFIX in the script if you like
[05:00] <adonis> hello can anyone help me with VMware player and how to resize the VM window???
[05:00] <heizmann> soreau :) but if is intalled on /usr/local ??? no problem wih that? Actually, I'm using the smo-script
[05:00] <NeverCast> in /usr/lib there are libraries, <somename>.so, but they have like version numbers appended to them? Why? and is there a way I can just keep the latest version or something? Because I'm having to go change config files with all these names.
[05:00] <samoangunner> an error comes up when I try reboot
[05:00] <adminewb> nocturnus in that case the question comes up about how grub2(?) may have set up your bootability
[05:00] <samoangunner> an I/O error
[05:00] <heizmann> soreau (if you know what is it, of course ^^)
[05:00] <soreau> heizmann: you shouldn't have a problem other than having to setup ccsm after everything is installed
[05:00] <Proxhotdog> hi
[05:01] <nocturnus> adminewb: unetbootin uses grub1
[05:01] <travis> quit
[05:01] <travis> exit
[05:01] <nocturnus> adminewb: actually there is no boot manager
[05:01] <Proxhotdog> does anyone know why when i tried to boot with live cd, it said i8042.c: No controller found
[05:01] <heizmann> soreau :) I backup my datas, and let's go =)
[05:01] <adminewb> nocturnus, hmm haven't dealt with grub legacy for a long time
[05:01] <samoangunner> I have reloaded many times and still the same
[05:01] <nocturnus> adminewb: there is no boot manager since there's only one partition
[05:01] <adonis> anyone know how to get VMware player to run full screen when running ubuntu????
[05:01] <adminewb> nocturnus not familiar either with netbootin
[05:01] <soreau> heizmann: Great, let me know if you have any trouble with it, in #compiz
[05:01] <pie_time> what's the command to find out how many watts my power supply is
[05:01] <nocturnus> adminewb: unetbootin is the official way to install this distro!
[05:02] <SubCool> greezmunkey, idk- doesnt look promising- that would take out my xorg, and xserver-org
[05:02] <samoangunner> I also have it running on 3 other computer and all have the same problem
[05:02] <samoangunner> please help
[05:02] <adminewb> nocturnus that was not my impression
[05:02] <heizmann> soreau ;) okay... bitchx is my friend in a tty, if all crash lol
[05:02] <greezmunkey> SubCool: you are right, that would be a pain...
[05:02] <adonis> hello!
[05:03] <adminewb> nocturnus can't imagine how you can boot lucid without grub2, when you at least need to be able to choose a certain kernel?
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[05:03] <SubCool> greezmunkey, im logging into gnome now- so .. its something stupid. If its anything, the KDE splash never occurs... the console pops up when the splash should
[05:03] <fred2040> @Adonis, VMWare have an utility...  http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/new_guest_tools_ws.html
[05:03] <nocturnus> adminewb: because the bios is able to boot a device from reading the MBR, installing a partiiton manager installs it to the MBR
[05:03] <tracy69> how are u <adonis>
[05:03] <greezmunkey> SubCool: the best thing you can do then is to try to start kde, and then check your logs. Maybe you'll get lucky and find what the system is missing. You can backtrack it from there.
[05:03] <SubCool> im missing something stupid- which is sad because im looking at a lot of tutorials, and they all say the same thing
[05:03] <nocturnus> so instead of seeing "grub2" in mbr, it will see "partition begins at space 123"
[05:04] <heizmann> soreau so... it's time to go (continue my encoding with x264 ^^)... and test your script
[05:04] <adonis> im good thanks how are you
[05:04] <Tempus_Fugit> does anyone know how to update the AV Engine in clamtk antivirus
[05:04] <SubCool> good idea- where is that log? /var/log ....
[05:04] <SubCool> ???
[05:04] <adminewb> nocturnus ok
[05:04] <tracy69> tired a bit <adonis>
[05:04] <adonis> im new to ubuntu this is first time i logged onto IRC thru it :D
[05:05] <Proxhotdog> congraz
[05:05] <adminewb> nocturnus so you have no choice at boot time which kernel it loads for you
[05:05] <Tempus_Fugit> adonis: Once you go Ubuntu you wont go back to windows
[05:05] <SubCool> greezmunkey, IT WORKS!!!
[05:05] <greezmunkey> ok, good. What did you do?
[05:05] <SubCool> i didnt do anything!!! lol
 does anyone know how to update the AV Engine in clamtk antivirus <[05:05] <DistantStar> theyranos, I found the solution. It was completely stupid that I'm embarrassed to say. The stereo cable was connected though to my motherboard. :P
[05:05] <nocturnus> adminewb: yes ... but since there's only one it should work
[05:06] <greezmunkey> SubCool: you threatened to remove it...
[05:06] <SubCool> tried to reinstall a couple things, logged out- logged into gnome, logged out- logged into kde
[05:06] <adminewb> nocturnus fair enough
[05:06] <adonis> i hope so! Im actually running back tracker 4 atm.. but just waiting for the month to end so i can download ubuntu!
[05:06] <theyranos> DistantStar: If you think that's stupid, then we're all morons. Glad you figured it out :-)
[05:06] <SubCool> WOOHOOO
[05:06] <Tempus_Fugit> heizmann: why do i need to remove my firewall??
[05:06] <adminewb> nocturnus the burden in that case for making a bootable device is with the tool you used partitioning it, to lay down a workable MBR for linux
[05:07] <mitermayer> teste
[05:07] <SubCool> greezmunkey, THANKS!!!!
[05:07] <greezmunkey> SubCool: bookmark this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=601848
[05:07] <adminewb> nocturnus and sounds as if you believe that grub legacy was not a factor there either?
[05:07] <heizmann> Tempus_Fugit :) to open several ports I suppose... I'm not sure that it is useful
[05:08] <Tempus_Fugit> heizmann: why are you having a hard time hacking me???
[05:08] <greezmunkey> SubCool: this also: http://forum.soft32.com/linux/Novell-Enterprise-Desktop-blank-screen-KDE-update-ftopict434395.html
[05:08] <heizmann> Tempus_Fugit ><"!!!
[05:08] <SubCool> close-but not it.
[05:08] <meh3> hey guys, does a repo DVD exist?
[05:08] <greezmunkey> SubCool: I know - the first one is for future reference...
[05:08] <meh3> if i was away and had no access to interent for example
[05:09] <SubCool> thanks!!
[05:09] <meh3> and wanted to install something off the default repos
[05:09] <Tempus_Fugit> heizmann: well sorry for your troubles but i believe that is the purpose of a firewall is it not??
[05:09] <adonis> where is the best place to learn all of the commands to run ubuntu?? is there a site with shell commands?
[05:10] <th0r> adonis: check the documents available in synaptic, I think there is a bash reference
[05:10] <heizmann> Tempus_Fugit Sure, but I do not intend to hack you ...
[05:10] <adonis> synaptic?
[05:11] <th0r> adonis: in the System menu....the software repositories software
[05:11] <greezmunkey> SubCool: Additionally check out .xsession-errors in your home directory...
[05:11] <th0r> !synaptic
[05:12] <adonis> thanks :D
[05:13] <Geoffrey2> is there a website for setting ubuntu up to run on a PowerPC?
[05:14] <Geoffrey2> I tried google, but a lot of the results are several years old...
[05:14] <greezmunkey> laterz...
[05:15] <adminewb> nocturnus, not meaning to waste your time or anything, but what I see of the unetbootin package description, it hardly sounds like the standard way of installing lucid
[05:16] <pfifo> Geoffrey2, im not entirely sure that ubuntu is built for ppc, i think its i386 and amd64 only
[05:16] <nocturnus> adminewb: no it's the way to install usb sticks
[05:16] <adonis> i downloaded ubuntu 10.04 and booted it off USB but it ran so so so slow i couldnt even move the mouse properly! should i d/l a diff version?
[05:16] <adminewb> nocturnus, actually for that you can use Startup Disk Creator utility
[05:16] <nocturnus> adminewb: in windows?
[05:17] <adminewb> nocturnus in Ubuntu, the System / Admin menu
[05:17] <adminewb> in gnome that is
[05:17] <nocturnus> adminewb: im in windows, why are yout elling me about ubuntu
[05:17] <nocturnus> are you even trying?
[05:17] <KE1HA> Geoffrey2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/powerpc/pr01.html
[05:17] <Tempus_Fugit> man we are getting a hella storm here in MO
[05:17] <adminewb> ok, just thought you were starting from a LiveCD basis or something
[05:17] <Tempus_Fugit> brb
[05:18] <nocturnus> adminewb: no man, i told you im in windows and i told you im using the equivalent of fdisk in windows
[05:20] <m1ck3y> nocturnus: what are you trying to do?
[05:20] <Coronade> ahhh, no one here but me...
[05:20] <Coronade> oh there you all are
[05:20] <m1ck3y> lol
[05:21] <nocturnus> m1ck3y: what do you mean? You've been here at least 15 minutes so which part are you confused about?
[05:21] <th0r> yeah...that attitude will get him lots of help
[05:21] <m1ck3y> The part where you specified what problem it was you were having. Check the logs, I seem to have just missed it.
[05:21] <m1ck3y> th0r: lol
[05:22] <S4ry> To burn Ubuntu iso ,  try Infra Recorder , ISO Recorder. or in Windows 7  just Right-click the iso and burn disc image'
[05:22] <sticky_> heh
[05:22] <m1ck3y> Infra works well for me, and if that's the problem you were having, you should have check the useful "How do I make a live cd" part of ubuntu's website.
[05:22] <sticky_> imgburn is the only way to go on windows
[05:22] <nabcore> I'm ssh'ed into a live booted 10.04.1 machine. I want to reboot it remotely with out it waiting to hit enter after ejecting the cd... any ideas on how to do this?
[05:23] <S4ry> To burn the iso to a USB flash stick .. Download the Universal USB Installer
[05:23] <S4ry> Yeah , imgburn as well
[05:23] <m1ck3y> And do a system check, I bat about 40% with usb sticks.. :(
[05:23] <nocturnus> th0r: are you useful?
[05:24] <m1ck3y> haha
[05:24] <adminewb> more useful than I of course :)
[05:24] <S4ry> burning to a CD , make sure the speed is set to 2-4x
[05:24] <m1ck3y> th0r: It's a test, he won't re-ask the question, and you have 30 seconds to get it right.
[05:24] <stunts513> ilovefairuz: hey you still here
[05:25] <daniel__> d
[05:26] <stunts513> anyone know what to do when u are configuring you display with xrandr and you get an error saying "error configruing crtc0"
[05:26] <adminewb> nocturnus, you may have better luck if you use a utility to mount your ISO image as a virtual optical drive
[05:26] <nocturnus> adminewb: that will not write the MBR, which is in fact the problem
[05:26] <nocturnus> i can see the files being placed correctly on the drive
[05:26] <adminewb> ok scratch that
[05:28] <adminewb> nocturnus so can you describe how unetbootin acquires control in your scenario?
[05:28] <H4ck3r> hello freinds
[05:28] <m1ck3y> Hello
[05:30] <Tanvir> hello, i am having problem with my pc.. the os is ubuntu and the pc is restarting after mouse and keyboard get freezed..
[05:30] <Tanvir> is it a problem of some virus?
[05:30] <nocturnus> adminewb: i specify which drive letter, and it does the rest
[05:31] <nocturnus> adminewb: i then reboot and expect to see ubuntu load screen but then i contemplate existance of my laptop and me
[05:31] <Coronade> one time
[05:31] <Coronade> in the 90's
[05:31] <Coronade> i had this virus, and it did nothing but show me porn.
[05:31] <Coronade> :D
[05:32] <adminewb> nocturnus presumably it's a conventional windows install, it handles your partitioning as part of its lucid install process... ?
[05:32] <m1ck3y> Coronade: Being 15 is not a virus :P
[05:32] <nocturnus> adminewb: no - but it can install succesfulyl without partitoning
[05:33] <Coronade> lies! fascism!
[05:33] <Coronade> oh well, i'm still downloading my "authentic" ubuntu..
[05:33] <Coronade> i'll keep you posted
[05:33] <Coronade> g'night
[05:33] <Geoffrey2> KE1HA, thanks for the info!
[05:34] <adminewb> nocturnus does your installer tell you when it's putting the grub legacy or other bootstrap on?
[05:34] <pfifo> Tanvir, yes you definatly have a virus
[05:34] <Tanvir> pfifo, how can I solve this problem?
[05:35] <infid> why does ubuntu.com say the 64-bit version of ubuntu is 'Not recommended for daily desktop usage'
[05:36] <infid> i've used it on my desktop for a year
[05:36] <adminewb> infid, that seems to be a source of much contention
[05:36] <Coronade> because with C and C++ developers get to mess with the size and location of memory.
[05:36] <Coronade> so when 64 bit comes along, oh .. the processor's word size is now 64 bits...
[05:37] <AlbertoP> infid: actually that's not the reason :)
[05:37] <Coronade> let's just port everything to 64 bit (including the assembly) and hope it just works absolutely fine :) ?
[05:37] <nocturnus> adminewb: no
[05:37] <Coronade> lol
[05:37] <IdleOne> !ot | Coronade
[05:37] <Coronade> ok ok
[05:37] <Coronade> g'night
[05:37] <AlbertoP> infid: basically because flash and some other plugins are not available out of the box and ubuntu does not provide an automated solution for it :)
[05:38] <infid> AlbertoP: so it doesnt mean that even 64-bit users should download the 32-bit version?
[05:38] <Coronade> flash is kind of important
[05:38] <pfifo> flash works fine in amd64 tho
[05:38] <AlbertoP> infid: well, if you want a complete, out of the box, experience sort of yes
[05:38] <Coronade> ok i get it, g'night sry. no more i promise but somsone (the open source community) should pwn flash entirely.
[05:38] <Coronade> g'night
[05:38] <noisewaterphd> i've got a working 64bit flash so if anyone needs it
[05:38] <AlbertoP> infid: or you get the 64 bit and work a bit on it
[05:38] <infid> pfifo: i dont know about 'fine' but it works :P
[05:39] <infid> Coronade: html5
[05:39] <AlbertoP> pfifo: yes I just meant there is no immediate way to get it ;-)
[05:39] <AlbertoP> infid: not sure about acroread, skype...
[05:39]  * AlbertoP is new to ubuntu too
[05:40] <pfifo> AlbertoP, what do you mean? you just download it and pop it in you plugin directory
[05:40] <adminewb> nocturnus, sorry just not familiar with the unetbootin animal; could you mount it and try running wubi.exe instead?
[05:40] <Tanvir> pfifo, do you know how can I remove this virus?
[05:40] <AlbertoP> pfifo: nope, you need a plugin wrapper, since it is built at 32 bit :)
[05:40] <pfifo> Tanvir, you dont have a virus, ubuntu will never get a virus.
[05:40] <AlbertoP> pfifo: I mean in apt however
[05:40] <zkriesse> pfifo: don't say that
[05:40] <noisewaterphd> I've got a pure 64 bit flash binary working great
[05:41] <pfifo> let me rephrase
[05:41] <Tanvir> pfifo, then what it is?
[05:41] <pfifo> Tanvir, you dont have a virus, ubuntu will never get a virus, unless I make a virus for ubuntu
[05:41] <zkriesse> pfifo: There is the remote possibility..but that exists on ANY operating system as nothing is ever truly secure 100%
[05:41] <seidos> Tanvir, did you download software other than from the repositories?
[05:41] <noisewaterphd> Tanvir: what is your issue
[05:41] <AlbertoP> hehe well pfifo that's optimistic ;-)
[05:41] <m1ck3y> Tanvir: Did you just install ubuntu? It's possible something went wrong during install
[05:42] <Tanvir> seidos, yes.
[05:42] <montather> hi guys
[05:42] <nocturnus> adminewb: no, it doesnt work for live usb sticks
[05:42] <montather> how are you ?
[05:42] <noisewaterphd> oh restart after mouse and keyboard freeze
[05:42] <montather> is any body here ?
[05:42] <noisewaterphd> no, NOT a virus
[05:42] <Tanvir> noisewaterphd yes
[05:42] <pfifo> Tanvir, we need to know what version of ubuntu your running, and can you be a little more specific on what happens
[05:42] <montather> i want to chat with some one
[05:42] <seidos> Tanvir, what did you download?
[05:42] <IdleOne> !ot | montather
[05:42] <Tanvir> seidos, i can't remember..
[05:42] <adminewb> nocturnus, so wubi will only install to a hard disk on ATA interface or the like?
[05:42] <montather> hi idle one
[05:43] <montather> how are you ?
[05:43] <nocturnus> adminewb: in fact wubi is just a WM
[05:43] <Tanvir> pfifo, its 10.04
[05:43] <adminewb> ok
[05:43] <noisewaterphd> montather: this is a support channel, not a chat 4 fun channel. Go to the offtopic channel if you don't need technical help
[05:43] <seidos> whois Tanvir
[05:44] <seidos> O_o
[05:44] <montather> okay noisewaterphd
[05:44] <montather> sorry , bye
[05:44] <shawnboy> How do I remove latest multi-boot installation without removing grub2?
[05:45] <Zombie> Hello.
[05:46] <Zombie> I have a Dellbuntu laptop and I have a Display issue with TV output.
[05:46] <Tanvir> i was just restarted again.. damn
[05:46] <latagore> Thanks for all the help I've gotten today! Good day everyone!
[05:46] <ljsoftnet> Zombie: does your TV output display TV signal?'
[05:46] <pfifo> Tanvir, dose it give any messages? at what point in the boot process dose it reboot?
[05:46] <noisewaterphd> Zombie: detail your problem a bit
[05:46] <xp_prg> does ubuntu work well as a live cd?
[05:46] <Tanvir> what kind of message pfifo ?
[05:47] <Zombie> Yes. I have extremely jittery video when playing videos in full screen.
[05:47] <S4ry> xp_prg, of course
[05:47] <Zombie> Its almost like the sync rate is wrong.
[05:47] <seidos> Tanvir, perhaps you should backup your data and reinstall ubuntu 10.04 if you believe you have been infected or hijacked?
[05:47] <ljsoftnet> Zombie: have u tried setting up Contrast?
[05:47] <pfifo> Tanvir, what point in the boot process dose it reboot?
[05:47] <pfifo> Tanvir, can you login?
[05:47] <Zombie> I am running Lucid on an Intel i945.
[05:47] <coldboot|home> Is there a decent music player that's not a bloated piece of crap like Amarok?
[05:47] <noisewaterphd> Zombie: sounds like a driver issue, what is your video card, and what driver are you using
[05:47] <Tanvir> pfifo, yes I can.
[05:48] <brandon420> coldboot|home, banshee
[05:48] <Zombie> Its the stock Intel Driver.
[05:48] <Tanvir> pfifo, and i am using it now
[05:48] <ljsoftnet> coldboot|home: have u tried VLC?
[05:48] <pfifo> Tanvir, so your mouse and keyboard work, they let you login, and then after you login what happens?
[05:48] <Zombie> Someone using an Nvidia card said he fixed it by setting XVideoSyncToDisplay = 0
[05:48] <Zombie> But.
[05:48] <coldboot|home> ljsoftnet: Not for music, is it well designed for music, or does it merely play music?
[05:49] <noisewaterphd> Zombie: This happens with any video you try in fullscreen?
[05:49] <brandon420> coldboot|home, banshee organizes everything really well, noting fancy, but has all the features that you would want, without using too many resources
[05:49] <Zombie> Yes.
[05:49] <Tanvir> pfifo, i can work fine.. everything.. after few minutes the mouse and keyboard got freezed, don't moves.. everything on the screen freezed and then it starts restarting
[05:49] <tucemiux> branden792, does banshee automatically find your mp3s like a virus?
[05:49] <ljsoftnet> coldboot|home: it has a very simple interface, it plays a huge amount of list of video, audio files and disks
[05:50] <brandon420> lol, no, but you can set it to scan folders.
[05:50] <Tanvir> seidos, that's my last choice :(
[05:50] <ljsoftnet> Zombie: but what?
[05:50] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: banshee is definitely slimmer than amarok, but still has nifty web integration. Rythmbox is great if you just want a straight up player
[05:50] <tucemiux> im installing banshee
[05:50] <noisewaterphd> I use banshee these days and like it fine
[05:50] <seidos> Tanvir, well, if you can't recall what you downloaded outside the repositories, how can you possibly verify you haven't been hijacked?  did your system ever work?
[05:50] <tucemiux> rhythmbox is awesome except it now automatically finds your music which acts like a virus and I hate that
[05:50] <noisewaterphd> amarok can perform a lot better if you use the mysql backend too
[05:50] <brandon420> thats all i use, im running a p4 with a gig of ram, and it does great, not to mention i have over 30gb of music
[05:51] <Lenin_Cat> can I change the frequency of my CPU?
[05:51] <Zombie> That solution was valid for Nvidia chips only.
[05:51] <noisewaterphd> tucemiux: you can turn that off in rythmbox though I think
[05:51] <Zombie> I use Intel chips.
[05:51] <ljsoftnet> Lenin_Cat: if your CPU supports changing CPU frequency, its possible
[05:51] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: I already have mpd for web integration, just want a player that's slim.
[05:52] <Lenin_Cat> LjL, intel atom?
[05:52] <Lenin_Cat> ljsoftnet*
[05:52] <pfifo> Tanvir, your problem is way too general to just solve, there are way to many things that could create this problem. THat leaves you with 2 choices, #1 reinstall ubuntu. #2 Go through your system and troubleshoot on your own and come back to us once you have a more (and highly detail) information regarding your problem
[05:52] <Tanvir> seidos, i downloaded skype only i think
[05:53] <noisewaterphd> Lenin_Cat: are you talking about changing your kernel timer frequency, or your actual cpu frequency?
[05:53] <ljsoftnet> Lenin_Cat: intel atom processors have a full ID, did u search for it?
[05:53] <matthewopersico> Hello. I have a laptop - AMD Sempron2800+  .755 GH and 640 RAM. Yeah it's old and XP takes forever to boot. Can I put Ubuntu on this with reasonable performance? Do I use Desktop or Netbook version. Thanks
[05:53] <shawnboy> I have an easy problem to solve. How do I remove latest installation without removing grub2?
[05:53] <ljsoftnet> Zombie: did you connect your TV cable to your laptop?
[05:54] <th0r> matthewopersico: you might consider xubuntu or lubuntu...better for old equipment
[05:54] <adminewb> nocturnus, if you get desperate enough, a poor solution may seem better than none, or trying BSD or something... care to entertain more on this?
[05:54] <xp_prg> can anyone recommend a good laptop that runs ubuntu, is a netbook good?
[05:54] <seidos> Tanvir, you think?  well you have to know, not just think.  reinstall if you suspect your system has been compromised.
[05:54] <noisewaterphd> matthewopersico: desktop version...but with your low ram, and I'm assuming shared memory integrated video, you should look into xubuntu instead
[05:55] <ljsoftnet> matthewopersico: i recommend the Netbook version, which meant for low powered devices
[05:55] <nocturnus> adminewb: what is that supposed to mean, entertain you?
[05:55] <avi_> xp_prg, I've got to go like NOW, but check out system76.com
[05:55] <adminewb> nocturnus no
[05:55] <avi_> xp_prg, Their new Starling is supposed to be great, and I've got their lemur ultrathin, which rocks.
[05:55] <Zombie> ljsoftnet: Yes.
[05:55] <deepu> wat is the major functions of kernal?
[05:56] <Zombie> It works when not in full screen.
[05:56] <ljsoftnet> xp_prg: i heard netbooks hardly play flash videos like youtube, is this true guys?
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[05:56] <FloodBot2> Slasher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <xp_prg> that is 100.00 more then a dell mini
[05:56] <noisewaterphd> xp_prg: I run ubuntu on my macbook pro, and it works awesome, literally all of the features are supported by ubuntu
[05:56] <ljsoftnet> Zombie: you can change the picture settings rigth, like Contrast, Brigthness???
[05:56] <Lenin_Cat> ljsoftnet, No, but im pritty sure its alllowed
[05:57] <Lenin_Cat> noisewaterphd, actual cpu
[05:57] <matthewopersico> Thanks for suggestions. Netbook seems the way to go.
[05:57] <adminewb> nocturnus entertain me, as in consider what I say, even though it's not been so gratifying for you thus far, when others here may have better tech chops here but haven't tended to your issue?
[05:57] <Zombie> Its like the X.org driver de-syncs laptop normal out and S-video out.
[05:57] <Zombie> Its not that.
[05:58] <Zombie> Its frame skipping and jitter.
[05:58] <Tanvir> pfifo, it makes a sound before freeze (sound that makes when we insert a disk in ROM).. and yes I have a problem with my DVD ROM's SATA port. sometimes it said (in windows) its not pluged in.. is this information has any value?
[05:58] <noisewaterphd> matthewopersico: i would say it depends more on your personal needs for the machine. I can't stand netbooks, but the ubuntu netbook version is really cool
[05:59] <deepu> wat is the major functions of "kernal"?
[05:59] <Tanvir> pfifo, thats all info I got
[05:59] <noisewaterphd> deepu: kernel?
[05:59] <ljsoftnet> Lenin_Cat: i recommend you to search the intel website if, your intel atom processor supports changing CPU frequency
[05:59] <deepu> mmmmm.ya
[05:59] <Lenin_Cat> ljsoftnet, I figured it out, it works. :)
[05:59] <nocturnus> adminewb: just forget it dude
[05:59] <GHH> I am downloading ISO file with this command wget -c but sometime show this error:Read error at byte 1235873408/2015311872 (Connection timed out). Retrying.
[05:59] <nocturnus> i'm not into poetry
[05:59] <Lenin_Cat> But thanks anyway.
[05:59] <ljsoftnet> Zombie: what TV software are u using?
[05:59] <pfifo> Tanvir, yes, that very well could be it, what type of harddrive did you install to?
[05:59] <adminewb> nocturnus suit yourself
[06:00] <GHH> is it problem?
[06:00] <nocturnus> why would you even tell me that?
[06:00] <noisewaterphd> deepu: odd question, but use google, explaining what a linux kernel is and does isn't really the purpose of this channel
[06:00] <Tanvir> pfifo, SATA
[06:00] <pfifo> Tanvir, internal or external?
[06:00] <Tanvir> pfifo, internal
[06:00] <deepu> mm....ok
[06:01] <Tanvir> pfifo, i am telling this, because if it made the error then reinstall will not be a solution for it (i think)
[06:02] <GHH> hep me any one?
[06:02] <pfifo> Tanvir, if your harddrive is coming unplugged for one reason or another that will imadetally freeze your system.
[06:02] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: I'm impressed, Rhythmbox looks like it's not crap.
[06:02] <S4ry> GHH, help us to help you ..
[06:02] <noisewaterphd> deepu: if you are doing homework, make sure you spell kernel right eh?
[06:02] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: good deal
[06:03] <Tanvir> pfifo, how can I fix that or check that?
[06:03] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: Nevermind, it doesn't properly scan the folder I told it to, and it's got a ton of import errors on the first attempt. It also seems to not have a file system browser.
[06:03] <coldboot|home> Looks like crap.
[06:03] <ljsoftnet> GHH: have u tried downloading from a web browser?
[06:04] <coldboot|home> I loved XMMS, it was the best.
[06:04] <Tanvir> pfifo, in widows the warning was "SATA Driver not pluged in" then the dvd rom disappeared
[06:04] <noisewaterphd> Tanvir: open computer, check that your sata cables are all plugged in properly, and that the cables themselves aren't bad
[06:04] <noisewaterphd> matthewopersico: awesome
[06:05] <pfifo> Tanvir, replace cables, RMA your drive, the issue is hardware, nothing in software can fix that
[06:05] <Tanvir> pfifo, okay. what is RMA?
[06:05] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: are you running gnome?
[06:06] <S4ry> coldboot|home, you need to install some plugin's first for Rhythmbox
[06:06] <pfifo> Tanvir, RMA means to send the drive back and get a replacement or your money back
[06:06] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: look into ario
[06:06] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: and goggles
[06:06] <th0r> coldboot|home: the old xmms is repackaged as audacious now
[06:06] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: Ario is a front-end to mpd.
[06:06] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: maybe those will behave better for you
[06:07] <Tanvir> pfifo, okay. thanks.
[06:07] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: ya
[06:07] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: is that a problem?
[06:07] <coldboot|home> I already have Ario, it's alright for an mpd front-end. But I want something local that has more features.
[06:07] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: see if you like goggles
[06:08] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: mpd front-ends tend to not have many features.
[06:08] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: Okay, thanks.
[06:08] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: Amarok has lots of features, but it seems to have been written by idiots, because it barely performs.
[06:08] <pfifo> i like amarok
[06:08] <S4ry> coldboot|home, how about Enna ..
[06:09] <coldboot|home> pfifo: It was better before Amarok 2 came out. Now it's a bloated POS.
[06:10] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: ya, amarok sucks in performance. But if you like it otherwise, it might be worth trying out the mysql backend for it, it does speed it up substantially
[06:10] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: and banshee is good if you haven't already tried it
[06:10] <coldboot|home> There shouldn't be any reason for it to need MySQL...
[06:10] <pfifo> the new version dose have too much stuff, but the basics are all i use
[06:10] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: i have never used goggles, but I have always wanted to, it looks cool. Might be just what you are after
[06:11] <noisewaterphd> coldboot|home: agreed
[06:11] <Meshezabeel> does gparted or any other partition manager come with the live cd?
[06:11] <coldboot|home> noisewaterphd: Where is goggles? It's not in the apt-cache at all.
[06:12] <noisewaterphd> http://code.google.com/p/gogglesmm/
[06:12] <S4ry> How about .. Moovida Media Center ..
[06:12] <frobisher> Meshezabeel ,gparted is a live cd
[06:13] <coldboot|home> S4ry: Enna's way too slow, all those stupid transitions feels like using an iPod. Looks more like a TV interface, with no option to fullscreen.
[06:14] <coldboot|home> Holy shit almost every music player for Linux is a complete piece of crap.
[06:14] <hart> lol
[06:14] <hart> agreed
[06:14] <meh3> hey guys, can someone help me with ubuntu server network problem? it gives me "Host desitination unreachable" when i try to ping my router or any device on the network
[06:14] <meh3> any suggestions?
[06:14] <coldboot|home> There's like 400 morons out there each trying to make their own, and eventually it gets bloated.
[06:14] <sticky_> coldboot|home, Have you tried audaicous?
[06:14] <coldboot|home> They all have showstopper bugs in them that you can find in two seconds.
[06:14] <sticky_> or however it's spelled
[06:15] <coldboot|home> sticky_: Yeah, when you click+drag move the Audacious window around, it's extremely laggy. Disqualified.
[06:15] <hart> where in the world am i?
[06:15] <noisewaterphd> meh3: did you plug it in to the network and configure it properly?
[06:15] <coldboot|home> The original XMMS was much better, but clearly some idiot messed it up.
[06:15] <sticky_> How about Songbird?
[06:15] <hart> i downloaded Xchat but GNOME version
[06:15] <coldboot|home> sticky_: I think I tried that a while ago, I remember it not being total crap.
[06:15] <noisewaterphd> songbird had so much potential, but it sucks
[06:15] <hart> is songbird ok for apple devices?
[06:15] <meh3> noisewaterphd, it is plugged in yes, and i think its configured properly
[06:16] <noisewaterphd> meh3: is it plugged into the ethernet port that you configured?
[06:16] <coldboot|home> sticky_: Songbird's website doesn't seem to have a Linux version.
[06:16] <sticky_> They must have done away with it =(
[06:16] <noisewaterphd> songbird is worse than amarok
[06:16] <coldboot|home> Yeah they dropped Linux support.
[06:16] <sticky_> It used to support the big 3, linux, windows, osx
[06:16] <noisewaterphd> or was, apparently
[06:17] <Guest25070> hi there. I am trying to chroot into my system thats not booting via live cd. However update-grub isn't available...any help?
[06:18] <meh3> noisewaterphd, yes, it is plugged in.. i forgot to mention that this is a virtual machine
[06:18] <noisewaterphd> meh3: is your router configured to allow pings
[06:18] <noisewaterphd> meh3: so can the host OS ping the router?
[06:19] <meh3> noisewaterphd, yes, the hostos can ping the router and get online fine, i cant ping the guest os from the hostos
[06:19] <meh3> the router allows pings locally, yes
[06:19] <noisewaterphd> meh3: what virtualization technology are you using
[06:19] <meh3> noisewaterphd, vmware
[06:19] <coldboot|home> sticky_: They dropped support a while ago, probably because barely anyone uses Linux.
[06:19] <noisewaterphd> meh3: did you choose nat/bridged/etc...which one
[06:19] <meh3> noisewaterphd, Bridged
[06:19] <ChaoRhi> Hi. I'm trying to route my Wifi on my Lucid box so that my connection goes in one Wireless adapter and out the other. I found some community documentation online but it's about as clear as mud. Help?
[06:20] <noisewaterphd> assuming this is a server that you want to access from the outside world that may not work out great
[06:20] <meh3> noisewaterphd, im using this localy
[06:20] <meh3> and for my local network only
[06:21] <noisewaterphd> meh3: you have oficially entered the realm where this is more of a vmware issue
[06:21] <meh3> so it should atleast b accessed by the hostos
[06:21] <meh3> noisewaterphd, actually they said its an ubuntu issue
[06:22] <noisewaterphd> meh3: been a long time since i used vmware
[06:22] <meh3> noisewaterphd, ifconfig shows eth0 is up and it has its ips correct
[06:22] <noisewaterphd> meh3: but try hostonly, and nat methods
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> sticky_, coldboot|home <OT> i miss songbird </OT>
[06:23] <noisewaterphd> meh3: as long as you have it configured correctly it will work fine
[06:23] <coldboot|home> How do you get Banshee to read the file system?
[06:23] <mxe5> What's the easiest way to change the boot sequence on a 10.04 Lucid & Windows on the the other partition - Booting to Lucid 1st - Want to have Window as 1st boot ? ?
[06:24] <thune3> Guest25070: could you explain a bit more. not available?
[06:24] <noisewaterphd> meh3: and if it is indeed configured correctly, then it is a hardware issue...in your case the hardware is vmware, which is why i say it is a vmware issue
[06:24] <TiK> mxe5: edit /etc/default/grub and run pdae-gru
[06:24] <pfifo> mxe5, edit grub.cfg so it reads 'default="4"' inb4 everyone jumps down my throat
[06:24] <TiK> mxe5: edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[06:25] <meh3> noisewaterphd, hmm is it possible that vmware nic drivers require an update?
[06:25] <meh3> or the wrong ones installed
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, edit /etc/default/grub (as stated above) and change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to your windows
[06:25] <meh3> because i know for a fact that ubuntu 10.04 server works fine with vmware including the network
[06:25] <TiK> meh3: I use virtualbox i's faster :P
[06:26] <noisewaterphd> meh3: assuming that you just barely installed vmware tools in your ubuntu vm, then they should be the latest on that side
[06:26] <turt1e> mxe5:  or just install startup manager and set windows as default
[06:26] <noisewaterphd> meh3: as far as vmware itself needing an update, I have no idea
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> meh3, VB is much faster - it's why VMware doesn't allow benchmarks to be posted
[06:26] <thune3> mxe5: many options, i recommend renaming /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober
[06:26] <Guest25070> thune3, well I rebooted last night and got a "kernel panic not syncing vfs" error. So I assumed that there is something wrong with that kernel and wanted to boot using another kernel. The thing is that grub2 is skipping because timeout is set at 0 by default. So I wanted to chroot into my system so I can change /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[06:27] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9: and XEN is even faster than that
[06:27] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, i image kvm is as well
[06:27] <Izinucs> Guest25070: either shift or esc on boot will give you the boot menu..
[06:27] <mxe5> turtle: tried that but did not work for some reason - This is actually running the Netbook version of Lucid.
[06:27] <Izinucs> forgot which
[06:27] <thune3> Guest25070: you can hold down shift during boot to get grub2 menu, and maybe try older kernel
[06:28] <Guest25070> thune3, didn't know that just a sec lemme try
[06:28] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9: in aserver environment under moderate load I've never really seen a difference between recent vmware offerings and vbox
[06:28] <ljsoftnet> how do i add shutdown in Main Menu?
[06:28] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9: that being said, i don't personally use either of them in a server environment
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, it's an OT issue really.  but VMware doesn't allow benchmarks for a reason!
[06:29] <Madpilot> ljsoftnet, kill the power-symbol applet in the top right corner, and the shutdown/logout/etc stuff re-appears in the System menu like it used to
[06:29] <ljsoftnet> Madpilot: thanks man, gonna rigth it down, so that i wont forget
[06:29] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9: ya, but they are making their move into paravirt. your right tho..OT, I'm just very easy to sidetrack sometimes :)
[06:31] <Guest25070> thune "Error 0210: stuck key"
[06:31] <Guest25070> thune3,  "Error 0210: stuck key"
[06:31] <Guest25070> thune3 cool it worked. thanks man
[06:32] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: Ah I'm running the netbook version of Lucid 10.04 - the file mgr is fairly simple - not sure how to get to folder you mentioned as root etc. ?
[06:32] <pfifo> why dosent ubuntu have a full featured mingw32 cross compiler like back in the day?
[06:32] <Zombie> Anyone else willing to help me with my Intel Graphics card issue?
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, "gksu gedit /etc/default/grub" should give you a gui editor as root
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, as that is not a support question you really should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic and yes i know, there are a lot fewer people :(
[06:35] <thune3> Guest25070: i stepped away, glad you figured out to press shift after bios checks keyboard
[06:38] <S4ry> Zombie,
[06:40] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: Cool - will look above what you posted and change accordingly - Thanks much~!
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, glad to help
[06:42] <pksadiq> ?
[06:43] <Karen_m> I am trying to resolve my sound issues.  After a reboot, my headphones do not play my music.  The sound is not muted, i have checked that.
[06:44] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: This my current configuration < GRUB_DEFAULT=6 > Just change to < GRUB_DEFAULT=0 > and be good to go ? ?
[06:44] <thune3> Karen_m: headphones were working? did any system changes happen before headphones stopped working?
[06:45] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, you need the number that corresponds to windows - 0 is the first partition for example, 1 is second, etc. etc.
[06:45] <Karen_m> thune3, , the only change I did was installed festival beforehand.  I had rebooted, I wanted to try text-to-speech
[06:46] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, if you want to pastebin your output of "sudo fdisk -l" or if you can figure out which partition it is from that output.
[06:47] <S4ry> Karen_m, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[06:47] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: Ah - Yes my 1st and main partition was loaded with Windows - After installed then resized - and installed netbook 10.04 on 2cnd partition.
[06:47] <thune3> Karen_m: is anything other commands listed in the right column of "sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/seq*"
[06:48] <Karen_m> thune3, no :(
[06:48] <Karen_m> S4ry, i did all that already
[06:48] <thune3> Karen_m: is anything other than "pulseaudio" listed in the output
[06:48] <Karen_m> there is no output
[06:48] <S4ry> Karen_m, O' okay.
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> Karen_m, <just a test, not a solution & assumes 10.04> if it was due to a kernel update, hold shift while computer starts to get the Grub2 menu, then select an older kernel to see if your sound works.  Good luck.
[06:51] <Karen_m> does the headphones port auto-sense?
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> Karen_m, depends on the hardware
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> Karen_m, see if you have a headphone/front level in pulse that might be turned down or muted
[06:52] <Karen_m> i don't
[06:52] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: What's the site for pastebin - Do not have bookmark handy ?
[06:52] <thune3> Karen_m: the fuser command has no output? so pulseaudio isn't running or the snd device doesn't exit. Did you do anything to sound system to get festival running?
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> !paste | mxe5
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, have you tried 0 - that's the most likely i think.  I'm really not good with Windows interoperability issues by the way.
[06:54] <Karen_m> i'm going to reboot and see if this fixes it
[06:55] <Karen_m> ZykoticK9, I edited a /etc/festival.scm file that some documentation said.. i removed festival and am goign to reboot to see if that resolves it
[06:55] <Karen_m> brb, and thna kyou
[06:56] <bnixy7> I have setup my latest ubuntu version and setup my network for my home.  When I transfer a file from XP to Ubuntu (documents folder), it has a lock which opens into read only.  How can I fix this?  i am new so explain exactly.
[06:56] <jlw> Does anyone have any ideas as to why audio would be coming out of both the front audio jack and the rear audio jack simultaneously?
[06:56] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: < http://paste.ubuntu.com/486608/ > Looks like I would need to change to " 1 " - correct ?
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, you got it, 1!
[06:57] <pLr> jlw, there is a volume control for each one
[06:58] <Karen_m> why o' why does a reboot sometimes end up taking you to be logged out and at the login window.  Then you click the button in the bottom right to restart or shutdown, and nothing happens?
[06:58] <jlw> pLr, in sound preferences?
[06:58] <pLr> jlw, yes but it could vary depending on your sound setup
[06:59] <ZykoticK9> Karen_m, are you using ubuntu or xubuntu?  i've only personally experienced that with mythbuntu.
[06:59] <jlw> I've been playing with it for a while and can't seem to find the right setting.
[06:59] <noisewaterphd> jlw: type alsamixer from the cli
[06:59] <pLr> jlw, you have a default install?
[06:59] <Karen_m> I'm using ubuntu
[06:59] <noisewaterphd> jlw: you should be able to turn off the reaer if you need
[06:59] <jlw> plr, yes
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> Karen_m, sorry, i have no idea - but it's a bug really
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> ^guess it worked the second time (i don't see join/parts)
[07:02] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: Cool this stuff a bit more of a challenge trying to do this stuff in a smaller real estate of a 10" netbook and trying to learn how to use this other Netbook version of 10.04 lucid - I'd personally rather have lucid start 1st but have to use windows more for one of my business apps - thanks a bunch!
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, glad to help.  enjoy ubuntu.
[07:02] <Black_Phantom> My ubuntu sometimes freezes and the window goes gray, that especially happens when youtube is on, even though am on good hardware specs.
[07:02] <pfifo> dose the LiveCD (10.04.1) search for any extra partions to mount under its aufs during bootup (ie, can i get it to save changes to my harddrive instead of memory)
[07:03] <Black_Phantom> What could be the root of the problem ?
[07:03] <Zombie> ubuntu-motu
[07:04] <turt1e> Black_Phantom,  most likey it's the flash plugin, which one are you using, gnash or adobe's
[07:04] <Black_Phantom> Adobe
[07:04] <Black_Phantom> and everything is updated
[07:04] <Black_Phantom> and am not that heavy user to blame myself
[07:04] <Black_Phantom> Am using Google chrome btw
[07:05] <Zombie> Its almost like the sync rate is wrong.
[07:05] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, and this also happens when your not running a browser/flash?
[07:05] <Black_Phantom> very rarely, I can blame the heavy multi-task at that time
[07:06] <Zombie> I was wondering if I could replace it with an alternate driver.
[07:06] <shawnboy> Does Lucid take much more resources than Jaunty? I'm thinking about upgrading my 4 yr old notebook.
[07:07] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: Is there a way to save this session of Xchat for future reference of some of the shell commands I used ?
[07:07] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, ok you might have to report back on this one. When your screen goes grey, is your system still functioning properly aside from no picture?
[07:08] <dz2> what are some good network monitoring tools?
[07:08] <bnixy7> I have setup my latest ubuntu version and setup my network for my home. When I transfer a file from XP to Ubuntu (documents folder), it has a lock which opens into read only. How can I fix this? i am new at this also.  Maybe I do not have full permissions.
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, i know that all #ubuntu logs exist online - if you search for your nic and/or date, otherwise i imagine your client would have to be setup to be logging already.
[07:08] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, sometimes the system freezes and the mouse stops moving for like 6 sec, sometimes goes gray and comes back fast, sometimes freez the tab and I should close the page. It happens mostly on youtube.
[07:09] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, can you reproduce this problem at will?
[07:09] <Black_Phantom> Is like flash still facing nightmares with linux ?
[07:09] <pfifo> always
[07:10] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, no it just happens
[07:10] <Black_Phantom> sometimes I can even load a 720p without no troubles
[07:10] <turt1e> Black_Phantom,  try installing htop  and have it running before you go to youtube.  then see what happens when you go youtube
[07:10] <Black_Phantom> sometimes even a 360p freezes
[07:10] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, im thinking it might be ACPI or your screensaver
[07:10] <v4vijayakumar> chrome update is failing,  http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-beta/google-chrome-beta_6.0.472.41-r56471_amd64.deb
[07:11] <turt1e> oh... so it's intermittent on youtube.
[07:11] <v4vijayakumar> any idea ?!
[07:11] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: I just figured out a way - If you click on "Window" on top toolbar it drops open and there's a "save text..." command - Saved it as text file I can edit later.
[07:11] <Black_Phantom> turt1e, ok I installed htop
[07:11] <seezed> anyone had any experience groupoffice on server 10.04 ??
[07:11] <Black_Phantom> Typed htop in the terminal
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, nice!
[07:11] <Black_Phantom> turt1e, now just go to youtube ?
[07:13] <Zombie> 2.9.1-3ubuntu5
[07:13] <turt1e> Black_Phantom, yeah and watch the firefox processes cpu usage when you do
[07:13] <Black_Phantom> 31% CPU usage for Google Chrome
[07:13] <Black_Phantom> 8.8% Mem usage
[07:14] <Black_Phantom> 2 GB ram
[07:14] <turt1e> Black_Phantom,  now this won't fix the problem.  but you may be able to zero in on what process is spiking when it freezes
[07:14] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: I went back and forth on trying to decide to run the Netbook version or the regular Gnome desktop version I'm running on one of my desktops - have you ran the regular desktop version on a smaller 10" or so screen before ?
[07:14] <Black_Phantom> I leave my laptop on for days
[07:14] <Black_Phantom> Does that affect the problem ?
[07:14] <Black_Phantom> But I think its linux :/
[07:14] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, ohh its a laptop, that makes it even more likely that its ACPI
[07:15] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, i chose to run regular desktop on my EEE1005pe with a 10" screen (i used to really like UNR, but am not a fan of UNE the 10.04 version)
[07:15] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, I see, if it was the ACPI, how can I fix it ?
[07:15] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, dose this happen more ofern when your running on battery or AC
[07:15] <turt1e> bnixy7, the files probably just got copied over as read only,  do you just want to know how to change the permissions on them?
[07:15] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, I always run on AC
[07:16] <bnixy7> turtle, they are regular files on windows, not read only.  They are basic word documents.
[07:16] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, System - Pref - Power Managment
[07:17] <Black_Phantom> then ?
[07:17] <sambamount> anyone know where the default mountpoint is in ubuntu 10.04 for samba shares (like the mounted folders in the Places menu)?
[07:17] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: Yup - Water under bridge as of now - might wipe this partition and try the newer 10.10 gnome desktop when it's final.
[07:17] <pfifo> i would say adjust everything to take longer and possibly NEVER put your display to sleep
[07:18] <Black_Phantom> everything is never except Blank screen when laptop lid is closed
[07:18] <Jordan_U> mxe5: GRUB_DEFAULT= can either be a number or a full menu entry title. If it's a number it refers to the Nth menu entry, not the Nth partition. http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[07:18] <Black_Phantom> and there is no othe option lol
[07:18] <Black_Phantom> other*
[07:18] <turt1e> bnixy7, if you right click a file and select properties what are the owner permissions set to?
[07:19] <Black_Phantom> I this this is offtopic, but installing Debian *might* solve the problem ?
[07:19] <Black_Phantom> know*
[07:19] <ZykoticK9> mxe5, may i PM you?
[07:19] <bnixy7> turtle, Owner:nobody,  Group: nogroup
[07:20] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, blacklist the ACPI module
[07:20] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, how to do that ?
[07:20] <bnixy7> turtle, sounds like a permissions issue?
[07:20] <mxe5> ZykoticK9: Yup
[07:20] <DragonZulu> Is Wubi a fair way to see how the OS would behave with hardware?
[07:20] <DragonZulu> Without messing with partitions
[07:21] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, first type 'lsmod' into your terminal, find the name of the acpi module and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[07:22] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, my cpu is 1.73 ghz intel core duo, and I can Google chrome already using 31% with 15 tabs open
[07:22] <Black_Phantom> see*
[07:22] <sambamount> DragonZulu: both Wubi and LiveCD should test the hardware, though the speed is said to be slower using both than an actual install (especially with ext4)
[07:22] <DragonZulu> sambamount: But it should give a general idea?
[07:22] <turt1e> bnixy7,  yeah...  how exactly where these files transfered?
[07:22] <ZykoticK9> DragonZulu, using the LiveCD is probably a "better" test actually
[07:22] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, I dont think heavy CPU usage or low memory would cause your screen to go grey
[07:23] <sambamount> DragonZulu: it will give hardware compatibility, but not benchtesting speeds of things, such as graphics cards, etc.
[07:23] <Black_Phantom> window*
[07:23] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, my crappy eeepc dosent do that atleast
[07:23] <DragonZulu> sambamount: So I couldn't really get a good idea if my games would run under wine worth anything in Wubi ?
[07:23] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, fair enough lol
[07:23] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, i cant figure out which one it is there are many *stuff*
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> DragonZulu, check the winedb, much faster
[07:23] <sambamount> DragonZulu: you could see if they run, but not their speeds of running from an actualy install
[07:24] <bnixy7> turtle, I have a netbook, I use these documents daily for general purposes... i setup samba, shared the documents folder on ubuntu, got on my netbook, opened the shared folder on my xp machine, and drag/drop the document onto ubuntu.  opened it on ubuntu and says read only
[07:24] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, try 'lsmod | grep acpi'
[07:24] <sambamount> anyone know where the default mountpoint is in ubuntu 10.04 for samba shares (like the mounted folders in the Places menu)?
[07:24] <thune3> Black_Phantom, low memory could cause the issue, i'm running of a flash drive and i/o stalls do cause application to become unresponsive (grey/dim) while waiting for io
[07:25] <ZykoticK9> sambamount, check ~/.gvfs
[07:25] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, no results
[07:25] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, dose the application turn grey/dim or is it your whole monitor that does it?
[07:25] <Black_Phantom> thune3, I think 2 GB is very good for ubuntu :/
[07:25] <Black_Phantom> Application/window
[07:25] <_mrn_ver_> i installed "wine" 2 days backto use offline oxford dictionary .the system has got too slow.what to do?
[07:25] <DragonZulu> ZykoticK9: All they tell me in wine is "never crysis, maybe unreal 3, source will run fine"
[07:25] <sambamount> Zykotick9: thanks, thats the location, wish it would also mirror a symlink in /media
[07:25] <Black_Phantom> and sometimes other applications get unresponsive too and sometimes only the greyed one
[07:26] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, ok in that case, it has nothing todo with ACPI, its just cause your computer is slow
[07:26] <Black_Phantom> Perhaps the 1.73 ghz ?
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> DragonZulu, i tried crysis and failed, never tried unreal 3
[07:26] <DragonZulu> ZykoticK9: what about Half-Life to HL2:EP2 ?
[07:27] <ZykoticK9> sambamount, those ~/.gvfs aren't "real" mounts sorta thing.
[07:27] <_mrn_ver_> i installed "wine" 2 days backto use offline oxford dictionary .the system has got too slow.what to do?
[07:27] <turt1e> bnixy7, Ahh.. that's probably why they have been set to nobody.   Did the permissions tab allow you to change the file to read/write?  If not you will have to make the change as root
[07:27] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, if you know how, try compiling your browser by hand with optimizations and tailored to your CPU, I did that on my mom's machine and she gets better respons time
[07:27] <ZykoticK9> DragonZulu, i haven't tried either - more into native games really my page at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/gaming
[07:28] <Black_Phantom> pfifo, normal compiling, or I should so some customized stuff ?
[07:28] <DragonZulu> ZykoticK9: Source doesn't have a native linux client (yet)
[07:28] <Black_Phantom> do*
[07:28] <DragonZulu> ZykoticK9: Steam*
[07:28] <bnixy7> turtle, it will not let me change the permissions of the document.  How do I set up my user as root so these problems do not occur?
[07:28] <thune3> Black_Phantom: i guess I'm saying that the most likely candidate for the cause is i/o stall/wait. This can happen for several reasons.
[07:28] <DragonZulu> ZykoticK9: Q4 I have the disk for.  UT04 comes on steam.
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> DragonZulu, it's not coming :(  rumors where recently denied by a VP or something :(  </ot>
[07:29] <DragonZulu> ZykoticK9: I have the Q3 disks too
[07:29] <ZykoticK9> DragonZulu, steam i mean
[07:29] <DragonZulu> ZykoticK9: Maybe it was "Too hard and needed to be scrapped"
[07:29] <Black_Phantom> You think its the CPU or the graphics memory ?
[07:29] <DragonZulu> like the PS3
[07:30] <pfifo> Black_Phantom, its complicated, but you need it to compile with -O3 and -march=i686 or similar
[07:30] <DragonZulu> Then in about 2 years Dug or whoever will show up at a pengiun place screaming "Portal3 is coming to linux!"
[07:30] <DragonZulu> like he did the Playstation 3
[07:30] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, lol - is this gentoo all of a sudden?
[07:30] <DragonZulu> but that's another story
[07:30] <Black_Phantom> hmmm
[07:31] <Black_Phantom> ok thanks pfifo and turt1e :)
[07:31] <pfifo> ZykoticK9, nice to know someone know where i learned that trick
[07:31] <DragonZulu> Also, I've wondered if I need to install the Dell version of Ubuntu?
[07:31] <DragonZulu> Or is the regular CD fine?
[07:32] <whosjose> regular is fine i believe
[07:33] <DragonZulu> whosjose: I can't find the dell ISO for jack
[07:33] <whosjose> !help
[07:33] <turt1e> bnixy7,  well, I don't think you want to always run as root.  but in a terminal window you can run "sudo chown username:username filename" to change it's ownership to your username
[07:33] <whosjose> uh
[07:34] <ljsoftnet> how do i know the size of my swap partition?
[07:34] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, 'free' on command line
[07:34] <bnixy7> turtle: well what do I need to change so whenever I send a document over my network, I will not have to do that
[07:34] <i_is_broke> ljsoftnet, try fdisk -l
[07:34] <whosjose> DragonZulu: Dell only goes up to 9.04, so I do believe that the Ubuntu 10.04 should work without any problems
[07:34] <ZykoticK9> ljsoftnet, or "free -m" to see it in MBs
[07:35] <DragonZulu> why not df -h ?
[07:35] <DragonZulu> whosjose: Yeah I'm only seeing 9.04 too
[07:35] <pfifo> df-h wont show swap
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, swap is memory
[07:36] <whosjose> DragonZulu: Yea that's all what I see even on the Dell communities and wiki
[07:36] <pfifo> ZykoticK9, are you saying df -h WILL show swap?
[07:37] <whosjose> DragonZulu: Are you using a desktop or notebook?
[07:37] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, no, but "free" the memory command will
[07:37] <DragonZulu> I see.
[07:37] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, "sudo fdisk -l" would work as well
[07:37] <pfifo> ZykoticK9, thats what i recommended
[07:37] <whosjose> DragonZulu: I'm off to sleep perhaps someone here can help you, but I'm pretty sure that you will be okay with the original.
[07:37] <DragonZulu> whosjose: Desktop
[07:37] <whosjose> goodnight everyone
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, lol sorry, you actually beat me too it - didn't notice your reply
[07:38] <turt1e> bnixy7, that part I'm not real clear on.  can you explain again the setup
[07:38] <pfifo> ZykoticK9, lol
[07:38] <DragonZulu> I'll just install wubi with the regular disks
[07:38] <DragonZulu> disk*
[07:39] <bnixy7> I use xp for these documents.  I want to pass them over to ubuntu just over the basic network.  I shared the "documents" folder on ubuntu to throw files from xp onto it.  I open documents folder in ubuntu, and on the document, there is a lock on the upper right area of the file.
[07:39] <bnixy7> i installed samba to share the documents folder
[07:40] <DragonZulu> Odd, I put the disk in and got Execption Processing Message c000000013 Parameters 75b...
[07:40] <u-foka> Hy! After I used alt+sysrq+r to disable raw input on Xorg, how can I revert the effect without restarting X??
[07:40] <DragonZulu> Cancel , Try Again, Continue
[07:40] <ZykoticK9> u-foka, "compiz --replace" perhaps?
[07:40] <DragonZulu> It's not letting me use the disk
[07:41] <u-foka> ZykoticK9, it didn't help :(
[07:41] <DragonZulu> Says "No Disk"
[07:41] <u-foka> somehow I need to reenable raw input from keyboard
[07:41] <ZykoticK9> u-foka, do you need to restart compiz or are you trying to do something else?
[07:41] <turt1e> bnixy7, can you tell me what the "writable" line in your /etc/samba/smb.conf file says?
[07:42] <u-foka> the prob is after raw input is disabled, alt+f1, alt+f2 keys switches tty's
[07:42] <bnixy7> turtle, writeable = yes
[07:43] <lundh> I have installed windows xp then windows 7 on a different parition and now lastly ubuntu, why doesnt grub2 ket me boot windows xp?
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> u-foka, oh, sorry, thought you where looking for something else.  I'm no help at all with that.  Best of luck.
[07:43] <foolguy> in xchat, how do I display multiple windows at once? like multiple channels
[07:43] <turt1e> bnixy7, what about the "creat mask" and "directory mask" lines?
[07:44] <pfifo> foolguy, right click the channel name and choos detatch
[07:44] <S4ry> foolguy, #xchat
[07:45] <bnixy7> turtle,  create mask = 0700 directory mask = 0700
[07:45] <ljsoftnet> just did a fresh install of ubuntu, on a 500GB hard disk, when i open Disk Usage Analyzer it says 3.2GB used, 452.5GB available, but when i go to File Browser(nautilus) and click on "File System" the status bar says Free Space: 429.3 GB, where can i find the 30 GB which is not recognized?
[07:45] <bnixy7> how do i edit the smb.conf file?  sudo gedit etc/samba/smb.conf?
[07:46] <joljam> I am about to finish installation of Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx on my desktop. Towards the end I am getting a fatal error saying "unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda. What should I do?
[07:46] <ruckuus> hello everybody
[07:47] <turt1e> bnixy7,  sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:47] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, by default 5% of your disk space is reserved for root, use tune2fs to adjust this
[07:47] <adminewb> pfifo ok if I pm something off topic here?
[07:48] <pfifo> yeah
[07:48] <turt1e> bnixy7,  change  create mask to 0666 and directory mask to 0777,  but make a backup of the original file with sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak first
[07:48] <Jordan_U> lundh: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[07:49] <foolguy> whoever told me to uninstall xchat gnome and install regular xchat, thanks
[07:49] <lundh> Jordan_U: only windows 7 I belive, can double check
[07:49] <S4ry> joljam,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[07:50] <matt___> xzwerm
[07:50] <turt1e> bnixy7, oh and make sure you are making the changes under the "[shared_local] setting for your share
[07:51] <i_is_broke> hmmm anyone have win 7 running in vbox, and if so, did it activate no problems for you? cause mine didnt give me any trouble, and it was activated twice.
[07:51] <lundh> Jordan_U: yes, only win 7: /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[07:52] <kimi_s>  hi all!
[07:52] <baltazar> I have a computer without internet connection and I want to install emacs to it, can I do it from ubuntu cd?
[07:52] <foolguy> hello
[07:52] <matt___> g
[07:52] <thune3> joljam: looking through the forums, the recommendation is to consider the os installed and then try to fix grub from livecd. There may be some complicating factors if you are installing to a RAID array.
[07:52] <ljsoftnet> pfifo: thanks man
[07:52] <joljam>  S4ry: thank you
[07:52] <bnixy7> turtle, as strange as it sounds, I do not see a shared-local
[07:52] <Jordan_U> lundh: And selecting the windows 7 entry doesn't give you another menu with an option to boot XP? (they may be sharing the same boot partition)
[07:52] <lundh> Jordan_U: no
[07:53] <logan_wolf> baltazar, yes you can you need just the deb file
[07:53] <Jordan_U> !offline | baltazar
[07:53] <lundh> Jordan_U: I had dual booting between 7 and XP working before
[07:53] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, np, leave root a little tho, syslogd and stuff may need it
[07:53] <bnixy7> turtle, I also searched the document for both names, and nothing.
[07:53] <lundh> Jordan_U: XP was installed first so there is no special small windows 7 partition
[07:53] <lundh> either
[07:54] <Jordan_U> lundh: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the results?
[07:54] <ljsoftnet> pfifo: im just gonna leave it as is, tune2fs is kinda complicated, and i dont know how to use it
[07:54] <lundh> Jordan_U: will do
[07:55] <kimi_s> When i check my updates from update manager of Ubuntu 10.04 (updated) some of package information are not downloading (i mean they are failing) but the update manager works fine. Why some of them are failing? How to understand which are the softwares who are not updating for me ?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> joljam: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[07:55] <baltazar> so downloading the .deb and doing dpkg -i is the same as installing from aptitude?
[07:56] <xzwerm> Greetings
[07:56] <xzwerm> from the interior
[07:56] <turt1e> bnixy7,   actually that may be ok.  It's been a while since I've messed with samba shares.  Just looked at my current one also and don't see that either.  you can either try the value I gave or go with the 0755 values now given in the comments of the smb.conf.  I'd actually try 0775 first, reboot and see if that fixes it
[07:57] <joljam> Jordan_U After the installation, I am booting with the live CD. What should I do? Should I type mount in the terminal?
[07:57] <pLr> kimi_s, use the terminal try sudo apt-cache show pkgnamehere
[07:57] <Jordan_U> joljam: Yes.
[07:57] <S4ry> baltazar, you mean apt-get = aptitude ..
[07:57] <pfifo> kimi_s, I believe you can see errors by looking at the contents of the file /var/log/dpkg.log
[07:58] <bnixy7> turtle, for your authentication section, do you have "security = user"?
[07:59] <Kane_Hart> I'm having a crap load issues with my ATI card I think I got it installed right but apparently a few games I'm trying to run hate my ati card it's a 4870 and glxgears gives me a score of like 30k and that was per 5 secs and I don't think that is high from other people who used nvidia cards 5 times older lol. If I reset my pc now and install my nvidia card 8800GX2 will I have issues with driver conflicts betwee
[07:59] <Kane_Hart> n ati/nvidia or ubuntu take care of that?
[07:59] <kimi_s> pfifo: the log file is empty. i use a cleaner for ubuntu. i think the cleaner has delete it. but i have check many times the updates after the last time i use the cleaner.
[07:59] <Jordan_U> baltazar: Basically, yes. Just make sure that the .deb files you download are the same that apt-get/aptitude would be installing. You can do that by using Synaptic's package download script option or by getting them from packages.ubuntu.com and making sure you choose the correct Ubuntu release.
[07:59] <thune3> kimi_s: if i'm understanding you, some repository listings aren't downloading. running "sudo apt-get update" should give you an idea of what repos aren't downloading.
[07:59] <jesperv> Hi, I know this is not a windows channel but i hope you will answer my question anyway. I'm using winddows xp on work and want to move a window. In Ubuntu i just use <ALT> and drag the window. Can i do something similar in windows xp?
[07:59] <S4ry> Kane_Hart, what is n ati !
[08:00] <kimi_s> pLr: can you please give me a command ? i can use the command which you gave me...
[08:00] <matt___> whats the difference between #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net and irc.ubuntu.com???
[08:00] <yubahaq> i dont have a bigger resolution how can i add it
[08:00] <Jordan_U> matt___: Nothing, they are different servers that connect to the same network.
[08:00] <Kane_Hart> :(
[08:00] <ljsoftnet> pfifo: hey man i change my mind, how do i use tune2fs?
[08:01] <lundh> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/486623
[08:01] <kimi_s>  thune3: hmm i see them. should i delete them ?
[08:01] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, i completely agree with you, tune2fs is complicated
[08:01] <turt1e> bnixy7,   I do, but by default it seems to be commented out
[08:01] <yubahaq> how i add a new resolution
[08:01] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, 'man tune2fs'
[08:01] <thune3> kimi_s: if you could pastebin the info, i'll take a look
[08:02] <maco> !resolution | yubahaq
[08:02] <Kane_Hart> back to windows I guess
[08:02] <joljam> Jordan_U: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/8iKBE7Mr
[08:02] <Jordan_U> lundh: Did you move the XP partition? I don't think that XP can boot from an extended partition.
[08:02] <lundh> Jordan_U: no, did not move it
[08:03] <kimi_s> thune3: http://textsnip.com/f960ff  but nautilus elementary theme is not updating. this is something bad for me ?! :( i have to fix it... but i dont know why is not updating.
[08:03] <adminewb> jesperv afaik Windows doesn't allow windows to move unless you drag it by the title bar, i.e. no special control keys to drag from any part of the window
[08:04] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, i think its 'tune2fs -m 1% /dev/sdXX'
[08:04] <Jordan_U> joljam: Can you follow this guide: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide and tell me what the exact error from grub-install is?
[08:04] <pLr> kimi_s, sry i was gone.. did u fix it?
[08:05] <bnixy7> turtle, no luck
[08:05] <kimi_s> pLr:  no . http://textsnip.com/f960ff
[08:06] <thune3> kimi_s: were there errors listed after that output? everything looks ok there if i'm not missing something
[08:06] <Jordan_U> lundh: Your XP partition is not in (hd0,2) it's in (hd0,5).
[08:07] <pLr> kimi_s, the ubuntu software center does always include detailed information for all packages
[08:07] <kimi_s> thune3:  no error. there is no another output from this command. but it is not ok now. opera is not updating from that i understand.
[08:07] <kimi_s> thune3: i remeber i update many times the opera. how it is possible now to ignore it ?
[08:07] <pLr> kimi_s, but using the command i gave you earlier would
[08:08] <joljam> Jordan_U: when I type in sudo fdisk -l in the terminal i get the message saying "Unable to seek on /dev/sda
[08:08] <kimi_s> pLr: i know the software center. but i am talking about updates now...
[08:08] <pfifo> adminewb, you can select move from the dropdown menu and then grab it at any loction
[08:08] <turt1e> bnixy7,  you mean you tried the settings change and the files are still getting copied over as read only after a reboot?
[08:09] <lundh> Jordan_U: triend hd0,5 aswell
[08:09] <kimi_s> pLr: my system's all packages are not updating. that is a big problem. opera is not udpating. this is not possible..
[08:09] <adminewb> pfifo I stand corrected
[08:09] <Jordan_U> joljam: Something is definitely odd then. Is your hardware special in any way that you can think of?
[08:10] <bnixy7> turtle, yes.  I just made one other change, I went to samba under system, and went to the shared folder, properties, and under access i clicked all the boxes.  so im going to reboot again and see what happens
[08:10] <turt1e> ok
[08:10] <joljam> Jordan_U: its a HP Pavilion 64 bit onto which i am installing a 32 bit ubuntu
[08:11] <ljsoftnet> pfifo: 'tune2fs -m 1% /dev/sdXX' where do i refer /dev/sdXX do i put the main partition or the swap?
[08:12] <pLr> kimi_s, ok. whats the output of : sudo apt-get install opera
[08:12] <joljam> Jordan_U .. last time I installed ubuntu 10.04 it was an upgrade from 9.10 not a full blown install
[08:12] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, type mount or df -h at the command line to track down which partition it is that your looking for
[08:12] <kimi_s> pLr: it says is already installed latest version.
[08:12] <thune3> kimi_s: and after that "apt-cache policy opera". the latest version from your repo is 10.61.6430
[08:13] <Jordan_U> joljam: What is the output of "sudo blkid"?
[08:13] <kimi_s> thune3: ture.
[08:13] <kimi_s> thune3: true.
[08:13] <pLr> kimi_s, ok now tell me the output for: sudo apt-cache show opera | grep ^Ver
[08:14] <kimi_s> Version: 10.61.6430 pLr:
[08:14] <thune3> kimi_s: if it says that's installed, you have the latest version. it hasn't been updated since Aug 13, but 10.61 is the latest
[08:15] <joljam> Jordan_U: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/QuwiVhBE
[08:15] <kimi_s> thune3: yes i know it the latest version. but the main problem is why they are not updating. i mena there are other packages which are ignored (failed) when i check the udpates.
[08:15] <thune3> kimi_s: ign means that there is no new information from the repository to be downloaded. ign==up-to-date
[08:16] <bnixy7> turtle, I have under samba, properties, for anyone to access the folders and write/viewable
[08:16] <thune3> kimi_s: but i think i'm misunderstanding you
[08:16] <kimi_s>  thune3: i think you are not true. because after i check the updates, update manager says that there is no update. so why some one them are ignored ?
[08:16] <kimi_s>  thune3:  yes you did not understand me.
[08:17] <kimi_s> anyway i will ask to forums.
[08:17] <kimi_s>  thune3:  thank you!
[08:17] <pLr> kimi_s, the repositories are not made for lucid
[08:17] <pLr> kimi_s, thats y
[08:17] <kimi_s> pLr: but how i update the Opera 2 weeks before ?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> joljam: Ok, so you have some type of RAID (or at least blkid thinks you do). Do you know anything about it?
[08:18] <bnixy7> turtle, now it is saying that I need to type a username and pw to connect to ubuntu.  and it will not let me access the folders anymore.  bah hum bug.  i need to re install ubuntu
[08:18] <HBSC> does anyone know how to set up an ftp with vsftp behind a wired router?
[08:18] <thune3> kimi_s: i have not seen anything which indicates an error of any kind. it would help if you actually show some kind of error. Your opera IS the latest version.
[08:18] <kimi_s> pLr: also i had installed nautilus-elementary theme from this way.
[08:18] <kimi_s> thune3:  ok tank you!
[08:18] <joljam> Jordan_U: I do not know about it
[08:19] <pfifo> HBSC, yes
[08:19] <turt1e> bnixy7, you said you checked EVERYTHING in the samba settings?  you may want to double check that you didn't check off a setting for requiring a valid user
[08:19] <pLr> kimi_s, u chose deb.opera.com/ stable non-free. this is the latest version in there
[08:19] <Low-> dang the ubuntu room is full
[08:19] <Jordan_U> joljam: Can you pastebin the output of "ls -l /dev/mapper/"?
[08:20] <turt1e> what version of Ubuntu are you running btw?
[08:20] <HBSC> pfifo, should I forward anything beside port 20-21 ?
[08:20] <Low-> 10.4
[08:20] <kimi_s> pLr: ok tahnk you!
[08:20] <pLr> kimi_s, if you move to the unstable non-free you can update more often w/ more problems
[08:21] <pfifo> HBSC, tcp port 21 is all that is needed, unless you changed what port number it listens on. tcp/udp 20 is for something else (i forget what)
[08:21] <Jordan_U> Low-: It's always this way. If you have a question don't wait to ask :)
[08:21] <thedudester> the ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way forever
[08:21] <joljam> Jordan_U: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/GWdxBQrW 
[08:22] <Antonis> good morning folks. a friend of mine did something on my netbook (for fun) which shows a notification every x seconds (think its 15) but I can't find where or what to turn it off.. could you please help me? it's not a script or something in "Startup Applications"
[08:22] <thedudester> the ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way forever
[08:22] <pfifo> Antonis, Yes, i have the solution, find any sharp or blunt object and 'correct' your friend manually
[08:23] <HBSC> pfifo, i can login with my internal ip address, but now with my external ip... so i forwarded ports 20-21. am i missing anything else??
[08:23] <Antonis> pfifo, haha
[08:23] <ljsoftnet> pfifo: this is the code is use, 'sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sda1' and it fixed it, thanks man
[08:23] <Jordan_U> joljam: You should be able to do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/mapper/pdc_bcdhdijdfb"
[08:23] <thedudester> the ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way forever
[08:23] <pfifo> HBSC, you may need to adjust /etc/hosts.allow hosts.deny
[08:23] <bnixy7> turtle, i went to samba, preferences, server settings, security, says user and no encryp pw, I went to samba users, made up a user.  clicked the shared folder, went to its properties and selcted that anyone can access it
[08:23] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, enjoy
[08:23] <Jordan_U> joljam: Continue following the instructions from there.
[08:24] <thedudester> the ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way forever
[08:24] <Antonis> is there a way to see what processes / apps start at startup except of that dialog?
[08:24] <pfifo> HBSC, if i remember correctly vsftp uses inetd which respects those files
[08:24] <bnixy7> trutle, when i am on windows xp, and click the shared folder, it wants me to enter username/pw and i use the one i created in samba for that, but get an error and will not connect
[08:24] <thune3> Antonis: is there an icon or identifying text  associated with it? i'm guessing some evolution calender thing but i'm not sure.
[08:24] <joljam> Jordan_U: Thanks . let me try it out
[08:25] <Antonis> no, there is no icon.. only title not even a message
[08:25] <turt1e> Antonis, you are going to need to run top or htop and wait for it to pop up again and see what the program is called
[08:25] <olskolirc> hey cool cats and dolls i would like to watch tv in my terminal,  Im using hauppauge pvr 150 with vlc ivtv drivers
[08:25] <thedudester> can anyone help me?
[08:25] <thedudester> the ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way forever
[08:25] <Antonis> turt1e, hm.. will try that right now
[08:25] <thedudester> the ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way foreverthe ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way foreverthe ubuntu CD doesnt load when i reboot, its fixed on the ubuntu loading animation and stays that way forever
[08:26] <Chr|s> When I hover over an audio file, it doesn't preview the audio anymore, How come? I just recently installed a fresh copy of the latest ubuntu release
[08:26] <pfifo> thedudester, try booting without splash or quiet, sorry i dont know exactly how todo that
[08:26] <thedudester> whats splash?
[08:27] <pfifo> thedudester, the splash screen is the place its stuck at, and its probbally hiding an important error message behind it
[08:27] <turt1e> bnixy7,  can you back out the changes you made?  I'm at a lose at this point.
[08:27] <thedudester> oh right... interesting
[08:27] <thedudester> anyway
[08:27] <bnixy7> ive deleted all of my samba shares at this point.  I am also at a loss.  This is not making any sense.
[08:27] <thedudester> i tried installing ubuntu with wubi
[08:28] <thedudester> and i get a really weird error message right near the end of the installation
[08:28] <olskolirc> !flood | thedudester
[08:28] <Antonis> hm.. nothing :\
[08:28] <thedudester> "Permissions denide" and its right near the end of the installation
[08:29] <turt1e> bnixy7, and the only lines you modiefied in smb.conf were the two mask entries?
[08:29] <akaruz> Hello everyone!
[08:29] <bnixy7> turtle: am I able to PM you my complete file?
[08:29] <akaruz> Can someone tell me ! Which Os is good ? Linux ? or Mac OS ? and why?
[08:29] <olskolirc> thedudester, take the cd out and when you don't have X, drop to a terminal and type: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:30] <olskolirc> see if that will finish the install thedudester
[08:30] <Jordan_U> joljam: You're welcome. Even if it does work you may want to consider disabling RAID in the BIOS and re-installing Ubuntu with the "nodmraid" option. What you have is called Fake RAID, called that because companies try to pass it off as true hardware RAID when all it is is some code in the BIOS and software raid. It's often a pain to deal with as Fake RAID is generally proprietary and poorly documented (if at all).
[08:30] <turt1e> bnixy7, sure
[08:31] <Jordan_U> joljam: The only real advantage is that you can boot windows from it. While linux can boot from pure software RAID, windows can't.
[08:32] <S4ry> I remember saving someone data files to back it up from his Windows through Ubuntu live-cd :)
[08:32] <joljam> Jordan_U: In fact I do not want to have the ability to boot Windows
[08:32] <thune3> Chr|s: the control is found in Nautilus (the file browser) under Edit->Preferences|Preview|Sound File. If it is on, i would guess you don't have a codecs installed for that sound type, or it is not a type recognized.
[08:32] <S4ry> When he lost his windows user password !
[08:34] <Ubuntu-monitor> how can I setup two monitors for my Ubuntu, one is laptop the other is LCD
[08:36] <pfifo> Ubuntu-monitor, System -> Prefs -> Monitor
[08:37] <Jordan_U> joljam: I need to leave so I can't walk you through disabling Fake RAID in your BIOS and booting the install CD with the "nodmraid" option but I will be here tomorrow and maybe someone else can help you also.
[08:37] <nogienugz> hi guys, I have a problem with java jre. I often visit a site  ---> www.citiseconline.com, this website site doesn't display well, when i'm using ubuntu. but doesn't show any problem if i use windows... Second, in the website, when it always ask to install JAVA, but i ALREADY HAVE java installed... is anyone familiar w/ this problem?
[08:38] <pfifo> nogienugz, you have to install the java-plugin part of java as well as the jre
[08:38] <Ubuntu-monitor> pfifo, I am using 8.04, dont see monitors there
[08:39] <pfifo> Ubuntu-monitor, upgrade to 10.04 OR write your own xorg.conf
[08:39] <Ubuntu-monitor> pfifo, 10.04 ate all my stuffs, first mouse, then wifi then nvidia
[08:39] <Ubuntu-monitor> how can I change the xorg.conf
[08:40] <nogienugz> pfifo, huh? but in the synaptic package manager, i already checked all the "java6" related packages, and installed,, is the java plugin different from those?
[08:40] <pfifo> Ubuntu-monitor, writing your own xorg.conf is complicated, but there are pleny of resources on google and you can also view the manual by typing 'man xorg.conf' into a terminal
[08:40] <pfifo> nogienugz, yes
[08:41] <mosno> so in 10.04, if i change the user account password, shouldn't the system also update the gnome keyring password? if not, is there a way to enable this functionality?
[08:42] <nogienugz> pfifo, i'll try to search for that java package at home. thanks.
[08:43] <pfifo> monzo, i think the answer is no and no, but i rarely use the keyring and never change my password, so i may be wrong
[08:44] <monzo> pfifo, you probably mean mosno instead of monzo ;)
[08:44] <joljam> how can I disable Fake RAID in my BIOS with nodmraid option
[08:44] <pfifo> monzo, yes, in fact, i did!
[08:44] <pfifo> joljam, what type of motherboard do you have?
[08:45] <mosno> monzo, thanks
[08:45] <mosno> pfifo, i don't seem to remember having to worry about gnome-keyring falling out of sync on fedora, but i could be wrong
[08:45] <mosno> will need to research further
[08:47] <Andr00> if any thing gos wrong with linux, blame linus torvalds. he created the hole linux thing
[08:48] <pfifo> i send him hate mail atleast twice a day
[08:48] <joljam> pfifo. my machine is AMD Phenom(TM) II X4 920 quad-core processor [2.8GHz, 2MB L2 + 6MB L3 shared, up to 4000MT/s]
[08:48] <seidos> !ot | Andr00
[08:49] <pfifo> joljam, no thats not what im looking for, your motherboard itself will have a model number. I need to find the documentation for it
[08:49] <Andr00> oh ok...
[08:49] <joljam> pfifo. where can I get the model number from
[08:50] <pfifo> joljam its usually printed on the motherborad, you may have to open your PC and grab a flashlight
[08:50] <Andr00> lets DELETE the linux kernel then see what ubuntu is now?
[08:50] <pfifo> no, dont delete it, use dpkg to safely remove it
[08:51] <Andr00> ubuntu - linux kernel = a bunch of useless code
[08:52] <rww> Andr00: Do you have an Ubuntu support question somewhere in there?
[08:52] <pfifo> Andr00, it should be possible to use a bsd kernel with the files ubuntu provides, but i would expect some problems
[08:53] <whosjose> I have a question, I'm running VirtualBox and Windows XP. I'm trying to get a USB Storage picked up but it doesn't get picked up. Now what gets me is that it states the name of the drive but it's basically disable, it won't let me access it.
[08:53] <Vampire> is this Ubuntu official channel, i mean for ubuntu.com ?
[08:53] <rww> Vampire: yes
[08:53] <whosjose> Vampire: yea
[08:54] <whosjose> any help?
[08:55] <SGHi7> Hello. I seem to be having input issues. This happens in games, desktop, everywhere. I can move my mouse perfectly fine (touchpad), but if I input something on the keyboard and move my mouse, it takes 2-3 seconds to respond. Any suggestions?
[08:55] <cromag> whosjose: is that an ubuntu issue ?
[08:55] <whosjose> i'm unsure
[08:55] <ReadPlease> A virtual machine was installed on this system, and it's supposed to have 'mini' ubuntu installed, but it seems it's got desktop edition.  I'd like to remove desktop and move to mini....
[08:55] <ReadPlease> I didn't see the option to do minimal install during the install process, though
[08:55] <cromag> i would try in the vbox channel
[08:56] <grayhame> how can I turn off the screen save so it stops locking me out ?
[08:56] <whosjose> ok
[08:56] <ReadPlease> Okay, cromag.  You go do that, and I'll try here.
[08:56] <ReadPlease> Meet back in 5 minutes.
[08:56] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> -win 2
[08:56] <cromag> if i were talking to you, you would know.
[08:56] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> argh.. stupid keyboard
[08:57] <ReadPlease> Ah, my mistake.
[08:57] <ReadPlease> Anyway, I think I can handle the 'reformat', but it took like 2 hours to install on this computer, and I really don't want to screw up twice.
[08:58] <SGHi7> do you mean the netbook edition VS desktop edition?
[08:58] <S4ry> grayhame, system - Preferences - Screensaver
[08:58] <pfifo> grayhame, System -> Prefs -> Screensaver
[08:58] <S4ry> Uncheck / look screen ..
[08:58] <pfifo> SGHi7, what hardware are you using?
[08:59] <apctr> I'm getting some error to install packages using synaptic package manager
[08:59] <S4ry> apctr, whats that error saying ..
[08:59] <SGHi7> Intel 2.26GHz C2D, Nvidia 9600M GT, 10.04
[08:59] <joljam> pfifo: Motherboard model number is PAXHD0B9VY40CT
[09:00] <whosjose> ugh no help in the vbox
[09:00] <pfifo> joljam, google that number and see if you can find a PDF manual
[09:00] <apctr> SGHi7: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:01] <joljam> pfifo: nops
[09:01] <pfifo> SGHi7, im looking for the touchpad and keyboard info, try 'lspci' and 'lsusb'
[09:01] <joljam> pfifo: google is not returning any results
[09:01] <ashish_> hi
[09:02] <pfifo> joljam that may not be your motherboard model then.
[09:02] <apctr> S4ry: Did u get the problem
[09:02] <pfifo> joljam, who made your computer?
[09:02] <joljam> its a HP PAVILION
[09:02] <S4ry> apctr, First thing you need to check Synaptic Package Manager open at the same time
[09:02] <SGHi7> pfifo, I peeked through both and it doesn't seem to show.
[09:03] <pfifo> joljam, and dose it have a model number associated with it?
[09:03] <Guest27080> Gwibber is not fetching twitter updates
[09:03] <SGHi7> It's the HP HDX X16-1040US if that helps any
[09:03] <S4ry> apctr, or
[09:03] <S4ry> That happens when synaptic or another package update / installation application is already running. Close any other package managers
[09:03] <ohir> joljam: go to hp.com site and search for P/N number
[09:04] <SGHi7> pfifo, it may be this one 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
[09:04] <ohir> joljam: P/N stands for part number and thats the number that interests you
[09:04] <S4ry> apctr, Otherwise, issue this command ' sudo killall dpkg
[09:05] <apctr> S4ry: there is no any running process and i just installed on my system and i'm reloding packages
[09:05] <pfifo> SGHi7, im guessing that the hardware isnt fully supported, have you tried with any other version of ubuntu or a different distro?
[09:05] <joljam> ohir: mine is a HP Pavilion Elite e9200z
[09:05] <joljam> I am in the HP website
[09:05] <S4ry> apctr, try the command , sudo killall dpkg .. then reload again
[09:06] <SGHi7> No, just 10.04. Guess I could try a live kubuntu
[09:06] <joljam> what should I search for
[09:06] <ohir> joljam: so there under 'service' tab you should be able to find manuals
[09:06] <ohir> joljam: as well as any firmware (for windows sometimes also for linux) updates
[09:07] <apctr> SGHi7: it shows that no process found...and i think u r telling me the solution for /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:07] <apctr> S4ry: it shows that no process found...and i think u r telling me the solution for /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:07] <nogienugz> guys, one more thing, i'm using sip in empathy to connect to my smsdiscount account. I'm using my logitec webcam both as a camera and as a MICROPHONE. But in empathy, the person on the other side of the line can't hear me. I can make calls and can hear the person on the other side, but he/she can't hear me... any ideas? I've check empathy's sound settings, but it doesnet show my sound devices in it....
[09:07] <joljam> ohir: I got it H-RS880-uATX
[09:08] <joljam> pfifo the motherboard is H-RS880-uATX
[09:09] <S4ry> apctr, close Synaptic & try .. sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[09:09] <ychoucha> bonjour
[09:09] <pfifo> joljam, yeah now i need the manual
[09:09] <SGHi7> pfifo, haha. did more googling, and it was as simple as having "disable touchpad when typing" unchecked :)
[09:10] <joljam> pfifo .. this is what I got http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&docname=c01925486&product=4007354#N1067
[09:11] <pfifo> SGHi7, lucked out on that one then
[09:11] <S4ry> apctr, how did that go ..
[09:11] <Antonis> aaaaah can't find it anywhere.. where else should I look for this notification??
[09:11] <apctr> S4ry: thanks bro..it works
[09:12] <bennym> Antonis, ask your friend?
[09:13] <Antonis> it's a "game we play"... do something through ssh and let the other solve.. :p but this drives me crazy
[09:13] <pfifo> joljam, can you talk here on the channel on a different computer than the one were troubleshooting?
[09:13] <Antonis> I can't see the history causeh e removed it..
[09:13] <jetienne_> i look for a small iso for a live cd, any suggestion ?
[09:13] <joljam> pfifo I am talking on my laptop
[09:14] <pfifo> good
[09:14] <theadmin> jetienne_: This is not the right channel. But try TinyCore Linux or DamnSmallLinux
[09:14] <HBSC> pfifo, remember how earlier you told me to edit /etc/hosts.allow for vsftpd to work? is the proper syntax ALL:ALL?
[09:15] <pfifo> HBSC, i forget
[09:15] <pfifo> joljam, you need to reboot your HP and go into the CMOS settings
[09:15] <S4ry> apctr, glad to know
[09:16] <haux> I just finished upgrading to 10.10. When I start Ubuntu, it takes me to command prompt. How do I load the window manager?
[09:16] <theadmin> pfifo, HBSC: hosts.allow syntax is daemon_list:client_list:shell_command (last one is optional)
[09:16] <theadmin> haux: Try "sudo service gdm start" or "startx"
[09:16] <haux> I tried startx, I haven't tried the other thing
[09:16] <HBSC> pfifo, thanks!
[09:18] <haux> theadmin, One I get it loaded, how do I set it up to load every time?
[09:18] <joljam> pfifo done...I am in BIOS SETUP UTILITY now.. thats what u mean by CMOS . is that correct?
[09:18] <Antonis> bennym, it's more like a tooltip than a notification
[09:18] <pfifo> joljam, yes
[09:18] <i_is_broke> whats a good tool to keep track of fan speeds and cpu temperatures?
[09:18] <theadmin> haux: Hmzzzz... Use this in terminal: "sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults"
[09:18] <theadmin> i_is_broke: lmsensors
[09:19] <i_is_broke> theadmin, is it a pain in the arse to config?
[09:19] <haux> Thanks.
[09:19] <bennym> Antonis, I'm assuming you've googled it? I'd try to find out how to do it myself, then use that knowledge to beat the old one.
[09:19] <theadmin> i_is_broke: Not even the slightest idea - I never worried about my CPU temperatures
[09:20] <pfifo> joljam, under 'intergrated peripherls' and then under 'IDE Configureation' you will see 'OnChip SATA Type' correct?
[09:21] <Guest20338> Hello, I've running Lucid-Server on a USB-Stick and after some days the rootfs is no more accessible. It looks like the stick has been ejected. What can I do?
[09:22] <jasonmchristos> is this ok to do in ubuntu lucid?: After the installation you may start daemon from the konsole manually:
[09:22] <jasonmchristos>    "sudo /usr/local/bin/zfoned start" or add it autostart using update-rc.d
[09:22] <jasonmchristos>    utility: "sudo update-rc.d zfone defaults"
[09:22] <joljam> pfifo there are five menus namely: MAIN , ADVANCED, POWER, BOOT, EXIT
[09:22] <bennym> Guest20338, Resinstall. If that's a problem, make a second liveCD/liveUSB and use it to reconfigure the first.
[09:22] <martiner> Hello everyone... How many runlevels do we have in Ubuntu? is it 6?
[09:22] <theadmin> martiner: From 0 to 6, that makes 7.
[09:22] <theadmin> %)
[09:22] <theadmin> or no, 6 still
[09:23] <pfifo> joljam, I may be looking at the wrong manual then, one minuter
[09:23] <theadmin> My brain is melting, sry
[09:23] <martiner> hehe, so, 0 - 5?
[09:23] <theadmin> martiner: nah, 0 - 6, it's right. But 0 is halt and 6 is reboot
[09:23] <jasonmchristos> is it ok to do for lucid?
[09:23] <theadmin> martiner: On my distro runlevel 4 is weird - it's not even configured by default hehe
[09:23] <S4ry> Remember guys to join your Ubuntu loco team .. to help getting Ubuntu Shape
[09:24] <pfifo> joljam, ok, we will have to find this on our own then, look under advanced for IDE/sata options
[09:24] <jasonmchristos> is it ok to do for lucid? sudo update-rc.d zfone defaults
[09:24] <martiner> theadmin, Ok, i see.. Thanks alot :)
[09:24] <sburjan> hello. I want to use Terminal Server Client to connect to a remote host .. on other computers around me works, but on my laptop doesnt work. I get "Autoselected keyboard map en-us. Error: machine : Unable to connect
[09:24] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: It's okay to update-rc.d whatever defaults on ANY version
[09:24] <S4ry> jasonmchristos, it is
[09:24] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: Weird question to be honest :D But it's okay, everyone was new to this command mess at some point
[09:24] <jasonmchristos> will it start automatically then
[09:25] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: Should.
[09:25] <joljam> pfifo under ADVANCED there is SATA1 Controller [enabled] and SATA Controller mode [RAID]
[09:25] <jasonmchristos> i thought ubuntu was moving away from that towards init.d
[09:25] <Guest20338> bennym: reinstall? I can reboot the machine and it works again for 3-4 days...
[09:26] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: Uh, no, it was moving away from init.d to /etc/init, but whatever with that
[09:26] <jasonmchristos> is it simple to resize an encrypted lvm?
[09:27] <jasonmchristos> what command should i issue?
[09:27] <pfifo> joljam, yeah thats it, make it say enabled and something besides RAID, you probbally want something like 'Native IDE' or failing that list what you do have available
[09:27] <joljam> pfifo IDE is there besides RAID can I choose it?
[09:28] <jasonmchristos> i see i have stumped the experts with that question...
[09:28] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: There are no experts here heh, just volunteers
[09:28] <S4ry> jasonmchristos, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[09:28] <pfifo> joljam, Yes that should work, make the change and then before you SAVE, its only fair to warn you that you will probbally have to format your harddrives (but i beleive you said you couldnt boot windows anyway)
[09:29] <joljam> pfifo thanks let me give it a try
[09:29] <jasonmchristos> how much does volunteer work pay nowadays?
[09:29] <S4ry> Thats what the Ubuntu community is all about :)
[09:29] <pfifo> jason_m, double what it used to ;)
[09:29] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: Nothing. We don't get paid.
[09:29] <S4ry> Zero , nothing
[09:29] <S4ry> lol
[09:29] <theadmin> That's the point.
[09:29] <pfifo> oops i meant jasonmchristos
[09:29] <jasonmchristos> lol better tell canonical to share
[09:29] <theadmin> NUL, nil, nothing, None... :P
[09:29] <rooks> does anyone know how to enforce extra groups in /etc/security/groups.conf ?
[09:30] <Sc00t3r> Canonical is a donation-based company that uses all of its funds for the enhancement of Ubuntu and its other developed products.
[09:30] <S4ry> rooks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[09:30] <jasonmchristos> i volunteer for the taking donations part
[09:30] <crekarasu> Hi ! how can I install an anti-ddos for my linux please
[09:30] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: I myself am not even an Ubuntu user yet am still trying to help :D
[09:31] <theadmin> crekarasu: You mean a firewall?
[09:31] <rooks> S4ry, i followed it, but for some reason it doesnt work for me, did it work for you?
[09:31] <crekarasu> theadmin yes with ddos protection
[09:31] <jasonmchristos> ok having to restart now guys
[09:32] <S4ry> rooks, i didn't have to ..
[09:32] <pfifo> joljam, ok once your done there, you will have 2 normal plain jane harddrives, you can use a software raid with linux, but windows will nolonger be an option, or you can not use any raid at all, and just use the 2 hraddrives as is
[09:32] <theadmin> crekarasu: There are a few, try gufw for instance
[09:32] <rooks> S4ry, ah, i think i have offender, i used default pam in ubuntu, and this modified listing i nao looked at has 'use_first_pass' clause
[09:33] <crekarasu> theadmin where I can find?
[09:33] <pfifo> joljam, so the question is do you NEED to have a RAID?
[09:33] <rooks> gotta check it out
[09:33] <Guest448> hallo
[09:33] <nogienugz> guys, one more thing, i'm using sip in empathy to connect to my smsdiscount account. I'm using my logitec webcam both as a camera and as a MICROPHONE. But in empathy, the person on the other side of the line can't hear me. I can make calls and can hear the person on the other side, but he/she can't hear me... any ideas? I've check empathy's sound settings, but it doesnet show my sound devices in it
[09:33] <theadmin> crekarasu: just run "sudo apt-get install gufw" in terminal
[09:33] <Guest448> any weedgrowers here?
[09:33] <pfifo> nogienugz, unmute you microphone
[09:34] <S4ry> rooks, it's alright , we all do offend in some point :)
[09:34] <theadmin> Guest448: Wrong channel :/ Go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:34] <Sc00t3r> nogienugz, Have you checked to make sure that the webcam's microphone is set as the system's default sound input device?
[09:34] <JimmyBoi> hi all
[09:34] <rooks> S4ry, :D
[09:34] <S4ry> hey JimmyBoi
[09:34] <nogienugz> pfifo, i already checked that.. everything is working fine, except when i tried to call using emphaty
[09:34] <crekarasu> theadmin tank you
[09:35] <martiner> Ok, another noobish question.. So how do I change Runlevel in ubuntu?
[09:35] <JimmyBoi> hi any one here using backtrack
[09:35] <Sc00t3r> nogienugz, Make sure that your empathy client is set to use that input device. you should be able to set up the cam/microphone in the settings.
[09:35] <nogienugz> Sc00t3r, that's what i was asking, i can't see that option in empathy, it doesn't show any info about my sound devices..
[09:35] <pfifo> martian, on ubuntu < 9.10 you just type 'sudo init X' where X is the runlevel, in 10.04 im pretty sure runlevels dont exist
[09:35] <S4ry> JimmyBoi, Jump to #backtrack
[09:35] <captivus> Good evening, all
[09:35] <HBSC> does anyone know how to set up vsftpd behind a router? I'm about ready to use UPS to send this file...
[09:35] <captivus> I have a fairly embarassing question
[09:36] <theadmin> martian: On Ubuntu, all runlevels are equal except 0 and 6
[09:36] <JimmyBoi> kk ty lol
[09:36] <captivus> I seem to have forgotten how to use my gnuPGP key
[09:36] <Sc00t3r> nogienugz, I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu's IM clients (I don't use them for stuff like this lol)
[09:36] <pfifo> martiner,  on ubuntu < 9.10 you just type 'sudo init X' where X is the runlevel, in 10.04 im pretty sure runlevels dont exist
[09:36] <captivus> Can someone please advise?
[09:36] <S4ry> JimmyBoi, :)
[09:36] <martiner> pfifo, Then my info is correct... Thanks
[09:36] <pfifo> HBSC, why vsftp?
[09:36] <martiner> theadmin, Thanks alot... this helps :)
[09:37] <theadmin> martiner: This is weird, I know :D
[09:37] <HBSC> pfifo, which one do you recommend?
[09:37] <pfifo> HBSC, cuteftp is 10 times easier to setup
[09:37] <S4ry> captivus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey
[09:37] <ljsoftnet> pfifo: hey man, do u have a picture on how to unplug a sata cable, i'm kinda scared i migth break something
[09:38] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, what? you just pull it out like unplugging a lamp
[09:38] <martiner> theadmin, Yes it really is, haha... I've been searching and googling like crazy....
[09:39] <Sc00t3r> ljsoftnet, Those things are not easy to break. Just pull it out, shouldn't be hard to do it.
[09:39] <ljsoftnet> pfifo, Sc00t3r ok thanks
[09:39] <S4ry> ljsoftnet, have you seen any on google images
[09:40] <theadmin> martiner: Well np
[09:40] <ljsoftnet> S4ry i did, i just taugth there would be an easy way
[09:40] <S4ry> ah , careful though ..
[09:40] <ljsoftnet> S4ry i tried pulling it, and pulled it with nothing broken
[09:41] <ljsoftnet> pfifo, S4ry, i just taugth there would be a proper way of doing it
[09:41] <captivus> S4ry: Ok ... so I have the following files:  pubring.gpg secring.gpg
[09:41] <captivus> S4ry: Are these the files I need?
[09:41] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, nope, treat it like its a usb cable
[09:41] <captivus> S4ry: It seems that this box has forgotten the keys that I once created
[09:42] <mutlucan96> Woowwww
[09:42] <ljsoftnet> pfifo ok
[09:42] <mutlucan96> bura ne kadar da kalabalık!
[09:42] <theadmin> o_O what the heck was that
[09:43] <S4ry> captivus, http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/GPG-Configuration.html
[09:44] <S4ry> ljsoftnet, i never really do that .. so good luck
[09:44] <tandkzy> how to manger service gdm?
[09:45] <mutlucan96> Bura manyak kalabalık işi olmayan gitsin böle iş mi olur?
[09:46] <ohir> !tu | mutlucan96
[09:46] <S4ry> mutlucan96, English please
[09:46] <mutlucan96> Ubuntu turkish server?
[09:46] <pfifo> what language is that?
[09:46] <Sc00t3r> !az  mutlucan96
[09:46] <ohir> pfifo: turkish
[09:46] <mutlucan96> :D
[09:47] <Sc00t3r> I thought it was Azerbaijani, Ohir.
[09:47] <S4ry> mutlucan96, you mean Ubuntu turkish channel :)
[09:47] <captivus> S4ry: I'm dreadfully sorry ... but I can't make top nor tail of how to work with these files.  Background:  I've created a repo on github and I want to use the same key I used with my LP account for github
[09:48] <slow-ninja> hi
[09:48] <captivus> S4ry: I don't know what values to give github ... and I want to check my passphrase for my private key before I upload the pertinent details
[09:48] <mutlucan96> Ok ok ok. I've found. : #ubuntu-tr
[09:48] <captivus> S4ry: I know that this is a rather daft series of questions ... but here I am. </embarrassment>
[09:48] <mutlucan96> by by alll!.
[09:49] <S4ry> mutlucan96, hold on
[09:49] <falmog> I got a question =]
[09:49] <S4ry> captivus, hold on :)
[09:49] <captivus> S4ry: Cheers, mate.  Thanks.  <holding>
[09:50] <falmog> How do i know which apache2.2bin to use?
[09:51] <Coronade> oh hell you could all use a gander at this:
[09:51] <Coronade> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2010/1/55760-what-should-we-teach-new-software-developers-why/fulltext
[09:51] <Coronade> :)
[09:54] <S4ry> captivus,
[09:54] <captivus> S4ry: Yessir?
[09:54] <pfifo> Coronade, I can program my way out of a paperbag
[09:55] <Excell-Home> hi all Is there anyway to increase the default screen brightness without playing with the monitor
[09:57] <shcherbak>  
[09:57] <ubuntu_> Hello
[09:57] <qnrmint> hello
[09:58] <pfifo> Is ubuntu going to become self-aware and start a human-machine war that ultimately ends in Armageddon?
[09:59] <villev> not by 10.10 anyway
[09:59] <shcherbak> lol
[09:59] <falmog> Omg
[09:59]  * Guest20338 get coffee
[10:00] <topgun> oiriojr
[10:00] <topgun> aw.
[10:01] <matttttt> o yay
[10:02] <trijntje> pfifo, yes, and you'd better be on its friendly side ;)
[10:02] <hsr> hello
[10:03] <pfifo> hi hsr
[10:04] <pfifo> what command do I run to compute the winning lottery number for tomorrow?
[10:05] <hsr> For knetworkmanager in terminal, i am getting following output- QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Monolithic::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() - Please help.....
[10:05] <captivus> S4ry: Thanks for your help!
[10:05] <rocode> pfifo, when you find it, clue us in, okay?
[10:06] <hsr> Anyone there to help??
[10:06] <pfifo> hsr, i think you might want #kunbuntu
[10:06] <rocode> hsr, yes. Please ask your question.
[10:06] <hsr> For knetworkmanager in terminal, i am getting following output- QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Monolithic::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() - Please help.....
[10:07] <pfifo> hsr, knetworkmanager is KDE isnt it?
[10:08] <akaruz> guys i have installed Chromium Web Browser and why he using pc 60-75% when im watching a video ?? O_O :(
[10:08] <frey> Hello. I work at a university which uses Active Directory and offers CIFS shares. What convenient way can you recommend to mount the shares on a laptop?
[10:09] <pfifo> frey, google for cifs and smbmount
[10:09] <joljam> pfifo I was able to install ubuntu 10.04.. but then GRUB did not install properly
[10:09] <pfifo> joljam, what was the error?
[10:09] <joljam> so I am trying to install GRUB only from the live CD,  need help on this
[10:09] <frey> pfifo: I've looked at a few solutions, but I think many of them are crude.
[10:10] <joljam> pfifo. Towards the end I am getting a fatal error saying "unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda.
[10:10] <pfifo> frey, i personally used to add entries to my fstab to automount things at boot, you can also write a shell script if you want it to be easier todo
[10:10] <madjoe> after sudo apt-get update, I got this: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com karmic/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_karmic_partner_binary-amd64_Packages) - HOW can I resolve this issue?
[10:11] <falmog> hey ubuntu noob here.... trying to watch a movie with 10.04, but im having some trouble. can anyone help?
[10:11] <pfifo> joljam, your MBR may have sometype of security on it preventing you from modifying it
[10:11] <joljam> pfifo how can i rectify that
[10:11] <frey> pfifo: That's also possible, yes.
[10:12] <S4ry> akaruz, see whats  spiking the cpu ..  with the command ' ps aux
[10:12] <frey> Do you know how well LikewiseOpen works?
[10:12] <pfifo> joljam, im not entirely sure that is the problem, follow a tutorial to install grub manually.
[10:12] <falmog> anyone?
[10:12] <branden792> falmog: what kind of movie are you trying to watch (home movie or a purchased movie)?
[10:12] <joljam> ok
[10:12] <pfifo> frey, sorry im a cli type
[10:13] <frey> pfifo: LikewiseOpen has cli tools too.
[10:13] <falmog> .avi
[10:13] <branden792> falmog: Is it  a DVD or a download?
[10:13] <pfifo> frey, i mean ive never used anything besides 'mount' to access shares
[10:13] <falmog> downloaded
[10:13] <S4ry> Ubuntu 10.4+Likewise Open+Active Directory combination is perfect with no issue on network resource access, sso process, password changes...excellent.
[10:14] <falmog> obviously
[10:14] <pfifo> frey, give it a try if you think youll like it, it cant hurt anything
[10:14] <frey> S4ry: What about credential caching?
[10:14] <SLierFox> hey peeps i cant seem to boot ubuntu on a toshiba satellite 1130 just blank screen after ubuntu logo and red loading dots also used i915.modeset=1 and does not boot ? has anyone got the skills here to help me ?
[10:14] <branden792> falgmog: Did you install the codecs:
[10:14] <madjoe> after sudo apt-get update, I got this: W: Duplicate sources.list entry ... the answer to this issue was: sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get check
[10:14] <hsr> a
[10:14] <branden792> ?
[10:15] <akaruz> S4ry, sorry? i didn't understand... please explain from simple way
[10:15] <falmog> hmmmm yea it searched for them on its own.
[10:16] <ddavids> falmog: i dont think you got all the codecs right. u probably need to add the medibuntu repository
[10:17] <branden792> falmog: Try opening the ubuntu software center under application and searching 'avi codec' and it should show you available codecs to install.
[10:17] <hsr> Anyone there to help minor KDE issue here?
[10:18] <ddavids> falmog: can u remember install ubuntu-restricted-extras after your installation?
[10:18] <joljam> pfifo I am getting a message saying that I am attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR
[10:18] <pfifo> hsr, you really should ask in #kunbuntu
[10:18] <madjoe> After "sudo /usr/games/pokerth" I received this error: "pokerth: /usr/include/boost/shared_ptr.hpp:419: T* boost::shared_ptr< <template-parameter-1-1> >::operator->() const [with T = SessionData]: Assertion `px != 0' failed."
[10:18] <falmog> ddavids: yea i believe so
[10:18] <madjoe> any clues?
[10:18] <hsr> pfifo: i tried,,, no respomse..hence hereAnyone there to help minor KDE issue here?
[10:18] <pfifo> joljam, double check, you probbally chose /dev/sda1 instead of dev/sda
[10:19] <elundril> hello
[10:19] <ddavids> falmog: did you try vlc player?
[10:19] <S4ry> akaruz, Alright , type this command on the terminal ..  ps aux
[10:19] <joljam> pfifo... to begin with my linux is on /dev/mapper/pdc_bcdhdijdfb1
[10:19] <falmog> ddavids: theres vlc for ubuntu?
[10:20] <joljam> pfifo that is where  I installed grub
[10:20] <S4ry> elundril, Hey
[10:20] <branden792> falmog: You need to make sure you have the GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin installed
[10:20] <S4ry> falmog, indeed
[10:20] <hsr> pfifo: If you are not willing to reply, let others reply atleast
[10:20] <pfifo> joljam, what? that dosent seem correct. Ive never seen anything like that before
[10:20] <pfifo> hsr, what do you mean?
[10:20] <joljam> pfifo .. even after we changed the CMOS settings it remains like that..
[10:20] <hsr>  For knetworkmanager in terminal, i am getting following output- QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Monolithic::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() - Please help.....
[10:21] <ddavids> falmog: yep, check synaptic...
[10:21] <falmog> okay so ---- gstreamer, vls, and search for avi codec.
[10:21] <S4ry> hsr, easy .. people here are Volunteers
[10:21] <branden792> *VLC, but yes that is correct
[10:21] <elundril> im currently trying to find my Audio-Chipset, but "zless /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz" and "zless /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz" wont work. What to do now?
[10:21] <akaruz> S4ry,  here ps aux
[10:21] <akaruz> * Anzor (~anzor_qas@85.173.124.252) has joined #ubuntu
 pfifo... to begin with my linux is on /dev/mapper/pdc_bcdhdijdf
[10:21] <falmog> vlc yes lol.
[10:21] <hsr>  For knetworkmanager in terminal, i am getting following output- QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Monolithic::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() - Please help.....
[10:22] <akaruz> S4ry,  here akaruz    1760 61.6  5.3 475752 109808 ?       Sl   11:44  96:22 /usr/lib/chromi
[10:22] <akaruz> S4ry, 61%.... ()(
[10:22] <pfifo> joljam, go back into your CMOS and check that you actually saved the settings.
[10:22] <joljam> ok
[10:22] <ddavids> falmog: go to synaptic package manager and check if ubuntu-restricted-extras is installed, if no, the install, if yes, try installing and using vlc and report back
[10:22] <falmog> ddavids and branden: thank you
[10:23] <falmog> ddavids: okay ill be right back then
[10:23] <branden792> Your welcome! Good Luck :)
[10:23] <S4ry> akaruz, so , chromi is  spiking
[10:23]  * falmog is a happyman
[10:23] <falmog> lol
[10:23]  * falmog cant wait to watch topgun
[10:23] <elundril> im currently trying to find my Audio-Chipset, but "zless /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz" and "zless /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz" wont work. What to do now? Can anyone help me?
[10:23] <S4ry> Guys ,
[10:23] <S4ry> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinypic.com/
[10:25] <q_a_z_steve> hey. web server issues: what user is default to view pages when you run httpd?
[10:25] <hsr>  For knetworkmanager in terminal, i am getting following output- QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Monolithic::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() - Please help.....
[10:25] <pfifo> q_a_z_steve, should be 'apache' with uid of 25 or 99
[10:25] <q_a_z_steve> what about 48?
[10:26] <joljam> pfifo... yes the settings were saved
[10:26] <hsr>  For knetworkmanager in terminal, i am getting following output- QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Monolithic::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() - Please help.....
[10:26] <kryl> hi
[10:26] <pfifo> joljam, what happens if you run 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[10:26] <kryl> is there a virtualized project hosted on cluster environment ?
[10:27] <joljam> pfifo I will boot from live cd again to try that out
[10:27] <pfifo> q_a_z_steve, its possible, the nuber dosent really matter, but it should run as apache, you can  'cat /etc/passwd' to find the uid of apache
[10:27] <akaruz> S4ry,  so what browser u advice  ? :D
[10:29] <q_a_z_steve> pfifo: well the question actually might still be unresolved. I don't know whether my system would have had apache installed if it weren't for my CRM. httpd != apache. Right?
[10:29] <S4ry> akaruz, Chromium works fine for me , although i prefer FF
[10:29] <akaruz> S4ry, so what should i do ? :( i wan't to use chromium but it uses much % from pc
[10:29] <S4ry> akaruz, have you used Chromium ..
[10:29] <pfifo> q_a_z_steve, there are other http daemons available, which one did you install?
[10:30] <baltazor> Hello , where I can find and download driver for MegaRAID 9240-4i for ubuntu 10.04 ? In official site I can download driver only ubuntu 9.10 :(
[10:30] <akaruz> S4ry, im also using chromium... and it using 60%+ from my pc
[10:30] <akaruz> S4ry, how to fix it?
[10:30] <S4ry> akaruz, lets see
[10:31] <Kingsy101> ok this is annoying me slightly.. why is it that in the GUI I don't have permission to copy files around?
[10:31] <Kingsy101> do you need to use the terminal?
[10:31] <S4ry> akaruz, please jump to #Chromium
[10:32] <pepe> Bonjour à tous
[10:32] <S4ry> type /join #Chromium
[10:32] <joljam> pfifo it says " unable to see on /dev/sda
[10:32] <S4ry> pepe, OUI , English please :)
[10:32] <joljam> pfifo it says " unable to seek on /dev/sda
[10:33] <pepe> 1 petit question , est ce que je peux sauvegarder les commande que j'ai mit dans le terminal ?
[10:33] <linux_inferno> HELLO HUMANS
[10:33] <fep> i have 6gig ram and 640 gig hd, how big should my swap space be? i chose 6300mb of swap, but ubuntu wont start, freeze at the bootup. and before that i had 300mb swap space, and it was too lottle to hibernate. so when i install for the third time, what should i do?
[10:33] <S4ry> Hey Human
[10:34] <pfifo> joljam, that is weird, try going into the CMOS and where it said SATA, change it to disabled. It seems that that would turn off SATA support, but perhaps its refering to SATA RAID support
[10:34] <pepe> vous savais les commande enregistrer et qu on fait délireravec les fleche pour refaire une commande , j'aimerai toutes les avoir par écris !
[10:34] <pfifo> fep, 0 bytes
[10:34] <fep> pfifo: what do you mean?
[10:34] <pepe> S4ry, tu a 1 idée ? :)
[10:35] <linux_inferno> Fep I use double the system memory for swap. But that might be overkill for you. try a couple gigs
[10:35] <pepe> S4ry, tu a 1 idée ?
[10:35] <pfifo> fep,  i mean dont use swap, you have 6gb of ram
[10:35] <S4ry> pepe, You mean sudo ! .. what command you're looking for
[10:35] <haux> Ok, tonight I upgraded to 10.10. gdm will not load. startx yields some warning about the nvidia video card driver, and other errors such as "Fatal server error: no screens found." And... "xinit: no such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server
[10:35] <pepe> sorry , fr , bey
[10:36] <haux> Should I try to sudo apt-get install gdm?
[10:36] <fep> pfifo: are you sure? what about hibernate?
[10:36] <fep> linux_inferno: so 2 gig should be enough? why is it freezing with 6 gig`?
[10:36] <q_a_z_steve> pfifo: let me ask this instead. chown apache:apache is that dangerous at all?
[10:36] <S4ry> haux, did you active you're nvidia card
[10:37] <pfifo> fep, hibernat shouldnt use swap but rather a file on your harddrive, but im not 100% sure of that
[10:37] <haux> S4ry: how do I do that in command mode?
[10:37] <pfifo> q_a_z_steve, no you can always change it back later, do a ls -l to see who owns the files now
[10:37] <haux> I can follow instructions, but I'm not very proficient in a non GUI environment
[10:37] <S4ry> haux, go to system - Admin - Additional Drivers
[10:37] <dabukalam> Hi I've just switched out the motherboard on my laptop, and when turning it on, it gives me "Unable to Mount Filesystem". Yet, "ls /" shows the contents on my HDD, what's gone wrong?
[10:38] <haux> S4ry: x will not load
[10:38] <haux> S4ry: command prompt only
[10:38] <S4ry> O'
[10:38] <haux> ><
[10:38] <haux> yeah
[10:38] <linux_inferno> Fep 2-6 GB should be enough. I can't say for sure why it's freezing.
[10:38] <q_a_z_steve> pfifo: I don't know who owned it originally. I did too much as root, then I used a 1000 uid user to test...
[10:38] <haux> Everything worked fine before the upgrade.
[10:39] <pfifo> q_a_z_steve, no matter who owns it, root can always change to another user, so its safe to ply with file ownership, its not like your going to lock yourself out
[10:40] <S4ry> haux, did ya try the command .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure --p high xserver-xorg
[10:40] <q_a_z_steve> pfifo: right, but I want to set this and forget it... ;)
[10:41] <DeFi> can anyone help me figure out why audio isnt outputting on a server installation insite VirtualBox? I've installed alsa and alsa-util
[10:41] <DeFi> inside*
[10:41] <haux> S4ry: I have not.
[10:41] <erdnase> Good day. I have a problem with my external hard drive. When I plug it, ubuntu doesn't make a shortcut of the drive on the desktop. Same thing for my mouse, if I plug it after ubuntu boots, it doesn't work. I have to plug it before i boot ubuntu. Any solutions?
[10:41] <haux> S4ry: I have only tried "sudo service gdm start" which lead to the errors
[10:42] <pfifo> q_a_z_steve, do a 'ps aux' and look for the httpd process, then look at the user who is running the process. then chmod all files and directories in you wwwroot to that user
[10:42] <haux> S4ry: if that does not work, is there anything else I can try?
[10:42] <haux> S4ry: is sudo apt-get install gdm worth a try?
[10:42] <haux> In case there's an issue with it
[10:43] <linux_inferno> HELP! - I am trying to run a program (Autodesk Maya 2011 Hotfix 3)  when I go to launch I get an "error loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6"   I tried softlinking /usr/lib32/libXp.so.6 but then I get the error "wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" Am I missing something? is there a 64bit version of libXp.so.6?
[10:43] <S4ry> haux, it may
[10:43] <haux> Alriiight, back I go.
[10:44] <falmog> ddavids: is it the FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer (debug symbols)
[10:44] <pfifo> linux_inferno, it looks like you need a 64bit version of libXp thats for sure.
[10:44] <S4ry> linux_inferno, have ya looked for that bug on launchpad ..
[10:44]  * erdnase dance
[10:44] <S4ry> I mean related to that program ..
[10:45] <ddavids> falmog: in the search box type in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:45] <ddavids> falmog: check if it's there?
[10:45] <ddavids> falmog: is it?
[10:45] <linux_inferno> pfifo Thats what it seems with the ELFCLASS32 error. Next Step?
[10:46] <linux_inferno> S4ry I've been at this for like 4 hours
[10:46] <falmog> ddavids: yes (unchecked)
[10:47] <ddavids> falmog: check and install that
[10:47] <pfifo> linux_inferno, well, the logical next step is to install a 64bit version of that library and its dependacies. if you cant find a package for them there is alwys the old fasioned way
[10:47] <ddavids> falmog: once installed, try ur video again and report back
[10:47] <falmog> ddavids: roger that
[10:47] <falmog> installing
[10:48] <S4ry> linux_inferno, thats way to much !
[10:48] <ddavids> falmog: so far so good then
[10:48] <linux_inferno> pfifo Yea. I need to find the proper library....
[10:49] <falmog> ddavids: yea lookin good so far...
[10:49] <linux_inferno> S4ry yea man, eyes are starting to haze over...
[10:50] <S4ry> if thats so , give it a rest
[10:51] <linux_inferno> S4ry I'm determined to start a render before I go to sleep
[10:51] <pfifo> linux_inferno, isnt there a 32bit version of maya? that seems like it would be the easy route
[10:52] <fep> when i added 2 gig swap, i also got an dva2 extended partition with same size, why?
[10:52] <fep> dev2 even
[10:53] <linux_inferno> pfifo I fixed it...
[10:53] <fep> sd2 i mean, sorry
[10:53] <umc> guys, besides installing samba and sharing a folder, do I need to do anything to be able to map a network drive in windows 7 to access my home folder ? I did these steps, I can see my share in the network, but I can't figure out what users to use. I'm trying my ubuntu user and password and it won't accept it
[10:53] <pfifo> fep, a swap PARTITON is a PARTITON on your harddrive
[10:53] <logan_wolf> umc, I don't think samba works well for win 7
[10:54] <umc> it worked before I installed ubuntu. I had mandriva before and I could access my shared folder without problems
[10:54] <umc> but there I have set up the share with some gui, not like here
[10:54] <umc> there I had to add a user and password
[10:54] <pfifo> umc you need to set user/pass using smbpasswd
[10:54] <linux_inferno> S4ry pfifo - I hate myself... sudo apt-get install libxp6 did it... i didn't see the libxp6 package before because i was trying to autocomplete libX.... and blah blah blah case sensative eat a chode-sicle
[10:54] <fep> pfifo: yes, and i gparted i have one swap (2gig), the main system partition (150gig) and some unalocated free partition, BUT i also got an extended partition (2gig) wich i didnt make, why ?
[10:56] <falmog> ddavids: installed successfully. i played movie but it suggests to search for a plugin
[10:56] <umc> pfifo: ever encountered this ? http://pastebin.com/j6LeQmhf
[10:56] <pfifo> fep it sounds like you chose to create your swap partition as a logical drive in the extended partion but you were expecting to create your swap partition as a primary partition
[10:56] <fep> i should have unallocated, system partition and swap partition, not an extra extended partiton too
[10:56] <fep> oh, ok
[10:56] <dabukalam> Hi I've just switched out the motherboard on my laptop, and when turning it on, it gives me "Unable to Mount Filesystem". Yet, "ls /" shows the contents on my HDD, what's gone wrong?
[10:56] <pfifo> umc run smbpasswd as root by using sudo
[10:57] <fep> pfifo: what should swap partition be? ext or prim?
[10:57] <pfifo> fep either way will work, depends on your setup, if you only want 2 partitions then both as primary should be optimal
[10:57] <umc> pfifo: indeed, that doesn't error out, except that it says it can't find an entry for my user. so it's not the system user... I guess I need to create it somehow...
[10:58] <fep> pfifo: i see, and someone says i should have the same as my ram, someone say the double, and some say no swap at all... what is the standard?
[10:58] <fep> when i have 6gig ram
[10:58] <umc> smbpasswd -a user. got it :)
[10:58] <pfifo> umc, you were trying to set the password for root, you need to supply smbpasswd with the username you want to change the password for, read the help file for smbpassword to get a better idea of how the system works
[10:59] <umc> pfifo: I did smbpasswd umc
[10:59] <umc> but samba didn't have that user
[10:59] <umc> but I googled that I had to add it first with smbpasswd -a umc
[11:00] <umc> now all works, even from windows 7
[11:00] <umc> thanks for the tips
[11:00] <skumara> i have a bug (i think). My sound system was working well until just now when i start my pc i get no sound. when i open gnome-volume-control from terminal i get this error ** (gnome-volume-control:3280): WARNING **: Default sink stream not found. In the volume control i see my hardware internal audio but in output tab i dont see this hardware!!
[11:00] <pfifo> fep, well double is the standard, the way pages work you need to have double or more for it to be completly effective, but in your case with 6gb of memory, you will probbaly never use swap unless your running some serious server daemons
[11:00] <pfifo> umc, enjoy
[11:00] <fep> sorry guys, i need an answer. what should the swap partition be? extended or primary?
[11:01] <rww> fep: doesn't matter whether it's extended or primary
[11:01] <pfifo> fep, go logical in your extended partition if you are unsure
[11:01] <haux> S4ry: I have been able to boot into failsafeX
[11:01] <haux> S4ry: http://pastebin.com/4tCe01WV
[11:01] <haux> S4ry: The command you provided me did not do anything.
[11:01] <fep> ok, thanx
[11:02] <pie_time> hello!
[11:02] <pie_time> where can i find dictionary sources to add to the dictionary panel?
[11:02] <skumara> !hi | pie_time
[11:02] <skumara> !dictionary
[11:03] <skumara> anyone expert in audio system here?
[11:03] <pie_time> !dict
[11:04] <pie_time> !ubottu
[11:04] <jozef> cześć
[11:04] <pie_time> !pl | jozef
[11:05] <pie_time> !cz | jozef
[11:05] <pie_time> oops
[11:05] <pie_time> lol
[11:06] <pfifo> what is #ubuntu-en
[11:07] <harrz> I've running Lucid-Server 64bit, installed on a USB stick. It works well but after 3-4 days I got this message appears repetitive on console EXT3-fs error (device sdb1): ext3_find_entry: reading directory #2 offset 0 (sdb1 contains the root-fs)
[11:07] <harrz> Open services are still running (iscsi-target is still responding, ping the server works) but i can't logon until next reboot (neither ssh or the console).
[11:07] <harrz> The USB-stick seems to be in suspend mode...How can I prevent this?
[11:07] <q_a_z_steve> get a real hard drive?
[11:07] <xeviox> how can I mount a samba share which contains a "#" in the password?
[11:07] <xeviox> I've tried
[11:07] <Slyerfox> hey peeps i cant seem to boot ubuntu on a toshiba satellite 1130 just blank screen after ubuntu logo and red loading dots also used i915.modeset=1 and does not boot ? has anyone got the skills here to help me ?
[11:08] <xeviox> mount ... -o "user=....;password=...." .... but it didn't work
[11:08] <linux_inferno> xeviox = xevious?
[11:08] <pfifo> harrz, Im pretty sure there is a mount option for that, something like noatime or async, but itll fry your stick alot quicker than usual, review the mount manpage for all the possible options
[11:08] <xeviox> linux_inferno: nope
[11:09] <linux_inferno> xeviox - There is no way around that issue. Can't use @ either I don't think
[11:09] <xeviox> I also tried "mount ... -o user=...;password... ... but that didn't work, too
[11:09] <skumara> problem solved by google and ubuntu sound troubleshooter. just reload alsa... bye.
[11:09] <Name141> is FGLRX the best ATi driver for the 4670?
[11:10] <linux_inferno> xeviox I think it has to do with the fact that samba has to translate characters to windows
[11:10] <xeviox> linux_inferno: oh, so there can't be an "#" in the password? Can I use a variable to set it up?
[11:10] <Name141> or is there one that would provide better 3D support?
[11:10] <skumara> Name141, FGLRX works fine in ATI 4500.
[11:10] <pfifo> xeviox, no, you simply have to escape the # on the command line
[11:10] <linux_inferno> xeviox what do you mean use a variable to set it up
[11:10] <Name141> skumara, I tried Half-life2 on wine, and it was choppy
[11:10] <xeviox> linux_inferno: the password itself works without problem, if I use just "-o user=..." it asks me for the password and everything works fine ..
[11:10] <pie_time> where can i find dictionary sources to add to the dictionary panel?
[11:11] <pfifo> xeviox, mount -o user=xev;pass=pass\#word
[11:11] <skumara> Name141, sorry i'm not a gamer.
[11:11] <xeviox> pfifo: I also tried that, didn't work :(
[11:11] <linux_inferno> Name141 hehe I was in your boat... Have fun!
[11:11] <linux_inferno> Name141 I got tf2 working
[11:12] <Name141> linux_inferno, how so?  I think I might have to stick to XP
[11:12] <linux_inferno> ewwwww xp
[11:12] <Name141> and you'd rather run that total pile of junk they call 7?
[11:12] <skumara> pie_time, dict sourcers. hope this help u http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544152
[11:12] <pfifo> xeviox, are you using a colon or semicolon? its supposed to be a colon
[11:13] <linux_inferno> No I'd rather run ubuntu jeez
[11:13] <Name141> OK .  So how did you fix it?
[11:13] <xeviox> pfifo: ah ok, that might be the error I'm using semicolons, I'll give it a try, thanks ;)
[11:14] <linux_inferno> but win7 does a good job.  Oh, mine wasn't choppy, I have dual quad xeons, 24gb of ram, and 2 gtx 470 cards
[11:14] <pfifo> semi colon is a line seprator and pound is the start of a comment
[11:14] <zetheroo1> I hope Gnome-shell is not going to be in 10.10 .... :P
[11:14] <Name141> linux_inferno, I didn't mean choppy as in FPS.. I meant choppy as in something didn't look like it displayed properly
[11:14] <xeviox> pfifo: ah damn, you're right ^^ THANKS
[11:14] <pfifo> xeviox, np
[11:14] <linux_inferno> Name141 like what?
[11:14] <Name141> and I'm not sure what a nVidia has to do with ATi
[11:15] <linux_inferno> Name141 like video corruption?
[11:15] <Name141> linux_inferno, I guess.  It didn't display the Gman right
[11:15] <Name141> was flashing more than anything
[11:15] <linux_inferno> Hmmm... I'll dig around
[11:17] <guniata> hi guys
[11:17] <guniata> can i get some help with some X problems?
[11:17] <pfifo> !ask
[11:17] <guniata> hi eyal
[11:17] <eyalw> guniata: hi
[11:18] <guniata> ok, sorry
[11:18] <guniata> im a noob
[11:18] <eyalw> guniata: start typing a user name, then tab to complete, to send me a direct msg
[11:18] <Name141> linux_inferno, the people in winehq look dead
[11:19] <yeastwars> what process handles volumeup/volumedown keyboard events? I'd like to give it higher priority so I can actually control the volume even when firefox decides to go haywire and eat 99% of the cpu.
[11:19] <pfifo> yeastwars, gdm i believe
[11:20] <guniata> I connected my laptop to an external screen, and then shut the laptop down when i was done. next morning i tried to boot it up, and it did, but it wasn't responsive at all
[11:20] <guniata> i can't do anything at all
[11:21] <pfifo> guniata, what do you mean by unresponsive?
[11:21] <guniata> i can move the mouse, but that's it. clicking is useless
[11:22] <q_a_z_steve> sad
[11:22] <guniata> ^X
[11:22] <pfifo> guniata, so, you have a picture and everything just your input dosent work?
[11:22] <guniata> yes, keyboard and mouse
[11:23] <guniata> i just can't do anything
[11:23] <ryty> are they bluetooth?
[11:23] <ryty> or, wireless?
[11:23] <pfifo> guniata, did you do anything to configure your external monitor?
[11:24] <guniata> not wireless
[11:24] <guniata> did configured using the nvidia inteface
[11:24] <pfifo> guniata, did you choose to overwrite you xorg.conf
[11:25] <guniata> i'm preety sure i didn't
[11:25] <guniata> no, im sure
[11:25] <ddavids> falmog: now that is established, try and get vlc
[11:25] <pfifo> can you use ctl+alt+F2 to get to a tty?
[11:25] <pfifo> guniata, can you use ctl+alt+F2 to get to a tty?
[11:25] <guniata> what is a tty?
[11:26] <ddavids> if vlc doenst play ur video, then you should get a refund,lol
[11:26] <guniata> i did ctrl+alt+f1 and tried to restart my X
[11:26] <pfifo> guniata, tty is a terminal, press ctl+alt+F2 and see if it works
[11:27] <pLr> pfifo, yes
[11:27] <guniata> but then i wouldn't be able to talk to you guys...
[11:28] <pfifo> guniata, no, on your laptop you want to goto a terminal, im assuming your not talking to us on your laptop due to keyboard dosent work
[11:28] <pfifo> pLr, what?
[11:28] <guniata> i am talking with u using the laptop
[11:28] <guniata> i am able to get to a tty
[11:28] <pLr> pfifo, i think u were talking to guniata nvm
[11:29] <ddavids> falmog: u there?
[11:29] <guniata> and i did, and i tried to restart my X using: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <pfifo> guniata, ok I am confised, you are able to type in the chatroom using a keyboard and mouse that do not work?
[11:30] <guniata> no - they don't work when i am in GNOME
[11:30] <guniata> i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and i got to the tty
[11:30] <pfifo> so your using irssi or another command line client then, ok
[11:30] <guniata> and then i installed irssi, and then i could talk to u
[11:31] <pfifo> guniata, dose the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist on your system?
[11:31] <guniata> when i'm in GNOME - i can't do anything but getting to a tty with ctrl+alt+f1
[11:31] <guniata> i think so
[11:31] <pfifo> guniata, check now to be sure
[11:32] <guniata> how do i do that? i need to exit this chat somhow, and then do what?
[11:32] <kpkarl> guniata: you can use ctrl+alt+f2
[11:32] <pfifo> guniata, press ctl+alt+f2 to switch to tty2 and when your finishe press ctl+al+f1 to switch back to the chat on tty1
[11:33] <guniata> ok, great
[11:33] <guniata> how to check if it exist??
[11:34] <pfifo> guniata, ls /etc/X11 and see if its listed
[11:34] <guniata> ok
[11:35] <guniata> i have xorg.conf & xorg.conf.failsafe
[11:36] <pfifo> guniata, copy those files somewhere safe and remove them from that directory DO NOT copy them to your home folder (put it in a subdirectory of your home folder)
[11:36] <adi11> hi all. i have a 8 gb mp3 player but ubuntu lucid cant recognized when i connect it with a mini usb to usb. any help please
[11:36] <adi11> thanks
[11:36] <guniata> how do i do that??
[11:37] <guniata> cp somthing?
[11:37] <pfifo> guniata, try this instead 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/old-xorg.conf'
[11:38] <kpkarl> adi11: what brand mp3 player?
[11:38] <adi11> mediacom me-mp3800g
[11:39] <adi11> here: http://www.youbuy.it/ipod-e-lettori-mp3--mp4--mp5/lettori-mp3--mp4--mp5/lettore-mp3-wma-8gb-mediacom-audiokey-nero-rosa-mp3-special-p7578.htm
[11:39] <guniata> and now what??
[11:39] <pfifo> guniata, double check to ensure that you do not have a file name xorg.conf in you /etc/X11 directory, once you have confirmed this reboot your computer
[11:40] <kpkarl> adi11: do you see a setting somewhere on the player for the USB connection type?
[11:40] <guniata> ok
[11:40] <adi11> kpkarl | it does not appear on nautilus or rythmbox
[11:40] <adi11> let me see
[11:40] <kpkarl> adi11: I meant on the player itself
[11:41] <guniata> it's ok to have the "OLd" files, right??
[11:41] <adi11> no it does not have anything like that
[11:42] <pfifo> guniata, yes it wont even look at that
[11:42] <guniata> ok
[11:42] <guniata> restaring now
[11:42] <kpkarl> adi11: alright, does this player recognize in Windows?
[11:43] <comicinker> hi, is there a program to execute planned tasks and/or reminds me of appointments? cron is for root, evolution is way too heavy. Is there a reminder software somewhere?
[11:43] <pfifo> comicinker, i believe you can do that with the calender app, double click the time
[11:44] <pl18> could I divide current partition into several partions with smaller sizes? Of course I can't reinstall Ubuntu. I have only one partition
[11:44] <pfifo> comicinker, n/m that is technically evolution
[11:44] <comicinker> pfifo: not in gnome
[11:44] <filoxb> hello boys
[11:44] <adi11> kpkarl | it so strange cause it says on the website i google that support all win macs and linux 2.4
[11:45] <filoxb> i need an help please: is there a way with iptables or similar to do this: an host A contact host B and B put the connection to C    (so A contact C)
[11:45] <adi11> i dont have a win OS and never tried before
[11:45] <kpkarl> adi11: I know, I saw that part. I was wondering if maybe it was something with the player (e.g. needed a new battery, etc)
[11:46] <pfifo> filoxb, yes you can do masquerading from an external to an external connection
[11:46] <adi11> kpkarl | someone gave it to me cause i wanted to use it like a track to move files and floder from one pc to another
[11:46] <adi11> its about 8 gb
[11:46]  * dddw off for today
[11:46] <filoxb> pfifo could u make me an example?
[11:46] <kpkarl> adi11: do you have gparted installed on your computer?
[11:47] <adi11> as i rember i have a disk utility...is taht it?
[11:47] <kpkarl> no, but try opening that. Can you see an entry for your player in there?
[11:48] <adi11> i did but no it dows not show in hee
[11:48] <adi11> here
[11:48] <pfifo> filoxb, i could if I had enough computers to do that, but alas, i do not, but its prettyy simple, just google for an iptables NAT?Masquerading script and instead of using an internal to external, make them both on the external interface.
[11:49] <filoxb> pfifo thanks i try
[11:49] <pfifo> filoxb, however, if you can explain what your actually doing the may be a better way todo it
[11:49] <kpkarl> adi11, alright, just a moment
[11:49] <adi11> ok thanks
[11:51] <kpkarl> adi11: ok, so can you plug in your player can then run  lsusb   in a terminal?
[11:51] <adi11> kpkarl | the player itself playes song ok with a a AAA battery or without a batter when connected from mini usb to a usb port via cable
[11:51] <adi11> let me try
[11:52] <pfifo> i wonder if guniata got it to work or if hes stuck with no way to communicate
[11:53] <adi11> kpkarl | http://paste.ubuntu.com/486696/
[11:54] <awk> hi, I want to rdesktop to a windows box, what package can I use?
[11:55] <ectospasm> awk: terminal server client (Applications/Internet/...)
[11:55] <kpkarl> adi11 | ok, can you try running   sudo lsusb   and see if anything changes?
[11:55] <adi11> ok
[11:56] <comicinker> I found a planer application: gnome-schedule. well that question was trivial
[11:56] <_mrn_ver_> hi all ,can anyone please tell me the name of channel on c language discussion?
[11:56] <adi11> no nothing changes. tha output is the same.
[11:56] <ectospasm> _mrn_ver_: have you tried #c?
[11:56] <DexterF_> hi
[11:57] <adi11> i think i am missing some libs probably
[11:57] <pfifo> _mrn_ver_, i always ask in #gcc cause the guys at #c and #c++ can be real jerks at times
[11:57] <adi11> what libs might them be
[11:57] <DexterF_> got an HP CP1215 color laser attached by USB to a 9.04 machine. it sees the printer, it's all configured but all print jobs stop with "stopped at: novalue"
[11:57] <kpkarl> adi11: usually that's not the case
[11:57] <DexterF_> what's going on here?
[11:57] <_mrn_ver_> thank you guys i got  #gcc
[11:58] <kpkarl> adi11: it looks like your player isn't being seen as connected
[11:58] <adi11> what if i change usb port
[11:58] <S4ry> DexterF_, this the Ubuntu main support channel
[11:58] <kpkarl> adi11: you could try that
[11:59] <DexterF_> S4ry: captain obvious!
[11:59] <bazhang> DexterF_, what does linuxprinting.org say about the drivers for that
[11:59] <pfifo> S4ry, i lold hard
[11:59] <DexterF_> bazhang: "mostly supported", it's even listed in cups so I'd expect it to work at least to the degree that it prints something
[12:00] <S4ry> Hum ! :)
[12:00] <erdnase> Excuse me, what folders do I need to backup when I want to format my laptop? They said I only need to copy everything in home; will that include the installed programs though?
[12:00] <S4ry> !seen bazhang
[12:00] <S4ry> O'
[12:00] <ectospasm> DexterF_: you should look into HPLIP (HP Linux Imaging and Printing) drivers, my (brand new) HP OfficeJet 6500 just... works...!
[12:00] <adi11> kpkarl | nothing hapend
[12:01] <fodder70> ive caused a issue, i logged out and chose KDE, now it boots to a blank screen, how can i get gnome to boot plz
[12:01] <bazhang> S4ry, stop that
[12:01] <bazhang> DexterF_, just checking the forums now, hang on a second
[12:01] <kpkarl> adi11: ok. ubuntu comes with all the drivers and libraries needed to connect an mp3 player. Could you try a different usb cable?
[12:02] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7674417 DexterF_ seen this?
[12:02] <adi11> kpkarl | i dont have another usb cable :(
[12:03] <S4ry> bazhang, that what ! i was looking for ya
[12:03] <cfs_> !list
[12:03] <bazhang> !it | cfs_
[12:03] <pfifo> adi11, perhaps you mp3 player has a mode for when you want to connect to USB, i have todo that with my PSP and until I do, it looks like its unplugged
[12:04] <jeepersz> how do I connect to the internet in ubuntu with dialup?
[12:04] <bazhang> !dialup > jeepersz
[12:04] <adac> How can I add some jars to the classpath?
[12:04] <DexterF_> bazhang: worth a shot if all else fails, but have to go right now. thanks anyway
[12:04] <kpkarl> adi11: ok. unless there is a USB mode on the player itself, I'm not sure what it could be. If you ask someone else, im sure you'll find someone who will know what to do :)
[12:05] <cfs_> adobe illustrator
[12:05] <zyx> hello! Ican't see any timelines in Gwibber 2.30.1 . Does anyone else have this progblem?
[12:05] <adi11> pfifo | i have checked the menu several times for a sub mode
[12:05] <adi11> i will try to look again :)
[12:05] <bazhang> cfs_, wrong channel, no file sharing here
[12:05] <jeepersz> how am I supposed to get the stuff to connect with a modem if I need the internet to get it? That's stupid
[12:05] <pfifo> adi11, unplug the device, wait a few seconds, and then plug it back in, wait a few more seconds andf then pastebin the output of 'dmesg'
[12:05] <astutillo> hi everybody I own an internet key, huawei e1800 and I have issues to make it work properly on ubuntu. I copy the installation files from the key, as the installer has no execution permit, then I launch the install program that apparently completes its work just fine. The thing is I can browse only if I launch (for instance) firefox with sudo, otherwise my pc seems not to be connected. can anyone please help me figuring out what the pro
[12:05] <astutillo> blem is?
[12:06] <S4ry> cfs_, you can jump to #adobe
[12:06] <adi11> ok pfifo
[12:06] <oliizme> Hi guys, I just bought A sony Saio laptop model : vpcf120fd , and the touchpad doenst work anyone can help me?
[12:06] <bazhang> S4ry, he's asking for warez(file sharing) there is none on this network
[12:07] <S4ry> Ah , though it's about adobe
[12:07] <pfifo> cfs_ try inkscape, its free and very powerful
[12:07] <adi11> pfifo | do you want me to turn on the device after i connect?
[12:07] <jeepersz> ubuntu is pretty much worthless for anyone with dialup
[12:08] <pfifo> adi11, yes
[12:08] <pfifo> jeepersz, thats not true, linux practically invented dialup
[12:09] <jeepersz> I can't download all the dumb stuff it says because I don't have an internet connection to do it
[12:09] <arunkumar413> hi friends
[12:10] <pfifo> jeepersz, yes that can be a problem, download from elsewhere and then copy them to your computer
[12:10] <jrib> jeepersz: how are you here now?
[12:10] <jeepersz> jrib: windows
[12:10] <jrib> jeepersz: that's fine, use that
[12:10] <jeepersz> those programs don't work in windows
[12:10] <jeepersz> I can't look at the website in ubuntu, either
[12:10] <jrib> jeepersz: what programs?  Don't you just need some debs.
[12:11] <jeepersz> It looks like i have to compile drivers
[12:11] <jeepersz> and identify my modem
[12:11] <jeepersz> and blah blah blah
[12:11] <HeTaL> Well, you didn't pay for it. If you don't like it, don't use it.
[12:11] <jrib> jeepersz: well that's what you need to do.  It's possible, just seems like you don't want to do it.  Which is fine, you don't have to
[12:12] <jeepersz> I also didn't like the install. It was resizing my partitions before I even knew what it was up to. It could have said that was what I was agreeing to
[12:12] <erdnase> jeepersz, it took me 3days just to connect through my wlan. linux isn't windows.
[12:12] <adi11> pfifo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/486706/
[12:12] <jrib> jeepersz: it doesn't resize partitions unless you tell it to
[12:13] <erdnase> jeepersz, ubuntu actually tells you everything.
[12:13] <Stefanos90> how does it slap?
[12:13] <jeepersz> jrib: I clicked on "install side by side" and the next thing I knew, it was resizing partitions and making new ones
[12:13] <erdnase> jeepersz, you should've read everything in there.
[12:14] <HeTaL> jeepersz: There is a bar there that you can slide to choose partition sizes.
[12:14] <HeTaL> This is linux, not OSX.
[12:14] <HeTaL> Albeit userfriendly, not idiot friendly.
[12:14] <bazhang> HeTaL, that's uncalled for
[12:14] <pfifo> adi11, it looks like your missing a huge portion of your dmesg, try this instead "dmesg|tail -n100"
[12:14] <jeepersz> it's just retarded. I could use a real partition manager just fine, but it's dumbed down to the point of being obtuse
[12:14] <adi11> ok thanks
[12:15] <HeTaL> bazhang: Did I say somethign wrong?
[12:15] <jrib> jeepersz: I always thought the install was fairly explicit but if you think it should warn you more, file a bug
[12:15] <bazhang> HeTaL, the part about idiot
[12:15] <jeepersz> and then grub wouldn't install. That failed. So now i have ubuntu on a partition I can't boot to, and if I do, dialup doesn't work
[12:15] <jeepersz> yay, ubuntu!
[12:15] <jrib> jeepersz: so what do you want help with now?  You seem to be going all over the p lace
[12:15] <HeTaL> bazhang: I understand. Just showing the difference between user-side interactions.
[12:15] <erdnase> jeepersz, Jeep this isn't windows.
[12:16] <adi11> pfifo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/486707/
[12:16] <jeepersz> erdnase: clearly. Windows isn't such a terrible mess ;)
[12:16] <erdnase> jeepersz, so why did you try ubuntu in the first placE?
[12:16] <HeTaL> jeepersz: If you don't like it, don't use it.
[12:16] <kpkarl> jeepersz: because Ubuntu is a separate operating system, it is not possible to install it inside your windows partition
[12:16] <bazhang> kpkarl, sure it is. using wubi
[12:17] <jrib> kpkarl: you can with wubi
[12:17] <HeTaL> kpkarl: you can
[12:17] <hiexpo> just got my twitter back working in pidgin what a pain
[12:17] <pfifo> thats weird, dmesg isnt working like I expected it to, i guess it changed in 10.04
[12:17] <aeon-ltd> vm
[12:17] <kpkarl> bazhang: I meant the actually system files
[12:17] <kpkarl> *actual
[12:18] <jeepersz> erdnase: I didn't know, going into it, that it would resize my partitions when I clicked "install side by side" I didn't expect it to fail at installing grub, and I thought that it was pretty obvious to include things like dialup drivers
[12:19] <pfifo> adi11, try 'sudo blkid' and 'sudo fdisk -l' paste that
[12:19] <HeTaL> bazhang: I think now my comment sounds in place.
[12:19] <erdnase> jeepersz, try going through the installation process again. I'm positive that you can see that ubuntu is goin to resize your partition.
[12:19] <kpkarl> jeepersz: I'm sorry you're having trouble with Ubuntu, may I recommend you try installing inside a virtual machine next time
[12:19] <bazhang> HeTaL, no it is never in place here. lets move on.
[12:20] <adi11> this are two difrentt  commands or just one?
[12:20] <pfifo> adi11, 2 different commands
[12:20] <adi11> root@adi-desktop:~# sudo blkid
[12:20] <adi11> /dev/sda1: UUID="fdc8a3f0-b51b-452c-8928-ec84ef5f97b0" TYPE="ext4"
[12:20] <adi11> /dev/sda5: UUID="79a80956-4fe0-43da-bfd8-860820ff9021" TYPE="swap"
[12:20] <erdnase> Gtg, dinner.
[12:21] <jeepersz> so why did grub fail?
[12:21] <adi11> pfifo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/486709/
[12:22] <adi11> pfifo | i think i have two swap partitions. am i right?
[12:22] <kpkarl> jeepersz: how were you installing Ubuntu? via Wubi.exe or cd or usb?
[12:22] <jeepersz> kpkarl: cd
[12:23] <LXCC-Vincenzo> hi all , i want take a byte from a file (not-textfile), using bash, anyone can help me?
[12:23] <adi11> pfifo | i think i forgot to delete the old swap :)
[12:23] <pfifo> adi11, it definatly looks like this device is not using the standard usb flash drive setup. You said that this thing said its compatable with linux, did it come with a CD?
[12:23] <kpkarl> jeepersz: did you get an error message?
[12:23] <jrib> LXCC-Vincenzo: try #bash
[12:23] <pfifo> adi11, no you have a extended partition and inside that partition you have a logical partition with a swap filesystem on it
[12:23] <jeepersz> kpkarl: Something vague about the grub pkg fialing to install
[12:24] <jeepersz> failing, even
[12:24] <LXCC-Vincenzo> ok,ty jrib
[12:24] <adi11> pfifo | yes i google it and every where says its compatible with wins macs and linux 2.4
[12:24] <pfifo> adi11, yeah, but did it come with a CD?
[12:25] <adi11> no cause some gave it to me to use it as pendrive
[12:25] <adi11> it was not new
[12:25] <adi11>  i dont have any usermanual or cd
[12:25] <kpkarl> jeepersz: ok, I see. well, I know there was a problem with 10.04 and grub that has sense been fixed. Other than that, I can't really say much
[12:27] <pfifo> adi11, ok, weve run out of things to troubleshoot here. If i were you I would try a different usb cable, and also try it on a windows machine. And this is a longshot but who knows, try to boot from the device. If all that fails, you might have a broken peice of hardware
[12:28] <adi11> pfifo | the guy gave it to me told me that win xp recongized but his ubuntu not
[12:28] <adi11> pfifo | concerninc the logical partion swap do you think i can get that space back?
[12:28] <pfifo> adi11, when you try it on XP check to see what filesystem is on it, normally those things use fat32 but if its using something wierd that would explain it
[12:29] <pfifo> adi11, yeah you can delete both the logical and extended partition, then resize you main partition to use the whole drive
[12:29] <jeepersz> kpkarl: So what am I supposed to do? try to install grub manually?
[12:29] <kpkarl> pfifo: but if that were the case, wouldn't the player show in lsusb?
[12:30] <adi11> pfifo \ with disk utility? i dont want to delete any data on this hdd...
[12:30] <pfifo> kpkarl, im leaving that one as undefined, with dmesg borked all to hell, im asuming the lsusb and related utilities are broken
[12:30] <adi11> do you think i can do it without reinstall ubuntu?
[12:30] <kpkarl> jeepersz: you could. Do you want to try that?
[12:31] <jeepersz> not really
[12:31] <pfifo> adi11, yeah use a livecd to do that, you dont want it to be mounted
[12:31] <pfifo> adi11, use gparted on the livecd
[12:31] <jeepersz> but I have to do something at this point because I have partitions with ubuntu 10.04 on them that I can't get to ;)
[12:32] <kpkarl> jeepersz: I can give you the command. Otherwise, to remove ubuntu you can delete the ubuntu partitions with gparted, then expand the windows partition, then use your windows CD to reinstall the windows bootloader
[12:32] <adi11> ok thanks pfifo
[12:32] <hmca> raid6 md0 out of 9 devices with no partitions , mdadm assemble fail, worked before reboot!
[12:35] <zzzed_> jeepersz, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[12:35] <kpkarl> jeepersz: to install grub run(using the cd): sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[12:37] <youngblood> I have a new Dell laptop with release 10.04 installed. I can't get any internet connection. My network card is a broadcom 4727. My ethernet card is Atheros Comm AR8152.v1.1. The package manager shows that module bcmwl-modaliases is installed. what should i look for next to get net connected?
[12:37] <jeepersz> thanks, I'll go try that stuff.
[12:37] <timewriter> hi
[12:38] <tracy69> good morning
[12:39] <pfifo> youngblood, wait a minute, can you rephrase that.
[12:39] <timewriter> yeah , its me again
[12:40] <youngblood> pfifo, what would you like rephased?
[12:40] <hmca> !mdadm
[12:40] <psyt7> how do I enable / disable headphone jack sense in lucid?
[12:40] <pfifo> youngblood, network card and ethernet card
[12:42] <youngblood> pfifo, nwweork card is broadcom 4727, ethernet card is Atheros AR8152 v1.1
[12:42] <slin_> re
[12:42] <pfifo> broadcom = wired and atheros= wireless, right?
[12:42] <slin_> any ide, why cups does not logs local users to page_log ?
[12:42] <youngblood> pfifo, yes
[12:43] <slin_> remote sessions are logged, this is since cups was updated to 1.4 from 1.3
[12:43] <pfifo> youngblood, did it come with 10.04 pre-installed?
[12:43] <youngblood> pfifo, no. I burn an iso image 64 bit.
[12:44] <pfifo> youngblood, did the livecd have network access
[12:44] <youngblood> pfifo, how would i know that?
[12:45] <ectospasm> youngblood: you could have tested the browser in the LiveCD GUI
[12:45] <pfifo> youngblood, did you try to surf facebook or anything during the install?
[12:45] <student> Hi. In emacs i need to use a command whose shortcut is: C-.  (pressing CTRL and . at the sime time). But it only diplays the . (the command doens't trigger) what to do?
[12:45] <youngblood> actospasm, can i do that now?
[12:46] <student> can i configure the ubuntu terminal somehow?
[12:46] <youngblood> pfifo, no
[12:46] <jrib> student: trying the emacs channel might yield better results
[12:46] <student> ok
[12:46] <student> :)
[12:47] <pfifo> the atheros card should work just fine, i have that card as well. my laptop has a buttong I can press to turn it on and off. Look and see if yours is the same
[12:47] <kangkang>  哎？
[12:47] <pfifo> youngblood, the atheros card should work just fine, i have that card as well. my laptop has a buttong I can press to turn it on and off. Look and see if yours is the same
[12:47] <bazhang> !cn | kangkang
[12:48] <_mrn_ver_> what  is an offset alignment?
[12:49] <pfifo> _mrn_ver_, something us gurus made up to help us instantly identify newbies
[12:49] <adac> Is it now possible to encrypt the whole disk on installation?
[12:50] <bazhang> adac, using the alternate installer?
[12:50] <youngblood> pfifo, I have a dell 17" inspiron and it does not appear that I have such a button. where is yours located?
[12:50] <adac> bazhang, not tried yet? is it possible twith that one?
[12:50] <kpkarl> adac: yes, however you will need to use the alternate installer
[12:50] <adac> *with
[12:51] <_mrn_ver_> pfifo:  as u said i am a newbie but can u please answer the questtion?
[12:51] <adac> ok kpkarl thx
[12:51] <pfifo> youngblood, well i have an EEEPC, firs i have to hold down a special function key, then i pressF2
[12:51] <pfifo> _mrn_ver_, well it depends on where you saw that
[12:51] <youngblood> pfifo,  how did you find that?
[12:52] <pfifo> youngblood, n/m if you had one it would be obvious. Lets move on. Goto the terminal and type in 'iwconfig' pastebin the output if its more than 3 lines
[12:53] <zerver> hey guys
[12:53] <_mrn_ver_> pfifo: i  got it in intel manual in pointer validation or invalidation .i searched for it but failed
[12:53] <_mrn_ver_> so now can u please?
[12:53] <zerver> is there a img burning program for ubuntu like imgburn for windows ?
[12:53] <pfifo> _mrn_ver_, an offset alignment in programming?
[12:54] <_mrn_ver_> yes
[12:54] <kpkarl> zerver: you can burn an iso by right clicking on it then clicking "write to disk"
[12:55] <youngblood> pfifo,  I'm going to have to re-type the info in this laptop. be right back.
[12:55] <iX315> hi to all
[12:56] <_mrn_ver_> pfifo: u got  the issue
[12:56] <howie> Hi trying to download either Campcaster or Radio Warwick's digiplay playout system but cant seem to get me head round it. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04LTS
[12:57] <pfifo> _mrn_ver_, it has todo with the way memory is accessed, each byte of memory is identified by a number. when you create an array, it uses many bytes of memory. take for example a string "Hello World" the letter H would be stored at location x, e would be stored at x+1 and so on, thats called an offset
[12:57] <youngblood> pfifo,  what is pastebin web pointer?
[12:57] <pfifo> pastebin.com
[12:58] <_mrn_ver_> that much i know but what mean of alignment?
[12:59] <_mrn_ver_> and what is the  advantage of alignment?
[12:59] <pfifo> _mrn_ver_, im not exactly sure where the alignment part is referring to, I would really have to have eiter a more detaild description of what your doing, or a code sample.
[13:00] <pfifo> youngblood, are you typing all that into pasebin?
[13:00] <iX315> I have a problem with all the distros of linux... i have an esprimo mobile (laptop) and i see the loading screen like a tv with no signal... xD xD any help?
[13:01] <x_> hello
[13:01] <kk9822> hi
[13:01] <pfifo> !hi
[13:01] <kk9822> i need some pfifo
[13:01] <pfifo> dont we all
[13:02] <x_> 有没有说中文的
[13:02] <kk9822> i want to use one software from a company which uses pda
[13:02] <kk9822> it is called angel pda
[13:02] <tonysan> what if the minimum sys req of Ubuntu Minimal 10.04?
[13:02] <pfifo> x_ please use english only in this channel. if you want help in chinese,japanes or korean there is a room for that
[13:02] <tonysan> /s/if/is
[13:02] <kk9822> they say it works only with windows not with linux platform
[13:03] <pfifo> !cn
[13:03] <kk9822> so what should we do whouse ubuntu 10.1
[13:03] <iX315> !it
[13:04] <kk9822> pfifo
[13:04] <kk9822> are u there
[13:04] <pfifo> tonysan, something like pentium 2 with 128M ram, it says on the download site.
[13:04] <x_> I can't install the nvidia driver
[13:04] <pfifo> kk9822, i have no idea what your talking about, sorry
[13:04] <kk9822> ok
[13:04] <kk9822> no prob
[13:04] <tonysan> pfifo: thanks
[13:04] <kk9822> any one can help me
[13:04] <x_> my notebook is asus A42JV
[13:05] <tonysan> pfifo: I am going to setup a linux VM only to serve ssh tunneling traffics
[13:05] <ibrahim-kasem> How can I burn mp3 disc ? i used k3b but I cant see the mp3 option !
[13:05] <kk9822> hello
[13:05] <x_> when i installed the driver..restart is black
[13:06] <pfifo> tonysan, a virtual machine? if thats the case your system spec can be whatever you want
[13:06] <kk9822> i need some software help
[13:06] <hexiaohui> Hi
[13:06] <bazhang> kk9822, then ask a question
[13:06] <kk9822> ok
[13:06] <kk9822> bazhang
[13:06] <bazhang> kk9822, all on one line
[13:06] <kk9822> i am using ubuntu ulitmate edition
[13:06] <n00bi3> s.net
[13:06] <bazhang> kk9822, not supported here
[13:06] <bazhang> !ultimate | kk9822
[13:07] <pfifo> tonysan, if you want a simple routerbox, ubuntu is not for you, tyhere are a handful of distros that can fit on a floppy and will run on even the oldest hardware
[13:07] <tonysan> pfifo: I want to run it with least RAM and least CPU, so It won't eat my CPU time while I am using
[13:07] <kk9822> ok
[13:07] <x_> I'm a fresher
[13:07] <kk9822> thnks
[13:07] <tonysan> pfifo: and not to setup another machine to serve...
[13:08] <tonysan> pfifo: maybe I want some more, but prefer it light and flexible?
[13:08] <ragaxx> ciao gente
[13:09] <ragaxx> ho bisogno di aiuto su ubuntu
[13:09] <bazhang> !it | ragaxx
[13:09] <ragaxx>  /join #ubuntu-it
[13:10] <pfifo> tonysan, look into a minimal distro it maybe quicker and smaller than ubuntu can provide you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Linux
[13:10] <youngblood> pfifo,  i posted the output in pastebin, but i did not a reference for you.
[13:10] <bazhang> ibrahim-kasem, libk3b2-mp3 installed?
[13:10] <pfifo> youngblood, im sorry, what was the link?
[13:10] <youngblood> pfifo,  i posted the output in pastebin, but i did not a reference number for you.
[13:11] <youngblood> pfifo,  pastebin.com
[13:11] <bazhang> ibrahim-kasem, belay that, searching for a more recent option
[13:12] <pfifo> youngblood, ok, well can you go back to that page in your browser and give me the url?
[13:12] <youngblood> pfifo,  sure
[13:12] <bazhang> ibrahim-kasem, libk3b6-extracodecs
[13:12] <pfifo> what dose the word 'ubuntu' mean?
[13:13] <youngblood> pfifo,  http://pastebin.com/4Phd4jAq
[13:13] <clone1018> What do you guys recommend. Ubuntu x32 or x64?
[13:13] <bazhang> !ubuntu > pfifo
[13:13] <ibrahim-kasem> bazhang, this one is not installed libk3b6-extracodecs I will install it now thnx.
[13:13] <bazhang> clone1018, how much ram
[13:13] <pfifo> bazhang, lol thats not what i meant
[13:13] <ibrahim-kasem> pfifo, humanity :)
[13:13] <clone1018> 4GB
[13:14] <bazhang> clone1018, up to you; if you install linux-generic-pae with 32bit it will use all 4GB
[13:14] <clone1018> I am assuming x64 which I am currently running. And boy is it awesome.
[13:14] <pfifo> youngblood, you ran ifconfig, i wanted the output of iwconfig
[13:14] <wessel> hello, I'm downloading ubuntu netbook edition, will this also work on a notebook? I will be using the 13.3" Acer Aspire Timeline 3810T
[13:15] <pfifo> wessel, yes
[13:15] <bazhang> wessel, sure, but made for much smaller screens
[13:15] <youngblood> pfifo,  your right. shit!
[13:15] <pfifo> !language
[13:15] <bazhang> youngblood, language please
[13:15] <pfifo> youngblood, dont worry about typing it into pastebin, just run it and tll me if there are any interfaces
[13:15] <wessel> There will be windows installed on the hard disk, it it possible to see if all the hardware works correctly with ubuntu before I remove the windows? I would like to do a windows refund.
[13:16] <bazhang> wessel, try the live cd
[13:16] <ibrahim-kasem> bazhang, installing this package  libk3b6-extracodecs will add new options to the application ? k3b ? so i can create mp3 disc
[13:16] <bazhang> ibrahim-kasem, correct
[13:16] <wessel> There will not be a CD/DVD player, but I can install from USB stick, did this before.
[13:17] <bazhang> wessel, that will work too: live usb
[13:17] <youngblood> pfifo,  output from iwconfig, lo     no wireless extensions
[13:17] <pfifo> wessel, you can boot from a USB stick and Install to a different USB stick if you really wanted to
[13:17] <wessel> ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i368.iso will this also be a live USB?
[13:17] <ibrahim-kasem> bazhang, in the new project list, I can only see create audio cd project no mp3.
[13:18] <wessel> pfifo: well I want to check if all the hardware works, I'm worried that if the netbook is broken somehow they will blame me for installing linux
[13:18] <pfifo> youngblood, somehow the modules for your network adapters are not being loaded.
[13:19] <wessel> but I can't run the pre installed windows, because after I accept the EULA I can't get a windows refund anymore.
[13:19] <youngblood> pfifo,  can i do that manually?
[13:19] <pfifo> wessel, linux will not 'break' you computer the worse that can happen is that it will delete all your files, in which case you can just format and reinstall windows
[13:20] <wessel> I can not reinstall windows, its really silly
[13:20] <miyak> semarang
[13:20] <bazhang> !id | miyak
[13:20] <wessel> If I need to reinstall it I need to send it back to the manufacturer
[13:20] <JohnFlux> wessel: technically, how would they know that you accepted the eula ?
[13:20] <wessel> you need to make photos
[13:20] <wessel> with a camera
[13:20] <jeepersz> when I use the cd and boot to it, I get this error about the installer failing, and it going into a desktop session so I can figure out what's wrong (This is without even trying to install... just booting off the cd) COuld that be causing the true install problems that causes grub to fail?  I don't have a /dev/sda
[13:20] <pfifo> wessel, when you boot from the livecd, it will not make any change to your computer unless you specifically tell it to install onto your harddrive
[13:21] <wessel> JohnFlux: after you denied the EULA you need to make a photo
[13:21] <wessel> if you accept it, you can no longer make this photo
[13:21] <pfifo> youngblood, type lsmod and look at the drivers that are loaded. im guessing there wont be anything related to networking
[13:21] <Pici> !ot | wessel
[13:21] <bazhang> wessel, I don't recall if the netbook edition has a live function; you'll quickly be able to see it though
[13:22] <cast> wessel: one way to work out if linux supports your netbook is to google, either the whole netbook or the parts. wireless is the main issue
[13:22] <wessel> pfifo: :P I know Linux will not break my computer, but its not the first time that I have been sent a not fully working laptop (hardware problems)
[13:23] <wessel> ah, k
[13:23] <youngblood> pfifo,  nothing seems to make reference to a network module.
[13:23] <sothe> Hallo, long time since i were on ubuntu. I have a small problem with installing Steam(CS). Any help? :)
[13:23] <pfifo> wessel, hardware support is getting better all the time, chances are that 99% of it will work.
[13:23] <jeepersz> when I use the cd and boot to it, I get this error about the installer failing, and it going into a desktop session so I can figure out what's wrong (This is without even trying to install... just booting off the cd) COuld that be causing the true install problems that causes grub to fail?  I don't have a /dev/sda
[13:23] <pfifo> youngblood, run 'modprobe ath5k'
[13:23] <pfifo> youngblood, run 'sudo modprobe ath5k'
[13:23] <jrib> !appdb | sothe
[13:24] <youngblood> pfifo,  side note: my screen times out quite frequently, do you  know hoe to extend the time?
[13:25] <wessel> cast: there seem to be thousands of posts related to the Acer Aspire Timeline 3810T + Linux, not sure if this is a good or bad thing :-/
[13:26] <youngblood> pfifo,  module not found.
[13:26] <evox> ciao
[13:26] <bazhang> !it | evox
[13:26] <francesca> ciao
[13:26] <timewriter> i love ubuntu
[13:27] <kk9822> hi
[13:27] <kk9822> idoru
[13:27] <timewriter> ciao francesca , ma che fai
[13:27] <bazhang> kk9822, what?
[13:27] <dv_> oi
[13:28] <pfifo> youngblood, im starting to think you install may have failed. Reboot to a livecd and test your network connection, if you can get onto the network, then you need to reinstall. if you cant then ill see you back here in 10 minutes
[13:28] <kk9822> bazhang i want to down load jre 1.6.0 and above how do i do for using in ubuntu
[13:28] <bazhang> kk9822, you're using ultimate. that's not supported here
[13:28] <flupke> anyone managed to get suspend / hibernate working on an asus u35jc ?
[13:28] <Pici> !it | timewriter
[13:28] <dugan_> Hi all. Someone know if there is a "control panel"/console to manage POSTFIX ?
[13:28] <timewriter> !ro pici
[13:29] <Pici> !ro | timewriter sorry
[13:29] <kk9822> no no sorry i am using ubuntu 10.04
[13:29] <youngblood> pfifo,  thanks for your time. See you later
[13:29] <timewriter> nu dorim ajutor , multumesc
[13:29] <bazhang> kk9822, you just said you were using ultimate
[13:29] <kk9822> i miss took my lapy  thing for desktop sorry
[13:29] <kryl> hi
[13:29] <kk9822> sorry bazhang
[13:29] <timewriter> youngblood , my screen goes blank every minute also
[13:30] <timewriter> and its set up to 30 mins
[13:30] <kryl> I have a font problem, but it's curious I supposed it's a problem of license but I'm not sure can you give me some advices please : http://pastebin.com/F8YZLAji (the problem came after an update on lucid)
[13:30] <kk9822> pl help me
[13:30] <youngblood> timewriter, did you find out how to extend the time?
[13:30] <timewriter> no
[13:30] <timewriter> i dont bother anymore
[13:30] <erdnase> Good morning, I want to test ubuntio studio because the "multimedia" part is very intriguing. Anyhow, is there a major difference between xUbuntu and ubuntu studio?
[13:31] <timewriter> i barely managed to install the nvidia drivers
[13:31] <erdnase> ubuntu studio*
[13:31] <bazhang> erdnase, install ubuntustudio-desktop  the realtime kernel would be one major difference
[13:31] <pfifo> youngblood, i know you can do that, but havent done it since gentoo days, one sec
[13:32] <erdnase> bazhang, I'm downloading ubuntu studio atm. Do I need to do anything else before I install ubuntu studio?
[13:32] <bazhang> erdnase, no need for the separate iso, the -desktop package will do it
[13:33] <erdnase> bazhang, thanks. :) I'll give it a try.
[13:33] <timewriter> whats a realtime kernel ?
[13:33] <pfifo> youngblood, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html
[13:33] <bazhang> timewriter, used for audio production, for example
[13:33] <timewriter> mhm
[13:33] <timewriter> i might need it
[13:34] <erdnase> The more I study ubuntu, the more it makes me want to ditch windows.
[13:34] <youngblood> pfifo,  it seems that other people are having the same issue. thanks
[13:34] <timewriter> i already did
[13:34] <cast> timewriter: for?
[13:34] <timewriter> last night i deleted my windows
[13:34] <dv_> hey people
[13:34] <timewriter> cast  , reason , cubase and mixmesiter studio
[13:34] <cast> ah.
[13:34] <erdnase> timewriter, I will too, soon. :P
[13:34] <timewriter> i just need to get world of warcraft working on linux
[13:34] <timewriter> and thats all
[13:35] <timewriter> got rid of 7 and the license i paid lol
[13:35] <jaj> noob
[13:35] <pfifo> timewriter, WoW works perfectly with stock wine1.2
[13:35] <kk9822> bazhang any soln for me pl
[13:35] <cast> uh you don't need a RTOS for WoW
[13:35] <timewriter> pfifo , im gonna test it
[13:35] <erdnase> timewriter, God, the license. :P
[13:36] <timewriter> screw the license
[13:36] <wessel> ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i368.iso <-- can this deal with 4GB ram?
[13:36] <pfifo> wessel, yes
[13:37] <aronaliaga> donde esta el chat en español?
[13:37] <dgeary2> real root filesystem is squashfs image on httpfs mount (fuse), when initramfs does switch_root it kills httpfs and loses access to root filesystem, any ideas?
[13:37] <pfifo> !es aronaliaga
[13:37] <bazhang> aronaliaga, #ubuntu-es
[13:37] <pfifo> !es | aronaliaga
[13:38] <timewriter> http://img185.imageshack.us/i/screenshotmf.png/ <---- better than any microsoft license
[13:38] <cast> dgeary2: yeah, ask somewhere else ;)
[13:38] <bazhang> !ot | timewriter
[13:39] <timewriter> thanks bazhang
[13:39] <dgeary2> cast, any ideas where to ask?
[13:40] <cast> dgeary2: not really sure, haven't ran into anyone who's done anything like that before
[13:40] <pfifo> dgeary2, try asking in #linux
[13:40] <dgeary2> cast, pfifo, thanks
[13:41] <cast> dgeary2: just seems you're unlikely to get any answer here...#linux may, but i wouldn't count on it
[13:41] <pfifo> dgeary2, the syslinux guys can probbally hepl to, they are masters of the boot process
[13:41] <timewriter> is 35GB enough for / partition ?
[13:41] <pfifo> timewriter, minimum is 4gb i believe
[13:42] <erdnase> timewriter, that's big already.
[13:43] <timewriter> its good then
[13:43] <WebDawg_> What is a good ftp server that allows me to add users?
[13:43] <WebDawg_> GLFTPD
[13:43] <WebDawg_> ??
[13:43] <timewriter> i have 35 Gb for / , 4096 for swap and 600 Gb for /home
[13:44] <WebDawg_> THIRTY FIVE GB FOR SWAP?
[13:45] <jrib> WebDawg_: no, 4096 gb for swap
[13:45] <timewriter> 4096MB for swap
[13:45] <WebDawg_> OHH
[13:45] <jrib> timewriter: you reasonable person you
[13:45] <WebDawg_> deir....
[13:45] <GuiToris> somebody can use the youtube-dl program?
[13:45] <timewriter> thank you sir
[13:45] <jrib> GuiToris: failed for me last time i tried
[13:46] <pfifo> WebDawg, i use cuteftp, i dont know if it has a package in ubuntu
[13:46] <timewriter> time for a Camel
[13:46] <panpansh> 4 GB is the max ...
[13:46] <GuiToris> jrib and is there any other solution?
[13:46] <panpansh> how much ddram ?
[13:46] <timewriter> seems that Vmware works better on ubuntu than on windows 7
[13:46] <jrib> GuiToris: I don't know, I used to use sites like keepvid but they ask to install some java stuff now and I refuse
[13:46] <timewriter> panpansh , 4GB
[13:47] <panpansh> ok
[13:47] <pfifo> GuiToris, make your own
[13:47] <panpansh> ddr2 or ddr3
[13:47] <panpansh> ?
[13:47] <timewriter> ddr2-800
[13:47] <timewriter> im legacy
[13:47] <panpansh> if you have free disk space ... no pb ... elseif just 2GB it's ok ;)
[13:47] <panpansh> for the swap ...
[13:48] <panpansh> esleif => else
[13:48] <timewriter> i read some articles and they said that its good to have the swap with same amount of ram
[13:48] <panpansh> (sorry i'm french)
[13:48] <timewriter> so i did 4 GB
[13:48] <timewriter> yeah , i have more 600 GB for /home
[13:48] <timewriter> space isnt a problem , but time is
[13:48] <mtx_init> theres no reason unless you are a very ram heavy user
[13:48] <panpansh> yes but it's for old config ... when you have 1GB of ram => 1GB of swap
[13:49] <panpansh> but now it's not a probleme because hardware rox
[13:49] <timewriter> i see
[13:49] <undifined> timewriter, actually its even better to have a swap twice the size of your ram
[13:49] <timewriter> undifined thats an old idea , i use to apply it too
[13:49] <undifined> but nobody want to use it
[13:49] <timewriter> but 3 times ago , the guys in here said its not necesarry anymore
[13:49] <dt_> hello, what is the little chat bubble with an x inside of it called ? the one next to the clock
[13:49] <dt_> also, how do I restore it. the indicator applet doesn't show it anymore
[13:50] <timewriter> 3 days ago* , sorry
[13:50] <dt_> i think it has something to do with a package i removed
[13:50] <panpansh> xchat-aqua ?
[13:50] <undifined> timewriter, there is some work in moving to swap files
[13:50] <blue_anna> hey - my audio slider used to work just fine until recently (I think, I dont use it that often) -- now, if I turn it down a tiny bit, its gone. its like all or nothing
[13:51] <timewriter> whats the best encryption software for ubuntu ?
[13:51] <panpansh> ok undifined ... no pb from space now in 2010 ... ;)
[13:51] <mickster04> !encyrption
[13:51] <mickster04> !encryption
[13:52] <pfifo> if you really want to know about the why/how much issues, do the research and learn what a swap partition dose, and how the kernel uses it as a supplement for lack of physical memory.
[13:52] <Emry> Which package is df in?
[13:52] <timewriter> is there a way to encrypt the entire hard drive ?
[13:52] <Pici> Emry: coreutils
[13:52] <mickster04> timewriter: theres little point
[13:52] <undifined> panpansh, ?
[13:53] <blue_anna> its like 100% volume became 0% , and 150% became 100%
[13:53] <Emry> Pici, O.o  I just realized that it would let me run it with sudo, but it gives me file not found with normal privileges.  Strange. :P
[13:53] <panpansh> yes undifined
[13:53] <panpansh> ?
[13:53] <panpansh> what ?
[13:53] <timewriter> they really did some work on the avant-window-navigator
[13:54] <timewriter> its awesome
[13:54] <theconartist> is it normal for empathy to forget all of my info?
 ok undifined ... no pb from space now in 2010 ... ;)
[13:54] <undifined> panpansh, what do you mean
[13:54] <Emry> Pici,  thanks for the info though. :)
[13:55] <binas> is there any possibility of deleting a key from keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[13:55] <jrib> binas: you can revoke it
[13:55] <binas> ok, but that wouldn't delete my email adres right?
[13:55] <undifined> jrib can we revoke someone elses key ?
[13:55] <panpansh> heu I speak too bad english ... I'm french ... I say : "it is not a problem anyway disk space either in 2010 ... So if you want to see 4GB 8GB swap you can: D"
[13:56] <jrib> undifined: no you need to have the private key to generate a revocation certificate
[13:56] <binas> ok, thx
[13:56] <mickster04> panpansh: if you want there is #ubuntu-fr?
[13:56] <panpansh> yes I'am here too
[13:56] <PrestonConnors> Hello, I am trying to get unattended-upgrades to NOT install and only notify me of packages that are available for upgrade via E-Mail. I noticed the option APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";  in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic via Google searching but this is not an option in my installations of Ubuntu 10.04; what does APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1"; do and if I set it to 0 will it NOT install updates and still notify me abou
[13:57] <dv_> someone can help me
[13:57] <undifined> jrib how can easily ignore an archive for which I have no valid pgp and I cannot ask for revalidation
[13:57] <timewriter> can i use VMware on ubuntu studio ?
[13:58] <mickster04> !anyone | dv_
[13:59] <jrib> undifined: remove it from your sources.list
[13:59] <dv_> Does anyone can help me i want work with vpn connetion in ubuntu 10.4
[13:59] <mickster04> !vpn
[13:59] <mickster04> dv_: ^^
[14:00] <PrestonConnors> !unattended-upgrades
[14:00] <frando> Hello. I'm experiencing a strange problem. Just updated from 9.04 to 10.04 LTS. Then de-installed fglrx and installed xserver-xorg-video-ati. Restarted and now when X wants to start up, a very strange thing appears on screen, some green color that then fades to white and then when it's all white it freezes and i also cannot switch to other ttys.
[14:00] <kryl> I have a font problem, but it's curious I supposed it's a problem of license but I'm not sure can you give me some advices please : http://pastebin.com/F8YZLAji (the problem came after an update on lucid)
[14:00] <frando> I tried reinstalling xserver-xorg-video-ati and libgl1-mesa-glx (someone suggested that to me) but no change
[14:00] <frando> I also tried to purge everything fglrx related that I found
[14:00] <frando> still the same
[14:00] <frando> any ideas?
[14:02] <yessir_turan> Hi, I'm on Nvidia card, is there a way to enable/disable twinview using command line, rather than going to nvidia-settings and then doing that..
[14:02] <binas> frando: Does it say 'Unsupported hardware'
[14:02] <yessir_turan> Would be REALLLLY grateful if someone knew that.
[14:02] <frando> binas: no it says nothing
[14:03] <frando> binas: and my hardware is definitely supported, i've been using the radeon driver before
[14:03] <frando> binas: mobility radeon hd2600 is what i have
[14:04] <binas> frando:sorry, much knowledge about this topic
[14:04] <Tafffash> good afternoon everyone
[14:04] <rgnr> hi all
[14:04] <rgnr> a question
[14:04] <frando>  /j #xorg
[14:04] <rgnr> simple enough
[14:04] <pfifo> frando, well, can you get access to a command line on your system?
[14:05] <frando> pfifo: yeah I can get into a root shell
[14:05] <rgnr> i wanna partition my hdd  so that base system and installed  apps will reside on separate partitions
[14:05] <rgnr> like in windows
[14:05] <pfifo> frando, try deleting your xorg.conf file and then start X with its built in defaults
[14:05] <sebsebseb> Hi
[14:05] <rgnr> system and storage
[14:05] <frando> pfifo: did that, no help
[14:05] <youngblood> pfifo,  I'm on a liveCD, when I select firfox i get a pop-up that tells me I need the broadcom drivers. I then install the drivers, but still no connection.
[14:06] <rgnr> so in case of failure i'll have to reinstall only os
[14:06] <sebsebseb> youngblood: you can try Ndiswrapper with a Windows driver, if can't do it natively
[14:06] <bazhang> rgnr, separate home
[14:06] <frando> pfifo: weird thing, also tried a failsafe xorg.conf with driver "vesa" and I *still* get that very weird thing where the screen is first filled with some green-ish color and then slowly fades to white and then freezes
[14:06] <bazhang> !home > rgnr
[14:06] <pfifo> youngblood, yeah thats what i was going to suggest
[14:06] <sebsebseb> youngblood: I just joined, what was the actsaul issue?
[14:07] <pfifo> frando, are you dual booting this machine?
[14:07] <frando> pfifo: however, when I select an older kernel in grub (right now 31-11-rt) I can get X to start with driver "vesa"
[14:07] <frando> pfifo: yeah also have an windows 7 installation on the machine
[14:07] <pfifo> frando, so its definatly not faulty hardware?
[14:08] <youngblood> sebsebseb, I have a new Dell laptop with release 10.04 installed. I can't get any internet connection. My network card is a broadcom 4727. My ethernet card is Atheros Comm AR8152.v1.1. The package manager shows that module bcmwl-modaliases is installed. what should i look for next to get net connected?
[14:08] <frando> pfifo: nope, windows 7 works everything fine, and also before the update to 10.04 + switch from fglrx to radeon driver everything worked perfectly, including dri and compositng (with fglrx)
[14:08] <pfifo> frando, you should do a fresh install.
[14:09] <Planet8> What is the name of the desktop used in Ubuntu 10.04 netbook version?
[14:09] <frando> pfifo: hhrrm. yeah maybe. thought there might be a way. really not too fond of doing a reinstall, there's a lot of stuff installed and configured on the machine that I need..
[14:09] <youngblood> pfifo,  it looks like the system see the wireless, but I still can not connect.
[14:09] <bazhang> !une > Planet8
[14:09] <frando> pfifo: i might try to swith back to fglrx first
[14:09] <Tafffash> Guys Im sick of windows, can i dual install ubuntu? If so what do i need to download please?
[14:10] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: of course
[14:10] <pinaka_> hi\
[14:10] <timewriter> frando , boot rescue mode , drop to terminal , remove any drivers , blacklist some modules , and install the latest drivers
[14:10] <Tafffash> sebsebseb what do i need to download?
[14:10] <timewriter> thats how i did today , after x failed
[14:10] <nastas> youngblood: could you post the output of lspci -vv iwconfig and ifconfig in pastebin please?
[14:10] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: to install a Linux distro be that Ubuntu or another one,  you will  need install media,  easy way is to download the ISO, check that is a good download, and burn your own CD
[14:11] <lucenut> Hi peeps. I have a machine with 10.04 installed and I want to make it dual boot with windows 7.
[14:11] <frando> timewriter: so what i did is apt-get remove --purge fglrx and also apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati libgl1-mesa-glx
[14:11] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: in the case of Ubuntu can  order a free CD, but they take a while to get sent
[14:11] <frando> timewriter: what else do you suggest? blacklist some modules - what do you mean?
[14:11] <pfifo> youngblood, its hard to believe that theres a card out there thats not supported, but its starting to look that way
[14:11] <lucenut> I booted into a live cd and tried gparted but it says you have to have root priviledges to run gparted.
[14:11] <frando> timewriter: my /etc/modules lists just "lp"
[14:11] <lucenut> What do I do?
[14:11] <rgnr> !user
[14:11] <jrib> lucenut: gksudo gparted
[14:11] <ddavids> pls does ebox necessarily have to be installed on ubuntu server?
[14:11] <sebsebseb> !install | Tafffash
[14:11] <rgnr> !home
[14:11] <youngblood> nastas, I can, but give me some time i have to re-key in the info.
[14:11] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | Tafffash
[14:12] <timewriter> frando  , fglrx drivers may fail to install without blacklisting some modules
[14:12] <pfifo> youngblood, try ubuntu 32bit
[14:12] <nastas> ok
[14:12] <Tafffash> thanks all
[14:12] <timewriter> i dont know about ati , but this happened with my nvidia card
[14:12] <Tafffash> time to read up lol
[14:12] <frando> timewriter: actually, i want to use the open source radeon driver
[14:12] <rgnr> !proc
[14:12] <frando> timewriter: what do you mean by blacklisting some modules? how would I do that?
[14:12] <timewriter> just a second
[14:12] <youngblood> pfifo,  i'll give that a try in a sec.
[14:13] <timewriter> need to do a research
[14:13] <Tafffash> I have downloaded the iso and burnt to cd
[14:13] <Tafffash> so i just pop it in and install?
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: not quite
[14:13] <cast> Tafffash: and reboot
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: 1. you should check the ISO is good
[14:13] <timewriter> frando , did you tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: 2. you might have to tell your computer to boot from CD in its bios, by changing the boot order
[14:14] <ibrahim-kasem> why sound disappears suddenly, I have to restart to fix this !!
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Tafffash:  pop it in and
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> boot from the cd
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: 3. don't just install,  try the Live session on the CD first,  to find out that your hardware is ok or not
[14:14] <Tafffash> ok number 2 i know how to boot form cd
[14:14] <Tafffash> how do i check number 1?
[14:14] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | Tafffash
[14:14] <Tafffash> ok thanks guys
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Tafffash:  check your bios settings, many pc's also have a Fkey you hit to select what item to boot from
[14:15] <timewriter> i remember the days i use to own ati cards , i always installed the drivers using that procedure
[14:15] <timewriter> never had problem with them
[14:15] <adolfo> holq
[14:15] <timewriter> i had much more problems iwht nvidia
[14:16] <Tafffash> ok going to check if the iso burnt right now
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: ok :)
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: by the way in the future, when you got a Linux distro on there, much easier to do it in that
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> timewriter: i would consider you 'very lucky' then.
[14:16] <timewriter[afk]> Dr_Willis , i had like 3 different ati cards x800 , x800xt and x1950xt , never had a single problem
[14:16] <jrib> !away > timewriter[afk]
[14:17] <frando> timewriter[afk]: as I said, i actually wanted to switch from fglrx to open source radeon driver
[14:17] <timewriter[afk]> im afk ubottu
[14:17] <frando> timewriter[afk]: but yes, previously I used that method
[14:17] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: you could check it from the Live CD, but the Windows program the bot link recommended, will do it
[14:17] <Tafffash> ok
[14:18] <aperson> can someone tell me where nautilus keeps a folder's emblem data?
[14:18] <youngblood> nastas, here is ifconfig - http://pastebin.com/4Phd4jAq
[14:19] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: and yeah check the ISO, boot the live session from CD, and hopefuly your hardware works all ok
[14:20] <katspaugh> join ##javascript
[14:20] <youngblood> nastas, here is iwconfig     lo     no wireless extension
[14:21] <pfifo> youngblood, im telling ya it probbally works in 32bit
[14:22] <sebsebseb> Tafffash: by the way, this has a basic install guide,  and other relivent 10.04 newbie info
[14:22] <sebsebseb> !manual | Tafffash
[14:22] <nastas> youngblood: what about lspci -vv?
[14:22] <Jinxed-> what is the easiest way to back up my ubuntu system so if stuff goes bad I could just get everything exactly back the way it is now?
[14:22] <bazhang> Jinxed-, a clone?
[14:23] <tarzeau> Jinxed-: dd or rsync
[14:23] <minibill> Can someone help me reproduce a bug? It's simple
[14:23] <pfifo> minibill, go
[14:23] <youngblood> pfifo,  i'll  go to that as a last resort. right now i like to see if i can get my release working. thanks for your help.
[14:24] <minibill> run "aptitude" in a console. press ctrl+t to show menu, select "play minefield"
[14:24] <CR0W> Hi, I have ubuntu+windows, if I'll want to install a new linux distro will it automaticly add to grub menu and don't screw up?
[14:24] <youngblood> nastas, what are you looking for in the output from lspci --vv. its a lot to re-key in.
[14:24] <minibill> CR0W: which distro? anyway, probably yes
[14:24] <CR0W> minibill probably arch
[14:24] <minibill> CR0W: whould do with no problem
[14:24] <pfifo> minibill, i got a SIGABRT
[14:24] <minibill> good
[14:25] <minibill> so it's a bug :)
[14:25] <minibill> and it's not my machine/config
[14:25] <nastas> youngblood: just copy/paste all the output in pastebin
[14:25] <minibill> pfifo: thank you. as soon as I get back home I'll file the bug :)
[14:25] <SSgtSpoon|work> Anybody else unable to boot with the newest kernel?
[14:26] <nastas> youngblood: the lines we looking for is the network cards lines
[14:26] <mickster14> SSgtSpoon|work: how recent?
[14:27] <youngblood> nastas, I see the network card and the ethernet card
[14:27] <Jinxed-> bazhang, what is a clone
[14:27] <SSgtSpoon|work> Update was waiting for me when I got to work this morning. Had to choose previous kernel in grub to boot.
[14:27] <bazhang> Jinxed-, an exact copy
[14:27] <nastas> youngblood: in the output of lspci -vv?
[14:27] <greenIT> hi, i have a problem with blender, can some1 help me?
[14:27] <Jinxed-> bazhang, how would you do that
[14:27] <Excell-Home> oopsss  big crash there
[14:27] <bazhang> greenIT, try #blender
[14:28] <greenIT> bazhang, ok, thx
[14:28] <mickster14> SSgtSpoon|work: uname -a
[14:28] <bazhang> Jinxed-, clonezilla or dd
[14:28] <youngblood> nastas, yes. what particular are you looking forr?
[14:29] <SSgtSpoon|work> mickster14: 2.6.32-24-386 wouldn't boot, so I had to boot using 23 instead.
[14:29] <mickster14> SSgtSpoon|work: sorry to say I have been using 24 for a while, but i use generic...
[14:29] <nastas> youngblood: the last line of each card
[14:30] <nastas> youngblood: kernel module
[14:30] <SSgtSpoon|work> I can't look too much into now since I'm at work, I'll have to wait until I get home to look into it more.
[14:30] <CR0W> minibill do I need a separate /boot partition?
[14:31] <nastas> youngblood: so?
[14:31] <youngblood> nastas,  for network controller   Capabilitie  <acces denied>, Same for Ethernet controller
[14:32] <mickster14> SSgtSpoon|work: sorry
[14:32] <nastas> youngblood: this is the last line?
[14:32] <youngblood> nastas,  yes
[14:33] <youngblood> how do i get kernel version
[14:33] <pfifo> youngblood, uname -v
[14:33] <pfifo> youngblood, uname -a
[14:34] <youngblood> nastas,  kernal version 2.6.32-21-generic
[14:35] <mickster14> youngblood: do you update much?
[14:36] <nastas> youngblood: read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9449490
[14:36] <youngblood> mickster14, this is a new install
[14:36] <pfifo> Is canonical really a fake business created for the mafia to launder money through?
[14:37] <youngblood> nastas, give me a sec
[14:37] <CR0W> can the /boot partition be logical and formated with ext3?
[14:37] <aeon-ltd> pfifo: yes. what makes you say that?
[14:37] <mickster14> youngblood: updating is always a good idea after installing, althought from 10.10 i'm hoping it will ownload and use new updates from the start
[14:37] <ubuntuuser2234> hello. How do I edit the kernel bootline file in ubuntu?
[14:37] <pfifo> CR0W, yes
[14:37] <ikonia> CR0W: logical or primary, it doesn't matter
[14:37] <baltazar2> I want to install programs from the repository to a non-networked computer via cd. I download the .debs from package.ubuntu.com, but do I also have to traverse all dependencies?
[14:38] <pfifo> aeon-ltd, lets just say im very observant
[14:38] <mickster14> nastas: you may have to be terminated now....
[14:38] <youngblood> mickster14, what do you mean "use new update from the start"?
[14:38] <ubuntuuser2234> I have to add the line i8042.nokbd in the kernel bootline to disable the keyboard, how do I do that?
[14:38] <CR0W> Is 100 mb enough?
[14:39] <mickster14> youngblood: apparently the updater will, if it has internet, download and use newest updates for the fresh installation, so that you dont have to update once you've got a new install
[14:39] <youngblood> mickster14, oh! okay
[14:39] <nastas> mickster14: what do you mean?
[14:39] <ikonia> CR0W: for what ?
[14:40] <baltazar2> ubuntuuser2234:You could try edititing /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and find the entry for the system you want to boot
[14:40] <kryl> I can I resolve this problem please : http://pastebin.com/F8YZLAji ?
[14:41] <rgnr> hey ppl
[14:41] <nastas> mickster14: ?
[14:41] <rgnr> if i make /usr, does reinstalling the system restores all shortcuts in the menu?
[14:41] <ubuntuuser2234> baltazar2:Ok thanks, I ll try that
[14:42] <krainboltgreene> Certain unicode characters are only showing up as blocks. How do I fix this?
[14:43] <CR0W> ikonia for /boot
[14:43] <Shaun_> need help! ubuntu can't connect to wireless network and was advised to use NSIDWrapper but need help using it!
[14:43] <youngblood> I have to go to the doctors now, but thats for all the help everbody! I'll get back to this when I come back.
[14:43] <nastas> mickster14: [16:08] <youngblood> sebsebseb, I have a new Dell laptop with release 10.04 installed. I can't get any internet connection. My network card is a broadcom 4727. My ethernet card is Atheros Comm AR8152.v1.1. The package manager shows that module bcmwl-modaliases is installed. what should i look for next to get net connected?
[14:44] <ToriLaurey> Welcome aguitel
[14:44] <nastas> mickster14: how he wil be able to update without internet?
[14:44] <Shaun_> same problem as nastas
[14:44] <ToriLaurey> Welcome rgreening
[14:44] <ToriLaurey> Welcome Esfahan2000
[14:45] <ToriLaurey> Welcome ikepanhc
[14:45] <ToriLaurey> Welcome cdavis
[14:45] <Gnea> ToriLaurey: unnecessary
[14:45] <ToriLaurey> Welcome CybeRebel
[14:45] <aeon-ltd> ToriLaurey: yeah, maybe you could build a greeter bot or something
[14:45] <nastas> Shaun_: type exactly your problem please
[14:45] <Gnea> lol
[14:46] <mickster14> nastas: apparently the updater will, if it has internet, download and use newest updates for the fresh installation, so that you dont have to update once you've got a new install
[14:46] <tracy69> Welcome to the Magic World
[14:47] <mickster14> nastas: i wasn't saying i can help, i was just mentioning in future it could update whilst it installs
[14:47] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:47] <mickster14> hi
[14:47] <Shaun_> just downloaded ubuntu 10.04. and installed as wubi. But the wireless isn't picking up and i have zero internet connection. Did some research and the ubuntu site directed me to use the NSIDWrapper to use the drivers for windows but i'm a complete newb and have no idea how to do it. Help?
[14:47] <Tetracomm> Does anyone know of motion sensing software which can work in Ubuntu?
[14:47] <scotty_drupal> drupal
[14:48] <nastas> mickster14: true but without working network interface how he could ever update?
 and what card do you have ?
[14:48] <mickster04> nastas: well as i said "if it has internet"
[14:49] <baltazar2> When downloading a .deb from packages.ubuntu.com, are the dependencies included in the deb?
[14:49] <mickster04> nastas: otherwizse it will just use whats on the disk like the current installers do
[14:49] <mickster04> baltazar2: no
[14:49] <mickster04> baltazar2: not always anyway
[14:49] <mr_pinc> hey guys,  I just installed ubuntu and am trying to connect to a remote desktop, i set it up and it worked fine but then I moved the machine to a place where there is not display connected and I can no longer connect via remote desktop, i can connect via ssh and after googling i saw something about setting up vino-preferences but i get an error 'gtk warning cannot open display'
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  that wouldent mane sence
[14:49] <mr_pinc> any idea how to resolve this?
[14:49] <atarya> i pluged my laptop to external monitor, and didn't safely disconnected it. now when i boot up i can't do anything but moving the mouse, and get to a tty. tried to remove xorg.conf, but it didn't help
[14:49] <ZykoticK9> baltazar2, no dependencies are other DEB files
[14:49] <baltazar2> is there an easy way to get all dependencies then?
[14:49] <mickster04> bazhang: thats why you use apt to unistall stuff
[14:49] <Athunye> What package gives the login sound ?
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  the package manager sees what dependencies are needed for a given package. and should download them as needed
[14:50] <mickster04> bazhang: sorry wrong guy
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  in theory a specific program could use several Dozen+ dependencies.
[14:50] <Shaun_> thts the porblem. where can i find my card?
[14:50] <ksbalaji> Hi! great friends, while running dpkg, how /dev/null is mounted? where? which type please?
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  and posibally much higher. because those deps. may have more deps.
[14:50] <atarya> i pluged my laptop to external monitor, and didn't safely disconnected it. now when i boot up i can't do anything but moving the mouse, and get to a tty. tried to remove xorg.conf, but it didn't help
[14:50] <baltazar2> dr_willis: Thanks, Im trying to put all deb files on a cd to install on non networked computer
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> Shaun_: lspci in a terminal
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  check out the aptoncd command/tool
[14:51] <youngblood> nastas, i read that pointer you gave me. are you suggesting that i run the command in the post?
[14:51] <mickster04> aeon-ltd: have you rebooted since you remove xorg.conf
[14:51] <baltazar2> dr_willis:ok
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd
[14:51] <nimbiotics> hello ya'll. Yesterday I installed VMWare and today, after restarting the computer, I cannot see VMWare entries in the menu and I don't have the disk available anymore. Can I fix that or is there a way to call VMWare from the command prompt?
 it is external or internal card ? if internal type lspci if external lsusb u'll seee your card
[14:51] <aeon-ltd> mickster04: i think you've got the wrong person
[14:51] <Shaun_> ok so after i find my card, what do i do?
[14:51] <mickster04> aeon-ltd: yeah sorry, struggling with miss-names today
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> nimbiotics:  check the vmware docs? it should have a command line  you can run
[14:52] <Shaun_> its internal
[14:52] <baltazar2> !offline
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> !vmware | nimbiotics
[14:52] <mickster04> atarya: have you rebooted since you remove xorg.conf
[14:52] <ksbalaji> what line do I insert in /etc/fstab to let my system mount /dev/null
 do u have laptop or desktop ?
[14:52] <sothe> Can you run ubuntu an a mac ?
[14:52] <mickster04> !mac
[14:52] <DarsVaeda> hey, what are the options to rsync from a host to my localhost and remove permissions and ownage so that the files are like i created them?
[14:52] <sebsebseb> sothe: yes
[14:52] <atarya> mickster04: yes, i did
[14:52] <mickster04> sothe: yes prolly
[14:52] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willies:
[14:52] <Shaun_> laptop, but im using the wubi version of ubuntu on win 7
[14:52] <stefano> g
[14:52] <nimbiotics> Dr_Willies: Thanks
[14:52] <sebsebseb> sothe: Intel Mac or PPC?
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  mount it where?  You dont normally have a fstab entry for 'null'
[14:52] <mickster04> atarya: oh ok, it normally rewrites it when it doesn't find it:/
[14:53] <aeon-ltd> sothe: inetl? = yes ppc = not the latest version
[14:53] <pfifo> ksbalaji, /dev/null isnt something that gets mounted
[14:53] <sothe> Ok, thanx all
[14:53] <sebsebseb> sothe: I think with Intel Mac,  will be like installing on a PC, with PPC would have to do something special, but I am not exactly sure.
 if laptop than u have also button to swich your card on did u try it ?
[14:53] <atarya> mickster04: yes, i heard so - but it didn't worked for me
[14:53] <mickster04> atarya: oh well sorry i was just checking :(
[14:53] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, I have a crashed dpkg. while tinkering, I need to mount /dev/null
[14:54] <Shaun_> no, i dont have a card switch
[14:54] <tracy69> u do every laptop has it
[14:54] <Shaun_> im using a dell inspiron 1370
[14:54] <aeon-ltd> tracy69: note- you don't need the <> brackets when addressing someone, in irc you can type a few of the first characters and press tab (read !tab for help) to complete their name, that is the proper way to address someone in a channel
[14:54] <atarya> mickster04, have any other ideas??
[14:55] <nastas> Shaun_: type ifconfig and post the output
[14:55] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, I am calling chroot to my crashed ubuntu partition and trying to repair from there.
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  i think you are trying to fix somthing the wrong way. /dev/null has no mountpoint its a device..  befor you chroot you 'mount'  /proc/ and /dev/ to the right places befor you chroot..
[14:55] <atarya> dose anyone else have any ideas regarding my problem??
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> !chroot
[14:56] <saml> what program do i use to screen capture ? to post on youtube
[14:56] <pfifo> ksbalaji, mount --bind /dev /chroot/dev from outside the chroot jail
[14:56] <youngblood> pfifo,  i'm going to try the 32-bit version. should i be able to use the internet in the liveCD mode/
[14:56] <pfifo> youngblood, yeah
[14:56] <ksbalaji> ok Dr_Willis pfifo I try.
[14:56] <tracy69> aeon-ltd,  ok im sorry please forgive me
[14:56] <atarya> pfifo: i think you tried to help me earlier, with X
[14:57] <youngblood> pfifo,  if that does not work, what else will i have to do?
[14:57] <pfifo> atarya, yep
[14:57] <Shaun_> im currently using my windows 7 so i hv to reboot into ubuntu for results
[14:57] <atarya> pfifo: i was guniata then
[14:57] <pfifo> youngblood, one step at a time
[14:57] <nastas> youngblood: did you try the link i gave you?
[14:57] <lrojas> hi all, dumb question, how come figlet is not in the standard repository for 10.04 LTS ?
[14:57] <aeon-ltd> tracy69: its ok, no need to forgive, it just helps to use !tab cause it highlights your message in the recievers client so its easier to read
[14:57] <atarya> pfifo: sorry, i had to go, but what you told me didn't worked
[14:57] <lrojas> and what can i do to add it ?
[14:57] <pfifo> atarya, worse comes to wors you can reinstall
[14:57] <aeon-ltd> !ppa | lrojas
[14:58] <Shaun_> one more quesiton, does this happen often? im using 64bit win 7
[14:58] <jrib> !info figlet | lrojas
[14:58] <jrib> !repos > lrojas
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  yoiu need somthing similer to -->    mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev
[14:58] <atarya> pfifo: i know, but it seems crazy to reinstall over such a minor problem....
[14:58] <lrojas> aeon, is figlet a PPA ?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> !info figlet
[14:58] <jrib> lrojas: figlet is in multiverse
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> fortune | figlet
[14:59] <aeon-ltd> lrojas: figlet is in a ppa, but according to ubottu its in the multiverse repos, you can enable them in your sources
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[14:59] <lrojas> cool thanks
[14:59] <atarya> pfifo: maybe you have some other ideas??
[15:00] <pfifo> atarya, e2fsck, check your harddrive isnt full, is xorg's lock file present?
[15:00] <atarya> pfifo: what do you mean??
[15:00] <pfifo> atarya, pastebin xorg.log
[15:00] <nastas> youngblood: at least tell us if you tryed the link.
[15:00] <pfifo> atarya, theres alot left to look at
[15:01] <ksbalaji> pfifo, when I did mount --bind /dev /media/sda5/dev I got error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev,      missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[15:01] <youngblood> pfifo,  ya, i know, but getting frustrated,
[15:01] <atarya> pfifo: i didn't understood what you wanted me to do
[15:02] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis,  when I did mount --bind /dev /media/sda5/dev I got error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev,      missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[15:02] <pfifo> ksbalaji, youll need to run that with sudo
[15:02] <youngblood> nastas, what do you mean? I did read what you pointed me to.
[15:02] <b0ot> how do you get the properties of a webcam like PAL/and videoformat
[15:02] <ksbalaji> pfifo, ok. let me try
[15:02] <nastas> youngblood: so? did you try to fix it?
[15:03] <pfifo> atarya, firs, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:03] <youngblood> nastas, I did not know if you wanted me to key in the command in that blog.
[15:03] <atarya> what is pastebin?
[15:04] <pfifo> atarya, after that look in /tmp and see if the file .X0-lock or something similiar exists
[15:04] <nastas> youngblood: in the link was the solution of a very similar problem with yours
[15:04] <atarya> pfifo: what is pastebin?
[15:04] <pfifo> !pastebin | atarya
[15:04] <youngblood> nastas, i'll try the command.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  thats the generic 'you did somthing wrong' mount message.. check your arguments/options/command line and paths
[15:04] <atarya> pfifo: there is no such file in /tmp
[15:05] <pfifo> atarya, you need to try 'ls -la /tmp'
[15:05] <atarya> pfifo:
[15:05] <atarya> pfifo: ok
[15:05] <fep> Hello, i booted my computer, and when i logged in my "wireless and wired" icon on my taskbar (up right corner) was gone, but im connected to internet, where did it go, and how to i put it back there?
[15:06] <atarya> pfifo: i have this file in /tmp
[15:06] <deepu> which distro has more number of packages? to install
[15:06] <youngblood> nastas, when i key in the command,  sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source, i get "couldn't find package bcmwl-kernel-source".
[15:07] <nastas> youngblood: it's not just a command.
[15:07] <lrojas> i was checking my sources.list
[15:07] <sebsebseb> deepu: most of the popular distros have good repos,  and you can install  the same software in all of them
[15:07] <pfifo> atarya, now type 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log' it will dump a bunch of text, copy all of this text, goto pastebin.com and paste it there, hit submit and then give me the link to that page
[15:07] <lrojas> does this mean i have universe available? deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted universe
[15:07] <sebsebseb> deepu: well nearly everything
[15:07] <AndChat-> mbroeker: Good Afternoon
[15:07] <deepu> ohhhh...thx
[15:07] <nastas> youngblood: read carrefully
[15:08] <sebsebseb> deepu: ok your welcome :)
[15:08] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, are you really a doctor?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  i got my degree in 'Loveology'
[15:08] <sebsebseb> deepu: and of course for stuff that isn't in the repo,  you could install yourself, for a lot of it
[15:08] <mbroeker> AndChat-, good afternoon, AndChat-
[15:08] <atarya> pfifo: how do i do that??
[15:08] <lrojas> !info multiverse
[15:09]  * Dr_Willis goes back to trying to get   'figlet Moo | cowsay' working right
[15:09] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, can you write me a perscription for oxycodone 10mg
[15:09] <nastas> youngblood: read pytheas22 post #6
[15:09] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, pfifo thanks something started moving. I did  sudo mount -o bind proc /media/sda5/proc  and sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/sda5/dev then did apt-get update. something went on well.
[15:09] <pfifo> atarya, your not familiar with copy and paste?
[15:09] <fep> i am sorry that i am repeating my question, but if you are not too busy maby you have time to help me, Hello, i booted my computer, and when i logged in, my "wireless and wired" icon on my taskbar (up right corner) was gone, but im connected to internet, where did it go, and how do i put it back there? thanks
[15:09] <AndChat-> Mbroeker: Its Crankygeek :)
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  those binds are normally needed for a full working chroot from what ive seen inn the past
[15:10] <sebsebseb> fep: this might help
[15:10] <sebsebseb> !panels | fep
[15:10] <atarya> pfifo: not in terminal, and not using pastebin
[15:10] <mbroeker> AndChat-, your doHttp error is fixed
[15:10] <AndChat-> No it isnt
[15:10] <sebsebseb> fep: or you can probably right click, and add the applet your self
[15:10] <AndChat-> I was just researching it
[15:10] <atarya> pfifo: i have the output you wanted on my screen - how do i get it to the domain you asked?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> fep:  or run 'mn-applet'
[15:11] <fep> sebsebseb, thank you, the reset worked. do i have to do that everytime i reboot?
[15:11] <sebsebseb> fep: no
[15:11] <pfifo> isnt there a command line tool to use pastebin
[15:11] <fep> :)
[15:11] <sebsebseb> fep: once you have run the reset command, it keeps the changes, unless you change  what it has done of course
[15:11] <fep> oh , sorry, didnt work
[15:11] <fep> my bad
[15:11] <pfifo> atarya, install 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[15:11] <fep> still gone
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> lrojas:  use  the synaptic package manager too; and the package manager settings it has. check  to enable it.
[15:12] <fep> the speaker looked like the wifi icon :p
[15:12] <AndChat-> Mbroeker: sorry i am on my phone so typing is slow
[15:12] <sebsebseb> fep: ok well maybe Dr_Willis can help
[15:12] <fep> sebsebseb, i tried to add, but couldnt find it in the add list
[15:12] <AndChat-> Mbroeker: open a pm
[15:12] <atarya> pfifo: installed
[15:13] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, pfifo now a apt-get upgrade suggests I have to download a heap. Do I reboot as ubuntu and continue? I wish to try how  things have comeup in ubuntu instead on this livecd on which I am surviving.
[15:13] <pfifo> atarya, type 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' and give me the resulting link
[15:13] <frxstrem> is Ubuntu Server suitable for home servers?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  if you chrooted into a ubuntu syste,m and are installing packages.. it should update the installed system.  you will wan tto reboot to get to the full system
[15:13] <administrator_> g
[15:13] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: a home server that does what?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:  i use it all the time for my home servers
[15:14] <administrator_> nihao
[15:14] <sebsebseb> !server | frxstrem
[15:14] <administrator_> FFFFF
[15:14] <atarya> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/LiKxpYq1
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:   I just install the servcices i need on my desktop machines
[15:14] <administrator_> 你好
[15:14] <frxstrem> sebsebseb: well, I want it to run a web server, FTP server, SSH server etc.
[15:14] <sebsebseb> !english |  administrator_
[15:15] <fep> Dr_Willis, none of what yo said works. nothing in addlist to add to panel, no reset do good, and i dont know nm-applet but its running (ps aux)
[15:15] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: yeah you can use it for that
[15:15] <mr_pinc> Anyone know how to enable remote desktop in 10.04 without a monitor connected?
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:  thats rather trivial to setup.
[15:15] <administrator_> ？
[15:15] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: however if you want a graphical user interface, you can do those, in the desktop editon
[15:15] <fep> Dr_Willis, and cant find anything in package manager under settings
[15:15] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, yeah that is the idea. Since some update has been done, I hope I may be able to reboot to ubuntu system. Am I right? earlier I was boot upto command line level. Now I hope gdm will start!
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> fep:  what are you trying to do exactly ?
[15:15] <fep> sebsebseb, what is that icon called anyway?
[15:15] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: however  when it comes to support well
[15:15] <sebsebseb> !lts | frxstrem
[15:15] <pfifo> atarya, do you have an extra keyboard/mouse laying around?
[15:16] <frxstrem> sebsebseb: I do not really need a graphical interface...I won't have a screen connected
[15:16] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: ok server edition should be ok then
[15:16] <administrator_> j
[15:16] <frxstrem> sebsebseb: ok, thanks :)
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:  ive had so many issues with headless machines in the past. :) I always keep a monitor and Mini keyboard on them now a days
[15:16] <fep> Dr_Willis, my "wifi and wired" icon on my taskbar in upper right corner dissappeared when i rebooted, but im connected to internet, i want it back so i can see the wireless netoworks around me
[15:16] <administrator_> X86
[15:16] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: also there are other good distros for servers, such as Debian and CentOS, by the way
[15:16] <atarya> pfifo: i'm using an external mouse
[15:17] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: well those can be used on the desktop as well, but yeah
[15:17] <philinux> fep: you need to ad the indicator applet back to the panel
[15:17] <frxstrem> sebsebseb: I know, but I like Ubuntu a lot, so I'd try it
[15:17] <sebsebseb> frxstrem: ok go with Ubuntu server edition then
[15:17] <atarya> pfifo: and i found another keyboard
[15:17] <philinux> fep: or to reset them to default gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[15:17] <youngblood> nastas, I guess that my ethernet card AR8152 is not supported yet.
[15:18] <philinux> !panel | fep
[15:18] <philinux> !panels | fep
[15:19] <Yautja_Cetanu> I installed a web-based admin for ubuntu server and I've forgotten how to get to it! Can anyone help? Like can I see a list of open ports or something?
[15:19] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> lost of open TCP ports can be done with 'netstat -tnla'
[15:19] <oliver_> I have a atheros-5000 wireless network card in my laptop and when i  had klick on the turn off wireless network button on the computer and cannot start wireless again... heeeelp
[15:19] <Guest98390> If I installed using wubi and I have a swap partiotion set aside how do I activate it so that ubuntu uses it?
[15:19] <fep> thank you very much, after three resets it came back :o)))
[15:19] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> lost/list
[15:19] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, my apt-get update notified= 36 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 6 not upgraded.1259 not fully installed or removed.Need to get 87.3MB/100MB of archives.
[15:19] <ksbalaji> After this operation, 14.1MB disk space will be freed.Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n = I aborted to continue from a reboot. Is it ok?
[15:19] <fep> i would go crazy without your help, thnx
[15:19] <aeon-ltd> Guest98390: mount it in fstab
[15:20] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, thats it?
[15:20] <EDWARD> Hello?
[15:20] <pfifo> atarya, I cant figure it out, everything in X is working just fine. All i can say is reinstall
[15:20] <atarya> pfifo: i don't think that the mouse is broken because the built-in mouse of the laptop dosn't work either
[15:21] <EDWARD> I need help with How to completely Uninstall Ubuntu. Can anyone assist me with this?
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: say wut?
[15:21] <Bob_Dole> I'm currently using dell's spin of Ubuntu 8.04, but I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on another partition. I don't have access to a wired connection, nor a CD burner. I have a thumb drive. is there anyway to put all the required files for installing the broadcom driver on the thumbdrive, and use it in 10.04 as a repo?
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: soz, i wasn't aware of the name change
[15:21] <philinux> EDWARD: what are you replacing it with
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: yeah it is
[15:22] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, yeah sorry about that
[15:22] <EDWARD> Not replacing it with anything. Just want to Uninstall Ubuntu completely.
[15:22] <Tater3000> ok thanks aeon-ltd I'm going to go give that a go
[15:22] <Bob_Dole> Edward, do you have to save anything on the drive?
[15:22] <KukuNut> EDWARD: just wipe it out
[15:23] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, problem, I don't understand the fstab layout, its not as I remember it
[15:23] <ksbalaji> Pray for me. I am quitting this livecd to try booting ubuntu karmic..
[15:23] <blendmaster1024> how do I tell make not to echo the make commands - from within the makefile?
[15:23] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: then once its mounted you just need to do 'swapon -a'
[15:23] <Bob_Dole> if not, you can put an ubuntu livecd in, start up gparted and delete the partitions, then apply the changes, and it'll all be gone.
[15:23] <EDWARD> Yes. My D drive.
[15:23] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, I'm used to /dev/hda3 /mnt/swap swap defaults 0 0
[15:23] <Chell> Hi all. I'm having a problem opening chrome and firefox. Both exit with "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 611: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!"
[15:23] <Chell> I'd like to rtfm... but.. well. Can anyone here help me?
[15:23] <EDWARD> That's my HP factory for Windows 7
[15:24] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none            swap    loop,sw         0       0
[15:24] <Kyle__> How do you blacklist a package?  For whatever reason this system wants to "upgrade" sun's jdk to openjdk.  Generally I'd be OK with that, but openjdk doesn't work with a number of java-webstart apps that are needed.
[15:24] <Tater3000> what is that
[15:24] <blendmaster1024> !rtfm
[15:24] <pfifo> Chell, do you know what an assertation error is?
[15:24] <philinux> EDWARD: was this a wubi install?
[15:24] <EDWARD> Yes
[15:24] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: btw, why do you absolutely need a swap partition? a swap file is basically the same performance wise
[15:24] <Chell> pfifo, no. never heard of it.
[15:24] <philinux> EDWARD: then use add/remove in windows
[15:24] <dv_> how install data base in openofice in ubuntu 10.4
[15:25] <pfifo> Chell what are you doing exactly?
[15:25] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: Actually it's not the same performance wise.
[15:25] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, I'm having a problem with my laptop freezing on me when I go into suspend and was told the lack of a swap partition could be the problem
[15:25] <dv_> anyone can help me
[15:25] <EDWARD> I tried that. It did'nt work.
[15:25] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: especially on rtoating media.
[15:25] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> EDWARD: what is still left of ubuntu?
[15:25] <dv_> how to install data base in openofice in ubuntu 10.4
[15:25] <Bob_Dole> So.. is there a way, without a CD, to install the Broadcom drivers for ubuntu 10.04, with only a USB drive and Ubuntu 8.04 on a networked box?
[15:25] <aeon-ltd> Kyle__: yeah i understand, but can we save the flash/ssd vs rpm debate for !Ot
[15:26] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: :)
[15:26] <Kyle__> Anyone know how to blacklist a package?
[15:26] <Tater3000> Bob_Dole, can you connect to the interweb with an ethernet cable?
[15:26] <Chell> pfifo, starting chromium with dmenu, after immediatly exiting, trying firefox. Firefox started, I can even google, but can't go to any page after that. I get the same error message from both.
[15:26] <dv_> how install data base in openofice in ubuntu 10.4
[15:26] <Bob_Dole> tater3000: nope
[15:26] <dv_> anyone how install data base in openofice in ubuntu 10.4
[15:26] <Chell> pfifo, To get the error message I started both from a terminal.
[15:26] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: do you know your uuid for the swap partition?
[15:27] <LearyIsGod> Hello everybody! I was wondering how I can tell if I have NVidia drivers installed. And how I can permenantly kill the X server so I can install them? Thank yo.
[15:27] <dv_> hello
[15:27] <EDWARD> Everything including Wubi that I removed and then reinstalled. Wubi is now currently in my programs list.
[15:27] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> dv_:  have you tried asking in #openoffice.org?
[15:27] <pfifo> Chell, what distro are you using?
[15:27] <Kyle__> dv_: Do you have any openoffice as it is?
[15:27] <Chell> pfifo, lucid. safe-updated a couple of days ago.
[15:27] <padhu> dv_: use ubuntu software center
[15:28] <pfifo> Chell, have you installed any software that you compiled yourself?
[15:28] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, no and how would I find it?
[15:28] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, this is a wubi install would I be better off just installing from a disc?
[15:28] <Yautja_Cetanu> Does anyone recommend any other web-based admin tool apart from Webmin... I'm a total noob with commandline on my ubuntu server
[15:28] <jrib> !ebox | Yautja_Cetanu
[15:28] <dv_> i was tried din´t work
[15:29] <dv_> but
[15:29] <Yautja_Cetanu> IS ebox better then webmin?
[15:29] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> Yautja_Cetanu: i recommend getting familiar with the command line if you're going to do manage server(s) instead of relying on a webbased tool
[15:29] <Chell> pfifo, yes I have. 1 application. don't exactly know which. Is it important to find out?
[15:29] <Kyle__> Yautja_Cetanu: noob you may be, but it's worth putting in the effort to get familiar with the CLI (command line interface).
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: wubi? wubi does cause a lot more problems that a regular install wouldn't maybe that could be the real cause of your suspend dilemma
[15:29] <Kyle__> Yautja_Cetanu: It wont save you hour's a year, it will save you perhaps _weeks_ a year.
[15:29] <Tater3000> aeon-ltd, I think I'm just going to do a reinstall I very little invested in this one
[15:30] <anirvana> how to install wifi driver on ubuntu 10?
[15:30] <deepu> ohhhhhhhh........wubi will cause problem?
[15:30] <EDWARD> If I do a Windows 7 System "Recovery" will That remove Ubuntu from my HDD?
[15:30] <dv_> i was in helpcenter but i din´t find help
[15:30] <Chell> pfifo, it was nzbget
[15:30] <philinux> dv_: install openoffice.org-base from synaptic
[15:30] <aeon-ltd> Tater3000: ok, good luck with that :)
[15:30] <eein> i thought usb stuff mounted automatically, i have a usb fdd that shows up in computers gui but cannot be accessed, dmesg shows it on sdb and i can mount it manually is there something that istn working i donts see any errors?
[15:30] <Tater3000> thanks
[15:30] <Yautja_Cetanu> Kyle__: ok is the best way to go about doing that by just reading the manual? Or is there a more direct route for learning?
[15:30] <dv_> okay i will try
[15:31] <Kyle__> eein: from the command line, type groups, hit enter, and tell us what you see.  It's probably a permissions issue.
[15:31] <anirvana> how to install wifi driver on ubuntu 10? My system can't detech wireless network now ?
[15:31] <iKoze> hi
[15:31] <mr_pinc> anyone use ps3 media server?
[15:31] <tehowe> Anyone know how to get dbus (which I don't even know what that is) to work over an ssh connection? When I attempt to use any tracker/metatracker commands from a remote shell it says "Cound not establish a dbus connection to tracker"
[15:31] <Kyle__> Yautja_Cetanu: Reading the manual start to finish is a good step!  If/when you have questions, hop into irc and ask.
[15:32] <eein> Kyle__: adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[15:32] <pfifo> Chell, an assertion error is an error the is cause on purpose by the developers of software by using the function assert(), it is used to simulate a crash condition. an assertion error can on be raised if the program was compiled in debug mode, during a normal compilation of the program gcc will remove/ignore any call to assert
[15:32] <blendmaster1024> I told my command line to 'make me a sandwitch'
[15:32] <Kyle__> Yautja_Cetanu: You could also spend some hours reading random articles here : http://tldp.org/
[15:32] <philinux> mr_pinc: I used fuppes with ps3
[15:32] <eein> Kyle__: i would think it falls under plugdev
[15:32] <eein> the fdd that is
[15:32] <Kyle__> eein: I think you need to be in the floppy group :)
[15:33] <EDWARD> If I do a Windows 7 System "Recovery" will That remove Ubuntu from my HDD?
[15:33] <LearyIsGod> mr_pinc: I Use it
[15:33] <mr_pinc> philinux: does it have the same or better feature set to ps3ms?
[15:33] <philinux> mr_pinc: no idea sorry
[15:33] <pfifo> Chell, so basically, somehow you have a program/library that was compiled in debug mode. according to your error its on line 611 of dl-open.c
[15:33] <blendmaster1024> http://pastebin.com/M6wBfLJM
[15:33] <CR0W> How can I mount a fat-32 partition so that non-root user can access it?
[15:33] <Kyle__> eein: plugdev is for general usb-mass-storage I think.
[15:33] <fsgxdroid> Hi, I would like to broadcast desktop via Skype, what i need to install to get Desktop Video Device??
[15:34] <Kyle__> CR0W: Mount it normally.  Chmod the mount point approrpiately.
[15:34] <delac> anyone have any knowledge of 3G modem getting stuck after few connection attempts?
[15:34] <philinux> mr_pinc: http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/ the other to try  is mediatomb
[15:34] <dv_> any know how to custumizate  de ubuntu distr
[15:34] <Kyle__> CR0W: I know, sounds unhelpful.  Mount it, then chmod a+rx <mountpoint>
[15:34] <Kyle__> CR0W: whatever your mountpoint is.
[15:34] <kosaidpo> hello
[15:34] <CR0W> Kyle__ tried chmod, doesn't work
[15:34] <kosaidpo>  is ther an officiel source so ican get the latest info developement aqnd stuff
[15:34] <Kyle__> CR0W: what does it do?
[15:34] <CR0W> Kyle__ should I umount before chmod?
[15:34] <CR0W> Kyle___ nothing, the flags stay as they were
[15:34] <Kyle__> CR0W: You shouldn't have to, but if you're having problems, yes.
[15:35] <dv_> I want create my linu distro
[15:35] <Kyle__> CR0W: What are the flags now?
[15:35] <LearyIsGod> Hey all.. how can I tell what X graphics driver I am using?
[15:35] <philinux> mr_pinc: mediatomb is in synaptic
[15:35] <CR0W> Kyle__ rwxr xr x root root
[15:35] <EDWARD> Have I come to the wrong place here for any help?
[15:35] <CR0W> Kyle__ tried a=rwx
[15:35] <aeon-ltd> dv_: you mean from scratch?
[15:35] <Kyle__> CR0W: That's good.  That should be enough for any user to get into that directory.
[15:35] <Chell> pfifo, Ok... I'm following so far ;) But quitting the program (nzbget) doesn't make a difference. How can that be? Offcourse I can remove the program alltogether (or recompile) but how can that influence firefox/chrome?
[15:35] <dv_> ya
[15:35] <dv_> yeah
[15:35] <mr_pinc> yeah i tried media tomb, was not happy with it
[15:35] <pie_time> !ask | EDWARD
[15:35] <eein> Kyle__: ahh there is a floppy in /etc/groups and i am not a member by default, odd but thank you for the help
[15:36] <aeon-ltd> dv_: uhh, then you better start build kernels :)
[15:36] <CR0W> Kyle__ ok try to umount it first
[15:36] <Kyle__> CR0W: Ahh.  Tell me how you are mounted.
[15:36] <dv_> how
[15:36] <pfifo> Chell, i found this on google http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/chat/thread?tid=10ffe01c3a4779f5&hl=en&fid=10ffe01c3a4779f500048e4e32e57ab6
[15:36] <Kyle__> CR0W: Good.
[15:36] <aeon-ltd> dv_: google 'compile kernels'
[15:36] <EDWARD> I di.A long time ago now.
[15:36] <Chell> pfifo, thanks... ;)
[15:36] <dv_> okay
[15:36] <Chell> pfifo, can't read it.
[15:36] <CR0W> Kyle__ fstab, options defaults 0 0
[15:36] <dv_> I will try
[15:36] <pfifo> Chell, ohh, of course
[15:36] <EDWARD> I want to completely REMOVE Ubuntu from my system.
[15:36] <aeon-ltd> dv_: there is a easier way though but its not from scratch, you could look up 'reconstructor'
[15:36] <Kyle__> CR0W: try putting defaults,rw.  Who knows, it may be "defaulting" to ro for fat32.  I know it does for ntfs.
[15:37] <pie_time> EDWARD, ask in ##windows
[15:37] <zzzed> dv_, start with trying out LFS (linux from scratch)
[15:37] <CR0W> Kyle__ tried rw, also doesnt work
[15:37] <dv_> where i cann find the reconstructor
[15:37] <Chell> pfifo, did the compilation of nzbget make permanent alterations which affect other programs?
[15:37] <EDWARD> What?
[15:37] <fep> When i restart my computer, or turn it off and on the boot (ubuntu) freeze before it looks like it do anything. But, when i go into the bios first, and restore to system default (even if the settings are already default) ubuntu boots fine only after. Why is that? i have a HP pavilion dv6-3090. (All rescuedisk and crap are removed, the disk are clean)
[15:37] <aeon-ltd> dv_: google :)
[15:37] <pfifo> Chell, i PMed it to you
[15:37] <Slart> EDWARD: you don't usually just "remove" an operating system ... you replace it with something else
[15:38] <pfifo> Chell, no its chrome that is messed up
[15:38] <wessel_> hello, how can I make my bash shell auto complete when there are multiple options? I want it to complete give the first option in the alphabetical order, instead of listing all the options in the screen.
[15:38] <fsgxdroid> Hi, i need screen capture device to broadcast my desktop via Skype. What i need to install for it?
[15:38] <Kyle__> CR0W: OK.  Well unmount, change the permissions of the mount point, remount, then type mount on the cli, and tell us what it's mounted as....
[15:38] <root____> need help with installing ATI Radeon 9200 pro driver
[15:38] <Slart> EDWARD: unless it's a dual boot system.. but then you would really just have to replace the boot sector to something that would fit your other os
[15:38] <EDWARD> No. Not replacing. Just want to get rid of it.
[15:38] <CR0W> Kyle__ I changed to rwx for all then mounted the it changed back to rwx for root only
[15:38] <bimmerman1911> please help, i have a 180 GB ext4 partition with ubuntu on. it says i have 180 GB capacity, 0 bytes free and 7,7 GB used!_
[15:39] <wessel_> brb restart
[15:39] <Kyle__> CR0W: can non-root users cd into there and read the files at all?
[15:39] <EDWARD> It is dual boot.
[15:39] <CR0W> Kyle__ yes they have read but no write
[15:39] <baltazar2> Im trying to install stuff from the repository to an offline computer. Got the recommendation to use Synaptic and offline script, but on the offline computer synaptic dosent show all packages (emacs for example). How can i fix that?
[15:39] <Kyle__> CR0W: Hum.  What does mount say?
[15:39] <Chell> pfifo, thanks! I'll try that.
[15:39] <CR0W> Kyle__ when?
[15:40] <dv_> okay aeon-ltd
[15:40] <CR0W> Kyle__ i mount with mount -a
[15:40] <Kyle__> CR0W: if you type mount all by itself on the command line, it tells you what your current mounts are, and how they are mounted.
[15:40] <Slart> EDWARD: dual boot with what? os/2? windows? DOS? openbsb?
[15:40] <siddhartha> how to develop asp.net pages in ubuntu?
[15:40] <CR0W> Kyle__ how to mount directly i mean how to specify flags?
[15:40] <bimmerman1911> does anybody know, how can 170 GB just dissapera on a ext4 partition_
[15:40] <aeon-ltd> bimmerman1911: downloading stuff?
[15:41] <philinux> EDWARD: a suggestion. Delete all wubi folders then use this guide to re install the windows boot loader. Section #16 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[15:41] <tracy69> people im bored :(
[15:41] <siddhartha> is it possible to develop asp.net pages in ubuntu
[15:41] <Slart> bimmerman1911: haven't had that problem with my drives.. how are you checking remainging space? emptied the trashcan?
[15:41] <aeon-ltd> bimmerman1911: disaappear how? partition shrunk or space used up?
[15:41] <pfifo> bimmerman1911, run e2fsck
[15:41] <Slart> tracy69: I hear they've got a cure for that.. in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:41] <bollullera> hola!
[15:41] <Kyle__> CR0W: to mount directly you'd type mount -t auto -o rw /dev/(whatever your drive is) /path/to/wherver/you/are/mounting
[15:41] <CR0W> Kyle__ > sudo mount /dev/sda9 /media/B --> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   16384 1970-01-01 01:00 B
[15:41] <wessel_> Does anyone understand my question, I don't really know the technical lingo, I think auto complete is what you call it?
[15:41] <bimmerman1911> the partition only contains 3,8 GB of files
[15:41] <siddhartha> is developing asp.net in ubuntu possible ?
[15:41] <philinux> tracy69: try installing maverick on a dual boot.
[15:42] <Slart> siddhartha: yes
[15:42] <bimmerman1911> e2fsck shows no problems
[15:42] <dv_> i will need internett connetion for build my own  linux?
[15:42] <Kyle__> siddhartha: yes, using mono.
[15:42] <siddhartha> slart how ?
[15:42] <Kyle__> siddhartha: Or gnu.not.
[15:42] <Kyle__> siddhartha: sorry gnu.net.
[15:42] <zzzed> siddhartha, look at package 'mono'
[15:42] <Kyle__> dot.gnu whatever they call it.
[15:42] <aeon-ltd> dv_: yes.
[15:42] <dv_> okay
[15:42] <atarya> need help with installing ATI Radeon 9200 pro driver
[15:42] <rgnr> hey
[15:42] <CR0W> Kyle__ > did as you wrote and still nope
[15:43] <rgnr> i need help partitioning 400G
[15:43] <rgnr> any1 experienced plz hlp
[15:43] <mr_pinc> dammit the ps3media server is running but now showing up on my desktop :P
[15:43] <siddhartha> kyle__ thx
[15:43] <pfifo> rgnr, make 40 10gb partitions
[15:43] <Kyle__> CR0W: Now that it's mounted, type mount all by itself, and hit enter. Toss the output in pastebin.
[15:43] <Kyle__> !patesbin
[15:43]  * Kyle__ pokes ubottu 
[15:43] <Kyle__> ubottu: pastebin
[15:43] <bimmerman1911> can files somehow be hidden from filesystem properties_
[15:44] <tracy69> philinux, i did on vbox but maverick crashes to much
[15:44] <bimmerman1911> or from disk usage analyser
[15:44] <pfifo> bimmerman1911,  pastebin the output of df -i
[15:44] <dv_> can I change all things with recontructor
[15:44] <CR0W> Kyle__ > http://pastebin.com/iyPSBHc5
[15:44] <atarya> ATI Radeon 9200 pro driver installation help plz
[15:44] <zzzed> !partition rgnr
[15:44] <dv_> thigs like wallpaper
[15:44] <dv_> and more
[15:44] <baltazar2> How can I make all packages appear in synaptic on an offline computer? (want to install via download script)
[15:44] <Chell> pfifo, It doesn't work. It found all the .so files, at least it didn't give an error message, but still thesame result.
[15:45] <zzzed> !partition | rgnr
[15:45] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hey folks... so I've found the cause of why cpio segfaults, and I'm trying to report it to debian
[15:45] <CR0W> Kyle__ those two on the end are the problematic
[15:45] <pfifo> chell maybe try removint chrome and firefox, then reinstall firefox and see what happens
[15:45] <rgnr> pfifo:  why
[15:45] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> now I've tried using their reportbug tool... but no idea if the bug report got there or not!
[15:45] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> any ideas what channel I can go to?
[15:45] <CR0W> Kyle__ oddly I have ntfs partition also mounted with defaults and no problem (xp-data)
[15:45] <Kyle__> CR0W: are any of those workign?  sdb1 sda8 sda9?
[15:46] <rgnr> zzzed:  i know how to partition
[15:46] <bimmerman1911> http://pastebin.com/DNpwGMGV
[15:46] <CR0W> Kyle__ all work but sda8, sda9 with read only
[15:46] <sacarlson> baltazar2: you can create a dvd with all the packages you want to have that can be installed offline
[15:46] <rgnr> zzzed:  i wanna know which mounts r really practical
[15:46] <bimmerman1911> running from live disc, sda1 is usual root
[15:46] <CR0W> Kyle__ sdb1 is a data traveler
[15:46] <baltazar2> sacarlson: nice, how?
[15:46] <rgnr> zzzed:  like /, /usr, /home, /var, /tmp etc
[15:47] <sacarlson> baltazar2: to start http://hubpages.com/hub/Ubuntu-Offline-Upgrade
[15:47] <Kyle__> CR0W: maybe this is just some ubuntu weirdness that I'm unfamiliar with, because what we're doing should work.
[15:47] <EDWARD> philinux Will simply doing a System Recovery in Windows erase / remove the Ubuntu OS?
[15:47] <CR0W> Kyle__ could it be that fat32 jus doens't support permissions?
[15:47] <Kyle__> CR0W: But.... since it's not.  Try copying in some of the settings that it's using for sdb1.
[15:47] <Kyle__> CR0W: fat32 doesnt' support permissions, but it _should_ use the permissions of the mount point to determine who can write to it.
[15:47] <CR0W> Kyle__ okay I'll try
[15:47] <zzzed> rgnr, 20-40G for /, twice physical memory for /swap, rest for /home
[15:48] <bimmerman1911> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/DNpwGMGV
[15:48] <Kyle__> CR0W: If you use the uid/guid settings though, it will restrict it to that user.  I'm guessing 1000 is you.
[15:48] <sacarlson> baltazar2: you might also want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=760292
[15:48] <pfifo> bimmerman1911, so what exactly happend?
[15:48] <CR0W> Kyle__ I check in etc passwd
[15:48] <baltazar2> sacarlson: thanks checking it out now
[15:48] <EDWARD> philinux Will simply doing a Windows System Recovery remove / erase the Ubuntu OS from my HDD?
[15:48] <dv_> hey guys i can change all things
[15:48] <CR0W> Kyle__ > you that's me, I'll try this
[15:49] <Kyle__> CR0W: Good luck.  I gotta head out.
[15:49] <CR0W> Kyle__ > thanks
[15:49] <voidmage> hey my gwibber stopped updating from twitter some time yesterday, is twitter broken or gwibber?
[15:49] <bimmerman1911> pfifo, nothing happend really just that the partition run out of space but there isnt eaven closes to that amount of data there
[15:50] <dv_> HEY ANYONE can help?
[15:50] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, Thanks. Things have started to move. Now, my ubuntu recovery mode is working. But, aptitude is unable to function for want of writable permissions. How to change this in recovery O/S mode?
[15:50] <pfifo> bimmerman1911, so it says there is 140gb freespace, but it wont let you write anything to it?
[15:50] <bimmerman1911> pfifo, df -h http://pastebin.com/qsN9yEmN
[15:50] <Chell> pfifo, well, the reinstall did it (from within synaptic). Thanx!
[15:51]  * Chell is a happy camper again ;)
[15:51] <user43890> hello all. is there a screenshot capture program that can capture windows that aren't fully displayed on the screen (ie, a Nautilus window that extends below the panel)?
[15:51] <pfifo> chell enjoy
[15:51] <bimmerman1911> pfifo, it tells me that im all out of space
[15:51] <sacarlson> user43890: wow that's a new one. can you install compiz?
[15:52] <pfifo> bimmerman, well it looks that way to me, are you sure your harddrive isnt full?
[15:52] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, pfifo in other words, how to make dpkg and aptitude function in a recovery boot environment?
[15:52] <bimmerman1911> pfifo, but there is actually only 3,8 Gb on it
[15:52] <deepu> wat are the usefull packages that each ubuntu users will have?
[15:52] <user43890> sacarlson: Yes, I could, but I'm really just looking for a simple screengrab application, like scrot.
[15:52] <pfifo> bimmerman1911, pastebin this 'du -chs /media/7e8132ac-8aa5-4948-aecf-6c0f39fe9280'
[15:53] <kosaidpo> can you anyone  tell me from where ican get all the new info of development of maverick and featured apps
[15:53] <kosaidpo> tnx
[15:53] <sacarlson> user43890: even after thinking about it not sure it will work but I zoom in on windows in compiz but can you zoom out?
[15:53] <user43890> sacarlson: I'm actually on a windows box right now :(
[15:53] <slidinghorn> kosaidpo, have you joined the developers mailing list on launchpad?
[15:53] <dv_> in google
[15:54] <kosaidpo> no
[15:54] <kosaidpo> for mavereick ?
[15:54] <mobal> hi
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  from the grub 'recovery' entry it should work
[15:54] <kosaidpo> ant wht abt featured apps
[15:54] <sacarlson> user43890: tell you the truth I don't know.  but very good question.
[15:54] <mobal> can i rip dvd using nvidia cuda?
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  ive chrooted into installed systems and installed packages befor also
[15:54] <wessel_> hello, how can I make the PgUp and PgDn key make the bash console scroll up and down?
[15:54] <mobal> and with what program if i can?
[15:55] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> wessel_: try holding shift
[15:55] <aeon-ltd> mobal: say wut? you'd rip a dvd with a dvd drive, cuda wouln't speed anything up besides the re encoding part
[15:55] <wessel_> ah, that works! thanks
[15:55] <user43890> sacarlson: yeah, programs like this are abundant in Windows, but I haven't found a Linux alternative.
[15:55] <CR0W> Kyle__ > works! :) It turns out for vfat you need to specify a user or it will set to the user from witch mounting
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> mobal:  handbrake is popular for that.
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> mobal:  or dvd::rip
[15:55] <mobal> thanks
[15:55] <mobal> yeah
[15:55] <tehowe> wessel_: Cool, I didn't know that either :)
[15:55] <mobal> really sorry so encode using cuda
[15:55] <CR0W> Kyle__ and no file permisions available
[15:56] <sacarlson> user43890: I have a eeepc that I have to pan to see the screen so I have some connections but I just pan to see what I want
[15:56] <tehowe> Anyone know how to get dbus (which I don't even know what that is) to work over an ssh connection? When I attempt to use any tracker/metatracker commands from a remote shell it says "Cound not establish a dbus connection to tracker"
[15:56] <pfifo> should I use 10w40 or 5w30 in my ubuntu install?
[15:57] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, Do you suggest that I do not reboot from here? - I tried to reboot to a recovery kernel and operate dpkg and aptitude from there. It failed.
[15:57] <bimmerman1911> pfifo, i think that gave me the answer actually, seams to be as simple as some hidden files in the home directory! Thanx!
[15:57] <pfifo> bimmerman1911, yeah i figured it was accurate. have a good one
[15:57] <user43890> sacarlson: yeah, but say I want to capture a window that is larger than my display. Some of the window isn't visible on the screen. I have to believe there's a screenshot program that will be able to capture that entire window, whether or not it is visible on my screen.
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  odd that it failed.. the recovery console/kernel entry is just  a more basic bootup of the normal system. whats failing exactly with it?
[15:58] <dv_> rr
[15:58] <sacarlson> user43890: well did you try ctl-printscreen  I never did
[15:58] <sacarlson> user43890: I assume it only gets what you see
[15:59] <user43890> sacarlson: yeah, i'm pretty sure that's the issue.
[15:59] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, there are four entries at the mbr display which I can choose. Two regular kernels and two recovery kernels. Only one recovery kernel successfully completes upto commandline accepting level.
[16:00] <user43890> sacarlson: I mean, X is still serving the window, whether or not it fits on my display...
[16:00] <sacarlson> user43890: ya and there are headless xservers so there must be a way
[16:00] <dt_> ubuntu devs: is there finally going to be an xchat ambiance icon in 10.10 ? :P
[16:00] <dt_> someone please create one. i hate the orange icon heh
[16:00] <dv_> i just install the reconstructor
[16:01] <swald> Hello world
[16:01] <dv_> what the next step
[16:01] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, I feel that recovery mode does not allow write permissions for system folders to be handled by either dpkg or aptitude.
[16:01] <swald> Can i trace data access on my ubuntu server ?
[16:01] <user43890> sacarlson: thanks for the help; back to work for me!
[16:01] <swald> please
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  you are useing sudo as needed?
[16:02] <ksbalaji> Yes. I did.
[16:03] <swald> user toto - access succeeded to file toto ... with time infomraiton
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  see ifyou can just edit/make a file in the locations.. it could be some deeper issue
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  if a hard drive is seen as 'failing' it can get remounted read only as a 'failsafe' measuer
[16:03] <ksbalaji> Dr_Willis, But recovery mode is for root users only -Is it not so?
[16:03] <swald> Nobody ?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji:  i rarely need to use recovery mode
[16:04] <Pici> swald: Have you looked at /var/log/auth.log ?
[16:04] <coz_> swald,  I cant help with this one  and if no one here can you could also try ##linux channel
[16:04] <swald> Pici, thanks
[16:05] <askhader> What is wrong with this cron job? * * * * * /home/askhader/net/perl/randbg.pl
[16:05] <swald> Pici, but auth.log it is just for authentification not for access to files
[16:05] <sacarlson> askhader: isn't there too many *'s
[16:05] <Yautja_Cetanu> I'm having problems with my ftp server. I am using webmin and ubuntu server edition. Before I couldn't delete things now the whole thing won't work
[16:05] <Pici> swald: Correct.
[16:05] <jussi> !webmin
[16:05] <askhader> sacarlson: No
[16:06] <CR0W> Can /boot partition be read/write ?
[16:06] <Yautja_Cetanu> Is it easy to uninstall webmin?
[16:07] <sacarlson> askhader:  seems some of the 5 * need to have numbers in them.  but I could be wrong  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[16:07] <kek> where does "Ubuntu Software Center" install stuff? is this separate from debian packages?
[16:07] <xuekan> .clear
[16:07] <pfifo> CR0W, yes
[16:07] <askhader> sacarlson: You are wrong.
[16:07] <Pici> kek: It uses apt just like any other method of installing apt packages on Ubuntu.
[16:07] <Guest68331> hello
[16:08]  * rentung sleepy
[16:08] <deepu> wat is mean by .deb and .gz?
[16:08] <rentung> huaaa
[16:08] <sacarlson> askhader: example of what works: 10 * * * * /home/sacarlson/scripts/updatedns.sh -u sacarlson -p scottc >/home/sa
[16:08] <kek> Pici, oops... was working in the wrong terminal, logged in by ssh to another computer :)
[16:08] <Pici> askhader: Correct, you don't need numbers for any of them. That line you posted means that it should run every minute.  Is that pl file executable?
[16:09] <Pici> sacarlson: * * * * * means run every minute
[16:09] <askhader> Pici: Yes and it's not running
[16:09] <xuekan> is anyone here speak chinese?
[16:09] <Pici> !zh | xuekan
[16:09] <sacarlson> Pici: I didn't know that
[16:09] <coz_> deepu,  .deb is native package for ubuntu  and debian and will install  easily   .gz  if a compressed  package  and most likely needs to be compiled
[16:09] <askhader> Pici: Perms on it are -rwxr-xr-x
[16:09] <dv_> anyone you can help how peer to peer with antena
[16:09] <dv_> parabolic
[16:10] <Pici> askhader: Two things to check: Does your .pl file include a shebang on the first line for the path to perl? Is there a newline at the end of your crontab?
[16:10] <majster_> can i use this chat to my live trans
[16:10] <sacarlson> askhader: then must be a problem with the perl script?
[16:10] <askhader> sacarlson: The perl script executes without error
[16:10] <askhader> And has the desired deffect
[16:10] <deepu> ohhhhhh........    .gz only have source code...then v have to compile it right?
[16:10] <askhader> Pici: There is no newline...
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> majster_:  Clarify what you mean.
[16:10] <xuekan> Pici:thanks, the only problem of #Ubuntu_cn is there are almost have noone in the room.
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> deepu:  it depends on what you download.
[16:11] <Pici> askhader: There needs to be.
[16:11] <askhader> Pici: Adding now, let's see if this works.
[16:11] <blendmaster1024> how do I detect what VT is active from the command line? this has to work from bash scripts running under X too.
[16:11] <sacarlson> askhader: running with the wrong user?
[16:11] <sysf1> my is ubuntu new user
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> blendmaster1024:  check the 'set' command see if theres a variable set somewhere to the info,
[16:11] <chapmant> configuration question for you guys.
[16:12] <askhader> sacarlson: It is executable by all.
[16:12] <askhader> sacarlson: I already posted the permissions.
[16:12] <chapmant> where's the configuration setting to make my mouse stop moving to new windows when i open them?
[16:12] <deepu> can i say .deb is equivalent to .exe in windows?
[16:12] <jpds> deepu: No.
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> deepu:  thats incorrect.
[16:12] <chapmant> i can't find it anywhere, and it's driving be bonkers.
[16:12] <askhader> Pici still seems to be not be working.
[16:12] <deepu> why both will execute
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> deepu:  a .deb is technically an archive.
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> deepu:  you dont execute a .deb
[16:13] <blendmaster1024> deepu: compare .deb more to .zip
[16:13] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: Console VTs are different than ptys inside an X11 environment.  What are you trying to do?
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> deepu:  you install it...
[16:13] <jpds> deepu: A .deb contains the .exe and it's needed libraries (it can depend on other .debs to run).
[16:13] <sacarlson> askhader: I hope you saw (10:10:06 PM) Pici:  statment
[16:13] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: trying to detect what vt is active. you know - ctrl+alt+F[0-12]?
[16:13] <jpds> deepu: It is an archive so it can contain multiple .exe's, etc.
[16:14] <elliot_>  You know Ubuntu releases are like alpha 1, 2, 3 etc what does that mean?
[16:14] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: Why?  Describe what you're trying to accomplish.
[16:14] <chapmant> Anyone?  Please?
[16:14] <deepu> ohhh...thx
[16:14] <tehowe> Hmmmn. Firefox twitter plugins seem to be breaking with the OAuth rollover, and blaming the OS and/or Firefox 'can't get OAuth' connection
[16:14] <askhader> sacarlson: Wow, so for you've said nothing useful.
[16:14] <Pici> askhader: There should be an entry in /var/log/auth.log for cron when it tries to run the job, is there one there? (something like: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user $user)
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> elliot_:  just the stages of testing untill its 'rc' (release canadite) (almost done) and then  'Final'
[16:14] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: chvt to a specific VT when the VT is changed off
[16:14] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: I'm working on a kiosk system
[16:14] <askhader> Pici: Hundreds of line that says Sep  1 11:14:01 lambda CRON[28176]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user askhader by (uid=0)
[16:15] <sacarlson> askhader:  as far as I know you are correct nothing.
[16:15] <elliot_> ah cool. I could not download 1 or 2 for 10.10 so I got 3
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> elliot_:  that makes sence.
[16:15] <deepu> ubuntu is free of cost so from where v get supports?
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> elliot_:   the 'daily build' version is redone daily, :)
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> deepu:  you can buy comercial support.. depending on wha tyou need in 'support'
[16:16] <blendmaster1024> deepu: here
[16:16] <askhader> Pici: Does this mean that Ubuntu reports the cron job as being run?
[16:16] <deepu> ok
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> deepu:  then theres here and the forums.. and of course the internet..
[16:16] <Pici> askhader: And theres a shebang on the first line of the script? like: #!/path/to/perl
[16:16] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: Console VTs stay 'active' in the background.  From userland, they behave no differently in the foreground or background.  You probably need to peek a kernel value from /proc or /sys, which means that you need to read the kernel Documentation/.
[16:16] <blendmaster1024> deepu: just remember that since it's free support it will be of slightly lower quality when people are not feeling like helping
[16:16] <deepu> mmmmmm....ya ya
[16:16] <askhader> Pici: #!/usr/bin/env per
[16:16] <deepu> v the people give supports ..........right?
[16:16] <askhader> Or is just /usr/bin/perl preferred?
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> I often wonder what paid commercial support people actually 'support' do they help people learn bash and so forth? :)
[16:17] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: well I know they're still ... eh ... 'live'. but only one can be shown on the display at the time. I want to lock it to a specific one.
[16:17] <Pici> askhader: No, that should be fine.
[16:17] <CR0W> One more question: is it safe to upgrade from karmic to lucid or would it be better to do a reinstall and if i make an upgrade can I prevent uprader from removing things (as it eg wants to remove xscreensaver)
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> askhader:  t the usr/bin/env way is more 'system agnostic/correct'  :)
[16:17] <CR0W> ?
[16:17] <askhader> Dr_Willis: Hehe
[16:17] <askhader> Well I changed it, it has no effect. The cron job is still being neglecte4d.
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> CR0W:  you could always reinstall them
[16:17] <askhader> neglected, even.
[16:17] <dv_> hey Dr Wills how ica do for install dpkg inlinux from scratch
[16:17] <blendmaster1024> CR0W: depends. upgrading can be recommended, depending on how crazy you've been with your system.
[16:18] <CR0W> Dr_willis I know I;m just lazy
[16:18] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: Consider using one VT and using `screen` to front your kiosk.  `screen` is easier to script, and is more likely to be portable.
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> dv_:  rephrase that question please..
[16:18] <Pici> dv_: This channel is only for Ubuntu support.  We do not support LFS here.
[16:18] <CR0W> blendmaster1024 > just want it to work a few months :)
[16:18] <dv_> okay
[16:18] <Pici> askhader: If the cron lines in your auth.log are there, then it should be running.
[16:18] <dv_> sorry
[16:19] <askhader> Pici: The perl script has a very distinct effect. If I run it, the wallpaper of my background changes.
[16:19] <dv_> anyone can give-me chanel of linux from scratch
[16:19] <askhader> Pici: Is there a way for me to create a logfile?
[16:19] <seekwill> dv_: lfs?
[16:19] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: the problem is that when they switch away from the main kiosk VT, they can log in to the shells in the other VTs
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> dv_:  check the LFS homepage perhaps.. or just GUess and try #LFS
[16:19] <askhader> Pici: To log any errors or output from the script?
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> dv_:  You have read the LFS book/guides?
[16:19] <dv_> okay
[16:20] <dv_> no
[16:20] <eraggo> I use 'watch sensors' to view my computer temperatures. Do you know what is so called "temp3"? I know what are temp1 and temp2 (since i see both in BIOS). And another thing to this: temp3 is almost always higher than 60 degrees C...
[16:20] <Pici> askhader: At the end of the line: >> /path/to/log 2>&1
[16:20] <seekwill> eraggo: What are the other two?
[16:20] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024:  Your security model is broken.  Disable the unused VTs and/or jail the untrusted users and/or chroot your users.
[16:21] <eraggo> seekwill: CPU core temp and...
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> dv_:  IF you plan on using 'LFS' then  you Will need to be reading the LFS guide..
[16:21] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: There are a variety of ways to handle untrusted users.  You may want to look at things like the LTSP.
[16:21] <sacarlson> askhader: I should have asked to see what was in you *.pl file but maybe you need this DISPLAY=:0.0 to do xserver stuf
[16:21] <askhader> sacarlson: It could be.
[16:21] <askhader> Because it's a 'feh' command
[16:21] <uRock> does the ubuntu server for freenode block crunchbang? I am trying to connect and every time it connects, xchat closes on me
[16:22] <Yautja_Cetanu> What is the difference between Zentyal and Ebox?
[16:22] <deepu> wat is mean by mount point?
[16:22] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: chroot can't do X last I checked, but also I want to be able to lock someone out of their X session. my idea is to switch them to another VT and then stop them from changing back, then once I'm done locking them out change back.
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> uRock:  I cant imagine why it would..
[16:22] <Pici> uRock: No, its just a straight CNAME to chat.freenode.net.  #freenode would be your best bet for connection questions.
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> uRock:  i cant even imagine how it can tell what disrto you are using.. could be an IRC client issue
[16:23] <coonlokht> exit
[16:23] <askhader> sacarlson: Do you have any interest in looking at the script?
[16:23] <uRock> Dr_Willis, thanks, I'll give chatzilla a try
[16:23] <sacarlson> askhader: sure why not
[16:23] <eraggo> seekwill: temp1 and tem2 are system and cpu temperatures
[16:23] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: You're doing something for which several solutions are available.  Don't reinvent the wheel -- go do some reading on system hardening and handling untrusted sessions.
[16:23] <sacarlson> askhader: but in my present state of intoxication I can't promiss much
[16:24] <askhader> sacarlson: http://pastebin.ca/1930546
[16:24] <askhader> It's all good
[16:24] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: ok, what would you recommend I google to start this?
[16:24] <area51pilot> :)
[16:24] <dogmatic69> hi all
[16:24] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: LTSP,  maybe SELinux.  Also check some userland solutions like the kiosk plugins for Firefox.
[16:25] <seekwill> eraggo: I remember one being like an on-core/die temp or something, and another one under the socket
[16:25] <eraggo> seekwill: duh? o.O
[16:25] <ilovefairuz> blendmaster1024: what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:25] <area51pilot> :)
[16:25] <dogmatic69> if i do sudo xyz and enter my pw all is good, but trying us <return> enter pw gives auth fail... (im kinda new to linux and dont know what pw that could be)
[16:25] <Schmorgluck> I'm considering reverting back to Jaunty, but I'm hesitant on the method
[16:26] <dogmatic69> anyone know... i have been told its the same as sudo but its *not* on my pc
[16:26] <eraggo> seekwill: so uhm... temp3 is now 70 degrees and only gnome-terminal in use..
[16:26] <ilovefairuz> d
[16:26] <ilovefairuz> !root | dogmatic69
[16:26] <blendmaster1024> ilovefairuz: a classroom solution similar to lanschool but for linux. I'm trying to replace lanschool because it has huge security holes.
[16:26] <askhader> Are there restrictions on what can be in a crontabbed script?
[16:26] <askhader> Can system commands be run from with in?
[16:27] <dogmatic69> ilovefairuz: right i see
[16:27] <sacarlson> askhader: I get no man on feh
[16:27] <Schmorgluck> is there any clean way to downgrade from Karmic to Jaunty without reinstalling completely?
[16:27] <askhader> Look, I have nmy script writing the exact command it will execute (system command) and clearly that command is not being executed because it's a valid feh command
[16:27] <blendmaster1024> Schmorgluck: no.
[16:27] <eraggo> seekwill: for me (i think) 70 degrees under processors is kind of high
[16:28] <Schmorgluck> aww
[16:28] <dogmatic69> ilovefairuz: so how do i see what is in /var/lib/mysql/...
[16:28] <Schmorgluck> I guess I'll have to do this overnight, then
[16:28] <sacarlson> askhader: so maybe feh need a total path?  and or I need the source for that.
[16:29] <ilovefairuz> dogmatic69: see what exactly? a list of the files? sudo ls /var/lib/mysql
[16:29] <ilovefairuz> dogmatic69: if you want a root shell, sudo -i
[16:29] <seekwill> eraggo: What I'm saying is that one of those temps might be the CPU reported temp, from the core itself. The other ones are from sensors on the motherboard
[16:29] <Arepie> Hello.. i just finishing installing ubuntu server. why i can't use "unalias" and "cp" command? how can i enable it?
[16:30] <look> My network manager has disabled itself and i cannot access the internet with it.
[16:30] <dogmatic69> ilovefairuz: cool thanks
[16:30] <dogmatic69> i was trying sudo cd /var/... :P
[16:30] <eraggo> seekwill: oh.. :) thanks. However; do you think i need/can decrease that temperature?
[16:30] <blendmaster1024> dogmatic69: hahahaha
[16:31] <dogmatic69> hey, only been using ubuntu for a week
[16:31] <Schmorgluck> because since I upgraded to Karmic, I have many issues, the main one being the complete impossibility to make my video card work properly
[16:31] <look> my network manager has stopped working it says that its disabled for some reason but the last time i used ubuntu it was just fine is there anyway i can reenable it?
[16:31] <dogmatic69> how do i "logout" the root shell?
[16:31] <blendmaster1024> use it some more, tell us about it, someone with a sense of command line humor is always needed, dogmatic69
[16:31] <seekwill> eraggo: Are you an EE?
[16:31] <dogmatic69> sudo -i thing?
[16:31] <zzzed> dogmatic69, 'exit'
[16:31] <look> dogmatic69: type exit
[16:31] <eraggo> seekwill: EE?
[16:31] <dogmatic69> cool
[16:32] <seekwill> eraggo: Guess that's a no...
[16:32] <seekwill> eraggo: Since I'm not one either... how do you or I know what's a good temp for a CPU?
[16:32] <ebel> Is there any stock taking software for ubuntu? (pref. some php app) ?
[16:32] <dogmatic69> blendmaster1024: im sure i can keep you lol'ing for a long time
[16:32] <dogmatic69> i have noticed a bug (that is irrtating more than anything) when switching work spaces
[16:32] <baltazar2> Is there a way to download apt-get list and transfer to offline computer and do apt-get update?
[16:33] <Schmorgluck> baltazar2, yes
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> !clone | baltazar2
[16:33] <dogmatic69> there is a popup that appears and does not go away till you hover it
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  and check the aptoncd  tool
[16:33] <eraggo> seekwill: atleast i know that for my processor manufacturer promises about 75 degrees max temperature. sometimes that temperature has been 81 :/
[16:33] <sacarlson> seekwill: cold but over 0c
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  or cheat and copy over the /var/cache/apt/  dir :() but that can also be large
[16:34] <ilovefairuz> !aptoncd | baltazar2
[16:34] <Zombie> Does anyone know how to tell Ubuntu to manually set the refresh rate to 60 Hz?
[16:34] <baltazar2> dr_willis: nice Ill try that first
[16:34] <eraggo> (and without load)
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> baltazar2:  i set up a home lan and let one pc work as the apt-cacher machine.
[16:34] <Schmorgluck> baltazar2, dpkg --get-selections > yourfile
[16:34] <blendmaster1024> ilovefairuz: thank you thank you I've wondered what that was called for weeks
[16:34] <sacarlson> Zombie: I think in System>preference>monitor
[16:34] <seekwill> eraggo: Well, then in that case, I'd find out what that temp really means then.
[16:35] <Schmorgluck> baltazar2, and then sudo dpkg --set-selections < yourfile
[16:35] <blendmaster1024> I want a way to remotely lock an X session. I can script what is needed. the problem is - how do I lock someone out of an X session?
[16:35] <OY1R> i need some teenage theme and also advice on how to make ubuntu teenage safe (block porn/violence webpages and such)
[16:35] <baltazar2> dr_willis: I have no /var/apt dir
[16:36] <Schmorgluck> baltazar2, and forgive me, I didn't quite get your question right
[16:36] <ilovefairuz> baltazar2: /var/CACHE/apt
[16:36] <blendmaster1024> OY1R: check out 'dansguardian'
[16:36] <OY1R> blendmaster1024, thank you
[16:37] <ilovefairuz> OY1R: check the software included by default in the ubuntu christian and muslim remixes
[16:38] <Arepie> anyone knows, how to use "unalias cp rm mv"? because im facing an error..
[16:38] <blendmaster1024> ilovefairuz: someone sitting next to me wants to know if there is a mormon remix
[16:38] <ilovefairuz> Arepie: paste command and error
[16:38] <ilovefairuz> blendmaster1024: there could be, i don't know
[16:39] <dajhorn> Arepie: `cp`, `rm`, and `mv` are not aliased in a default Ubuntu installation.
[16:39] <Arepie> ilovefairuz: command: unalias cp rm mv --> output: -bash: unalias: cp: not found, -bash: unalias: rm: not found, -bash: unalias: mv: not found
[16:40] <ilovefairuz> Arepie: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[16:40] <saml> how do i do screencast?
[16:40] <dajhorn> Arepie: Pastebin the output of `alias` by itself.  This will show you the currently defined aliases in your shell.
[16:40] <bastidrazor> Arepie: just like dajhorn said. they are not aliased to begin with and hence why you're getting 'not found'
[16:40] <Pici> !screencast | saml
[16:41] <saml> kthx
[16:41] <Arepie> dajhorn: i see.. so i need to modified the script -_-. Thanks for the info
[16:41] <Schmorgluck> I'm reluctant to go for a full reinstall that would take hours, but I'm growing desperate : I haven't been able to find any way to make my video card work properly since I upgraded to Karmic, and I've been searching for a long time
[16:42] <ilovefairuz> Arepie: what script are you using? some scripts do this to ensure that they will run the standard utilities with no added options, if so, just ignore the error
[16:43] <ilovefairuz> Schmorgluck: what ubuntu version are you using and pastebin: sudo lshw -C display?
[16:43] <dajhorn> Schmorgluck: If youre Karmic system is busted, then you should try your luck with Lucid.  In-place downgrades are very difficult.
[16:43] <Arepie> ilovefairuz: some script from cisecurity. im hardening my server.
[16:43]  * dajhorn cringes at his 'youre'
[16:44] <ilovefairuz> Arepie: that unalias line should be harmless
[16:44] <tjubaluba> can one break/resume a kernel build (using dpkg-buildpackage) .. maybe by using the "-nc" flag?
[16:45] <Arepie> ilovefairuz: yup, maybe. But there are some logic i need to re-script..
[16:45] <Arepie> ilovefairuz: thanks
[16:46] <ashish> rtt
[16:46] <dberman> can anyone assist on getting an internal smartcard to work in 10.0.4 x64?
[16:47] <blendmaster1024> !ask | dberman
[16:47] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, Karmic, and here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/486824/plain/
[16:48] <tjubaluba> can one break/resume a kernel build (using dpkg-buildpackage) .. maybe by using the "-nc" flag?
[16:48] <nibbier> hi. how would i install a completely encrypted ubuntu nbr?
[16:48] <ilovefairuz> Schmorgluck: and what's your issue with it?
[16:49] <gp5st> i have a system which keeps getting file system problems.  I'm not sure why.  The smart status seems to be OK. Why would the filesystem become inconsistent every few weeks?
[16:49] <blendmaster1024> how would I, as the sysadmin, lock someone out of a running X session?
[16:49] <joey__> where can i post sysdiag info? just did a fresh 10.4 install, loaded tons of stuff & upgrade-manager, gdm kept dieing, then did today's kernel upgrade and now grub can find' some files in /lib...best support place to ask?
[16:49] <dajhorn> gp5st: Is it actually an inconsistency, or is it a regular check?   By default, a Ubuntu computer will run fsck every few weeks and every few mounts.
[16:50] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, I can't make anything involving 3D run anymore
[16:50] <zulax> if i want x.com to show x.com/index.php?id=5, but still want the browser to show x.com, how should the htaccess be
[16:50] <ilovefairuz> gp5st: download the vendor's disk check bootable cd and run it
[16:51] <ilovefairuz> blendmaster1024: kill Xorg
[16:51] <tjubaluba> can one break/resume a kernel build (using dpkg-buildpackage) .. ctrl-c to stop....  and maybe using the "-nc" flag, to resume?
[16:51] <blendmaster1024> ilovefairuz: I suppose ...
[16:51] <gp5st> ilovefairuz: i didn't know those existed. how can i tell what the vendor of a disk is w/o opening the machine
[16:51] <nibbier> blendmaster1024, use who  to find his pts/tty whatever and fuser -k /dev/ttyXX
[16:52] <home> hi, how can I set gnome-keyring to be opened without password prompt when using gdm autologin?
[16:52] <blendmaster1024> I want to lock them out, not kick them out
[16:52] <blendmaster1024> in other words I wanna be able to let them back in to the same session later
[16:52] <gp5st> dajhorn: actual inconsistencies that happen while running and kill procs and force the fs to be r/o
[16:52] <ilovefairuz> gp5st: what's the first few letters of the disk identifier in palimpsest ?
[16:52] <nibbier> blendmaster1024, oh sorry, is there a difference?
[16:52] <sacarlson> blendmaster1024: don't you already have the solution?
[16:52] <dajhorn> gp5st: Run memtest from the Ubuntu boot menu.
[16:52] <nibbier> blendmaster1024, back to their old session, after logging out? that ould not be locked out
[16:53] <blendmaster1024> sacarlson: no
[16:53] <blendmaster1024> yours is a good idea, but it doesn't quite work right
[16:53] <dajhorn> gp5st: and watch the /var/log/messages files for disk IO and CPU errors like segfaults and dumps.
[16:53] <sacarlson> blendmaster1024: what part is missing?  the let back in part?
[16:53] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, and sorry, I was mistaken, I'm under Lucid
[16:53] <blendmaster1024> sacarlson: no, the blank screen part, the password dialog will show
[16:54] <gp5st_> hi
[16:54] <gp5st_> sorry
[16:55] <gp5st_> my laptop shutoff (getting a new one soon)
[16:55] <abem> hello
[16:55] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: It is not possible to get a 1-to-1 replacement for console behavior in Linux vice your existing Windows environment.  The unix-style way to kick a user is to `kill` their login process.
[16:55] <Crankygeek01> Is there a way to setup a VNC session to start automatically when my machine starts up, so I don't have to be logged in to my desktop to be able to remote in to my box?
[16:55] <sacarlson> blendmaster1024: password dialog will show?  once locked out don't think I can get back in.   I think I can try it on myself
[16:55] <gp5st_> how would i check the manufacture of the disk without opening the case?
[16:56] <abem> anyone knows what I need to install in order to run sahara flatbed scanner model:1200cu plus?
[16:56] <nibbier> blendmaster1024, dajhorn: would it be possible to change their password and start a screensaver on their X
[16:56] <ilovefairuz> Schmorgluck: did you try the binary drivers? not sure if it supports your card,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[16:57] <dajhorn> abem: Try the Applications -> Graphics -> Simple Scan that is installed by default.
[16:57] <pfifo> gp5st, get one of those camersa on the end of a snake ans slip it in thought a hole on the back of the PC
[16:57] <sacarlson> nibbier: yes that the method that I think would work
[16:57] <blendmaster1024> nibbier: that's the same thing sacarlson suggested
[16:57] <blendmaster1024> that's what I was saying, the password entry dialog will still show
[16:57] <SikEnCide> gp5st_: hdparm -I /dev/"disc"
[16:58] <gp5st_> thanks SikEnCide
[16:58] <SikEnCide> gp5st_: don;t forget to sudo
[16:58] <sacarlson> blendmaster1024: who cares what shows. they are locked out isn't that what you want?
[16:58] <SikEnCide> gp5st_:   so it would be   sudo hdparm -I /dev/"disc"
[16:58] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, the problem is I get a segmentation fault any time I try to use a mesa tool
[16:59] <hoare> guys how can I click ok in this console window: http://i55.tinypic.com/wralx2.jpg
[16:59] <nibbier> blendmaster1024, sorry, joined after he said that... but whats wrong with  hat, he cant get it.
[16:59] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, so it's hard to follow the int
[16:59] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, so it's hard to follow the instructions on the page
[16:59] <hoare> oh I found.
[16:59] <bastidrazor> hoare: use tab and the space bar
[16:59] <blendmaster1024> this is for a classroom kiosk system and the reason I'm locking them out is to remove the distraction of the computer; completely disable it until their work is done.
[17:00] <sacarlson> nibbler: no you didn't join later I sent it private
[17:00] <hoare> bastidrazor: thanks. it was difficult to find
[17:00] <dajhorn> ilovefairuz, Schmorgluck:  fglrx release notes say that the IGP 320 become unsupported near the 8 release.   A solution could be to use the newer/newish 'radeon' driver.
[17:00] <nibbier> sacarlson, ah okay ;-)
[17:01] <abys> hello people , can somebody tell me what to choose , denyhost or fail2ban ..
[17:01] <nibbier> blendmaster1024, then you need to write a application that blacks the screen, like screensaver, without the password-input stuff. and start/kill it yourself
[17:01] <nibbier> abys, chose life
[17:01] <ilovefairuz> Schmorgluck: the Free/open source 'radeon' driver (that your card currently uses) has only a partial/limited support for 3d
[17:01] <abys> i already did that thx !
[17:01] <home> hi, how can I set gnome-keyring to be opened without password prompt when using gdm autologin?
[17:02] <abys> now a usefull answer
[17:02] <blendmaster1024> nibbier: true ...
[17:02] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, so it's back to point A, then, the only thing I can do is downgrade
[17:02] <blendmaster1024> hmmm ... that is a good idea ...
[17:02] <taffflash> what the command is for finding out RAM please?
[17:02] <sacarlson> blendmaster1024: I guess what is missing is a login screen that has no login as an option
[17:02] <taffflash> hw much i got?
[17:02] <dajhorn> taffflash: `free`
[17:03] <abem> dajhorn: simple scanner give me this error "unable to connect to scanner"
[17:03] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: LTSP was build specifically for classroom environments.  Go there.  You are certainly duplicating work that is already done and available.
[17:04] <blendmaster1024> dajhorn: this is not a thin client situation >>>
[17:04] <blendmaster1024> s/>>>/>.>/
[17:04] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: X11 doesn't work that way.  It doesn't matter.  The X head can be local or remote, and you'll get the same result.
[17:05] <dajhorn> blendmaster1024: Linux is not Windows.
[17:05] <blendmaster1024> O.O
[17:05]  * blendmaster1024 checks it out
[17:05] <Crankygeek01> Is there a way to setup a VNC session to start automatically when my machine starts up, so I don't have to be logged in to my desktop to be able to remote in to my box?
[17:06] <nooo> Could someone help me figure out whats going on here? (All 3 are identical fresh Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 x64 installations); NP-Dev (the one with the message) was working yesterday after I installed it.
[17:06] <nooo> http://i56.tinypic.com/219vx8y.png
[17:06] <sacarlson> Crankygeekyes just have it autologin I guess
[17:07] <sacarlson> Crankygeek01:  and just have vnc start at login
[17:08] <dberman> Is there a way to get a laptop smartcard reader to work in ubuntu 10.0.4 x64
[17:08] <taffflash> http://pastebin.com/RgZErZA9 how much ram HAve i got please?
[17:08] <Pici> taffflash: free -m   will give it to you in mb
[17:08] <taffflash> Pici: thank you
[17:09] <pfifo> taffflash, according to the pastebin... you dont have any ram! quick save your work before your computer shuts down
[17:09] <taffflash> ?
[17:09] <metalfan_> taffflash, 1gb
[17:09] <sacarlson> dberman: does this work? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/smartcard
[17:10] <dajhorn> abem: Is the scanner USB?
[17:10] <taffflash> metalfan_: thank you
[17:10] <dberman> sacarlson: I will give it a try and let you know, thx
[17:10] <abem> dajhorn: yes, without a power cable
[17:11] <gp5st_> exit
[17:11] <gp5st_> exit
[17:11] <gp5st_> XC
[17:11] <dajhorn> abem:   Click Document -> Preferences and look at the "Scan Source" pulldown.  Does the name of your scanner appear?
[17:12] <metalfan_> taffflash, but you could add a little swap
[17:13] <whosjose> Question: How can i switch back to windows? Is there anyway I can do so?
[17:13] <sacarlson> whosjose: you can run virtualbox and run windows at the same time
[17:13] <ilovefairuz> taffflash: add a swap partition
[17:14] <whosjose> sacarlson: I don't want to use virtualbox, I need windows to be the default os
[17:14] <mhall119> anyone know when the new Twitter+OAuth supporting gwibber is going to make it into lucid-updates?
[17:14] <ilovefairuz> whosjose: how did you install ubuntu?
[17:14] <sacarlson> whosjose: or you can can dualboot or just reformat with just windows up to you
[17:14] <dajhorn> whosjose: Boot the computer with the Microsoft Windows installation CD-ROM.  The partitioner will complain about an unknown or unrecognized operating system.  Ignore the warning and let the installer continue.
[17:14] <ilovefairuz> mhall119: updates only introduce bug fixes, not new features
[17:15] <sacarlson> whosjose: with grub or grub2 you can dualboot with windows as default
[17:15] <whosjose> sacarlson: Every time I put the windows cd, an error comes up.
[17:15] <randomOfAmber> whosjose: you only want windows? or you want it to start windows automatically (you already have windows installed) and you want to be able to pick ubuntu?
[17:15] <whosjose> randomOfAmber: I only want windows.
[17:15] <mhall119> ilovefairuz: well since twitter no longer supports basic auth, that means gwibber's twitter support is broken, I'd consider than a bug fix
[17:15] <sacarlson> whosjose:  must be a windows cd problem then not ubuntu
[17:15] <abem> dajhorn: it comes under: Mustek Bearpaw 1200CU plus"
[17:15] <whosjose> I've tried to use the windows CD but I get an error.
[17:15] <ilovefairuz> whosjose: then reinstall windows, for help with that ask in ##windows
[17:15] <randomOfAmber> whosjose: pop in the windows cd and install it.  go to #windows for questions
[17:15] <whosjose> sacarlson: It's not the windows cd for sure.
[17:16] <dajhorn> whosjose: What is the part number of the Microsoft Windows installation media?
[17:16] <whosjose> randomOfAmber:  I've tried everyone there is stupid.
[17:16] <ilovefairuz> dajhorn: we only provide ubuntu support here
[17:16] <whosjose> dajhorn: Unsure.
[17:16] <randomOfAmber> it should remove ubuntu if you go to 'advanced' and 'delete partition' on all the ubuntu stuff, then 'new partition' on 'free space' in the windows installer
[17:16] <mzuverink> I melted accidentally my melted the keys on my touchpad, it there a way to prevent it from even being activated on start up for ALL USERS?
[17:16] <blendmaster1024> how do I disable the ctrl+alt+F* keys and friends in Xorg?
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> whosjose:   if you think the linux install is some how breaking the cd.. you could delete all the linux parittions, and even use dd to zero the hard drive.. making it totally unallocatged/unformated
[17:16] <dajhorn> ilovefairuz: I know.  But I'm willing to help a new Ubuntu user back out.
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> whosjose:  but i would be VERY suprised if linuix on the HD is affecting the cd.
[17:16] <randomOfAmber> back up your data first :)
[17:17] <Oer> !resetpanels > Oer
[17:17] <erdnase> Goooood day. I'm using xubuntu and I installed (more like added) the ubuntu studio desktop thingy. Will that affect my laptop's performance in a bad way?
[17:17] <dajhorn> ilovefairuz: It makes them more likely to return to Ubuntu.
[17:17] <whosjose> Dr_Willis: I believe if I can reformat the hard drive to at least a fat32 or ntfs it will work.
[17:17] <ilovefairuz> dajhorn: that's debatable ..
[17:18] <sacarlson> whosjose: so what is stoping you?  with a windows cd you ca do just that
[17:18] <dajhorn> whosjose: The part number is stamped on the front of the CD-ROM like ABC-12345.  It sounds like you have a burned copy, which is a no-go.
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> whosjose:  thats easially done... I would suggest you grab a live linux cd or 2 BEFOR you try all this. in case you need an OS to get to the internet with
[17:18] <area51pilot> Whosjose:  what r u trying to accomplish?
[17:18] <dajhorn> whosjose: Keep your Ubuntu installation disc handy.
[17:18] <whosjose> Dr_Willis: I was going to give that a try.
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> whosjose:  the 'gparted live cd' is a Must have in any PC owners toolbox
[17:19] <whosjose> Dr_Willis: I'll be back, thanks for all your help. I'm going to try the live cd
[17:19] <xenon_> hi, is there anyone with knowledge about openoffice base? I created a database I have a from which I use as a view to insert data. Now I need to export to pdf ALL the pages of all the records in the same document.
[17:19] <randomOfAmber> erdnase: it'll add more stuff, so less hdd space, and if you run more programs, it might be slower (possibly yes)
[17:19] <xenon_> when I click export to pdf it just exports ONE record. I need it to export all the records :(
[17:20] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: wow good salesman I thought they wanted windows?
[17:20] <Schmorgluck> I have another question: a few months ago, I bought some two 512 Mo memory modules  to extend my laptop's memory to 1Go, but my computer doesn't seem to be aware that said memory modules are 512 Mo instead of the former 256
[17:20] <dajhorn> abem:  If the scanner appears in the list, then you have a driver for it.  Try an alternate program like Xsane, or Gimp.
[17:20] <erdnase> randomOfAmber, but other than that, i won't notice any... loss of speed, yes?
[17:20] <Schmorgluck> is there anything I should do to correct that?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:   I imagine  he mnay be back and stuck with No OS at all... having them get a Live cd NOW that they can use.. may save trouble later. :)
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> Schmorgluck:  check the laptop makers bios/forums/homepage there may be updates.. or it may be a limit of the laptops design
[17:22] <Schmorgluck> Dr_Willis, theoretically, the limit is 1Go, but you're right, I should check out there
[17:22] <dajhorn> Schmorgluck: You said that your computer had a Mobility U1 in it, which means that it was manufactured near 2005 or earlier.  It is entirely likely that the chipset has a small limit like that.
[17:22] <kpettit> does ubuntu have a default desktop search like tracker?  Was wondering what the best one is for a large set of files (500-750k files)
[17:23] <Schmorgluck> dajhorn, according to the constructor's website, the limit is 1 Go
[17:23] <kocio> ?
[17:23] <SuperMiguel> is there an easier way to decypher what an elf file does than using objdump??
[17:23] <dajhorn> Schmorgluck: You may need a BIOS update to use all of the gigabyte, or you may have purchased double-sided SO-DIMMs, which may not always work.
[17:24] <padhu> !  apt-get install lamp-server^ ; in this command why we need '^'? any other commands using this?
[17:24] <LtHummus> When doing an apt-get upgrade from the command line, is there a way to only install security updates?
[17:24] <rocket16> Is there a way to open a particular workspace automatically, after Ubuntu starts?
[17:24] <padhu> '^' what is it say?
[17:24] <Schmorgluck> dajhorn, then I'm screwed, because I've found no BIOS update for my machine
[17:25] <dajhorn> Schmorgluck: Yeah, probably.
[17:25] <endhiran> which ubuntu has best performance .which cd image i want to take from website of ubuntu?ஐஆீூyYங
[17:25] <Schmorgluck> dajhorn, they really are assholes
[17:26] <HB2> hi, somebody know a good system equalizer audio ??
[17:26] <marius> Hello, I have installed xfce but I do not like it, how do I remove it?
[17:26] <Guest89597> What command do I have to type to remove xfce?
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest89597:  fire up the package manager and search for and remove all packages that have xfce in their names perhaps..
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest89597:  its often easier to install.. then to remove these large XXXXXX-desktop meta packages
[17:27] <rocket16> Is there a way to switch to a particular workspace automatically, after Ubuntu starts?
[17:27] <padhu> Dinesh: what is your requirement? why CD image?
[17:27] <LtHummus> marius: you can change your shell back to Gnome, on the login screen under session, pick Gnome instead of Xcfe
[17:28] <IdleOne> !puregnome | Guest89597
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> what no !lubuntu  in puregnome? :)
[17:28] <Guest89597> Ok, I'll try right now thanks
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> I would like to see4 some more 'work and polish' done in the area of having more then one XYZ-desktop installed on a system at a time.. It can get.. awkward and quirky at times if you have kubuntu and ubuntu and xubuntu  all on a box at the same time.
[17:29] <Guest89597> Seems like the terminal is deleting files, thanks
[17:30] <Guest89597> I installed it because I have a slow machine, but I don't know, seems strange, gnome works better than xfce
[17:30] <philinux> Ok, portrait photo's in nautilus get turned the right way up, is there a way to not do this
[17:30] <Guest89597> And I have another problem. Why does my internet connection keep getting disconected?
[17:30] <isaac_> hello fellow lux
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> Guest89597:  if you want lighter.. check out lubuntu
[17:31] <jpds> Dr_Willis: Man, I read: "if you want a lighter"
[17:31] <Guest89597> Dr_Willis,  thanks for the suggestion
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> Guest89597:  or just run a window manager, not a full desktop
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> jpds:  smoking is bad for you :)
[17:31] <SuperMiguel> any of you guys recognize what type/kind of file is this: http://pastebin.com/adKeGZBD
[17:32] <randomOfAmber> SuperMiguel: no extension/comprehensible name/folder name that makes sense?
[17:32] <jpds> SuperMiguel: Tried running "file" against it? $ file <filename> ?
[17:32] <nibbier> hi. how would i install a completely encrypted ubuntu nbr?
[17:32] <Guest89597> I have a pppoe (dsl) connection and keeps getting disconectd at random times
[17:33] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: try look at it with ghex2 and we might have some hope
[17:33] <Guest89597> why is that? ubuntu has problems with dsl connections?
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  does 'file filenametolookat' give a clue>
[17:34] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, nu :( well
[17:34] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, ED 80 F1 80
[17:34] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, nothing familiar :(
[17:35] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: wow 4 hex digits
[17:36] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, well its alot longer that, i usually look at the beggining
[17:36] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: nope can't help you
[17:37] <a> 123
[17:37] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, ?
[17:37] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: it's binary it can be anything. database image encryped
[17:39] <endhiran> which ubuntu has best performance .which cd image i want to take from website.64-bit or i386 .?
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> endhiran:  do you have a 64bit CPU?
[17:39] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: oh now I remember it's z80 assembly language
[17:39] <Guest15837> 64 bit if you have a 64 bit cpu
[17:39] <endhiran> Dr_Willis:yes my is amd athlon
[17:39] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, well i have two files, the one you saw and another one, and im supposed to get a picture out of it. The other file is: http://pastebin.com/AhDZxSah
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> endhiran:  then go 64bit
[17:40] <Guest15837> 64 bit is much faster
[17:40] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, im supposed to get happyfish.jpg from it
[17:40] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: well if it's an image to you know the size and debth?
[17:40] <endhiran>  Dr_Willis:is there any problem for installing i386 image?
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> endhiran:  either would work on a 64bit CPU
[17:41] <isaac_> HOW MUCH RAM COULD 64 BITS IN LINUX ALLOW?
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> isaac_:  lots... :)
[17:41] <lukeee> more than you have lol
[17:41] <isaac_> WINDOWS ALLOW 4 G
[17:41] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, no :(
[17:41] <Jordan_U> !caps | isaac_
[17:41] <isaac_> im sorrow
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> isaac_:  4gb is a 32bit limit.. not a 64bit limit.
[17:41] <lukeee> isnt 32bit limited to 3gb?
[17:41] <endhiran>  Dr_Willis: ok i will try
[17:41] <ilovefairuz> !pae
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> lukeee:  technically its 4gb.. but theres other issues to watch out for
[17:42] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, maybe width 103 heigh 138. but not sure
[17:42] <Schmorgluck> muhaha, it seems that the pages where I could try and get the information I need no longer exist
[17:42] <lukeee> makes sense. better to just buy a 64 bit capable computer
[17:43] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: well back in 1982 I could probly do this
[17:43] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, lol
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Only 32bit computers ive noticed lately are the netbooks... and i think even those are starting to get some 64bit cpus in them
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> I wonder how many bits these arm based machines/gizmos  ive seen are using..
[17:44] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: why didn't they at least give it to you in Base64 encodeing
[17:44] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, suposelly the first file has the key to get the pic from the second file
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> SuperMiguel:  are we doing your homework for you? :)
[17:44] <lukeee> im new to this. when you reply to a specific person, are you just typing out the name? or is there a shortcut
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> !tab : lukeee
[17:44] <SuperMiguel> Dr_Willis, harder than that :)
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> !tab | lukeee
[17:45] <ilovefairuz> lukeee: type first few letters and press tab
[17:45] <lukeee> ilovefairuz, nice!
[17:45] <lukeee> thank you
[17:45] <sacarlson> SuperMiguel: sound like a job for the FBI.  they have tools for this.
[17:46] <Schmorgluck> I've found the command line to have informations about my motherboard, but I have a hard time interpreting them
[17:46] <lukeee> how long has everyone here been using linux for?
[17:46] <HB2> hi, somebody know a good system equalizer audio ??
[17:46] <Schmorgluck> you have to know the model of your motherboard to be able to find a BIOS update, right?
[17:47] <SuperMiguel> sacarlson, lol
[17:47] <philinux> Ok, portrait photo's in nautilus get turned the right way up, is there a way to not do this
[17:47] <Jordan_U> !ot | lukeee
[17:47] <ilovefairuz> Schmorgluck: check the BIOS  vendor and version, then check the vendor's website
[17:48] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, ok, thanks
[17:48] <Schmorgluck> ilovefairuz, I hope the vendor still exists ;)
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> probably yes, there is only a popular handful of them
[17:49] <Azjo> hi, i got an issue with not enough space. i have installed 10.04.1 on an usb using pendrivelinux so its persistent, on 2gb. how do i determine what programs takes up most space?
[17:51] <ilovefairuz> Azjo: 'du' but most programs won't be really an issue, 2 gb is barely sufficient.
[17:51] <alexeenkoff> а как там зайти на ubuntu-ru?
[17:51] <pfifo> Azjo, X11 with gnome and its extras takes up the most space
[17:51] <bollullera> hola!
[17:51] <isaac_> is anybody watching the mac conference
[17:52] <Pici> !ot | isaac_
[17:52] <Azjo> what is x11?
[17:52]  * pfifo facepalms
[17:53] <Pici> Azjo: Its the basis of what provides a graphical desktop.
[17:53] <gary_inNYC> will uninstalling F-Spot mess up Ubuntu?
[17:53] <Azjo> hmmm
[17:53] <sebsebseb> gary_inNYC: no
[17:53] <gary_inNYC> sebsebseb: sweet thanks
[17:53] <Azjo> i managed to install 5 apps, and then i uninstalled 2 openoffices.. which should free up some space?
[17:54] <sebsebseb> gary_inNYC: your welcome
[17:54] <cardamon> Hmm.
[17:54] <cardamon> Well, that's unfortunate.
[17:54] <Azjo> openoffice takes up 300mb on linux? or is that a windows thing?
[17:56] <pfifo> Azjo: use at your own risk! 'rm -rf /usr/man' 'strip /usr/bin/* /usr/lib/*' 'apt-get clean' 'rm -rf /usr/local' 'ln -sf /dev/null /var/log'
[17:56] <Azjo> im only testing :P
[17:56] <cardamon_> >_>
[17:57] <Azjo> so rm manuals.. whats in usr/bin?
[17:57] <pfifo> binary programs
[17:57] <Azjo> ...so it removes all?
[17:58] <cardamon_> Well that's unfortunate.  I can't run my virtualized copy of Ubuntu on this machine.  So much for that plan.
[17:58] <pfifo> strip removes debugging symbols and will nearly cut your programs size in half, rm removes files
[17:58] <Azjo> ln -sf /dev/null /var/log does what?
[17:58] <joey__> anyone update today? (new install from last night + upgrade this morning). during boot, tossed into initramfs/buzybox shell. claiming libudev.so.0 not found; hit ^D, boot continues. tried rootdelay=5. didn't do this yesterday after 10.4 install ;(
[17:59] <pfifo> Azjo, in makes ALL system generate log files get deleted automatically without ever taking up a single byte of data on your disk
[17:59] <Magnetro> Good morning users.
[18:00] <shuman> Good evening
[18:00] <area51pilot> GM Magnetro
[18:00] <Magnetro> Does anyone know how to get a M.A.M.E. program that actually WORKS? Because kamefu/kxmame in repo does not at all.
[18:01] <Magnetro> area51pilot: doing okay? lol ^.^
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  you mean a mame 'frontend' to mame/xmame ? You could just use the commanbdline
[18:01] <area51pilot> magnetro: Yes, thx and u?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> !info gxmame
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. there was some gnome mame front end i used not too long ago
[18:02] <Magnetro> area51: Dito, and even better because Dr. Willis toer answ have the
[18:02] <Magnetro> seems too*
[18:02] <yu> hello, I just installed sshfs, and it is terribly slow. The sftp in nautilus is much faster. Have any idea why it is the case?
[18:03] <jrib> Dr_Willis: gmameui?
[18:03] <Belias> now i can be happy.
[18:03] <cardamon_> Ooh, I could try qemu.
[18:03] <pfifo> yu sshfs will always be slow, always has been. Its a kludge really, use nfs if you need major file transfers
[18:03] <Magnetro> Yeah because, sadly, it wasn't to long ago I realized all the games that emulator could nhave.
[18:04] <Azjo> i also have a problem with empathy being weird when i try to have more than one chat window open.. it keeps.. popping up and going away up in the corner
[18:04] <yu> pfifo: thank you, so I'd better tunnel nfs with ssh?
[18:04] <Azjo> can that be because of no space left?
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> mama supports a huge # of games.
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> Mame :) - Been using it for years
[18:05] <yu> coz I do want access control on my nfs exports
[18:05] <cardamon_> Hey guys, which one's the right package for qemu?  I see a "dummy package to transition users to kvm-qemu" ...is AQEMU the right one? or is it qemu-kvm?
[18:05] <sven_oostenbrink> Dr_Willis: thanks for clearing that up...
[18:05] <pfifo> yu, you dont have to tunnel anything, nfs is all you need
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> WIfe likes good old mame Pacman
[18:05] <pfifo> pacman is for casuals
[18:07] <Magnetro> I want games like street fighter vs x-men and marvel vs capcom w/ a mame system..
[18:07] <Magnetro> Could anyone help?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  those work in Mame,
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  when in doubt read the mame docs. learn how to use it from the command line, dont rely on a front end
[18:08] <samir> hi
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> mame is Very picky about where the files are located at.
[18:09] <Magnetro> lol, i'm trying to break out of that Dr. Willis, and I know.
[18:09] <Magnetro> So since i'm guessing there aren't any frontend m.a.m.e reconmmended, what about the commandline?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> the gnome mame front end worked well i recall.  Theres proberly dozens of mame front ends out there. many not in the repos
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  what about the command line...   use it..
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> mame romname (if its installed in the right place)
[18:10] <Magnetro> Don't know how, i'm only weeks old on Unbuntu
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> or was it xmame (i forget now)
[18:10] <Magnetro> kxmame
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  time to hit the mame homepage and man pages.  odds are you are missconfiguring kxmame i am guessing
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> everything MUST be in its proper places for mame to find the files it needs.
[18:11] <Magnetro> k' let me pull that up then.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  you DO have the proper game roms?
[18:11] <Magnetro> I hope so.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Hope? well good luck.
[18:11] <Magnetro> LOL
[18:12] <Magnetro> I mean it's under the list
[18:12] <cardamon_> anyone run qemu?  which packages do I need?  I'm grabbing qemu launcher, but should I grab qemu too?  it's description says "Dummy transitional package to kvm-qemu"  Not familiar with your package system so I'm only guessing that that means it'll redirect to right package.
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  you did tell it to 'audit' the games/roms ?
[18:12] <Magnetro> Honestly, I haven't touched the configs.
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:   time to check the kxmame docs and config settings then.
[18:13] <Magnetro> It's not as simple as the Zsnes which I have working w/e sound tho oddly
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  corrext its NOT as simple as zsnes
[18:13] <Magnetro> Could not Launch Help Center
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Magnetro:  the roms MUST be in the proper dirs. or configured  on the front end to look in the right places.
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Bed time for me. Night all.,
[18:14] <Magnetro> Could not launch the KDE Help Center
[18:14] <Magnetro> ?? I pressed help handbook that that's what happened
[18:15] <jrib> Magnetro: are you using kde?
[18:15] <Magnetro> kxmame
[18:15] <jrib> Magnetro: not my question
[18:15] <Magnetro> it's too complicated for the likes of me.
[18:15] <Magnetro> oh
[18:15] <Magnetro> what's kde?
[18:16] <Magnetro> because I doubt that I am
[18:16] <jrib> Magnetro: did you install regular ubuntu or kubuntu?
[18:16] <Magnetro> regular unbuntu
[18:16] <jrib> Magnetro: that's why help didn't work.  Why don't you just use command line like dr_willis suggested?
[18:17] <Schmorgluck> can someone recommend me a tool for handling podcasts? GUI, CLI, I don't care (but I'm rather fond of the latter)
[18:20] <Magnetro> jrib
[18:20] <kubmob> русские есть?
[18:20] <jrib> !ru | kubmob
[18:21] <looonger> tell me, has this famous beta font already been released for all to download and test, as promised?
[18:21] <Magnetro> jrib I don't know how to use the commandline for mame
[18:22] <jrib> Magnetro: that makes two of us :)  Read documentation, also dr_willis gave hints before
[18:23] <Pici> looonger: Not yet.  See https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-typeface-interest
[18:23] <lap_dragon> my computer is slow :( How do I fix this?
[18:24] <zachary> N00B ALERT: i need help running a simple .cpp file via terminal for a C++ class i'm working in
[18:24] <looonger> Pici, i see, this font is cool, btw
[18:25] <jrib> zachary: do you know how basic terminal commands?
[18:25] <Travis_42> Is there any way to make Empathy's new message notification more noticeable? I never notice the tiny dot on the envelope.
[18:25] <jrib> -how
[18:25] <zachary> jrib, a bit
[18:25] <zachary> jrib, i tried g++ file file.cpp
[18:25] <zachary> jrib, but no luck
[18:25] <jrib> zachary: install build-essential, cd to the directory with the .cpp file, g++ -o NAME_OF_OUTPUT file.cpp, ./NAME_OF_OUTPUT
[18:26] <StevenX> Hello. I think there is something wrong with my hard drive. What utility can I use to check / repair it? (I'm running Ubuntu off a CD-ROM).
[18:26] <ectospasm> zachary: try "g++ -o file file.cpp"
[18:26] <StevenX> The Disk Utility that comes with Ubuntu is not finding any errors.
[18:26] <ectospasm> StevenX: it may not be a problem with the disk, but the filesystem could have errors.  Try fsck
[18:27] <zachary> ectospasm, i tried it but nothing ran
[18:27] <zachary> just took me to the next line prompt
[18:27] <ectospasm> zachary: it won't have any output if it succeeds.
[18:27] <sothe> Travis_42, I have the same problem, bearly notise when i get a msg
[18:28] <zachary> ectospasm, so if i have a program that does cout >>"hello"; where will it show?
[18:28] <StevenX> ectospasm, I will try that.
[18:28] <StevenX> How do I remove a directory using the terminal?
[18:28] <jrib> zachary: g++ compiles, it doesn't run your program
[18:28] <zachary> jrib, ah
[18:28] <ectospasm> zachary: it will show in the linux shell (standard output), but you have to run the command.  Like "./file"
[18:28] <Travis_42> sothe: so, nothing that can be done? is there anything better?
[18:28] <jrib> zachary: after you run g++, you'll see a new file (a.out if you didn't specify a name with -o), so you run that
[18:29] <zachary> jrib, so what is command to run the .out file?
[18:29] <sothe> Travis_42,  I don't know any way:/
[18:29] <ectospasm> zachary: ./a.out
[18:29] <pfifo> i dual boot ubuntu/XP and my clock is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAY completely wrong! I need help with this issue desperately! If you hear my plea and find sympathy/empathy in your caring heart than please paypal me a considerable donation so that I can move to a Greenwich England.
[18:29] <StevenX> ectospasm, can fsck only check linux filesystems?
[18:29] <zachary> ectospasm, i dont even see a .out file in the directory
[18:30] <jrib> zachary: because you specified a name using -o...
[18:30] <ectospasm> zachary: not a .out, a.out
[18:30] <ectospasm> if you run it with the -o option like I said, in your example it would be an executable file named "file"
[18:30] <zachary> ectospasm, when i run ./a.out nothing happens
[18:31] <blendmaster1024> my dpkg is broken - http://pastebin.com/C6i12p0B
[18:31] <ectospasm> zachary: your code is wrong.  Try cout << "Hello, World!\n";
[18:31] <blendmaster1024> anyone have any clue why that file is missing?
[18:31] <zachary> ectospasm, so when it complies it wont give me any errors?
[18:32] <ectospasm> StevenX: fsck only runs on Linux filesystems, unless there's a fsck.vfat or fsck.ntfs or something
[18:32] <Belias> my university wifi uses smart filter, and it prevents torrent, how can i bypass it?
[18:32] <ectospasm> zachary: it gives you errors the way you have it now?
[18:33] <zachary> ectospasm, does dev++ have the compiler already in it so i just have to hit build/run and it does it for me?
[18:33] <ectospasm> Belias: you would probably be violating your university's Acceptable Use Policy (AUP).  I won't help you do that.
[18:33] <ectospasm> zachary: I don't know what dev++ is
[18:33] <zachary> ectospasm, IDE
[18:34] <blendmaster1024> errr ... sorry to break the fun, but c++ is offtopic for #ubuntu, try #c++
[18:34] <ectospasm> zachary: there are a BAZILLION IDEs, most have a compile/link/run step.  Consult your class notes or dev++ documentation
[18:34] <zachary> ectospasm, ty
[18:35] <Belias> ectospasm: would they detect me?
[18:35] <ectospasm> Belias: if they knew what they were doing, yes
[18:35] <jin> morning all, does anyone knows how to change the loading animation in ubuntu?
[18:35] <Belias> ectospasm: ok, forget about it
[18:35] <Besogon> hi. I have 2 ethernet interfaces. eth0 and eth1. eth1 is configured by dhcp and eth0 should be configured as static interface. What gateway should I write in /etc/network/interfaces file?
[18:35] <ectospasm> Belias: at best they'll blacklist your WLAN NIC MAC, at worst they'd hunt you down and have you expelled
[18:35] <Belias> ectospasm: but how would they know? i use a netbook
[18:36] <blendmaster1024> Belias: why are you doing it?
[18:36] <Besogon> for eth0
[18:36] <ectospasm> Belias: ever heard of a MAC address?
[18:36] <jrib> jin: the usplash them you mean?
[18:36] <blendmaster1024> !illegal
[18:36] <Belias> blendmaster1024: i want to download mancandy DVD [ which is allowed to be shared ]
[18:36] <blendmaster1024> .....
[18:36] <Belias> ectospasm: yes
[18:36] <blendmaster1024> that has an http mirror
[18:36] <Scumkill> hi everyone, could you tell me why wifi signal on ubuntu is so weak?
[18:37] <Belias> ectospasm: i know that it can be changed like the IP or what?
[18:37] <Besogon> Scumkill, bad driver?
[18:37] <blendmaster1024> Scumkill: <silly>you're probably too far from the ubuntu transmitter</silly>
[18:37] <Belias> blendmaster1024: where?
[18:37] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:37] <blendmaster1024> Belias: .... I don't know ...
[18:37] <ectospasm> Belias: you get your IP address from the university DHCP server, right?  You submit your MAC address, it gets assigned an IP.  If you violate the AUP, they can make sure you don't get an IP
[18:37] <Besogon> hi. I have 2 ethernet interfaces. eth0 and eth1. eth1 is configured by dhcp and eth0 should be configured as static interface. What gateway should I write in /etc/network/interfaces file for eth0?
[18:37] <Scumkill> I'm about 2 meters from the router
[18:38] <Belias> ectospasm: ok i change the MAC then i can have an ip back
[18:38] <jin> anyone knows how to change the loading animation in ubuntu? I installed ubutustudio and it got changed I want the old onw
[18:38] <jin> one*
[18:38] <acalbaza> are there any alternative task switchers (alt-tab) out there?  metacity's alt-tab is way too slow and I enjoy gnome-do + docky too much to dump metacity at this time.
[18:38] <jrib> jin: the usplash them you mean?
[18:38] <IdleOne> Belias: it is illegal. This channel can not provide support. Please stop asking.
[18:38] <ectospasm> Belias: yeah, you could do that, but they probably have content filters to disallow bittorrent anyway.
[18:39] <jin> jrib: yeah
[18:39] <Belias> IdleOne: ok
[18:39] <IdleOne> Thank you.
[18:39] <jrib> jin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplash
[18:41] <Scumkill> is there any good alternative for Foobar2000 for linux? simple and fully configurable and with eq?
[18:41] <jin> jrib: thanks dude didn't know that was the name of that thing!
[18:44] <Gingers> What? I'm not banned from #ubuntu? Holy shit.
[18:44] <Coronade> :D
[18:44] <Coronade> me neither
[18:44] <jrib> !rules > Gingers
[18:44] <Gingers> What stupid fucking nigger unbanned me?
[18:44] <Coronade> <3 Micro$oft.
[18:44] <jrib> ugh
[18:44] <jin> i got the startUpManager installed and I see no option to change the artwork just the grub parameters
[18:44] <Scumkill>  is there any good alternative for Foobar2000 for linux? simple and fully configurable and with eq? (sorry for repating myself)
[18:44] <ectospasm> Scumkill: if no one knows, you won't get an answer
[18:45] <aeon-ltd> Scumkill: deadbeef
[18:45] <jrib> Scumkill: see if mpd does what you want (I don't use eq, but otherwise it's awesome)
[18:45] <aeon-ltd> Scumkill: http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/
[18:45] <jono> folks, I am doing my normal Ubuntu Community Manager Q+A session in 15mins at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon if you are interested
[18:46] <Magnetro> Does anyone know how to get a Fronted Mame..?
[18:46] <Scumkill> thanks aeon I heard about that player but i couldn't recall the name :D
[18:46] <pfifo> Q+A session?
[18:46] <ectospasm> pfifo: question and answer
[18:47] <pfifo> do they do that often?
[18:47] <jono> pfifo, yeah I answer questions a out Ubuntu
[18:47] <jono> pfifo, I do it every week
[18:47] <jono> I am the Ubuntu Community Manager
[18:47] <dausmus> Need some advice on making sl-modem work. Experienced with Linux, totally new to ubuntu and its variants.  I would like to make sure I get it working in a way that the update manager is aware of it so I don't have to hand-patch it in the future (if possible). I have installed sl-modem-daemon but no joy yet, needs something else before starting successfully. gnome ppp still sees no modem device. Ideas anyone?
[18:48] <thomass> can anyone help me browse my windows network?
[18:48] <thomass> i get an error when i click on windows network
[18:48] <Roasted_> Any idea how in Ubuntu I can put a CD in my laptop and "suck up" the image as an ISO?
[18:48] <tman> hey im running ubuntu 4.10 in a vm right now as im typing its sorta like a dead fish in water cuz the repos aren't avalible anymore:(:(
[18:49] <pfifo> jono, are you answering questions about ubuntu or about the ubuntu community?
[18:49] <aeon-ltd> Roasted_: when it appears on the desktop right click you'll see a option
[18:49] <jono> pfifo, about the community
[18:49] <jono> and things going on
[18:49] <jono> not technical questions
[18:49] <jrib> tman: well 4.10 is really really old and no longer supported
[18:49] <Roasted_> aeon-ltd, uh, I see things like, compress, copy, etc... thats it though.
[18:49] <pfifo> ohh poo, you got my hopes up
[18:49] <aeon-ltd> Roasted_: copy.
[18:49] <tman> yeah i knew that b4 i installed it in a virutalbox
[18:49] <tracy69> tman u should upgrade to 6.04
[18:50] <thomass> can anyone help me browse my windows network?
[18:50] <alessandro_> What happens if I use Tor without polipo on Ubuntu 10.4?
[18:50] <tman> im running 10.04 as my host.
[18:50] <Roasted_> aeon-ltd, its grayed out
[18:50] <aeon-ltd> Roasted_: what dvd is this?
[18:50] <Roasted_> aeon-ltd, my windows XP cd at work. I want to suck up the ISO so I can run it through n-lite and make a new custom CD.
[18:50] <jrib> tman: if it's just for "kicks", you can use old-releases.ubuntu.com as repositories
[18:50] <thomass> can anyone read this?
[18:51] <Roasted_> yes
[18:51] <Roasted_> thomass
[18:51] <thomass> thank you
[18:51] <doncams> hello
[18:51] <tman> do i just add those repos then or how does that work?
[18:52] <Besogon> people, I have 2 interfaces eth0 and eth1. Should I write gateway in 'interfaces' file for eth0 interface if the comuter connect 2 net?
[18:52] <doncams> i'm downloading ubuntu desktop edition. what's the diff with i386 and amd64? sorry, i'm ignorant with these
[18:52] <mickster04> thomass: what seems to be your problem
[18:52] <jrib> tman: changeg the domain name in your sources.list
[18:52] <Besogon> doncams, It depends on your processor
[18:52] <dausmus> Any SL-MODEM gurus here right now?
[18:52] <aeon-ltd> doncams: 32 and 64bit
[18:52] <thomass> doncams, amd is for 64 bit processors and x86 is for 32bit
[18:52] <doncams> i have core2duo 32bit
[18:53] <thomass> doncams,  are you sure its 32 bit? i thought those duos were all 64bit
[18:53] <jrib> doncams: they made 32bit core2duos?
[18:53] <Besogon> doncams, you need i386 edition
[18:53] <mickster04> doncams: you want i386 then
[18:53] <doncams> sorry let me check
[18:53] <thomass> arent all core 2 duo's 64 bit?
[18:53] <aeon-ltd> thomass: yes
[18:53] <jrib> thomass: that's what I thought
[18:53] <thomass> go with amd64 then
[18:54] <doncams> core2duo System type: 32-bit Operating System
[18:54] <mickster04> doncams: eitherway i386 will definatley work :P
[18:54]  * undifined has a 3.9 ghz xeon, which is em64t, so basically a dual 32 bit machine
[18:54] <aeon-ltd> doncams: your os is 32bit not your cpu
[18:54] <doncams> ohhhh
[18:54] <tracy69> whats different between i386 and i686 ?
[18:55] <mickster04> thomass: so do you have a problem with browsing your network?
[18:55] <pfifo> tracy69, 300
[18:55] <aeon-ltd> tracy69: i386 - compiled for one core, i686 compiled for 2 cpus
[18:55] <mickster04> tracy69: implentation number
[18:55] <thomass> doncams, you can run either one you want. 64bit may be a better choice
[18:55] <mickster04> aeon-ltd: really? i thought i saw i486 once?
[18:55] <dausmus> Ok then nobody on with sl-modem expertise, next question: Does anybody know the Ubuntu development status of the SL-MODEM stuff? Did not seem to install by default so I installed the daemon using software center, hand started it in init.d but no joy... who should I talk to about this?
[18:55] <thomass> mickster04, yes. when i click on windows network, it returns the error:
[18:55] <doncams> ok thomas
[18:55] <aeon-ltd> tracy69: wait no i'm wrong, they are just compiled differently to take advantages of different cpu types
[18:55] <joey__> FYI: 10.4 upgrade-manager.... grabbed kernel upgrade; boot problems with initramfs; .... just now, udev upgrade installed; now all works. so i must have upgraded in a window when two important upgrades weren't ready at the same time.
[18:56] <thomass> unable to mount location: failed to retrieve share list from server
[18:56] <Oins> Hi. After a reboot, my ubuntu-server does not start anymore and stops with the message "init: ureadahead-other main process terminated with status 4". What could i do ?
[18:56] <joey__> is /var on root?
[18:56] <mickster04> thomass: have you got a samba shared folder on your pc?
[18:56] <undifined> joey__, whaaich kernel
[18:56] <aeon-ltd> Oins: recovery mode?
[18:56] <aeon-ltd> joey__: yes
[18:56] <tman> sorry for a dumb question but could you give me the path of the sources file?
[18:56] <Oins> aeon-ltd: how can I start the recovery mode?
[18:57] <aeon-ltd> joey__: it doesn;t have to be though
[18:57] <jrib> tman: /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:57] <aeon-ltd> Oins: its a grub option
[18:57] <joey__> 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu
[18:57] <tman> thank you a lot.
[18:57] <thomass> mickster04, i do not. but i can sshfs mount a share if i know the specific name of it
[18:57] <joey__> (x64_64)
[18:57] <thomass> mickster04, the problem is simply browsing the network
[18:57] <Oins> aeon-ltd: there is no grub menu at start. is there a key to show it during boot?
[18:57] <mickster04> thomass: well I have found that if i samba share a folder it sets up samba properly...
[18:57] <aeon-ltd> Oins: Esc or shift, one of those
[18:58] <Oins> aeon-ltd: ok, thank you i will try
[18:58] <undifined> Oins, press shift
[18:58] <MeXTuX> I created an alternative for java but I made a mistake beacause I wrote this sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java jaav /usr/lib/jdk1.6.0_21/jre/bin/java 1 :( I wrote "jaav" instead of "java" Now I wanna remove that alternative and create a new one. Any idea??
[18:58] <thomass> mickster04, samba share a folder on the windows machine?
[18:58] <mickster04> thomass: no on the problem machine
[18:58] <thomass> mickster04, would you be able to help me do that? im new to linux file sharing
[18:59] <rajeshwar> does someone know how do we mount our hard drive in xubuntu???
[18:59] <joey__> Oins: i thought error msgs 4 wasn't critical. it might be that's simply the _last_ message you see and something is bonkers.
[18:59] <joey__> ^else
[18:59] <Cap_J_L_Picard> does anyone know how to stop mail saving mail into a different dir: http://pastebin.com/DP4SSxZX
[19:00] <mickster04> thomass: just open file manager (nautilus) and right-click, share folder...
[19:00] <thomass> mickster04, error:'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Memory allocation error.
[19:01] <thomass> :(
[19:01] <mickster04> thomass: ...i have no idea what that is about
[19:02] <thomass> mickster04, that happened when i clicked share
[19:02] <Oins> joey__: hmm. the Recovery Console brings me to the same line, after this, nothing happens, no shell no reaction
[19:02] <mickster04> thomass: yeah i guessed...humm try in termaal "sudo apt-get install samba"
[19:03] <thomass> mickster04, newest version is installed
[19:03] <Besogon> hey. Should I write a gateway for a server wich should connect 2 networks in interfaces file?
[19:03] <mickster04> thomass: humm no idea, sorry that is beyond me alread y:(
[19:03] <thomass> mickster04, thank you for trying :)
[19:04] <mickster04> thomass: sounds like a igger problem than your computer, and your windows machine(s) work fine?
[19:04] <ReadPlease> shouldn't there be 'gr' keys by default?
[19:04] <thomass> mickster04, they work fine when they havent crashed overnight lol.
[19:05] <ReadPlease> Aren't most US keyboards both-alt gr?
[19:05] <drupalne> hello, i am a newbie on ubuntu,, im using Ubuntu 9.04 / Linux version 2.6.28-19 server, i have my broadcom 5786 (VEN = 14E4  | DEV = 4727) i am seeking a driver for that network adapter, anyone can lead the way?
[19:06] <thomass> drupalne, try a search for the b43 driver. it may cover your driver.
[19:06] <drupalne> mm ok will do that now
[19:07] <thomass> drupalne, ill do a search quick and see if i find anything
[19:07] <drupalne> thomass ty, im also diong that now as i can see that they have drivers near to the DEV and VER but i did not find the exact one till now..
[19:08] <thomass> drupalne, try looking at this page http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netlink.php
[19:08] <_raven_> when will be released ARDOUR with MIDI ?
[19:08] <drupalne> yes as a matter effect i found something called Linux tg3 i downloaded it but i dont know what oes tg3 mean..
[19:09] <Oins> What could i yet do? the recovery console brings me to the same error line "ureadahead-other main process..." nothing happens
[19:09] <crekarasu> hi ! I installed ubuntu but o don't know sudo password ! anyone can help me ?
[19:09] <jrib> !sudo | crekarasu
[19:09] <thomass> drupalne, i think tg3 is the archive file extension
[19:09] <mickster04> crekarasu its your password
[19:09] <jrib> Oins: older kernel?
[19:10] <Oins> jrib: nope, last update
[19:10] <thomass> drupalne, try this http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/driver-sla.php?driver=570x-Linux
[19:10] <pfifo> !gksu
[19:10] <jrib> Oins: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/484677 might be helpful
[19:10] <_raven_> when will be released ARDOUR with MIDI ?
[19:11] <thomass> drupalne, that is the direct link to the download for your driver
[19:11] <jrib> Oins: and I meant, to try to run an older kernel
[19:11] <drupalne> thomass great i downloaded it and i've opened it, i found many files in it including an .rpm extension file
[19:12] <thomass> drupalne, extract the files and read the readme
[19:12] <drupalne> im reading the readme its pretty messed up and they didnt talk anything about installation guide
[19:12] <famicube64> Anyone have some OpenGL game suggestions? I just got a new video card and want to test it.
[19:13] <rooks> is there a way to launch specyfic command on modyfing session before gnome-session starts, like just after gdm login?
[19:13] <drupalne> thomass wait i saw smt called Installing Source RPM Package
[19:13] <Oins> jrib: already tried this link (and an old Kernel) same problem.... last i added a line to /etc/fstab. maybe this is the reason for the failure...
[19:13] <thomass> drupalne, extract the tar.gz file that is inside the orignal archive
[19:13] <jrib> Oins: what exactly did you try from the bug report?
[19:13] <drupalne> thomass i will do that, i saw smt called Building Driver From TAR File also
[19:13] <ax> anyone have info about how to use gnome-keyring-manager or ssh-agent in a non-gnome window manager started via gdm?
[19:13] <thomass> drupalne, read that. everything you need is in that archive
[19:14] <drupalne> aight
[19:14] <Polysics> heeeeeeelp
[19:14] <delac> does anyone have any idead why AT+CREG? might give you +CREG:0,5 immediately after AT+COPS=0 (which should reset the modem) on some carriers?
[19:14] <Oins> jrib: the old kernel the problem is that i can't try a lot, cause i got no shell
[19:14] <jrib> Polysics: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[19:14] <thomass> drupalne, i would be hppy to keep helping you, but i have to leave for football practice
[19:14] <Polysics> i accidentally chmodded the whole of /usr
[19:14] <jrib> Oins: the bug report suggests an older kernel?
[19:14] <Polysics> which apparently blew up quite a bit of things
[19:14] <drupalne> thomass ow.. ty and well good game
[19:14] <thomass> would someone help drupalne build and install a driver from source code?
[19:14] <jrib> Polysics: reinstall
[19:14] <jrib> drupalne: what driver...?
[19:15] <drupalne> jrib wirless driver, broadcom
[19:15] <jrib> drupalne: system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[19:15] <thomass> jrib, he has the source file in an archive
[19:15] <drupalne> :)
[19:15] <drupalne> thomass ty
[19:15] <drupalne> jrib im in there now
[19:15] <Oins> jrib: oh, no but you suggested it ;)
[19:15] <thomass> drupalne, no problem! have a great day
[19:16] <drupalne> thomass ty! same to u!
[19:16] <jrib> Oins: right, but I'm telling you to review the bug as one of the comments towards the end suggests there is a workaround in the dupe
[19:16] <Besogon> When do we need ip forwarding?
[19:16] <drupalne> jrib  there is no hardware drivers.. im using Ubuntu 9.04 / Linux version 2.6.28-19 server, i have my broadcom 5786 (VEN = 14E4  | DEV = 4727)
[19:16] <jrib> drupalne: use a newer ubuntu version
[19:16] <Oins> jrib: ah ok. sorry haven't read this. i will have a look. one moment
[19:16] <drupalne> jrib i successfully downloaded the specific driver
[19:17] <drupalne> jrib i cant i am stuck with this.. its cloudera VM ware
[19:17] <jpds> Besogon: When you're building a router.
[19:17] <delac> is there any IRC channel where I could talk about modem-manager?
[19:17] <jrib> drupalne: no idea what cloudera vmware is
[19:17] <jpds> delac: #nm
[19:17] <jrib> !wireless > drupalne
[19:17] <delac> jpds: ty
[19:18] <Polysics> jrib: reinatall?really?
[19:18] <jrib> Polysics: yes
[19:18] <jrib> Polysics: that's the fastest and easiest way
[19:18] <Polysics> oh no :-(
[19:18] <drupalne> jrib no need to know what is cloudera bro.. i just want to know how to install the rpm / .tar.giz files that i downloaded to make the wireless adapter work
[19:18] <jrib> drupalne: read ubottu's link I guess.  However, I recommend you install ubuntu 10.04 as you should just get the broadcom STA driver in Hardware Drivers then
[19:19] <eblume> Hello! Is there any way to see which driver is identifying a given ethernet interface?
[19:19] <benbloom> is there a way to bring up a running process from one X server to another via SSH without restarting the process?
[19:19] <isnoop> Hello all.  How do I determine the max size of a shared memory segment in Ubuntu?
[19:19] <jrib> benbloom: probably not
[19:19] <bludog_anchorite> need some help with tftpd, or tftpd-hpa.  any takers ?
[19:19] <Besogon> jpds, for instanse, I have 2 ethernet cards. One LAN with dhcp server and one LAN wich is being used dhcp-relay. So to connect this 2 network I need ip forwarding, don't I?
[19:20] <jrib> benbloom: MAYBE xpra
[19:20] <eblume> benbloom: Sorry, no. You might look in to RDP as a kludge-ish solution if all you need to do is interact with an already-running application remotely.
[19:20] <jrib> bludog_anchorite: ask an actual question...
[19:20] <drupalne> jrib i see this documentation is for a newer version of ubuntu, can u please help me with the installation of the driver that i downloaded
[19:20] <jrib> drupalne: no
[19:20] <jrib> drupalne: view the page's history if that's really true...
[19:20] <bludog_anchorite> tftp works to "get".  need to be able to "put" w/o creating a file on the /tftpboot first
[19:21] <drupalne> page history ?
[19:21] <bludog_anchorite> adding server_args = -s -c /tftpboot makes it not work at all
[19:21] <benbloom> k thanks jrib and eblume
[19:21] <jrib> bludog_anchorite: this channel reads one line at a time until you actually start having a conversation with someone
[19:22] <eblume> Does anyone know of a way to determine which loadable module is enabling a given ethernet interface, without unloading modules systematically until the interface dissapears?
[19:22] <m4dv0y1> asda
[19:22] <jpds> m4dv0y1: You're in the wrong place if you want ASDA.
[19:22] <bludog_anchorite> jrib: i know how irc works thanks.
[19:23] <bludog_anchorite> in 10.04 server, does anyone know how to set up tftp to receive files, w/o having to create the file first in the /tftpboot directory ?  this is for provisioning phones via tftp
[19:24] <jrib> drupalne: yes, it's a wiki
[19:25] <trism> eblume: ethtool -i eth0; or whatever interface
[19:25] <eblume> bludog_anchorite: I'm not familiar with tftp, but maybe http://www.voipstore.com/how-to-setup-and-configure-a-tftp-server/ helps
[19:25] <eblume> trism: perfect, thank you!
[19:26] <sam_sam> how can i open .chm files on ubuntu?
[19:26] <glaksmono> can we install apache tomcat and regular apache at the same time?
[19:26] <jrib> sam_sam: xchm, gnochm
[19:26] <datacrusher> i wish mp3 and rmvb suport, does ubuntu-restricted-extras cover this codecs?
[19:26] <jrib> datacrusher: try and see, definitely covers mp3
[19:27] <pfifo> datacrusher, yes rmvb works
[19:27] <bludog_anchorite> eblume: thank you for the link.  however that describes how to do it for windows.
[19:27] <eblume> bludog_anchorite: apologies that's windows
[19:27] <bludog_anchorite> lol
[19:27] <eblume> Yeah. Hahah. Didn't see that until too late.
[19:27] <bludog_anchorite> no worries
[19:28] <eblume> bludog_anchorite: the Ubuntu community doc is a bit thin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Provisioning/TFTP
[19:28] <bludog_anchorite> strange thing is i have it working just fine in 8.04, but 10.04 w/ the same config is different somehow
[19:30] <eblume> Now here's a strange question. I'm using the ubuntu-netbook metapackage on my large-screen desktop because I like many of the layout tweaks. However, I am not a fan of how opening a new window on any desktop causes all other windows to minimize.
[19:30] <eblume> Does anyone know how I can disable that?
[19:30] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, what exactly is the problem?
[19:31] <asdzek> Hi. I have a windows xp iso file, I would like to copy content of this .iso file to my pendrive and make it bootable. How can I do that under ubuntu?
[19:31] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: i have a tftp server that i need to "put" files on without having to log into the server and create the file first
[19:31] <muellisoft> asdzek: that's a highly windows specific issue. So you won't find an answer in here.
[19:32] <xangua> asdzek: don't thinks is possible besides it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:32] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, and whats stopping you?
[19:32] <eblume> asdzek: you'll probably want the usb-creater package but I don't know if that package is ubuntu-specific.
[19:32] <xangua> eblume: that's only for linux distros
[19:32] <bludog_anchorite> it gives me permission errors if i try to "put" without logging into the server first and "touch"ing the file
[19:32] <asdzek> are you kidding me? making bootable USB stick is "highly  windows specific issue"?
[19:33] <Arepie> Hi, i have ubuntu server as my guess OS via vmware from my win7. Im in a LAN network with router. How could i manage to let other user ssh my server?
[19:33] <Muelli> asdzek: making a *Windows* bootable off a pendrive is.
[19:33] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, what error?
[19:33] <taffflash> sebsebseb: HELLO THRE
[19:33] <bludog_anchorite> error code 2 permission denied
[19:34] <dajhorn> Arepie: Use bridged networking and the Ubuntu VM will appear on the network.
[19:34] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: or in the case of tftpd-hpa, i get a "error code 1: file not found"
[19:34] <dajhorn> Arepie: You must also install the openssh-server package.
[19:34] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, dose your tftpd support file uploads?
[19:35] <eblume> Arepie: I can confirm dajhorn's response, you're looking for bridged networking. If your host was a linux distro you'd want the 'bridge-tools' package.
[19:35] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: it does if i create the file on the server first.  then it will update the file
[19:35] <mlaci> hi guys! anybody knows the url for the non-free apt repository of 10.4?
[19:35] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: but if i try to upload a file not already on the server, it errors
[19:35] <drupalne> 2. Build the driver tg3.o (or tg3.ko) as a loadable module for the
[19:35] <drupalne> running kernel:
[19:36] <drupalne> i cannot find any tg3.o or tg3.ko as im trying to install from a tar file..
[19:36] <mickster04> mlaci: isn't it in the soource.list file, commented oout?
[19:36] <drupalne> anone can help.. im trying to installa a broadcom wireless driver in ubuntu 9
[19:36] <Arepie> dajhorn: thanks, i will try it. :)
[19:36] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, it sounds like the permissions of the /tftp director is wrong, is it owned by the user the daemon runs as?
[19:36] <Arepie> eblume: thanks too
[19:36] <dajhorn> Arepie: Welcome.
[19:37] <mlaci> mickster04, no. i've already checked that out and i cannot found it
[19:37] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: yes, all files are owned by "nobody" which is the user tftp runs as.  the directory is also chmod'ed 777
[19:37] <mickster04> drupalne: get 10.04?
[19:37] <dajhorn> mlaci: Enable the "restricted" option in the "System -> Administration -> Software Sources" panel.
[19:37] <drupalne> mickster04 im stuck with this version, its mandatory..
[19:37] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, what about the directory itself?
[19:38] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: yes.  chmod -R and chown -R
[19:38] <mickster04> drupalne: what? mandatory? that sounds crazy to me :P sorry
[19:38] <bludog_anchorite> ls -l aggrees
[19:39] <dajhorn> mlaci: The five primary components of the Ubuntu repository are:  main restricted universe multiverse  -- anything else is in the partner or medibuntu repo.
[19:39] <drupalne> mickster04 heheeh.. well yea, im using a pre installed vmware with this version of ubuntu, i cannot change it since all the installations and stuff are in it.. it would be really hard to install Hbase again :*)
[19:39] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: i also read to add -c to "server_args = /tftpboot" but that causes the server to stop working all together
[19:39] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, then your configuration must be preventing file uploads, can you pastebin your config
[19:39] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: sure.  btw, this config works fine in 8.04 for uploads, but not in 10.04
[19:40] <drupalne> mickster04 im almost half way there, but im finding it hard to install the wirless driver.. using the tar file..
[19:40] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, did you just copy the old file to the new server?
[19:40] <mlaci> dajhorn, well, the restricted repository is already enabled in my sources.list .  hmm, maybe the tor package has been removed...
[19:40] <mickster04> drupalne: nope beyond me :(
[19:41] <LiTo_16> hello hola
[19:41] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/cMn99RvS
[19:41] <tracy69> Lito_16 hola hombre
[19:41] <drupalne> mickster04 could you help by reading the Readme file in the archive from http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/driver-sla.php?driver=570x-Linux plz
[19:41] <mlaci> dajhorn, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ also says that there is no tor package. anybody knows whether it has been removed and if so, why?
[19:41] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, while your at it pastebin the output of 'ls -la /tftpboot'
[19:41] <area51pilot> druplane
[19:41] <LiTo_16> alguien ke contes xD eres chico o chica?
[19:41] <area51pilot> druplane: what is the broadcom model
[19:42] <rww> ubottu: es | LiTo_16
[19:42] <dajhorn> mlaci:   The TOR project runs their own repository now.  Use the repo line that they are publishing.
[19:42] <LiTo_16> ok
[19:42] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: ls -la http://pastebin.com/uie5AcgM
[19:42] <xangua> rww: I don't think he is looking for ubuntu support :S
[19:43] <rww> mlaci: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en , option two
[19:43] <LiTo_16> Hello Girls
[19:43] <area51pilot> have u tried b43-fwcutter?
[19:43] <rww> xangua: Apparently.
[19:43] <mickster04> drupalne: what don't you get?
[19:43] <mlaci> dajhorn, rww: thanks guys, i'll use another repo. it's weird that tor is not accessible from any ubuntu repo, though
[19:44] <antonpiatek> Anyone know how to install a maverick vserver on a debian box? upstart is causing it to fail
[19:44] <Pici> !10.10 | antonpiatek
[19:45] <drupalne> mickster04 i've created the tar file.. in the second step they tell me to build the tg3.o or tg3.ko, and go to cd src; therefor i dont find any tg3.o or tg3.ko anywhere..
[19:45] <mickster04> drupalne: you dont create the tar file? its already there?
[19:46] <Crankygeek01> I would like to setup a VNC server so that I can remotely log in even if I have to restart the box remotely. Any one have ideas on how to do something like that?
[19:46] <drupalne> mickster04 yes it is already there
[19:46] <mickster04> drupalne: read the first line under "building driver for tar" again
[19:46] <Jordan_U> drupalne: You shouldn't need to compile anything for broadcom cards. Have you tried connecting via ethernet and using System > Administration > Hardware Drivers ?
[19:46] <Arthur_D> I am trying to connect a game with a friend through with cables through a network switch. And I'm configuring this manually in Network Manager. Problem is, the network manager wants me to give a DNS, and I don't have any/don't know of any. Could anyone please help me ASAP?
[19:47] <drupalne> Jordan_U, i didnt find any Hardware Drivers in Administration
[19:47] <Jordan_U> drupalne: Wait, if this *is* an ethernet card then it really should just work out of the box.
[19:47] <bludog_anchorite> Arthur_D: try 208.67.222.222    that is openDNS
[19:47] <drupalne> mickster04 yes i did tar successfully
[19:47] <mickster04> ok so now cd intot that folder?
[19:47] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, is there actually a user named nobody on your machine
[19:47] <drupalne> Jordan_U, it is.. i am using it on Windows 7, trying toconfigure it into the vmware/ubuntu
[19:47] <mickster04> what do you see if you tpye ls
[19:47] <mickster04> ?
[19:48] <glaksmono> where is the installation binary for tomcat?
[19:48] <Arthur_D> bludog_anchorite: thanks, what about search domains?
[19:48] <bludog_anchorite> Arthur_D: leave blank
[19:48] <drupalne> mickster04 ChangeLog         README.TXT  tg3-3.110g-1.src.rpm  tg3_sup-3.110g-1.ISO.tar.gz
[19:48] <drupalne> linux-3.110g.zip  tg3-3.110g  tg3-3.110g.tar.gz
[19:48] <eblume> Arthur_D: have you tried leaving those blank?
[19:48] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: um, i THINK
[19:48] <Arthur_D> yeah
[19:48] <martez89> I tried installing unity in 10.04 but I only got blank screen errors, so I removed it. But now back in gnome for some reason the menu for apps is in my indicator applet.
[19:48] <mickster04> drupalne: no untar the tg3-3.110g.tar.gz
[19:48] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, 'cat /etc/password' to make sure. next tell me the command that your using to upload a file
[19:49] <Arthur_D> eblume: yeah, but then I can't press Apply then
[19:49] <pfifo> passwd*
[19:49] <FoolishOwl> Hello folks. Evolution is driving me nuts -- it's slow, and often fails to display emails that include HTML. I'm thinking of switching to Thunderbird, or maybe Seamonkey. Any reason not to?
[19:49] <martez89> how can I remove the menu items from the indicator applet?
[19:49] <glaksmono> i installed tomcat, where's the default folder???!?!?1
[19:49] <glaksmono> :(
[19:49] <eblume> FoolishOwl: Off the top of my head, does Thunderbird support Exchange?
[19:49] <eblume> If not, and you need Exchange, then yeah, that's a reason.
[19:50] <FoolishOwl> eblume, I don't know. My main use is for reading Gmail via IMAP.
[19:50] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: cat /etc/passwd shows nobody listed on both boxes.  command i am using is tftp xxx.xxx.xxx.133 .... tftp> put localfile.txt
[19:50] <eblume> glaksmono: there is a dpkg option to list files created by a package. I forget what it is. Someone else surely knows?
[19:50] <eblume> FoolishOwl: then you should be fine switching to whatever.
[19:50] <LiTo_16> SEX ??
[19:51] <Pici> LiTo_16: This is a support channel, not a dating service.
[19:51] <mattt_> I can't find any information on how to use aptitude with a state bundle.  After running aptitude-run-state-bundle the aptitude UI appears, but what do I do then?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> drupalne: Are you running Ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[19:51] <eblume> Pici: more's the pitty!
[19:51] <roszak> Hello everyone.  I have an amd dual boot machine that is running debian and ubuntu 10 (recently updated - i think the kernel is 2.6.35).  I am on the debian side right now because I am unable to connect to the internet through a wired connection to a cable modem with ubuntu (network manager is not managing the debian side, it seems).  I would love to get the ubuntu up and running with my new internet, but at the moment it gives only 4
[19:51] <roszak> 04 errors.  Any ideas would be much aprreciated.
[19:51] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, try > put /tftpboot/localfile.txt
[19:51] <philinux> Ok, portrait photo's in nautilus get turned the right way up even though they have not been rotated, is there a setting to disable this
[19:51] <Pici> roszak: Are you running 10.10?
[19:51] <xangua> roszak: kernel 2.6.35¿ you mean maverick¿
[19:52] <FoolishOwl> roszak, I'm not sure what might be causing that problem, but you could bypass Network Manager by configuring your connection in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:52] <mickster04> drupalne: better ow?
[19:52] <mickster04> drupalne: better now?*
[19:52] <tracy69> xangua, i have lucid Linux matrix 2.6.35-19-generic #25~lucid1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 25 04:24:28 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:52] <joey__> okay. all set. beyond today's upgrade issue; 10.4 is working nice :)
[19:53] <glaksmono> guys
[19:53] <glaksmono> help
[19:53] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: same.  error code 2: access violation.  if i were to log into the server first and create localfile.txt using the touch command, it will let me upload the file then
[19:53] <glaksmono> i have apache tomcat and regular apache installed, i'm wondering on how can i run apache tomcat?
[19:53] <drupalne> mickster04 ok i've done that now, it created a folder named tg3-3.110g this it its ls : ChangeLog , LICENSE , Makefile , makeflags.sh , README.TXT , tg3.4 , tg3.c , tg3_compat2.h , tg3_compat.h , tg3_firmware.h , tg3.h , tg3_vmware.c , tg3_vmware.h
[19:53] <drupalne> Jordan_U yes i am using VMware 7
[19:55] <roszak> xangua: i'm pretty sure it's 2.6.35 - guess that's maverick?  I would need to boot into to it to know for sure, and right now only the debian works.   i'll drop the irc connection for a sec and check.
[19:56] <drupalne> damn he left..
[19:56] <eblume> drupalne: I haven't been following, but I'm 90% sure you want to run "make"
[19:56] <martez89> can anyone help me remove this from the indicator applet?: http://i.imgur.com/IJlb8.png
[19:56] <eblume> drupalne: probably followed by a "sudo make install"
[19:57] <xangua> martez89: are you using the unity ppa¿
[19:57] <drupalne> eblume hehe yea well the next step is cd src, then make
[19:57] <xangua> disable it with ppa-pirge
[19:57] <xangua> ppa-purge*
[19:57] <drupalne> eblume 2. Build the driver tg3.o (or tg3.ko) as a loadable module for the running kernel: cd src | make
[19:58] <martez89> I tried installing it, gave me only a blank screen so I removed it
[19:58] <eblume> drupalne: Yup. Do that.
[19:58] <drupalne> eblume The driver will be compiled for the running kernel by default. To build the driver for a kernel different than the running one, specify the kernel by defining it in KVER:  make KVER=<kernel version>
[19:58] <drupalne> eblume there is no "src" i guess they mean by that, the newly created file
[19:58] <Crankygeek01> I am trying to configure a VNC server to start up when I boot the machine, I don't want to have to log into the computer to be able to connect remotely.....that way I can remotely reboot and still be able to log in...Any ideas?
[19:58] <martez89> I removed the ppa
[19:58] <eblume> drupalne: whatever folder has the Makefile, that's the folder you want to run make in.
[19:58] <martez89> but not with ppa-purge
[19:58] <drupalne> eblume the new file is tg3-3.110g this it its ls : ChangeLog , LICENSE , Makefile , makeflags.sh , README.TXT , tg3.4 , tg3.c , tg3_compat2.h , tg3_compat.h , tg3_firmware.h , tg3.h , tg3_vmware.c , tg3_vmware.h == no tg3.o or tg3.ko in it
[19:59] <eblume> drupalne: did you run make yet? tg3.[ko,o] won't exist until you do.
[19:59] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, at this point you have 2 tftpd serves installed, are you sure that you are running the right program?
[19:59] <drupalne> oh ok
[19:59] <eblume> drupalne: make will "make" those files.
[19:59] <eblume> (well technically cc will - but make runs cc)
[19:59] <drupalne> eblume it gave me alot of no such directory
[20:00] <martez89> so is there any other option?
[20:00] <eblume> drupalne: can you point me to the source you are trying to build? Where can I get this file?
[20:00] <drupalne> eblume http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/driver-sla.php?driver=570x-Linux
[20:00] <eblume> drupalne: thank you, one moment.
[20:00] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: im sure.  i have way more than 2 servers over here
[20:01] <drupalne> eblume sure tyt:)
[20:01] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: the 8.04 tftp server works fine.  i am adding one to a 10.04 box for other devices to use
[20:02] <glaksmono> any idea what's the problem with this? http://pastebin.com/s1iknKMr
[20:02] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, you should uninstall the other tftp packages and have only one installed on that machine.
[20:03] <martez89> i found some unity packages
[20:03] <martez89> ill remove themn
[20:03] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: only one tftp server is installed per pc here.  i think we misunderstood eachother
[20:03] <eblume> drupalne: it worked fine for me. I downloaded that file, unzipped it. I changed directory to "Server/Linux/Driver". I expanded the "tg3-3.110g.tar.gz" archive (archives in an archive? Yuck!)
[20:03] <delemi> NickServ set email delemi@gmail.com
[20:03] <eblume> drupalne: I changed in to that new expanded archive and ran "make"
[20:04] <ChogyDan> glaksmono: does the directory exist?  maybe it doesnt
[20:04] <pm2> I've having an unusual problem with Yahoo messenger on my network.  I'm using a linux firewall to do NAT, that right now does not block any traffic.  We're having trouble receiving messages over yahoo messenger on some internal computers, when the messages originate from outside the network.  Is there any chance that its firewall related?  We're just using iptables on the latest ubuntu
[20:04] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, ok good, what verson is on you 8.04 machine and what version is on your 10.04 machine?
[20:04] <eblume> drupalne: Is that similar to what you saw?
[20:04] <pm2> We're not having any other NAT related problems that I'm aware of
[20:04] <drupalne> eblume 1 sec, i will try to do the same here :| even if i understoop about 70% of what u said :P
[20:05] <Oins> i installed ubuntu desktop on an usb-stick. after booting i tried to install lvm2, but there are many errors. is there a liveCD where lvm2 is already  installed?
[20:05] <eblume> drupalne: No worries. Unless we're seeing drastically different things for some reason, this is a very common Linux operation, so knowing how to do it is important. I'll be glad to walk you through it.
[20:05] <martez89> Also I have a problem with deluge, everytime I start it (autostart with ubuntu) a lot of torrents are stuck on checking.
[20:05] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: forgot the command to print installed package version
[20:05] <dajhorn> Oins: The alternate ISO should have all of the extra storage packages.
[20:06] <drupalne> eblume ty.. u see im still a newbie and i know this isnt hard, but i dont know what it gave me the no such file or directory, im sure im in the right folder..
[20:06] <eblume> drupalne: what is the output of "pwd"?
[20:07] <drupalne> eblume /home/training/Desktop/wireless/Server/tg3-3.110g
[20:07] <pfifo> bludog_anchorite, dpkg --list|grep ftp
[20:07] <pfifo> brb
[20:07] <Moral_> I need some bash help, I need to find a file that was created on a certain date, but I don't know the location, or the name...
[20:07] <alabd> Good day all , can 10.04 be installed on this notebook ?http://www.rayanehamrah.ir/ShowProduct.aspx?ProID=445
[20:08] <eblume> drupalne: we're seeing a different thing. When I expanded the file you pointed me at, I got a folder called "Server", which had a folder inside of it called "Linux", which had a folder inside of it called "Driver". Did you not get that?
[20:08] <sivas> How come when I start my computer, grub loads to a terminal instead of the menu?
[20:08] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: the 8.04 box is runnint 0.17-15 , the `10.04 is running 0.17-17
[20:08] <Crankygeek01> I am trying to configure a VNC server to start up when I boot the machine, I don't want to have to log into the computer to be able to connect remotely.....that way I can remotely reboot and still be able to log in...Any ideas?
[20:08] <shuman> Moral_: maybe man find can help
[20:08] <drupalne> eblume sure but i deleted the inner files and cut those inner files in the main folder: Server
[20:08] <eblume> drupalne: when I say "did you not get that", I mean that as in "did you not see those same results?"
[20:09] <Soulsaker> hi all, I need to remove someone in a photo, how i can?
[20:09] <drupalne> eblume should i re-unzip them and leave them intact ?
[20:09] <Oins> dajhorn: ok thank you!
[20:09] <eblume> drupalne: so just to be sure, you're saying you moved the file called tg3-3.110g.tar.gz up to the Server directory?
[20:09] <bludog_anchorite> pfifo: gotta run for 30 or so.  thank you for your help.  i will return shortly.  PM me with any ideas
[20:10] <tadcrazio> Does anyone know if it is possible to set up a univeristy email through evolution? since its at a .edu (although it uses hotmail)
[20:10] <drupalne> eblume yes the ls of "Server" is ChangeLog   tg3-3.110g            tg3-3.110g.tar.gz
[20:10] <drupalne> README.TXT  tg3-3.110g-1.src.rpm  tg3_sup-3.110g-1.ISO.tar.gz
[20:10] <eblume> tadcrazio: Nothing specific to your question precludes it. There could be any number of reasons why Evolution wouldn't work though, but nothing you've specified indicates it wouldn't work.
[20:10] <SOS> when I boot up from the 10.04 ubuntu cd, it get this error about installation failing or something, and it takes me to the desktop
[20:11] <eblume> drupalne: ok that's fine then - change directory into tg3-3.110g and give me the output of "ls" again.
[20:11] <arielbbraverman3> yo
[20:11] <arielbbraverman3> what up my niggas prime
[20:11] <tadcrazio> well my email is like johndoe@student.harvard.edu
[20:11] <tadcrazio> what would i type in evolution
[20:11] <drupalne> eblume the ls of tg3-3.11g is ChangeLog  makeflags.sh  tg3.c          tg3_firmware.h  tg3_vmware.c
[20:11] <drupalne> LICENSE    README.TXT    tg3_compat2.h  tg3_flags.h     tg3_vmware.h
[20:11] <drupalne> Makefile   tg3.4         tg3_compat.h   tg3.h
[20:11] <xangua> Soulsaker: with image editor gimp, pinta maybe¿
[20:11] <arielbbraverman3> yo yo
[20:11] <xangua> !pastebin > drupalne
[20:12] <IdleOne> !language | arielbbraverman3
[20:12] <denysonique> Hi
[20:12] <tracy79> guys whats different between i386 and i686 ?
[20:12] <eblume> drupalne: Let's move to a private message, I'm afraid we're bothering people in this channel.
[20:12] <denysonique> is anyone here experiencing problems with backlight on a Samsung laptop?
[20:12] <xangua> tadcrazio: http://lifehacker.com/5169684/hotmail-finally-enables-pop3-worldwide
[20:12] <drupalne> eblume sure : http://paste.ubuntu.com/486922/
[20:12] <xangua> tracy79: 32bit, 64bit
[20:13] <tadcrazio> thanks xangua
[20:13] <tjubaluba> Can one verify that a build using dpkg-buildpackage worked well - or that all build tasks completed?
[20:13] <jrib> tjubaluba: erm, are you asking whether dpkg-buildpackage works in general?
[20:13] <mattt_> i686 isn't necessarily 64-bit
 i dont think so i installed 32 ver of ubuntu and it show i686
[20:13] <SOS> when I boot up from the 10.04 ubuntu cd, it get this error about installation failing or something, and it takes me to the desktop. I don't get to see the error becaues it flashes off the secreen in a split second
[20:13] <mattt_> it's just the 6th gen x86 arch
[20:14] <xangua> tracy79: looks like i need glasses :S
[20:14] <mattt_> tracy79: 386 and newer, or pentium pro and newer
[20:14] <sivas> if i am going to dual boot, which partition should i put grub on?
[20:15] <tracy79> mattt_, what do you mean by 386 and newer ?
[20:15] <pfifo> if / is my c:\ drive then what is my A:\ drive?
[20:15] <jrib> pfifo: / isn't your c: drive
[20:16] <mattt_> tracy79: The 386 was one of intel's earlier CPUs.. circa 1985
[20:16] <mattt_> i386 stuff would be compiled to run on that architecture (so it'd work on later intel archs)
[20:16] <tracy79> ok even when i install ubuntu 32 and it detect i have q9000 it will install i686 right?
[20:16] <jrib> pfifo: forget about windows, / is the roof of your filesystem and partitions get mounted to directories...
[20:17] <jrib> pfifo: s/roof/root
[20:18] <mattt_> tracy79, sure, if that's what's available.
[20:18] <tracy79> ok
[20:18] <pfifo> sjib i shouldnt have an s:/ drive only A and C
[20:18] <rsvp> how does the markings from SYNAPTIC note removal and complete removal of packages??
[20:18] <jrib> pfifo: huh?
[20:19] <pfifo> jrib> pfifo: s/roof/root
[20:19] <jrib> rsvp: what do you mean by "note"
[20:19] <jrib> pfifo: s/foo/bar means: I made a typo, replace "foo" with "bar" in what I just said
[20:19] <rsvp> jrib, mark explicitly
[20:19] <jrib> rsvp: what's your question?  You're asking how synaptic works or what?
[20:20] <yeastwars> is there any particular reason why my battery life would last about half as long on ubuntu as when using windows? I'm not running anything particularly cpu intensive except for firefox...
[20:20] <dajhorn> pfifo: Removable media, like in a floppy drive, is mounted under the /media folder.
[20:20] <jabba> hello
[20:20] <SOS> when I boot up from the 10.04 ubuntu cd, it get this error about installation failing or something, and it takes me to the desktop. I don't get to see the error because it flashes off the screen in a split second, but then I'm at the ubuntu desktp anyway. However, when I go to actually install ubuntu, it goes through everything, but fails to install GRUB with some pkg error
[20:20] <dajhorn> yeastwars: What is the manufacturer and model of your laptop computer?
[20:21] <eshannon> hello everyone
[20:21] <pfifo> ohh /media/floppy ok cool
[20:21] <jrib> SOS: did you checksum the cd?
[20:21] <yeastwars> dajhorn: qdell inspiron 640m
[20:21] <rsvp> after installing A and B, synaptic notes both, after removing A, does synaptic note A removed, only B remains, or just B only install in its markings.
[20:21] <SOS> jrib: no
[20:21] <jrib> SOS: do that
[20:21] <SOS> jrib: how?
[20:21] <jrib> !verify | SOS
[20:21] <sivas> which partition should grub be installed on if i want to dual boot?
[20:22] <SOS> jrib: this is a pressed cd
[20:22] <jrib> SOS: doesn't matter.
[20:22] <jrib> SOS: I've gotten a bunch of pressed CDs with bad burns
[20:22] <jabba> can anyone recommend an automounter for usb-drives which creates mount points like the labels of the corresponding partitions?
[20:22] <jabba> (for ubuntu server)
[20:22] <dajhorn> yeastwars: If you enabled disk indexing or anything like trackerd, then Ubuntu will eat power until the first indexing is completely finished.
[20:22] <eshannon> I have a problem playing videos on my Computer. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and the colors are blueish and gray scaled. I have tried VLC and Movie Maker. All pictures and other graphic are great qaulity
[20:23] <dajhorn> yeastwars: Add the cpufreq applet to your panel and watch whether Ubuntu is downclocking your CPU appropriately.
[20:23] <ChogyDan> eshannon: nvidia?
[20:23] <yeastwars> dajhorn: I've had ubuntu running for over 2 weeks and indexing is off
[20:23] <jabba> hmm and filesystem-dependend mount-options would be nice
[20:23] <eshannon> Yes Nvidia
[20:23] <eshannon> I am running the recommended version
[20:24] <yeastwars> dajhorn: installing the applet (and powertop, just in casE)
[20:24] <coz_> eshannon,  did you also install ubuntu restricted extras
[20:25] <dajhorn> yeast: Okay, if you don't already have it, then install the laptop-detect and laptop-mode packages.   These things do some automagic power management.
[20:25] <eshannon> don't remember Will go look
[20:25] <Vagrant_> Hi guys! Using the default "Keyboard Shortcuts" GUI in Ubuntu 10.04 I want to make it so that when I press Ctrl+Q it outputs Alt+Home. Does anyone know how to do this
[20:25] <coz_> eshannon,   also you want to run this command if you are going to play dvd's     sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:25] <bryancan> so if one were to want to patch thier captivate i897 kernel to try and fix the constant shut off issue, where would he look for guidance ?
[20:25] <ChosenOne> hey
[20:25] <coz_> eshannon,  do you have sun java installed?
[20:25] <Vagrant_> Sorry, I forgot a "?"
[20:26] <pfifo> ok so i put the files on the floppy and then put them over to my windows XP computer and when I try to open the disk it wants me to format the disk in drive A
[20:26] <ChosenOne> network manager somehow does not want to "connect" to my wired network, when I enable ipv6... is this a known issue? I googled a fix, which said to enable ipv6 in ufw, but that didnt help
[20:26] <eshannon> Yes I have sun java installed
[20:26] <alabd> Good day all , can 10.04 be installed on this notebook ?http://www.rayanehamrah.ir/ShowProduct.aspx?ProID=445
[20:26] <coz_> eshannon, ok  then open synaptic package manager
[20:26] <tracy79> i been reading about html5 on youtube website does it mean in few months we wont need to use java anymore ?
[20:26] <ReadPlease> Which kernel should I install?
[20:26] <coz_> eshannon,   hit the search button and type in ubutu restricted
[20:26] <alabd> Core i5
[20:27] <coz_> eshannon,  tell me if this is installed
[20:27] <ReadPlease> I'm on a P4.
[20:27] <ChogyDan> eshannon: run the nvidia graphics tool, and make sure that color correction is correct
[20:27] <SOS> jrib: how do I md5 checksum a cd with the windows version?
[20:27] <tracy79> i mean flash not java
[20:27] <ChosenOne> alabd: sorry, but the page doesnt load for me :O
[20:27] <eshannon> I just installed the restricted pacakages
[20:27] <Vagrant_> Hi guys! Using the default "Keyboard Shortcuts" GUI in Ubuntu 10.04 I want to make it so that when I press Ctrl+Q it outputs Alt+Home. Does anyone know how to do this?
[20:27] <coz_> eshannon,  ok keep synaptic opened
[20:27] <init6> Is there a network-manager-* plugin for an IPsec VPN based on shared secret and not certificates?
[20:27] <alabd> ChosenOne: http://www.rayanehamrah.ir/ShowProduct.aspx?ProID=445
[20:27] <coz_> eshannon,  now hit search and type in  icedtea
[20:27] <ReadPlease> what's all this virtual/generic/386 stuff?
[20:27] <Vagrant_> Sorry, hit the wrong button.. didn't mean to repost
[20:27] <coz_> eshannon,   when that list opens  uninstall ALL of the ones listed there
[20:27] <ReadPlease> Should I install virtual because it's a VM?
[20:27] <Nirkus> hi! on ubuntu lucid (10.04) which group membership enables users to mount devices not in the fstab?
[20:28] <ChosenOne> alabd: Firefox can't find the server at www.rayanehamrah.ir (that means that DNS does not work for me)
[20:28] <alabd> ChosenOne: "5010" insprion
[20:28] <eshannon> Installing
[20:28] <ChosenOne> alabd: from dell?
[20:29] <alabd> yes
[20:29] <coz_> eshannon,  ok  wait  you are install which?
[20:29] <mbroeker> Nirkus, i think plugdev for usb devices and cdrom for cdroms
[20:29] <ChosenOne> I have a 13z inspiron and it works *really* well, alabd
[20:29] <eshannon> Oops I need to unistall missed that
[20:29] <ChosenOne> alabd: I suppose this will most probably go for other dells as well :)
[20:29] <alabd> ChosenOne: xp does nt work on this why ?
[20:29] <ChogyDan> eshannon: ping me if that other stuff doesn't work
[20:29] <mickster04> alabd: cause its windows?
[20:29] <coz_> eshannon,  yes when you hit search and type  icedtea  UNINSTALL all of the ones already installed
[20:30] <ChosenOne> alabd: xp works too, I think :)
[20:30] <SOS> jrib: how do I md5 checksum a cd with the windows version?
[20:30] <SOS> all i see to do is to checksum a file, not a cd
[20:30] <ChosenOne> ...anyone knows why network-manager fails with ipv6-networks?
[20:31] <dajhorn> Nirkus:  In a default Ubuntu environment, the desktop environment should do automatic mounting of drives in gvfs for regular users.
[20:31] <eshannon> Thanks ChogyDan
[20:31] <Shogoot> Anyone know of a downloadmanager that will work on ubuntu with Chrome?
[20:31] <Hounddog> hi people, i just installed ubuntu server and after installation it is just showing "loading operating system..." and not going any furthor
[20:31] <Hounddog> "further"
[20:32] <alabd> thanks God blessyou bye
[20:32] <dajhorn> ChosenOne: nm-applet only got complete ipv6 handling last April, which means that it might not be in Lucid, and certainly isn't in earlier releases.  The easy solution is to disable ipv6.  A harder solution would be to try your luck with the Maverick package.
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[20:32] <eshannon> coz_ All removed and I have installed the restricted drivers
[20:32] <buzain> i have ubuntu 10.04 server running as a VM in VMWare player on windows 7 64bit and the arrow keys don't work. any suggestions?
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[20:32] <coz_> eshannon,  ok   now try out the videos
[20:33] <coz_> jayne,  stop
[20:33] <eshannon> Still same problem
[20:33] <AaronMT> ban
[20:33] <ChosenOne> ...lol
[20:33] <coz_> eshannon,  mmm
[20:33] <pfifo> jayne, what about me?
[20:33] <coz_> eshannon,  which video player are you using?
[20:33] <pipeep> what is with all these spammers?
[20:33] <seidos> s/jayne/jayyne
[20:33] <ZykoticK9> AaronMT, ChosenOne, pipeep  don't talk about it!  don't make comments
[20:33] <Pici> Its already been taken care of. I now return you to your regularly scheduled support channel.
[20:33] <SOS> I wonder what jayne is upset about
[20:33] <ChosenOne> dajhorn: oh, thanks :( too bad. disabling ipv6 wouldnt work for me, because i *want* ipv6 ;)
[20:34] <eshannon> I use VLC and Movie Player
[20:34] <coz_> eshannon, ok hold on
[20:34] <ChosenOne> ZykoticK9: sorry, you're completely right :)
[20:34] <Nirkus> dajhorn: for my NTFS partitions, my user is able to mount them, but my girlfriends account is required to give my accounts pw
[20:34] <Vagrant_> Please help. You guys and ubuntu forums are ignoring me. Using the default "Keyboard Shortcuts" GUI in Ubuntu 10.04 I want to make it so that when I press Ctrl+Q it outputs Alt+Home. Does anyone know how to do this?
[20:34] <mickster04> Vagrant_: i dont think thats possible using the GUI
[20:34] <SOS> can someone tell me how to md5checksum my ubuntu cd with the windows version? jrib told me to do it like it was possible, but all I see this utility is capable of is files, not drives
[20:34] <Shogoot> Anyone know of a downloadmanager that will work on ubuntu with Chrome?
[20:34] <Muelli> Vagrant_: xmodmap
[20:35] <Nirkus> mbroeker: dajhorn it's a primary partition on a AHCI SATA drive
[20:35] <Muelli> Shogoot: wget
[20:35] <coz_> eshannon,  ok not sure how to set  totem and vlc for video I only use mplayer
[20:35] <benbloom> I'm curious, what's all that "you make the shameless look good" stuff about?
[20:35] <Pici> SOS: When you boot off the CD there should be an option there to verify the disk,
[20:35] <Muelli> SOS: md5sum will happily checksum a drive as well
[20:35] <pfifo> SOS, boot from the CD and select the option to verify the contents
[20:35] <Shogoot> Muelli, ill take a look, thanks
[20:35] <SOS> Pici: I can't boot off the cd. This is why I was told to md5checksum LOL
[20:35] <Hounddog> i don't know where to start somehow... is still showing "loading operating system..." since 10 minutes and not doing anything
[20:36] <ReadPlease> Did anybody get that Q I loaded up earlier about the kernel?
[20:36] <pfifo> SOS, md5sum on a CDROM is not possible without a 3rd party tool
[20:36] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Remember that you need to explicitly dismount an NTFS volume in Nautilus before you change user accounts, or the device will be unavailable for the second user.
[20:36] <eshannon> Thanks I will go check out my other computers that work and see what the difference is
[20:36] <ReadPlease> not sure which kernel to select --
[20:36] <Muelli> Hounddog: it's because it found a windows partition and is ashamed... Just messing. Are you trying to boot your regularly installed ubuntu off a hard drive?
[20:36] <ReadPlease> Jeeze, dude.  Every time I type something 5 people type.
[20:36] <Hounddog> Muelli yes, i just installed it fresh and that is a brand new system.
[20:36] <Muelli> SOS: bollocks. you can mdsum /dev/cdrom just fine.
[20:36] <ReadPlease> Must be bots.
[20:36] <ChogyDan> ReadPlease: just post your whole question, all in one line
[20:37] <ReadPlease> Which kernel do I pick?
[20:37] <mickster04> !who | ReadPlease:
[20:37] <pfifo> Muelli, windows dose not support the dev filesystem
[20:37] <__cool__> Muelli: not in windos
[20:37] <Muelli> Hounddog: hm. I'm sorry for you. Could you press Escape and see whether it prints anything?
[20:37] <ChogyDan> ReadPlease: the latest?
[20:37] <ReadPlease> Dude, sotp making more bots talk, mickster04!  Jeeze
[20:37] <Muelli> pfifo: oh, on windows. Sorry. I don't know anything about that
[20:37] <SOS> You know, I've gotten 3 seperate versions of ubuntu over the years, pressed CDs, and not a one has ever worked right.  I think the subset of hardware ubuntu actually works on without tons of issues is TINY
[20:37] <Hounddog> Muelli nothing
[20:37] <triplc> hi all
[20:37] <dajhorn> Nirkus: If you want more than one user to access an internal NTFS disk, then you almost certainly want an /etc/fstab entry.   Doing it any other way is too much unnecessary work.
[20:37] <ni|> hi, i have my monitors in portrait mode -- however it seems like the system is really slow on rendering -- like each line that comes in on my irssi window requires a full (visual) re render of the screen
[20:37] <acalbaza> where can i find glib2 package in the repo?
[20:37] <ReadPlease> ChogyDan, I'm on a virtual machine running a P4, and I'm trying to pick between virtual, generic, and 386
[20:37] <SOS> perhaps the devs should slow down and make quality releases
[20:37] <triplc> how to get wine1.3? the stable version, not betas on ppa?
[20:38] <ReadPlease> I don't think a p4 is a 386....
[20:38] <ReadPlease> But that's what I'm defaulting to.
[20:38] <pfifo> SOS, burn another copy, and use your recording to to verify burned contents after the session is done
[20:38] <ni|> this re-render is usual but it being visual is not
[20:38] <Hounddog> i heard of slow starting operating systems but this beats everything lol... just kidding... nether had problems with linux/ubuntu otherwise
[20:38] <Muelli> Hounddog: hm. weird. Well. You can just retry by powercycling the machine. if that doesn't work, we can modify boot parameters, i.e. remove "splash" option.
[20:38] <ChogyDan> ReadPlease: I think just generic
[20:38]  * triplc using lucid
[20:38] <ni|> anyone running portrait mode?
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> eshannon, the solution to the blue video with nvidia is on this page http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[20:38] <ReadPlease> well what's 'virtual'?
[20:38] <mickster04> ReadPlease: i think yyou'll find this is a very busy channel, there aren't many bots apart from the flood team and ubottu so just chill out
[20:38] <dajhorn> ReadPlease: No,  a Pentium 4 is indeed an i386.  You need the -386, -generic, or -virtual kernel.
[20:38] <Muelli> acalbaza: apt-cache search glib
[20:38] <triplc> how to get wine1.3? the stable version, not betas on ppa? (i am using lucid)
[20:38] <__cool__> ni|: this is because most gfx drivers have *no* hardware acceleration in the 'turned' modes
[20:38] <Hounddog> Muelli but how, this comes directly after the hd check... i don't even think grub is loaded by then
[20:38] <Shogoot> Muelli, seems i alredy got wget on 10.4. how do i use it up against chrome?
[20:39] <Muelli> triplc: follow instructions on the Wine website as to how to build Wine.
[20:39] <Muelli> Shogoot: wget --continue $URL
[20:39] <Nirkus> dajhorn: i just need one user to be able to mount that NTFS drive at any time
[20:39] <Vagrant_>  Muelli: can you walk me through doing it?
[20:39] <dajhorn> ReadPlease: The -virtual kernel is optimized for things like VMware and Xen.  It has fewer drivers for real hardware and is packaged as a subset variant of the regular kernel.
[20:39] <ReadPlease> I thought it was a 686.
[20:39] <Hounddog> and i just reinstalled again as i thought there migt be something that went wrong during install
[20:39] <triplc> Muelli: ok, so build!
[20:39] <ChogyDan> triplc: the latest stable looks like 1.2
[20:39] <Nirkus> dajhorn: but i cant even mount it as the girlfriends user directly after booting
[20:39] <Muelli> Hounddog: that's weird.
[20:39] <dajhorn> Nirkus: The best solution for an internal disk is to leave it mounted all the time.  Rather, why does it need to be dismounted?
[20:39] <Coronade> I'm quite pleased with my IRC client, I've been idling here for 16+ hours and have had no bugs :)
[20:39] <__cool__> ni|: i have not tried, but in theory it could be faster when running compiz, then the 3d drivers could to the rotating... i only used the portrait modes for texting, where it didn't matter
[20:40] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Okay, you've confirmed what I suggested earlier.
[20:40] <Coronade> so.. who wants to buy my IRC client?
[20:40] <Coronade> it rules..
[20:40] <ni|> __cool__: i use it for programming
[20:40] <Muelli> Vagrant_: Probably not. I already forgot what you were asking.
[20:40] <ReadPlease> or... i mean 786
[20:40] <Nirkus> dajhorn: mh?
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> !ot | Coronade
[20:40] <mickster04> Coronade: naw, I hafev irssi yours is never gonna be better
[20:40] <SOS> my connection is far too slow to download the iso
[20:40] <ni|> __cool__: this isn't a built in card -- its an ATI running drm from KMS
[20:40] <SOS> ugh
[20:40] <SOS> this is why I got the cd in the first place
[20:40] <ReadPlease> So, because I am using a VM, I should use the -virtual kernel rather than the -generic kernel? :D
[20:40] <Nirkus> dajhorn: using fstab would be ok, but ill need to set user, group & permissions, wont i?
[20:41] <ReadPlease> That's what I suspected...
[20:41] <acalbaza> Muelli: thanks
[20:41] <pfifo> SOS, you have an official copy?
[20:41] <SOS> pfifo: yes
[20:41] <Muelli> ReadPlease: yep, virtual will do fine for you I geuss.
[20:41] <pfifo> SOS, did jrib know this?
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> ReadPlease, what virtualization software are you using?
[20:41] <SOS> pfifo: yes
[20:41] <ReadPlease> oracl vm virtualbox
[20:41] <SureKnee> hello, do you guys mind a newbie question on module installation?
[20:41] <pfifo> SOS: is it scratched?
[20:41] <Nirkus> dajhorn: i still dont get how Gnome decides, which user is allowed to mount it. both users are members of plugdev
[20:41] <SOS> pfifo: no
[20:41] <SureKnee> I got the wirelss driver working
[20:41] <Hounddog> hmmm ok there is one thing i can do
[20:42] <SureKnee> but I need to make each time I reboot
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> ReadPlease, then you can using any 32/64bit architecture you choose, you don't need a virt-kernel
[20:42] <SureKnee> is that normal?
[20:42] <Hounddog> if i insert a usb and press c it starts loading the usb
 Thanks for the link still have the blue tint
[20:42] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Yes.  Read the man page and give it an appropriate group= parameter.  NTFS doesn't store the user/group information that Ubuntu uses.
[20:42] <Shogoot> Muelli, nice actually its going way faster then the download via chrome. You know if it is pulling data from several locations?
[20:42] <Muelli> SureKnee: nope. you probably forget a "make instal".
[20:42] <dajhorn> Nirkus:  The way that you've got it now,  Nautilus is mounting it on-demand.
[20:42] <pfifo> SOS: the likelihood of it being corrupted is slim. Can you boot from other CDs?
[20:42] <Muelli> Shogoot: nope. IT doesn't.
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> eshannon, try again... it "should" really work.
[20:42] <ReadPlease> well, i mean someone already told me I could click any of them.  I'm trying to decide what's best for general usage...  for web servers
[20:42] <SureKnee> so I need the install argument when I run make?
[20:42] <Nirkus> dajhorn: yeah, but only for my user
[20:42] <SOS> pfifo: yes, and ubuntu does mostly boot. It just fails towards the end
[20:42] <Shogoot> Muelli, is it possible to do so with wget?
[20:43] <ReadPlease> local testing..., messing around.... Nothing fancy.  I don't know awgh
[20:43] <Muelli> SureKnee: probably. It might brick your installation though. You have been warned.
[20:43] <pfifo> SOS, what dose it do when it fails?
[20:43] <Muelli> Shogoot: probably not.
[20:43] <dajhorn> Nirkus:  No, based on what you've said, it is claimed by the first user that asks for it.
[20:43] <SOS> the error screen flashes by too fast to see what it says, but it says something about installation failing
[20:43] <ni|> __cool__: compiz is installed
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> eshannon, you might want to try logging out to verify that all gstreamer apps are closed properly
[20:43] <ReadPlease> Just when I was ready to pick the -virtual, I got steared away. :P
[20:43] <Nirkus> dajhorn: nope
[20:43] <pfifo> SOS, what version is that disk?
[20:43] <SureKnee> I'll take the risk, wish me luck :-)
[20:43] <SOS> pfifo: 10.04
[20:44] <cardamon> Nautilus has spoiled me.  I have some USB drives I need to get to.  How do I know where buntu's automounting them to?
[20:44] <ReadPlease> all these conflicting opinions.  Just after I installed debian, someone told me to install ubuntu, and visa versa.  ;;PP  It's all so wishy-washy.
[20:44] <craigbass1976> I've got an architect's pdf plan; how do I get it to print out to scale?
[20:44] <Nirkus> dajhorn: let me reboot and try directly afterwards
[20:44] <eshannon> Thanks be back in a bit going to restart
[20:44] <pfifo> SOS, can you work on installing linux and chat on IRC on a different computer?
[20:45] <SOS> pfifo: afraid not
[20:45] <aetaric> !info jailer
[20:45] <mickster04> craigbass1976: it should be to scale in the pdf, the printer will just print out what it gets...
[20:45] <__cool__> ni|: i've not tried portrait mode for a long time (except once, where it was *slow*)... but have you found and checed the links in the comments of 'anon' on http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/08/10/oh-great-lazyweb-of-video-cards-and-portrait-monitors-again/ ? maybe the answer is *not* using compiz and using xrand
[20:45] <__cool__> ni|: *xrandr*
[20:45] <craigbass1976> mickster04, wicked small; all I need is the kitchen, so I'm wondering if I can gimp at least that section to scale and print it out
[20:45] <Shogoot> Muelli, im downloading  a 3gig file, and ive done half already. you recon i can copy that half file to where the file is being downloaded by wget and it will resume the downloading correctly?
[20:45] <ni|> __cool__: ok
[20:45] <ReadPlease> I'll just try one more time....
[20:45] <ni|> __cool__: thx
[20:45] <ReadPlease> Which kernel should I pick: virtual, generic, or 386?
[20:45] <Muelli> Shogoot: if you do wget --continue, yes :-)
[20:45] <ChogyDan> ReadPlease: you can also just pick both, and see if one works better than the other.  The virtual kernel _might_ just lack allot of drivers, so it may not be a big difference performance wise
[20:46] <SOS> pfifo: It wasn't actually installing at the time. I was simply booting from the cd, and that gives me an installation error, I have no idea why
[20:46] <mickster04> craigbass1976: well you have to work out what scale it is atm... it should be written around the esge somewhere
[20:46] <Shogoot> Muelli, where does wget download to? :)
[20:46] <ReadPlease> Alright, choganum.  Thanks.
[20:46] <Muelli> Shogoot: to the directory you're in unless you tell it otherwise.
[20:46] <ReadPlease> Obviously, that's the only way I'll figure it out. LoL
[20:46] <cardamon> Shogoot: Where ever you want it to.  man wget to find the destination option
[20:46] <Shogoot> Muelli, great, thanks alot for the help.
[20:46] <craigbass1976> mickster04, it is, probably the architect shrunk it; I remember using really big paper in high school when I drew house plans
[20:47] <ReadPlease> But because having fewer drivers sounds like a good thing, we're starting with -virtual. :D
[20:48] <cardamon> Nautilus has spoiled me.  I have some USB drives I need to get to.  How do I know where buntu's automounting them to?
[20:48] <pfifo> SOS: when you boot that CD, it first shows a menu that lets you choose things like "try ubuntu without change" and "Install Ubuntu" dose it not (i havent burned a livecd since 8.10 so im not 100% sure of this anymore)
[20:48] <slops17> hey i am trying to set up vnc4server onmy ubuntu 10.4 box and have folled all the instructions i can find to comment out lines in .vnc/xstartup and i keep getting a grey screen
[20:48] <mickster04> craigbass1976: well...i have no idea then...
[20:48] <Monotoko> cardamon, ubuntu should mount to /media
[20:48] <Nirkus> cardamon: /media/$LABEL mostly
[20:48] <SOS> pfifo: I get no such option
[20:48] <Muelli> cardamon: well. USB drives have kind of an ID and I think it's udev that automounts it to /media/$ID, but I mihgt be mistaken
[20:49] <cardamon> Thanks.
[20:49] <cardamon> that's it.
[20:49] <mickster04> craigbass1976: no in short, you would have to work out how much its shrunk by and then scale it back again in gimp, which is possible, only you have to know how much
[20:49] <Muelli> cardamon: you can type "mount" to find out about mouted disks.
[20:49] <Muelli> slops17: well. if no applicatino is started then the screen remains rather boring, I'd say.
[20:49] <dajhorn> slops17: At a minimum, you need to call gnome-session in the vnc startup script so that the desktop environment ships.  The empy gray screen is the default X11 window.
[20:50] <slops17> this is my xstartup http://www.pastie.org/1132231
[20:50] <Nirkus> dajhorn: directly after bootup, Gnome still requires account B to input password of account A when trying to mount the device?
[20:51] <Schmorgluck> heh, imagine if somehow "umount" displayed a list of all existing disks that are NOT mounted on your system
[20:51] <pfifo> SOS, after it shows the error message what happens then
[20:51] <Nirkus> dajhorn: or did you mean, Nautilus has some sort of database where it stores some form of FS UUID to first user information?
[20:52] <dajhorn> slops17: You cut-and-pasted from a not-Ubuntu tutorial.   You need to change this script to do it The Ubuntu Way.  Mostly, replace everything with `gnome-session` and see if you get any further.
[20:53] <slops17> dajhorn, it works on 9.10 just not 10.4
[20:54] <mickster04> Schmorgluck: what would be the point in that?
[20:54] <Muelli> mickster04: to be feature compatible with windows ;-)
[20:54] <SureKnee> Muelli: make install worked! I shall never forget this. Thank you.
[20:54] <Schmorgluck> mickster04, that would be weird and tedious
[20:54] <Muelli> SureKnee: I'm glad I could help :-)
[20:55] <Muelli> SureKnee: next time buy proper hardware though!
[20:55] <mickster04> Muelli: lol i like
[20:55] <imanc> taffflash: oi oi oi
[20:55] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Yes, but you would have needed to explicitly enabled it sometime earlier.
[20:55] <SureKnee> Muelli: not as glad as I am! U>Google
[20:55] <Nirkus> dajhorn: mhhh
[20:56] <dajhorn> Nirkus: You comment regarding the password makes me think that your passwd and groups files are borked.  Did you ever manually edit those files without using the `vipw` command?
[20:56] <Muelli> SureKnee: *blush* So enjoy your free operating system now :-) and tell your friends and family that free software rocks. And keep supporting the people in here :)
[20:56] <Nirkus> dajhorn: so, ill get busy on my fstab. at least there i have one man page to read instead of some mambo jumbo services doing magic
[20:56] <Nirkus> dajhorn: sure, i did
[20:56] <Nirkus> vipw is like visudo for passwd and group?
[20:57] <dajhorn> Nirkus:  Yes.
[20:57] <SureKnee> Meulli: This is a machine I'm setting up for a friend. I've already spread Ubuntu to 3 people and counting!
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> eshannon i'm SO sorry the link/directions i sent wasn't what i thought it was, sorry.  Open "gstreamer-properties" from a terminal and in the Video tab, for Default Output Pluin: select "X Windows System (No Xv)", i'd get rid of that "videobalance hue=-1 ! autovideosink" that the page recommended. [looks like you might not be returning to sending to channel :( ]
[20:57] <Crankygeek01> I am looking to setup some sort of remote access to my system, I need to have the ability to remotely reboot and still be able to grab a desktop session after it reboots....any ideas?
[20:57] <dajhorn> Nirkus: You probably want a gid= parameter in the fstab, not a group= parameter like I suggested earlier.
[20:57] <Muelli> Crankygeek01: openssh-server and GNOME. Maybe FreeNX
[20:58] <jayne> note that jayne != jayyne, to all those who nick-highlighted me earlier
[20:58] <xektrum> hello
[20:58] <mickster04> sorry jayne :P
[20:58] <Nirkus> dajhorn: tried vipw, vipw -s. vigr, vigr -s .. none of them did mention any errors
[20:59] <xektrum> somebody knows which driver can I use with an old ati rage XL
[20:59] <xektrum> ?
[20:59] <xektrum> and how do I enable it?
[20:59] <mickster04> xektrum: what ubuntu? does it not tell you to install proprieteery drivers?
[20:59] <Muelli> xektrum: you probably don't need to do anything. Just boot and use.
[20:59] <xektrum> ubuntu server
[20:59] <xektrum> 32 bits
[20:59] <Crankygeek01> Muelli: Do you know if there is a way to setup VNC to run in the backgroup somehow, so that when I log in it'll give me the normal login prompt to choose my user?
[21:00] <mickster04> xektrum: you dont need a special driver
[21:00] <xektrum> when I do lshw -C display it says its unclaimed
[21:00] <mickster04> xektrum: it only uses text
[21:00] <Muelli> Crankygeek01: well. GNOME ships a VNC server called Vino. Other than that: I don't konw.
[21:00] <mickster04> xektrum: it shouldn't matter? your not running Graphical programs on it?
[21:00] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Okay, you may be on the cusp of learning how to fix a munged fuse/gvfs configuration.  :P
[21:00] <xektrum> mickster04, yeah the clean install does but I had installed gnome
[21:01] <mickster04> xektrum: and it doesn't work?
[21:01] <xektrum> yeah but like ***
[21:01] <xektrum> ****
[21:01] <Crankygeek01> Muelli: Yes, the only issue that I see with that is that it doesn't autostart, and you need to be logged into the desktop to share it....so if I reboot, that's it, no more remoting to the desktop
[21:01] <mickster04> xektrum: dont
[21:01] <xektrum> slow as hell
[21:01] <mickster04> xektrum: why bother doing it that way round, just install ubuntu and install the server stuff after?
[21:01] <Muelli> Crankygeek01: you could make GDM log you in automatically.
[21:02] <Nirkus> dajhorn: bummer :)
[21:02] <xektrum> mickster thats an option indeed but I would like to learn how to do this
[21:02] <Muelli> Crankygeek01: or set up VNC or set up NoMachineNX or it's free alternative.
[21:02] <Crankygeek01> Muelli: The box is sitting in plain view and I wouldn't want to leave it logged in
[21:02] <Muelli> xektrum: the thing is, that there is not that much to do. Install and use...
[21:02] <mickster04> xektrum: well thats how you do it if you want a GUI, if you wanna Learn this, then do it without the GUI
[21:03] <SOS> is there a way I can pause the error screen that flashes to my screen when ubuntu fails boot off the cd and gives me an error, so I can actually read it?
[21:03] <Muelli> Crankygeek01: you could automaticaly lock the screen once you're logged in.
[21:03] <Muelli> SOS: yes. You have a Pause key on your keyboard that should do the trick
[21:03] <xektrum> mickster04,  so theres no way to load a driver for the display after the installation is done?
[21:04] <SOS> Muelli: How intuitive ;) I thought i tried that, however
[21:04] <slops17> dajhorn, do you have a tut i should follow
[21:05] <dajhorn> slops17: Did you try what I suggested?
[21:05] <mickster04> xektrum: yes, and no, its very hard when you might as well install ubuntu and do it that way round. if you can live without a GUI and do it "properly" without it. eitherway you don't do it the way you're doing it ccos its unneccessarily difficult to get right
[21:06] <slops17> dajhorn, yes and still get the same result
[21:06] <Overand> Is there a "right" way to add a new software-RAID device to ubuntu (server, but it's the same) 10.04 - not a fresh install.
[21:06] <Overand> i.e. I read that the installer uses udev rather than mdadm - and i know *nothing* about this, and wasn't able to really track it down via docs.  I've always used an mdadm.conf type setup
[21:07] <coz_> Overand,  not sure here but I think there is an #ubuntu-server  channel
[21:07] <mickster04> xektrum: yes you could do it that way. and if you suddenly needed a GUI on a long term server you would need to do it that way, but seeing as yours is fresh, i really wouldn't bother
[21:07] <csgeek> is Choqok broken under lucid?
[21:07] <dajhorn> slops17: Look in /usr/share/doc for the sample configuration file.  Start from scratch.
[21:07] <slops17> ok
[21:08] <dajhorn> slops17: Double check that you have the ubuntu-desktop meta package installed.  VNC needs everything that a regular desktop uses.
[21:08] <xektrum> mickster04, and theres no malpraxis in using ubuntu desktop as a LAMP server
[21:08] <xektrum> ?
[21:08] <mickster04> xektrum: when i said long term i meant long astanding
[21:08] <hiexpo> has anyone else had a problem logging into twitter with pidgin
[21:08] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: theres some issue at the moment, it seems
[21:09] <mickster04> xektrum: any problem using the desktop edition is the same when you install a GUI yourself...
[21:09] <hiexpo> sebsebseb, ok i fixed it mine anyways
[21:09] <mickster04> xektrum: what were you thinking of malpraxis...
[21:09] <SOS> Muelli: Is there a way to make it show me everthing that's going on in the background instead of that pretty install screen? So that I can make more sense of what's going wrong?
[21:09] <slops17> dajhorn, it needs some packages
[21:09] <slops17> ill install them now and let you know
[21:09] <mickster04> xektrum: if you're serious about setting up a server dont use a GUI
[21:09] <xektrum> mickster04, dont know, security issues maybe
[21:09] <jangell> whats up with the weird config file layout of amavisd-new in ubuntu/debian compared to teh standard practice of just having an /etc/amavisd.conf file?
[21:09] <DJones> hiexpo: Twitter have changed to a OAuth instead of plain login so looks like the app's are playing catch up at the minute
[21:09] <Muelli> SOS: not really knowing what you're talking about, but Ctrl+Alt+F1 might drop you to a more verbose console.
[21:10] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: or maybe I am thinking Gwibber
[21:10] <slops17> dajhorn, i had removed openoffice
[21:10] <hiexpo> no it is a login prob / authenication problem but i found the fix for it
[21:10] <xektrum> ok so the thing is, if I want GUI go for desktop, if dont stay with server ?
[21:11] <dajhorn> jangell: The .d configuration breakout makes it easier for dependent packages to change the configuration.
[21:11] <mickster04> xektrum: yeah, if you're setting up a server for anything other than personal use you really want to concider not having a GUI
[21:12] <jangell> dajhorn: I'm trying ot move from centos to ubuntu and have a amavisd.conf file that is pretty well setup for exactly what we need.  trying to figure out what to do...
[21:13] <dajhorn> jangell: You can get the current configuration by running `cat * | less`.   You can add your site-specific stuff to a new XX-stub, or you can delete everything and try your luck with the old conf file.
[21:14] <jangell> dajhorn: is everything in that directly loaded?
[21:15] <dajhorn> jangell: Yes.   If you want to read more about this configuration style, then look at the 'run-parts' documentation.
[21:16] <dajhorn> jangell: Use the 50-user file if at all possible.  This will ensure easy upgrades.
[21:16] <slops17> dajhorn, that didnt fix it maybe i need to reboot
[21:16] <dajhorn> slops17: No, if OpenOffice was the only thing missing, then you have another problem.
[21:17] <slops17> dajhorn, i just rebooted ill test it when it comes back up
[21:18] <slops17> dajhorn, yeah that didnt fix it
[21:19] <ShadarLogoth> Hey, I'm trying to install unbutu 10.04 on a dell r510 with an H700 raid controller with 13 drives attached, 11 2TB drives in raid 5, and 2 150 gb drives in raid 1, when I install it sees everything and installs fine, but it hangs on boot, how can i fix that?
[21:19] <deploy> Any runaway process catcher for gnome? Something keeps going mental and locking up the thing entirely.
[21:19] <lap_dragon> where can I get different gui themes?
[21:19] <dajhorn> slops17: If the sample configuration file doesn't work, then you should check your system for sanity.  Try VNC through System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop.
[21:20] <xangua> lap_dragon: http://gnome-look.org/
[21:20] <lap_dragon> ok
[21:20] <slops17> dajhorn, right now the box is headless so i can only get to it via ssh
[21:21] <dajhorn> slops17: Doesn't matter.  Shell into the computer with `ssh -X` and run `vino-preferences`.
[21:21] <meltingwax> can anyone provide me with a command to enable sudo access for a user?
[21:21] <dajhorn> meltingwax: Add the user to the 'adm' and/or 'sudo' groups.
[21:22] <clone1018> lol I like that way you said that deploy
[21:23] <mickster04> meltingwax: vsudo -e i think
[21:23] <mickster04> !vsudo
[21:23] <deploy> clone1018: Its very annoying. See no pattern, other than me getting angry and having to hard reset.
[21:23] <mickster04> !visudo
[21:23] <Somethingelse> Help with: Use "path/to/executable/tiler -v" to tile windows vertically or "path/to/executable/tiler -h" to tile windows horizontally in commands of compiz. [Refer the first link in my signature]
[21:24] <meltingwax> dajhorn, mickster04 : got it, thanks!
[21:24] <mickster04> meltingwax: very good
[21:24] <clone1018> Sorry I have no clue deploy. I've had something like that happen before. I just uninstalled gdm and reinstalled
[21:25] <Nirkus> dajhorn: do you know, whether its possible to read NTFS filesystem UUIDs and mount by them in /etc/fstab?
[21:26] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Run `blkid` on the device node, and use it as the UUID= parameter in the fstab.
[21:26] <istevenmon> hi anyone here from japan maybe?
[21:27] <guntbert> deploy: since system monitor itself creates rather a big load itself you could try to let htop running in a terminal to see which process it is
[21:27] <mickster04> !jp
[21:28] <Nirkus> dajhorn: thanks a lot :)
[21:28] <dajhorn> Nirkus: For example, if your NTFS system is currently in the /etc/fstab file as /dev/sdb2, then you can directly replace that column with the output of `blkid /dev/sdb2`.
[21:28] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Np.
[21:28] <ShadarLogoth> is there a maximum raid size that ubuntu supports and if so does anyone know what it is?
[21:28] <mickster04> !raid
[21:29] <NoiseEee> Anyone manage to get Plesk running on 10.04?
[21:30] <Nirkus> dajhorn: you know by any chance the criteria on which GDM decides whether to list users or not?
[21:31] <Nirkus> dajhorn: after deploying LDAP, all our users disappeared from the login screen and have to type in their account name manually
[21:31] <d3vdil> hello how can i install ubuntu with windows in the same pc ?
[21:31] <dajhorn> Nirkus: No, but it is buried in the man page somewhere.
[21:32] <mickster04> !dualboot | d3vdil
[21:32] <coz_> d3vdil,   is this windows 7?
[21:32] <d3vdil> yeah
[21:32] <Nirkus> dajhorn: maybe i did lack of patience :)
[21:32] <dajhorn> Nirkus: If you're using something like windbind or the ldap pam module, then you must explicitly enable the getpwenum in the pam.d for things like GDM to behave sanely.
[21:32] <coz_> d3vdil,   ok  well  I like to defrag windows before doing this however,,, just stick in the live cd  and when it gets to the partitioning manager  you want to install side by side with windows
[21:33] <dajhorn> Nirkus: By default, LDAP and winbind don't enumerate because large user databases can take a long time to return.
[21:33] <coz_> d3vdil,  there will be a slider  to pull back and forth to adjust the size of the ubuntu install partition
[21:33] <Nirkus> dajhorn: ah, thats a great tip
[21:34] <d3vdil> coz_, ok i will start by defragmentation, thanks a lot
[21:34] <coz_> d3vdil,  no problem
[21:36] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Run `getent passwd` and `getent group` as the root user.  Any user missing from that output is unlikely to appear in various gnome lists.
[21:36] <Nirkus> dajhorn: i guess, that will be the nss module, wont it?
[21:37] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Yes, nsswitch is the right place to do it, unless you're feeling masochistic.
[21:37] <Nirkus> dajhorn: they are all in getent passwd
[21:38] <Nirkus> dajhorn: if they hadnt been, i would have turned it all upside down on PAM/NSS level already
[21:38] <private_meta> What's the File Explorer in Ubuntu called? I need to start it via x forwarding
[21:38] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Heh.  Then the man pages for you.
[21:38] <private_meta> Nautilus starts the whole manager, doesn't work well
[21:38] <Nirkus> dajhorn: libnss-ldapd does not provide any man page :)
[21:39] <Nirkus> dajhorn: and nothing useful in /usr/share/doc, either
[21:39] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Well, you are wandering into guru land.
[21:41] <Nirkus> dajhorn: well, im not a guru, but im LPIC-2 and pretty experienced with LDAP at least ;)
[21:41] <amadews> hy i am new whit linux  my ask is>ther is a program theat can se the stucture of the hdd  to se the bad sectors or errors ?
[21:41] <dajhorn> Nirkus: There is at least one bug report saying that GDM has an enumeration override.  People likely complain when their 10,000 object ActiveDirectory tree causes gnome to snooze.
[21:42] <pfifo> amadews, 'badblocks' is the program you want
[21:42] <Nirkus> dajhorn: ah, so its GDM i should be looking at for that override.
[21:43] <Muelli> amadews: you mihgt find palimpset interesting
[21:43] <luist> how do i display license of a deb package in ubuntu?
[21:43] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Commentary in bug 590813 says that an LDAP user must login at least once to appear in the GDM list.
[21:44] <Muelli> luist: probably apt-cache show
[21:44] <turt1e> amadews,   do a man on badblocks
[21:44] <amadews> okk i will try  hope i can manage
[21:45] <Nirkus> dajhorn: well i logged in about 100 times since deploying LDAP and still there is only the one local non-system account in the greeter
[21:45] <HB2> hi, somebody know a good system equalizer audio ??
[21:46] <luist> Muelli: that displays many stuff but not license
[21:46] <Muelli> luist: very weird.
[21:46] <salah> Hi. I got an new network card which should have given me better signals. I get my neighbors wireless (50 meters away) with 100/100 signals. But mine wireless connection goes in max. 2000 kb/s. All other computer works well. Any ideas?
[21:46] <Nirkus> dajhorn: im still suspecting it does some voodoo enumeration craft on its own w/o NSS
[21:48] <askhader> How do I issue a command to a specific x display?
[21:48] <ectospasm> askhader: what do you mean?
[21:48] <askhader> say I want to use feh to set the wallpaper over ssh
[21:48] <askhader> or from cron
[21:48] <Kyle__> Has anyone here installed ubuntu on a mac via bootcamp?
[21:48] <askhader> How do I stipulate which x session I want to issue the command to?
[21:49] <Muelli> askhader: set DISPLAY environment variable
[21:49] <ectospasm> askhader: if feh has an option for setting the X display, you can pass :0.0 or whatever to it
[21:49] <Muelli> askhader: i.e. DISPLAY=:0 set-new-wallpaper.sh
[21:49] <pfifo> askhader, like this "DISPLAY 0:0 fed mypic.jpg"
[21:49] <ShadarLogoth> anyone recommend a file system on ubuntu for partitions over 16TB?
[21:49] <askhader> Thanks
[21:49] <mickster04> ShadarLogoth: ext4? whatelse
[21:49] <ectospasm> ShadarLogoth: I think ext4 can do that
[21:49] <Muelli> ShadarLogoth: probably anything except FAT or NTFS :>
[21:50] <Nirkus> dajhorn: it could also base its decision on the shadow information/ password hash
[21:50] <Kyle__> ShadarLogoth: Over 100GB even, I would only reccomend XFS or JFS.
[21:50] <Kyle__> ShadarLogoth: Ext3 (and presumably 4 as well) is perfectly stable at those sizes, but is less than optimal.
[21:50] <ShadarLogoth> mkfs.ext4 errors out over 16TB with 4k blocks
[21:50] <ectospasm> Kyle__: I thought XFS and JFS were rather spotty?
[21:50] <mickster04> Muelli: why not htfs?
[21:50] <mickster04> Muelli: ntfs* oh wait TB?!
[21:50] <Muelli> mickster04: *shrug* don't know about that.
[21:50] <ReadPlease> Whichever duchebag gold me -virtual would be okay: thanks.  Now, I get to reformat.
[21:51] <Kyle__> ectospasm: Not at all.  They are head and shoulders ahead of ext3, and still quite a bit ahead of ext4 IMO.
[21:51] <Muelli> ReadPlease: so you're not bored :-)
[21:51] <twobitsprite> ping?
[21:51] <ectospasm> Kyle__: what are you basing that analysis on?
[21:51] <mickster04> !pong
[21:51] <FoolishOwl> I'm trying to configure Enigmail, for Thunderbird. I'd like PGP signatures to be attachments, rather than inline text. Anyone know how to configure that?
[21:51] <ShadarLogoth> so if I want to use ext4 what do i use to make the file system since mkfs.ext4 doesn't work, or how would i make it work?
[21:51] <wickedSA> xfs deals with large files pretty well IME
[21:52] <pfifo> ubottu, why do you know about pong? is someone playing a joke?
[21:52] <Muelli> ShadarLogoth: how do you know "it doesn't work">
[21:52] <Kyle__> ectospasm: close to 10 years of using them at home and at work, dozens of articles, technical journals, etc.
[21:52] <ShadarLogoth> because it didn't work i just tried it.
[21:52] <ectospasm> Kyle__: that didn't answer my question, but whatever
[21:52] <Muelli> epic.. "it didn't work because it didn't work"...
[21:53] <pfifo> !work
[21:53] <Kyle__> ShadarLogoth: Try using LVM.  pvcreate /dev/[whatever disc or parition your using], then create a volume group, then a logical volume the size you need.
[21:53] <SuperMiguel> how do i install bastard in ubuntu??
[21:53] <Muelli> SuperMiguel: search it in software centre.
[21:53] <mickster04> SuperMiguel: link?
[21:53] <Kyle__> ShadarLogoth: that generally works better than traditional partition tables for really big discs/partitions.
[21:53] <guntbert> !askthebot | pfifo
[21:54] <azjo> what are the main differences between ext2 and ext4? pendrivelinux installed ext2 and ext4.wiki.com says theres hardly any difference o_O
[21:54] <SuperMiguel> Muelli, its not there
[21:54] <Muelli> !details | SuperMiguel
[21:54] <Coronade> Guess what time it is??
[21:54] <mickster04> Coronade: party time?
[21:55] <Muelli> Coronade: it's definitely beer o'clock in here
[21:55] <Coronade> Time to burn that Ubuntu CD
[21:55] <Kyle__> ectospasm: In a nutshell, JFS and XFS have been used in production for decades.  They are B-Tree (or B+ tree) based, and in both real-world and lab testing, they both perform better on small files, large files, and many files than ext3.
[21:55] <ectospasm> azjo: journaling, for one
[21:55] <Coronade> i'll keep you posted
[21:55] <mickster04> Coronade: YAY!
[21:55] <mickster04> !time
[21:55] <pfifo> 8:55 PM
[21:55] <azjo> it journals what?
[21:55] <FoolishOwl> azjo, ext3 includes journaling, which facilitates rolling back pending filesystem changes in the event of a system crash or the like. ext4 is supposed to have performance improvements over ext3.
[21:55] <azjo> ahhh
[21:56] <ectospasm> Kyle__: yeah, but I always read the Linux implementations weren't as good as on other OSes
[21:56] <ectospasm> Kyle__: I don't know, that's why I was asking
[21:56] <azjo> so not exactly a good thing to use on a usb drive.
[21:56] <azjo> ext2 updates read access times right? i read that was a big issue and it was disabled at sometime..
[21:57] <ectospasm> azjo: that's controlled by the atime option for mount and /etc/fstab
[21:57] <mickster04> azjo: you want ntfs for usb pens IMO
[21:57] <amadews> Muelli, if i give this comand is good to not  erase my system an data >badblocks -n -v
[21:57] <azjo> ntfs with linux is possible?
[21:58] <ectospasm> azjo: yes, full ntfs support has been available for some time now
[21:58] <Ken8521> is there a VNC support channel?
[21:58] <azjo> either way, pendrivelinux did not give me any option regarding filesystem
[21:58] <mickster04> azjo: yeah although its probably better to format in windows, but ubuntu can use it
[21:58] <KingYaba> What is the name of the Ubuntu off topic channel?
[21:58] <Muelli> !ot | KingYaba
[21:58] <azjo> ah, i suppose i could choose to not format
[21:58] <KingYaba> thankyou
[21:58] <azjo> so what are the benefits of NTFS vs extX ?
[21:58] <ectospasm> azjo: none (-;
[21:59] <azjo> well, on USB i mean
[21:59] <ectospasm> azjo: none, except WinXYZ can't read ext?
[21:59] <mickster04> azjo: ntfs works with windows
[21:59] <aeon-ltd> azjo: windows can mount it natively? i'm not really sure of other pro's
[21:59] <azjo> not sure why i would want that?
[21:59] <guntbert> azjo: file system preferences are not really on topic here
[22:00] <ectospasm> guntbert: they are support related, though
[22:00] <azjo> ah alright, i got my answers basically, anyway :P
[22:00] <azjo> trying to understand ext ;p
[22:00] <pfifo> azjo, there are ext2 drivers for windows, so really there is no advantage over eachother, the only advantage is VS fat32 which cant handle files over 4GB
[22:00] <guntbert> ectospasm: this channel is for ubuntu support, not for talking about ubuntu related things
[22:00] <azjo> ahh
[22:01] <azjo> well im using ext2 now so its all good ;)
[22:01] <ectospasm> guntbert: he was asking which filesystem to use, that's not a support question?
[22:01] <pfifo> azjo, it really comes down to which os will be working with the partition more, format for that OS
[22:01] <ectospasm> pfifo: also, NTFS/VFAT can't handle/don't store UNIX file permissions
[22:01] <guntbert> ectospasm: ack, but the discussion was getting long :-)
[22:02] <amadews> :(( seams thea i cant use badblocks :(
[22:02] <pfifo> azjo, ectospasm is right is security is a concern throw all of what i said out the window and do some research
[22:02] <turt1e> amadews,  why is that?
[22:03] <amadews> because the system is runing
[22:03] <pfifo> amadews, thats the kind of program you run overnight
[22:03] <dschuett> anybody use mdadm in 10.04?
[22:04] <amadews> :(
[22:04] <turt1e> amadews,  yeah... you really shouldn't run it on a mounted filesystem.  also you may want to look into possibly running e2fsck -c  I remember badblocks saying something about not running it directly
[22:05] <amadews> i cant stop the system because i have a web page
[22:07] <azjo> amadews: take it down at a time where it is rarely accessed, so supposedly overnight, or make a quick copy to another drive and go on with that
[22:08] <azjo> amadews: even doing such a huge task as scanning the whole drive, can potentially kill it, so the first you should do, is take a copy, or make an image
[22:08] <pfifo> amadews, wait until the harddrive forces you offline and then run badblocks >:D
[22:08] <ectospasm> amadews: the scheduling of maintenance windows on production machines is always a challenge
[22:08] <amadews> cant make a copy because i use lvm
[22:08] <azjo> lvm?
[22:08] <ectospasm> azjo: Logical Volume Manager
[22:08] <amadews> :)
[22:08] <azjo> ah
[22:08] <pfifo> amadews, why not just replace your harddrive?
[22:09] <amadews> dint have cost to mach
[22:10] <amadews> bunt if i shotdown the system and use a live cd i think theat wil be posible?
[22:10] <azjo> amadews: yes it will
[22:11] <pfifo> amadews, you can cline your packages on the livecd and copy your webroot to a temp directory and then do maintenance
[22:11] <pfifo> clone*
[22:11] <david-w> dngr: ping
[22:12] <Nirkus> dajhorn: bug 590813 in which tracker?
[22:12] <david-w> any other ops about
[22:12] <tedbundy> hi all, anyone know much about auto syncing ipods in 10.04?
[22:13] <ratdog> hi, i open "vuze" an then it closes right away...
[22:13] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Debian.
[22:13] <amadews> hmmm i made a read test and the  acces time is 8ms seams theat  is not the hhd plb  i think is the ram
[22:13] <Nirkus> ah
[22:13] <iCEAGE> Is there anybody paste the content of its ~/.bashrc from ubuntu 10.04 in the pasebin?
[22:14] <coz_> iCEAGE,  you need that ?
[22:14] <pfifo> iceage, im on livecd atm, http://pastebin.com/51MCv8tp
[22:14] <dajhorn> Nirkus: That is a typo.  :P
[22:14] <iCEAGE> coz_, yeah, if you don't mind
[22:14] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Just ask the Truth Machine about "gdm ldap".
[22:15] <coz_> iCEAGE,   ok here   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/bash   the only change i made was so the prompt just says "password"
[22:15] <ratdog> hi, i open "vuze" an then the program window closes right away...
[22:16] <Shiba> tedbundy: I think there is n such thing.  iPod devices require special software written by Apple to sync.
[22:16] <Nirkus> dajhorn: truth machine?
[22:16] <amadews> iCEAGE, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/pQQM8yYm
[22:16] <dajhorn> Nirkus: Google.
[22:16] <pfifo> ratdog, try running it from the command line to see if it gives any useful messages
[22:16] <Nirkus> dajhorn: ah got it
[22:16] <Nirkus> hehe
[22:16] <imanc> Taffflash: yo!
[22:16] <iCEAGE> pfifo, coz_ , amadews thanks fellows
[22:16] <ratdog> pfifo how i do that
[22:17] <Taffflash> imanc: YO
[22:17] <coz_> iCEAGE,  no problem  as I said when terminal asks for your user password  it will now only say  "password"
[22:17] <tedbundy> Shiba: that's shit! thanks anyway. any recommendations other than running itunes in a win vm?
[22:17] <pfifo> ratdog, well since its a javaapp, i have no idea, i would try just typing vuze and see what happens
[22:17] <iCEAGE> coz_, That's ok
[22:18] <coz_> tedbundy,  I dont think so ... you may have to find a alternative applications similar to itunes  although I personally dont like itunes :)
[22:18] <Shiba> tedbundy: actually I just found this on Google to my surprise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[22:19] <Shiba> tedbundy: it seems that things have improved significantly since last time I checked
[22:19] <mo_bledhoz> ping
[22:19] <guntbert> !language | tedbundy
[22:19] <coz_> tedbundy,    http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/08/10-alternatives-to-itunes-for-managing-your-ipod/
[22:20] <tedbundy> Shiba: i'd heard those of those packages in my searches but unfortunately they seem to get bad reviews... rhythmbox is good but just lacks autosyncing
[22:20] <amadews> tedbundy, you can use gtkpod
[22:20] <tedbundy> guntbert: sorry
[22:21] <coz_> tedbundy,  also the fact that itunes doesnt work on linux is apples doing... easily ported over if they wanted to
[22:21] <tedbundy> so gtkpod seems to be coming out an overall winner then yeah?
[22:21] <tedbundy> coz_: yeah i figured that, cheers apple!
[22:22] <jouyt_> hello i cant use ubuntu one
[22:22] <tedbundy> thanks all, i'll try out gtkpod.
[22:22] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: #ubuntuone
[22:22] <sebsebseb> !details | jouyt_
[22:22] <sebsebseb> !one
[22:23] <Kyle__> Anyone?  Anyone?  Mac Mini
[22:23] <jouyt_> im going there
[22:23] <Kyle__> +ubuntu?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: ok
[22:23] <hiexpo> hello all
[22:23] <ShadarLogoth> thanks to whoever suggested xfs for large file systems that worked great.
[22:23] <tracy69> anyone tried to upgrade compiz in ubuntu lucid from 0.8.4 to 0.9.0 ? is it possible ?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: Dropbox is a rather popular alternative, by the way
[22:24] <guntbert> !hi | hiexpo
[22:24] <jouyt_> I know sebsebseb but ubuntu one is included with ubutuu
[22:24] <qwebirc97065> السلام عليكم
[22:25] <hiexpo> guntbert,  >
[22:25] <guntbert> hiexpo:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:25] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: doesn't mean you have to use it :)
[22:25] <pfifo> qwebirc97065, american or english only
[22:25] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: personally  I woudn't boether with the cloud, since extenral hard disk for example
[22:25] <qwebirc97065> hallo
[22:25] <hiexpo> nope just here to help when i can
[22:26] <Monotoko> pfifo, aren;t they essentially the same?
[22:26] <CkhiKuzad> is there a youtube download program that actually works with the 'new' youtube
[22:26] <trappist> what writes new ip addresses to /etc/hosts.deny?  my ip keeps showing up there.  or, how can I disable tcpwrapper
[22:26] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: external hard disk
[22:26] <jouyt_> sebsebseb: i know but thats not good for 4 computers
[22:26] <azjo> ShadarLogoth: you may want to read: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=80065
[22:26] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: ok well good luck with Ubuntu One, then
[22:27] <sebsebseb> jouyt_: I guess
[22:27] <qwebirc97065> i have install windows xp and ubuntu and i conect to the internet by wirless
[22:27] <jouyt_> so anyone knows how to add a computer to an ubuntu one account¿?
[22:28] <qwebirc97065> the proplem is that i can not conect to wireless in ubuntu
[22:28] <ShadarLogoth> azjo: well I can't find a way to make mkfs.ext4 to run on a partition > 16TB, and google only says "that's a high priority to get working" which isn't really encouraging.
[22:28] <jouyt_> well im leaving... bye!
[22:28] <Muelli> ShadarLogoth: well. then ext4 might not support >16TB just yet.
[22:28] <azjo> you got over 16tb?!
[22:28] <ShadarLogoth> 22TB...
[22:29] <amadews> what 22t wow
[22:29] <CkhiKuzad> O.O
[22:29] <CkhiKuzad> jebus.
[22:29] <ShadarLogoth> I could split it, but the smaller partition would be annoying to work with for my application, which isn't so much IO performance driven as it is just about having a lot of space
[22:29] <azjo> geez :P not our fault you timetravelled a few years to the future :P
[22:29] <wickedSA> zfs if you're brave ;)
[22:30] <azjo> well as long as you know the issues with xfs and can deal with it then.. but the speed of ext4 may be a good reason to split up?
[22:30] <ShadarLogoth> azjo: yeah, well i have high turnover so I guess if it gets to be a problem I'll split it up, guess I'll see going forward.
[22:31] <CkhiKuzad> is there a working youtube downloader that works with the new video system on youtube?
[22:31] <Knux_> Huh.
[22:33] <tyranos> CkhiKuzad: if you know your way around the command line look for  get_flash_videos
[22:34] <turt1e> qwebirc97065, if you run dmesg do you see any errors for wireless? do you know if ubuntu has even detected your wireless device properly?
[22:35] <pfifo> turt1e, dmesg seems to be obsolete with 10.04
[22:35] <turt1e> pfifo,  still works fine for me.
[22:36] <WhatEva2> hi, I'm having trouble getting my xbmc-live (ubuntu 9.10) to connect via a PPTP VPN, can anyone help pls?
[22:36] <turt1e> pfifo, or has it been superseded by something else?
[22:36] <boodroscotch> hey guys, can you remove the native xorg ATi drivers after installing FGLRX? Thanks in advance.
[22:36] <Oer> !info cron.d
[22:37] <pfifo> turt1e, when i run it it skips major portions of things that should be displayed
[22:37] <voidmage> hey what do i need to do to make gwibber work after the twitter oauthpocalypse?
[22:38] <turt1e> pfifo, can you give me an example so I can check mine and see if the same is missing?
[22:38] <boodroscotch> Sorry, safely remove native xorg ATi drivers after installing fglrx?
[22:39] <pfifo> http://pastebin.com/GqEQdsRp
[22:39] <CkhiKuzad> is there a working youtube downloader that works with the new video system on youtube?
[22:40] <valbaca> voidmage, i have heard the daily ppa for gwibber fixes it (I'm looking for link now)
[22:40] <pfifo> turt1e, as you can see during the first 38 seconds of the boot process, it works as normal, but then it stops for 15 minutes, it seems like something else is doing waht dmseg is doing
[22:41] <pfifo> turt1e, im also noticing things like removing usb devices dont always show
[22:41] <valbaca> voidmage, http://bit.ly/aGOUfg
[22:42] <voidmage> thanks
[22:43] <turt1e> pfifo, that is strange.   I'm not noticing the same behavior on my system though.
[22:45] <turt1e> pfifo, just checked mine again by plugging in a thumb drive and it popped right up in dmesg.  Something is not right with yours
[22:46] <pfifo> turt1e, yeah, it is dmesg shows messages from the kernel so its hard to imagine that it could be replaced or turned off, but at this point im not relying on dmesg giving useful information. What has me troubled even more is that i beleive dbus uses dmesg to create nodes and do setup so im completly  baffeled at how linux is even running
[22:48] <pfifo> turt1e, im on the 10.04.1 livecd and have 9.10 installed, i was trying to troubleshoot some other users problems when i noticed this dmesg situation
[22:49] <syke> hi
[22:49] <pfifo> hey skye
[22:49] <syke> I have an Intel x58-based motherboard, and my Western Digital 10KRPM SATA drive is only being detected as UDMA/133
[22:50] <syke> I appear to have everything set correctly in the BIOS; how can I get the drive to operate in SATA mode with NCQ?
[22:50] <azjo> syke: what have u set it to in bios? IDE? AHCI?
[22:50] <clone1018> So I've tried googleing for the past 3 years. Does anyone know a fix for the ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 refresh rate problem with the output ports? Thanks
[22:50] <syke> azjo: it's set to always be RAID
[22:50] <RudyValencia> syke: check the drive's jumpers - maybe it's set to 1.5Gbit/sec mode?
[22:50] <turt1e> pfifo, can't remember for sure, but I thought I read that dmesg doesn't write all msgs to /var/log/dmesg .  is that what you pastebined was your /var/log/dmesg file?
[22:51] <guntbert> pfifo: dmesg is only a way to read the kernel log, it doesn't do anything else
[22:51] <RudyValencia> (some drives have a jumper that sets them to go slower than normal)
[22:51] <pfifo> turt1e, i ran thins 'sudo dmesg|pastebinit'
[22:51] <guntbert> pfifo: look into /var/log/syslog
[22:51] <pfifo> guntbert, why is 90% of the kernel log absent then?
[22:52] <guntbert> pfifo: that I don't know because it is your system, here this is not the case
[22:52] <pfifo> guntbert, syslog looks just fine
[22:53] <CT1> Hi.  I have 2 screens set up and everything is fine, except fullscreen flash videos.  They always play on my left screen.  I've set main screen as my right one in nvidia settings and restarted, everything works except for flash which AGAIN shows on my left screen in fullscreen.  Any ideas or a link?
[22:53] <pfifo> guntbert, actually no its not my system, my sestem works just fine. im on the 10.04.1 livecd
[22:54] <syke> rudyvalencia: there aren't any jumpers on the drive right now
[22:54] <guntbert> pfifo: ah yes - you said so - sorry no more ideas then :-)
[22:55] <pfifo> i know its like staying in a haunted house over night, just plain weird
[22:55] <RudyValencia> syke: Okay, that's odd...
[22:56] <rocket16> Is there any applet in Ubuntu, which can be used for exercise timer? I need one code/applet/gui app which needs to do a  simple task. It should say "L Quad", and then after 20 seconds" "Stop", then after 10 seconds "R Quad" and then after 20 seconds "Stop" and so on, and play three types of sounds with "stop", "R Quad" and "L Quad".
[22:56] <RudyValencia> It should have detected as SATA 300 (or at minimum, SATA 150)
[22:57] <pfifo> rocket16, surely ther are hundeds of workout flashapps on the web
[22:58] <Divecks> Hello, I think that in attempting to set my default file browser to Thunar, I have messed up the way nautilus works. From a fresh reboot/login, I can browse things as I always have, however, my desktop wallpaper is not there and I can not drag things to the desktop, interact with files on the desktop (graphically), or drag a box to select files. However, when I open any file as an administrator, or run >> gksudo nautilus >>, all is rest
[22:58] <Divecks> ored and my wallpaper shows and I can see and interact with files on my desktop. Does anyone know what caused this/how to remedy this? Thanks!!
[22:58] <syke> rudy: I'm going to check out the RAID controller's BIOS settings, they're apparantly separate from the motherboard's BIOS settings
[22:58] <rocket16> pfifo: Thanks. Can you please point me to one such?
[22:58] <RudyValencia> syke: Did you try hdparm -I [device node]
[22:58] <RudyValencia> Oh, he's left.
[22:58] <yoshie> Help please, trying to get HDD to auto mount, Ubuntu 10.04 64 Bit
[22:58] <pfifo> rocket16, sorry, i cant ask on /fit/
[22:59] <rocket16> pfifo: Ok, thanks.
[23:00] <Craig`> hey
[23:01] <Craig`> i was trying to follow this tutorial (i know it's aimed @ ubuntu 8.04) i'm using 10.04 -- http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm?page=2
[23:01] <Craig`> any way, when i `sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst the file is blank
[23:01] <hiexpo> i have getdeb repos so got it like that
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> Craig`: grub2 doesn't use menu.kst
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> *lst
[23:02] <datacrusher> hello everyone, i got a new notebook, and i wish to have windows xp, windows 7 and ubuntu altogether. hows the best order / way to install the 3 systens? i got a 500g hd
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> datacrusher: imo, xp then 7 then ubuntu
[23:03] <Hounddog> ubuntu and forget the 2 others... just kidding
[23:03] <Craig`> aeon-ltd: ah i see
[23:03] <VCoolio> datacrusher: xp (it needs c: or the first partition), then 7, then ubuntu so installing a windows doesn't remove grub
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> datacrusher: why xp & 7, 7 has xp mode
[23:03] <Craig`> can you give me some advice on how i'd install xp on a new partion i made?
[23:03] <datacrusher> Hounddog, well, ill mostly use windowze for gaming and a moth*** app from my job that i need xp to run
[23:03] <Craig`> i heard installing xp will remove grub
[23:03] <Craig`> and i've lost my live cd
[23:03] <Craig`> what should i do?
[23:03] <datacrusher> i swim well on ubuntu, will mostly use it
[23:03] <hiexpo> oops disregard my message sorry
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> Craig`: got another spare cd?
[23:04] <datacrusher> aeon-ltd, i coudnt get the app to run on 7, even with compatibility settings
[23:04] <syke> ok
[23:04] <Craig`> will a dvd suffice?
[23:04] <Craig`> i haven't gotten any spare cds
[23:04] <syke> in my dmesg, I see this:
[23:04] <syke> [    3.502319] ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
[23:04] <hiexpo> craig windows need to be install first i believe
[23:04] <syke> [    3.505706] ata1.00: ATA-8: WDC WD1500HLFS-01G6U1, 04.04V02, max UDMA/133
[23:04] <Hounddog> datacrusher i use windows vista... but only cause of gaming and ubuntu server for most other stuff
[23:04] <Craig`> hiexpo: oh
[23:04] <hiku> !paste > syke
[23:04] <Craig`> hiexpo: well i had windows xp first
[23:05] <Hounddog> at least if i get this nonsense running!
[23:05] <Craig`> then ubuntu said it'd install beside it
[23:05] <aeon-ltd> Craig`: just reburn a ubuntu cd/dvd and reinstall grub2 that way
[23:05] <datacrusher> Hounddog, man from vista to 7 i saw a huge difference
[23:05] <Craig`> but then when i try to boot into xp it complains of a missing file.
[23:05] <datacrusher> 7 seems like a xp with kde
[23:05] <Craig`> aeon-ltd: righto, so i'm going to have to download the livecd again then?
[23:05] <turt1e> syke,  not sure if this relates or not http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360987
[23:05] <syke> so, I'm confused. the first line says ata1 has a 3.0GBps SATA link, but the next line seems to indicate it's UDMA/133
[23:05] <aeon-ltd> Craig`: hal.dll?
[23:05] <Kyle__> How do you go about installing ubuntu on hardware that's too new for the iso to have drivers?
[23:05] <Craig`> aeon-ltd: that could be the one
[23:05] <Craig`> it's a dll file at least.
[23:05] <datacrusher> actually im thinking to set up a virtualbox with xp inside 7
[23:06] <syke> and this drive is a new 10KRPM drive and the benchmarks aren't much improved over the 7200RPM drive it replaced
[23:06] <datacrusher> so i would have only 2 systems
[23:06] <Craig`> but i just deleted the xp partion
[23:06] <aeon-ltd> Kyle__: pnp and udev can handle some of it, but usually not make a large use of it
[23:06] <Craig`> so it'll be no good any way.
[23:06] <hiku> syke: what benchmark testing are you doing? which apps?
[23:06] <hiexpo> i am pure linux so windows if dif tome
[23:06] <Hounddog> anyone maybee know about any issues with ubuntu running on a gigabyte m63m board? i installed it and only getting "loading operating system" after install... looks to me like the drives are not recognized somehow
[23:06] <Hounddog> sata drives...
[23:07] <bludog_anchorite> try a live CD
[23:07] <Hounddog> just installed debian
[23:07] <syke> hiku: using the System Testing app under System->Administration
[23:07] <Craig`> oh
[23:07] <Craig`> i just found my livecd
[23:07] <Hounddog> just finished... will see if it works
[23:07] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: The new mac mini I've got here has some nvidia sata chipset that's not on the CD :(
[23:07] <hiku> syke: ok, and what is your MB/s writes to the drive
[23:07] <Craig`> well the cd to install ubuntu
[23:07] <hiku> syke: and reads
[23:07] <Hounddog> bludog_anchorite that was for me with the livecd?
[23:08] <Craig`> so..should i boot then install xp on the spare partion, the when xp is installed reboot w/ ubuntu cd, boot into live and install grub?
[23:08] <bludog_anchorite> Hounddog: correct.  if it boots from a liveCD you have hard drive problems
[23:08] <bludog_anchorite> Hounddog: or a bios problem
[23:08] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: if I boot off the internal CD, I see no drives (cd or hdd).  If I boot off of an external usb cdrom, I only see the external.
[23:08] <Hounddog> hum.. i have 2 systems with same config... both have same issue ARGH
[23:09] <hiku> syke: what file-system did you put on your new 10k drive? is this the primary drive where ubuntu is installed, or a second drive?
[23:09] <VCoolio> !grub | Craig`
[23:10] <Hounddog> bludog_anchorite i have no idea anymore... i went through the complete bios screen etc...
[23:12] <syke> hiku: it says 9323MB/sec for cached reads and 121MB/sec for buffered disk reads
[23:12] <hiku> syke: ok, that looks good. how about writes?
[23:13] <hiku> syke: try this as well. dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/new/disk/test$RANDOM.img bs=1M count=1000, this will create a 1GB file. You should see 900+ MB/s for writes.
[23:13] <syke> hiku: disk_bench_test doesn't list the writes
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> Kyle__: i have no idea how to solve that, but just in general macs have never been that great at linux
[23:14] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: Lately they've been pretty good at it.  At least that was the impression I've gotten from several people.
[23:14]  * Kyle__ sighs
[23:14] <hiku> syke: throw that command in a while loop and let it run for abit. log the output and follow it with tee if you want. I'd say, stop dd'ing after about 15-20 passes
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> Kyle__: i've known macbooks to be the closest to anything a pc could do, but i've never seen a desktop mac with linux to be that popular. also whats wrong with osx? (and spaces + a VM)
[23:15] <hiku> syke: what did you format the drive? ext3? ext4?
[23:16] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: External drives aren't mounted on boot (need to login first), can't run without keyboard and mouse, and the really bad part: the virtualbox vm I've got running on it's brother crashes.
[23:16] <syke> hiku: ext4; used the ubuntu 10.04.1 install default
[23:16] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: So I'm migrating that linux vm over to this hardware.  if I can.
[23:17] <syke> hiku: interestingly, 1GB size results in poor performance: 125MB/sec, 130MB/sec, 160MB/sec, 190MB/sec
[23:17] <hiku> syke: ouch.
[23:17] <syke> taking the count down to 100 yields 1.5GB/sec
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> Kyle__: was this the server mac mini btw?
[23:17] <hiku> syke: hmm, try remounting it with noatime
[23:17] <syke> taking same with 250
[23:17] <hiku> syke: mount -o remount,rw,noatime
[23:17] <Kyle__> aeon-ltd: The one with the vbox that's crashing?  That's an imac.  The one I'm setting up now, mac mini (brand new!)
[23:18] <syke> at count=500, it starts to degrade
[23:18] <hiku> syke: what drive is this?
[23:18] <syke> why would throughput suck so bad with large files as opposed to smaller ones?
[23:18] <adam2new> i need help w/ clamtk/clamscan: no antivirus database found after installing
[23:19] <Kyle__> syke: What type of drive, how full, etc?
[23:19] <syke> hiku: Western Digital  WD1500HLFS
[23:19] <syke> 10KRPM 150GB
[23:19] <hiku> syke: syke  is this part of raid?
[23:19] <Kyle__> syke: Hum.  10krpm drive and that's what you're getting?
[23:19] <syke> hiku: no, it's a single drive
[23:19] <hiku> syke: hmm...
[23:19] <syke> but it is connected to the RAID controller
[23:19] <hiku> syke: is it a built in raid controller?
[23:20] <syke> yes
[23:20] <hiku> syke: is it enabled in the BIOS?
[23:20] <syke> built-in on Intel x58
[23:20] <Kyle__> Well in that case the raid controller won't provide any real bennefit.  But anyway.  what FS?
[23:20] <syke> er yes
[23:20] <hiku> Kyle__: ext4
[23:20] <syke> kyle__: ext4, the default for 10.04.1 install
[23:20] <Craig`> now where have i put my xp disc d:
[23:20] <Craig`> D:*
[23:20] <hiku> syke: you could try to disable the raid fuction of the hd controller, that may/may not help
[23:20] <syke> kyke__: I'm doing incremental benchmarks to figure out what gives the best performance for the money
[23:20] <Kyle__> Weird.
[23:21] <syke> when buying hardware for build machines/compile farms
[23:21]  * Kyle__ ponders
[23:21] <hiku> syke: imho, internal raid controllers suck.
[23:21] <adam2new> Craig`: i have a nice copy a friend burnt for me... but i dont use it due to copyright violations
[23:21] <syke> hiku: that might be so, but Anandtech got great performance out of this one
[23:21] <syke> (on Windows)
[23:21] <Craig`> adam2new: yeah that's my situation, i'm not going to use it i just think it needs, eh, dusting again
[23:21] <Kyle__> To update a kernel without a network connection, you'd just copy the linux-image-*.deb packages onto a  usb-stick right?
[23:22] <syke> but also, this is the "standard" workstation here, so I'm trying to work with what's easy to customize
[23:22] <hiku> syke: got ya
[23:22] <syke> hiku: I'll try turning off RAID
[23:22] <Craig`> found it
[23:22] <baltazar> I try to get stumpwm to work, I have created the xsession file as mentioned on the forum, but when I try to start it from gdm it just blinks and goes back to gdm
[23:22] <syke> but I'm now wondering if this is some weird thing with ext4 :(
[23:23] <adam2new> Craig`: why not use the Windows 9x Project (found via torrent sites)?
[23:23] <syke> mind you, writing 1GB files isn't something these build servers would do
[23:23] <Craig`> adam2new: sorry not to google but what's that?
[23:23] <syke> more like 10-100MB individual files
[23:23] <Craig`> Windows 9x is a generic term referring to Microsoft Windows computer operating systems based on an extended and modified Windows 95 kernel. This includes all versions of Windows 95, Windows 98 and Windows Me.[1]
[23:23] <adam2new> Craig`: it contains windows 95, 98, 98 SE, ME all on one iso
[23:24] <Craig`> i don't really want that though
[23:24] <Kyle__> syke: it could be.  There have been some performance regressions from what I've heard.  If you're dealing with lots of little files, maybe use the default ext4 for /, but compile everything in a nice bit xfs formatted /home?
[23:24] <syke> hiku: have you heard of any ext4 performance issues?
[23:24] <Craig`> i'm wanting windows only for playing gamse.
[23:24] <adam2new> Craig`: i like it for its themes i can copy to XP
[23:24] <Craig`> alright.
[23:24] <syke> craig`: try wine1.2 or CrossOver games. CrossOver has been worth every penny for me for both Outlook and game support
[23:25] <hiku> syke: is write cache enabled?
[23:25] <Craig`> is there a command i can use to view which wireless adapter i'm using?
[23:25] <ruffleS> hi guys. i'm affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941. i have a dual boot (win 7 + ubuntu lucid). does anyone know of a workaround to this problem?
[23:25] <syke> hiku: enabled where? no such setting in the BIOS...
[23:25] <hiku> syke: ext4 issues? no, I run alot of TB raids all with ext4
[23:25] <Craig`> syke: the games i'm wanting to play are a few years old so i initially thought wine would be a good candidate but i heard that wine was really laggy with games.
[23:25] <ruffleS> every time i boot into windows grub becomes unusable by the net reboot so i have to recover it with a livecd
[23:25] <hiku> syke: it's a jumper feature on the drive
[23:25] <ruffleS> next boot* sorry
[23:26] <adam2new> Craig`: i use PlayOnLinux
[23:26] <syke> Craig`: download the trial of CrossOver Games 9.1 and see if they work :) ig they don't, go ask in #crossover for help
[23:26] <Craig`> i just installed that before.
[23:26] <Craig`> PlayOnLinux, that is.
[23:26]  * adam2new slaps himself
[23:26] <syke> hiku: hm, it didn't look like there were jumpers... I'll look again
[23:27] <Craig`> can someone give me a hand? i downloaded this game torrent before but it has to be mounted etc and i'm clueless, new to linux (and game downloading)
[23:27] <Craig`> PM would be great :D
[23:27] <adam2new> Craig`: if it is an iso... i can easily help
[23:27] <adam2new> .iso
[23:27] <Craig`> it's not an iso
[23:27] <Craig`> it's cue/bin
[23:27] <latagore> Craig`: If you get an answer to that, I'd like to know too :3
[23:27] <syke> hiku: there's pegs that look like jumpers, but no jumper itself was included
[23:27] <hiku> syke: yeah, they don't include them anymore. it sucks. lol
[23:28] <syke> hiku: are you looking at the manual for this drive?
[23:28] <adam2new> i have no idea how to mount cue/bin in Linux (i never tried either)
[23:28] <hiku> syke: I just got 2TB x16 and none of them came with a jumper
[23:28] <latagore> I can't get internet to work on my laptop; wireless or wired
[23:28] <hiku> syke: yeah.
[23:29] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> convert to iso with uif2iso
[23:29] <latagore> He left lol
[23:29] <spasysheep> is there a way to zero-out a HDD without risking overwriting parts that may render the drive inoperable?
[23:30] <hiku> syke: just fyi. check out the reviews. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-136-296&SortField=3&SummaryType=0&PageSize=50&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
[23:30] <Craig`> sorry about that.
[23:30] <hiku> syke: still poking around
[23:30] <riz0n> Hey guys, I have a computer with Ubuntu (and Grub bootloader) and Windows XP. I'm about to erase Ubuntu from the hard drive, but I'm concerned that Grub may give mess up and I can no longer access XP. Once I erase the Ubuntu partition, will Grub still function where I can still access Windows, or do I need to do something different to rewrite the XP bootloader
[23:30] <theconartist> spasysheep, how would you make it inoperable?
[23:30] <latagore> Craig': Cmdr_W_T_Riker said to convert it with uif2iso
[23:30] <adam2new> spasysheep, it requires to "dd" to the drive itself (i forgot how to do it safely w/ this)
[23:30] <Craig`> latagore: both the bin and cue files?
[23:31] <latagore> riz0n: Grub is on the partition you installed Ubuntu, it will boot up to Windows XP once you have formatted it
[23:31] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> Craig`: it uses both to create the iso iirc
[23:31] <Blue1> riz0n: here;s what you need:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=314
[23:31] <latagore> riz0n: At least from my personal experience
[23:31] <turt1e> latagore, do you know if ubuntu is detecting the network adapters?  have you tried lspci  or ifconfig?
[23:31] <Craig`> the basic structure is: oh i see.
[23:31] <Craig`> oops the first part haha
[23:31] <latagore> turt1e: I will try that now
[23:31] <pfifo> hiku, i lold, WD is crap and that says it all
[23:32] <riz0n> latagore: I just did a little google searching and it says I can use the XP installer CD to do a "Recovery Console" and "Fixmbr" to rewrite the XP loader
[23:32] <pfifo> they should make a deal with apple
[23:32] <spasysheep> theconartist: i have heard people say that if you overwrite certain sectors with zeros the pc may stoop recognising the drive. im not sure if this is true but i dont want to risk it
[23:32] <MIRV-> Hey guys, I got a drive I'm trying to do an install on which previously had GPT , but is now MBR , gparted is picking up the old GPT signature and displaying that data.. any way to fix?
[23:32] <hiku> syke: heres some more info. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=16910324
[23:32] <syke> hiku: all reviews are pretty good
[23:32] <spasysheep> adam2new: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sd*
[23:33] <Blue1> MIRV-: no clue what gpt is.
[23:33] <turt1e> latagore, 'lspci |grep -i network'  will tell you if the os is even seeing the network devices
[23:33] <MIRV-> Guid Partition Table
[23:33] <sebsebseb> spasysheep: those kind of commands can wipe your whole hard disk, as far as I know
[23:33] <hiku> pfifo: yeah, for the price... I'd go sas, then ssd (took a spare 80gb ssd and installed ubuntu on it..).
[23:33] <Random832> spasysheep: where did you hear that? they may have confused it iwth the partition no longer being recognized by an OS, or with it no longer being able to boot
[23:33] <hiku> syke: the first set was mixed, the second link isn't
[23:34] <latagore> riz0n: Good luck with that
[23:34] <adam2new> spasysheep, i think it would be if=/dev/zero
[23:34] <hiku> syke: what is this disks primary purpose? just running an os? or a data bucket?
[23:34] <area51pilot> spasysheep: I zero'd out a drive a month or so ago and now its a paperweight ...  :_P
[23:34] <Craig`> Cmdr_W_T_Riker: i just executed, `sudo apt-get install uif2iso` is it a command line program just i can't seem to find it in my applications
[23:34] <latagore> turt1e: One device turned up, I need to make sure it is my wireless in Windows
[23:34] <latagore> turt1e: Time to restart
[23:34] <Squarism> what are gnome themes called : GDM Themes? GTK 2.x?
[23:35] <Blue1> gnome themes
[23:35] <spasysheep> area51pilot: that's what im trying to avoid
[23:35] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> Craig`: yes, it's probably a command line program
[23:35] <latagore> turt1e: By the way, what is the password for root O_o I never had to define the password
[23:35] <syke> hiku: yea, SSDs are a better choice for desktops that aren't mostly writing lots of data all over the disk all the time
[23:35] <spasysheep> Random832: I thought that may be the case, but I wasn't sure
[23:35] <syke> no?
[23:35] <Craig`> uif2iso, just by the name will it work with cue/bin files?
[23:35] <spasysheep> sebsebseb: that's the intention
[23:35] <VCoolio> Squarism: gtk2 for controls, everything inside windows (scrollbars, buttons, menus); gdk is for the login window
[23:35] <geirha> Squarism: GTK-themes for the components inside each window, metacity themes for the window borders, then there's icon themes for icons. Often gtk themes are bundled with metacity and/or icon themes.
[23:35] <area51pilot> spasysheep: ran DBAN on the drive, could not get it to work right using linux or Win
[23:36] <Craig`> aha yeah it is
[23:36] <sebsebseb> area51pilot: theres another tool on Ultimate Boot CD, that can be used instead of dban, or two
[23:36] <Squarism> VCoolio, geirha: thanx
[23:36] <turt1e> latagore,   not sure what ubuntu sets as default.  I always use sudo or sudo su if I absolutly need root access
[23:37] <Squarism> geirha, so what will change MOST is the metacity packages?
[23:37] <jrib> !root | latagore
[23:37] <spasysheep> the hard drive im trying to wipe is an external drive, there's an error on the drive somewhere and I've heard that a complete overwrite (zero fill) will make it remap bad sectors when it tries to write to them
[23:37] <Blue1> sudo the "mother may I, of linux"
[23:37] <syke> hiku: it's going to be building source code all the time
[23:37] <pfifo> ive looked at every single menu in the toolbar and cannot find control panel anywhere. how do I get to the control panel?
[23:37] <syke> my main goal is trying to get the build times down
[23:37] <area51pilot> sebsebseb: I know...still broke
[23:38] <Blue1> pfifo: there is no control panel per se, what are you wanting to do?
[23:38] <jrib> pfifo: gnome-control-center?  Why do you want to?
[23:38] <latagore> jrib: So do I have to worry about people hacking into the root account?
[23:38] <hiku> syke: ah, well the more spindles you have in say a raid 0, the faster it will be than just 1 disk
[23:38] <jrib> latagore: no
[23:38] <syke> hiku: yea, I figured that much. I have another WD 10KRPM drive here :)
[23:38] <pfifo> i want to get to my system properties so i can veiw my hardware profile
[23:38] <geirha> Squarism: Depends what you mean by MOST, but try some metacity themes and see what changes ;)
[23:38] <baltazar> Has anyone succeded in getting stumpwm to work in ubuntu? I have followed forum recommendations without luck
[23:39] <syke> i was just expecting noticable performance difference (in lower build times) over the single 7200RPM drive
[23:39] <hiku> syke: nice =). try a software raid first before going to your MB raid.
[23:39] <pfifo> i was looking all over for a link to my computer too and i dont even see that
[23:39] <syke> hiku: will software RAID do the elevator seeking that NCQ allows for?
[23:39] <Craig`> Cmdr_W_T_Riker: sorry can you help me with the syntax? it says `uif2iso <input.UIF> <output>' (it says it supports cue/bin), my files are called rld-thua.bin  rld-thua.cue what command would i execute?
[23:39] <hiku> syke: hmm, good question.
[23:39] <Squarism> geirha, and those are compatible "out of the box" with gnome.. no need for extra packages installed?
[23:39] <hiku> syke: maybe?
[23:39] <latagore> turt1e: My wireless adapter shows up in Linux but not my wired one
[23:39] <syke> hiku: my guess is no
[23:40] <hiku> syke: you'd have to read up on mdadm
[23:40] <bastidrazor> pfifo: right click on Applications  then Edit Menu  then single click System .. there is a control panel there you can check.
[23:40] <Blue1> pfifo: this might give you some information - not sure exactly what your are looking for:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=127
[23:40] <hiku> syke: your most likely right =)
[23:40] <dreux> ah k
[23:40] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> Craig`: i'm sorry i don't have that software installed
[23:40] <syke> hiku: yea. I'm going to try controller RAID first and see how that works out
[23:40] <hiku> syke: don't happen to have a 3ware/LSI 9690 laying around do ya
[23:40] <Craig`> alright thanks
[23:40] <syke> it's also possible that the disk isn't the bottleneck for the build
[23:40] <syke> hiku: ha, no ;)
[23:40] <Craig`> anyone here got experience with uif2iso and could help me? thanks.k
[23:41] <syke> I'm using GCC 4.5.1 -O3 -flto, and it's possible that causes the build to be more CPU-bound that I/O bound
[23:41] <syke> so far, the biggest performance boost I've gotten was tp enable HyperThreading
[23:41] <syke> allowed me to scale the build from the lowest time at -j6 (2m45s) to -j9 (2m15s)
[23:41] <latagore> Craig': Did you try google? :p
[23:41] <dreux> hey im a new to linux and I just installed ubuntu. Everything is fine, but I can
[23:41] <hiku> syke: are you not using -j for your cpu's or is that already built into your code
[23:41] <turt1e> latagore, you may need to boot into windows and get the specifics for the wired adapter and check to see if it should be support under linux
[23:42] <pfifo> no thats not it, i need to find the place where it lists my joystick so I can update its driver, my gamepad is a 16 button programmable with dual analog and an 8 way hatswitch for a dpad but only 4 buttons work
[23:42] <latagore> turt1e: How would I find if it's supported?
[23:42] <dreux>  hey im a new to linux and I just installed ubuntu. Everything is fine, but I can't get my wireless internet to show up on my laptop. Can anyone help?
[23:42] <Craig`> latagore: currently trying
[23:42] <syke> hiku: I'm testing -j1 thru -j9, doing a warmup run, then 3 runs and recording the times, in single user mode
[23:42] <jrib> !away > spasysheep|away
[23:42] <geirha> Squarism: Yes
[23:42] <syke> testing the build times of scummvm right now
[23:42] <hiku> syke: nice....
[23:42] <syke> will try gcc profiledbootstrap next
[23:43] <syke> also going to try another 4-core 2.8GHz CPU but with a 1333mhz bus to see what that does to performance
[23:43] <latagore> turt1e: and even if wired is not working, I'd at least want to get one of them working
[23:43] <turt1e> latagore, there is a supported hardware page somewhere in the ubuntu site.  just don't know where exactly.  haven't had to refer to it in a while.
[23:43] <syke> anyways
[23:43] <dreux> hey im a new to linux and I just installed ubuntu. Everything is fine, but I can't get my wireless internet to show up on my laptop. Can anyone help?
[23:43] <hiku> syke: well, sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck...
[23:44] <Xubuntu_Newb> I'm running Xubuntu on a very bad laptop, and I don't have much HDD. I want to try to install certain non-essential apps, like games, on a usb stick, as to save space. How can I install programs to my usb stick? (other than installing to /usr/local/)
[23:44] <syke> hiku: thanks for the help, I appreciate it! I may come back in if I need help setting up the RAID mirror :)
[23:44] <latagore> turt1e: I'll google it :p
[23:44] <hiku> syke: ok I'll be here (for another 2 hours)
[23:44] <turt1e> latagore, so your wireless adapter shows up with lspci,  how about with ifconfig?  and btw, are we talking about ubuntu 10.04 desktop or server edition?
[23:45] <latagore> turt1e: Desktop; time to reboot into Linux
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: wouldn't it make more sense to uninstall unneccessary apps on the hdd?
[23:46] <Xubuntu_Newb> Why? I have VERY little HDD on this laptop so I want to put apps on my usb stick
[23:46] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: how little is little?
[23:47] <latagore> turt1e: What am I looking for?
[23:47] <Xubuntu_Newb> Well, my main computer has over 1TB, but this VERY old laptop has only 2 GB remaining lol
[23:47] <dreux> can anyone help me with getting ubuntu to find my wireless connection?
[23:47] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: out of?
[23:47] <Xubuntu_Newb> 4.8 GB for the Xubuntu partition
[23:47] <latagore> dreux: I'm having the same problem :p
[23:47] <turt1e> latagore, in windows?
[23:47] <Craig`> a bit of googling and i found this tutorial on bchunk
[23:47] <Craig`> works wonders ;)
[23:47] <latagore> turt1e: in ifconfig
[23:47] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> if i install kubuntu-desktop would i get the exact same thing as if i downloaded the Kubuntu live cd?
[23:47] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: and what of the other partitions?
[23:48] <dreux> are you latagore?
[23:48] <aeon-ltd> asdfasdfasdfasdf: basically, but to get exactly the same as the kubuntu liveCD you;d have to uninstall the gnome stuff
[23:48] <latagore> dreux: Yep; not getting any wireless signals
[23:48] <Xubuntu_Newb> Taken up with windows XP (gift comp), and I would just like to install the apps on the usb stick
[23:48] <turt1e> latagore, oh... see if it is returning info under wlan0 or eth0.  if all it shows is 'lo'  then its not getting configiured
[23:49] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> aeon-ltd, and after uninstalling the gnome stuff would there be all kind of config files, settins wandering througout my /home folder? i dont think that comes with the live cd
[23:49] <latagore> turt1e: I have eth0 and lo
[23:49] <dreux> hmm k im going to try and google or use youtube to figure it out
[23:49] <dreux> ill let you know if I do
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: ok, i suppose you could have the binaries on the usb stick, but then the dependencies would have to be on the hdd
[23:49] <latagore> dreux: Thanks a bunch
[23:49] <Xubuntu_Newb> Like the shared libraries?
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> asdfasdfasdfasdf: some will be but they are just small dot files
[23:49] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ok
[23:50] <turt1e> latagore, thats odd that you are getting eth0 but lspci is showing only your wireless adapter.  you sure lspci is picking up the wireless adapter and not the ethernet?
[23:50] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> also is there any way to install ubuntu to another partition from my Fedora linux? some sort of Wubi, but for linux?
[23:51] <hiku> asdfasdfasdfasdf: run virtualbox in fedora, then install ubuntu
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: i suppose so, kinda
[23:51] <Craig`> what's the easiest way to increase a partition's storage? linux only has 28GB atm but i'm wanting to boost that to the other 900GB of free space
[23:51] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: if you Fedora uses grub you could boot directly into the ubuntu ISO and install that way.
[23:51] <Xubuntu_Newb> aeon-ltd: Yeah, so how would I do that, when I'm using ./configure do I just have to use --prefix?
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> Craig`: gparted, or another partition manager
[23:51] <Craig`> i'm using disk utility but i see no option to change partion capactiyt
[23:51] <hiku> Craig`: use gparted
[23:51] <latagore> turt1e: Oh, without the filter I see my ethernet adapter
[23:51] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: if using Lilo i do not know if that is possible.
[23:51] <latagore> turt1e: Sorry about that
[23:51] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hiku, dont  want to virtualize anything.
[23:51] <Xubuntu_Newb> And direct it to my USB?
[23:51] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> bastidrazor, it does use grub
[23:52] <hiku> asdfasdfasdfasdf: then you'll have to install them side by side and dual boot
[23:52] <Divecks> Hello, I think that in attempting to set my default file browser to Thunar, I have messed up the way nautilus works. From a fresh reboot/login, I can browse things as I always have, however, my desktop wallpaper is not there and I can not drag things to the desktop, interact with files on the desktop (graphically), or drag a box to select files. However, when I open any file as an administrator, or run >> gksudo nautilus >>, all is rest
[23:52] <Divecks> ored and my wallpaper shows and I can see and interact with files on my desktop. Does anyone know what caused this/how to remedy this? Thanks!!
[23:52] <Coronade> :D I have a helmet, it's so much better than a tin foil hat!
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: not sure, i've never compiled anything to be portable, but you could try compileing it in a user's folder then move the folder and all its content to the usb stick and try to launch it
[23:52] <dreux> anyone know how I can find my wireless card’s Interface Name?
[23:52] <Coronade> Steel army helmet?
[23:52] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> bastidrazor, i didnt know you could boot ISOs. is that safe? or is there any small chance of things messing up and my hard drive ending up formatted :D
[23:52] <hiku> !ot | Coronade
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> Divecks: theres a option for nautilus to manage the desktop somewhere
[23:53] <randerzander> is there a substantive difference between tightvnc and vnc4server?
[23:53] <theconartist> have you tried dmesg dreux
[23:53] <dreux> idk what dmesg is im brand new to using ubuntu
[23:53] <Xubuntu_Newb> Well, I don't want ANYTHING to be left in usr/bin for that program, what I want is just to be able to plug in my USB, and run the binaries for the programs
[23:53] <Divecks> aeon-ltd, I'm sure. But what i don't get is why it works when i run nautilus as root..
[23:54] <theconartist> type it in the terminal dreux
[23:54] <dreux> k let me get my laptop
[23:54] <aeon-ltd> Divecks: because that option has probably been checked for root
[23:55] <dreux> what is terminal under conartist?
[23:55] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: when you compile a app, everything should be in the folder you compiled in
[23:55] <aeon-ltd> dreux: say wut?
[23:55] <Divecks> aeon-ltd, I see. Any idea how I could remedy the problem then? I'm not even sure what to google really :P
[23:55] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: the only way the drive would be formatted is if you told the ubuntu installer to format it. the installer is smart enough to give you options of how you want to install. entire disk(not the choice you want), create a partition for Ubuntu(resizing your current partition to create a new).. probably the latter choice, also you have the ability to manually partition
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> Divecks: the option should be in the nautilus preferences somewhere
[23:56] <Adriannom> hi.  is it possible to rsync a home dir between several machines?  i.e. if i delete a file on my local machine it gets deleted on my server and other workstations
[23:56] <dreux> where do i go to type in the terminal
[23:56] <theconartist> dreux, accessories
[23:56] <bastidrazor> !terminal | dreux
[23:56] <evansp> can anyone help me get my laptop montor to display ubuntu? I'm connected to an external monitor which displays it fine
[23:56] <Divecks> aeon-ltd, I see. Okay thanks.
[23:57] <hiku> evansp: unplug the monitor from the laptop?
[23:57] <aeon-ltd> Divecks: oh wait, if you launch 'nautilus' in alt-f2 it should bring the desktop back
[23:57] <latagore> turt1e: Are you still there =o
[23:57] <dreux> so i just type dmsg?
[23:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> aeon-ltd: You mean when I do the /configure, make, make install, everything is kept there? Because I thought the binaries would anyway be installed to /usr/local, /usr/local/bin, so then if I just type the command to run the program I compiled, it will work since it's in the PATH variable?
[23:57] <hiku> dreux: dmesg
[23:58] <evansp> my laptop monitor just displays a blank screen after the boot options
[23:58] <Divecks> aeon-ltd, Yeah it usually does.. but still its not doing that on boot, which is the heart of the problem.
[23:58] <hiku> Xubuntu_Newb: no... to install your binarys and config files in a say $HOME/bin/myapp do; ./configure --prefix=$HOME/bin/myapp
[23:58] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> bastidrazor, oh ok and now that we are in the topic of installation i ran Kubuntu live cd in VirtualBox and during installation i was never prompted to where should i want grub to be installed. since i have a boot partition i'd like to install ubuntu's grub into its partition and add manually a line to it in my Fedora's grub installed to my hard drive's mbr.a i was never asked for this choice during installation..
[23:58] <aeon-ltd> Divecks: make it start every session, in administration -> sessions
[23:58] <aeon-ltd> hiku: thanks for answering for me :)
[23:59] <turt1e> latagore, sorry,  had to step away,  had burgers burning on the grill!!!
[23:59] <hiku> aeon-ltd: sorry bro... you looked busy. figured I'd help where I could
[23:59] <Xubuntu_Newb> Yeah that's what I was asking about using prefix in ./configure lol K thanks
[23:59] <hiku> Xubuntu_Newb: hehe np
[23:59] <Xubuntu_Newb> So if I do that, the entire program would be kept in that folder? And it can be used just fine portably?
[23:59] <Divecks> aeon-ltd, Ah okay. Will do.
[23:59] <latagore> turt1e: Oh that's okay. Shouldn't you be at the grill instead of IRC xD
[23:59] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> asdfasdfasdfasdf: perhaps because the installation process didn't see an exisiting boot loader
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> Xubuntu_Newb: should do, yeah, assuming you have the dependencies to run it