[08:48] <Cimi> ronoc: pong
[08:49] <ronoc> hi Cimi
[08:49] <ronoc> I was speaking with chaotic yesterday and we noticed the rounded album art actually clips the album severely reducing its area by a bit too much
[08:49] <Cimi> yep
[08:49] <ronoc> it also doesn't look square ?
[08:50] <ronoc> I filed a bug
[08:50]  * ronoc searches for bug no.
[08:50] <Cimi> I haven't tried it yet
[08:50] <ronoc> its in 0.4.1 which is in maverick
[08:56] <ronoc> Cimi: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/627962
[08:56] <ronoc> do you have time to look at this ?
[08:56] <Cimi> not much time but if it's easy yes
[09:05] <ronoc> Cimi: no worries, let me know if you time to look at it, if not I will get around to it
[09:09] <Cimi> ronoc: for the moment no
[09:09] <Cimi> I mean, if you can afford this it's better for me to work on my tasks
[09:10] <Cimi> at first glance it seems the area is wrong, at least you have to do a cairo_translate or draw 0.5px of offset
[09:10] <ronoc> okay grand will take a look
[10:06] <davidbarth> Cimi: Hi man, the new radiance is superb! ;)
[10:07] <Cimi> thank you
[10:43] <klattimer> Cimi: how about, having the application indicator spacing based on screen width
[10:44] <klattimer> it's useful that you can slide between them, and on a HUGE screen, I'd like a bigger target
[10:44] <klattimer> on a small screen it makes sense to use less spacing
[10:45] <Cimi> could be but i'm not the right man to ask those things :)
[10:45] <klattimer> meh. it's just and idea
[10:45] <klattimer> :)
[10:50] <Cimi> ivanka: iainfarrell pls ask otto to come (he is working with the wallpaper)
[10:52] <iainfarrell> Hi Cimi
[10:52] <Cimi> hi iain!
[10:52] <iainfarrell> he's away from his desk just now
[10:52] <Cimi> ok
[10:52] <iainfarrell> will ping him when he's back
[14:25] <davidbarth> Cimi: hey man, kvalo just mentioned that on irc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/538499
[14:25] <davidbarth> Cimi: which is an annoying bug for emacs users
[14:26] <davidbarth> Cimi: the bug itself is not critical, but if you can think of a good way to get rid of it, millions of emacs users would thank you ;)
[14:26] <Cimi> vi >> emacs
[14:26] <Cimi> (not true, just kidding :D )
[14:27] <nigelb> its true :p
[14:27] <Cimi> well, I don't know where this bug comes from :D
[14:34] <Cimi> davidbarth: how can i reproduce it?
[14:34] <Cimi> I have installe emacs
[14:35] <davidbarth> launch emacs from a terminal and you should see the error messages
[14:35] <davidbarth> Cimi: ^^
[14:35] <Cimi> yep
[14:35] <Cimi> no bug here
[14:36] <Cimi> davidbarth: ok, the bug is not reproduceable with the new light themes
[14:36] <Cimi> it seems it depends on GtkRange::trough-under-steppers = 0
[14:37] <Cimi> which is used by old ambiance
[14:37] <Cimi> but, looking at the patch, sounds more like a bug in emacs itself
[14:37] <Cimi> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52700148/shut-up-warning.diff
[14:38] <Cimi> this is the patch in murrine, quite ugly
[14:40] <davidbarth> Cimi: hmm, contract-based programming, no need to bother with the bozos, in a way ;)
[14:42] <Cimi> davidbarth: yeah but "it's not my problem" is not the answer I would like to give
[14:46] <Cimi> it's not professional
[16:13] <bratsche> Hey htorque
[16:13] <htorque> hey
[16:13] <bratsche> Do you still get the errors that you described here?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/appmenu-gtk/+bug/624100
[16:14] <htorque> just checked it some minutes ago - i'm no longer seeing the dbus related critical warning but still the "drawable is not a pixmap or window" one
[16:15] <bratsche> htorque: Any chance you could build the branch I attached there and see if that fixes it?
[16:15] <bratsche> I'm not able to see either of the errors, so I don't know how to verify if it's fixed.
[16:16] <htorque> i can try to reproduce it on a maverick install i did some days ago - should be "cleaner"
[16:22] <htorque> bratsche, not seeing any of those two warnings with the fresh maverick install
[16:22] <bratsche> Hmm.. I hate it when bugs mysteriously disappear. :)
[16:22] <htorque> bratsche, but on this machine i'm still at 0.1.7-0ubuntu1
[16:22] <htorque> will update
[16:25]  * htorque off for a restart
[16:31] <htorque> bratsche, i purged and re-installed appmenu-gtk & co., and now i'm no longer seeing the warnings
[16:31] <bratsche> Hmm, okay.
[16:31] <bratsche> htorque: Thanks very much!
[16:32] <htorque> bratsche, np - i think i will reinstall this system... don't wanna spam LP with bugs no one can reproduce ;)
[16:33] <bratsche> heh
[16:45] <htorque> bratsche, maybe i cannot reproduce those warnings anymore because the global nautilus menu doesn't seem to work right now (that i can reproduce on the other system). some menu items don't work at all while others trigger wrong functions.
[16:45] <htorque> other applications work fine
[16:46] <bratsche> htorque: Uhh.. that's news to me.  What menu is working wrong?  I need to test this out. :)
[16:48] <htorque> bratsche, in a desktop session: eg. File -> Close does nothing, Go -> Template opens the Network folders properties
[16:49] <bratsche> File -> Close in what app?
[16:49] <htorque> nautilus
[16:49] <htorque> only nautilus
[16:49] <bratsche> That's working just fine for me.
[16:49] <bratsche> I just tried it.
[16:49]  * bratsche reinstalls appmenu-gtk from apt
[16:50] <bratsche> Yeah, I just reinstalled appmenu-gtk on my Meerkat laptop and Close still worked for me.
[16:51] <htorque> that's weird cause i'm seeing this on two different systems
[16:54] <bratsche> htorque: Have you been running Unity inside a Gnome session by any chance?
[16:55] <htorque> when it was released, but only a couple of times - on the second system: no. but i have it installed on both machines.
[17:03] <htorque> bratsche, after logging out and logging in again, it seems to work just fine. if i can find a way to reliably reproduce it in a VM, i'll open a bug report
[17:04] <bratsche> htorque: seb128 was able to reproduce it, but it's because he sometimes runs Unity inside his Desktop session and they're both running on the same session bus.
[17:05] <htorque> i definitely haven't run unity inside a desktop session for the past months
[18:00] <htorque> bratsche, try this: start a desktop session with the applet in the panel, start nautilus, close nautilus via the global menu, repeat this another three times, the fifth time you start nautilus, the global menu should only show "File Edit" - close nautilus, remove and re-add the applet, start nautilus -> now the complete global menu shows up but the menu items don't work or trigger wrong functions. i can reproduce this on two different systems and a
[18:00] <htorque> VM and it seems to only affect nautilus. for your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DarLUN8LmL8
[18:02] <bratsche> Ah, fucked up.  Thanks. :)
[18:03] <htorque> bratsche, another way (the way i initially triggered it, i guess): start a desktop session without the applet, open and close nautilus four times, add the applet, open nautilus -> same behavior
[18:03] <htorque> heh, yeah, some nice weird bug
[18:06] <bratsche> That's definitely got to be a bug in appmenu-gtk then.
[18:09] <htorque> should i open a bug report? if so, any additional files you want me to add?
[18:10] <bratsche> Yeah, do you mind opening a bug against appmenu-gtk and assigning to me?
[18:10] <htorque> will do
[18:12] <bratsche> Thanks dude!
[18:31] <htorque> bratsche, apparently i can't assign anyone to a bug, see bug 628983
[18:32] <bratsche> I took it.
[18:32] <bratsche> Thanks!
[18:32] <bratsche> I'm going to go grab some lunch now though.
[19:26] <bratsche> htorque: After you open 5 Nautilus windows, are you just getting the "Desktop" menu or are you getting a normal Nautilus menu that just doesn't work right?
[19:28] <htorque> bratsche, with the applet present, the fifth time i open a window, it shows "File Edit", after removing and re-adding the applet i'm getting the normal menu, it just doesn't work
[19:28] <bratsche> k