| lifeless | bman2: do a search for bugs you are subscribed to | 00:10 |
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| lifeless | bman2: and then, as appropriate, unsubscribe from the bug; unsubscribe the team(s) you're in from it, or leave the team(s) subscribed to it. | 00:10 |
| lifeless | e.g. if you're in a product qa team you might reasonably expect that team to be subscribed to its products bugs :) | 00:11 |
| bman2 | nah | 00:11 |
| bman2 | its lists for laundpad itself | 00:11 |
| bman2 | i use myown sso | 00:11 |
| bman2 | how do i search? | 00:11 |
| lifeless | bman2: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?advanced=1 | 00:16 |
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| poolie | did bug expiry ever end up being reenabled? | 02:03 |
| lifeless | there is a spec | 02:04 |
| lifeless | / wiki page thingy | 02:04 |
| lifeless | I saw an edit go by the other day | 02:04 |
| poolie | is that a "no"? | 02:04 |
| poolie | not complaining, just confused | 02:05 |
| poolie | https://help.launchpad.net/BugExpiry and the ui imply it's active | 02:05 |
| wgrant | Current schedule is for right after Maverick. | 02:05 |
| lifeless | oh | 02:05 |
| lifeless | so 'no' | 02:05 |
| wgrant | It was going to be around now. | 02:05 |
| lifeless | coming, but it needed more work | 02:05 |
| wgrant | But Ubuntu wanted it delayed. | 02:05 |
| lifeless | something like: | 02:05 |
| lifeless | - ubuntu needed some tweaks | 02:05 |
| lifeless | - ubuntu gets turned on | 02:06 |
| lifeless | - other people can opt in after that | 02:06 |
| poolie | that's fine, i just want the docs to reflect reality | 02:06 |
| lifeless | https://dev.launchpad.net/Bugs/CommuncationForBugExpiry | 02:07 |
| poolie | thanks | 02:09 |
| * poolie contemplates writing an api client to copy tracebacks from the attachment into the description and bug title | 02:27 | |
| wgrant | poolie: Sounds like you need apport. | 02:27 |
| poolie | i have one; can it be told to do that? | 02:28 |
| wgrant | I thought it did by default. | 02:28 |
| poolie | then i will try to work that out before duplicating it, thanks | 02:29 |
| wgrant | For Ubuntu it certainly does. | 02:30 |
| poolie | hm | 02:30 |
| poolie | so i think we have a few problems | 02:30 |
| poolie | one is that i don't think it ever copies the stack trace into the bug description? | 02:30 |
| poolie | (or does it?) | 02:30 |
| poolie | and i really find that helpful for bzr | 02:31 |
| poolie | the other is that users tend to upload crash files manually rather than using apport-bug | 02:31 |
| poolie | maybe we can steer them towards it | 02:31 |
| poolie | oh another is they may be on windows and just paste a log file, not using apport at all | 02:31 |
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| micahg | lifeless: convert to question is still broke on edge | 03:51 |
| lifeless | micahg: yes, for that bug | 03:52 |
| lifeless | micahg: I have a branch that takes us a good way towards knowing why | 03:52 |
| micahg | lifeless: ok :), I got worried when I saw your post about lowering the timeout | 03:52 |
| lifeless | micahg: hopefully that will land today; and in a follow up I'll instrument mail, memcache etc | 03:52 |
| lifeless | micahg: well, convert to question isn't *systematically* broken | 03:53 |
| lifeless | micahg: its db times were very reasonable IIRC | 03:53 |
| micahg | lifeless: yeah, it just timeouts | 03:53 |
| lifeless | micahg: so its got a bad scaling factor in it which means it breaks sometimes | 03:53 |
| lifeless | we will definitely fix it | 03:53 |
| * micahg must just have bad luck with it :) | 03:53 | |
| micahg | lifeless: so, with the lower timeout, I should file bugs again for oopses? | 03:53 |
| lifeless | micahg: you always should if they are not in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.tag=timeout | 03:54 |
| lifeless | micahg: or if its not a timeout oops | 03:54 |
| micahg | k | 03:54 |
| lifeless | micahg: we've fixed lots this last month | 03:55 |
| * micahg adds that to LP links | 03:55 | |
| lifeless | micahg: note that aiming for -0- timeouts is not a sane goal, we'll aim to minimise, but things will always happen | 03:56 |
| micahg | lifeless: of course, the convert to question one is just one I hit every time on edge :) | 03:56 |
| lifeless | micahg: sorry! you hit it on prod too though right ? | 03:56 |
| micahg | lifeless: yes, about half the time | 03:57 |
| lifeless | it may get a little worse | 03:57 |
| lifeless | this will get it fixed sooner | 03:57 |
| micahg | lifeless: now I know where to check for timeout bugs though, so I'll file new ones if I hit something | 03:57 |
| lifeless | please do. | 03:57 |
| micahg | if I don't have time to code for LP at least I can report bugs :) | 03:58 |
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| Ryuzaki` | Hi, anyone about? | 10:36 |
| wgrant | Ryuzaki`: Sure. | 10:37 |
| Ryuzaki` | Ideally a Canonical LOSA? Problem is, I can't recall which e-mail address I've currently got my Launchpad account on, as I've swapped about domains when they've been used for different things | 10:38 |
| wgrant | Ryuzaki`: Do you know your Launchpad username? | 10:39 |
| Ryuzaki` | So I can't log in, as I can't recall exactly which address is current for my LP account | 10:39 |
| Ryuzaki` | I do know it, yeah | 10:39 |
| wgrant | What is it? | 10:39 |
| * Ryuzaki` points wgrant to PM | 10:40 | |
| wgrant | Ah, so your email address is private. | 10:40 |
| wgrant | So you do indeed need a LOSA. | 10:40 |
| wgrant | LOSA ping: ^^ | 10:41 |
| mthaddon | so what's the account? | 10:41 |
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| maxb | Incidentally, *why* do we log into LP using an email address, not an account id? | 11:06 |
| wgrant | A good reason now is that accounts don't have non-numeric identifiers besides an email address. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | As for the original reason? No idea. | 11:07 |
| geser | it is possible to log-in with ones @ubuntu.com email address? never tried this | 11:30 |
| wgrant | geser: If you've added it to your Ubuntu Single Sign On account. | 11:34 |
| geser | Ubuntu SSO account? is that different from my LP account? | 11:38 |
| lifeless | wgrant: we didn't want to expose numeric ids. we started with basic auth, with the username. | 11:40 |
| wgrant | geser: Um, sort of. | 11:40 |
| wgrant | geser: Your Launchpad account is knows the identity of your SSO account. login.launchpad.net and login.ubuntu.com use the SSO account. | 11:41 |
| geser | is there a seperate page for my SSO account? e.g. to configure the attached e-mail addresses or change the password or comes this from the LP account? | 11:44 |
| wgrant | geser: Email addresses are configured separately (on login.ubuntu.com or login.launchpad.net). | 11:44 |
| wgrant | And passwords aren't on LP any more | 11:44 |
| * geser didn't notice this change | 11:47 | |
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| hrw | hi | 16:15 |
| hrw | is it normal that PPA's APT archive has packages which are not visible on LP PPA page? | 16:15 |
| bigjools | yes, click on the "View Packages" link | 16:16 |
| hrw | https://edge.launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/arm-cross-compiler/+packages does not list libc6-armel-cross | 16:16 |
| hrw | result of armel-cross-toolchain-base build | 16:17 |
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| * bigjools pokes around | 16:18 | |
| hrw | and (as expected) my next package failed to build cause did not found those in PPA's APT | 16:20 |
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| bigjools | that won't be the reason it failed | 16:21 |
| hrw | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-dev-armel-cross : Depends: libc6-armel-cross (= 2.12.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 16:22 |
| bigjools | hrw: it looks like you're creating arch-all packages of the same version | 16:22 |
| bigjools | see http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54778928/upload_1945934_log.txt | 16:23 |
| bigjools | "The following files are already published in ..." | 16:23 |
| bigjools | and the old binaries got superseded too early | 16:23 |
| hrw | bigjools: it is first time when this package built on both archs | 16:23 |
| bigjools | I suspect you're generating the same package on both arches | 16:24 |
| hrw | yes, will have to change that | 16:24 |
| bigjools | and one is trying to supersede the other | 16:24 |
| bigjools | same arch-all package I mean | 16:24 |
| hrw | but why amd64 build (first finished) published only amd64 packages but arch:all ones got to APT? | 16:24 |
| bigjools | we only build arch-all on i386 | 16:25 |
| bigjools | I'm not sure of that | 16:25 |
| hrw | ok, I am now preparing new version of package. will delete current one | 16:25 |
| bigjools | hrw: don't delete | 16:25 |
| bigjools | just increment the version | 16:25 |
| bigjools | the old version will be automatically superseded | 16:25 |
| hrw | I know, but I prefer to not ship broken versions in meantime | 16:26 |
| bigjools | ok | 16:26 |
| bigjools | I'm guessing that your package is generating files that are not in the control file? | 16:26 |
| bigjools | I'm not a packaging expert, so that's a guess | 16:26 |
| hrw | man, it is far more complicated | 16:27 |
| bigjools | yes, it usually is :) | 16:27 |
| hrw | my package runs dpkg-buildpackage internally, then select set of packages, run some of them though dpkg-cross, then mangle them. then generate debian/control and debian/files | 16:27 |
| bigjools | yeah it will struggle to show much in the UI since the source package doesn't tell the whole story | 16:29 |
| hrw | so on i386 "binary-arch" + "binary-indep" are run and on amd64 only "binary-arch" - right? | 16:29 |
| bigjools | well if we see an arch-indep package we build it on i386 | 16:31 |
| bigjools | but since you're taking that decision away from the build system then you need to manage it yourself | 16:31 |
| bigjools | either arch will be fine | 16:31 |
| hrw | I am asking cause I need to split few build steps | 16:32 |
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| tgm4883 | How can I turn off Answers in a project? I don't want users to be able to ask questions here on LP? | 16:39 |
| thekorn | tgm4883: I think it's in the very left column on your project's page in the "Configure progress" section | 16:43 |
| thekorn | click on configure support tracker | 16:43 |
| deryck | https://launchpad.net/PROJECT/+configure-answers | 16:43 |
| thekorn | and choose unknown | 16:44 |
| thekorn | right, or listen to deryck ;) | 16:44 |
| deryck | no, thekorn knows all as well :-) | 16:44 |
| tgm4883 | see, I would love to have that work then | 16:45 |
| tgm4883 | but i've had it configured that way for weeks now | 16:45 |
| tgm4883 | and someone asked a question 17 hours ago | 16:45 |
| tgm4883 | I have no idea how they did that | 16:45 |
| deryck | tgm4883, what project? | 16:45 |
| tgm4883 | mythbuntu | 16:45 |
| tgm4883 | https://edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu | 16:45 |
| tgm4883 | https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+question/123711 | 16:46 |
| deryck | weird | 16:46 |
| tgm4883 | thats the question, IDK how they asked it, I can't find anywhere to ask it on our project | 16:46 |
| deryck | yeah, it looks like it's turned off. | 16:46 |
| tgm4883 | odd | 16:47 |
| deryck | tgm4883, maybe someone asked it against something else and someone re-targeted it to mythbuntu? Just a guess. | 16:47 |
| tgm4883 | could be, i'm going to ping aaron about it | 16:47 |
| tgm4883 | if thats the case, would seem like a bug | 16:47 |
| deryck | tgm4883, I would open a bug against launchpad-answers. I think there is a bug somewhere. Unless it was asked before you turned off the app. | 16:48 |
| tgm4883 | definitly not. We've actually had answers turned off for about a year, then when the new (configure..) thing came out we turned it off there as well | 16:48 |
| tgm4883 | so it's definitly been off for a month or so | 16:49 |
| deryck | yeah, I would file a bug then | 16:49 |
| tgm4883 | will do | 16:49 |
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| smoser | ok, stupid user question: i have a tarball. i want to put that tarball up for others as a released version tarfile. how would i do that: https://launchpad.net/cloud-init | 18:02 |
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| SpamapS | smoser: add it as a release | 18:40 |
| SpamapS | smoser: click on 'trunk' series, then in there click "Create release" | 18:41 |
| SpamapS | smoser: already looks like there is a tarball up w/ a mielstone and everything. | 18:42 |
| smoser | yeah. i ended up figuring that out, although i'm not sure its right. | 18:42 |
| smoser | i didn't really want a milestone. | 18:42 |
| smoser | i wanted a release | 18:42 |
| smoser | pita | 18:42 |
| smoser | (that wasn't nice, sorry) | 18:43 |
| smoser | i'm probably just not a good user, but i was just confused, and wanting an easy way to just add a download. | 18:43 |
| SpamapS | they're the same thing | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | releases are the culmination of a particular milestone | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | I was a little confused by the milestone thing at first too. | 18:45 |
| SpamapS | but yes, you're a bad user, horrendous really | 18:45 |
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| BUGabundo | evening guys | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | what's up with LP anwers? | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | I've got two emails from LP project sent to one of my projects contact | 21:51 |
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| thumper | BUGabundo: is it possible that one of them was for a team? | 22:51 |
| thumper | BUGabundo: if you look at the source of the email there should be some headers that explain a bit about who and why it was sent | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | some how one of my teams was set as a contact for LP anweser | 22:51 |
| thumper | BUGabundo: starting with X-Launchpad | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | no idea how it ended up there | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | all of the sudden today I started getting mail | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | thumper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487489/ | 22:53 |
| thumper | BUGabundo: X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale is the interesting oen | 22:56 |
| thumper | one | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | thumper: I've "fixed" it | 22:57 |
| thumper | :) | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | but I just want to know HOW to got there in the 1st place | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | if it was a fluke, maybe some one else is also affected | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | if it was someone on my time, I need to talk to them | 22:58 |
| wgrant | It was someone on your team :( | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | if it was someone unauthorized, then LP needs to be fixed | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | wgrant: based on your logs? | 22:58 |
| wgrant | No. | 22:58 |
| wgrant | But I know that code, and it's very careful about who it allows to make subscriptions. | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | your experience? | 22:59 |
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| BUGabundo | there are 3 ppl in that team | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | ill talk to them | 22:59 |
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