[00:00] <Guest88537> hello I have a problem mounting any usb storage devices about three months ago I had a usb ide laptop drive die while mounted and the computer still looks for it I have to hit "S" to skip mounting during boot and when I plug in a usb drive I get this message "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: only root can mount /dev/sdf1 on /media/20Gb" Can some one please help I am on ubuntu 10.0
[00:02] <Guest88537> I did create another 20Gb usb drive on my laptop and boot with it plugged in but it seems to know that it is a different drive and didn't clear the problem
[00:06] <aveilleux> Guest88537: Have you tried updating GRUB?
[00:08] <Guest88537> I have gone through two new versions of grub since the problem drive and it still has the same problem
[00:10] <Guest88537> can I edit out the record of that drive somewhere so the comp doesn't know it ever existed?
[00:11] <aveilleux> Guest88537: Have you updated it, though? Simply upgrading the version of GRUB doesn't update its configuration
[00:13] <Guest88537> don't really know how I have been Using Ubuntu for 4 years now but usually when I get this far gone I just reinstall.  But I don't learn how to fix things that way and I have a lot of stuff done that I don't want to have to redo
[00:14] <aveilleux> Guest88537: It's really simple... just load up the LiveCD (10.04) and run sudo update-grub /dev/<hdd_name>
[00:16] <Guest88537> ok but the grub list doesn't have anything for that drive it was just a storage volume and do you think if I do that it will fix the usb mount problem that I have while running?
[00:17] <aveilleux> Guest88537: update-grub handles a lot of that automagically
[00:17] <aveilleux> Guest88537: As long as the partition is flagged as bootable, GRUB can find it and add it to the list. Any device that doesn't exist anymore will be frmoved from the list.
[00:18] <Guest88537> probably wouldn't be bad to shorten the grub list anyway it has every kernek since 9.04 on it still
[00:18] <Guest88537> kernel
[00:19] <Guest88537> thank you gonna reboot and try that if it works than i will be very happy if not I will be back
[00:20] <aveilleux> Good luck, Guest88537
[00:44] <Guest80486> hi aveilleux the grub update didn't work kept saying /dev was not mounted
[00:45] <aveilleux> Guest80486: I'm not sure I understand the nature of that error... /dev is the directory for access to block-level devices. It's not a real directory; it's the hardware
[00:46] <Guest80486> thats what I thought too but I typed in "  sudo update-grub /dev/sda "  and it failed and said /dev wasn't mounted
[00:50] <aveilleux> Guest80486: That's very odd. Can you go back into the LiveCD Terminal and type "mount", then come back here and tell me the output? You may need to write it down
[00:51] <Guest80486> yeah I am gonna go get my laptop so I can do both at once cacha in a couple min
[01:02] <Guest80486> hi aveilleux back on laptop booting live cd now
[01:04] <Guest80486> ok terminal open
[01:48] <boywonder> hi,why should i use glib?
[01:49] <boywonder> anyone here?
[02:41] <wkivel> ping
[02:41] <wkivel> anyone here?
[02:44] <wkivel> Is there any way to open .rar and other zipped folders in ubuntu?
[02:52] <bunbunderson> I have an HP deskjet 1660. when I plugged it in, it was recognised and seemed to be working. I tried to print a test page and it said the job was started in the top right corner and then said job was completed, but nothing happened. i ran hp-check and everything seems to be in order...any suggestions?
[03:05] <harrisonk> is hobgoblin still here?
[03:05] <zkriesse> harrisonk: doubtful but I am
[03:07] <stlsaint> harrisonk: what may we help you with?
[03:07] <bunbunderson> Hi. I have an HP deskjet 1660. Ubuntu 10.04. I got it seemingly installed properly, but nothing will print. It says job started and job complete, but nothing happnes
[03:12] <bunbunderson> should i try somewhere else?
[03:13] <harrisonk> zkriesse and stlsaint I am fine I just want to thank hobgoblin for helping me start my ubuntu wiki page.
[03:13] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: are you sure you are printing to the correct printer? (not trying to insult or anything, just it happened before)
[03:14] <bunbunderson> yes
[03:14] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: do you get any printing errors?
[03:14] <harrisonk> Could it be an inproper driver?
[03:14] <bunbunderson> not at all. It says the printing completed
[03:15] <bunbunderson> i am using the hplip thing that i dont really understand, my printer is recognised and when I ran hp-check , everything seemed fine.
[03:15] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: did you try installing or did you just plug and play?
[03:15] <bunbunderson> i actually tried both
[03:15] <bunbunderson> plug and play then i deleted that and tried to install manually through hplip
[03:15] <bunbunderson> i think thats the right letters
[03:16] <harrisonk> bunbunderson: did you try going through the system -> admin -> printing?
[03:17] <bunbunderson> The printer is listed there
[03:17] <bunbunderson> this is the only error that hp-check came up with. error: User needs to be member of group 'lp' to enable print, scan & fax.
[03:17] <bunbunderson> User member of group 'lpadmin'.
[03:18] <harrisonk> is your user a member of the lpadadmin group?
[03:18] <bunbunderson> i dont know
[03:18] <harrisonk> Go to system -> admin -> users and groups
[03:19] <bunbunderson> it is a member of lp and lpadmin
[03:19] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: in a terminal enter command: groups
[03:19] <zkriesse> harrisonk: Ah wiki eh?
[03:19]  * zkriesse is a HUGE wiki editor harrisonk 
[03:19] <bunbunderson> bunbunderson adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[03:20] <harrisonk> zkriesse: yes wiki.ubuntu.com/harrisonk
[03:20] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: so you have used the generic drivers along with the drives that came with printer and neither of them work?
[03:21] <bunbunderson> i did not try with the disc that came with the printer
[03:21] <harrisonk> stlsaint and bunbunderson could the drivers be stoping each other? ie. driver confict?
[03:22] <bunbunderson> stlsaint and harrisonk: am i supposed to type your names before everything I say?
[03:22] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: i would sugget you download drivers from the hp site if the generic ones are not working
[03:22] <bunbunderson> okay
[03:23] <harrisonk> bunbunderson: it is helpful on the bigger suport chanels but not nessesary
[03:23] <harrisonk> typeing names before content
[03:24] <harrisonk> *typing
[03:24] <bunbunderson> i got ya :)
[03:24] <harrisonk> good ;-)
[03:25] <bunbunderson> stlsaint and harrisonk: through hp's website, they send you to download hplip (HP Linux Imaging and Printing) which is supposed to be universal for many hp printers including mine.
[03:27] <bunbunderson> and i asked the people on hplip's launchpad thingy and no one has said anything in 24 hours so I figured I would try my luck here
[03:30] <harrisonk> bunbunderson: the launchpad thingy I heard is slow at answering questions.
[03:30] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: and hplip does not work for you?
[03:31] <harrisonk> not that you will not get a answer it's just slow
[03:32] <bunbunderson> it *seems* to work. theres a little hp logo by my little wireless bars. HP says it is printing and completed...
[03:33] <bunbunderson> but the printer doesnt budge
[03:33] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: what does the printer say?
[03:35] <bunbunderson> it doesnt say anything
[03:38] <harrisonk> bunbunderson: does your printer have a small LCD screen on it?
[03:39] <bunbunderson> no. its totally the $25 dollar printer from walmart
[03:40] <harrisonk> ahh one of those
[03:40] <harrisonk> basic?
[03:40] <bunbunderson> very
[03:40] <bunbunderson> one button
[03:40] <bunbunderson> but it has always worked perfectly for me
[03:50] <bunbunderson> harrisonk and stlsaint: i appreciate you guys tryin to help me
[03:51] <stlsaint> bunbunderson: sorry it didnt work for you
[03:51] <bunbunderson> is there a control alt delete-ish thing for ubuntu?
[03:52] <seidos> bunbunderson, there used to be a short cut key to restart xorg.
[03:52] <seidos> s/key/key combo
[04:28] <Verminator> is there a way to get a list of packages changed/installed as part of a daily update?
[04:41] <seidos> huh, some music plays in totem but not in rhythmbox
[04:44] <Verminator> @seidos, what format is the music in, wav, mp3, etc?
[04:45] <seidos> Verminator, mp3.  i'm reading over this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/468577
[04:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 468577 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) ""unable to start playback pipeline" (other apps work) (affects: 14) (heat: 24)" [Low,Incomplete]
[04:45] <seidos> i'll try removing and installing with apt-get
[04:49] <Shaun_> my ubuntu 10.04 wbui wont connect and cant detect any wireless network!! HELP
[04:51] <temposs> wow, Shaun didn't stay long enough to type an answer :-(
[04:52] <seidos> i read it, but don't know wubi
[04:53] <temposs> some standard things to try, like enabling restricted hardware drivers
[05:00] <Verminator> is the following a good way to generate a list of recently installed/upgrade pacxkages?
[05:00] <Verminator> grep 'trigproc\|upgrade' dpkg.log
[05:02] <Verminator> I've run a similar command, but want to make sure I understand the output
[05:02] <aveilleux> Verminator: Give me a second and I'll try it
[05:02] <Verminator> thx
[05:09] <Verminator> aveilleux, if u know of an easier/better way, I'm open to that too
[05:16] <aveilleux> Verminator: The command looks right to me
[05:16] <aveilleux> Verminator: The output looks fine too
[05:17] <Verminator> thx, I appreciate the confirmation.  do u know what the diff between trigproc and upgrade is?
[05:19] <aveilleux> Verminator: Upgrade is when the package actually gets updated, trigproc is when the deferred ldconfig triggers the processed (at the end of the install)
[05:20] <Verminator> aveilleux, I understand upgrade, but am still confused on trigproc, can u explain it more in newguy terms, sorry.
[05:21] <aveilleux> Verminator: Have you installed software through the command line before?
[05:22] <Verminator> only once or twice and it was something I copied and moded from elsewhere
[05:23] <Verminator> my cli is usually confined to finding and parsing text files
[05:24] <aveilleux> Verminator: Let me get my Ubuntu system back up, I just put it back away
[05:25] <Verminator> aveilleux, no worries, dont go outta your way, at this point my task is complete, I'm just trying to learn at this point and have to get off soon anyway, I really appreciate your help though.
[05:26] <aveilleux> Verminator: Well my explanation is the same, I just have to get the exact wording
[05:27] <Verminator> aveilleux, fair enough, I'll save your reply and try to make more sence of it tomorrow, thanks again
[05:30] <aveilleux> Verminator: One of the last steps of the package setup process is "Processing triggers for X", where X is usually libc-bin or another dependent library. What exactly that means, I forget. But it's basically everything that happens after the package itself is installed and ready to be run.
[05:31] <Verminator> aveilleux, sounds kind of like a 2nd round of checking/updating dependencies.
[06:38] <bdogg> um hello
[06:38] <bdogg> can someone help me with a graphics card problem?
[06:41] <bdogg_> hello?
[06:42] <bdogg_> can someone help me out with a really bad graphics problem
[06:43] <bdogg_> ....
[07:11] <b34tls> hey...
[07:11] <b34tls> anyone here?
[07:15] <hobgoblin> !ask
[07:15] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:18] <gasd> ANYONE NOT AFK?
[07:18] <hobgoblin> only if you stop shouting
[07:18] <gasd> lol
[07:18] <gasd> okay
[07:18] <gasd> can any one help me with a graphics problem?
[07:19] <hobgoblin> might be able to - please just ask the question
[07:19] <gasd> okay im using ATI Radeon Xpress 200 on lucid
[07:20] <gasd> i was changing screen savers
[07:20] <gasd> when it crashed on CubeStorm
[07:20] <gasd> i couldnt gain control and i had to do a hard reboot
[07:20] <gasd> when i was logged back in
[07:21] <gasd> the were graphical glithes everywhere
[07:21] <gasd> but only with compiz enabled
[07:21] <gasd> or anything that uses 3D (screensavers)
[07:22] <gasd> and for some reason the screen saver Cubestorm crashes my computer still
[07:22] <gasd> im using opensource drivers by the way
[07:24] <hobgoblin> yea - from what I can see the card is not getting proprietary drivers any longer
[07:25] <gasd> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=168201&d=1283397836
[07:25] <gasd> there's a pic of what it looks like
[07:25] <gasd> yeah but everything was working perfectly fine
[07:25] <gasd> with the open source drivers
[07:25] <gasd> untill the hard reboot
[07:26] <gasd> Compiz still works, its just overlayed with the blocks
[07:27] <hobgoblin> tbh - I rarely have anything to do with ati cards -
[07:28] <hobgoblin> that is what you have now?
[07:28] <gasd> yes
[07:29] <hobgoblin> nice ...
[07:29] <gasd> do you at least know of anyway to like reinstall the drivers
[07:29] <gasd> ppa purge perhaps?
[07:29] <hobgoblin> mmm - to get back to a screen you can see you can try to remove the xorg file from recovery mode and then start again
[07:29] <gasd> im just scared i might mess something up
[07:30] <hobgoblin> were you using a ppa like xorg edgers?
[07:30] <gasd> yup
[07:30] <hobgoblin> mmm
[07:30] <temposs> ohhh, that'll do it
[07:30] <temposs> lol
[07:30] <hobgoblin> boot recovery mode - root terminal
[07:30] <temposs> gasd, sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[07:31] <hobgoblin> then have a go with ppa purge
[07:31] <gasd> okay gonna try the ppa purge first
[07:31] <hobgoblin> if that doesn;t help - recovery mode - root terminal and then     mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.0209
[07:31] <gasd> k
[07:32] <hobgoblin> that whoudl leave you with vesa
[07:34] <gasd> after i purge, can i reinstall xorg edgers
[07:34] <gasd> or should I?
[07:35] <hobgoblin> no idea tbh - not needed to use it
[07:36] <hobgoblin> from what I have seen on the forum some have no issue - others do
[07:36] <gasd> yeah i had no isuee
[07:36] <gasd> *issue
[07:36] <hobgoblin> till now ...
[07:36] <gasd> it was just that damn screen saver
[07:36] <hobgoblin> then I would not use the screensaver
[07:37] <gasd> yeah i really dont know what up with that sceensaver CubeStorm
[07:37] <gasd> because even when compiz is off, it completely freezes my computer
[07:37] <gasd> everyother screensaver runs fine
[07:38] <hobgoblin> well if all that causes the issue is that screensaver - then use another one :)
[07:39] <gasd> yeah i kinda of got that
[07:39] <gasd> lol
[07:39] <hobgoblin> :)
[07:39] <gasd> i was just shufflin through and what do i get? i system breaker -_-
[07:39] <gasd> ppa purge done
[07:40] <hobgoblin> k
[07:40] <gasd> lets hope it worked!
[11:27] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:31] <Post> hello
[11:31] <duanedesign> hello Post
[11:31] <zeroseven0183> Good day Post
[11:31] <Post> thank you
[11:32] <Post> i have problem when i rest my box i got  "the greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to Launch A Different One" how slove it ?
[11:41] <augustk> Post: have you read http://liltux.wordpress.com/2007/09/05/how-to-fix-the-error-the-greeter-application-appears-to-be-crashing-in-ubuntu/
[11:41] <Post> augustk: yes, but i didn't found gdm.conf , i'm using xfce4
[11:42] <augustk> Post: i see, xubuntu?
[11:43] <Post> augustk: hmm, zenwalk :\
[11:43] <Post> root[~]# whereis gdm.conf :gdm: /usr/bin/gdm /usr/sbin/gdm /usr/share/gdm /usr/man/man1/gdm.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/gdm.1.gz
[11:43] <Post> no there in /usr/share/gdm !!
[11:49] <duanedesign> Post: here is the bug report on that issue bug 55566
[11:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 55566 in gdm (Ubuntu) "The greeter application appears to be crashing with "Enable accessible login" (dups: 1) (heat: 2)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55566
[11:50] <Post> duanedesign: hmm, thnx
[11:51] <Post> i will try install backup
[11:52] <duanedesign> Post: have you made any entries in your xorg.conf, like adding a Wacom tablet?
[11:54] <Post> duanedesign: i installed some lib for driver in kernel, and load some driver, and latest install alsa-drive,alsa-lib,alsa-utils, and modprobe the drive to kernel and rest my box got this problem !!
[12:11] <andeval> hello
[12:12] <duanedesign> hello andeval
[12:13] <andeval> is there a linux command like ls switch
[12:13] <andeval> that can show when a file was deleted from a directory
[12:13] <andeval> ie 'last activity inside this folder'
[12:13] <andeval> ..not reallya beginer q..perhaps theres a better place to ask..
[12:21] <duanedesign> andeval: well lets see...
[12:23] <duanedesign> andeval: does the command    ls -la <folder name>
[12:23] <duanedesign> give you the information you need?
[13:10] <duanedesign> andeval: this should get you the date modified:  find /path/to/folder -type d -printf "%t:%p\n"
[14:50] <boywonder> hi, ive compiled a program only now i want to delete it and start again,any help?
[15:02] <geirha> boywonder: Delete the source? Or did you install it and want to uninstall it?
[15:05] <boywonder> i never used make install i dont know how
[15:07] <geirha> You never ran make install? So you just want to clean the source tree?
[15:08] <boywonder> yes because i cant use su on my box i dont know the password
[15:09] <boywonder> what is the command for make install?
[15:14] <geirha> I still don't understand what you're trying to do.
[15:15] <hobgoblin> boywonder: sudo instead of su
[15:15] <geirha> If you don't have administrator privileges, you can't install anything system-wide, though you can install it in your homedir.
[15:16] <boywonder> ok im in confused state lol now i dont know if i installed it because i have used sudo make install
[15:17] <boywonder> im trying to install xchat, so do i need to know a folder where it would be installed
[15:17] <geirha> boywonder: Then you likely installed it under /usr/local
[15:17] <boywonder> ?
[15:17] <boywonder> should it be there a xchat folder
[15:17] <geirha> boywonder: Why are you building xchat? It's in the repositories ...
[15:18] <boywonder> ?
[15:18] <boywonder> i didnt know that
[15:18] <geirha> boywonder: find /usr/local -type f  # see any xchat there?
[15:18] <geirha> Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center -> search for xchat -> install
[15:21] <boywonder> ok but i need to clean my system first,also i installed glib
[15:22] <boywonder> ok im in local
[15:22] <boywonder> ls and theres no xchat
[15:24] <geirha> boywonder: Not ls, find.   ''find /usr/local -type f''
[15:25] <geirha> If you're lucky, running ''sudo make uninstall'' from the same place you ran ''sudo make install'', will undo the install.
[15:26] <boywonder> that command does nothing?
[15:26] <geirha> What command, the find command?
[15:26] <boywonder> yes
[15:26] <geirha> Then you haven't installed anything under /usr/local at least.
[15:27] <geirha> What commands did you run exactly; what options did you pass to ./configure  ?
[15:27] <boywonder> none
[15:27] <geirha> Then it should've defaulted to /usr/local, but since /usr/local is emtpy, you haven't installed anything
[15:28] <geirha> So if you ran sudo make install, it probably failed.
[15:28] <boywonder> probably
[15:30] <boywonder> does that mean i have to do nothing?
[15:30] <boywonder> except use ubuntu software centre to install it?
[15:30] <geirha> Yes, it sounds like you didn't do anything that needs to be cleaned up ;)
[15:31] <boywonder> can i now get rid of glib
[15:31] <geirha> Did you run ./configure without options for glib too?
[15:31] <boywonder> sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-dev
[15:31] <boywonder> yes
[15:32] <geirha> Ah, you installed glib via apt. Good. Then you just need to
[15:32] <geirha> sudo aptitude remove libglib2.0-dev
[15:32] <boywonder> sweet thanks alot
[15:33] <geirha> yw
[15:34] <boywonder> that aced
[15:36] <boywonder> installed now reboot
[15:40] <noder> hey
[15:42] <kedarm> Howdy!
[15:42] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[15:43] <boywonder> thanks alot geirha
[15:43] <kedarm> So, I ended up putting my Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Desktop in Hibernate :(
[15:43] <kedarm> Now, it does not seem to come back to life.
[15:43] <kedarm> I have read horror stories, but any tips you may have?
[15:45] <Silver_Fox_> How up to date was the system kedarm  ?
[15:46] <Silver_Fox_> Possibly related to this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/499940
[15:46] <kedarm> Silver_Fox_: It was pretty up-to-date, but Update Manager did show me some updates which I haven't yet applied.
[15:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 499940 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 5 other projects) "[lucid regression] does not resume from hibernation, restarts fresh (affects: 39) (dups: 3) (heat: 197)" [High,Invalid]
[15:46] <Silver_Fox_> Thought that was was fuxed
[15:46] <Silver_Fox_>   *fixed
[15:46] <kedarm> Silver_Fox_: I have SSD, if that matters.
[15:47] <kedarm> The problem is that since it has grub2 and the only OS is Lucid Lynx, I can't change the boot menu to add additional options, it just goes to Lynx and never boots :(
[15:51] <kedarm> Actually, I have attempted to restart (Ctrl+Alt+Del), but it never comes up. So, basically, I have managed to screw it up completely.
[15:54] <kedarm> Unfortunately, virtual terminals too seem to be defunct :(.
[15:57] <kedarm> Would booting using a USB disk image let me boot it and then recover?
[16:10] <kedarm> So, my "failure to wake up from hibernate" problem is now "just can't boot into Lucid Lynx anymore" problem.
[16:10] <kedarm> Is there anything I can do before reinstalling?
[16:22] <geirha> Hm.
[16:22] <geirha> There's no way to get to the boot-menu in grub2? (I haven't used grub2 much)
[16:27] <kedarm> geirha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 says: The default behavior is to hide the menu if only one operating system is present.
[16:31] <geirha> Ah, but it will wait for a little while, with a blank screen, so you should be able to hit a key at the right point to get to the menu.
[16:52] <harrisonk> If a system crashes because of a program witch log file should I look at?
[16:52] <harrisonk> *whitch
[16:53] <harrisonk> *which
[17:03] <harrisonk> hello?
[17:13] <harrisonk> anyone here?
[17:30] <paultag> harrisonk: heyya
[17:30] <paultag> harrisonk: what's up
[17:37] <Bdogg> can anyone help me with a problem i have with lucid's notify-osd
[17:38] <paultag> Bdogg: depends, what's up
[17:38] <Bdogg> its just that for some reason the corners are sharp instead of rounded
[17:38] <Bdogg> it seem more like a graphical problem
[17:39] <paultag> Bdogg: do you have compositing enabled?
[17:39] <Bdogg> more than a configuration setting
[17:39] <Bdogg> yes
[17:39] <Bdogg> i have a pic
[17:39] <paultag> Bdogg: so "visual effects" are on "high" ?
[17:40] <Bdogg> custom on ccsm
[17:40] <paultag> Bdogg: what's the output of glxinfo | grep direct\ rendering
[17:40] <Bdogg> direct rendering : yes
[17:41] <paultag> Bdogg: can you send that screenshot?
[17:41] <Bdogg> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=167924&d=1283141778
[17:42] <paultag> Pretty rad
[17:43] <paultag> interesting. It's rounding one
[17:43] <paultag> very cool
[17:43] <Bdogg> yeah
[17:43] <Bdogg> lol
[17:43] <Bdogg> i have no idea why or how to fix it
[17:43] <hobgoblin> I remember seeing the thread on the forum - baffled me
[17:44] <paultag> hurmm
[17:44] <paultag> because you can't tweek the default osd stuff
[17:44] <paultag> that's mostly hardcoded from canonical
[17:45] <Bdogg> it was working fine before, untill i changed themes (Ambiance to some other one)
[17:45] <Bdogg> ever since then i get that
[17:46] <paultag> Bdogg: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[17:46] <Bdogg> um how do i do that?
[17:46] <paultag> Bdogg: /join #ubuntu+1
[17:46] <Bdogg> i have no idea how this IRC stuff works
[17:46] <Bdogg> k
[17:54] <sebsebseb> Hi
[17:55] <hobgoblin> afternoon sebsebseb
[17:55] <sebsebseb> hobgoblin: evening or very nearly evening here
[17:56] <hobgoblin> sebsebseb: si - t'is 18:00 here so evening I suppose it is
[17:56] <boywonder> hi how do i go back on directory?
[17:56] <boywonder> on=one
[17:56] <sebsebseb> hobgoblin: yeah is it 6pm now?  my computer clock isn't exactly correct
[17:57] <hobgoblin> boywonder: cd ..
[17:57] <boywonder> aha thanks
[17:57] <hobgoblin> sebsebseb: it is 17:57 on the south coast of england
[17:58] <boywonder> missed it in file and dir commands lol
[17:58] <sebsebseb> hobgoblin: 17:58 now, maybe it is ok then
[17:58] <sebsebseb> hobgoblin: anyway pm, since going a bit off topic here?
[17:58] <hobgoblin> is there a topic?
[17:59] <hobgoblin> boywonder was helped - no-one else about
[18:11] <harrisonk> If a system crashes because of a program which log file should I look at?
[18:18] <boywonder> im wanting to install a c++ compiler,my system says that i already have gcc c compiler installed, can you help on this? also i havnt done any ./configure commands in the past
[18:19] <harrisonk> boywonder: open synaptic and install g++
[18:20] <boywonder> is that the gcc c++ compiler?
[18:26] <boywonder> thanks harrisonk
[18:38] <harrisonk> If a system crashes because of a program which log file should I look at?
[19:09] <john___> I want to try unbuntu. I can buy a Dell where it is preloaded for $400 or save $150 and buy and laptop and load it on. Which way to go? I'm a proficient entreprenerial PHP programmer and need to learn Linux to get a job for that regular income. Thanks.
[19:18] <sardonyx> john___, i'd buy the laptop, ubuntu is really easy to load...
[19:19] <john___> Save the money, got it. So far looks easy. I still have CD around.
[19:19] <geirha> Before you do, though, google "Ubuntu <laptop model>" and/or see if you find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Lucid/Reports
[19:19] <john___> looking...
[19:19] <geirha> The main problem with linux is that many hardware manufacturers don't bother writing drivers for linux
[19:20] <john___> Oh yes, I've heard that. I don't do much else but maybe one day will.
[19:21] <geirha> There's a lot of drivers written by the linux community though, but not every single hardware out there is supported
[19:21] <john___> so that list is of laptops with ubunta?
[19:22] <geirha> People have installed Ubuntu on their laptops, then made a report on what works and what doesn't for their model.
[19:22] <john___> I see, they loaded "Lucid Desktop Live" and checked if it workd.
[19:23] <john___> What ubuntu version am I downloading now?
[19:23] <john___> Desktop edition...
[19:23] <geirha> You should download Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, Lucid Lynx
[19:23] <geirha> Yes, the desktop edition
[19:23] <john___> Okay, I'll look for that one then.
[19:24] <john___> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[19:24] <john___> That is the one I'm downloading. Thanks for your help, by the way!
[19:24] <geirha> It's the newest stable release, so that's the one you'll be downloading unless you specifically select a different one.
[19:30] <Verminator> my USB ports keep going offline, any ideas why or how to fix?  Recently upgraded to 10.04.  lsusb hangs showing nothing.  ps aux|grep usb shows 3 unknown tasks: ksuspend_usbd, usb-storage, usbhid_resumer.
[19:39] <Verminator> in regards to my last post, dmesg also shows no usb device added
[19:50] <WaveUbuntu1> hi
[19:50] <WaveUbuntu1> anybody care to help me install a Ubuntu 10.4 on a dos running laptop :) ?
[20:06] <ishijoe> 1
[20:07] <ishijoe> PLz need help to setup evilwm
[21:20] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[21:23] <ckdoty01> any recomendations for a good but simple FTP server to run on ubuntu 10.04 server?
[22:41] <harrisonk> ckdoty01 still there?