[00:41] <doctormo> paultag: ping
[02:26] <doctormo> paultag: I've been heavily editing starfgpg, it's going to look a bit different if you look at it again.
[02:42] <nhandler> doctormo: What is starfgpg?
[06:22] <jussi> good morning community ppls
[06:49] <nigelb> morning jussi
[08:00] <huats> morning
[08:14] <kim0> morning everyone
[08:58] <nigelb> morning huats, kim0 :)
[09:02] <huats> morning nigelb
[09:05] <kim0> things are too quite today :)
[09:58] <czajkowski> aloha folks
[10:03] <nigelb> morning czajkowski
[10:03] <nigelb> hello dol
[10:03] <nigelb> hell dholbach, randa
[10:03] <dholbach> HELL!
[10:03] <randa> hi all
[10:03] <nigelb> gah, dhol came out as dol :p
[10:03] <dholbach> hey czajkowski, hi randa, hi nigelb
[10:03] <nigelb> dholbach: was that meant to be 'HELLO!'? :p
[10:04] <vish> nigelb: he was commenting about your "hell" ;p
[10:04] <vish> replying rather..
[10:04] <nigelb> gah, spell mess for me today
[10:04]  * AlanBell passes nigelb a new keyboard
[10:04] <nigelb> I wish irssi had a spellcheck
[10:05] <AlanBell> there will be a .pl for that
[10:05] <czajkowski> nigelb: you can add an plugin for it
[10:05] <nigelb> oh, then i need it badly
[10:05]  * nigelb goes looking for it
[10:23] <AlanBell> https://uds.ubuntu.com/
[10:23] <AlanBell> does that seem to be full of ssl fail?
[10:23] <AlanBell> http://uds.ubuntu.com/ works fine
[11:17] <jussi> AlanBell: ssl fail here
[11:27] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:07] <doctormo> nhandler: It's a library for talking to pgp key management in python.
[13:08] <doctormo> Aloha czajkowski
[13:08] <czajkowski> doctormo: hi
[13:09] <doctormo> Are you scheduling the opportunistic/new developer week?
[13:12] <czajkowski> nothing to do with me :)
[13:28] <Pendulum> doctormo: talk to akgraner
[14:24] <doctormo> paultag: ping
[14:38] <nigelb> I dunno how many of you folks have noticed http://ubuntuupdates.org/about, but it looks nice
[14:53] <nhandler> nigelb: I stumbled across that a few weeks ago. It is interesting, just not something I personally needed
[14:53] <nigelb> nhandler: same here :)
[14:54] <nigelb> It looks interesting when you're running maverick and want to know when its safe to click 'upgrade' :p
[15:03] <duanedesign> nigelb: pretty neat, thanks for the linky
[15:06] <czajkowski> nhandler: so wonder how many we get this month! care to pick a random number and see who gets closest to it
[15:07] <nigelb> duanedesign: :)
[15:13] <nhandler> czajkowski: I'm going to go with 35
[15:14]  * nhandler really needs to write up some formatting guidelines for team reports
[15:15] <czajkowski> nhandler: I wish... I'm gonna say 28
[15:16] <nhandler> czajkowski: My guess included all teams, not just LoCos
[15:16] <czajkowski> nhandler: ahhhhh
[15:16] <czajkowski> no I'm gonna say 28 loco teams we had 17 last month.
[15:17] <czajkowski> lovely just got asked can I pop in for an interview in Toronto, clearly didnt read the cover letter saying looking to RELOCATE to Canada, CURRENTLY living in IRELAND
[15:20] <nigelb> lol
[15:20] <nigelb> czajkowski: send a mail back asking if they can spare some traveling expense :D
[15:20] <nigelb> you don't need visa anyway I think
[15:21] <doctormo> wavered
[15:21] <nigelb> yes, lucky.  I envy you folks.
[15:21] <czajkowski> nigelb: aye no visa,  tis kinda handy alright
[15:22] <nigelb> czajkowski: /very/ handy.
[15:23] <czajkowski> yup
[15:24] <czajkowski> todays RANT :
[15:24] <czajkowski> €625 for 100 t-shirts with logos having to be all one colour is not really what I want :( Womens T-shirts cost an more than €0.75 cent extra per T than mens T due to not being ordered as much and costs more to get them in....
[15:25] <nigelb> :/
[15:28] <JFo> czajkowski, that sucks
[15:29] <czajkowski> JFo: indeed
[15:53] <doctormo> czajkowski: That sounds expensive, it's about $4.20 here in the us for prints in bulk.
[15:53] <czajkowski> welcome to ireland
[15:53] <czajkowski> :(
[15:53] <czajkowski> one of the most expensives places in the EU and we;re in a recession funninly enough
[15:53]  * czajkowski mutters
[15:53] <nigelb> lol
[15:54] <doctormo> czajkowski: So this would be that non-deflation that should be happening?
[15:54] <doctormo>  heh
[15:54] <Technoviking> popey: ping
[15:55] <popey> Technoviking: pong
[15:55] <czajkowski> doctormo: thats the guy saying he's reduced his costs!
[15:55] <czajkowski> Already!
[15:56] <Technoviking> popey: just listen to the lastest uupc, do you remember what forum post was about the usb mouse/keyboard issue
[15:56] <Technoviking> want to make sure they filed a bug
[15:57] <doctormo> Technoviking: Isn't that the usb issue where the usb stack pops off and shuts down the usb ports hardware.
[15:57] <popey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787
[15:58] <popey> 51 pages of waffle
[15:58] <nigelb> dholbach: that photo is downright scary :p
[15:58] <nigelb> but then my old passport photo is even /more/ scarier
[15:59] <nigelb> s/scarier/scary
[15:59] <AlanBell> popey: funny thing is, it is actually 96 pages
[16:00] <popey> *shudder*
[16:00] <popey> if i logon it will be less
[16:00] <popey> i have mine set to no avatars and lots of posts per page
[16:00] <popey> but i am not on my main pc atm
[16:00] <Technoviking> a bug was filed, page 3
[16:01] <czajkowski> and they still waffled
[16:01] <nigelb> popey: 956 posts, lets fix on something that is better countable :D
[16:01] <popey> this is why i hate forums :)
[16:01] <Technoviking> not as much as we hate you ;P
[16:01] <popey> haha
[16:02] <popey> \o/ mutual hatred
[16:02] <popey> It's the Ubuntu way.
[16:02] <czajkowski> feel the love guys
[16:02] <nigelb> lol
[16:02] <AlanBell> popey: but a *lot* of people do like them
[16:02]  * nigelb isn't a fan of forums either
[16:02] <Technoviking> Popey, you nazi (Godwin FTW!!!)
[16:02] <nigelb> but SE seems okay
[16:02] <popey> a lot of people like Justin Bieber
[16:02] <popey> doesn't mean I have to
[16:02] <nigelb> lol
[16:02]  * nigelb ^5 popey 
[16:02] <nigelb> good one!
[16:03] <Technoviking> popey: I'm going to the dark side soon
[16:03] <popey> You're buying a Mac?
[16:03] <nigelb> Technoviking: fedora?
[16:03] <popey> or joining a mailing list?
[16:03]  * AlanBell doesn't like Forums much
[16:03] <czajkowski> Technoviking: your joining IRC ops ?
[16:03] <Technoviking> popey: getting a macbook pro
[16:03] <popey> not sure I can share a room with you at UDS if you use fedora
[16:03] <popey> oh, we can share! macbook twins
[16:03] <nigelb> lol
[16:03] <popey> i shared with daviey at the last uds, we had identical laptops
[16:03] <popey> that was fun
[16:03] <Technoviking> lol
[16:04] <popey> but not in a weird way you understand
[16:04] <Technoviking> I'm getting the 15"
[16:04] <nigelb> popey: you can to boot to make out which is whose?
[16:04] <popey> :)
[16:04] <nigelb> s/can/had
[16:04] <vish> popey: there is a thread about conky.. which was more than 200 pages the last time i saw it ;)
[16:04] <vish> that was 6months ago...
[16:04]  * AlanBell might get one of those multi touchy feely things
[16:04] <Technoviking> vish: the conky thread rules
[16:05] <vish> Technoviking: how big is it now?
[16:05]  * vish ckecks
[16:05] <nigelb> vish: eww 200 pages of forum?
[16:05] <nigelb> dinner time and back2work, later folks :)
[16:07] <duanedesign> oh boy, just in time for forum bashing :\
[16:07]  * duanedesign shakes fist at nigelb :)
[16:08]  * nigelb points duanedesign to popey's example with Justin Bieber
[16:09] <vish> oh, wait its no 1001 pages!
[16:09] <vish> now*
[16:09] <vish> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[16:09] <nigelb> OMG
[16:09] <duanedesign> yes but i dont work hard on Justin Bieber ;)
[16:10] <vish> hmm,  correction , make that 1375!!!!
[16:10]  * duanedesign googles Justin Beiber, lol
[16:11]  * nigelb duanedesign still has some hope if he's googling Justin Bieber
[16:11]  * nigelb notes rather
[16:11] <Technoviking> Ubuntu needs a Justin Bieber wallpaper for April 1st next year:)
[16:12] <nigelb> lol
[16:12] <nigelb> ok, dinner for real now :)
[16:12] <vish> Technoviking: why was that conky thread merged like that?  do the forums staff hate conky? ;)
[16:13] <duanedesign> nigelb: i am still unsure who he is :P I guess i dont have my finger on the pulse of what is popular
[16:17] <Technoviking> vish: I don't think we merged it
[16:17] <Technoviking> I use conky all the time
[16:20] <duanedesign> Technoviking: i have been playing with the Lua Scripts in Conky
[16:20] <Technoviking> duanedesign: not much
[16:29] <Technoviking> do I need to get the gwibber daily build to use Twitter now?
[16:29] <czajkowski> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/09/02/the-motivational-drivers-and-barriers-of-volunteers-in-open-source-communities-part-2/
[16:31] <nigelb> Technoviking: yes
[16:40] <duanedesign> czajkowski: great post.
[16:41] <czajkowski> duanedesign: really interesting watch someone who knows diddly about the community now understand it
[16:41] <czajkowski> been an interesting few months via email
[16:41] <czajkowski> the whole IRC/Mailing lists/ Forums and wiki pages were all new
[16:41] <czajkowski> reading the thesis now
[16:43] <duanedesign> czajkowski: that is really cool
[16:44] <duanedesign> off to do non computer stuff. Everyone have a pleasant day :)  o/
[17:36] <nigelb> jono: got a moment?
[17:37] <AlanBell> jono: ssl fail https://uds.ubuntu.com/
[17:38] <vish> does fedora have something similar to our COC?
[17:38] <nigelb> vish: only we have something at all
[17:38] <nigelb> afaik
[17:38] <vish> just wondering since  http://planet.fedoraproject.org/  third post!
[17:38] <vish> that seems deleted in the main blog..
[17:38] <nigelb> vish: speaking of which, did you see marin's post about updates?
[17:39]  * nigelb may have missed an 'a' in spelling
[17:39] <vish> hmm.. not sure which
[17:39] <vish> nah, i was wondering about the COC , because someone seems to have insisted on the author to remove it.. they might probably have one..
[17:40] <nigelb> the planet probably has rules
[17:40] <nigelb> just like we do
[17:40] <vish> no, his main blog article is gone
[17:40] <nigelb> vish: http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/
[17:40] <vish> pretty sure, the author would not have deleted on his own after taking the time to do so much work.. ;)
[17:41] <vish> nigelb: yeah, seen that
[17:41] <nigelb> vish: ah, yes.  then its just delay from planet sync
[17:41] <czajkowski> vish: that post is removed off that persons blog
[17:41] <czajkowski> just not off the planet it seems
[17:42] <nigelb> http://dinosaur-os.com/post/1053912414
[17:42] <vish> czajkowski: yeah , thats why i was wondering why..  :)  [planet might be async..]
[17:42] <czajkowski> vish: the guy has also written an aplogy on his site
[17:42] <nigelb> vish, czajkowski ^^
[17:43] <vish> hmm,  a failed joke :)
[17:46]  * nigelb would quote popey here, "One person's words and actions doesn't represent the entire community."
[17:47] <czajkowski> nigelb: think the fedorda users are saying as much on their planet
[17:47] <nigelb> czajkowski: yep, noted
[17:48] <paultag> nigelb: what trouble are you causing now?
[17:48] <nigelb> paultag: http://planet.fedoraproject.org/
[17:48] <nigelb> checkout third post
[17:49] <nigelb> paultag: 6th rather
[17:49] <paultag> so... what?
[17:49] <paultag> let them have their fun
[17:49] <nigelb> paultag: fedora equivalent of neckbeard.com :p
[17:49] <paultag> nigelb: y'thnk?
[17:50] <nigelb> close to at least
[17:50] <paultag> nigelb: neckbeard was all about Ubuntu, not Fedora
[17:50] <paultag> nigelb: this is about Ubuntu in Fedora
[17:50] <paultag> so it's a respect thing
[17:50] <nigelb> hrm, true :)
[17:50] <paultag> but let them have fun. No sense in handling this like that guy.
[17:51] <popey> meh
[17:51]  * nigelb back2work
[17:51] <popey> move along, nothing to see here
[17:51] <nigelb> heh
[17:51] <paultag> Ubuntu's desktop market share has grown faster then the Linux market share
[17:51] <paultag> that means more old linux users are moving to Ubuntu
[17:51] <paultag> so we know who's really winning ;)
[17:51] <paultag> +1 popey
[17:51] <paultag> It's of no importance at all
[17:52] <popey> the only thing that bothers me is that the CD could have gone to someone who needed it. Bit of a waste
[17:52] <popey> but hey ho, we have thousands more ;)
[17:52] <paultag> popey: it was 8.10, no big deal
[17:52] <paultag> erm, 9.04
[17:52] <paultag> I think
[17:52] <popey> hah
[17:52] <nigelb> 9.10
[17:52] <popey> it was 9.04
[17:52] <paultag> yeah 9.04
[17:52] <paultag> 9.10 is orange
[17:52]  * nigelb looks again.
[17:52] <nigelb> Ag
[17:52] <popey> it has 9.04 written on it too :D
[17:52] <nigelb> Ah
[18:07] <Technoviking> popey: get my macbook pro power adapter, but lappy is still on back order.
[18:07] <popey> hah
[18:08] <popey> you can practice coiling the cable up
[18:08] <popey> and uncoiling it again
[18:09] <Technoviking> popey: lol, or pretend to type on a invisible laptop
[18:23] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day and see you tomorrow!
[18:27] <czajkowski> http://www.learninghub.ie/  all the pcs here are now running Ubuntu here in Limerick
[18:41] <jcastro> hi everyone!
[18:42] <AlanBell> o/ jcastro
[18:43] <czajkowski> jcastro: whoo welcome back
[18:43] <jcastro> not back, just saying hi. :)
[18:43] <czajkowski> jcastro: hows the holiday ?
[18:43] <jcastro> good good
[18:43] <jcastro> mexico is awesome
[18:43] <jcastro> I am burnt. :)
[18:44] <czajkowski> jcastro: how on earth do you burn!
[18:44] <czajkowski> loonatic
[18:44] <jcastro> I know right?
[18:44] <vish> hehe!
[18:44] <jcastro> I even used SPF50!
[18:44] <czajkowski> that's odd
[18:44] <vish> hmm , community someone or the other wants to take a vacation ;p
[18:45] <vish> now, jcastro is aways , next week no dholbach..  :(
[18:45] <JFo> czajkowski, he's pasty and white for a mexican ;)
[18:45] <vish> away*
[18:45] <JFo> jcastro, :-P
[18:45] <jcastro> hah
[18:45] <czajkowski> jcastro: the place looked fab is it as nice ?
[18:45] <jcastro> man, I missed the  twitter oauthpocalypse
[18:45] <czajkowski> JFo: you do have a way with words!
[18:45] <jcastro> after months of build up
[18:45] <JFo> czajkowski, :)
[18:45] <vish> and songs ..
[18:46] <czajkowski> vish: shhhrup
[18:46] <czajkowski> don't encourage the fecker
[18:46]  * JFo hugs jcastro and slaps him heartily on the back
[18:46] <vish> :D
[18:46] <JFo> vish, :)
[18:46] <jcastro> JFo: my back is a peely mess
[18:46] <JFo> eww
[18:46] <czajkowski> jcastro: I hope you minded the ink!!!
[18:46]  * JFo washes his hands
[18:46] <jcastro> czajkowski: for sure
[18:46] <jcastro> I went through like tubes of aloe
[18:47] <jcastro> it looks way better when surrounded by tan skin, it looks more real
[18:48] <nigelb> jcastro: you're back?
[18:48] <nigelb> \o/
[18:49] <jcastro> nigelb: I am not back until tuesday
[18:49] <jcastro> I JUST MISSED YOU ALL SO MUCH I THOUGHT I WOULD SAY HI
[18:49] <nigelb> jcastro: you just couldn't stay off irc could you :p
[18:49] <jcastro> and slap JFo around with a large trout
[18:49] <vish> nigelb: community team is playing tag!.. ;p
[18:49] <nigelb> awwww
[18:49] <Technoviking> jcastro: awwww
[18:49] <Technoviking> lol
[18:49] <JFo> gah!
[18:50] <JFo> jcastro, I'd like to introduce you to my friend... he is an halibut.
[18:50] <nigelb> jcastro: did you hear the song?
[18:50] <JFo> heh
[18:51] <vish> czajkowski: ^^ nigelb's doing it again ;)
[18:51] <JFo> nigelb, he has not heard the song
[18:51]  * JFo has corrupted nigelb 
[18:51] <nigelb> vish: every time I see JFo I get reminded of it :x
[18:51] <JFo> heh
[18:51] <nigelb> JFo: indeed, you have
[19:38] <vish> JFo: jono: http://jeffreystedfast.blogspot.com/2010/09/microsoft-double-rainbow.html ;)
[19:39] <vish> what does it mean!!
[19:44] <jono> vish, lol
[19:59] <doctormo> paultag: ping
[20:01] <paultag> doctormo: pong
[20:02] <doctormo> paultag: After much research, I'm shutting down project starfish, it's not possible to do what we need to do with pyme/libgpgme without photo id support.
[20:02] <doctormo> And it doesn't look like we have many options.
[20:03] <doctormo> Although interestingly seahorse devs decided to just fork gpgme and consume it into their codebase.
[20:04] <paultag> doctormo: OK
[20:04] <paultag> doctormo: ask LP to blow away the project after the teams are gone :)
[20:04] <doctormo> paultag: No point is blowing it away, just deactivating.
[20:05] <paultag> doctormo: OK
[20:08] <nigelb> vish: lol, more people are corrupt :p
[20:43] <JFo> nigelb, you still dooing ubuntu-classroom stuff?
[20:44] <nigelb> JFo: yep :)
[20:44]  * nigelb and a bunch of others 
[20:44] <JFo> cool, is it possible to get some stuff on the cal for next Sat?
[20:44]  * nigelb pokes pleia2 
[20:44] <JFo> I meant to get this to you guys before now
[20:44]  * JFo has been swamped
[20:44] <nigelb> JFo: title and time?
[20:45] <JFo> This is for the Kernel Triage Summit
[20:45] <nigelb> I'll find someone to add to the calender :)
[20:45] <nigelb> You have a bunch of sessions?
[20:45] <JFo> 1400-1800 UTC
[20:45] <JFo> no, just 4 I beleive
[20:45] <nigelb> one sesion?
[20:45] <nigelb> can you get me name of session and irc nick of instructor?
[20:46] <nigelb> JFo: join #ubuntu-classroom-backstage :)
[20:46] <JFo> sure
[21:24] <Technoviking> popey and pleia2: ping
[21:24]  * popey hugs Technoviking 
[21:25] <czajkowski> got yer team report done CC :)
[21:26] <Technoviking> popey: the CC is now owner of most other boards and council in LP? irc, membership
[21:34] <popey> uhm
[21:34] <popey> think so
[21:35] <Technoviking> need to transer ownership from Ryan to the CC for the FC launchpad page
[21:36] <popey> ahhh
[21:36] <popey> makes sense