| thorwil | flan, nisshh, vish: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/cb9b56043d6a15f0c3e3cef29f89b63b | 11:15 |
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| vish | thorwil: interesting.. but i seem to have forgotten what we wanted for quickshot.. | 11:26 |
| vish | an icon? | 11:26 |
| * vish should stop being everywhere , and start to FOCUS! :( | 11:28 | |
| thorwil | vish: well, this is an icon ;) | 11:49 |
| thorwil | vish: why? it feels familiar everywhere because you are already there!! | 11:49 |
| vish | ;p | 11:49 |
| nisshh | thorwil: whats that picture about? | 13:03 |
| thorwil | nisshh: i could bet you saw a draft, that you would have to ask puzzles me | 13:04 |
| nisshh | thorwil: im talking about the link you pinged me about 2 hours ago | 13:05 |
| nisshh | i was afk | 13:05 |
| thorwil | nisshh: quickshot icon | 13:08 |
| nisshh | thorwil: ah, ok | 13:09 |
| flan | Works for me, thorwil. | 15:12 |
| thorwil | cool | 15:12 |
| flan | Once you've finalized it, can I get a favicon version, too? (It can probably be the samea s the icon for window managers) | 15:13 |
| === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar | ||
| flan | I can just generate one myself from the full-size reference, if needed, though. | 15:14 |
| flan | Oh. And the server needs a logo. It could, if this is aesthetically acceptable to you, be that, with "Quickshot" written in a neutral font to the right. Maybe. (I dunno. I'm not a designer) | 15:15 |
| flan | http://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump/10-04 Just something to sit in the top left corner so it doesn't seem so bland. | 15:15 |
| flan | I'll be tweaking the CSS based on feedback from users during the Maverick run, so the colours and sizing aren't finalized or anything. | 15:16 |
| thorwil | ok | 15:17 |
| daker | godbyk, ping | 16:36 |
| jenkins | hey flan | 19:06 |
| flan | Hi. | 19:06 |
| jenkins | am i ok to push stuff to the branch | 19:06 |
| flan | Yep. I won't be making any changes until I get home anyway. | 19:07 |
| flan | And, even if I were, I could just pull before committing. | 19:07 |
| flan | You shouldn't ever need to ask. | 19:07 |
| flan | Oh. I've got someone who's willing to help rewrite and test the library functions. | 19:07 |
| jenkins | cool who? | 19:08 |
| flan | So I'll probably invite him to join until we're at 1.0. | 19:08 |
| flan | Just a friend I know from other venues. He's new to Python, but he's pretty meticulous about quality. | 19:08 |
| jenkins | ok cool sounds good | 19:09 |
| flan | He's just gonna write the user-status-screening and WM-integration stuff while I work on the UI-to-library bindings and event logic. | 19:09 |
| flan | While you work on the layout and appearance stuff. | 19:09 |
| thorwil | jenkins: hi! http://www.foopics.com/showfull/cb9b56043d6a15f0c3e3cef29f89b63b | 19:10 |
| jenkins | thorwil: looks great! can we play with the back ground colours? 3 different ones may be | 19:10 |
| jenkins | be back in 10 mins being called to dry up | 19:11 |
| thorwil | jenkins: ty. better not. i think of the 3 shots as being in one series, so theme doesn't change, just windows | 19:12 |
| flan | Ia gree. | 19:13 |
| flan | Iagr ee. | 19:13 |
| jenkins | k makes sense | 19:14 |
| jenkins | but can you make the arrows and the camera more distinct? | 19:15 |
| jenkins | I am really pleased with thoses thorwil | 19:15 |
| thorwil | jenkins: i could. maybe i will. though i made them subtle to not distract and also because the smaller sizes don't have those details at all | 19:16 |
| jenkins | I see your point it, I think it depends on the angle of my laptop screen, I will print it out tomorrow and have a look. | 19:18 |
| jenkins | can you e-mail/put in the branch a 48px one please ? | 19:19 |
| flan | Are we replacing the existing logo with this one? Or using them side-by-side? | 19:19 |
| flan | (The existing one is heavily pro-Ubuntu, but it *is* pretty) | 19:20 |
| flan | (This one is nice and neutral and clean) | 19:20 |
| jenkins | I think this is the icon not a logo . iirc | 19:22 |
| flan | Sorry. That's what I meant to imply by "side-by-side". | 19:22 |
| jenkins | well we need to come up with a logo basically | 19:22 |
| thorwil | jenkins: https://code.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/quickshot_art | 19:24 |
| jenkins | thanks thorwil | 19:26 |
| jenkins | pidgin crashed | 19:26 |
| jenkins | flan: how do i get a url to appear like the one here imagebin.org/112417 | 19:39 |
| jenkins | http://http://imagebin.org/112417 | 19:39 |
| jenkins | http://imagebin.org/112417 | 19:40 |
| flan | http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtklinkbutton.html | 19:40 |
| flan | Glade should have it in its toolbox. | 19:40 |
| flan | Note that the project's URL will not always be displayable. | 19:41 |
| flan | And there may be up to three URLs. | 19:41 |
| flan | How you present them is up to you. | 19:41 |
| flan | (If you even want to present all of them) | 19:41 |
| flan | Quickshot project URL (not exposed if the project isn't public), version homepage (may not be defined), project homepage (may not be defined) | 19:42 |
| jenkins | I thought I would just but quickshot.org there? | 19:42 |
| flan | Oh. Yes, you can do that, too. | 19:42 |
| jenkins | thanks flan i had found that button but not the setting to make it look like a noraml window but have now | 19:43 |
| flan | Where are you packing it? (On the welcome screen, I presume, but where?) | 19:44 |
| jenkins | i am doing the about window :P the most un important one | 19:45 |
| flan | As fro project/progress URLs, just give me a vbox on the screenshot-list window with two panels in it. I'll rip them out and put URLs in their place, if they're defined. | 19:45 |
| flan | Ah. | 19:45 |
| flan | That works. | 19:45 |
| flan | Rip them out in code* | 19:46 |
| flan | Part of the reason why GTK's box model is so useful. | 19:46 |
| flan | And why I'll nag you about the importance of using it to group related content. | 19:46 |
| jenkins | I know its not an important window but I had the urge to do it. I saw your changes and I can see why it makes sense | 19:46 |
| === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-lunch | ||
| flan | The about window is important. | 19:47 |
| flan | It's just not crucial. | 19:47 |
| jenkins | I will do the resolution ones as well just can't decide on how to improve over last time | 19:48 |
| flan | Embed the progress bar in the page itself. | 19:48 |
| flan | Instead of making a pop-up. | 19:48 |
| flan | Just put a GTK progress bar in it (one of the "I dunno how long this'll take" ones. | 19:48 |
| flan | We can show it dynamically once the process begins. | 19:49 |
| flan | Assuming the process takes long enough to warrant the use of the bar. | 19:49 |
| flan | I can't remember if it was fast or slow before. | 19:49 |
| flan | In any case, it's basically just going to say "This project, <name>, requires that screenshots are captured at a resolution of XxY. Something, something. We change things now!" | 19:51 |
| flan | Oh. I remember what the delay was. | 19:51 |
| flan | Installing disper. | 19:51 |
| flan | Are we making that a dependency of the .deb to avoid it? | 19:51 |
| jenkins | it was slow last time but it will be fast as I have changed the way the graphics driver is detected. i would like to make it a dependency | 19:51 |
| flan | Until we can look at its code and find the right stuff to run ourselves. | 19:51 |
| jenkins | yep | 19:52 |
| flan | If it's fast, no progress bar. | 19:52 |
| flan | See if you can prototype that window and the user details window by the end of today. I'll try to get the UI flow advancing to the screenshot list. | 19:53 |
| jenkins | that window is there already | 19:53 |
| flan | I mean so that it has only the buttons and stuff that we need. | 19:53 |
| flan | It's kinda hard to go back once that point's been passed. | 19:54 |
| jenkins | and the screenshot list one is done and the screenshot detail one | 19:54 |
| flan | It really just has "Okay" and "Bail". | 19:54 |
| jenkins | I wil adjust them | 19:54 |
| flan | Screenshot details may get some tweaking once I get there, since there are more/different/stuff options than before. I won't get to it until this weekend, though, so we can probably discuss changes and work on its pieces concurrently. | 19:55 |
| jenkins | http://imagebin.org/112420 is what I was going to use for the user to comfirm that the change has been made correctly so it is standard gnome stuff. | 19:55 |
| jenkins | cool sounds good | 19:55 |
| flan | Same with the username-change. Once the user's been created, Quickshot will have to close before the user can continue. It's a window that kinda creates a dead end if it ever appears. | 19:56 |
| flan | Looks good. | 19:56 |
| flan | Probably just tweak the wrap-points. | 19:56 |
| flan | But I like it. | 19:56 |
| flan | Is Maverick going with orange to indicate active buttons? | 19:56 |
| jenkins | yep | 19:56 |
| flan | active/selected/default | 19:57 |
| flan | Kinda ugly, but whatever. | 19:57 |
| * flan isn't an art guy. | 19:57 | |
| flan | Wait... Wait... | 19:57 |
| flan | Is that dock standard? | 19:57 |
| jenkins | no thats awn | 19:58 |
| flan | 'Kay. | 19:58 |
| flan | The dock is one of the things I like least about using my Mac. | 19:58 |
| flan | (Not because it's impractical, but because it's an inefficient use of space) | 19:59 |
| jenkins | i auto hide it | 19:59 |
| flan | Same. | 19:59 |
| Muscovy | I like to switch between dock and window buttons every few months. | 19:59 |
| flan | But then I lose the ability to see what I have open at a glance. | 19:59 |
| Muscovy | Docks are better for when I'm working with a lot of applications, I find. | 19:59 |
| flan | It's a very intuitive design, but it's not well-suited to my mindset. | 20:00 |
| Muscovy | You seen Gnome 3 yet? :P | 20:00 |
| flan | I've been avoiding it. | 20:00 |
| Muscovy | I've been using it, after I got over my initial shock. | 20:00 |
| flan | I mean I've been avoiding all news of it. | 20:01 |
| flan | I want to be surprised. | 20:01 |
| Muscovy | Ah. XD | 20:01 |
| thorwil | flan, jenkins: playing around with logo ideas: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/456df83df6c2d6df882e2af8261ba970 | 20:01 |
| Muscovy | I won't spoil it then. | 20:01 |
| Muscovy | Those are neat logos. | 20:01 |
| Muscovy | I like the first and third. | 20:01 |
| jenkins | I like the third one :) | 20:01 |
| flan | The second one's brilliant, but I'd go with the third. | 20:02 |
| jenkins | I can't decide on gnome 3 I am waiting untill it is nearer reles | 20:02 |
| jenkins | *release | 20:02 |
| jenkins | third one has got me excited | 20:03 |
| thorwil | ok, so i will tweak the 3rd on another day | 20:03 |
| flan | The second'd be my pick if it weren't just a tad too subtle. | 20:03 |
| flan | But I can't see a way to un-subtle it. | 20:04 |
| flan | Short of moving the hybrid to the right. | 20:04 |
| thorwil | using 2 colors and no split on the S should help the 2nd | 20:05 |
| flan | Yeah... that might work. | 20:06 |
| flan | Except it'd be three colours, wouldn't it? | 20:06 |
| flan | Unless the Q becomes an outline. | 20:07 |
| daker | flan, ping | 21:14 |
| flan | Hi. | 21:45 |
| flan | daker, pong. | 21:45 |
| Muscovy | What's with the pingpongs? | 21:46 |
| daker | it's fine, just want to ask question how we can login to qs board | 21:46 |
| daker | so i used my lp openid | 21:47 |
| flan | I'd just need to add you as a project owner. | 21:47 |
| flan | I'll add everyone who's interested after I reset the database. | 21:47 |
| flan | (In preparation for 10.10) | 21:47 |
| daker | we should ask humphreybc to design something for the qs board | 21:48 |
| flan | Wait... Which board? | 21:48 |
| flan | I thought you meant my staging site. | 21:48 |
| flan | Which will probably be used for the next manual release. | 21:48 |
| daker | yes | 21:49 |
| flan | (I doubt I'll be ready to hand it to godbyk until after 1.0.0) | 21:49 |
| daker | & for other projects :) | 21:49 |
| flan | There's not really much to design... It's a backend to the client. | 21:49 |
| flan | Again, it's not intended for public perusal. | 21:49 |
| flan | It's just meant for administrators to approve and download screenshots. | 21:49 |
| daker | ah oki | 21:50 |
| flan | It's a very utilitarian concept. | 21:50 |
| flan | The quickshot.org page will be a lot more general-user-oriented. | 21:50 |
| daker | but it's should provide other things | 21:50 |
| flan | My server's basically justa glorified database with a special protocol. | 21:50 |
| daker | project activity, how many screenshot has been taken by hour, by day for each user | 21:51 |
| flan | ...But why? It's not a social networking system. | 21:52 |
| flan | It's just a filesystem + database, intended to facilitate the execution of a task. | 21:52 |
| flan | Can you identify a benefit of indicating project activity levels? | 21:53 |
| daker | i don't know it's just an idea :) | 21:54 |
| daker | if i understand what you said, the stagging site will be just a backend for the projects owners ? | 21:57 |
| === mrjazzcat-lunch is now known as mrjazzcat | ||
| flan | Yep. | 21:58 |
| flan | It'll have some degree of public visibility, but only as much as is needed for people to decide which languages need their attention. | 21:58 |
| flan | And then only if the project is public. | 21:58 |
| flan | For all we know, someone might set up a project to so they have a checklist of things they need to capture for a school project. | 21:59 |
| flan | just so* | 21:59 |
| daker | i understand | 21:59 |
| flan | Whatever you see at http://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump/10-04 is about as much as I can imagine a contributor ever needing to see. | 22:00 |
| flan | The system is flexible, so we can add more later. | 22:00 |
| flan | But, from my ancient mindset of minimalism-is-good-so-build-stuff-as-a-component-that-can-be-harnessed-by-other-stuff, this seems like the right way to do things. | 22:01 |
| flan | An aggregator, like the quickshot.org site, can get enough information from the backend servers to calculate activity levels, general rates of completion, and user helpfulness to display it in a more engaging manner. | 22:02 |
| flan | The quickshot.org site won't need to host any of the data itself, aside from deltas, because it's essentially all offered as a service by any known suppliers. | 22:02 |
| flan | The backends retain their one simple purpose, the aggregators layer on top of them, and then a super-aggregator could be built on top of the aggregators. | 22:03 |
| * flan likes layers. | 22:03 | |
| flan | Note: Suppliers of information could be resolved by indexing/scanning the .qsproj files that are submitted to the site's bulletin board. The model's design allows for easy information-scraping. | 22:06 |
| flan | (I don't like proprietary or undiscoverable anything) | 22:06 |
| flan | </rant? | 22:07 |
| jenkins | flan: please let me know what else you would like me to do tomorrow night | 22:08 |
| flan | Can do. Mostly, it's just a matter of getting the usability logic of the GUIs out of the way. | 22:08 |
| jenkins | please make a list and I will do anything needed | 22:09 |
| flan | Then (re)building the basic libraries behind them (which is what Wetbox^3 will help me with), and then binding everything together (which is what I'll do). | 22:09 |
| flan | I'll just keep memo-spamming you. | 22:09 |
| jenkins | yep sounds good spam! | 22:09 |
| flan | Yay for spam! | 22:09 |
| flan | G'night~ | 22:09 |
| jenkins | thnaks flan night | 22:10 |
| === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-afk | ||
| daker | dutchie, ping | 22:58 |
| === mrjazzcat-afk is now known as mrjazzcat | ||
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