[11:15] flan, nisshh, vish: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/cb9b56043d6a15f0c3e3cef29f89b63b [11:26] thorwil: interesting.. but i seem to have forgotten what we wanted for quickshot.. [11:26] an icon? [11:28] * vish should stop being everywhere , and start to FOCUS! :( [11:49] vish: well, this is an icon ;) [11:49] vish: why? it feels familiar everywhere because you are already there!! [11:49] ;p [13:03] thorwil: whats that picture about? [13:04] nisshh: i could bet you saw a draft, that you would have to ask puzzles me [13:05] thorwil: im talking about the link you pinged me about 2 hours ago [13:05] i was afk [13:08] nisshh: quickshot icon [13:09] thorwil: ah, ok [15:12] Works for me, thorwil. [15:12] cool [15:13] Once you've finalized it, can I get a favicon version, too? (It can probably be the samea s the icon for window managers) === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [15:14] I can just generate one myself from the full-size reference, if needed, though. [15:15] Oh. And the server needs a logo. It could, if this is aesthetically acceptable to you, be that, with "Quickshot" written in a neutral font to the right. Maybe. (I dunno. I'm not a designer) [15:15] http://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump/10-04 Just something to sit in the top left corner so it doesn't seem so bland. [15:16] I'll be tweaking the CSS based on feedback from users during the Maverick run, so the colours and sizing aren't finalized or anything. [15:17] ok [16:36] godbyk, ping [19:06] hey flan [19:06] Hi. [19:06] am i ok to push stuff to the branch [19:07] Yep. I won't be making any changes until I get home anyway. [19:07] And, even if I were, I could just pull before committing. [19:07] You shouldn't ever need to ask. [19:07] Oh. I've got someone who's willing to help rewrite and test the library functions. [19:08] cool who? [19:08] So I'll probably invite him to join until we're at 1.0. [19:08] Just a friend I know from other venues. He's new to Python, but he's pretty meticulous about quality. [19:09] ok cool sounds good [19:09] He's just gonna write the user-status-screening and WM-integration stuff while I work on the UI-to-library bindings and event logic. [19:09] While you work on the layout and appearance stuff. [19:10] jenkins: hi! http://www.foopics.com/showfull/cb9b56043d6a15f0c3e3cef29f89b63b [19:10] thorwil: looks great! can we play with the back ground colours? 3 different ones may be [19:11] be back in 10 mins being called to dry up [19:12] jenkins: ty. better not. i think of the 3 shots as being in one series, so theme doesn't change, just windows [19:13] Ia gree. [19:13] Iagr ee. [19:14] k makes sense [19:15] but can you make the arrows and the camera more distinct? [19:15] I am really pleased with thoses thorwil [19:16] jenkins: i could. maybe i will. though i made them subtle to not distract and also because the smaller sizes don't have those details at all [19:18] I see your point it, I think it depends on the angle of my laptop screen, I will print it out tomorrow and have a look. [19:19] can you e-mail/put in the branch a 48px one please ? [19:19] Are we replacing the existing logo with this one? Or using them side-by-side? [19:20] (The existing one is heavily pro-Ubuntu, but it *is* pretty) [19:20] (This one is nice and neutral and clean) [19:22] I think this is the icon not a logo . iirc [19:22] Sorry. That's what I meant to imply by "side-by-side". [19:22] well we need to come up with a logo basically [19:24] jenkins: https://code.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/quickshot_art [19:26] thanks thorwil [19:26] pidgin crashed [19:39] flan: how do i get a url to appear like the one here imagebin.org/112417 [19:39] http://http://imagebin.org/112417 [19:40] http://imagebin.org/112417 [19:40] http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtklinkbutton.html [19:40] Glade should have it in its toolbox. [19:41] Note that the project's URL will not always be displayable. [19:41] And there may be up to three URLs. [19:41] How you present them is up to you. [19:41] (If you even want to present all of them) [19:42] Quickshot project URL (not exposed if the project isn't public), version homepage (may not be defined), project homepage (may not be defined) [19:42] I thought I would just but quickshot.org there? [19:42] Oh. Yes, you can do that, too. [19:43] thanks flan i had found that button but not the setting to make it look like a noraml window but have now [19:44] Where are you packing it? (On the welcome screen, I presume, but where?) [19:45] i am doing the about window :P the most un important one [19:45] As fro project/progress URLs, just give me a vbox on the screenshot-list window with two panels in it. I'll rip them out and put URLs in their place, if they're defined. [19:45] Ah. [19:45] That works. [19:46] Rip them out in code* [19:46] Part of the reason why GTK's box model is so useful. [19:46] And why I'll nag you about the importance of using it to group related content. [19:46] I know its not an important window but I had the urge to do it. I saw your changes and I can see why it makes sense === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-lunch [19:47] The about window is important. [19:47] It's just not crucial. [19:48] I will do the resolution ones as well just can't decide on how to improve over last time [19:48] Embed the progress bar in the page itself. [19:48] Instead of making a pop-up. [19:48] Just put a GTK progress bar in it (one of the "I dunno how long this'll take" ones. [19:49] We can show it dynamically once the process begins. [19:49] Assuming the process takes long enough to warrant the use of the bar. [19:49] I can't remember if it was fast or slow before. [19:51] In any case, it's basically just going to say "This project, , requires that screenshots are captured at a resolution of XxY. Something, something. We change things now!" [19:51] Oh. I remember what the delay was. [19:51] Installing disper. [19:51] Are we making that a dependency of the .deb to avoid it? [19:51] it was slow last time but it will be fast as I have changed the way the graphics driver is detected. i would like to make it a dependency [19:51] Until we can look at its code and find the right stuff to run ourselves. [19:52] yep [19:52] If it's fast, no progress bar. [19:53] See if you can prototype that window and the user details window by the end of today. I'll try to get the UI flow advancing to the screenshot list. [19:53] that window is there already [19:53] I mean so that it has only the buttons and stuff that we need. [19:54] It's kinda hard to go back once that point's been passed. [19:54] and the screenshot list one is done and the screenshot detail one [19:54] It really just has "Okay" and "Bail". [19:54] I wil adjust them [19:55] Screenshot details may get some tweaking once I get there, since there are more/different/stuff options than before. I won't get to it until this weekend, though, so we can probably discuss changes and work on its pieces concurrently. [19:55] http://imagebin.org/112420 is what I was going to use for the user to comfirm that the change has been made correctly so it is standard gnome stuff. [19:55] cool sounds good [19:56] Same with the username-change. Once the user's been created, Quickshot will have to close before the user can continue. It's a window that kinda creates a dead end if it ever appears. [19:56] Looks good. [19:56] Probably just tweak the wrap-points. [19:56] But I like it. [19:56] Is Maverick going with orange to indicate active buttons? [19:56] yep [19:57] active/selected/default [19:57] Kinda ugly, but whatever. [19:57] * flan isn't an art guy. [19:57] Wait... Wait... [19:57] Is that dock standard? [19:58] no thats awn [19:58] 'Kay. [19:58] The dock is one of the things I like least about using my Mac. [19:59] (Not because it's impractical, but because it's an inefficient use of space) [19:59] i auto hide it [19:59] Same. [19:59] I like to switch between dock and window buttons every few months. [19:59] But then I lose the ability to see what I have open at a glance. [19:59] Docks are better for when I'm working with a lot of applications, I find. [20:00] It's a very intuitive design, but it's not well-suited to my mindset. [20:00] You seen Gnome 3 yet? :P [20:00] I've been avoiding it. [20:00] I've been using it, after I got over my initial shock. [20:01] I mean I've been avoiding all news of it. [20:01] I want to be surprised. [20:01] Ah. XD [20:01] flan, jenkins: playing around with logo ideas: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/456df83df6c2d6df882e2af8261ba970 [20:01] I won't spoil it then. [20:01] Those are neat logos. [20:01] I like the first and third. [20:01] I like the third one :) [20:02] The second one's brilliant, but I'd go with the third. [20:02] I can't decide on gnome 3 I am waiting untill it is nearer reles [20:02] *release [20:03] third one has got me excited [20:03] ok, so i will tweak the 3rd on another day [20:03] The second'd be my pick if it weren't just a tad too subtle. [20:04] But I can't see a way to un-subtle it. [20:04] Short of moving the hybrid to the right. [20:05] using 2 colors and no split on the S should help the 2nd [20:06] Yeah... that might work. [20:06] Except it'd be three colours, wouldn't it? [20:07] Unless the Q becomes an outline. [21:14] flan, ping [21:45] Hi. [21:45] daker, pong. [21:46] What's with the pingpongs? [21:46] it's fine, just want to ask question how we can login to qs board [21:47] so i used my lp openid [21:47] I'd just need to add you as a project owner. [21:47] I'll add everyone who's interested after I reset the database. [21:47] (In preparation for 10.10) [21:48] we should ask humphreybc to design something for the qs board [21:48] Wait... Which board? [21:48] I thought you meant my staging site. [21:48] Which will probably be used for the next manual release. [21:49] yes [21:49] (I doubt I'll be ready to hand it to godbyk until after 1.0.0) [21:49] & for other projects :) [21:49] There's not really much to design... It's a backend to the client. [21:49] Again, it's not intended for public perusal. [21:49] It's just meant for administrators to approve and download screenshots. [21:50] ah oki [21:50] It's a very utilitarian concept. [21:50] The quickshot.org page will be a lot more general-user-oriented. [21:50] but it's should provide other things [21:50] My server's basically justa glorified database with a special protocol. [21:51] project activity, how many screenshot has been taken by hour, by day for each user [21:52] ...But why? It's not a social networking system. [21:52] It's just a filesystem + database, intended to facilitate the execution of a task. [21:53] Can you identify a benefit of indicating project activity levels? [21:54] i don't know it's just an idea :) [21:57] if i understand what you said, the stagging site will be just a backend for the projects owners ? === mrjazzcat-lunch is now known as mrjazzcat [21:58] Yep. [21:58] It'll have some degree of public visibility, but only as much as is needed for people to decide which languages need their attention. [21:58] And then only if the project is public. [21:59] For all we know, someone might set up a project to so they have a checklist of things they need to capture for a school project. [21:59] just so* [21:59] i understand [22:00] Whatever you see at http://flan.uguu.ca:5000/ump/10-04 is about as much as I can imagine a contributor ever needing to see. [22:00] The system is flexible, so we can add more later. [22:01] But, from my ancient mindset of minimalism-is-good-so-build-stuff-as-a-component-that-can-be-harnessed-by-other-stuff, this seems like the right way to do things. [22:02] An aggregator, like the quickshot.org site, can get enough information from the backend servers to calculate activity levels, general rates of completion, and user helpfulness to display it in a more engaging manner. [22:02] The quickshot.org site won't need to host any of the data itself, aside from deltas, because it's essentially all offered as a service by any known suppliers. [22:03] The backends retain their one simple purpose, the aggregators layer on top of them, and then a super-aggregator could be built on top of the aggregators. [22:03] * flan likes layers. [22:06] Note: Suppliers of information could be resolved by indexing/scanning the .qsproj files that are submitted to the site's bulletin board. The model's design allows for easy information-scraping. [22:06] (I don't like proprietary or undiscoverable anything) [22:07] flan: please let me know what else you would like me to do tomorrow night [22:08] Can do. Mostly, it's just a matter of getting the usability logic of the GUIs out of the way. [22:09] please make a list and I will do anything needed [22:09] Then (re)building the basic libraries behind them (which is what Wetbox^3 will help me with), and then binding everything together (which is what I'll do). [22:09] I'll just keep memo-spamming you. [22:09] yep sounds good spam! [22:09] Yay for spam! [22:09] G'night~ [22:10] thnaks flan night === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-afk [22:58] dutchie, ping === mrjazzcat-afk is now known as mrjazzcat