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micahgdupondje: not offhand00:02
dupondjewhere is the 'default' sound saved btw ?00:04
micahgdupondje: idk, I turned it off almost immediately on Linux (over 2 yrs ago) so I never played with it00:04
dupondjeheh :)00:05
dupondjewell sound doesn't really matter00:05
dupondjepopup would be cool ^^00:05
kancermanwhat settings changed in the dailies to make firefox 4 betas completely incompatible with AMO extensions ??07:31
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ftaasac, one of the g-o-s rule in the network-manager ppa has been failing for weeks, could you please ping whoever is concerned? i tried but got no answer13:56
axx_hi all14:28
axx_has anyone been using Mail Tweak for Thunderbird?14:28
axx_I installed yesterday and now TB won't load completely, it gets stuck after I enter the master password14:29
axx_all I did was reorganise the account order14:29
axx_ohhh this is ugly, it appears the only reason TB was freezing was because another user was logged… now that I've logged the other user out TB loads fine, even without -safe-mode14:34
micahgkancerman: not all extensions, there was a version bump though, so it takes time for extensions to catch up15:50
lfaraonemicahg: hmm. if my package sugar-firefox-activity doesn't modify firefox at all, no custom vendor.js, no XPIs or themes of any sort, but the result looks different just because of the GTK theme that Sugar runs in, is that okay?15:53
micahglfaraone: I still don't have all the details for the branding deal, maybe asac can answer?15:55
lfaraoneasac: ping.15:55
ftachrisccoulson, jdstrand, mdeslaur: fyi "[Branch ~chromium-team/chromium-browser/channels] Rev 261: linux/stable (5.0.375.127 -> 6.0.472.53)"15:55
lfaraonehttp://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7913/screenshotey.png  is what it looks like in Sugar with no modifications.15:55
lfaraonewhich is god-awful, you can't read the bookmark text, etc.15:56
mdeslaurfta: 6.0 needs NEW packages you mentioned?15:56
ftamdeslaur, yes, *-codecs update (maybe gyp too, i have to check) and libvpx (NEW in lucid)15:57
jdstrandwhat a pain15:58
jdstrandand perfectly timed since the -proposed update just got copied today15:58
ftanone are used by anything else atm15:58
ftaat least, until firefox is bumped to the one supporting webm15:59
ftaas i said, lots of security fixes: http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/09/stable-and-beta-channel-updates.html16:00
ftajdstrand, mdeslaur: ^^16:00
jdstrandfta: if you are planning to provide these updates for lucid, can you ping me and mdeslaur when you have packages ready and we will build in the ubuntu-security-proposed ppa? we will need a master bug detailing what needs to be done (eg, NEW packages, new versions, what is and is not affected, etc)16:00
jdstrandfta: mentioning that url in the bug would be keen too16:01
chrisccoulsonfirefox is using it's own libvpx i think isn't it?16:01
micahgchrisccoulson: in 4.0, yes16:02
micahgchrisccoulson: for xulrunner, we could try to use system vpx16:02
chrisccoulsonyeah, we could do16:03
* micahg doesn't know if there's an option yet though16:03
* micahg is testing upgrade to TB 3.1.3 and then uploading if all is good16:04
micahgchrisccoulson: any fixes we need to get in thunderbird before I upload?16:15
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i don't think so16:15
micahgchrisccoulson: any strong feelings about my patch name: fix_build_w_nspr_less_than_486.patch16:16
kancermanmicahg: when I go to the AMO website ( up to this point ) almost all the extensions I look forward to downloading from their installation pages the download button is lightened and tells me to install & use firefox ... is what I should've said16:16
chrisccoulsonmicahg - no, i'm not too fussed about patch names, as we don't really have a lot of consistency already16:17
chrisccoulsonas long as it works, then it's ok ;)16:17
kancermanmicahg: so I can't tell incompatibles even with the version bump ;)16:17
micahgmaybe mozilla 59112516:18
ubot2Mozilla bug 591125 in Networking: HTTP "Sanitize the app name for the UA string" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59112516:18
micahgchrisccoulson: yeah, it works, generally, the convention has been lpXXX_bzXXX_attXXX_name.patch, but I didn't have time to upstream it yet and we don't  if have an LP bug, and I wasn't sure when I added it which bugzilla bug it would be :)16:19
kancermanthe odder thing is that browser wide flash isn't loading ... not that I'm too worried ( youtube is just fine ... )16:19
micahgchrisccoulson: patch cleanup will have to be next cycle ;)16:21
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, sounds good16:21
micahgchrisccoulson: have you looked at the main rdepends for xulrunner at all this cycle?16:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, there's not much change from last cycle16:25
micahgchrisccoulson: well, I'm just wondering if there were any upstream compatibility updates for any of them?  is this worth me looking into before final freeze?16:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i wouldn't worry too much. the main one really is yelp, but we're already on the latest gecko based version of that (and development focus is on the webkit based yelp 3.0 anyway)16:27
micahgchrisccoulson: k16:29
ftajdstrand, mdeslaur: bug 62892416:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 628924 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium update: 5.0.375.127 -> 6.0.472.53 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62892416:46
jdstrandfta: thanks16:49
jdstrandfta: looks good16:49
micahgchrisccoulson: I assume my uploads will still end up in unapproved, right?17:17
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, they will do until we're unfrozen17:18
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I'm going to push the gnome-shell update w/xulrunner as well17:18
micahgs/update/wrapper17:18
chrisccoulsoncool17:18
micahgoh, I need to update gjs as well17:19
micahgchrisccoulson: would it be bad to wait till tomorrow to push xulrunner so I can update gjs as well and we can see if the update/xul change actually works17:20
chrisccoulsonmicahg - no, tomorrow is fine17:21
micahgchrisccoulson: k, because we probably won't get another release before final, so this seems like the only time to test this17:21
micahgchrisccoulson: thunderbird 3.1.3 is uploading17:21
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micahgchrisccoulson: speaking of wrappers, should I just make the changes you outlined in the mongodb merge and not wait17:23
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i tried it, but it breaks the test-suite17:23
chrisccoulson(dropping the rpath)17:24
micahgchrisccoulson: k, well, I can look at that over the weekend17:24
micahgchrisccoulson: we probably need to add LD_LIBRARY_PATH for it17:24
chrisccoulsonyeah, that would work ok17:24
micahgchrisccoulson: is this license for the wrapper ok for gnome-shell, I copied the one that Clint added for mongodb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487333/17:25
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, i think so, but i'm not a legal expert though :/17:26
micahgchrisccoulson: I could grab the one that siretart included in gxine...17:27
* micahg still hasn't done much with licensing17:28
[reed]why again does Ubuntu put up with Debian craziness?17:31
[reed]http://planet.fedoraproject.org/17:31
[reed]oh17:31
[reed]this is Fedora17:31
[reed]not Debian17:31
[reed]lol17:31
[reed]oops17:31
[reed]s/Debian/Fedora/ then!17:31
[reed]third post down17:31
micahgwow17:32
micahgpost was removed though17:32
vishugh!17:32
* micahg has about 150 of those CDs :)17:32
micahgwhich will make lovely coasters in 2 months17:33
vishmicahg: i guess they also have a COC or something :D17:33
chrisccoulsonfor some reason, i'm not at all surprised to see a post like that17:37
chrisccoulsoni just hope that people in the ubuntu community don't lower themselves to that level17:38
vishmicahg: [reed]:  http://dinosaur-os.com/post/105391241417:44
vishchrisccoulson:  seems like a failed attempt at a joke :)17:44
chrisccoulsonhi micahg19:06
micahghi chrisccoulson, what's up?19:06
chrisccoulsonmicahg - we should start maybe building a list of bugs we'd like to fix in maverick19:06
micahgchrisccoulson: as in the next 2 weekd?19:07
micahg*weeks19:07
chrisccoulsonso, if there's anything you want to work on (or think i should work on), let me know and i can get someone to approve the bug nominations19:07
chrisccoulsonyeah, in the next 2 weeks ;)19:07
chrisccoulsonit seems a crazily short period between beta and final freeze19:07
micahgchrisccoulson: k, where, gobby doc?19:07
micahgblueprint?19:08
chrisccoulsonmicahg - anywhere really. we can just discuss bugs on-channel if you like (and the list shouldn't be very long anyway)19:08
micahgchrisccoulson: k, I'll look over the weekend19:08
chrisccoulsonthanks19:08
micahgchrisccoulson: I'd definitely like to take care of the xul wrapper stuff19:08
chrisccoulsonyeah, sounds good19:09
chrisccoulsonpeople keep pinging me about bug 239952, which i'd really like to get fixed for maverick (and lucid too)19:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 239952 in firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "firefox - the associated helper application does not exist (affects: 49) (dups: 2) (heat: 280)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23995219:09
micahgchrisccoulson: that's fixed in 4.019:10
chrisccoulsonyeah, i've just tested the commit that fixes it19:10
chrisccoulsonit needs some source backporting for 1.9.2 to remove the gio parts though19:10
micahgchrisccoulson: ugh, that makes it harder to get branch approval19:11
chrisccoulsoni'll try and get approval for it anyway. if not, then we can try and ship it as a distro patch19:11
chrisccoulsonand i think that one is worth it (it has quite a high annoyance factor)19:11
micahgchrisccoulson: agreed19:12
chrisccoulsonthe mimetype stuff is a mess though19:12
chrisccoulsoni've spent the whole day trying to understand why it doesnt work, so i can understand why the patch fixes it19:12
micahgin 1.9.2 or 2.019:12
chrisccoulsonmicahg - both ;)19:12
micahgheh19:13
chrisccoulsonthe actual commit was to fix an unrelated problem, but it fixes this bug indirectly19:13
micahgyeah, it seemed to fix a few19:13
micahgchrisccoulson: I think maybe we should do a prism update as well, but I have to fix the FTBFS with the current trunk first19:28
kenvandineBUGabundo, hey... i just asked for another log20:28
kenvandineBUGabundo, but on another note... notifications from your statusnet posts are causing my gwibber to crash20:28
kenvandinei have been chasing a bug in libproxy that is segfaulting on caching of avatars20:29
BUGabundoits not crashing20:29
kenvandinebut i haven't been able to reliably reproduce it20:29
kenvandinethis isn't related20:29
kenvandineanyway20:29
BUGabundoit has been running prety smooth for a few days now20:29
kenvandineevery notification i get from your statusnet account is crashing my gwibber-service20:30
BUGabundodarn SSL20:30
kenvandinewhen it downloads your  avatar20:30
BUGabundocan you circunvey it ?20:30
kenvandineoh.... i bet that is it!20:30
kenvandinehumm20:30
BUGabundokenvandine: that log contains a lot of personal info20:31
BUGabundonot willing to disclouse most of it :\20:31
kenvandinewell look at it, see if there is anything of interest20:31
kenvandinei am confident gwibber is at least attempting to notify20:31
kenvandinei might add a couple lines of code for debugging and get you to run a branch20:31
BUGabundo[2010-09-02T20:26:27-00:00, Gwibber ] Fábio André Damas20:32
BUGabundoNew blog post: Severed Fifth: um novo paradigma musical http://blog.skkeeper.info//?p=39620:32
BUGabundoyeah, its there20:32
kenvandinenotifications finally work right in gwibber now, as of last night :)20:32
kenvandineok... so notify-osd is getting it20:32
kenvandinebut you aren't seein git20:32
kenvandineare you seeing other notifications?20:32
BUGabundoeverything else is being published by notif20:32
BUGabundomail, pidgin, downloads20:32
kenvandineso this bug has to be a notify-osd bug though20:33
kenvandinesince we proved notify-osd got the notification20:33
kenvandinecan you run  a script for me?20:33
BUGabundosure20:34
kenvandinegrab lp:notify-osd20:35
kenvandineand look in the examples dir20:35
BUGabundo$ bzr lp:notify-osd20:36
BUGabundobzr: ERROR: unknown command "lp:notify-osd"20:36
BUGabundowrong repo ?20:36
BUGabundoerr20:36
BUGabundonvm20:36
BUGabundobranch20:36
kenvandine:)20:36
BUGabundokenvandine: looking20:38
BUGabundowhat for?20:38
kenvandineone sec20:38
kenvandine ./append-hint-example.py20:38
kenvandinefor example20:38
kenvandinerun that20:38
BUGabundodone20:39
kenvandinedid you see the notifications?20:39
BUGabundono20:39
BUGabundobut saw one from email20:40
kenvandineok, your notify-osd is broken somehow20:40
kenvandineand your email is using notify-osd?20:40
BUGabundoyes20:40
kenvandinei assume20:40
BUGabundoand pidgin20:40
kenvandineok20:40
kenvandinehumm20:40
BUGabundoif you ping me, I get it20:40
kenvandineno idea... i guess file a bug against notify-osd20:40
kenvandinesomething is broken there20:40
BUGabundothis is a pretty clean system too20:40
BUGabundoclean isntall from last week20:40
BUGabundodaily live cd maverick20:40
kenvandineweird you get them from some things20:41
kenvandinebut this simple test script doesn't work20:41
BUGabundolet me rerun and pay more attention20:41
kenvandineactually i'll move this bug to notify-osd20:41
BUGabundojust got a strange message20:42
kenvandineit should display the notification for pretty long20:42
BUGabundoI can't see where it did come from20:42
BUGabundoassuming from the example20:42
kenvandinepaste please20:42
BUGabundo[2010-09-02T20:41:45-00:00, append-hint-example ] Cole Raby20:43
BUGabundoDid really everything in the race work according to regulations?20:43
BUGabundoyep, its from the example20:43
BUGabundoso, so far its only gwibber failing20:43
kenvandineoh, you did get that in a notification?20:44
kenvandinenot sure how you could have missed it20:44
kenvandineit lasts on the screen for like 30s20:44
kenvandineand gets pretty big20:44
BUGabundoyeah, I noticed it was big20:45
BUGabundobut didn't last that long20:45
BUGabundoand I get a lot of long notes from pidgin MUCs20:45
kenvandinei moved this bug to notify-osd, it is definately not a gwibber bug20:45
kenvandinenotify-osd got the notification and queued it20:45
kenvandineso nothing else gwibber could do20:45
BUGabundookay20:46
BUGabundothanks20:46
BUGabundodiner time20:46
kenvandinei'll comment again on that bug20:46
BUGabundoping me if you need anything else20:46
kenvandinethx for helping me find the crasher :)20:46
kenvandineyou and your cert :)20:46
BUGabundonp20:46
BUGabundonot mine20:46
BUGabundojust the statusnet site I use20:46
kenvandinewell, yeah :)20:46
ftajdstrand, which dist should i use for lucid? chromium -> l-security and gyp/libvpx/codecs -> l-proposed or l-security?21:36
jdstrandfta: all lucid-security21:36
ftaok21:36
jdstrandfta: they will all end up in lucid-proposed, but it makes it clear where they built and are supposed to go21:37
ftajdstrand, all done22:18
jdstrandfta: cool. where can I get them?22:18
ftajdstrand, it's in the bug22:19
jdstrandah22:19
ftajdstrand, is it ok for you?22:26
ftamaybe i should bump the priority for security updates, low seems weak and slow to move in the queue :(22:27
ftathere's no point in me working on fast updates if it's to spend days waiting for approval22:28
micahgfta: are you talking about in the changelog?22:52
ftayes22:52
micahgfta: our builders don't use that22:52
ftathey do22:52
micahgAFAIK22:52
ftai'm sure of22:52
ftait22:52
micahgI was told they don't, only debian does22:53
* micahg could be wrong22:53
ftasaw several people using that to bypass the queue on ppas22:53
ftai discussed with them and asked them to play fair, they stopped22:54
micahghmmm, why was I told what I was told then22:56
micahgfta: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/BuildScores agrees with you :)22:56
micahgfta: builders are still relatively empty right now due to upload freeze22:57
ftauh?? nothing is building for me atm22:58
ftai mean, lots of stuff waiting22:58
ftahttps://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable/+packages22:58
micahgfta: oh, PPAs have a small backlog, I thought you were referring to the proposed stuff for the archive builders22:59
ftamicahg, nope, those are waiting for approval, not for a build slot23:00
ftahttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=23:01
ftabut it seems there 1 week worth of packages waiting23:02
micahgwow 146 MB .orig.tar.gz and only 19k diff23:04
ftaand it's a pruned tarball23:07
ftalzmified23:07
micahgstill, it's huge23:07
micahgwe should switch to lzma for the mozilla stuff23:07
ftaso a pure tar.gz should really be huge23:07
ftaiirc, lzma has been replaced by xy now23:08
ftawz23:09
ftagrrr23:09
ftaxz23:09
micahgyeah, I read something about that23:09
fta!info xz23:09
ubot2fta: Package xz does not exist in lucid23:09
fta!info lzma23:09
ubot2fta: lzma (source: lzma): Compression method of 7z format in 7-Zip program. In component main, is required. Version 4.43-14ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 58 kB, installed size 168 kB23:09
fta!info xz maverick23:09
fta...23:09
fta.......23:09
ubot2fta: Package xz does not exist in maverick23:09
ftahm23:09
micahg!info xz-utils maverick23:10
ubot2micahg: xz-utils (source: xz-utils): XZ-format compression utilities. In component main, is required. Version 4.999.9beta+20100527-1 (maverick), package size 154 kB, installed size 356 kB23:10
ftawell, at least, tar --lzma now uses xz for sure, breaking older tar23:10
ftahit that about a month ago23:11
micahgfta: yeah, we can't switch to that until after hardy is EOL, but we can at least switch to lzma23:12
ftasure23:13
micahgthat should speed up the builds by a minute or 223:13
ftait's just waaaay slower to compress23:13
jdstrandfta: sorry I missed your question. I was reviewing/uploading them23:29
jdstrandfta: they look good. I updated the bug23:30
jdstrandfta: thanks! :)23:30
micahgjdstrand: do the archive builders look at priority in the changelog?23:31
jdstrandfta: as for builds-- ubuntu-security* ppas have very high build scores, so they are building immediately23:31
jdstrandmicahg: they didn't used to. but they afect things lightly these days. things building in the various security ppas aren't really affected by any of that (they have way high build scores23:33
jdstrand)23:33
micahgjdstrand: k23:33
jdstrandmicahg: gotta head out though. have a great rest of the day :)23:33
jdstrandfta: you too, and thanks again :)23:33
ftaenjoy your day, i'm heading to bed ;)23:34

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