[03:07] <IdleOne> Do we need to keep #u +r still?
[03:15] <nhandler> IdleOne: Probably not
[03:16] <IdleOne> just removed it
[03:16] <nhandler> :)
[03:39] <IdleOne> in PM
[03:39] <IdleOne> 090110-[22:38:57] <gh> you like to suck hairy nuts huh?
[03:39] <IdleOne> 090110-[22:39:06] <gh> grow up you fucking queer
[03:42] <jrib> just ban
[03:44] <IdleOne> spoke to him in pm
[03:44] <IdleOne> I think we understand each other
[03:45] <IdleOne> but if you can keep an eye open for bad attitude from him in the channel
[03:48]  * jrib will be going to bed soon
[08:22] <jussi> IdleOne: why the ban? I deliberately didnt ban...
[08:22] <IdleOne> want me to remove it?
[08:23] <jussi> no, leave it for now, but if you remove someone and they dont come back, then usually they are just a one time troll.
[08:23] <IdleOne> potentially destructive command, I figured it was a banable offence
[08:23] <jussi> Bans should be a last resort.
[08:26] <IdleOne> few days ago we had 3 separate "users" having fun using that command as a quit message
[08:41] <ikonia> keep an eye on oly562 in #ubuntu, he's being helpful now but can be a real issue
[09:25] <jussi> !wfm
[09:26] <jussi> hrm
[09:26] <jussi> IM not such a fan of getting rid of the "The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability."
[09:28] <topyli> i like getting rid of parens in the beginning, more readable
[09:28] <topyli> the new version is more general and applies to more cases including bleeding edge versions
[09:39] <topyli> time to quiet the aforementioned oly562?
[09:39] <topyli> no response on pm
[09:51] <ikonia> topyli: be ready for abuse when it comes
[09:51] <ikonia> don't you k now who he is.........
[09:51] <topyli> nope, wasn't interested
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[09:53] <topyli> anyway, just saying. seems like he got bored, is quiet now. i'm not an #ubuntu op anyway :)
[10:27] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth has specifically stated that he's trying to start a flamewar.
[10:29] <topyli> Jordan_U: he won't though :)
[10:30] <Jordan_U> Ahh, should have noticed you were already on top of it. Thanks.
[12:19] <switchgirl> mr-ali - user in #ubuntu called me a bitch
[12:19] <switchgirl> and a puto
[12:19] <switchgirl> in pvt - he pvt's without asking
[12:23] <bazhang> switchgirl, tried /ignore ? you can also set /mode +R
[12:23] <switchgirl> rofl what, on empathy?
[12:24] <bazhang> also /mode +g (though that will block *all* pm)
[12:25] <jpds> switchgirl: With individual issues; it's best to just ignore them.
[12:25] <switchgirl> wont work bazhang
[12:28] <bazhang> switchgirl, he's not disrupting the channel that I've seen. best to /ignore and set more restrictive mode at this point
[12:28] <switchgirl> mmk
[12:29] <switchgirl> om empathy none of what you suggested works **at all**
[12:29] <switchgirl> i know you're trying to help
[12:29] <bazhang> wonder if there is any empathy channel
[12:29] <switchgirl> thank you for that
[12:29] <bazhang> never tried it as irc client though. xchat and irssi certainly have it
[12:30] <switchgirl> i just thought i'd share as empathy is the default irc and im client now
[12:30] <bazhang> which is why I install something else :)
[12:31] <jpds> XChat seems to work best (unless you're in irssi).
[12:31] <bazhang> hehe
[12:35] <topyli> nobody listens when i say xchat-gnome should be on the disk as long as we have no proper telepathic irc client :(
[12:35] <topyli> on the cd even
[12:36] <topyli> but no, we install gnome-games instead
[12:37] <switchgirl> bazhang: umm how to report an issue with a programme - qbittorrent took me to a child p0rn site when i clicked buy on a torrent
[12:37] <switchgirl> the torrent was a legal one
[12:37] <switchgirl> not porn
[12:37] <switchgirl> i feel phisically ill
[12:38] <jussi> switchgirl: report a bug
[12:39] <jussi> switchgirl: and harrassment by pm there is little we can do, but you are more than welcome to ask for a staffer in #freenode.
[12:39] <jussi> empathy is severely lacking as an irc client...
[12:41] <topyli> no kidding
[12:50] <switchgirl> it also lacks ignore and blocking on ALL protocals
[12:53] <MichealH> Is someone keeping a eye on #ubuntu
[12:53] <jrib> MichealH: I'm there now
[12:53] <jussi> MichealH: yes, we are :)
[12:53] <MichealH> Thats good!
[12:54] <MichealH> You get the ops call?
[12:54]  * jrib nods
[12:54] <MichealH> Just wanted to know
[12:54] <MichealH> See ya
[13:00] <jrib> anyone else getting spammed my morpheus-3000?
[13:03] <niko> jrib: which kind of spam ?
[13:03] <jussi> niko: did you notice switchgirl's complaint earlier?
[13:04] <jrib> Hello, there. I am offering you a chance to awaken from your Matrix. But you must take the red pill. To get the red pill, you must join #Morph3000. If you don't wish to join, then just take the blue pill and in a few days you'll forget I even existed. But remember.... I'm offering you the truth... nothing else.
[13:04] <jrib> niko:
[13:04] <jrib> I took blue
[13:05] <niko> thank you jrib, jussi ok
[13:15] <gnomefreak> euqr
[13:15] <gnomefreak> [0j
[13:28] <elky> Hello gnomefreak's kitty?
[13:37] <bazhang>  [omgz0r] (~nazir_ali@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507): purple  known troll
[14:22] <Mamarok> !idle | switchgirl
[14:23] <Mamarok> that was fast
[14:28] <bazhang> zzzed, hi
[14:59] <Pici> zzzed: Is there something that we can help you with today?
[15:05] <Pici> zzzed: If there isn't, I'd like to call your attention to the channel topic, particularly the part regarding idling.
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[15:14] <ikonia> moron
[15:15] <Pici> actually issued.
[17:19] <MichealH> Grammar mistake in my request
[17:20] <MichealH> I had put "Neither is 'K' or 'kk' when I mean 'Neither 'K'
[17:20] <MichealH> If that makes sense
[17:21] <knome> neither/nor -> two negatives in a sentence?
[17:21] <MichealH> knome: !u has the same
[17:21] <MichealH> !u
[17:21] <charlie-tca> yes, correct
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Neither/nor and either/or
[17:22] <knome> right. but why create a new factoid? just link it to !u
[17:22] <knome> and create a common one
[17:22] <charlie-tca> I can agree with that, too
[17:22] <MichealH> knome: !r ect. has its own
[17:22] <MichealH> !r
[17:22] <MichealH> Argh!
[17:22] <MichealH> There is one
[17:23] <charlie-tca> There is a way to point each one at the same factoid
[17:23] <knome> it doesn't mean things are perfect even if we did have them like this
[17:24] <MichealH> I could send a edit request for !u to add K then get K to link to "u"
[17:24] <knome> yes. :)
[17:25] <charlie-tca> Great idea!
[17:26] <charlie-tca> Sometimes it is more work to get it done, but makes it easier in the long run
[17:26] <MichealH> !no u is <reply> U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'K', 'KK', 'l8', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.
[17:27] <MichealH> !k is <alias> u
[17:27] <MichealH> That okay?
[17:27] <knome> MichealH, the first sentence probably needs to be fixed
[17:28] <knome> i don't know, but probably
[17:28] <MichealH> I mean !4 !ur redirct to !u
[17:28] <knome> okay
[17:28] <knome> then that's probably okay
[17:28] <MichealH> So should 'R' 'Y'
[17:28] <MichealH> Those should link
[17:29] <knome> do they exist?
[17:29]  * MichealH would of done it but does not have access :(
[17:29] <MichealH> knome: Dont think so
[17:29] <knome> then let's not create them
[17:30] <knome> less is more
[17:30] <MichealH> Can I request permission?
[17:30] <MichealH> Or is it only for Ops?
[17:30] <ikonia> it's only on the authorized list
[17:30] <MichealH> Okay
[17:30] <MichealH> ikonia: What do you think of this decision?
[17:31] <ikonia> I don't think we need another factoid
[17:31] <MichealH> okay
[17:31] <MichealH> Its just it gets annoying in #u so I requested
[17:32] <ikonia> I rarley see it in #ubuntu
[17:33] <MichealH> It happens alot IMO
[17:33] <MichealH> It happpened roughly 5 mins before I submitted
[17:33] <MichealH> And I saw more xamples todya
[17:33] <MichealH> *examples today
[17:34] <ikonia> it does happen, but on rare occasions, and it's fine to just ask them
[17:34] <MichealH> Or point them to U
[17:34] <MichealH> With that addition
[17:34] <ikonia> no
[17:35] <MichealH> Okay
[17:36] <MichealH> So something like "Its hard for people who dont know English well to see 'k'. Please try to avoid it"
[17:36] <MichealH> I dunno
[17:36] <MichealH> That didnt make sense
[17:36] <ikonia> how about nothing
[17:36] <ikonia> just ask them if you see them doing it
[17:36] <MichealH> Okay
[17:36] <ikonia> if it becomes a problem, we can look at it, but it's not really something that comes up often
[17:36] <MichealH> Okay
[17:36] <MichealH> Thanks
[17:56] <Nece228> hi funkyHat
[17:56] <funkyHat> Hi Nece228
[17:56] <Nece228> hows going
[17:56] <Nece228> im here to be unbanned
[17:56] <funkyHat> Not bad thanks, sorry I've missed you the past few days when you came in here
[17:57] <Nece228> no problem
[17:57] <Nece228> we cant be online 24/7 ;)
[17:57] <funkyHat> Nece228: have you read the guidelines and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?
[17:57] <funkyHat> !guidelines
[17:57] <funkyHat> !coc
[17:58] <Nece228> yes i had
[17:58] <Nece228> but i will read them again now
[18:02] <Nece228> ok i have readed them now
[18:03] <funkyHat> Nece228: ok. Now, do you understand the reasons why you were banned?
[18:04] <Nece228> of course
[18:04] <Nece228> i voided irc guideline
[18:05] <funkyHat> Could you tell me which part of the guidelines?
[18:05] <Nece228> the line which says "Don't be annoying"
[18:05] <funkyHat> Ok
[18:07] <Nece228> so can i be unbanned?
[18:07] <funkyHat> Nece228: If I remove your ban, do you agree not to continue the kind of discussions and comments that got you banned?
[18:07] <Nece228> yes i do
[18:07] <funkyHat> Ok
[18:10] <funkyHat> Nece228: your ban is removed. If you try to start any conversations like the ones that got you banned before expect to be banned again very quickly, and don't expect your ban to be removed.
[18:10] <Nece228> ok thank you
[18:10] <funkyHat> Nece228: thanks :). And if that is all, please /part this channel, we have a no idling policy.
[18:17] <Nece228> ok bye
[18:17] <Nece228> thanks again
[18:48] <jpds> wut.
[18:49] <maco> can i set the channel +R?
[18:49] <jpds> [Freenode] [!] Unknown mode character R
[18:50] <maco> erk?
[18:50] <IdleOne> +r
[18:50] <IdleOne> not R
[18:50] <maco> there's supposed to be both +R and +r
[18:50] <maco> one bans unregged users from speaking, the other from joining
[18:52] <maco> nhandler: you got a clone
[18:53] <Pici> maco: +R no longer exists with ircd-seven
[18:53] <maco> oh. -_- why do they get rid of features?
[18:53] <Pici> maco: Its now +q $~a
[18:54] <maco> oh like im going to remember that syntax
[18:54] <Pici> !modes
[18:54]  * maco grumbles
[18:56] <maco> im not calm? this is news to me. im sitting in class quietly
[18:57] <niko> maco, in case of http://adipose.attenuate.org/~stephen/ircd-seven/seven-for-hyperion-users.html
[19:02] <jpds> maco: You have to pack your bags if you're going to Kazakhstan.
[19:03] <maco> heh
[19:03] <maco> im a bit more interested in countries where i speak the language
[19:27] <mneptok> maco: that's a lie. i saw you in Texas last November.
[19:28] <Pici> howdy y'all
[19:29] <mneptok> Pici: do you know the plural of "y'all?"
[19:29] <Pici> mneptok: y'alls
[19:29] <mneptok> no sah
[19:29] <mneptok> all y'all
[20:12] <gnomefreak> sorry about the gibberish typing this monring. i feel asleep at the pc and had eyes closed when trying to typw /quit
[20:21] <Pici> suuure
[20:23] <maco> mneptok: i regularly say howdy!
[20:23] <maco> a better way of pointing this out wouldve been to note that ive been to france and germany
[20:25] <gnomefreak> :)
[20:57] <gnomefreak> i potty trained my little girl easier than to train users to type /t or /topic
[21:03] <charlie-tca> heh
[21:03] <charlie-tca> I know
[21:04]  * gnomefreak wonders if we should post a comment on entering channel that gives the info than waits for them to hit enter to join :)
[21:04] <gnomefreak> i know we cant
[21:06] <charlie-tca> It only gets worse, too, now
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Too bad we can't give out a date that is 24 hours late
[21:08] <gnomefreak> well we still are able to tell them that it is a different time zone that is 24 later than any other one
[21:08] <gnomefreak> im ok with one or 2 even 3 people but the whole channel is too much chatter IMHO
[21:09] <gnomefreak> ban forward to -release-party  ;)
[21:09] <gnomefreak> ok so im the evil op
[21:10] <charlie-tca> someone needs to be
[21:11] <gnomefreak> well it seems its bazhang's shift so he can be
[21:12] <charlie-tca> He is not as good at it ;-)
[21:12]  * gnomefreak should hold classes :)
[21:12] <charlie-tca> yes! I will attend, too
[21:13] <gnomefreak> +1 has quieted down finally
[21:14]  * gnomefreak needs to attend classes for screen and mutt but not tonight. tonight is for fun
[21:15] <Fendaril>  any chance in the near future I will be unbanned from #u?
[21:16] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[21:17] <Fendaril> ???
[21:17] <gnomefreak> Fendaril: you need to wait for IdleOne. you were banned for evading the original ban
[21:18] <Fendaril> kk
[21:19] <gnomefreak> Fendaril: you may want to check back here in ~24hours. he isnt around at this time and i dont recall when i see him
[21:19] <IdleOne> I am here
[21:20] <IdleOne> Fendaril: Do you know why I banned you in the first place?
[21:20] <Fendaril> IdleOne: Yeah for the ops spamming
[21:20] <Fendaril> IdleOne: then for ban evading
[21:20] <Fendaril> IdleOne: is it perm or timed
[21:20] <IdleOne> every ban is perm until resolution
[21:20] <Fendaril> ok
[21:20] <Fendaril> So any way we can resolve this?
[21:21] <IdleOne> How do I know you won't abuse the !ops trigger again?
[21:21] <gnomefreak> thanks IdleOne
[21:21] <IdleOne> !guidelines > Fendaril
[21:21] <IdleOne> !coc > Fendaril
[21:22] <IdleOne> Please read the links ubottu just sent you
[21:23] <Fendaril> IdleOne: well you have to think that I already ban evaded and If I really still wanted to abuse "!ops" I would have done it in offtopic and bypassed and done it again. It won't happen again, but the decision lies with you. I read both those links the night after you sent them to me
[21:24] <Fendaril> IdleOne: but I didnt sign the CoC
[21:24] <Fendaril> IdleOne: goona sign it now
[21:24] <IdleOne> Fendaril: ok, I will remove the ban. Please try to be helpful and make sure you follow the channel guidelines. Remember that #ubuntu is not #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:25] <mneptok> you don't have to sign it to be bound by it when using official Ubuntu IRC channels
[21:25] <IdleOne> Fendaril: signing the code of conduct is your decision.
[21:25] <Fendaril> mneptok: No I just thought it would be polite and let IdleOne I am not trying to get back on to be abusive
[21:25] <IdleOne> but like mneptok said you are expected to follow the CoC when in Ubuntu forums of any kind
[21:25] <Fendaril> ok
[21:26] <mneptok> Fendaril: i never signed any document that says, "I won't break into Fendaril's house and steal his stereo," but somehow i think the justice system wouldn't really care about that lack of signature. ;)
[21:26] <jrib> IdleOne: "mailto"?
[21:26] <IdleOne> Fendaril: Please try joining #ubuntu to make sure the ban is liftederrr
[21:27] <IdleOne> thanks for catching that jrib
[21:27] <jrib> no problem
[21:27] <IdleOne> stupid client adds mailto for some reason when I ctrl-c
[21:28] <IdleOne> Fendaril: Please try joining #ubuntu to make sure the ban is lifted and then part this channel.
[21:31] <Fendaril> IdleOne: I am still banned
[21:32] <Fendaril> IdleOne: was their a range you banned so i couldnt evade?
[21:33] <mneptok> all 5 boroughs, except Roosevelt Island. :)
[21:33] <IdleOne> try again please
[21:33] <gnomefreak> that did it
[21:43] <gnomefreak> +r anyone?
[21:43] <gnomefreak> thanks tomaw
[21:43] <jpds> bazhang_: http://www.techeye.net/business/data-protection-act-will-give-way-to-taiwans-age-of-online-liability - troll tax?
[21:44] <tomaw> this "don't comment on the spam" crap is a sad thing that leaked from #freenode
[21:44] <IdleOne> yup
[21:47] <tomaw> I asked Sary and MichealH to not do so in the future
[21:49] <gnomefreak> what is it?
[21:50] <gnomefreak> i will go to malware sites but i wont join a random channel
[21:50] <tomaw> #freenode decided that it'd be good to ask people not to constantly talk about the spam (and this is good) but it created a group of people that go from channel to channel that's being spammed demanding that others don't comment on it
[21:51] <tomaw> ##comment-on-spam is fine and safe and you're welcome to join, I just dislike the people following the spam around soley to point people there.
[21:53] <gnomefreak> spam happen so fast there should be no need to comment on it at all
[22:55] <jrib> we're aware #ubuntu is +r?
[22:56] <tomaw> probably can be undone now
[22:56] <tomaw> I overruled the floodbots for a bit
[22:56] <tomaw> Pici: around?
[22:58] <tomaw> I removed the r
[22:59] <jrib> and right on time tomaw ...
[23:00] <jrib> put it back
[23:00] <tomaw> they watch channels and spam whem modes let them
[23:00] <jrib> hmm
[23:47] <jrib> let's try again!
[23:47] <jrib> (-r)
[23:49] <jrib> although how registration stops these people, I am not sure
[23:50] <jpds> jrib: ...
[23:50] <jrib> jpds: wow
[23:50] <jrib> sjm: can we help you?
[23:52] <jrib> !idle | sjm
[23:57] <jrib> Bryanstein, Guest42197, ubuntulo1: can we help you?
[23:57] <jrib> fear not, I know who ubuntulo1 is now
[23:58] <jpds> Should really be called ubuntulol.