[00:22] I read a forum recently, I don't recall where; someone pointed out a google query that'd bring up page after page of mysqladmin pages that were left completely open to the web [00:22] that's when these convenient applications become terrifying [00:28] shauno: yeah, backend web apps.. the scourge of the internet. ;) [00:31] http://www.forum.psoft.net/showthread.php?t=25834 that was the example I found. someone dropped a table off a customer's db, and the autopsy revealed they came in just via google [01:26] New bug: #628546 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3 failed to install/upgrade: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628546 === rmk is now known as rmk`away [02:48] not sure I'm understanding ufw correctly. it seems if I enable it (the only rule I've added so far is allow ssh), I drop off IRC. The connection appears active (if you can read this, I'm still connected ;), but ctcp ping doesn't seem to work [02:49] say I have two indentical files in different directories. Can I use md5sum to verify they are identical, and do so in one line without writing the sums to a file? [02:54] Anyone know the practicality of applying grsecurity to an Ubuntu 10.04 (64-bit) installation? === aetaric_ is now known as aetaric [02:58] Italian_Plumber1: Why not use "diff -q" to see if the files are identical? md5sum must read both files entirely, while diff may have the chance to stop at the point where they differ. [02:59] erichammond: Italian_Plumber1 'cmp' is your friend. [02:59] erichammond: why not use cmp, then? [03:00] * lifeless high fives twb [03:00] they're binary files, I only care that they differ [03:00] yes [03:00] cmp [03:01] $ cmp <(head -1 /dev/urandom) <(head -1 /dev/urandom) [03:01] /dev/fd/63 /dev/fd/62 differ: byte 1, line 1 [03:04] :) ok... cmp is cool.. now how do I compare the contents of two directories [03:04] Italian_Plumber1: diff :) [03:05] hmmm.... all of these commands are producing no output. :) [03:06] twb, lifeless: In my tests diff -q and cmp -s are performing equally well. [03:06] scratch that I'm comparing the same directory [03:07] ok cool. thanks guys [03:07] and gals, if applicable. [03:07] Italian_Plumber1: Send the output to /dev/null and use the exit value of the command to make decisions. True means the files are the same. [03:08] I had copied a torrent from one place to another and I suspected there were some errors during the transfer. Looks like there actually weren't any. [03:08] Thanks again... [03:10] erichammond: diff -q yes, true. [03:26] New bug: #628577 in openssh (main) "connection fails: ssh_exchange_identification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628577 [03:30] I'm trying to repackage my code for ubuntu. In the rpm world %config(noreplace) /etc/someconfigfile is frequently used. Is there an equivalent in Ubuntu? [03:33] ufw appears to be inhibiting outbound ipv6 connects as default? [03:40] erichammond: what data are you testing on? [03:40] New bug: #628584 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: sub-process new script pre-removal gives exit code 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628584 [03:41] shauno: IPv6 is disabled by default and only packets on lo are allowed [03:42] shauno: to enable ipv6, you need to adjust /etc/default/ufw then disable and enable the firewall. see 'man ufw' for details. [03:43] Interestingly, comparing a 1GB and a 2GB empty, sparse file is 7s for cmp and 0.005s for diff [03:43] Presumably diff first checks the length, whereas cmp supports streams [03:46] diff -q is equally fast for two 1GB sparse files, where one contains a byte at the 512M'th place. [03:46] Perhaps diff -q looks at the same thing as du --apparent-size when comparing sizes. [03:47] jdstrand: thanks [03:48] twb: I expect that it's just that reading a very sparse sparse file requires almost no IO, which is the main bottleneck. [03:49] twb: Nvm, looking back I see you were talking about relative speed (not just that diff was fast). [03:50] Probably someone suggested optimizing cmp in the same way and was told "you can't, it breaks " [04:04] Hi there, is there any way for me to take a look at the changelog for packages that apt wants to update before I update them? I tried installing apt-listchanges which is supposed to run when running 'apt' but I never see it appear. [04:04] Does it not work with aptitude or something? [04:12] !apt-listchanges [04:12] Grr. [04:12] The ops should just seed ubottu with the dpkg bot's database [04:12] Oh, he left anyway [04:15] twb: !info works [04:15] The answers he wanted were: use the C key in aptitude (installing libparse-debianchangelog-perl recommended), and apt-listchanges only runs AFTER apt (but before dpkg), and it only lists NEWS by default, not changelog -- most packages don't have NEWS files. [04:16] Jordan_U: not quite the same thing though [04:16] dpkg> well, apt-listchanges is a package that shows you the NEWS.Debian and/or the Debian changelogs for packages before upgrading them. It is well worth it for stable users, to see what is happening to their machines as they apply security fixes. It should be made _mandatory_ for users of testing and unstable. Also ask me about , . [04:16] versus [04:16] dpkg> apt-listchanges: (package change history notification tool), section utils, is standard. Version: 2.85.3 (sid), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 280 kB [04:17] (If you don't already know, you can /msg dpkg if you first /join #debian-bots.) === sourcode_ is now known as sourcode [06:20] So I have a prospective customer that needs some handholding for DNS for his cpanel-based VPS [06:21] I haven't used cpanel before, but I expect it's basically like webmin, and that I shouldn't go behind its back [06:35] Any diff gurus who could tell me how to compare two lists (dpkg -get-selections lists) off two machines to see which packages arent in both lists? [06:37] Never mind, he ran away [06:39] fluvvell: just diff them [06:39] fluvvell: you might need to sort them first [06:40] You could also use comm(1) to emit the left-only, right-only or shared lines [06:42] twb: cpanel is WAY more controlling than webmin [06:44] twd, diff gives me a double list, I want a list of packages I can remove from the machine with more [06:45] shhesh, sorry i'm dislexic twb! [06:45] fluvvell: sort them, diff is great for sorted lists [06:46] SpamapS: "webmin done by professional crack monkeys rather than amateur crack monkeys" :P [06:46] SpamapS, is there a setting that can pretty up the output without a whole lot of < > or hex numbers ? [06:46] I've sorted them [06:46] comm -13 <(ssh foo dpkg --get-selections | sort) <(ssh bar dpkg --get-selections | sort) [06:47] fluvvell: you should use diff -u unless you have a really good reason not to [06:47] The default diff format is daft [06:47] twb: its just that cpanel dictates a lot of stuff, like there's only one mta, and one httpd .. [06:47] fluvvell: I like -u [06:47] Oh, comm ! [06:47] so diff -u, are all the - signs the packages that don't exist in both ? [06:48] SpamapS: so it's more like the bastard offspring of webmin and, say, zimbra [06:48] fluvvell: right, - will be everything that is in box1, but not in box2. + will be things in box2, but not box3 [06:48] fluvvell: -u lists deletions (-), insertions (+) and, by default, two lines either ide [06:48] *side [06:49] yeah, comm -3 might do me [06:49] rright, comm .. comm is good for this too, I forgot [06:49] I always forget comm [06:49] cheers guys, thats been mega helpful [06:50] fluvvell: #bash is good for generic scripting questions [06:54] Hi! [06:56] I have a few ubuntu VMs installed on KVM and they otherwise seem to work okay but randomly give this error - http://picpaste.com/ubuntu_vm-eGalwjCq.png [06:56] How serious could this be and what could be the cause of the same? [06:57] At times when I boot these VMs, the filesystem seems to be read-only. This is not necessarily after an improper shutdown. [06:57] A clean reboot may also result in this. [06:58] The host OS is openssue 11.3 . [06:58] on real hardware, that could indicate a failing disk or disk controller [06:58] but with a VM, lots of other factors come into play [06:58] qman__: yes i agree [06:58] could just be a bug, could be failing hardware, could be a misconfiguration [06:59] Where's TTL in dig's output? [06:59] there are other openssue and centos VMs as well but this problem only shows up in ubuntu ones [07:02] qman__: so i think it could not be a hardware issue [07:02] well, it's clearly failing with a DMA write to the VM's primary disk [07:03] does it happen periodically or only during boot? [07:03] randomly [07:04] disabling DMA may eliminate the error, but may also impact performance [07:04] the read-only problem only happens during boot and a reboot fixes it with pressing of F 'fix errors' prior to boot. [07:04] I don't know enough about how DMA performs in VMs [07:04] the screen dump about DMA is random [07:04] at times it has gone days without any such error, at times within a few hours [07:06] my best guess would be an issue between your virtual disk availability/performance and ubuntu's disk access performance tweaks [07:06] in that ubuntu is trying to write to the disk without waiting for it to become available [07:06] but that's only a guess [07:07] qman__: so is there some other channel you suggest I post to ? [07:07] probably to do with upstart, which boots significantly differently from sysv-style rc [07:07] or a kernel setting that ubuntu has and the other VMs don't [07:08] it would take some more in depth investigation [07:08] okay upstart is a quick-boot thingie in ubuntu, right? [07:08] I am new to the ubuntu world [07:08] upstart replaces sysv-init [07:08] right, thanks. [07:08] the way it works is, scripts have certain event triggers to start up [07:08] instead of loading in a pre-set order for given runlevels [07:08] where do you suggest I continue digging [07:09] well, I'd first try disabling DMA as a kernel parameter, because it's easy to do and test [07:09] but this problem doesn't seem to happen at boot only [07:09] how do we do that? [07:09] hold shift while booting to get to grub, edit the boot line, and add the right parameter [07:10] I think it's "nodma" but I don't recall [07:11] looks like ide=nodma [07:11] this is a one-time option, just for testing [07:11] qman__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014723 [07:12] other than that, I'd try to figure out what's writing to the disk and when, when that error comes up [07:13] libata.dma=0 is the option to use as per this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1396670 [07:13] that is very tough as it is very very random [07:14] and the only way to figure that out is by having a constant watch at the virt-viewer [07:14] also, keep an eye on your disk files [07:14] if they're on a network share, see if they're disconnecting, or if they're local, see if something else is trying to lock them [07:15] check your disk performance, too [07:15] the fact that it's specific to ubuntu VMs in an environment where others work fine means that the VM side is more likely [07:15] but it's still possible [07:15] yes the home is nfs mounted [07:15] there are 4 test users but none of them have ever complained [07:16] also, check the dmesg on your other machines [07:16] they might be having the same problems but not telling you [07:16] actually there seems to be no performance loss or disruption [07:16] it is only the dump [07:17] no they are well aware about the test env and report any kind of smallest niggles [07:17] they are trained for that ;) [07:17] I mean the other OSes might not be reporting them to the console [07:17] depends on the defaults [07:18] that could be [07:18] but the error would always show up in dmesg [07:18] regardless of console reporting [07:19] but coincidentally i have tried this on 2 different hardwares (Intel and AMD) with the same set of VMs and the results for Ubuntu VMs remains consistent [07:19] if there is no data loss and no performance hit, you may just leave it, but failure to write to disk could be something more serious, it just requires more investigation [07:19] hence I feel it is something to do with Ubuntu 10.04 installed as VMs only [07:20] well, you need to verify that it is just the ubuntu VMs, that would eliminate the host software [07:20] check the dmesg on the other VMs [07:20] there is at times loss or corruption of some files such as package manager config or ldap.conf [07:20] available file,etc [07:20] but i have seen that is a common issue in ubuntu and deb package mgmt [07:21] but ldap.conf being lost is something serious [07:21] I wouldn't call it a common issue [07:21] I've only run into it on failing hardware [07:21] i simply keep a backup and restore it from there and all works again [07:21] but deb pkg related issues are all over google [07:21] well, if it keeps happening post-boot, it's probably the kernel [07:22] i have just updated the kernel this morning [07:22] try the no DMA setting, try playing with other performance settings relating to disks [07:22] maybe compare the ubuntu kernel with the kernels from your other OSes [07:22] 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 20 14:21:58 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux [07:22] see what's set differently [07:23] 2.6.34-12-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2010-06-29 02:39:08 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [07:23] not the versions, the settings [07:24] okay [07:24] compile options, kopts [07:24] should be in the documentation or source packages for each distro [07:24] kirkland: I'm now [07:24] focus on disks [07:24] try to find something that sticks out [07:25] you are right [07:25] if you can eliminate your environment as the problem, file a bug report too [07:26] other OSes throw this up in dmesg [07:26] in that case, it's likely an issue with the NFS share [07:27] http://pastebin.com/V2ZdBmxS [07:27] network congestion, hardware failure, host software issues, you name it [07:27] even NFS mount options [07:27] but this VM has nothing to do with NFS [07:27] oh it does [07:27] well, it depends on where the VM's disk is stored [07:27] i will first work with the NFS options [07:28] that's what I'm getting at [07:28] the problem is between the running VM and its disk [07:28] all are sparse [07:28] could be a number of things, the intermittency points at NFS if the disks are over NFS [07:28] some are running from the local system and some from NFS shares [07:28] could be host machine getting bogged down, too [07:29] but the 2 i am analysing now are from the same host system [07:29] too many iops [07:29] so now it seems i need to look into mount options only [07:30] mount options, and start taking performance logs on the system where the disk images are stored [07:30] or analyse a VM without any NFS mount [07:30] performance logs - how? [07:30] if it has a failing disk or is struggling to keep up, that could be it [07:31] you probably want iostat === rmk`away is now known as rmk [07:33] qman__: will do some homework and revert, thanks for your prompt help [07:34] no problem [07:34] should not be failing hw as it would be too much of a coincidence that both my servers are failing - one 3 yrs old and one a few weeks old [07:36] New bug: #628646 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628646 [07:39] smoser: in case you're insomniac, ping [07:56] qman__: exactly same problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1450439 [07:56] similar issues - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1489063 [07:57] http://tinyurl.com/37p7jj6 [08:01] morning [08:45] qman__: looks like the actual demon lies here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensuse/+bug/584048 [08:45] Launchpad bug 584048 in opensuse "kvm images losing connectivity w/bridged network" [Undecided,New] [08:45] this is getting very hot [10:06] how do i write an iso to an empty partition [10:13] zenmower: If you just want to output it as is use dd if='my.iso' of='/path/to/partition' ( with out the quotes ) [10:14] yeah [10:14] thanks [10:14] actually not sure if that works [10:14] well we'll see [10:20] zenmower: any joy? [10:22] no i gotta repartition [10:22] so i havent tried yet [10:42] New bug: #628700 in openssh (main) "package openssh-server 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script pre-installation nuevo devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628700 [10:49] ok it's doing somthing [10:49] we shall see === ivoks_away is now known as ivoks [12:14] i think this happened to me [12:14] http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/08/28/2112208/Some-Windows-Apps-Make-GRUB-2-Unbootable [12:16] New bug: #628764 in samba (main) "The Samba 'panic action' script, /usr/share/samba/panic-action, was called for PID 18453 (/usr/sbin/smbd)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628764 [12:26] hello [12:29] Could somebody point me to a good step-by-step for setting up samba share for windows network on a non-graphical ubuntu server (8.04) [12:29] ?? [12:31] Could somebody point me to a good step-by-step for setting up samba share for windows network on a non-graphical ubuntu server (8.04)?? [12:36] ttx, here now. [12:37] bt36: there are a couple of good ways to do that. 1. Read the examples. 2. use swat. [12:37] smoser: Do you think we should mention the results of sanscloud in the technicaloverview ? [12:37] also http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html#id2551954 [12:37] ttx, you have an example of past technical overview ? [12:38] check ubuntuforums [12:38] smoser: if yes, please edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview [12:38] smoser: see what's already there for "Ubuntu Server Cloud images" [12:38] smoser: I already mentioned cloud-init and kernel upgrades (for alpha2 and alpha3) [12:39] the kernel is the big thing. [12:39] i wouldn't mind putting the sans sclod info there. [12:39] smoser: please do ! [12:39] as it is somethign people have asked about "Can I run this image on my local system" ? [12:39] ok. [12:40] should I have a link to more info there also? [12:40] sure [12:44] SpamapS, hey.. can you grab me when you are about please :) [12:44] smoser: also do you think any of the bugs reported against the EC2 images should be targeted to Maverick ? [12:45] ttx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/487194/ [12:45] (the "ISO" testing bugs) [12:45] ttx, yes. [12:45] about your blurb: could use an external link for more info [12:45] about the bugs: which ones are "solvable" for release ? [12:47] hit reload on page and read. [12:47] ttx, let me put together a list of what is what. [12:47] a bug list. [12:48] smoser: hit reload; doesn't seem to include a link [12:48] There is more information available on the Ubuntu wiki. [12:48] "wiki" is a link [12:48] ah ,ok [12:49] smoser: works for me, thanks [12:49] hi [12:51] is that possible to separate ubuntu updates and ubuntu security-updates ? [12:54] mealstrom: yes [12:54] mealstrom: just enable to -security apt repository (and not the -updates one) [12:56] ttx: ahhh.. tnx a lot. [12:57] Although.... I believe -security updates are tested against what is in -updates... Not a big deal, unless there is an ABI bump - which we have seen before. [13:08] Hey DavidLevin [13:08] Hey Daviey [13:08] hey matti [13:14] matti, Hi [13:14] ttx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/487207/ [13:14] ttx, ping [13:15] smoser: yep [13:15] reading [13:28] <\sh> maswan, great news...I tested lucid and maverick today on those 465g7 blade servers...and only the installer kernel modules udeb package is broken, means, the hp be2{net,scsi} drivers are not in those udebs...booting into the installed system everything works fine and doesn't give any headaches because of timeouts [13:28] <\sh> maswan, for reference bug #628776 [13:28] Launchpad bug 628776 in linux "HP NC511i Driver (be2net and be2scsi) is missing in kernel module udebs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628776 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [13:37] Daviey: just a very minor clarification-- we build security updates without -updates (so they are guaranteed to be installable for systems without -updates), but we do typically test with -security and -updates installed [13:37] Daviey: we also pull from -updates to create a -security update [13:38] Daviey: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Packaging for details [13:38] jdstrand, Interesting... so your work is based on that of -updates, but your main test base is the main release pocket? [13:38] Daviey: that isn't what I meant to say [13:38] oh [13:39] Daviey: we use the latest source package (excepting -proposed) and build with only release and -security [13:39] Daviey: this is to support all Ubuntu users-- ones that only have -security enabled and ones who also have -updates enabled [13:39] Daviey: we test with -updates enabled [13:40] Daviey: since most people run with -updates [13:40] jdstrand, Oh great.. How will that scale with the perception I have that we are producing more SRU's.. ie the delta between -updates and release is larger? [13:41] jdstrand, I always knew you *could* run without -updates, but i just assumed it wasn't a supported model... :) [13:42] jdstrand, So... If -security creates an ABI bump, meaning something statically built against it's rdepends; should the no change rebuild be put in -security or -updates? [13:43] Daviey: running with or without updates is supported [13:44] Daviey: we pull from -updates to reduce version skew within the archive [13:44] Daviey: if something from -updates needs a security update but also a bunch of other 'stuff', we will pull that other 'stuff' into the -security update [13:45] jdstrand, thanks :) [13:46] Daviey: it happens less frequently than one might think, but we have most definitely been known to do 'no change rebuilds for security' for things that a security update pulled from -updates depends on [13:47] that sounds painful [13:48] Daviey: and on a personal note, I always run -updates on desktops, and on servers it is more of a choice-- I've definitely been known to only run with -security on certain systems [13:49] jdstrand, I remember discovering one. doing the dance of raising a bug, creating a package, getting it into -proposed... only to see one uploaded into -security a few days later :) [13:49] * Daviey cursed :D [13:49] hallyn: it can be, but it is less painful than having to create and test up to 2 security updates per release [13:49] hallyn: ie, one for -updates and one for -security [13:50] Daviey: yes, we try to notice those and will mention in the bug that this will happen/has happened [13:51] jdstrand, It was a universe one, that one of your chapies noticed later. [13:51] Daviey: but that goes both ways-- sometimes something pops up in -updates while we are preparing a -security update and on the day of publication we have to reroll and retest :) [13:51] lovely :) [13:52] again, still less pain overall than having to test twice and potentially having significantly different versions of software to update [13:52] (and in the archive) [13:52] eg, gnome and kde sometimes get largish changes into -updates [13:53] (whole version bumps) [13:53] it is admittedly imperfect, but the least evil [13:55] we like to turn it around and say it is a feature for people running with only -security-- they get the benefit of getting particularly well tested bug fixes when running with only -security (ie, something goes to -proposed, goes to -updates and sits there until a -security update happens-- very low chance of regression typically) [13:55] the spin doctors that we are :) [14:14] \sh: excellent [14:32] How can I add a route without being root? Since network-manager-openvpn is able to add the VPN routes without NM being root, I figure this is possible? [14:33] <\sh> benedikt, I think NM is setting the routes via dbus magic which somehow has root privileges afaik [14:34] \sh: ah. Thanks, now I'll figure out how to make dbus set routes [14:36] <\sh> benedikt, na..openvpn sets the routes and this openvpn process is being started by nm-openvpn magic via dbus as root I'm not a specialist for NM...ask someone from plumbers frontier [14:37] \sh: hm.. i was going to do a quick hack, but since dbus has been added to the equation this wouldn't be a quick hack any more. [14:37] I think the quickest solution would be to allow the user to run sude ip route add without asking for password [14:40] mathiaz: do you plan to exercise part of your magic scripts on the beta ISo testing ? I did not see any results from you yet [14:40] ttx: working on it [14:41] ttx: any tests are missing for now [14:41] <\sh> I really would like to read something about udevs magic how to number the different pci devices..is it from highest to lowest IRQ? so SmartArray on IRQ11 will become /dev/cciss/c0d0 and the smartarray on irq10 will become /dev/cciss/c1d0? [14:41] mathiaz: is that a question ? [14:41] ttx: I'm integrating my iso testing scripts with hudson [14:41] ttx: any tests are missing for now ? [14:41] i386 / Install (default + RAID1) [14:41] the ESX tests but we can't really do those [14:42] + some optional testcases, including the "UEC install (separate networks topology)" [14:42] ttx: ESX -> usualy done by someone from QA [14:42] ttx: ok - I'll do the raid1 [14:42] we may have a couple of hours left, fyi [14:43] but not much more. [14:43] Daviey, hggdh: did anyone test the separate networks topology (aka Topo3) ? [14:45] <\sh> benedikt, I wouldn't allow any user to set ip routes at all...they could break things [14:45] ttx, I have tested a 3 box topology a week ago.. Carlos has been mainly focusing on multiple [14:46] Daviey: would be good to register a result with the beta candidate on Topo3 in the tracker [14:46] ttx, agreed [14:46] since complex topos tend to work better than simple ones those days [14:47] \sh: this is just a quick script for me to route certain networks without going through the vpn router === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:52] ttx, Would a preseeded test from hggdh suffice? [14:54] ttx: I am going to test it now (topo3) [14:54] Daviey: yes [14:54] rockin' === robbiew is now known as robbew === robbew is now known as robbiew [15:31] Daviey: here [15:31] Daviey: though I'll need to step away briefly when the baby wakes. ;) [15:32] zul: btw, i uploaded augeas to debian last week [15:32] SpamapS, heh, ok ;) [15:32] nxvl: is it worth asking for a FFE for it [15:32] SpamapS, zul: which one of you two plans to push the Lucid SRU on bug 564920 ? [15:32] Launchpad bug 564920 in php5 "PHP5 under Apache2 on 64 bit system is not completely 64 bit " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564920 [15:32] zul: let me check [15:32] ttx: i can do it this afternoon [15:33] ttx: I submitted it already as a merge proposal, I can't push anymore than that. ;) [15:33] hmmm [15:33] zul: seems so [15:34] nxvl: k...remind me on monday [15:34] SpamapS: and i commented on your proposal [15:34] zul: a couple of performance stuff, some bug fixing [15:34] SpamapS: I haven't seen those remarks taken into account yet :P [15:35] SpamapS: see my comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/lucid/php5/lucid-sru-lp564920/+merge/32803 [15:35] zul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487274/ [15:36] nxvl: cool [15:36] SpamapS: maybe you can write the SRU report and zul can sponsor your branch ? [15:37] ttx: that would be ideal ;) [15:37] ttx: oh I may have missed that. [15:40] ive plugged in a hdd into new hardware, m-board etc, and it has ubuntu server on it, think its 8.04. it doesnt find the network and i wonder if there's a neat little command to solve this problem? [15:40] do-dist-upgrade? :) [15:41] patdk-wk: as i said, i dont have network connection... [15:41] so? [15:41] I can do it without a network connection [15:42] :) [15:42] what network chipset? [15:45] realtek semiconductor rtl-8139/8139c [15:45] that is supported [15:45] and VIA Tecnologies vt8233 [15:45] dunno about that one [15:45] are you sure it's just not showing up as eth1? eth2? eth3? .... [15:46] yes, but the installation used another motherboard so its like it hasnt detected the change in hardware [15:46] ubuntu tracks network interfaces [15:46] yeah i see eth1 and 2 on iwconfig [15:46] the id of the old motherboard eth0, will be eth0 forever [15:46] new motherboard would use next available ethx [15:46] ok but it finds them as wireless cards [15:47] unless you wipe out the persistant file that tracks it [15:47] ifconfig finds nothing and iwconfig finds them [15:49] try not to use ifconfig, rather iproute [15:49] (ip a would be the command) [15:49] k [15:49] that's not the solution for the problem [15:50] it's just general advice [15:50] hmm [15:50] if you replaced you network cards with new ones [15:51] ttx: SRU info added [15:51] delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file and reboot [15:54] ivoks: thanks, will try that if not changing the settings in /etc/network/interfaces work on this reboot [15:54] ubuntu ties interface to hardware [15:54] if you add/change new hardware, it will get new interface name [15:55] those links are stored in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [16:03]