[15:34] <tseliot> Sarvatt: where did you find nvidia-2.6.36-ioctl.patch? Did you write it yourself?
[15:35] <Sarvatt> nope, nvnews forum, lets see if I can dig up the post
[15:38] <tseliot> Sarvatt: ok, it was just to know what to give you credit for in the changelog ;)
[15:52] <diverse_izzue> hi all. i have an external screen that i've long used with my former laptop, which had an ATI X1400 chip, without issues, using Xrandr. I now have a thinkpad T400s, with intel graphics, running Ubuntu Lucid, and while xrandr detects the display, and lets me turn it on, i simply cannot get it to show an image. ideas?
[16:16]  * tseliot is finally uploading the new nvidia driver
[17:49] <seb128> ubuntu bug #623272 seems an xorg-edger issue
[17:49] <ubot4> Ubuntu bug 623272 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Notification's background doesn't show completely (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623272
[17:49] <seb128> could somebody comment on it and reassing,
[17:59] <Sarvatt> seb128: done, thanks
[18:00] <seb128> Sarvatt, thank you
[18:04] <Sarvatt> no problem, sorry you get bugs like that. pixman is going through a rough spot
[18:06] <Sarvatt> i just fixed that in the ubuntu version but guess I haven't updated it from git in edgers since that fix, whoops
[20:22] <Sarvatt> RAOF: how about we just change the autoconfig logic for 8xx to use fbdev and leave KMS enabled?
[20:22] <ScottK> Sarvatt: By 8xx you mean 845/855 or all of them?
[20:23] <Sarvatt> just making it break instead of adding intel to the list so it tries vesa (and fails) and then fbdev (which'll work with KMS)
[20:23] <Sarvatt> ScottK: not sure, he wanted to disable KMS on i830, i845g, i855 at the kernel level which would force them over to vesa
[20:24] <Sarvatt> but it looks like 865 is as bad off as the others now
[20:24] <ScottK> That wasn't my experience yesterday.
[20:24] <ScottK> I got the one crash on logout, but the experience during the session was as good or better than lucid.
[20:26] <Sarvatt> how long did you use it?
[20:26] <ScottK> I used it for a couple of hours and left the live session up most of the day.
[20:26] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/614207
[20:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 614207 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i865] GPU lockup bb778213 (PGTBL_ER: 0x00000029) (affects: 7) (dups: 14) (heat: 107)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:27] <ScottK> Did theirs work on Lucid?
[20:27] <Sarvatt> finding tons of duplicates of this from people on 865
[20:27] <ScottK> OK.  Maybe I'm just lucky.
[20:27] <Sarvatt> good question :)
[20:27] <ScottK> All i865 != all other i865, so who knows.
[20:28] <Sarvatt> most look like crashes while watching videos using Xv if you want to try to break yours
[20:28] <ScottK> OK.  Next time I'm free to reboot it into a live session.
[20:34] <Sarvatt> ScottK: I have 2 PPA's that may potentially fix the problem, would you mind giving them a shot at some point? I'll add the info to your bug report if so
[20:34] <ScottK> OK
[20:39] <Sarvatt> appreciate it ScottK, sorry to be a hassle :)
[20:40] <ScottK> No problem.
[20:44] <ScottK> Sarvatt: I'll go do it now, so I don't forget.
[20:56] <ScottK> Sarvatt: One problem I have in Maverick that's a carry forward from Lucid is I'm always in 2048 X 1536 after booting.
[20:56] <ScottK> Sarvatt: I'm up in the live session now, so just let me know what you want me to do.
[20:58] <ScottK> Sarvatt: I've even got kwin effects including blur (just had to knock it's intensity down a bit).
[21:03] <ScottK> Sarvatt: Playing youtube videos works nicely. What should I do to break it.
[21:20] <ScottK> Got your bugmail.  Trying now
[21:32] <Sarvatt> ScottK: argh, I'm sorry, xchat isn't pinging me for some reason. You got the bug mail with the 2 PPAs?
[21:33] <ScottK> I did.
[21:33] <ScottK> Trying it now.
[21:33] <Sarvatt> any luck with either? the first is versioned lower than the second if you want to try them in order
[21:33] <Sarvatt> ah ok
[21:35] <ScottK> Sarvatt: What's the easiest way to make sure I know which one is actually running?
[21:35] <Sarvatt> hmm
[21:35] <Sarvatt> well with the first one you won't have a seamless plymouth - X transition
[21:36] <ScottK> I didn't.
[21:36] <Sarvatt> yeah thats working then
[21:36] <ScottK> Successful logout (no crash) with the first.
[21:36] <Sarvatt> oh boy
[21:37] <Sarvatt> RAOF: copy-fb patch causing problems on more than just sandybridge here
[21:37] <Sarvatt> ScottK: knowing if the second works properly will help a bunch also because it has a slightly modified version of the patch causing the issue 
[21:38] <ScottK> OK.  Trying it now.
[21:38] <Sarvatt> thanks man, you're confirmed something i've feared since it looks like there are a large number of bugs being caused by that patch :(
[21:41] <ScottK> Sarvatt: No crash on the second one either.
[21:41] <Sarvatt> \o/
[21:41] <Sarvatt> ScottK: thanks!
[21:41] <ScottK> You're welcome.  Thank you for caring about ancient shit.
[21:42] <ScottK> bad news though.
[21:42] <ScottK> enabling desktop effect with #2 froze the system.
[21:42] <Sarvatt> thats ok, it's not related
[21:43] <ScottK> OK.
[21:43] <ScottK> All done then?
[21:43] <Sarvatt> second one is a newer source than what's going to be in maverick, the refreshed patch only applies to that newer version as-is so just need to bring back some of the changes into our version
[21:44] <Sarvatt> ScottK: for now, thanks a bunch! I'll let you know when I have an updated package to try if you don't mind, working on it now because it also breaks a machine I'm trying to fix
[21:44] <ScottK> Excellent.
[22:45] <Sarvatt> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=c57840b272ba88fddf22484929608431879b0fab looks like a prime candidate for cherry picking if anyone manages to find a bug hitting it :) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29187
[22:45] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 29187 in Driver/intel "crash in intel_drv" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]
[23:07] <Galaxor> Hi.  I'm using 10.04 amd64.  I just added the ppa ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates and did an apt-cache update.  I want to install the latest nvidia driver, but I did apt-get install nvidia-current, and it said no new updates.  I said apt-cache show nvidia-current and it says version 195, not 256, like I'd hoped.
[23:12] <Sarvatt> you need to sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade, not apt-cache
[23:15] <Galaxor> The apt-get upgrade does not indicate that it is going to upgrade nvidia-current
[23:16] <Galaxor> It's only going to upgrade nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-96-modaliases
[23:16] <Galaxor> (and some other packages that don't start with 'nvidia-*'
[23:16] <Galaxor> )
[23:17] <Sarvatt> try dist-upgrade? what version is installed now?
[23:19] <Galaxor> 195.36.24-0ubuntu1~10.04
[23:20] <Galaxor> Isn't dist-upgrade for - like - going from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04?
[23:21] <Sarvatt> nah it allows packages to upgrade that bring in new packages
[23:22] <Galaxor> Well, that gives the same list of packages that it's going to upgrade.  Is it like, if I upgrade those packages then the next round will become available?
[23:23] <Sarvatt> i'm not sure why it's not showing up, does it offer anything if you sudo apt-get install nvidia-current?
[23:23] <Sarvatt> (don't let it install if it does)
[23:24] <Galaxor> nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[23:24] <Galaxor> is what it says.
[23:25] <Sarvatt> can ya run this command  in a terminal?
[23:25] <Sarvatt> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && aptitude show nvidia-current -vv | pastebinit
[23:26] <Sarvatt> or just put the output from aptitude show nvidia-current -vv on a pastebin somewhere
[23:27] <Galaxor> http://pastebin.com/52AEfv5h
[23:27] <Galaxor> (fortunately, I already had pastebinit installed)
[23:32] <Galaxor> It looks like I have two nvidia-current packages installed -- one from Archive: lucid-updates and one from Archive: now.  The one from Archive: now has not Filename or MD5sum listed.  Does that mean anything?  Or is that just saying "that's what you have installed now", and is normal output?
[23:35] <Sarvatt> i'm stumped. the extra Archive: now one is normal
[23:36] <Sarvatt> try opening up synaptic and forcing the version to the newer one and see what happens?
[23:37] <Sarvatt> or try sudo aptitude install nvidia-current=256.52-0ubuntu0sarvatt3~lucid
[23:38] <Galaxor> All right, it looks like it's willing to upgrade it in this case.
[23:39] <Sarvatt> did it have to remove anything?
[23:41] <Galaxor> It doesn't look like it.  It looks like it'll go cleanly.  Should I do it?
[23:41] <Sarvatt> just tried it in lucid with that package and it upgraded fine, I have no idea what happened
[23:41] <Sarvatt> yeah
[23:41] <Sarvatt> might want to check nvidia-current-modaliases and nvidia-settings versions too while yer at it and upgrade those if they didnt
[23:43] <Sarvatt> nvidia-settings will be 256.44, no changes between 256.44 and 256.52
[23:44] <bjsnider> looks like he just hadn't upgraded yet
[23:44] <bjsnider> he didn't have two different versions installed
[23:44] <Sarvatt> off to the store for hurricane supplies, whee
[23:45] <Galaxor> Sarvatt:  Good luck!
[23:45] <Galaxor> Thanks.
[23:47] <Galaxor> bjsnider:  Yeah, it was just weird because apt-get upgrade wasn't detecting that these packages had new versions available, even though they showed in aptitude show -vv
[23:47] <Galaxor> bjsnider:  But if I install them with aptitude and specify the newer versions, it seems to be installing just fine.
[23:58] <Galaxor> Okay.  I installed the latest nvidia driver and it fixed the xdamage/vino issue, so I'm happy with that.
[23:58] <Galaxor> but video playback with Xv still does not work.