| rlameiro | ScottL: are you there? | 02:45 |
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| holstein | hey rlameiro :) | 02:47 |
| holstein | long time no see | 02:47 |
| rlameiro | hey bass juggler | 02:50 |
| rlameiro | :D | 02:50 |
| rlameiro | how are your finger tips? | 02:50 |
| ScottL | hi rlameiro | 02:50 |
| ScottL | how are you doing? | 02:50 |
| rlameiro | vacations over | 02:51 |
| rlameiro | ScottL: did you saw that thing on the ML? | 02:51 |
| rlameiro | I send a reply now | 02:51 |
| ScottL | rlameiro, about the website? | 02:51 |
| rlameiro | the guy started to quote things | 02:51 |
| rlameiro | then I quoted back | 02:51 |
| rlameiro | ScottL: yeap | 02:51 |
| rlameiro | ScottL: check it ou | 02:52 |
| rlameiro | *out | 02:52 |
| ScottL | rlameiro, lol, that's a good one ;) | 02:53 |
| rlameiro | ScottL: I hate when people quote things for the sole purpose of using it for self benefit | 02:55 |
| rlameiro | the world suffered a lot because of that | 02:55 |
| jussi | PEOPLES!!!!!!!!!! if we dont test the beta, it wont be released!! TEST TEST TEST!!! URGENT!!! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all | 12:42 |
| jussi | quadrispro: ScottL TheMuso persia astraljava abogani holstein ^^ | 12:46 |
| quadrispro | jussi, emailing ubuntu italian testing team about that, I am not able to test anything now :( | 12:48 |
| jussi | quadrispro: thanks | 12:48 |
| scott-work | my ignorance may be slightly embarrasing but i really would like to understand this process | 14:58 |
| scott-work | the beta ISO was made available two days (i think) and there's pressure to get the ISO testing before the end of today? | 14:59 |
| scott-work | are we expected to test the ISO's before it's offical release? is this just for the Beta and RC? | 14:59 |
| scott-work | jussi, TheMuso, persia ^^^ | 15:00 |
| falktx | hi scott-work | 15:01 |
| falktx | scott-work: i'm thinking of making an ubuntustudio liveDVD soon, just for fun | 15:01 |
| scott-work | falktx: holstein was mentioned this as well, that would be awesome i think | 15:02 |
| scott-work | falktx: how do you build your current ISO's? remastersys and then host the ISO on sourceforge? | 15:02 |
| falktx | scott-work: i'm making kxstudio from scratch now (was previously based on kubuntu), so I now know how to do it | 15:02 |
| falktx | scott-work: scratch, really start from nothing | 15:02 |
| scott-work | how would you make the liveDVD? remastersys or similar? | 15:02 |
| falktx | i can show you my little script | 15:03 |
| scott-work | falktx: but how do you actually build the ISO? | 15:03 |
| scott-work | falktx: yes please | 15:03 |
| falktx | scott-work: everything is made on a chroot | 15:03 |
| scott-work | hmmm, i think i may have read something about this on the wiki.ubuntu.com | 15:03 |
| falktx | scott-work: first installing the basic packages, then keep adding new ones (usually just 1 or 2 metapackages that depends on everything else) | 15:04 |
| falktx | scott-work: yes, i got some info from there too | 15:04 |
| falktx | scott-work: then the ISO is just made using ubuntu stuff as base (artwork, grubfx, syslinux, boot, etc) | 15:04 |
| falktx | i just modify the artwork and text to KXStudio | 15:05 |
| falktx | I couldnt make a custom alternate dvd though... | 15:06 |
| falktx | scott-work: the scripts - http://ppa.launchpad.net/falk-t-j/kxstudio/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kxstudio-scripts/kxstudio-scripts_0.5~ppa2.tar.gz | 15:06 |
| falktx | scott-work: it's the 'kxstudio-create-iso' that you would want to look at | 15:06 |
| scott-work | falktx: persia had mentioned that building a live cd would include using casper and ubuiqity, are you doing this as well | 15:08 |
| falktx | scott-work: yes | 15:08 |
| falktx | scott-work: you would need to theme the ubiquity though, or it will look exactly like the ubuntu installer | 15:08 |
| falktx | scott-work: making a live ISO it's usually simple as running these commands: | 15:09 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso mount <base-iso-img> | 15:09 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso squash | 15:09 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso custom | 15:09 |
| falktx | (here install stuff) | 15:09 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso custom_end | 15:09 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso mkboot <path-to-artwork> | 15:09 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso mkart <path-to-artwork> | 15:10 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso md5sum | 15:10 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso iso <name> | 15:10 |
| falktx | and it's done | 15:10 |
| falktx | the mkboot and mkart steps are optional | 15:10 |
| falktx | scott-work: i should get a testing ISO build next week | 15:13 |
| falktx | scott-work: i'll let you know how it goes | 15:14 |
| scott-work | sweet | 15:14 |
| falktx | scott-work: it is ok to add my ppa to it? | 15:15 |
| falktx | scott-work: maybe also calf-plugins git version | 15:15 |
| falktx | btw, I noticed a refresh of ubuntustudio-meta package | 15:18 |
| falktx | new apps coming? | 15:19 |
| scott-work | falktx: we removed the -rt headers in us-meta as the -rt kernel has been removed from the archives | 15:27 |
| falktx | scott-work: oh, which kernel do you recommend? | 15:34 |
| scott-work | falktx: -generic | 15:37 |
| scott-work | falktx: the studio team needs to address a few issues with the kernel team about moving forward (which i completely forgot to do yesterday! arghh) | 15:37 |
| falktx | scott-work: i was thinking about putting 2.6.33-rt on the live dvd... | 15:38 |
| scott-work | holstein: are you available to test the amd64 ISO images ? | 15:42 |
| falktx | scott-work: i'll be able to test it soon, as I'll format my laptop again once I build a new testing ISO... | 15:54 |
| falktx | scott-work: what do we need to test? | 15:56 |
| scott-work | we basically need all the ISO images tested in the next day or so, falktx | 16:36 |
| scott-work | i think i can handle the i386 this evening | 16:36 |
| falktx | scott-work: but I mean, just to check if it installs? or you need any specific testing? | 16:36 |
| scott-work | checking the ISO is just to see if the image installs | 16:37 |
| scott-work | i just learned from #ubuntu-release that there is a two or three day window that the iso.qa tests are intended to validate the iso images themselves | 16:37 |
| scott-work | during the rest of the time before the next iso image release is for testing the OS, applications, settings, et al | 16:38 |
| falktx | ok, i'll test how jack is performing in a default maverick install | 16:38 |
| falktx | 64bit | 16:39 |
| holstein | jussi scott-work , when do these need to be tested? | 16:41 |
| holstein | i think i could do it sunday or monday | 16:42 |
| scott-work | holstein: that is probably too late :( we'll find another way | 16:53 |
| holstein | scott-work: im going to join #ubuntu-release | 16:54 |
| holstein | and see | 16:54 |
| holstein | i can probably do some today | 16:54 |
| * holstein is checking schedule :) | 16:54 | |
| holstein | yeah, im gonna make it happen today | 17:04 |
| holstein | the amd64 's | 17:05 |
| holstein | scott-work jussi this iso correct? | 17:06 |
| holstein | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/current/ | 17:06 |
| scott-work | holstein: try this one: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all | 17:18 |
| holstein | scott-work: but thats the iso right? | 17:20 |
| holstein | the daily? | 17:20 |
| scott-work | i'm not sure actually, presumably it should be...you could compare the md5sums | 17:25 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:25 |
| holstein | comapare them with? | 17:25 |
| holstein | im not seeing any indication at iso tracker as to what iso to test | 17:25 |
| holstein | maybe you or jussi just dropped me a link last time or something | 17:26 |
| holstein | i cant remember how i knew which version to get | 17:26 |
| scott-work | holstein: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4523 | 17:27 |
| holstein | :) | 17:28 |
| scott-work | on the link i had given before , first click on the 64bit test, then look for the picture of an arrow pointed down over a cd (near the top) | 17:28 |
| scott-work | it's kinda a crappy and hidden link :( | 17:28 |
| scott-work | coloring it red or blue or fuscua (sp?) or mauve or even aubergine would be nicer | 17:29 |
| * holstein vaguely rembering something like that now | 17:32 | |
| holstein | ANYWAYS, thanks scott-work | 17:32 |
| holstein | i didnt want to do all this work on the wrong ISO :0 | 17:33 |
| scott-work | holstein: LOL, yeah, that would have been teh sux | 17:33 |
| holstein | scott-work jussi | 17:39 |
| holstein | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4529 | 17:39 |
| holstein | thats for the i386 one | 17:39 |
| holstein | This build wasn't found on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20100902.1/maverick-alternate-i386.iso (may no longer exists) | 17:39 |
| scott-work | i'm seeing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4524 for i386 which does download | 17:41 |
| holstein | scott-work: thanks | 17:41 |
| scott-work | but i should be able to get the i386 this evening if you don't want to worry about and focus on the amd64 | 17:43 |
| holstein | 12:25 < cjwatson> holstein: as long as you test 20100902.1 not 20100902 | 17:44 |
| holstein | scott-work: i think thats the older one | 17:44 |
| holstein | scott-work: its not me | 17:44 |
| scott-work | gah...yeah and now i see more images coming from email :/ | 17:44 |
| holstein | somebody else in -release was trying to DL it | 17:45 |
| holstein | yeah, i just wasnt in yet | 17:49 |
| holstein | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4529 | 17:49 |
| holstein | that is working now | 17:49 |
| scott-work | cool | 17:49 |
| scott-work | holstein: but please focus on amd64 first, i can always get teh i386 this evening myself | 17:49 |
| * holstein not doing any i386 | 17:50 | |
| holstein | but maybe that guy in -release will do all the 386 stuff while your at work :) | 17:50 |
| scott-work | that would be sweet as well :) | 17:53 |
| scott-work | and thanks holstein , i really appreciate doing this | 17:54 |
| persia | scott-work, There is a test phase to confirm the final ISOs. | 18:56 |
| scott-work | persia: that is what i understand now after talking with ara and cjwatson in #ubuntu-release | 18:57 |
| scott-work | my misunderstanding what the time table and purpose | 18:57 |
| persia | Ah, OK. I'm still behind on backscroll, but glad you got good answers from folks who know more details than I. | 18:58 |
| quadrispro | hi guys! | 18:58 |
| quadrispro | hi persia, scott-work | 18:58 |
| scott-work | hi quadrispro ! | 18:58 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, naspro is sitting in Debian NEW :( | 18:59 |
| quadrispro | I've packaged naspro-core, naspro-bridges-bad and permafrost | 18:59 |
| scott-work | i'm guessing there is a reason it's sitting there rather than moving on? | 18:59 |
| quadrispro | yep, squeeze is frozen and there are more important things to manage for now | 19:00 |
| scott-work | oh, i've been meaning to bug you about quadrispro | 19:01 |
| scott-work | when you are looking forward for new things to package, can you update the swh-plugin ? | 19:01 |
| quadrispro | I remember that I had a look some time ago... | 19:01 |
| quadrispro | ahh! | 19:02 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, talking about this? http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/swh-plugins.html | 19:02 |
| scott-work | i think the current version in the archives do not include the lv2 plugins | 19:02 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: yes, that should be it :) | 19:03 |
| quadrispro | so swh-plugins provides sources for LV2 stuff? | 19:03 |
| quadrispro | if the package does, we can fix it on Ubuntu | 19:04 |
| * quadrispro away for just 8-10 minutes | 19:05 | |
| holstein | scott-work: SO | 19:10 |
| holstein | these are failing for me | 19:10 |
| holstein | at the 'select and install software' step | 19:10 |
| scott-work | argh, sorry quadrispro, i might be wrong about swh lv2 stuff...i apparently misread swh's website, it looks like we might already have the lv2 stuff in ubuntu, i'll check it out this weekend | 19:10 |
| holstein | and thats with me *not* selecting any packages | 19:10 |
| * holstein confirmed the md5 | 19:10 | |
| quadrispro | ok | 19:10 |
| scott-work | holstein: i ran into the same problem two nights ago with the i386 | 19:11 |
| scott-work | i had hoped that updating ubuntustudio-meta would fix that :( | 19:11 |
| scott-work | holstein: can you report the bug and link it in the ISO tracker? | 19:12 |
| holstein | i'l try | 19:12 |
| holstein | let me do the last one just to be done with it | 19:12 |
| holstein | scott-work: have you noticed a current bug report for it? | 19:13 |
| holstein | i know there is one for when you *do* select a certain package | 19:13 |
| scott-work | holstein: i tried it both ways the other night and got a failure for installing software in both cases so the problem isn't with the actual software selection portion | 19:14 |
| scott-work | so i would link to the same bug myself | 19:14 |
| * holstein will look for one | 19:14 | |
| holstein | and make a new one if not | 19:14 |
| holstein | andd link it up :) | 19:14 |
| scott-work | thanks again, holstein! | 19:18 |
| holstein | no problem | 19:18 |
| holstein | its really not a gruling as i was thining it wouldd be | 19:18 |
| holstein | and im going to leave my studio box in a state that makes it easier to test with it in the future | 19:19 |
| scott-work | #628981 | 19:19 |
| scott-work | bug 628981 | 19:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 628981 in linux-rt (Ubuntu) "linux-headers-rt not installable breaks installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628981 | 19:19 |
| holstein | OH | 19:19 |
| holstein | is that the culprit | 19:19 |
| scott-work | hmmm, i had expected this to be fixed by the respin because persia and i removed the -rt headers from the ubuntustudio-meta :( | 19:20 |
| persia | Might have been a timing thing: it may be that the task generation script in launchpad (which defines the tasks) ran at a different-than-expected time. | 19:23 |
| scott-work | persia: should i ask cjwatson for *another* respin but mention the us-meta update ? | 19:24 |
| * persia is checking caches | 19:24 | |
| persia | There's something ugly about the ubuntustudio tasks :( | 19:25 |
| persia | N: Couldn't find task 'ubuntustudio-desktop' | 19:27 |
| persia | `apt-cache show evince` doesn't show the ubuntustudio-desktop task, but "evince" clearly appears in ubuntustudio.maverick/desktop | 19:27 |
| persia | Someone else may be able to figure out more, but I don't expect to be able to understand why it's behaving so oddly before we miss the final Beta deadline. | 19:29 |
| holstein | :/ | 19:30 |
| persia | Indeed :( | 19:31 |
| holstein | who can we get? | 19:32 |
| holstein | JFo: ?? | 19:32 |
| holstein | ping me if i can help | 19:38 |
| holstein | i reported on all the test cases for amd64 | 19:38 |
| scott-work | unfortunately, my back is up against a wall at work, maybe in about three hours i can spend more time | 19:39 |
| * scott-work has already spent more time today than i should on non-work related stuff :( | 19:39 | |
| holstein | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4529/222 | 19:40 |
| holstein | that seems promising | 19:40 |
| scott-work | holstein: thanks for interfacing with cjwatson about that :) | 20:04 |
| scott-work | hopefully that fixes it | 20:04 |
| holstein | scott-work: im going to be a while though | 20:05 |
| holstein | but i'll just keek talking to cj about what im doing | 20:05 |
| holstein | i think as long as someone is testing, we're goodd | 20:06 |
| JFo | holstein? | 20:11 |
| JFo | you rang? | 20:11 |
| holstein | JFo: hey | 20:11 |
| holstein | i think i sorted it out | 20:11 |
| JFo | hiya | 20:11 |
| JFo | ah, cool | 20:11 |
| holstein | i grabbed an iso too early it seems :) | 20:11 |
| JFo | heh | 20:12 |
| holstein | which is an easy problem to remedy | 20:12 |
| * persia forwards bug #622583 to the archive-admins to complete the -rt removals. | 20:17 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 622583 in linux-meta-rt (Ubuntu) "Remove the linux-meta-rt packages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622583 | 20:17 |
| holstein | we are good to go with 64bit iso tests :) | 22:51 |
| holstein | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4528 | 22:51 |
| holstein | actually, we're good with all of them :) | 23:09 |
| holstein | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4529 | 23:09 |
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