[02:45] ScottL: are you there? [02:47] hey rlameiro :) [02:47] long time no see [02:50] hey bass juggler [02:50] :D [02:50] how are your finger tips? [02:50] hi rlameiro [02:50] how are you doing? [02:51] vacations over [02:51] ScottL: did you saw that thing on the ML? [02:51] I send a reply now [02:51] rlameiro, about the website? [02:51] the guy started to quote things [02:51] then I quoted back [02:51] ScottL: yeap [02:52] ScottL: check it ou [02:52] *out [02:53] rlameiro, lol, that's a good one ;) [02:55] ScottL: I hate when people quote things for the sole purpose of using it for self benefit [02:55] the world suffered a lot because of that [12:42] PEOPLES!!!!!!!!!! if we dont test the beta, it wont be released!! TEST TEST TEST!!! URGENT!!! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all [12:46] quadrispro: ScottL TheMuso persia astraljava abogani holstein ^^ [12:48] jussi, emailing ubuntu italian testing team about that, I am not able to test anything now :( [12:48] quadrispro: thanks [14:58] my ignorance may be slightly embarrasing but i really would like to understand this process [14:59] the beta ISO was made available two days (i think) and there's pressure to get the ISO testing before the end of today? [14:59] are we expected to test the ISO's before it's offical release? is this just for the Beta and RC? [15:00] jussi, TheMuso, persia ^^^ [15:01] hi scott-work [15:01] scott-work: i'm thinking of making an ubuntustudio liveDVD soon, just for fun [15:02] falktx: holstein was mentioned this as well, that would be awesome i think [15:02] falktx: how do you build your current ISO's? remastersys and then host the ISO on sourceforge? [15:02] scott-work: i'm making kxstudio from scratch now (was previously based on kubuntu), so I now know how to do it [15:02] scott-work: scratch, really start from nothing [15:02] how would you make the liveDVD? remastersys or similar? [15:03] i can show you my little script [15:03] falktx: but how do you actually build the ISO? [15:03] falktx: yes please [15:03] scott-work: everything is made on a chroot [15:03] hmmm, i think i may have read something about this on the wiki.ubuntu.com [15:04] scott-work: first installing the basic packages, then keep adding new ones (usually just 1 or 2 metapackages that depends on everything else) [15:04] scott-work: yes, i got some info from there too [15:04] scott-work: then the ISO is just made using ubuntu stuff as base (artwork, grubfx, syslinux, boot, etc) [15:05] i just modify the artwork and text to KXStudio [15:06] I couldnt make a custom alternate dvd though... [15:06] scott-work: the scripts - http://ppa.launchpad.net/falk-t-j/kxstudio/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kxstudio-scripts/kxstudio-scripts_0.5~ppa2.tar.gz [15:06] scott-work: it's the 'kxstudio-create-iso' that you would want to look at [15:08] falktx: persia had mentioned that building a live cd would include using casper and ubuiqity, are you doing this as well [15:08] scott-work: yes [15:08] scott-work: you would need to theme the ubiquity though, or it will look exactly like the ubuntu installer [15:09] scott-work: making a live ISO it's usually simple as running these commands: [15:09] kxstudio-create-iso mount [15:09] kxstudio-create-iso squash [15:09] kxstudio-create-iso custom [15:09] (here install stuff) [15:09] kxstudio-create-iso custom_end [15:09] kxstudio-create-iso mkboot [15:10] kxstudio-create-iso mkart [15:10] kxstudio-create-iso md5sum [15:10] kxstudio-create-iso iso [15:10] and it's done [15:10] the mkboot and mkart steps are optional [15:13] scott-work: i should get a testing ISO build next week [15:14] scott-work: i'll let you know how it goes [15:14] sweet [15:15] scott-work: it is ok to add my ppa to it? [15:15] scott-work: maybe also calf-plugins git version [15:18] btw, I noticed a refresh of ubuntustudio-meta package [15:19] new apps coming? [15:27] falktx: we removed the -rt headers in us-meta as the -rt kernel has been removed from the archives [15:34] scott-work: oh, which kernel do you recommend? [15:37] falktx: -generic [15:37] falktx: the studio team needs to address a few issues with the kernel team about moving forward (which i completely forgot to do yesterday! arghh) [15:38] scott-work: i was thinking about putting 2.6.33-rt on the live dvd... [15:42] holstein: are you available to test the amd64 ISO images ? [15:54] scott-work: i'll be able to test it soon, as I'll format my laptop again once I build a new testing ISO... [15:56] scott-work: what do we need to test? [16:36] we basically need all the ISO images tested in the next day or so, falktx [16:36] i think i can handle the i386 this evening [16:36] scott-work: but I mean, just to check if it installs? or you need any specific testing? [16:37] checking the ISO is just to see if the image installs [16:37] i just learned from #ubuntu-release that there is a two or three day window that the iso.qa tests are intended to validate the iso images themselves [16:38] during the rest of the time before the next iso image release is for testing the OS, applications, settings, et al [16:38] ok, i'll test how jack is performing in a default maverick install [16:39] 64bit [16:41] jussi scott-work , when do these need to be tested? [16:42] i think i could do it sunday or monday [16:53] holstein: that is probably too late :( we'll find another way [16:54] scott-work: im going to join #ubuntu-release [16:54] and see [16:54] i can probably do some today [16:54] * holstein is checking schedule :) [17:04] yeah, im gonna make it happen today [17:05] the amd64 's [17:06] scott-work jussi this iso correct? [17:06] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/current/ [17:18] holstein: try this one: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all [17:20] scott-work: but thats the iso right? [17:20] the daily? [17:25] i'm not sure actually, presumably it should be...you could compare the md5sums [17:25] hmmm [17:25] comapare them with? [17:25] im not seeing any indication at iso tracker as to what iso to test [17:26] maybe you or jussi just dropped me a link last time or something [17:26] i cant remember how i knew which version to get [17:27] holstein: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4523 [17:28] :) [17:28] on the link i had given before , first click on the 64bit test, then look for the picture of an arrow pointed down over a cd (near the top) [17:28] it's kinda a crappy and hidden link :( [17:29] coloring it red or blue or fuscua (sp?) or mauve or even aubergine would be nicer [17:32] * holstein vaguely rembering something like that now [17:32] ANYWAYS, thanks scott-work [17:33] i didnt want to do all this work on the wrong ISO :0 [17:33] holstein: LOL, yeah, that would have been teh sux [17:39] scott-work jussi [17:39] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4529 [17:39] thats for the i386 one [17:39] This build wasn't found on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20100902.1/maverick-alternate-i386.iso (may no longer exists) [17:41] i'm seeing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4524 for i386 which does download [17:41] scott-work: thanks [17:43] but i should be able to get the i386 this evening if you don't want to worry about and focus on the amd64 [17:44] 12:25 < cjwatson> holstein: as long as you test 20100902.1 not 20100902 [17:44] scott-work: i think thats the older one [17:44] scott-work: its not me [17:44] gah...yeah and now i see more images coming from email :/ [17:45] somebody else in -release was trying to DL it [17:49] yeah, i just wasnt in yet [17:49] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4529 [17:49] that is working now [17:49] cool [17:49] holstein: but please focus on amd64 first, i can always get teh i386 this evening myself [17:50] * holstein not doing any i386 [17:50] but maybe that guy in -release will do all the 386 stuff while your at work :) [17:53] that would be sweet as well :) [17:54] and thanks holstein , i really appreciate doing this [18:56] scott-work, There is a test phase to confirm the final ISOs. [18:57] persia: that is what i understand now after talking with ara and cjwatson in #ubuntu-release [18:57] my misunderstanding what the time table and purpose [18:58] Ah, OK. I'm still behind on backscroll, but glad you got good answers from folks who know more details than I. [18:58] hi guys! [18:58] hi persia, scott-work [18:58] hi quadrispro ! [18:59] scott-work, naspro is sitting in Debian NEW :( [18:59] I've packaged naspro-core, naspro-bridges-bad and permafrost [18:59] i'm guessing there is a reason it's sitting there rather than moving on? [19:00] yep, squeeze is frozen and there are more important things to manage for now [19:01] oh, i've been meaning to bug you about quadrispro [19:01] when you are looking forward for new things to package, can you update the swh-plugin ? [19:01] I remember that I had a look some time ago... [19:02] ahh! [19:02] scott-work, talking about this? http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/swh-plugins.html [19:02] i think the current version in the archives do not include the lv2 plugins [19:03] quadrispro: yes, that should be it :) [19:03] so swh-plugins provides sources for LV2 stuff? [19:04] if the package does, we can fix it on Ubuntu [19:05] * quadrispro away for just 8-10 minutes [19:10] scott-work: SO [19:10] these are failing for me [19:10] at the 'select and install software' step [19:10] argh, sorry quadrispro, i might be wrong about swh lv2 stuff...i apparently misread swh's website, it looks like we might already have the lv2 stuff in ubuntu, i'll check it out this weekend [19:10] and thats with me *not* selecting any packages [19:10] * holstein confirmed the md5 [19:10] ok [19:11] holstein: i ran into the same problem two nights ago with the i386 [19:11] i had hoped that updating ubuntustudio-meta would fix that :( [19:12] holstein: can you report the bug and link it in the ISO tracker? [19:12] i'l try [19:12] let me do the last one just to be done with it [19:13] scott-work: have you noticed a current bug report for it? [19:13] i know there is one for when you *do* select a certain package [19:14] holstein: i tried it both ways the other night and got a failure for installing software in both cases so the problem isn't with the actual software selection portion [19:14] so i would link to the same bug myself [19:14] * holstein will look for one [19:14] and make a new one if not [19:14] andd link it up :) [19:18] thanks again, holstein! [19:18] no problem [19:18] its really not a gruling as i was thining it wouldd be [19:19] and im going to leave my studio box in a state that makes it easier to test with it in the future [19:19] #628981 [19:19] bug 628981 [19:19] Launchpad bug 628981 in linux-rt (Ubuntu) "linux-headers-rt not installable breaks installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628981 [19:19] OH [19:19] is that the culprit [19:20] hmmm, i had expected this to be fixed by the respin because persia and i removed the -rt headers from the ubuntustudio-meta :( [19:23] Might have been a timing thing: it may be that the task generation script in launchpad (which defines the tasks) ran at a different-than-expected time. [19:24] persia: should i ask cjwatson for *another* respin but mention the us-meta update ? [19:24] * persia is checking caches [19:25] There's something ugly about the ubuntustudio tasks :( [19:27] N: Couldn't find task 'ubuntustudio-desktop' [19:27] `apt-cache show evince` doesn't show the ubuntustudio-desktop task, but "evince" clearly appears in ubuntustudio.maverick/desktop [19:29] Someone else may be able to figure out more, but I don't expect to be able to understand why it's behaving so oddly before we miss the final Beta deadline. [19:30] :/ [19:31] Indeed :( [19:32] who can we get? [19:32] JFo: ?? [19:38] ping me if i can help [19:38] i reported on all the test cases for amd64 [19:39] unfortunately, my back is up against a wall at work, maybe in about three hours i can spend more time [19:39] * scott-work has already spent more time today than i should on non-work related stuff :( [19:40] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4529/222 [19:40] that seems promising [20:04] holstein: thanks for interfacing with cjwatson about that :) [20:04] hopefully that fixes it [20:05] scott-work: im going to be a while though [20:05] but i'll just keek talking to cj about what im doing [20:06] i think as long as someone is testing, we're goodd [20:11] holstein? [20:11] you rang? [20:11] JFo: hey [20:11] i think i sorted it out [20:11] hiya [20:11] ah, cool [20:11] i grabbed an iso too early it seems :) [20:12] heh [20:12] which is an easy problem to remedy [20:17] * persia forwards bug #622583 to the archive-admins to complete the -rt removals. [20:17] Launchpad bug 622583 in linux-meta-rt (Ubuntu) "Remove the linux-meta-rt packages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622583 [22:51] we are good to go with 64bit iso tests :) [22:51] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4528 [23:09] actually, we're good with all of them :) [23:09] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4529