[00:25] <compilerwriter> Kontact has stopped saving new filters that I create and it no longer saves the changes to old filters I have edited.  Help!
[01:42] <bbigras> Is there an ubuntu package for krazy2?
[01:53] <DarthFrog> bbigras: you can always find out what packages are available to you with this command: apt-cache search | grep <name>
[02:01] <harmandeep> guys , -D option for CHATTR states that " the changes are written synchronously on the  disk " --- what does that means ???
[02:16] <Assimilator> hey guys has support for 7.04 feisty ended ? just installed it today as in intrim solution and the online repo seems to be not providing any updates ?
[02:21] <Assimilator> anyone awake
[02:26] <bbigras> DarthFrog: thanks
[02:28] <denisbr> Can I download the Kubuntu 10.10 beta, how the Ubuntu (with gnome) ??
[02:30] <PricklyPillow> What packages will get me opengl headers and libraries?
[02:34] <PricklyPillow> I installed mesa-dev
[03:10] <rackIT> I'm trying to remember the name of a CLI program used to derive various DNS related info from a domain. I used it on a BSD box a fews years back... any ideas what it may be called?
[04:26] <asusk501> salut
[04:37] <maple> 测试下 看谁能看懂我打的是什么  哈哈
[04:58] <MIRV-> anyone know of any howto's out there for kmail connection to exchange 2003?
[05:27] <ses59> is there a channel for virtualbox?
[05:48] <duryodhan> hi .. just added kubuntu-ppa/backports on my lucid install to get KDC 4.5. Should I be doing dist-upgrade or just upgrade ?
[05:49] <noaXess> duryodhan: good morning..
[05:49] <duryodhan> noaXess: hi
[05:50] <noaXess> duryodhan: first read this content https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa, specialy this bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/615902 and this one https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/601536
[05:51] <duryodhan> hmm
[05:51] <duryodhan> I should stay away then ?
[05:52] <duryodhan> I really want to use 4.5 .. the number of bugs fixed by KDE developers is really attractive
[06:07] <illunatic> !netselect
[06:07] <illunatic> !info netselect
[06:07] <illunatic> >:|
[06:08] <noaXess> hey illunatic wasup?  have you upgraded to DKE 4.5.1 too?
[06:09] <illunatic> noaXess: yeah i did
[06:09] <illunatic> 4.5.0 actually...
[06:09] <illunatic> was 4.5.1 jsut released?
[06:09] <noaXess> yes.. watch kubuntu website ;).. or rss
[06:09] <illunatic> i'm wanting to reinstall kubuntu but i don't want to wait 5+ hours to downlaod updates again
[06:10] <noaXess> illunatic: takes 5 minutes here..
[06:10] <illunatic> right now have some frankenstein hybrid of 2 different installs
[06:10] <illunatic> heh
[06:10] <illunatic> really?
[06:10] <illunatic> i'm in san francisco area
[06:11] <illunatic> i thought maybe netselect would help me find a better mirror
[06:11] <illunatic> is there something similar for kubuntu?
[06:11] <illunatic> i was getting like 70Kb/s last time
[06:12] <illunatic> i'm using kubuntu 8.10 DVD and then upgrading from there
[06:12] <noaXess> illunatic: wow that's slow.. i'm in switzerland. here all is fine
[06:12] <illunatic> yeah i don't understand why it's so slow at all
[06:12] <noaXess> illunatic: ok.. so some upgrades.. i would prefere to make a fresh install..
[06:13] <illunatic> yeah. any suggestions for finding a mirror that will do more than 70kb?
[06:13] <illunatic> 5+ hours doesn't seem reasonable, does it?
[06:14] <noaXess> illunatic: yeah.. hm...
[06:15] <illunatic> looks like it took 4 hours for this guy http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110976.0
[06:15] <illunatic> is that common?
[06:15] <noaXess> illunatic: normally not.. i think..
[06:16] <illunatic> it would be great if kubuntu used some kind of built in bittorrent protocol for package upgrades. ever single user has the packages already and they could opt-in
[07:07] <skramer_> Wanted to update from KDE SC 4.5.0 to 4.5.1. The update wants to remove libqt4-multimedia, because it depends of older versions of libqtcore4 and libqtgui4
[07:08] <skramer_> is that something wrong with the dependecies or is libqt4-multimedia no longer needed and thus safe to remove this package?
[07:21] <rackIT> any scripts around to make 4x behave like 3x (somewhat)? you know, konqueror for the default file browser, drag & drop from the menu, etc.
[07:22] <skramer_> rackIT: go to Systemsettings-> Standard Components & you could choose Konqueror for file management
[07:23] <rackIT> it took me the better part of a working day to get thing "proper". I don't want to spend seveal days on several machines on several logons to make everyone happy.
[07:24] <rackIT> can I copy ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 from the machine that is "good" to the other 4x installs?
[07:25] <skramer_> at least you could try ;-)
[07:26] <rackIT> skramer_: I'll have to let you know. Not tonight though! :)
[07:47] <skramer_> Riddell: libqt4-multimedia 4.7.0~beta2~ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa6 depends on same versions of libqtcore4 & libqtgui4, but upgrading KDE to 4.5.1 will install libqtcore & libqtgui4 4.7.0~ rc1~ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1
[07:48] <skramer_> Riddell: thus libqt4-multimedia would be removed whilst upgrading. Would that be okay or should I wait for an updated libqt4-multimedia?
[08:32] <tweakedeh> Hello, Iim trying to install keypas and I have a deb, when I run it I get Dependency is not satisgiable: plasmoid-keypas, so I try to instll that package in the terminal and I get no luck, What do I try next?
[08:33] <tweakedeh> kepas* sorry
[08:36] <FlashDeluxe> Hi! How can i copy the whole content of two disks on one other disk?
[09:07] <cato37> hello. what does it mean when there are 200 blocked updates in the kpackagekit?
[09:12] <X-2> Mornin everyone (:
[09:14] <cato37> g'morning x-2
[09:15] <X-2> how are you doing? :)
[09:15] <maple> mornin !
[09:15] <cato37> i am doing better. college classes. lots of late night homework. woohoo. in kpackage there are 200 blocked updates. is that normal?
[09:15] <X-2> I don't have that many blocked updates at least
[09:17] <X-2> I never use kpackage tbh, I prefer using terminal :p kpackage is bit weird sometimes..
[09:18] <cato37> ic. apt-get?
[09:18] <X-2> aye
[09:18] <X-2> apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade
[09:21] <seraphim1> hi
[09:21] <seraphim1> hello ... where is 4.5.1
[09:21] <cato37> interesting. after running kpackage, the dist upgrade in apt-get adds 3 more packages, and removes one. :)
[09:21] <X-2> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/packages-available-kde-platform-plasma-and-applications-451
[09:23] <X-2> seraphim1: Just follow the link I provided :)
[09:25] <X-2> cato37: Yeah a friend of mine also recommended me using apt-get over kpackage :p
[09:27] <cato37> X-2:  apt-get seems a bit more intuitive. and the command line is better for the memory than point-click interfacing.
[09:27] <X-2> True
[09:29] <cato37> and apt-get just added almost a gig of progs--mostly kde stuff.
[09:29] <seraphim1> nice... what sources i have to include in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:29] <seraphim1> for 4.5.1
[09:29] <seraphim1> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[09:29] <seraphim1> i have this
[09:30] <azfk> i was wondering if anyone could help with fixing a dual-boot set-up
[09:30] <X-2> seraphim1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu --> add: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[09:35] <seraphim1> what the hell.... i'm a commandline junky, so i dont like add remove software with graph tool ... bäh
[09:35] <cato37> keen. upgrade finished. some of my desktop went monochrome--brb. rebootinng.
[09:35] <seraphim1> what is the the souce for /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:36] <seraphim1> what you guy's think about 4.5.1 ?
[09:36] <greenmang0> seraphim1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu lucid main
[09:36] <X-2> Don't really feel any difference but hey, it was only bugfixes :)
[09:37] <X-2> (I think.)
[09:38] <seraphim1> yes....
[09:38] <seraphim1> i like some more bugfixes
[09:38] <azfk> can anyone help with fixing a dual-boot
[09:38] <seraphim1> if i have a pictureframe plasma, startup is very slow....
[09:40] <seraphim1> thanks greenmang0
[09:44] <cato37> keen. i like the frosted oxygen.
[10:23] <torotil> hi, what's the easiest way to find out with which configure options a package was built? (ie. packages from the kubuntu-ppa)
[10:37] <skramer_> is it safe to let aptitude remove libqt4-multimedia during upgrade to KDE SC 4.5.1, what is this package for and why is it still only as beta2 available, not as rc1?
[11:04] <enderw99> kmail cannot create a connection. latest beta from ubuntu repositories.
[11:17] <Riddell> skramer_: hmm
[12:04] <nemo__> aaa
[12:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:21] <X-2> morning
[12:24] <skramer_> Riddell: Seems somebody already reported a bug on Launchpad (#629349). Btw. I'm also on amd64 same as this guy...
[12:26] <ubuntu_> hola
[12:31] <Riddell> skramer_: libqt4-multimedia has been removed by upstream, so the question is why apt thinks it's still needed
[12:32] <skramer_> Riddell: no, it suggests removal which would be fine, then. I just was not sure if it can be safely removed ;-)
[12:33] <Riddell> skramer_: the problem seems to be python-qt4-dbg still depends on it
[12:36] <lenardk> Can someone help me with installing NVIdia drivers? I want to know, should I remove xserver-xorg-video-nv befeore installing Nvidia drivers?
[12:37] <skramer_> Riddell: I don't seem to have python-qt4-dbg installed, so for me it should be okay to upgrade. Not sure about other people who need python-qt4-dbg, though.
[12:39] <lenardk> Anyone?
[12:41] <Riddell> lenardk: no don't remove that
[12:42] <lenardk> Riddell: I have issues with it. I had to do clean install. I could not make Nvidia driver work... So I am not sure what to do now.
[12:44] <lenardk> What about xserver-xorg-video-nouveau? I want to install proprietary drivers.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> lenardk,  you have to stop X in order to install a new driver, http://pastebin.com/nk0JGive
[12:46] <BluesKaj> lenardk, that tutorial is for mosyt newer nvidia cards , within the last 3 yrs or so
[12:47] <BluesKaj> and proprietary drivers aren't any better , in some cases worse than the kernel source . lenardk
[12:47] <lenardk> BluesKaj: Can I use Additional drivers to that? Or do I really need to what you said.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ok lenardk , which nvidia card do you have?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> lenardk, lspci | grep VGA , in the terminal
[12:50] <lenardk> nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7300 GT], before upgred from Lucid to 10.10 I never had any problems with it.
[12:51] <markit> hi, 10.04, I've upgraded kde to 4.5.1, but now after login I have a black screen and the mouse cursor alone :( Any idea?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> lenardk, ok you should be asking in #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 support , but I would try the tutorial that pastebinned above with the 7300gt , it should work
[12:54] <gnomefreak> nvidia is broken on Maverick the fix was commited but not pushed.
[12:55] <lenardk> Ok, I'll see what I can do.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> the X-swat PPA should help most problems with it
[12:55] <lenardk> gnomefreak, so I should wait for an update?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> lenardk: yes
[12:56] <lenardk> X-swat ppa, shoud I use that?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> you need lenardk you can but i cant promise it will help you. you need to wait until nvidia-current version  256.52
[12:57] <James147> BluesKaj: hey, could you link that tutorial again (just joined) want to see who my systems gona break when i upgrade :)
[12:57] <BluesKaj> lenardk, aha so you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[12:57] <gnomefreak> if it is nvidia you should wait
[12:57] <BluesKaj> James147, upgrading to ?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> give me a couple of minutes i will have things you will want
[12:58] <James147> BluesKaj: eventually maverick... but not just yet (still want to know anyproblems that might appear with that card though)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> and yes move to #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <BluesKaj> James147, that tutorial is for lucid , dunno if it works on maverick
[12:58] <James147> ahh, then nevermind :) working fine atm
[12:58] <gnomefreak> James147: join #ubuntu+1 same for lenardk
[12:59] <lenardk> gnomefreak: Ok I'll ask for help in ubuntu+1, I never had problems with this. If nvidia does not work with 10.10 there is nothing we can do I guess. Thanks
[12:59] <James147> gnomefreak: I know, was just courious about teh link :)
[13:00] <BluesKaj> I tried maverick , couldn't rely on it ...was crashing alot , that was early days tho...a month ago or so
[13:00] <gnomefreak> James147: i have 2 links one is in the topic of #ubuntu+1
[13:01] <BluesKaj> didn't try it with my server which has the nvidia graphics tho
[13:02] <markit> let's say I'm desperate and want to reinstall all kde desktop, what package do I have to remove and reinstall?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> markit, try the pervious kernel in grub , maybe you'll get a bash prompt at least so you continue the dist-upgrade in kde, it needs at least a couple of them to bring everything in.
[13:05] <James147> markit: generally doing a reinstall of kubuntu-desktop should be enough... if not and your fine with command line I would drop to a vertiual terminal and start removing the kde packages (once the base packages are removed allot of things that depend on them will also be removed) you can then install kubuntu-desktop again to get them back
[13:05] <markit> BluesKaj: I can login in console no problem for that
[13:06] <James147> markit: but before that your problem is probally fixable :)
[13:06] <markit> James147: I've tried re-adding owner and group to all files in /home/myuser
[13:06] <markit> now I try to aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[13:06] <James147> markit: when loged in can you launch krunner? (alt+f2)
[13:07] <BluesKaj> markit, then continue with the upgrade , I had to run it at least 3 times to get all the depends work
[13:07] <markit> btw, I've no "kubuntu-desktop" package installed
[13:07] <James147> markit: install it
[13:08] <markit> mm it brings with it network-manager, I fear will mess up my networking config
[13:08] <markit> let's try anyway
[13:08] <James147> markit: what do you have instead of network-manager?
[13:09] <markit> BluesKaj: me too when upgraded to 4.5. This pc upgraded from 4.4 to 4.5.1 and proceeded smootly
[13:09] <BluesKaj> NM will just show an unmnanaged state . markit
[13:09] <markit> James147: manually edited interfaces and resolv.conf
[13:09] <James147> markit: dont think it will interfere with them... if it does just uninstall it again :0
[13:10] <markit> kdebase-workspace-bin was not installed... I thing I'm on the right way with your suggestions
[13:11] <markit> GREAT!!!!
[13:11] <JohnHeikkila> Hey, I need help with language-pack-en dependency problems
[13:11] <markit> James147: , BluesKaj thanks A LOT
[13:11] <BluesKaj> who uses konversation here? if so how do I get rid of this annoying OSD preview tag that keeps popping up ...searched and searched and found nothing to rid me of it.
[13:12] <markit> BluesKaj: I've the same problem with it
[13:12] <BluesKaj> ok markit , so it sould be abug then ...good to know
[13:12] <markit> I mean, should appear only when I'm not with konversation active (focused)
[13:12] <ddavids> hi all, pls i have no shutdown or restart option under the leave icon, how do i add them pls?
[13:12] <markit> BluesKaj: I've the bad feeling that is a "feature"
[13:13] <BluesKaj> yeah markit , anothere useless feature :)
[13:13] <James147> ddavids: logined in from a vertial terminal or from kdm?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> ddavids, you have to logout then quit ..logged in wuth the terminal probly
[13:16] <markit> BluesKaj: do you want to disable completely? is on the notification setup
[13:16] <ddavids> i logged in frm kdm
[13:16] <markit> BluesKaj: I instead would love to have work only when konversation is not focused
[13:16] <markit> BluesKaj: in the notification setup the items with a blue circle with "i" will go to temporary popup window
[13:17] <ddavids> James147: i looged in frm kdm
[13:17] <BluesKaj> markit, ok thanks , looking
[13:20] <BluesKaj> markit, strange ,disappeared as soon as I clicked on it the blue "i"
[13:22] <jtheuer> did anyone successful upgrade to kde 4.5 (with kubuntu lucid)
[13:22] <James147> jtheuer: along time ago :)
[13:22] <markit> mm here I have to select the item, then uncheck the "i" in the bottom part of the dialog
[13:22] <James147> although just about to up to 4.5.1
[13:23] <BluesKaj> jtheuer, yes , I just upgraded to 4.5.1 as well, without incident
[13:25] <James147> ddavids: could you try creating a new user and see if they have the same problem
[13:25] <BluesKaj> I'm amazed that I'm not crashing as much as last week on this old pc . with the crappy graphics card I'm running :)
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ddavids, what graphics card /
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:26] <X-2> heh, /sysinfo ?
[13:26] <X-2> :p
[13:27] <James147> X-2: ?
[13:27] <Baim> hai all
[13:27] <Baim> newcomer... ^_^
[13:27] <BluesKaj> X-2, lspci perhaps
[13:28] <Baim> Happy Ramadhan For all Muslim ...
[13:28] <James147> !hi | Baim
[13:28] <Baim> hi james
[13:29] <X-2> BluesKaj: oh my irc client gives all info when I type /sysinfo :)
[13:30] <BluesKaj> X-2, then do it in the server textbox
[13:33] <jtheuer> BluesKaj: good to hear. so just add the backports and calling dist-upgrade should do the trick, right?
[13:34] <James147> jtheuer: adding the backports ppa, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:34] <BluesKaj> jtheuer, yes, run this in the terminal , the dist-upgrade, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[13:34] <BluesKaj> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:34] <James147> jtheuer: and if you feel like being extra safe "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" after :) but that should be uneeded
[13:37] <jtheuer> BluesKaj: thanks, didn't know add-repo until now... nice feature
[13:38] <BluesKaj> jtheuer, I forgot to mention , sudo apt-get update first then dist-upgrade
[13:39] <BluesKaj> James147, had the right sequence ...din't mean to confuse
[13:40] <James147> :)
[13:40] <amichair> is there some way to configure sync to vblank in kdm effects thingy?
[13:41] <James147> BluesKaj: we managed to get it all between us :D
[13:41] <amichair> I get terrible tearing on second display with effects on, and it goes away with effects off, and I read there is such a setting in compiz... how do I do it in kdm?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> hehe , I hope so :)
[13:42] <BluesKaj> system settings/desktop effects , amichair ...I have to state the obvious
[13:42] <James147> amichair: there is a "Use VSync" on the opengl options on the advanced tab of the desktop effects config window
[13:44] <amichair> I don't see a way to specify which monitor to sync to...
[13:44] <James147> amichair: there isnt one...
[13:45] <amichair> too bad :-(
[13:45] <amichair> in nvidia-settings and compiz settings there is such an option, and I read it fixes things
[13:45] <amichair> for kdm I guess I'll have to turn off effects whenever I want to watch a video
[13:45] <James147> amichair: do you have an nvidia card?
[13:45] <amichair> yep
[13:46] <James147> amichair: then why not use nvidia settings?
[13:46] <James147> (assuming your using the nvidia drivers)
[13:46] <amichair> James147: it needs to be set both in nvidia settings and compositing engine
[13:46] <James147> :S
[13:46] <amichair> I found instructions for compiz, and looking for equivalent in kdm
[13:47] <James147> (and i take it you ahve already set it in nvidia settings then?)
[13:47] <amichair> sure
[13:47] <BluesKaj> oops, enabling desktop effects , effectively crashed my desktop :)
[13:47] <amichair> BluesKaj: then I guess I should be thankful it works at all :-)
[13:48] <amichair> btw do opengl options affect video playback (e.g. VLC)?
[13:48] <James147> amichair: there is a toggle effects plasmoid if your not already using it :)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> amichair, my graphics card is an elcheapo onboard ati x200m ... can't handle the load
[13:50] <BluesKaj> this pc needs to run cpu at full bore, ondemand is too slow to respond
[13:50] <amichair> James147: where do I find the plasmoid?
[13:51] <James147> amichair: "sudo aptitude install plasma-widget-toggle-compositin"
[13:51]  * James147 restart x quickly...
[13:53]  * BluesKaj attempts to enable desktop effects without crashing ...here goes
[13:55] <amichair> James147: that ought to make it convenient enough - thanks
[13:57] <BluesKaj> darn, lost the toolbars and panel
[13:57] <James147> amichair: there is also a dbus command that and toggle the effects, (and a few scripts that allow you to stop/start it online using dbus as well as wrapers for stopping/starting it around programs)
[13:57] <James147> BluesKaj: bah, you dont need them :D
[13:58] <BluesKaj> can't move anything , no exit/close options
[13:58] <James147> BluesKaj: kwin died? now you need that
[13:58] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:58] <James147> Thourght you ment plasma
[13:59] <James147> BluesKaj: good luck getting it back :) not the easiest thing to do when you cannot control your windows...
[14:00]  * James147 wonders if "kwin --replace" works from a vertual terminal... doupts it
[14:00]  * James147 goes off to try
[14:00] <BluesKaj> whoa fonts are broken and unreadable
[14:01] <BluesKaj> brb
[14:11] <booklet> hello i try to install ubunto 10.04 on a nokia booklet everything is fine except the screen withe a poor 800x600 resolution = any solution ?
[14:12] <James147> booklet: ubuntu or kubuntu? (head to #ubuntu if your on ubuntu)
[14:13] <booklet> thanks ;)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> this ondemand cpu state isn't cutting it and the performance setting only holds for one session ... need a startup or init.d script to make the cpu run in the performance mode permanently
[14:25] <rek> 1 hour and 9 minutes for 15 gb is it too much? eth to eth ?
[14:36] <inawarminister> Hello! ~
[14:36] <inawarminister> I want to ask something;
[14:37] <inawarminister> Is it possible to only display one desktop-worth of windows in the task manager?
[14:37] <inawarminister> So... If I am using the Desktop 1, only applications there showed up in the Task manager
[14:38] <inawarminister> If Desktop 2, the desktop 1's applications are hidden.
[14:38] <inawarminister> Is this possible in KDE?
[14:38] <James147> inawarminister: yes... you can do that by right clicking (an empty part) of the task manager widget > Task Manager settings
[14:39] <inawarminister> Thanks, james147! Will try it!
[14:39] <inawarminister> Am going to*
[14:39] <inawarminister> Thank you very much~
[14:43] <wiqin> pls how can i install tar.bz2? im not understand installation instructions
[14:43] <inawarminister> Wiqin: Ehm, building from source?
[14:44] <inawarminister> Auuh... Open Office is stuck :<
[14:44] <James147> wiqin: tar.bz2 is a compressed archive (some what like zip is in window)
[14:44] <inawarminister> How could I kill a process in KDE?
[14:44] <inawarminister> I mean, force-kill
[14:44] <James147> inawarminister: "killall <processname>
[14:44] <James147> "
[14:45] <inawarminister> Is there are no Windows-style Task Manager?
[14:45] <James147> inawarminister: "Ctrl+Esc"
[14:45] <James147> ^^ I just find it quicker to use killall :)
[14:45] <inawarminister> Uoh thank you very much!
[14:47] <inawarminister> One more question: Is there any less-intensive Office programs?
[14:47] <inawarminister> Other than OO.org? -_- it hangs my -- sucky-- computer :<
[14:47] <James147> inawarminister: not really... you could try koffice (although I found it lagged alittle on a very large document)
[14:48] <James147> inawarminister: otherwise textfiles are very handy and light :)
[14:48] <inawarminister> Huhuh, shame ppt is such a large bag of suckness
[14:49] <inawarminister> ... James147, what is usually the reason for slowness?
[14:49] <inawarminister> Slow HDD, or Slow RAM?
[14:49] <James147> inawarminister: in OO.org... I blame java personally....
[14:49] <inawarminister> (I know that 2.0 GHz P4 ^should^ be adequate enough, no?)
[14:49] <James147> should be :)
[14:50] <inawarminister> Java -_-
[14:50] <James147> inawarminister: how big is the document?
[14:50] <inawarminister> Only 23.4 MB
[14:50] <inawarminister> Wait, MiB
[14:50] <inawarminister> But there are many linked pictures and VIDEOS
[14:51] <James147> inawarminister: that might do it... not sure waht oo is doing with all the links :)
[14:51] <James147> inawarminister: give koffice a try, see if its any better
[14:51] <inawarminister> Haha, thank you very much
[14:51] <inawarminister> Koffice is programmed in Qt, no?
[14:52] <James147> kde ^^ which is built on qt
[14:52] <inawarminister> Thank you very much!
[14:53] <James147> inawarminister: or for a really light weight approch you can code it in latex using the beamer class :)  (can probude a pdf of the slides... although without animation)
[14:53] <inawarminister> Ah, well, thanks. But I'll just try Koffice first
[14:53] <James147> :)
[14:54] <inawarminister> Ah, one more question: Is there any plan of 2007 clone?
[14:54] <James147> inawarminister: clone?
[14:54] <inawarminister> Err... As in, the ribbon and all that
[14:54] <inawarminister> Office 2007
[14:55] <inawarminister> Because I'm really, really productive with it when compared to OO and Koffice --
[14:55] <James147> inawarminister: not as far as I know in oo, or koffice (although I did see an intresting screen shot of koffice with something similar but havent actually seen it)
[14:56] <inawarminister> Eh, James147, what should I do if my external HDD is not automatically mounted -- nor available in device plugged in notification?
[14:56] <James147> +koffice has lots of docks which make it some what better
[14:56] <James147> inawarminister: can you mount it manually?
[14:56] <inawarminister> How'so? I'm afraid I'm still very much a n00b. -_-
[14:57] <James147> inawarminister: can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid -c /dev/null"
[14:58] <inawarminister> /dev/sda1: UUID="cbeb19d2-fee1-413b-b567-7d3a957d5b12" TYPE="ext4"
[14:58] <inawarminister> /dev/sda5: UUID="bde9c684-677c-4d39-b751-b9e2d93bee57" TYPE="swap"
[14:58] <inawarminister> Uuuh... Damnit
[14:58] <inawarminister> If I'm not wrong, the HDD was formatted in NTFS
[14:59] <James147> inawarminister: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[14:59] <James147> !pastebin
[15:00] <inawarminister> http://paste.ubuntu.com/487805/
[15:00] <James147> inawarminister: looks like you only have one hdd :)
[15:01] <inawarminister> Perhaps the USB hub is at fault? hmm
[15:01] <James147> inawarminister: was it on a seperate hdd or just a partition?
[15:01] <inawarminister> It's an EXTERNAL HDD... >.<
[15:01] <James147> inawarminister: yeah... check all the cables and hardware connections :)
[15:02] <inawarminister> Ah, yeah, the hub was at fault
[15:02] <inawarminister> It works now! Mounted! Yaaay! Thanks James147!
[15:02] <inawarminister> I thought it was a compat. problem, but seems not, eh>
[15:02] <James147> inawarminister: looked like a hardware problem :)
[15:03] <inawarminister> No, it's all fixed and up now. Mounted!
[15:03] <James147> inawarminister: it was a hardware problem :) which is now fixed
[15:03] <inawarminister> Yesh~
[15:03] <inawarminister> Oh yeah, damnit, I forgot I installed a Ubuntu 8.10 a year ago in this HDD :~
[15:04] <inawarminister> So that's why it's full as hell :|
[15:05] <James147> inawarminister:  :) well dont think yo uneed 8.10 anymore :)
[15:05] <inawarminister> Yes, I'm going to delete the formation, then.
[15:05]  * James147 is sure thatone is past its end of life
[15:05]  * inawarminister agrees
[15:06] <inawarminister> That makes it a wasted 10 GB! Recovering it! ... After sleep, tomorrow, then
[15:06] <inawarminister> Thanks very much for the help, james147!
[15:07] <BluesKaj> !cookie | James147
[15:07] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:07]  * James147 eats the cookie 
[15:07] <James147> :D
[15:09] <BluesKaj> still trying to defeat the default cpu state 'ondemand" ...it's too slow to respond to loading
[15:09] <James147> BluesKaj: then I take it changing it in power magament isnt working?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> sooner use some extra energy to keep the system running better, even if it draws more power
[15:10] <BluesKaj> power management sucks , James147 , never really seen that work properlu for desktops , laptops benefit but not pcs
[15:13] <BluesKaj> brb
[15:26] <BluesKaj> cpu is still not holding it's settings , even after editing /etc/default/cpufrequtils and frequtils in /etc/init.d ... this has to be a bug or is it to prevent ppl from burning up their mobo/cpus ?  :)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> "sudo /usr/bin/cpufreq-set -g performance", will set the cpu to performance for the session but there doesn't seem to be apermanent setting for the performance state
[15:42] <xorgpisser> Ubum2 - bloated build of LIzards' New UniX, designed for schools. K prefix stands for Kamikaze Desktop Enviromment
[15:42] <xorgpisser> lol
[16:17] <clicman> hi all
[16:55] <Spacewalker> Hey!
[17:31] <ubuntufreak> Anyone know about a working desktop client for microblogging Kubuntu 10.04 ?
[17:32] <gobnuts> ubuntufreak: chokoq
[17:33] <ubuntufreak> gobnuts: chokoq doesn't work for me it is not retrieving any messages
[17:33] <gobnuts> on twitter?
[17:34] <ubuntufreak> yes
[17:34] <gobnuts> twitter switched to OAuth, you need to upgrade to chokoq beta 2 or beta 3
[17:34] <gobnuts> beta 2 is available through a ppa
[17:35] <ubuntufreak> oh ok mine is beta 1 will switch to beta 3 and try
[17:35] <gobnuts> should work
[17:36] <gobnuts> after install, remove your twitter account and add it again, it'll be self-explanatory from there
[17:36] <ubuntufreak> gobnuts: would be helpful if you could point me to the right ppa link
[17:36] <gobnuts> hold on
[17:37] <James147> !info blogilo
[17:37] <ubuntufreak> sure
[17:41] <gobnuts> I use the beta 2 from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~adilson/+archive/experimental
[17:41] <gobnuts> couldn't find a beta 3 from a ppa either
[17:41] <simulacrum> !info chokoq
[17:42] <ubuntufreak> gobnuts: thanks will try to compile from the source
[17:42] <gobnuts> oh, and looks like the beta 3 is currently building in the ppa
[17:42] <gobnuts> should be coming soon then
[17:43] <gobnuts> that's always an option
[17:43] <ubuntufreak> gobnuts: yeah but it would be easy to install from the ppa once its live
[17:44] <gobnuts> well, beta 2 (works with twitter oauth) is in that repo, beta 3 seems to be building and will get updated once it's done
[17:45] <gobnuts> so, this would be the easiest way I guess
[17:46] <ubuntufreak> will try the beta 2 from the ppa then, thanks for the help !
[17:46] <gobnuts> np
[17:48] <tasslehoff> I've installed 64-bit K+Ubuntu and have / and /home partitions in an encrypted partition. Is it possible with the alternate installer to reinstall 32-bit K+Ubuntu on / and keep the contents of /home?
[17:49] <James147> tasslehoff: should be... although I havnt used encryption before
[17:50] <James147> tasslehoff: (at least I assume you mean you have / on one partition and /home in a different partition)
[17:52] <tasslehoff> James147: yep, but both inside the encrypted lvm volume
[17:52] <tasslehoff> James147: found a highly relevant post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823929 :)
[17:52] <Riddell> tasslehoff: yes that's fine if / and /home are on separate partitions
[17:56] <ubuntufreak> gobnuts: the beta 2 works fine with twitter, thanks again !
[17:56] <gobnuts> ubuntufreak: good to hear!
[18:02] <tasslehoff> Riddell: great,
[18:02] <tasslehoff> gtg :)
[18:07] <bb__> Where can I get help to specific grafical issues in Ubuntu?
[18:10] <simulacrum> graphical means driver/video card issues or problems with specific graphical software?
[18:10] <simulacrum> bb__
[18:11] <bb__> simulacrum: my screen is not working (blank or flickers, depending on the monitor it is connected to)
[18:12] <bb__> simulacrum:  ubuntu (for the moment) is installed - a friend got his monitor somehow working and installed it, but it does not work for me
[18:13] <simulacrum> This channel is for Kubuntu support, for Ubuntu see #ubuntu, if that the one you're using
[18:14] <bb__> simulacrum: this problem is unspecific to *Ubuntu - i can install remotely Kubuntu desktop if you like - just wondering where to find the *Ubuntu grafic-issues-folks for support...
[18:15] <simulacrum> from what I know there is no such channel, you can go to UbuntuForums.org and there should be a section
[18:16] <simulacrum> bb__: also if you have Ubuntu you should ask in #ubuntu, if you have Kubuntu you should ask in #kubuntu
[18:16] <simulacrum> even if it's not specific.. that's why there are 2 channels
[18:17] <bb__> ok - thx
[18:27] <gamer_> wher i can get softwares for kubuntu?
[18:28] <James147> gamer_: kpackagekit can download and install programs... otherwise yo need to be more specific
[18:29] <gamer_> yes programs
[18:33] <gamer_> does there is a site for programs
[18:33] <gamer_> ?
[18:33] <gamer_> debian
[18:34] <James147> !software | gamer_
[18:35] <gamer_> thank you
[18:46] <kaddi> Hi :) I need help with firefox. When I open a text file from the downloads-window it is always opened with notepad in wine. How can I change that to open with kate?
[18:47] <kaddi> I have already set the application for txt to kate
[18:49] <James147> kaddi: in firefoxes prefences or kdes settings?
[18:49] <kaddi> in firefox preferences
[18:49] <kaddi> should be set that way in kde as well, lemme check
[18:51] <kaddi> James147: first is always kate and I moved notepad to last on all the text-related file associations
[18:52] <James147> kaddi: I take it that they open in kate if clicked in dolphin? (if so then I would think its a problem in firefox)
[18:54] <kaddi> yes, actually I think I know it is, James147. KDE and Gnome don't have the same way of defining file association, which breaks firefox and kde related communication with every other update from kde or firefox. I was just hoping someone in here might now a fix
[18:54] <kaddi> cause i frequently download text files and it's always a pain to wait till wine and notepad get going
[18:54] <kaddi> not to mention the pain to look at that notepad
[18:55] <nickel> rewritten mbr....how to get to load kde? is it possible  through the use of EasyBCD? I'm using vista
[19:00] <simulacrum> nickel: maybe, you should try and see, if not use boot in LiveCD and install Grub to MBR
[19:02] <Matisse> hi
[19:03] <Matisse> I thought that vmware and stuff like that is supposed to run a different OS which is already installed, but with that I wrong, right?
[19:05] <Matisse> and if I'm wrong, is there a non-harmful way to install a windows xp on my linux pc? It has already a ntfs partition (first partition on the first hd)
[19:05] <James147> Matisse: virtual mechiene software is ment to run a os inside another os... most dont run preexisting installs but instead set up a virtual computer inwhich you can install an os to
[19:05] <Matisse> ohh
[19:05] <Matisse> James147, thats great, i can install one...
[19:06] <Matisse> i'll try that way. dont wanna destroy my grub
[19:06] <James147> Matisse: you might also want to look at virtualbox... i found that easier to workwith then vmware :)
[19:07] <Matisse> actually i was trying qemu
[19:08] <alacer> virtualbox is awesome
[19:09] <Matisse> I'll have a look at that one too :)
[19:16] <kaddi> James147: I asked the mozillateam and it turns out that there is a package called kmozillahelper that will fix the file association issues (and prolly other things). It gets installed when you use firefox-kubuntu-installer but not if you install firefox directly
[19:19] <James147> kaddi: hmm, intresting to note :)
[19:19] <kaddi> :)
[19:22] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[19:22] <Peace-> hi phoenix_
[19:22] <phoenix_> hello Peace
[19:25] <phoenix_> i want to disable the pop up notifications while using kopete. it is very annoying while in yahoo chat rooms
[19:40] <Matisse> can someone tell where I find the "bash init" files  (3rd sentence here: http://blog.macromates.com/2008/working-with-history-in-bash/ )
[19:43] <cuznt> !bash
[19:44] <kaddi> looks like that should be in ~/.bashrc? I got half the lines he mentions in there by default
[19:51] <Matisse> kaddi, hopefully it might work for me too
[20:01] <Chicano> Hi everyone
[20:02] <Chicano> is anybody having trouble with updating to kde 4.5.1? Over here most packages are blockes
[20:03] <James147> Chicano: you cannot do it in kpackagekit, in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:04] <alacer> does kde 4.5.1 support multiple monitors?
[20:04] <Chicano> why is the dist-upgrade necessary? why doesn't an upgrade work?
[20:06] <James147> Chicano: because it allows packages to beinstalled/removed on an upgrade (it is not upgrading your distro version... despite what its called)
[20:07] <James147> alacer: most kde 4.x version supported multiple monitors if i remember right (4.4 and later defently do)
[20:08] <Chicano> James147: It's upgrading now. Thanks for the explanation and the help :)
[20:20] <alacercogitatus> my 4.4.2 kde does not.....
[20:22] <James147> alacercogitatus: what graphics card do you have/driver are you using?
[20:23] <alacercogitatus> James147, I have a Nvidia Quadro NVS 450, and I am using the proprietary driver.
[20:24] <James147> alacercogitatus: nvidia-settings should beable to setup dual screen then
[20:24] <alacercogitatus> But what is weird is that it works in gnome with my xorg.conf as is.....
[20:24] <James147> (run as root: "kdesudo nvidia-settings")
[20:24] <alacercogitatus> should use same xorg.conf right?
[20:25] <James147> alacercogitatus: should... not sure why it wouldnt work though... its working fine here
[20:26] <alacercogitatus> odd. I tried setting up multiple monitors using the kde control panel, but it says that its not supported.... :( I like some of the features of kde, but have to use gnome.
[20:27] <James147> alacercogitatus: are you using twinview?
[20:28] <alacercogitatus> Kinda, the NVS 450 is a 4-head with hdmi. It shows itself as 2 dual-heads.
[20:29] <alacercogitatus> I have it set for 4 seperate x screens. No drag between monitors :( I tried using xinerama, but it kept crashing my system
[20:34] <James147> alacercogitatus: well, the "multiple monitors" dialog in kde is used for things like twinview when the drivers strech onedesktop over all the monitors... (it isnt needed if your using seperate screens)
[20:35] <James147> alacercogitatus: you might beable to enable/disable the seperate monitors in the size&orientation tab of the display settings though (although it might be called something different in 4.4.x)
[20:36] <alacercogitatus> ok, let me give that a try.
[20:45] <alacer> well, that didn't work. it doesn't detect anything other than the first monitor.
[21:30] <alvin> Can anyone confirm that the NFS kioslave on KDE 4.5.1 is more broken than ever? (doesn't work at all now)
[22:06] <Eeyore-Jr> i upgraded last week my 9.10 installation to 10.04 using the cd.  it failed
[22:06] <Eeyore-Jr> i tried to use ubuntu with a new install, preserving my /home partition and it fails to log in
[22:06] <Eeyore-Jr> booting to a live kubuntu cd, and mounting each partition, i see the /home partition on /dev/sda5
[22:07] <Eeyore-Jr> attempting to cd into that directory and save the information from it, i get an permissions error
[22:07] <Eeyore-Jr> after reviewing the directory contents, i see that it's an encrpyted partition (set in 9.10)
[22:08] <Eeyore-Jr> can i re-install kubuntu, using the same password as before for my home partition and get access to the partition again to save my data ?
[22:19] <apparle> guys please help me compile a package I have downloaded from the repositories
[22:48] <Peace-> apparle: ??
[22:48] <apparle> Peace-: nevermind.... done
[23:08] <Walzmyn> ever since I made the 4.5 upgrade, Kaffeine won't play a video - just does sound.
[23:57] <phil____> hiho
[23:58] <phil____> how do i revert back to ubuntu repos for packages from a ppa?