| === spiv_ is now known as spiv | ||
| michaelh1 | Speaking of me, | 00:35 |
|---|---|---|
| michaelh1 | is staging up at the moment? The last entry on successful-updates is from four hours ago | 00:36 |
| lifeless | michaelh1: see my question to spm just before the reference to you :P | 00:39 |
| michaelh1 | Thanks. | 00:40 |
| * spm quickly unignores lifeless, reads, adds the ognore back and crawls into a depper hole. | 00:40 | |
| michaelh1 | A different question: is there a way to edit and/or delete bug messages in LP? If not, can I edit them through the API? | 00:40 |
| lifeless | ognore eh? | 00:40 |
| spm | and adds extra typos for maximal confusions | 00:40 |
| lifeless | michaelh1: no | 00:40 |
| lifeless | michaelh1: they can be hidden I believe, in extremis | 00:41 |
| michaelh1 | No to both the UI and the API? | 00:41 |
| lifeless | and the DB | 00:41 |
| spm | edited for super awesomely special cases as well; but *really* needs to be special. | 00:41 |
| spm | wich is another way of saying I can probably count on one hand the numbers of times it's been done. | 00:42 |
| michaelh1 | spm: nope, I don't count for that. We're using messages to add meta data to a bug. The problem is when the meta data is wrong... tags are inappropriate. | 00:42 |
| wgrant | Why are tags inappropriate? | 00:43 |
| michaelh1 | wgrant: we're using tickets to also track the upstream status of a bzr revision | 00:43 |
| michaelh1 | wgrant: the revisions are fully qualified as in lp:gcc-linaro/4.5,revno=1234 and there are up to 20 entries per bug | 00:44 |
| wgrant | michaelh1: You could keep them in the description. | 00:44 |
| michaelh1 | wgrant: I'd like to have a timestamp and author that is easy to review. Descriptions not a bad idea though... | 00:45 |
| lifeless | michaelh1: why are tags inappropriate? | 00:51 |
| michaelh1 | lifeless: see the reply to wgrant above | 00:51 |
| lifeless | michaelh1: I asked this before and you linked to a wiki page which didn't help me understand your design constraints or needs at all | 00:51 |
| lifeless | so, I'm open to the idea of building a generic lookaside store, but I want the use cases pinned down very carefully | 00:52 |
| lifeless | since there are so many ways such a thing could go wrong | 00:53 |
| michaelh1 | lifeless: yip. I'll try and describe it better over the next few weeks | 00:58 |
| lifeless | michaelh1: some specifics - please look at https://dev.launchpad.net/ArchitectureGuide for my big picture concerns | 01:05 |
| lifeless | michaelh1: and for this thing - do we need: | 01:05 |
| lifeless | - search facilities (e.g. metadata values, modifiers, modification times) | 01:06 |
| lifeless | - logs/journalling | 01:06 |
| lifeless | - display UI in web pages | 01:06 |
| lifeless | - would this be better served by specific integration-information e.g. 'patches to forward upstream'. | 01:06 |
| poolie | gary_poster: you could link that lep from the relevant bug | 01:16 |
| poolie | hi lifeless | 01:16 |
| lifeless | hi poolie | 01:16 |
| gary_poster | poolie, I'm trying to link all sub-bugs to LEP, but yeah, you are right, there is that big one, I forgot, thanks | 01:17 |
| gary_poster | Currently fighting moin syntax though :-P | 01:17 |
| lifeless | spm: so, in all seriousness - what is the status of staging | 01:18 |
| spm | gah. sorry distracted. looking... | 01:18 |
| * lifeless offers spm some eye for the eyeballs | 01:19 | |
| spm | it's building an importd atm; so "soon". I'd suggest counted in smller minutes. maybe 15-30? | 01:19 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: oh you're still around | 01:20 |
| lifeless | excellent. I need help. | 01:21 |
| gary_poster | :-P | 01:21 |
| lifeless | can you do voice? just so that I can have the code full screen | 01:21 |
| gary_poster | I'm here because I didn't have time to get the stuff I needed to get done today, done | 01:21 |
| lifeless | L< | 01:21 |
| lifeless | :< | 01:21 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 01:21 |
| lifeless | Let me sketch my issue, and you can decide if mercy is appropriate | 01:21 |
| lifeless | I have a patch, lp:~lifeless/launchpad/oops | 01:21 |
| gary_poster | ok looking | 01:21 |
| lifeless | which replaces the request_statements list with a Timeline object | 01:22 |
| lifeless | its failing one test. xx-opstats.txt line 186 | 01:22 |
| gary_poster | and trunk doesn't, I assume? | 01:22 |
| lifeless | right | 01:23 |
| gary_poster | ok | 01:23 |
| lifeless | I've thrown a bunch of print statements at timeout and soft timeout setting code | 01:23 |
| lifeless | and patched SoftTimeoutView in an attempt to understand it | 01:23 |
| lifeless | but I'm getting less clue not more | 01:23 |
| lifeless | http://pastebin.com/xBnLuiPR has my 'wth' edits | 01:24 |
| lifeless | One of the things confusing me is that AFAICT the test should *never have passed* | 01:24 |
| lifeless | the page it requests does not DB access, and only DB access can set a hard timeout | 01:24 |
| gary_poster | heh, one of those | 01:24 |
| lifeless | I added DB access in, but that didn't work | 01:25 |
| lifeless | setting the soft time out to 200ms seems to work | 01:25 |
| lifeless | 20 doesn't reliably | 01:25 |
| gary_poster | have to get boys out of bath, but back in a bit | 01:25 |
| lifeless | I'd be ok with a 'does not blow up in the next devs face' tweak | 01:25 |
| lifeless | kk | 01:25 |
| lifeless | will rabbit on a bit | 01:25 |
| lifeless | Ideally I'd actually fix it | 01:26 |
| lifeless | one thing i'm sure is happening is this: | 01:26 |
| lifeless | the db code I addedfire, a timeout is raised | 01:26 |
| lifeless | but the end request hook sees the request as having no oops id | 01:27 |
| lifeless | and the oops code that puts the oops id into the request isn't running until *after* the end request hook has set a soft request oops id | 01:27 |
| gary_poster | same request? | 01:33 |
| lifeless | pretty sure | 01:34 |
| gary_poster | fly by--still putting kids to bed | 01:34 |
| lifeless | will check | 01:34 |
| lifeless | + I (<class 'storm.exceptions.TimeoutError'>, TimeoutError(), <traceback object at 0xf1a16c8>) | 01:42 |
| lifeless | + raising request= <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 (<class 'storm.exceptions.TimeoutError'>, TimeoutError(), <traceback object at 0xf194b48>) | 01:42 |
| lifeless | + G | 01:42 |
| lifeless | + UPDATE SessionData SET last_accessed = CURRENT_TIMESTAMP | 01:42 |
| lifeless | + end-hook-set-soft <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 | 01:42 |
| lifeless | + raising request= <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 (<class 'canonical.launchpad.webapp.errorlog.SoftRequestTimeout'>, SoftRequestTimeout(None,), None) | 01:42 |
| lifeless | + save fool | 01:42 |
| lifeless | + raised-soft <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 | 01:42 |
| lifeless | save fool is where the oops is set on the reuqest | 01:42 |
| lifeless | so - same request | 01:42 |
| lifeless | and raising is being called into | 01:42 |
| thumper | hmm... lunch is caling | 01:49 |
| lifeless | so _makeErrorReport is barfing | 01:49 |
| lifeless | and its silently swalloed | 01:49 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: thanks | 01:49 |
| gary_poster | lifeless, oh solved | 01:50 |
| gary_poster | awesome | 01:50 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: well not solved | 01:50 |
| lifeless | but progress | 01:50 |
| gary_poster | I had actually built a branch and was proceeding to start a test | 01:50 |
| gary_poster | great | 01:50 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: its failing to call sys.exc_info() >< | 01:51 |
| gary_poster | heh | 01:51 |
| lifeless | s/call/print the exc_info/ | 01:51 |
| lifeless | I suspect a securityProxy stabbing me | 01:51 |
| lifeless | or something | 01:51 |
| lifeless | + 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'microseconds' | 01:51 |
| lifeless | *blink* | 01:51 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: is there something that one can raise, which *will* escape the publication machinery and give a sensible diagnostic in pagetests? | 01:53 |
| gary_poster | do not understand "escape the publication machinery" | 01:54 |
| gary_poster | (IOW, the goal) | 01:55 |
| gary_poster | lifeless ^^^ (and I need to get off the computer in 4 min for mental health :-) ) | 01:56 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: I was thinking of ways to make this easier to debug in future | 01:56 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: thank you very much for helping me escape my own mental trap | 01:57 |
| gary_poster | heh, I'm not sure what I did to help, but I'm glad I did | 01:57 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: I think I'm good now. May brainstorm later about how this might have been easier to diagnose. | 01:57 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: you were patient; asked good questions, and sympathised. | 01:57 |
| lifeless | combination let me take enough of a step back to apply my own awesome skillz :> | 01:58 |
| lifeless | now to find this ztrace log thing | 01:59 |
| gary_poster | :-) cool. | 02:00 |
| gary_poster | have a good day | 02:00 |
| spm | lifeless: if you haven't noticed; staging lives1 | 02:09 |
| lifeless | spm: \i/ | 02:11 |
| lifeless | spm: erm | 02:11 |
| lifeless | spm: something is wrong | 02:11 |
| spm | oh? | 02:11 |
| lifeless | is https://staging.launchpad.net/successful-updates.txt meant to match with the revision in the footer of staging ? | 02:12 |
| spm | shuold | 02:12 |
| lifeless | spm: ... | 02:13 |
| spm | so I see | 02:13 |
| spm | is def revno 9738 in the live tree. | 02:14 |
| * lifeless is skeptical | 02:15 | |
| spm | bzr-version-info.py is 9710 tho. how... curious | 02:15 |
| spm | launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr revno | 02:15 |
| spm | 9738 | 02:15 |
| spm | ^^ bug in bzr then? :-P | 02:15 |
| lifeless | bug in the lp build thingymajig | 02:16 |
| lifeless | file a bug with the details please? lp-foundations | 02:16 |
| spm | wait a sec... something's not right. | 02:17 |
| spm | https://pastebin.canonical.com/36696/ <== build date vs date | 02:18 |
| spm | and the rev id for that matter | 02:18 |
| lifeless | I agree | 02:18 |
| lifeless | something is wrong :) | 02:19 |
| lifeless | run generate_version_info | 02:19 |
| lifeless | see what happens | 02:19 |
| spm | heh, was kinda hoping that was "Oh That's *X*" | 02:19 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: a) thanks again; its all sorted and I'm much happier. b) what happened to your mental health :) | 02:19 |
| gary_poster | lifeless: (a) yay! (b) it appears to be hosed ;-) | 02:20 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: ah, welcome to my world... we can be insane together :) | 02:20 |
| gary_poster | lol :-) | 02:20 |
| spm | um. find . -name 'generate_version*' <== nothing found. ???? | 02:20 |
| lifeless | generate_version_info | 02:21 |
| lifeless | hmm | 02:21 |
| lifeless | grepping | 02:21 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: you may like knowing that the fix to my issue also means that every sql statement *attempted* on 'LaunchpadDatabase' will be logged. | 02:22 |
| gary_poster | that sounds cool | 02:22 |
| lifeless | changing the confusion that existed around attempted-but-not-executed | 02:22 |
| gary_poster | right | 02:23 |
| lifeless | for now I'm logging them with a duration of 999999 | 02:23 |
| gary_poster | heh | 02:23 |
| gary_poster | that'll stand out, I hope | 02:23 |
| lifeless | can dig into the oops stack to see if we can do '-' or something in future | 02:23 |
| gary_poster | sure | 02:23 |
| lifeless | spm: scripts/update-bzr-version-info.sh | 02:24 |
| spm | *blink* | 02:25 |
| spm | launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ scripts/update-bzr-version-info.sh | 02:25 |
| spm | Skipping bzr-version-info.py update; already at revno 9710 | 02:25 |
| lifeless | bzr 2.2 | 02:25 |
| lifeless | bet you its a bug | 02:25 |
| lifeless | please file; launchpad-foundations + bzr tasks; losa tag, critical (it will really mess us up if that doesn't right itself) | 02:26 |
| spm | bzr --version ==> Bazaar (bzr) 2.2.0 | 02:26 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: best tales docs I've found http://www.owlfish.com/software/simpleTAL/tal-guide.html | 02:26 |
| thumper | lifeless: that's that all about? | 02:27 |
| lifeless | spiv: can you please assist ^ > | 02:27 |
| lifeless | ? | 02:27 |
| lifeless | thumper: the thing that updates the revision in the bottom right of staging and edge isn't (updating) | 02:27 |
| thumper | ah | 02:27 |
| thumper | ok | 02:27 |
| lifeless | which suggests, very strongly, a bzr bug | 02:28 |
| poolie | this twitter oauth thing strongly reminds me of the "we must have unique per app tokens" launchpad used to have | 02:30 |
| poolie | i think we've now seen the light, fortunately | 02:31 |
| wgrant | For anonymous access, sure. | 02:31 |
| poolie | yes | 02:32 |
| poolie | this was proposed for a long time as a reason we couldn't allow anonymous access | 02:32 |
| wgrant | Indeed. | 02:33 |
| wgrant | But Twitter's situation is different, as it's authenticated. | 02:33 |
| spm | lifeless: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/629212 | 02:36 |
| _mup_ | Bug #629212: staging update is showing incorrect version in the html/page footer <canonical-losa-lp> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629212> | 02:36 |
| lifeless | we can have multiple apps per token, its just a config + trust thing | 02:36 |
| lifeless | spiv: if you could look at bug 629212 that would be awesome | 02:37 |
| _mup_ | Bug #629212: staging update is showing incorrect version in the html/page footer <canonical-losa-lp> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629212> | 02:37 |
| lifeless | spiv: I realise its an interupt; but we're hitting release-week on Monday, and thats already pretty harsh for lp :( | 02:37 |
| poolie | lifeless: he's out atm (or he was) | 02:40 |
| lifeless | poolie: oh sure, it can wait for later today | 02:43 |
| lifeless | poolie: I just wanted to be clear about it all | 02:43 |
| lifeless | ok, thats pretty impressive, I admit it: 2455 OOPS-1706L64 ProductSeries:+bugs | 02:46 |
| lifeless | the first number is sql queries | 02:46 |
| wgrant | You should have seen Soyuz a year or so ago. | 02:51 |
| wgrant | It was better than that :) | 02:51 |
| lifeless | wgrant: without timing out ? | 02:52 |
| wgrant | lifeless: ... just. | 02:53 |
| lifeless | foods time | 02:54 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: well, that's why we have such beefy db servers :-) | 03:19 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: >< | 03:24 |
| lifeless | wtf | 03:29 |
| lifeless | we still query AccountPassword? | 03:29 |
| wgrant | Yup. | 03:30 |
| wgrant | It's still needed for basic auth. | 03:30 |
| wgrant | But I don't know why it's queried every time. | 03:30 |
| lifeless | we don't support basic auth anymore do we? I mean, I know its *enabled*, but *support* is different | 03:31 |
| wgrant | Right. | 03:31 |
| wgrant | It's enabled and dangerous. | 03:31 |
| wgrant | So should be deleted. | 03:31 |
| lifeless | propose a patch | 03:31 |
| lifeless | DoIt | 03:31 |
| lifeless | make it controlled by a feature flag | 03:31 |
| lifeless | if after the rollout folk are screaming | 03:31 |
| lifeless | we can add a rule to enable it | 03:32 |
| wgrant | Ooh, good idea. | 03:32 |
| lifeless | and transition the remaining user(s) | 03:32 |
| lifeless | if noone screams by 10.10, we nuke the code completely. | 03:32 |
| wgrant | (and the table) | 03:35 |
| lifeless | spm: ping | 03:35 |
| spm | yo | 03:35 |
| lifeless | spm: on staging | 03:35 |
| lifeless | I have some evidence suggesting it *is running 9710* | 03:35 |
| lifeless | spm: I'd like to dig deeper | 03:35 |
| lifeless | here is my evident | 03:35 |
| lifeless | my patch 11483 in stable preloads is_valid_person for https://staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+assignments | 03:36 |
| stub | We still have AccountPassword to support the test OpenId provider the testsuite uses. Dropping it is part of the roadmap I drafted yesterday. | 03:36 |
| lifeless | but | 03:36 |
| lifeless | stub: awesome | 03:36 |
| lifeless | spm: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1707S19 | 03:36 |
| lifeless | shows 191 SELECT ValidPersonCache.id FROM ValidPersonCache WHERE ValidPersonCache.id = %s LIMIT 1 calls | 03:37 |
| lifeless | spm: on edge, when I checked yesterday, the page didn't have that | 03:37 |
| wgrant | stub: I guess it really just needs a place to enter an email address? | 03:37 |
| wgrant | And maybe a button to fail auth, to make testing easier. | 03:37 |
| stub | wgrant: Yes, and a box to override the OpenId Identity to test some edge cases. | 03:38 |
| wgrant | Since that's difficult at the moment. | 03:38 |
| lifeless | spm: db-stable 9738 is past 11483 | 03:38 |
| wgrant | Ah, true. | 03:38 |
| lifeless | spm: so, in theory, it should not be issuing those queryies | 03:38 |
| lifeless | spm: so I think that staging right now is still useless | 03:38 |
| spm | mmmmmmmmmmm | 03:39 |
| spm | frown evem | 03:39 |
| lifeless | spm: "grep 'def _specification_sort' lib/lp/blueprints/model/specification.py" | 03:39 |
| lifeless | spm: if that finds a function, lets cross check that whats showing on the web *is running from where you think its running* | 03:40 |
| lifeless | spm: if it doesn't, then what we're seeing on the web is consistent with the source code you're looking at, and we can look at bzr etc | 03:40 |
| spm | was going to ask do you have a way to confirm existance... ta | 03:42 |
| spm | lifeless: most curious. zero results found. ?? | 03:42 |
| lifeless | then we're not running 9738 | 03:42 |
| lifeless | ok | 03:42 |
| spm | orsum | 03:42 |
| spm | bzr missing; perhaps? | 03:42 |
| lifeless | bzr revision-info --tree | 03:42 |
| lifeless | bzr revision-info | 03:42 |
| lifeless | run both please | 03:42 |
| spm | oki | 03:42 |
| lifeless | bug 629212 | 03:43 |
| _mup_ | Bug #629212: staging update is showing incorrect version in the html/page footer <canonical-losa-lp> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629212> | 03:43 |
| spm | wow | 03:43 |
| spm | launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr revision-info --tree | 03:43 |
| spm | 9710 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100827184922-1f7jszjyrqw4dasv | 03:43 |
| spm | launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr revision-info | 03:43 |
| spm | 9738 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100902161314-dy8vhr3l8epgpo2s | 03:43 |
| lifeless | spm: ok, the tree is out of date | 03:43 |
| lifeless | I'll update 629212 with that | 03:43 |
| lifeless | spm: please run 'bzr update' | 03:43 |
| lifeless | and make run, or however you kick things off | 03:43 |
| spm | i wonder if this'll break staging rather spectacularly - the DB would have been set via 9710.... | 03:44 |
| lifeless | spm: almost certainly | 03:44 |
| spm | as we just rsync the code around. whee. | 03:44 |
| lifeless | well | 03:44 |
| lifeless | where does this code start? | 03:44 |
| lifeless | whats the source of the rsync | 03:44 |
| lifeless | and if you say sodium, el crasho, I'm going to cry. | 03:44 |
| * spm hates to see a grown man cry and says nothing | 03:45 | |
| lifeless | ok, so you probably just need to run 'bzr update' on sodium | 03:45 |
| spm | launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr update | 03:45 |
| spm | bzr: ERROR: This tree contains left-over files from a failed operation. | 03:45 |
| spm | Please examine /srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad/.bzr/checkout/limbo to see if it contains any files you wish to | 03:45 |
| spm | keep, and delete it when you are done. | 03:45 |
| lifeless | and kick the whole thing off again | 03:45 |
| * spm puts head in hands and tears up a little | 03:45 | |
| lifeless | sodium will be like that too | 03:46 |
| lifeless | lets fix at root | 03:46 |
| spm | yeah, that's where I'm heading | 03:46 |
| spm | damn. sodium is really futzed with that tree. | 03:48 |
| lifeless | bug updated | 03:48 |
| lifeless | whats the sodium rt ? I cannae see it | 03:48 |
| spm | the h/w fail one? not sure if it even has one tbh | 03:49 |
| lifeless | it had one | 03:50 |
| lifeless | it may have been closed after the chassis was replaced. | 03:50 |
| spm | have moved the existing db-stable to *.busticated; doing a brand new branch et al to be sure to be sure | 03:51 |
| lifeless | thanks | 03:52 |
| lifeless | sorry for the interrupt | 03:52 |
| lifeless | spm: I've updated the bug and the bodyswap RT ticket | 03:58 |
| lifeless | stub: sodium has less CPU and RAM than it did, its why the PPR may be running into swap when it wasn't before. | 03:59 |
| spm | oh no, is fine; and yeah that sounds about right. | 03:59 |
| lifeless | hah | 04:01 |
| lifeless | rt fail | 04:01 |
| lifeless | it mades a new ticket | 04:01 |
| lifeless | 41200 >< | 04:01 |
| lifeless | spiv: unping | 04:01 |
| stub | lifeless: ahh | 04:09 |
| lifeless | stub: I only found out reading closed rt tickets looking for the sodium thing | 04:10 |
| lifeless | spm: it would be nice to share those things btw, just saying | 04:10 |
| lifeless | (and I know it wasn't up to you :>) | 04:11 |
| lifeless | http://ayende.com/Blog/archive/2010/08/31/it-really-happened-legacy-programmers-tales.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+AyendeRahien+(Ayende+%40+Rahien) | 04:13 |
| stub | Is sourcepackage one word or two in the Launchpad vocabulary? I can never remember. I think I even asked this yesterday... | 04:17 |
| lifeless | one I think | 04:17 |
| stub | BinaryPackageBuild thinks it is two, pretty much everything else thinks its one. But BPB is new and perhaps the new way forward? | 04:19 |
| wgrant | stub: Two. | 04:20 |
| wgrant | What says it's one? | 04:20 |
| lifeless | spm: Segmentation fault in cron still waorries me | 04:20 |
| stub | wgrant: hyphenation of database column names... haven't looked for capitalisation in Python source code. | 04:24 |
| stub | but hyphenation can be wonky from when we didn't underscore between words. | 04:25 |
| wgrant | stub: Pretty much everything except BPB predates the hyphenation. | 04:25 |
| wgrant | Exactly. | 04:25 |
| stub | Ta. | 04:25 |
| wgrant | It's been capitalised SourcePackage since like 2005. | 04:25 |
| spm` | pqm@devpad:/code/rocketfuel-built/db-stable$ bzr revision-info --tree | 04:30 |
| spm` | 9739 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100902175034-3o81ksb8qmulx82x | 04:30 |
| spm` | pqm@devpad:/code/rocketfuel-built/db-stable$ bzr revision-info | 04:30 |
| spm` | 9739 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100902175034-3o81ksb8qmulx82x | 04:30 |
| spm` | lifeless: ^^ | 04:30 |
| lifeless | spm`: \o/ | 04:30 |
| lifeless | spm`: time for the acid test | 04:31 |
| spm` | :-) | 04:31 |
| thumper | :( | 05:05 |
| thumper | 'lp.services.job.tests.test_runner.TestTwistedJobRunner.test_timeout' spurious test failure | 05:05 |
| spm` | lifeless: right. timing worked against us a bit there; have stabbed the (still doing it wrong) restore; manually ensureed we have the latest pony; and the next restore in .... 4 minutes, should push out 9739 | 05:10 |
| lifeless | spm`: if my fingers cross any harder they will break | 05:10 |
| spm` | :-) | 05:10 |
| lifeless | stub: did you remember where our new storm base base class is ? | 05:10 |
| stub | lifeless: I don't think anyone has created it yet. | 05:11 |
| lifeless | stub: is it ok to use storm.base.Storm ? | 05:12 |
| lifeless | stub: on completely new things? | 05:12 |
| lifeless | (TimeLimitedToken for the librarian ) | 05:13 |
| stub | I use storm.locals.Storm, but yet. Better to create a three line subclass in the LP tree though and use it. I don't think anyone knows where it should live though. | 05:13 |
| stub | c/yet/yes/ | 05:13 |
| lifeless | stub: I want to get this branch in shape for Abel | 05:13 |
| lifeless | if we're already using Storm directly, anywhere, we'll need to do a mass migration, so its no harder. | 05:14 |
| stub | We already use Storm directly elsewhere. | 05:14 |
| lifeless | thanks | 05:14 |
| === almaisan` is now known as al-maisan | ||
| lifeless | time to rebuild my session db | 05:18 |
| lifeless | stub: will you want a sql patch for the tokens | 05:18 |
| lifeless | stub: or just grab the table defn I put in session.sql | 05:18 |
| lifeless | spm`: staging mail came through, but staging is down. | 05:24 |
| lifeless | spm`: is that normal, monsieur backtick ? | 05:24 |
| spm` | yeah. I manually rekicked it. | 05:24 |
| lifeless | spm`: just a minute ago ? | 05:24 |
| spm` | about 10ish | 05:24 |
| spm` | 15 I kicked; it should have restarted abot 10 ago | 05:24 |
| spm` | and isn't. sigh. | 05:25 |
| lifeless | spm`: I saw mail 6 minutes or so ago | 05:25 |
| spm` | yeah. something funkies up | 05:26 |
| stub | lifeless: I need to manually apply things, so no need for a database patch. Needs a note on 'unusual deployment' on the rollout page, because things will explode if I forget. | 05:26 |
| stub | lifeless: Staging will explode too if it lands without work, so I guess I should make the changes to prod and staging just before you land. | 05:27 |
| spm` | wowo. something really blew up. | 05:31 |
| spm` | Fri Sep 3 04:22:22 UTC 2010 Applying database updates and permissions to DB | 05:31 |
| spm` | Traceback (most recent call last): | 05:31 |
| spm` | File "./upgrade.py", line 13, in <module> | 05:31 |
| spm` | import _pythonpath # Sort PYTHONPATH | 05:31 |
| spm` | ImportError: No module named _pythonpath | 05:31 |
| spm` | stub: ^^ staging restore just now | 05:31 |
| lifeless | buildout | 05:31 |
| stub | Yay, it isn't me! | 05:32 |
| spm` | although this looks bad too: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad/download-cache/dist/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.6.egg'> | 05:32 |
| spm` | ha | 05:32 |
| lifeless | whats the staging librarian url ? | 05:32 |
| lifeless | ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/robertc/launchpad/lp-branches/working/lib/canonical/shipit/browser/configure.zcml", line 7.4-12.49 | 05:34 |
| lifeless | ImportError: No module named cachedproperty | 05:34 |
| lifeless | *hate hate hate stab stab stab* | 05:34 |
| spm` | lifeless: librarian.staging.launchpad.net ? or did you mean something else... | 05:37 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Split split split. | 05:37 |
| wgrant | spm`: Er, really? | 05:37 |
| wgrant | I really hope not. | 05:38 |
| lifeless | spm`: the staging equivalent to launchpadlibrarian.net | 05:38 |
| spm` | oh that one. right. staging.launchpadlibrarian.net | 05:39 |
| wgrant | (phew) | 05:39 |
| spm` | you may begin to see a pattern here... :-) | 05:39 |
| lifeless | thumper: can you please put rt 41202 to pri 89 | 05:40 |
| thumper | lifeless: possibly, trying to login | 05:41 |
| lifeless | where do shipit bugs get filed? | 05:41 |
| lifeless | like 'we can't rollout until this is fixed' style shipit bugs | 05:42 |
| wgrant | shipit | 05:42 |
| wgrant | But they're normally fixed by LP... | 05:42 |
| lifeless | yeah | 05:42 |
| lifeless | I have a sketchy patch | 05:42 |
| thumper | lifeless: done | 05:42 |
| wgrant | But it can't be broken, can it? | 05:42 |
| wgrant | ec2 tests it. | 05:42 |
| wgrant | So does buildbot. | 05:42 |
| lifeless | wgrant: guess what | 05:43 |
| lifeless | wgrant: go on guess | 05:43 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I dares you | 05:43 |
| wgrant | My guess would be python version differences, but that doesn't seem relevant here. | 05:45 |
| wgrant | Or buildbot wasn't update-sourcecoding. | 05:45 |
| wgrant | Or prasé isn't. | 05:45 |
| * spm` notes the 'prasé' and smiles :-) | 05:45 | |
| lifeless | wgrant: zcml barfs in includes that don't affect the core test suite don't break it. | 05:46 |
| lifeless | wgrant: or something ~= to that | 05:46 |
| wgrant | lifeless: O_o | 05:46 |
| lifeless | wgrant: anyhow, I dunno. | 05:46 |
| lifeless | maybe allenap cheated and didn't ec2land, in which case its going to go boom and we'll be in testfix in, oh, 2.5 hours | 05:47 |
| thumper | ec2 giving WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! | 05:47 |
| thumper | anyone else seeing this? | 05:47 |
| thumper | is there a reason? | 05:47 |
| lifeless | wgrant: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/shipit/+bug/629259 for your pain | 05:48 |
| _mup_ | Bug #629259: cachedproperty was imported by shipit <canonical-losa-lp> <ShipIt:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629259> | 05:48 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: have you run utilities/update-sourcecode? | 05:49 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: I'm checking that now, but pqm barfed at me with the same error earlier | 05:49 |
| mwhudson | ah | 05:49 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: on a production config change | 05:49 |
| mwhudson | oh there's probably some config-manager branch that needs to change | 05:50 |
| mwhudson | maybe | 05:50 |
| lifeless | yes | 05:50 |
| lifeless | I suspect so now having checked | 05:50 |
| lifeless | sourcecode has been udpated | 05:50 |
| wgrant | thumper: That just means you're lucky. | 05:50 |
| wgrant | thumper: You've got an instance reusing an old IP. | 05:51 |
| mwhudson | the config-manager config is in the lp-production-configs branch iirc... | 05:51 |
| thumper | :( | 05:51 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: yes, had a lovely race condition there last night | 05:51 |
| thumper | wgrant: three times in a row | 05:51 |
| thumper | must be extra lucky* | 05:51 |
| lifeless | actually its a bug | 05:51 |
| lifeless | if you're using ec2 land/test | 05:51 |
| mwhudson | thumper: rm ~/.ec2/known_hosts | 05:51 |
| lifeless | that is meant to zap stuff and set it up for you | 05:52 |
| wgrant | Ah, right. | 05:52 |
| thumper | lifeless: using ec2 test | 05:52 |
| mwhudson | ec2 test should probably use the ssh -RogerMeHarder options to not get it to check keys at all | 05:53 |
| mwhudson | if it has them even | 05:53 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: every now and then your uk heritage shines through ;) | 05:54 |
| thumper | so I can fix this by removing the known_hosts | 05:54 |
| thumper | ? | 05:54 |
| mwhudson | thumper: yes | 05:55 |
| mwhudson | until next time | 05:55 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: >:) | 05:55 |
| * thumper sighs | 05:55 | |
| lifeless | spm`: when is the next edge update ? | 06:01 |
| lifeless | spm`: can we abort it ? tip of stable is not safe to rollout. | 06:01 |
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| lifeless | I really dislike this Robert Collins(bugnumnber)... | 06:07 |
| lifeless | in emails | 06:07 |
| wgrant | As in the fake bug email address? | 06:08 |
| lifeless | yes | 06:08 |
| wgrant | Yes :( | 06:09 |
| lifeless | ok -> airport. bbiab | 06:12 |
| spm` | lifeless: about one hour, and yes. | 07:02 |
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| * StevenK tries to work out what Zope is telling him | 07:37 | |
| wgrant | StevenK: What's it complaining about? | 07:37 |
| StevenK | wgrant: ComponentLookupError | 07:40 |
| * StevenK grumbles at zcml | 07:42 | |
| lifeless | spm`: can we stop it ? | 07:59 |
| spm` | lifeless: it is: https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/OSA/LaunchpadProductionStatus#Edge%20Updates | 07:59 |
| lifeless | spm`: thanks | 07:59 |
| spm` | np. | 07:59 |
| spm` | I should relaly restart bip to get rid of that '`' | 07:59 |
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| lifeless | I'll put the rollback into pqm in a few minutes | 08:00 |
| spm | coolio | 08:00 |
| lifeless | spm: hows staging? | 08:01 |
| spm | still unwell I assume, haven't chased tbh. | 08:03 |
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| spm | lifeless: revno 9741 should be being rolled out in about 5 mins. (fingers crossed etc etc) | 08:38 |
| spm | on staging, as in. | 08:39 |
| lifeless | spm: great, thanks | 08:46 |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:46 |
| lifeless | spm: bugger | 08:56 |
| lifeless | spm: can you stamp on pqm for me | 08:56 |
| spm | wich part? | 08:56 |
| lifeless | the job I just mistargeted to prod-devel | 08:56 |
| spm | oops | 08:56 |
| spm | lifeless: lucky you | 08:58 |
| StevenK | Is there some way I can cleanup my lp-sourcedeps/eggs directory? | 08:58 |
| spm | Commit message [[rs=deryck][ui=none] Rollback rev 11491.] does not match commit_re | 08:58 |
| lifeless | spm: thanks | 08:59 |
| lifeless | hopefully this one will get through | 09:02 |
| lifeless | adeuring: I have a rollback landing | 09:02 |
| adeuring | lifeless: I've seen your mails (but haven't had yet enough coffee) | 09:03 |
| lifeless | adeuring: thats cool | 09:04 |
| lifeless | adeuring: I"m starting to update bugs and stuff now that I'm back home from the airport | 09:04 |
| lifeless | adeuring: simply letting you know so that we don't roll it back twice :P | 09:04 |
| adeuring | lifeless: ok. so, how shall we proceed regarding the need to get the retracers working again? | 09:04 |
| lifeless | the firewall port has been opened | 09:05 |
| lifeless | adeuring: if lp is serving the restricted librarian urls out now, it should be working | 09:05 |
| adeuring | lifeless: right | 09:05 |
| lifeless | adeuring: have your coffee; catch up on mails | 09:05 |
| adeuring | ;) | 09:06 |
| lifeless | that will give me time to update bugs to make the plan as clear as I can | 09:06 |
| spm | <adeuring> lifeless: I've seen your mails (but haven't had yet enough coffee) <== Man after my own heart. I too find dealing with lifeless and his emails to be much smoother post coffee. ;-) | 09:12 |
| allenap | lifeless: Have I broken something? | 09:21 |
| lifeless | allenap: I'm not sure | 09:22 |
| allenap | :) | 09:22 |
| lifeless | allenap: have you landed the shipit change? | 09:22 |
| allenap | lifeless: Yeah, that landed over a week ago I think. | 09:22 |
| lifeless | allenap: for cachedproperty use? | 09:23 |
| stub | Gah. I'm always bitching about other people adding stdout noise to the test suite, and I just notice some from one of my recent landings :-P | 09:23 |
| allenap | lifeless: Yep. | 09:23 |
| lifeless | allenap: ah, but your lp branch only landed last night? | 09:23 |
| allenap | lifeless: Yeah, but versions.cfg only got bumped in my branch too. | 09:23 |
| lifeless | allenap: so landing a production config change barfed this morning on shipit zcml | 09:24 |
| allenap | lifeless: Sorry, utilities/sourcedeps.conf | 09:24 |
| lifeless | allenap: because that doesn't use versions.cfg, we have to land branches that cause incompatibilities in lockstep, not way apart. | 09:25 |
| lifeless | allenap: it may be fixed now, I'll toss a test change at it. | 09:25 |
| allenap | lifeless: Was shipit tip pulled into production? | 09:26 |
| lifeless | allenap: yes, thats how the older stuff works | 09:27 |
| allenap | lifeless: Gah, I didn't realise that could happen. | 09:27 |
| lifeless | allenap: not live production, but the mechanism by which production config changes are made | 09:27 |
| lifeless | allenap: its a hangover, it should be changed. | 09:28 |
| allenap | lifeless: Okay. I'm sorry about that. I meant to land the two branches close to one another, then realised there were problems with the Launchpad part, and thought it would be okay - because of sourcedeps.conf - to leave shipit as is. | 09:28 |
| lifeless | allenap: no worries, now I know what went on it makes sense. I'm checking now that there isn't a persisting problem | 09:29 |
| wgrant | Why doesn't production use sourcedeps.conf? | 09:29 |
| allenap | lifeless: Cool, thanks for sorting this out while I slept unaware :) | 09:29 |
| lifeless | wgrant: pqm landing production-configs uses config-manager | 09:29 |
| lifeless | allenap: I think your branch landing has sorted it | 09:29 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Yes, but why? | 09:29 |
| lifeless | wgrant: 20:30 < lifeless> allenap: its a hangover, it should be changed. | 09:30 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Your clock is wrong. | 09:31 |
| wgrant | But, ah. | 09:31 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Pedant. | 09:32 |
| lifeless | oh foo, I can't land stuff till codehosting is back. | 09:32 |
| * lifeless files a bug for redundandcy | 09:32 | |
| StevenK | A redundant bug? | 09:33 |
| jkakar | I think the diff on the merge proposal page would be more readable if it used a fixed-width font. | 09:42 |
| wgrant | jkakar: It does. | 09:43 |
| wgrant | jkakar: Are you using edge, and also don't have the UbuntuBeta font installed? | 09:44 |
| jkakar | wgrant: I'm using edge and I have the UbuntuBeta font installed. | 09:45 |
| wgrant | Hmm. | 09:46 |
| jkakar | The diff is shown using the UbuntuBeta font. | 09:47 |
| wgrant | Not for me :( | 09:47 |
| wgrant | Maybe my UbuntuBeta is old. | 09:48 |
| wgrant | Hm, no. | 09:48 |
| lifeless | thumper filed a bug for this on launchpad-web today, I think. | 09:50 |
| lifeless | or someone did. | 09:50 |
| allenap | +1 for diffs in cursive. | 09:50 |
| StevenK | Argh, no | 09:50 |
| StevenK | allenap: Evil! | 09:50 |
| wgrant | lifeless: There is a bug for it, yes. | 09:50 |
| wgrant | Bug 629181 | 09:50 |
| _mup_ | Bug #629181: code review diffs are in a proportional font on edge <launchpad-web:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629181> | 09:50 |
| wgrant | Hence the question about whether the font was installed. | 09:51 |
| jkakar | allenap: p:first-letter { font-size: 200% } | 09:51 |
| lifeless | wgrant: ah, it was you ;p | 09:51 |
| jkakar | Might as well make the diff look like an old manuscript. :) | 09:51 |
| allenap | jkakar: Oh, oh, that's so brilliant. | 09:51 |
| wgrant | lifeless: It wasn't me. | 09:51 |
| wgrant | I just saw it fly past. | 09:51 |
| lifeless | oh, someone. | 09:52 |
| StevenK | lifeless: mwhudson | 09:52 |
| lifeless | ah yes thanks | 09:53 |
| lifeless | adeuring: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/395960 | 10:02 |
| _mup_ | Bug #395960: proxying user supplied files via the launchpad appserver domain has security and performance issues <librarian> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/395960> | 10:02 |
| lifeless | adeuring: thats the bug we'll be fixing | 10:03 |
| adeuring | right | 10:04 |
| lifeless | adeuring: codehosting is back if you want to pull the private-librarian branch | 10:09 |
| * adeuring is looking | 10:09 | |
| lifeless | adeuring: there are instructions on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/private-librarian/+merge/31020 about getting going with it | 10:10 |
| lifeless | adeuring: hey, so I've updated the bug and the mp and chased a few things around | 10:31 |
| adeuring | lifeless: ok | 10:31 |
| lifeless | adeuring: so I'm going to work on this monday, tuesday etc | 10:32 |
| adeuring | cool | 10:32 |
| lifeless | adeuring: if you'd like to collaborate that would be awesome | 10:32 |
| lifeless | adeuring: I understand deryck is giving you a slab of time to do this, if you're interested. | 10:32 |
| adeuring | lifeless: sure, I am | 10:32 |
| lifeless | awesome | 10:32 |
| lifeless | so, its heading towards late for me; I'd love to give you a brain scan to get my internal state on it | 10:33 |
| lifeless | but failing that, perhaps you can poke around and ask / discuss to get some info before I crash? | 10:33 |
| adeuring | lifeless: thanks :) Are the scanners yet internet ready? | 10:33 |
| lifeless | adeuring: the scanners? | 10:34 |
| lifeless | oh | 10:34 |
| adeuring | lifeless: for brain scans | 10:34 |
| lifeless | for the scan. No. Thats why I can't | 10:34 |
| lifeless | I have them in the doorways at the house; instant backup | 10:34 |
| adeuring | lifeless: cool. Anyway, I'm reading the MP, but I'm not that fast ;) | 10:34 |
| michaelh1 | Hey, is the API up at the moment? I'm getting strange errors using launchpadlib... | 10:45 |
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| lifeless | hmm, its not perf tuesday anymore ;P | 10:55 |
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| lifeless | bah | 10:55 |
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| seb128 | hi | 10:58 |
| seb128 | is there any known bug with untagging bugs with the launchpablib api recently? | 10:58 |
| seb128 | the retracers are running but seems untagging is not working | 10:58 |
| seb128 | though the recent retracer crashed on a | 10:59 |
| seb128 | lazr.restfulclient.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error | 10:59 |
| seb128 | ... | 10:59 |
| seb128 | Sorry, you can't upload or download files from Launchpad at the moment, | 10:59 |
| seb128 | because we're doing feng shui in the server room. Normal service will | 10:59 |
| seb128 | resume within an hour. | 10:59 |
| lifeless | hmm, thats a librarian related error | 10:59 |
| seb128 | I guess that's different from the untagging | 10:59 |
| seb128 | it failed to add the stracktrace | 10:59 |
| lifeless | mthaddon: sorry for the interrupt; have both librarians been behaving ? | 11:00 |
| lifeless | seb128: yeah, thats the upload process | 11:00 |
| mthaddon | not aware of any librarian problems | 11:00 |
| seb128 | ok, I've restarted the retracer | 11:01 |
| seb128 | let's see if that was a one time issue | 11:01 |
| lifeless | adeuring: well I hope it made sense ;) | 11:21 |
| adeuring | lifeless: the discussion in the mp? sure | 11:21 |
| lifeless | adeuring: gnight | 11:36 |
| lifeless | adeuring: I'll probably poke at this in the weekend; please do push up any stuff you do on top of it and mention in the MP or something | 11:37 |
| adeuring | lifeless: ok, will do. nice weekend! | 11:39 |
| noodles775 | Night lifeless | 11:42 |
| jtv | Argh. This familiar to anyone? It doesn't seem related to anything I did in my branch. | 11:49 |
| jtv | ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/ftesting.zcml", line 17.4-17.35 | 11:49 |
| jtv | ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/lib/canonical/configure.zcml", line 147.4-148.42 | 11:49 |
| jtv | ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/lib/canonical/shipit/configure.zcml", line 7.4-8.28 | 11:49 |
| jtv | ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/lib/canonical/shipit/browser/configure.zcml", line 7.4-12.49 | 11:49 |
| jtv | ImportError: cannot import name cachedproperty | 11:49 |
| deryck | Morning, all. | 11:57 |
| noodles775 | jtv: bug 629259 ? | 11:57 |
| _mup_ | Bug #629259: cachedproperty was imported by shipit <canonical-losa-lp> <ShipIt:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629259> | 11:57 |
| jtv | noodles775: ah thanks! | 11:57 |
| jtv | hi deryck | 11:57 |
| seb128 | re | 11:57 |
| seb128 | retracer crahed again the same way | 11:58 |
| seb128 | lazr.restfulclient.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error | 11:58 |
| deryck | hi seb128. | 11:58 |
| seb128 | Sorry, you can't upload or download files from Launchpad at the moment, | 11:58 |
| seb128 | because we're doing feng shui in the server room. Normal service will | 11:58 |
| seb128 | resume within an hour. | 11:58 |
| seb128 | hey deryck | 11:58 |
| seb128 | deryck, seems we progress, the retracers have access to the crashes now | 11:58 |
| jtv | noodles775: I wonder why suddenly this started affecting me around the time I renamed my branch directory… | 11:59 |
| seb128 | they just get an error when trying to upload the retraced stacktrace | 11:59 |
| deryck | seb128, ok, let me check on that. | 11:59 |
| jtv | noodles775: ah, a devel merge was also needed. | 12:04 |
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| mars | beuno, something interesting for you and the design group: http://uxmovement.com/design-articles/faster-with-top-aligned-labels | 17:11 |
| beuno | mars, based on research, that's how I defined this: https://wiki.canonical.com/UserExperienceDesign/WebGuidelines/Forms | 17:13 |
| beuno | not that I'm allowed to do design anymore (?) | 17:14 |
| mars | beuno, that's awesome | 17:14 |
| mars | the page I mean :) | 17:14 |
| beuno | heh | 17:15 |
| beuno | (apologies for all you lurkers not being able to see that page) | 17:15 |
| beuno | mars, there's a bunch of stuff there: https://wiki.canonical.com/UserExperienceDesign/WebGuidelines/ | 17:15 |
| beuno | I don't think anyone has picked up that work | 17:15 |
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| lifeless | gary_poster: timeline has landed | 21:44 |
| gary_poster | great, lifeless | 21:44 |
| gary_poster | that will be nice to see | 21:44 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: do you know of anything other than (sql, email, memcache) in production that can block atm ? | 21:44 |
| gary_poster | do the oops tools need a parallel update? | 21:44 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: it would be nice to teach them to do more with the info and look at a format change; for now I worked in the current constraints as expressed in the LP code | 21:45 |
| lifeless | so the database column is now category | 21:45 |
| gary_poster | fair enough | 21:45 |
| lifeless | 'launchpad-master' will be SQL-launchpad-master | 21:45 |
| lifeless | so the existing group-and-report-longest should still work | 21:45 |
| gary_poster | blocks:I'm told that librarian blocks already, and I do seem to recall this. | 21:46 |
| lifeless | ah yes, I knew that one but forgot. Thanks! | 21:46 |
| lifeless | I'm looking at doing a tiny patch to add categories and reporting for all of these, | 21:46 |
| lifeless | . | 21:46 |
| lifeless | and propose it for RC so we get better reporting during the next cycle | 21:47 |
| gary_poster | before I forget, lifeless: in regards to your "simplify OOPS emails" email from a while ago, that fits in line with things matsubara and Ursinha had discussed. In a couple of weeks I'm planning to start focusing them + mars on that. We'll be in touch soon with our thoughts so we can all be aligned. | 21:47 |
| lifeless | gary_poster: great, thanks for letting me know. | 21:48 |
| gary_poster | of course | 21:48 |
| lifeless | http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1854041 | 21:59 |
| lifeless | slightly tweaked version of his blog post | 21:59 |
| mars | heya lifeless, have a sec for a testrepository question? | 22:19 |
| lifeless | shoot | 22:19 |
| mars | ok | 22:19 |
| mars | I was looking at using testrepository with the Zope testrunner | 22:19 |
| mars | and thinking about how zope can take test IDs in the form 'bin/test id1 id2 id3' | 22:20 |
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| thumper | lifeless, any quake damage where you are? | 22:20 |
| lifeless | thumper: rangiora; haven't gone around the town looking but not expecting to find much : old riverbed, not reclaimed land | 22:20 |
| lifeless | chc turned to jelly after the first shockwave passed through | 22:21 |
| thumper | I've seen some pictures | 22:21 |
| lifeless | thumper: my place seems fine so far, haven't gone into the weather to audit the outside yet. | 22:21 |
| thumper | personally I slept through it | 22:21 |
| lifeless | the press has some pretty stunning ones | 22:21 |
| thumper | cool | 22:21 |
| mars | lifeless, so testrepository has an IDFILE and test_id_option... ok, just thought of something | 22:22 |
| lifeless | mars: the zope test runner should support --load-list | 22:23 |
| lifeless | mars: jml patched it up | 22:23 |
| lifeless | mars: naively, I'd expect the .testr.conf for launchpad to work with it unmodified | 22:23 |
| mars | lifeless, hasn't landed in upstream. I have the latest | 22:23 |
| lifeless | ah | 22:23 |
| lifeless | maybe zope.testing is ahead of zope itself? | 22:24 |
| mars | zope.testing + zope.testrunner | 22:25 |
| mars | (now) | 22:25 |
| mars | actually | 22:25 |
| mars | zope.testing + zope.testrunner + zc.recipe.testrunner | 22:25 |
| lifeless | ok | 22:26 |
| lifeless | anyhow, --load-list is terribly simple. | 22:26 |
| lifeless | best thing to do would be to get that upstream | 22:26 |
| lifeless | it is 'load all the tests. Perform a set intersection.' | 22:26 |
| mars | lifeless, this should work: deoesn't though: | 22:26 |
| mars | [DEFAULT] | 22:26 |
| mars | test_command=./bin/test --subunit $IDOPTION | 22:27 |
| mars | test_id_option= $IDLIST | 22:27 |
| lifeless | what dos it do ? | 22:27 |
| mars | prints the string 'IDLIST' | 22:27 |
| mars | $ testr run --failing | 22:27 |
| lifeless | there are a couple of testr bugs in this area | 22:27 |
| mars | 'IDLIST' | 22:27 |
| lifeless | up | 22:27 |
| lifeless | uhm | 22:27 |
| lifeless | try test_command=./bin/test --subunit $IDLIST | 22:27 |
| mars | ok, that sort of works, but it looks like it only accepts one module or test | 22:29 |
| mars | bin/test that is | 22:29 |
| mars | ok, so upstream is still the best option | 22:29 |
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