=== spiv_ is now known as spiv [00:22] are bugs not being able to pull status form upstream trackers a known issue? [00:23] micahg: Which tracker? [00:23] I know of an issue with debbugs. [00:23] wgrant: I just saw it for mozilla on bug 569528,but have seen it for gnome and debian [00:23] Launchpad bug 569528 in chiark-tcl (Ubuntu) "Sync chiark-tcl 1.1.0+nmu2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affected: 1, heat: 28)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569528 [00:24] oops [00:24] bug 588595 [00:24] Launchpad bug 588595 in Mozilla Firefox "Ubuntu download button renders inccorrectly in Firefox 3.7 (trunk) (affected: 1, heat: 10)" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588595 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [04:02] One of the PPA build machines got stuck: https://launchpad.net/builders/terranova [04:44] OH HAI [04:44] question why do i see in my bug reports listing duplicates of some bugs? [04:45] is this because it is tagged for different distros? [04:45] d1b, because they have multiple targets, yes [04:45] if you're searching in a context that can have multiple tasks, yes. [04:45] its a feature; the ui can be improved [04:45] right and there isn't an option to change that? [04:45] well, this is for his personal list I assume [04:45] yeah :) [04:45] I was chatting with deryck about that a couple weeks back, not on the roadmap immediately [04:45] its a bug, just a hard one to solve [04:45] beuno: oh hardly ;) [04:46] select * from bugs where .... [04:46] d1b: its strictly correct, because it shows the *target* column. [04:46] d1b: select DISTINCT is needed, but these results *are* distinct. [04:46] what I think would be nice would be to show all the targets as one row [04:46] with something nice breaking out the status per target [04:47] lifeless: don't include anything but the bug number for the distrinc ;) [04:47] right, its a UI issue rather than technical [04:47] yeah :) [04:47] * beuno has discussed multiple times [04:47] d1b: if we did that, today, it would not show some tasks (because it shows one task per row). That would be worse. [04:47] right. why not just put them in a sort of larger row if that is the case [04:48] d1b: isn't that what I just said I would like to see? [04:48] lifeless: don't nkow what you asid :) [04:48] look up above [04:48] oh ah no sort of [04:48] one of the problems is that each bugtask can have a different importance [04:48] show the targets sure -but if the status differs show that too [04:48] and default sorting isby importance [04:48] so it makes it hard to decide where to plate it [04:49] give it the highest importance assigned to the bug number# regardless of target? [04:49] beuno: move it around as the users eyes cross [04:49] haahahah [04:49] beuno: different areas of the screen [04:50] oh, life would get very intersting if we could know where people's eyes are going :) [04:50] beuno: appropriately pretty models of the appropriate gender can control that :P [04:51] heh [04:52] it's amazing when you see the eye-tracking software show you how people's eyes go straight to people's exposed areas on ads, no matter how much people try [04:52] so just reuse some of the old ubuntu material then ;) [04:52] beuno: its how we got here .... really not surprising [04:56] lifeless, what was surprising is that the first look is *always* at the eyes [04:56] big brother is following you! [04:57] http://www.hughsandeman.co.uk/media/blogs/archive/bigbrother.JPG [04:58] beuno: I wonder if its worth doing a little (v) and (^) on duplicate results [04:58] beuno: labelled 'next task of this bug' [04:58] beuno: duplicate results being the wrong thing to say, of course. But you know what I mean. [04:59] beuno: so with three tasks, the first shown would have [04:59] v [04:59] the second [04:59] v^ [04:59] the third [04:59] ^ [04:59] yeah, the problem always comes back to which one to show first [04:59] beuno: but this means you don't are [04:59] *care* [04:59] beuno: because it wouldn't be grouping them, there is no tension with sorting [05:00] some query magic needed still to determine next/prev on this page/not on this page. [05:00] lifeless, you still need to sort it some place one the list though [05:00] but it at least has a clear behaviour [05:00] and choose which one to show first [05:00] beuno: you place them all on the list [05:00] no? [05:00] beuno: exactly as they are today [05:01] beuno: just add a really small tasteful link to the next/prev tasks of that bug beside the bug target [05:02] lifeless, I don't follow. You still show all 3 of them? [05:02] or you show 1 row, with prev/next [05:03] I am looking at: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~beuno [05:04] the "In" column is the target [05:04] all hree [05:05] or you could show a + or something with a popup that lists all the tasks (and still show each task as separate rows [05:05] I see, just so you could visualize it better? [05:05] beuno: I'm saying, don't mess with the table. Annotate the rows that have the same bugid in some way to make the duplication self documenting and explicator [05:06] y [05:06] gothca [05:06] mmm goth [05:06] so it wouldn't really solve this dupe-look-a-like issue [05:06] it may make it feel worst [05:06] but it will explain better what's going on [05:06] it's a nice step forward I think [05:08] lifeless, something else we could fiddle with, is moving the target next to the bug # [05:09] so people understand this relatonship better [05:09] perhaps visually group somehow ? [05:09] like with a slightly darker border athe outer edge of their two rows [05:10] yeah, something like that [05:10] beuno: that would be nice too [05:10] where is the bug to write this stuff up in [05:13] lifeless, bug 1357 no less! [05:13] Launchpad bug 1357 in Launchpad Bugs "Bug listings include reports multiple times for multiple targets (affected: 7, heat: 32)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357 [05:13] 4 digit bug! [05:13] \o/ [05:13] beuno: would you like the honours ? [05:13] oh sure, why not [05:14] haven't done this in a while, I'm nervous! [05:14] ha! [05:19] * beuno comments [05:24] lifeless, off to bed. Nice talking UI and Launchpad to you again! [05:24] beuno: likewise, sleep well! [05:24] * beuno waves [05:32] beuno: good night! :) === spm` is now known as spm === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === hrw|gone is now known as hrw === henninge_ is now known as henninge [09:10] What's the best way of requesting a feature/change to Launchpad? [09:10] At present, Launchpad links to bugs if a comment fits a syntax like bug #xxxxx [09:10] dobedobedoh: file a bug in https://launchpad.net/launchpad, or ask here [09:11] ok [09:11] It would be quite handy if it also recognised something like (Closes: #xxxxxx) [09:11] As per the debian devleoper reference [09:11] i would kind of expect that to also actually close the bug [09:11] i think it does match that in commit messages? [09:12] actually isn't the debian standard to say "LP: #1", to distinguish it from debbugs? [09:12] haven't seen it match in commit messages yet [09:12] (Closes: #XXXXXX) is Debian-specific. [09:13] The Launchpad equivalent is LP: #XXXXXX, as poolie says. [09:13] (Closes: #XXXXXX) could perhaps link to the relevant Debian bug. [09:13] Okay - fair enough [09:17] There was another question I had - when adding comments, is there any markdown or other syntax highlighting? [09:17] Or handy way of posting a log excerpt without having it line wrapped? === bpeel_away is now known as bpeel [09:44] hi all! [09:44] help! we need to deploy code urgently and launchpad is down. :< [09:45] anyone know what the ETA for loggerhead coming back is? [09:46] marktheunissen: see topic :) [09:47] ah gotcha [09:47] * LinuxJedi was trying to look into code on lp to fix some valgrind warnings when it happened ;) [09:48] Hi everyone [09:49] Is this correct place for asking questions about vmbuilder on ubuntu. [09:58] hmm, seems to be back? [09:58] is it safe to user? [09:58] *user [09:58] *use === mthaddon changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net/ | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [11:26] hi [11:26] how can I clean PPA's APT archive from packages? [11:27] bumping versions is not possible [11:27] I think Ubuntu has a downgrade script somewhere [11:27] I've not used it myself [11:27] try asking in #ubuntu [11:27] ok [11:29] Ubuntu has ppa-purge but it removes PPA's packages from system. I want to remove packages from APT archive of my PPA. [11:30] hrw: just delete them [11:31] how much time it takes between "packaged deleted" LP message and getting them removed? [11:32] ok, done [11:32] thx [11:32] now need to reupload my source [11:32] it takes up to about 15 minutes sometimes [11:33] you can't re-upload the same version [11:33] you must bump it [11:33] even when I deleted it from LP? [11:33] I see what you mean in your original question now [11:33] yes, even when you delete it [11:33] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/990 [11:33] ok, will bump then === bencer_ is now known as bencer [12:21] I'm having yet more problems related to my emails. The latest commit at https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-watkins-credativ/openobject-addons/crm_max_fix is by "Daniel Watkins ", which is related to ~daniel-watkins-credativ. However, the link on that page points to ~daniel-thewatkins, which is no longer associated with the email. [12:21] Is there anyone available to have a poke and work out what's going on? [12:37] Odd_Bloke: who are you logged in as in "bzr launchpad-login"? [12:38] (executing that will show you) [12:44] LinuxJedi: daniel-watkins-credativ [12:48] Odd_Bloke: hmm... really odd, maybe its something to do with the ssh keys used [13:03] Odd_Bloke: Commit authors are tracked as a separate mapping from email addresses to users. [13:03] I don't know of a way to get them moved across. [13:04] :( [13:04] Shall I file a bug/question or something? [13:05] A question, perhaps. === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [13:08] hiya [13:09] could I interest anybody in sharing their wisdom about using bzr, launchpad, code reviews, launchpadlib, hacking in a nice way or any other app development related topic at Ubuntu App Developer Week? :-) [13:11] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/123948 filed. === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === LinuxJedi is now known as LinuxJedi|away === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:26] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54867642/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.armel-cross-toolchain_1.28_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz shows that libc6-armel-cross is not available. But this package is present in this PPA APT archive... what is wrong? === gary_poster changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net/ | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: gary_poster | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [14:28] hrw: remind me of your PPA url again? [14:28] https://edge.launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/arm-cross-compiler/+build/1945328 === salgado-brb is now known as salgado [14:31] hrw: libc6-armel-cross might not be installable for some reason, does it have all its dependencies available? [14:31] rechecking now [14:34] installed fine [14:34] directly from ppa [14:35] can you retry the build please [14:35] sure [14:35] it may not have been published in time [14:35] hi [14:35] is it possible to comment out a line in a recipe? [14:58] bigjools: same [15:02] hrw: the queue is quite big, your build won't have finished yet? [15:02] it failed already [15:03] https://edge.launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/arm-cross-compiler/+build/1945391 [15:04] you uploaded a new version? [15:05] yes [15:06] you can just retry the original if it failed [15:06] new ver is same just version bumped [15:07] I realise - I'm just saying you don't need to do that to retry a failed build [15:07] ah, did not know [15:13] I am doing a test installation here [15:16] hrw: ok so libc6-armel-cross depends on libgcc1-armel-cross which depends on gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi-base which does not exist [15:16] you can use the "chdist" tool to work this out BTW [15:18] sorry then [15:18] too much builds of the same [15:22] ok, another 1.5h of builds to wait (+ queue) === LinuxJedi|away is now known as LinuxJedi === geser_ is now known as geser === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [16:35] I have 1.35 in PPA which just started building and 1.36 freshly uplaoded which fix bug in 1.35. will 1.35 build be killed with new upload or not? [16:36] hrw: if it already started, no [16:37] hrw: can I suggest that you use pbuilder locally to test your builds [16:37] PPAs are not a build testing service [16:38] I do also in pbuilder - just it passed in it as it builds arch+all [16:43] thanks for all help bigjools and have a nice weekend [16:43] hrw: no problem [16:43] and thanks [16:44] abentley: ping [16:44] nessita, hi. [16:44] abentley: good morning! would you have some minutes to talk about a possible issue with lp:ubuntuone-client code? beuno suggested that you may help us [16:45] abentley: basicaly, https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client is reporting that latest version of trunk is 627 [16:45] abentley: and in our local copies of trunk we have upto revno 671 [16:45] Okay. [16:45] abentley: revno 627 was landed on 2010-08-11 [16:46] nessita, actually, I see 627 just landed. [16:46] abentley: LP is sayins "21 hours ago" for revno 627 [16:47] nessita, Sorry, meant to type 628. [16:48] nessita, which landed 10 minutes ago. [16:48] abentley: yes, that was tarmac that is running in a cron job [16:48] abentley: we already disabled [16:49] abentley: the problem is that upto yesterday trunk had 671 revnos [16:49] abentley: and today only to 627 [16:49] abentley: and besides the revno numbers mismatch, the code for those revnos is gone as well (I know we can recover that, but we'd like to diagnose what happened) [16:49] nessita, what do you see if you do "bzr missing" with a local copy against trunk? [16:50] abentley: running the command right now [16:51] abentley: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ [16:51] oops [16:51] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/487870/ [16:53] nessita, it looks like facundo@taniquetil.com.ar had revno 627, merged 671, committed and pushed. [16:54] abentley: that's for revno 628 right? [16:55] nessita, yes. But actually that was committed and pushed by tarmac? [16:55] abentley: we should avoid looking at thta revno, it landed when trunk was already messed up [16:55] abentley: yes, we mostly land branches using tarmac [16:55] abentley: see this: https://pastebin.canonical.com/36736/ is the output of [16:55] bzr log -r627..671 --show-ids === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [16:56] abentley: as you can see, there are all the missing revnos [16:57] hmm. So it seems like the new revno 628 does include everything up to 671, or else bzr missing would have shown more. [16:58] abentley: maybe, I can do a recursive diff to check [16:58] nessita, I'm not aware of any way the revisions can be accidentally removed from the timeline. It should only happen if you uncommit or push --overwrite. [17:00] abentley: I see. Can we know if that actually happened? because as far as we know we haven't pushed with --overwrite [17:00] abentley: we're really worried about this, and it would be very important to understand what happened === hrw is now known as hrw|gone [17:01] nessita, no, our server doesn't know what command is being run when a branch is changed. [17:01] nessita, rick mcbride is subscribed to revision notifications, so he should have been emailed when this happened. Looks like no one else is subscribed. [17:02] abentley: I'll ask him, thanks. Just to be sure I understand, is there any chance that today's maintenance had something to do with this? [17:02] abentley: we land all the branches using tarmac, except for tags that we push "by hand" [17:03] nessita, I can't think of a way that it would be implicated. [17:03] is very, very unlikely that someone ran push --overwrite :-/ [17:04] abentley: anyways, thanks a lot for your help, I'll try to find more info from rmcbride [17:14] nessita: just got back from retrieving lunch. I'll dig through the rev notifications [17:15] rmcbride: thanks! === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [17:23] abentley: so, can we disable the ability to do push --overwrite to a given project? or can we log that somehow? or at least what can we do today to be able to debug it tomorrow? === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [17:30] abentley: still around? === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [18:09] What's the bzr equivalent of "git remote add origin"? [18:11] lucidfox: it might be bzr pull --remember [18:11] though I don't really know what the effect of that git command would be [18:12] hello, i created a new ppa and uploaded my sources, the upload was successful, even as i did not add my pgp key to my profile. Then i added my key and dput tells me: Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net. But nothing happens, i am waiting for about an hour..... Any ideas? === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [18:14] dob_: run with --force [18:14] upload was successful [18:15] how long will i have to wait for the status information in my repo? [18:16] ah okay [18:16] now i got a email [18:16] that it's accepted [18:17] james_w`> ah right, bzr help push clarified the matters [18:17] hi thank you very much [18:17] It's now in my repository === LinuxJedi is now known as LinuxJedi|food [18:24] nessita, back. [18:29] abentley: hello again! [18:30] abentley: my team and I were wondering, can we disable the ability to do push --overwrite to a given project? or can we log that somehow? or at least what can we do today to be able to debug it tomorrow? [18:31] abentley: rmcbride received an email, this morning saying that "44 revisions were removed from the branch." [18:31] nessita, that suggests it was a user-driven change, not a bug in the hosting code. [18:32] nessita, I don't think you can disable push --overwrite. bzr generally trusts its user. [18:32] nessita, since you already have a bot managing the branch, why not make the bot the only one who can write to it? [18:33] nessita, this is what we do in Launchpad. [18:33] abentley: yes, we'll try that. Biut we al [18:33] oops, wrong enter [18:34] abentley: but we also need some sort of logging... can we do that? at least for pushes --overwrite? or to what command was used to push? [18:35] nessita, there is logging on the user side that would show this. On the server side, we deal with lower-level primitives. [18:36] nessita, e.g. we know that a branch has changed from one revision-id to another, not that push was issued. [18:37] nessita, and if sftp is used, we don't even know that. [18:38] abentley: ok then, thanks for your time [18:40] adeuring, you disappeared again [18:41] heh === matsubara is now known as matsubara-dr === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:08] does anybody know how long it will be before staging is up? It seems like it has been updating the code for the last four hours. === james_w` is now known as james_w === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === matsubara-dr is now known as matsubara === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === LinuxJedi|food is now known as LinuxJedi [19:45] just checking ... are you guys aware that the Google Maps API is busted? [19:45] looks like the key is expired === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [19:47] hi kirkland. yeah, we're aware. Not sure what the state of our fix is, though I thought we had disabled the maps on edge now. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [19:50] I think it's actually a change in Google's SSL support, not the key though. [19:50] sinzui knows all, I believe. [19:52] I know nothing about a 10,000 SSL fee [19:52] I am an engineer === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [19:53] heh [20:43] jelmer: anything needed for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/ontologies to be approved? I'm not too familiar with setting up imports [20:55] yofel, hi [20:55] yofel, mainly for somebody in the vcs-imports team to approve the import [20:56] k, will wait then [20:56] yofel: Looking at that import, I think it should be under the ontologies project on launchpad though [20:56] rather than under project-neon [20:57] I don't think we have a project for that [21:02] how do i create a new spec (blueprint ) ? [21:02] i'm looking https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~smoser and i can't figure out how to add a new one. [21:09] Is there a sample or sandbox project on Launchpad, that I could use for playing around with without spamming a real project? [21:17] i figured out my issue above. [22:03] http://popey.com/~alan/aaaaaaargh.png etc [22:03] trying to file a bug with apport on lucid, i get that.. is this a launchpad issue? [22:03] (note: I can browser to lp on that machine fine) [22:17] popey: that would appear to be a local issue; *or* something is buggered :P [22:17] popey: can you see what name its trying to lookup (strace or something might help there) === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [22:24] lifeless: http://popey.com/~alan/apport_trace.log [22:25] popey: its firing off /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk [22:26] you'll want follow-fork, and you can look in ityourself ;P [22:26] just for for resolver calls [22:26] message understood :D [22:26] * popey is not an strace expert [22:26] thanks though :) [22:28] popey: I have a few things to do here like checking for earthquake damage ;P [22:28] or I would be willing to read through the MB's of data you'll be generating. [22:29] fun! [22:30] we're in rangiora http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/quakes/3366241g-maps.html [22:31] http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4094979/Huge-earthquake-rocks-Christchurch === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [23:28] hi guys! can i hope that the timeout error goes away from this page anytime soon? - https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter= === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [23:50] mlaci: what OOPS ID did you get [23:50] !oops [23:50] An OOPS is a system error in launchpad, please see https://help.launchpad.net/Oops