[02:23] <[sleepy]> hello
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> Yo :D
[02:24] <[sleepy]> heh
[02:26] <harrisonk> If a system crashes because of a program which log file should I look at?
[02:26] <stlsaint> harrisonk: messages
[02:27] <harrisonk> messages?
[02:27] <[sleepy]> sup people
[02:27] <harrisonk> [sleepy]:If a system crashes because of a program which log file should I look at?
[02:27] <[sleepy]> idk
[02:28] <stlsaint> harrisonk: you said a log right?
[02:28] <[sleepy]> im a noob lol
[02:28] <stlsaint> i suggest messages or messages.1
[02:28] <[sleepy]> booted ubuntu yesterday lol
[02:28] <stlsaint> :D
[02:28] <harrisonk> okay
[02:28] <stlsaint> [sleepy]: lol, welcome mate :D
[02:28] <[sleepy]> haha drawingduck sent me here
[02:28] <harrisonk> would that be in /var/log?
[02:29] <stlsaint> harrisonk: yep yep
[02:30] <harrisonk> looks like syslog
[02:30] <harrisonk> *looks like a syslog
[02:30] <harrisonk> if X is crashing is there a log for that?
[02:34] <stlsaint> harrisonk: hrm, maybe the Xorg.0.log
[02:34] <stlsaint> ;)
[02:49] <duanedesign> also ~/.xsession-errors. For the record, this file usually
[02:49] <duanedesign> receives stderr from X programs which run in the background, so it is
[02:49] <duanedesign> a valuable diagnostic tool if something goes wrong.
[02:50] <stlsaint> duanedesign: nice...i never looked at it this way :D
[02:51] <duanedesign> stlsaint: usually people don'tnotice it until a buggy program fills the log up with a couple GB of information
[02:52] <duanedesign> that bug might be fixed now. But their was a bug at on point were that file would not get rotated and get huge
[02:53] <stlsaint> i c
[03:44] <zkriesse> heyllo haywire_
[03:44] <haywire_> zkriesse, yeah, man...whazzup?
[03:45] <zkriesse> haywire_: Just welcoming you to the channel/saying hi/wazzup
[03:45] <zkriesse> and the same to you tieinv
[03:45] <haywire_> zkriesse, cool...i'm just lurkin... not having any problems tonite... heh heh... xubuntu behaving itself...
[03:45] <zkriesse> haywire_: Very good
[03:47] <haywire_> I even solved my firewire problem earlier tonite with help from the forums... now controls my Sony DV cam... I'm crackin' each linux hurdle one at a time...
[03:47] <stlsaint> haywire_: i prefer the bundle method...break a bunch of stuff then fix them in budles :D
[03:47] <stlsaint> (that gets you alot of FAILS though) LOL
[03:48] <haywire_> yeah... sounds like a tangled bundle of a/v cables ...hardy harr...
[03:49] <haywire_> The things I just can't overcome are 3 hardware incompatibilities I have run into...
[03:51] <phillw> haywire_: on the plus side, you're learning loads - so do please post answers for thos following you :-)
[03:51] <stlsaint> +1
[03:51] <aveilleux> ++
[03:52] <haywire_> phillw, I have one PIII with an incompatible VGA card...screwy graphics on all linux distros I've tried...
[03:54] <haywire_> Next prob. is incompatibility to do network printing to an HP all-in-one printer I have served up on a win' machine... that feature is not supported on my model...
[03:55] <haywire_> Finally, I would love to use the magic jack phone line interface natively in linux.... I wish they would "get off the pot" and fullfill their plans to support linux in 2010 like they say...
[03:56] <phillw> haywire_: google-fu is your friend, if you're running a PIII, then you may want have a look at lubuntu / xubuntu, they are pretty decent at older kit. (I use lubuntu, but xubuntu has been around a lot longer)
[03:59] <haywire_> Now the GOOD NEWS:  I am dual bootin' XP and Xubuntu 9.10 on this machine (a P4 1.7Ghz, 512 ram) running a 32" LCD monitor with its Native resolution of 1360x768 that looks better than windoze is capable of...
[04:00] <haywire_> Also running dual drives... and starting to learn my way around linux CLI - I'm an old dos user, and have to "unlearn" most of that to make sense of linux...I am AMAZED already and in awe of the power of the linux command line...
[04:03] <phillw> haywire_: just be in awe of it, as you do not "are you sure <y/n>" with cli on linux
[04:03] <phillw> *do not get*
[04:03] <Appl6> phillw does not use aptitude (or uses -y).
[04:04] <phillw> Appl6: phillw runs development releases, backups are really, really important :p
[04:04] <haywire_> phillw, I can appreciate the fact that linux doesn't nag you to death with all of the "are you sure, really, really sure?" crap.. If i tell the os to do something, I'm pretty sure I want it to do it... .heh heh..
[04:04] <Appl6> [y/n] is nice for dangerous operations.  And most utilities that do dangerous things give you [y/n].
[04:05] <haywire_> Oh I have had some pretty good disasters with my aforementioned philosophy.... ;-)
[04:06] <phillw> haywire_:  and Appl6 do take the time to read http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=326
[04:08] <phillw> If in doubt, do check. There are some times you need root privalidges, but they should be exceptions as opposed to the rule. Always double check :-)
[04:08] <Appl6> phillw: What?  I didn't give any commands.  Unless you were telling me that "aptitude -y" is a dangerous command?
[04:09] <phillw> aptitude requires a sudo before it to work, that grants temporary root privalideges
[04:10] <phillw> where ever possible, use Synaptics Package Mananger and Update Manager
[04:11] <haywire_> Yep..point taken, especially for a newbie like myself... all that power can really get you in trouble if you "aim for an oak tree"....
[04:13] <haywire_> phillw, Thanks for the tip.  I think my favorite feature in linux just may be the tab-auto complete... I don't remember anything that useful in Dos...
[04:13] <stlsaint> duanedesign: ping
[04:13] <duanedesign> poke
[04:13]  * phillw is and apt person, not aptitude. The differences for apt can be found at the bottom of http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=4 (the guys helped write them)
[04:14] <duanedesign> yeah. I use apt first, and then aptitude if apt doesn't work
[04:15] <phillw> http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=57  apllies to the ubuntu forum area also. Linux give you complete control - mess it up & you kill it
[04:15] <duanedesign> stlsaint: hello
[04:16] <phillw> duanedesign: it's still wierd when apt will do a job where aptitude can not & vice - versa... be much easier if they settled the differences and we had just one :p
[04:17] <stlsaint> duanedesign: how can i get dcc messages in irssi? do i need to load a script
[04:19] <haywire_> getting late - cy'all
[04:39] <stlsaint> nhandler_: ping
[04:39] <stlsaint> aw shucks hes gone
[04:39] <zkriesse> Hello Appl6
[04:40] <zkriesse> ah stlsaint you came to youth and then left?
[04:40] <Appl6> zkriesse: Hello.  Did this channel explode for everyone or just me?
[04:40] <stlsaint> zkriesse: thats cause no one said HI to me!!! >:|
[04:40] <zkriesse> Appl6: Ah I haven't left....yet
[04:40] <stlsaint> Appl6: just you
[04:40] <zkriesse> stlsaint: ok HI!
[04:40] <stlsaint> 03:29 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Appl6
[04:40] <stlsaint> 03:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Appl6
[04:41] <Appl6> stlsaint: I see, thanks.
[14:01] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[14:23] <sabqat9> can't get my laptop with ubuntu 10.04 to recognize or use my internet connection (this is a new problem) (i have been using the system normally for about two months with no problems)
[14:23] <sabqat9> is this an appropriate place to ask questions like this?
[14:50] <stlsaint> sabqat9: sure
[14:50] <stlsaint> sabqat9: does your system pick up and wireless broadcast?
[15:11] <sabqat9> sorry for the long delay - i didn't think anyone was listening - are you still there?
[15:12] <sabqat9> before i went and fooled around with too much - i went and did a restart (several times) - finally after about the fourth restart - ubuntu is working properly again
[15:59] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[16:05] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[16:06] <paultag> hey duanedesign
[16:06] <paultag> hey Silver_Fox_
[16:07] <Silver_Fox_> Hello paultag .
[16:07] <paultag> Silver_Fox_: How goes?
[16:07] <Silver_Fox_> I live.
[16:08] <Silver_Fox_> How is paultag  ?
[16:08] <paultag> Silver_Fox_: Just chillaxing. Reviewing some Whube stuff. Check out the nifty graph! -- http://github.com/whube/whube/network
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Hi
[16:57] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[17:03] <sebsebseb> Silver_Fox_: Hello
[17:29] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: hello
[17:29] <Silver_Fox_> Hello duanedesign .
[18:15] <bdogg> hey can someone help me with a problem i had after updating to 10.10
[18:20] <bdogg> join #ubuntu+1
[18:27] <zkriesse> bdogg: it's /join #ubuntu
[18:34] <AndrewMC> zkriesse: +1 is for devlopment releaces
[18:45] <zkriesse> Ah
[19:36] <HungBat> wx-config not found...(cached) error: no result
[19:36] <HungBat> how to fix?