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[00:20] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, that does not work
[00:21] <El_Presidente> i tried that
[00:24] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: what do you mean? removing that line is the same as using position_fix=0
[00:24] <El_Presidente> i know but it does not help :(
[00:25] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: can you force using position_fix=2, then?
[00:25] <El_Presidente> i can try later when im running linux again
[00:25] <crimsun_> if it doesn't work with position_fix=0, then that looks like a regression outside the sound driver
[00:25] <El_Presidente> but im sure that my bisection was correct
[00:26] <El_Presidente> brb
[00:29] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, options snd-hda-intel position_fix=2 that way?
[00:30] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: yes, and make sure you have /no other options snd-hda-intel/ lines
[00:30] <crimsun_> grep -nH snd-hda-intel /etc/modprobe.d/*
[00:31] <El_Presidente> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:42:#options snd-hda-intel bdl_pos_adj=128
[00:31] <El_Presidente> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:43:options snd-hda-intel position_fix=2
[00:31] <El_Presidente> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:44:#options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0
[00:31] <El_Presidente> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:45:#options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[00:31] <El_Presidente> /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf:1:alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[00:31] <El_Presidente> /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf:2:alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
[00:31] <El_Presidente> seems ok
[00:31] <El_Presidente> brb
[00:31] <crimsun_> BTW, you should only ever have /1/ options snd-hda-intel line
[00:31] <crimsun_> it's pretty bad to split module options across lines
[00:32] <El_Presidente> okay didnt know that
[00:32] <El_Presidente> well i hope this works now ;)
[00:33] <crimsun_> .oO( I hate hardware sometimes. Just sayin'. )
[00:34] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, now my mic does not work anymore
[00:46] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: can you retry position_fix=0 after a cold reboot?
[00:46] <El_Presidente> ok
[00:46] <El_Presidente> brb
[00:46] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: and are you /certain/ that you're running the latest firmware for your motherboard?
[00:46] <El_Presidente> F14
[00:46] <El_Presidente> its the most recent
[00:47] <El_Presidente> well i find it strange that an error for a different codec produces the error here
[00:47] <El_Presidente> the ma-770-ud3 has an realtec 888
[00:47] <El_Presidente> my mainboard has 889
[00:47] <crimsun_> oh GAWD
[00:47] <El_Presidente> ?
[00:48] <crimsun_> I need to punch your motherboard manufacturer in the face.
[00:48] <El_Presidente> well both boards are gigabyte ;)
[00:48] <crimsun_> we can't handle different codecs for the /same/ SSID at that level
[00:48] <El_Presidente> http://www.gigabyte.de/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=3951 ALC888
[00:48] <El_Presidente> thats the board for your fix
[00:49] <crimsun_> sigh, I'll whip up a fix for you to test this weekend if that's ok
[00:49] <crimsun_> we'll need to check the specific codec ssid and codec revision for that SSID :(
[00:50] <El_Presidente> http://gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2638&dl=1#sp thats mine
[00:50] <crimsun_> now I really hate gigabyte
[00:50] <El_Presidente> ALC889A
[00:50] <El_Presidente> sure no problem
[00:50] <El_Presidente> there is an option for the snd-hda-intel driver
[00:51] <El_Presidente> model=889
[00:51] <El_Presidente> i also tried that, but it didnt help
[00:52] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, do you still need me with linux?
[00:52] <El_Presidente> i have to call a customer ;)
[00:54] <snadge> kinda offtopic.. but is there an easy way to remove the obsolete kernels that tend to build up on your box over time?
[00:54] <Muscovy> Not very easy.
[00:54] <Muscovy> Easiest I know of is to untick all the older number is in Synpatic.
[00:55] <crimsun_> snadge: Computer Janitor, and manually
[00:55] <snadge> ouch.. maybe thats an excercise for me one day
[00:55] <snadge> i could make the ubuntu kernel janitor.. ukj :p
[00:55] <snadge> cleans up all the headers and other related crap as well
[00:55] <snadge> any source packages etc
[00:55] <crimsun_> snadge: i.e., System > Administration > Computer Janitor
[00:56] <snadge> oooh
[00:56] <snadge> err yeah, computer janitor just asks me if i want to remove nxclient and virtualbox-3.2 .. and thats all i can see that it does? weird
[00:59] <snadge> crimsun_: are you suggesting that i modify this program rather than make a new one specifically to clean up kernels?
[01:01] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, i made a small error with the position_fix=2
[01:01] <El_Presidente> my mic was off ;) it works with that setting
[01:02] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: great, can you add that in a comment?
[01:02] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, i will, do you still have to write a fix?
[01:02] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: yes
[01:02] <crimsun_> (the bug is already assigned to me)
[01:03] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, well if i remember correctly in alsa 1.0.21 my soundcard was detected as unknown
[01:03] <El_Presidente> maybe thats why it worked?
[01:07] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: as more codec/s revisions are added, there is a chance for regression, sure
[01:07] <El_Presidente> ok
[01:16] <snadge> so i wrote a bash script which cleans up old kernels ;)
[01:17] <snadge> ubuntu hasn't sapped me of my nerdiness yet it seems hehe
[01:19] <crimsun_> perhaps Computer Janitor could use a "Clean harder" icon ;)
[01:21] <El_Presidente> a clean by force would be nice ...
[01:38] <El_Presidente> crimsun_, another question (not related to the bug) is there a way to send one sound app to digitally out and the other e.g. skype through stereo out ?
[01:48] <crimsun_> El_Presidente: depending on the hardware and driver capabilities, yes. You can try pavucontrol.
[01:50] <El_Presidente> i have this app already running but i can use either stereo duplex or stereo in and digital out
[01:50] <El_Presidente> it works flawlessly with windows so either im missing something or its not supported?
[02:00] <El_Presidente> good night and ty crimsun_
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[09:11] <jibel> hey timc, nice to see you here. Did you start triaging already ?
[10:44] <seb128> somebody here who knows about launchpadlib?
[10:44] <seb128> or who knows if tag editing is working?
[10:44] <lifeless> #launchpad-dev might be a better place to ask
[10:45] <seb128> right
[10:45] <seb128> though that's rather, if some bug triager feels like doing a small testcase to edit tags that would be nice
[10:45] <seb128> I don't especially want to annoy launchpad guys about that
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[10:52] <lifeless> seb128: we loves the annoyance ;>
[10:52] <lifeless> seb128: I know that webapp tag changing works
[10:52] <lifeless> seb128: via the API can be difference
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[14:25] <bcurtiswx> good morning all
[15:04] <tbsdy_lives> m
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[17:16] <leighman> anyone know anything about pulseaudio, who could help with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.2/+bug/605880 ?
[17:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 605880 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "gwibber-service crashed with ValueError in raw_decode() (affects: 10) (heat: 52)" [Medium,Triaged]
[17:18] <kklimonda> interesting, ubottu is displaying a different report
[17:18] <kklimonda> bug 605880
[17:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 605880 in wine1.2 (Ubuntu) "Winecfg audio tests fail in Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 78)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605880
[17:19] <kklimonda> some cache problem?
[17:19] <leighman> yeh, saw that
[17:19] <leighman> link works fine :/
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[19:44] <chrisccoulson> who can moderate my mail to ubuntu-bugsquad ML?
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[19:47] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson, i got your message...
[19:47] <chrisccoulson> bcurtiswx, i sent it to ubuntu-bugcontrol and ubuntu-bugsquad
[19:47] <chrisccoulson> so you might have got the first one
[19:48] <chrisccoulson> the second one is moderated, because i'm not a member of bugsquad ;)
[19:48] <pedro_> chrisccoulson, done
[19:48] <chrisccoulson> pedro_, cool, thanks
[19:48] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson, hmm, yeah since i use google idk if i got both
[19:48] <pedro_> you're welcome
[19:48] <bcurtiswx> or nvm :P
[19:49] <vish> whaaaaaaat! chrisccoulson not a member of busquad!
[19:49] <chrisccoulson> vish - no, i don't think so
[19:49] <vish> pff! desktop tema ;p
[19:49] <vish> team*
[19:49] <chrisccoulson> i suppose i should subscribe to the ML, seeing as i sent a mail there
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[19:52] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: subscribe and make it web only so you don't get other mails, but the ones you send get in alright
[19:53] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i seem to remember that there was a reason i unsubscribed before
[19:54] <nigelb> I could guess, I was severely tempted a few times
[20:24] <kklimonda> hggdh: bdmurray ping
[20:26] <hggdh> kklimonda: yes>
[20:26] <hggdh> ?
[20:28] <kklimonda> hggdh: are either you or bdmurray are aware of this change: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs?action=diff&rev2=141&rev1=139 and know the reason for it?
[20:29] <bdmurray> I am aware and I do not know the reason nor do I like it.
[20:30] <kklimonda> yeah, neither do I, and there are people on ML talking about it right now - maybe we should restore the last "good" version?
[20:30] <hggdh> kklimonda: +1
[20:31] <hggdh> kklimonda: will you update, or should I?
[20:31] <kklimonda> hggdh: I can do that
[20:31] <hggdh> kklimonda: cool, thank you
[20:32] <kklimonda> or not "You are not allowed to revert this page!" :)
[20:32] <kklimonda> I can do it manually
[20:33] <yofel> thanks
[20:33] <vish> hehe , why were we discussing it for so long! :D
[20:34] <vish> the person who included that seems new , we might as well have removed it earlier ;)
[20:34] <kklimonda> vish: I've completely forgotten about it myself :)
[20:34] <vish> kklimonda: nah , i meant on the mailing list..
[20:37] <yofel> we were arguing about the page and somehow forgot it, I got to the page by chance today and thought I would remind the ML of that ^^
[20:37] <kklimonda> yofel: done
[20:38] <yofel> thanks, looks better
[20:48] <charlie-tca> +1
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[21:08] <hggdh> kklimonda: thank you
[21:23] <Awsoonn> hi all, bug 614067 - the package appears to just need a recompile for 10.10. How can this be acomplished?
[21:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 614067 in lincity-ng (Ubuntu) "lincity-ng links against uninstallable libphysfs-1.0.so.0 (affects: 3) (heat: 129)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614067
[21:23] <Awsoonn> can a Motu kick that off?
[21:25] <yofel> Awsoonn: #ubuntu-motu - it's pretty trivial though
[21:30] <Awsoonn> yofel: thanks. Trivial is good tho, right?
[21:31] <yofel> if it's just a rebuild all it needs is a new changelog entry that triggers it, that's trivial
[21:39] <bdmurray> jibel: I forget did you have any ideas about the system of mine that I cannot upgrade to M?
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[21:44] <Awsoonn> I'm just playing around and tried to build the source package for lincity-ng but it failed looking for opengl libs or headers. I did a apt-get build-dep before trying to compile so I thought that should install all the requirements?
[21:44] <Awsoonn> did I miss a step?
[21:45] <hggdh> Awsoonn: does not sound like it. How did you get the sources?
[21:45] <Awsoonn> apt-get source lincity-ng
[21:46] <Awsoonn> i was using debbuild to build it
[21:46] <hggdh> should have worked...
[21:47] <Awsoonn> *nods* t'ats what I thought :) I see that it installed libgl1-mesa-glx as a depend, which looks like what it wanted I assume
[21:48] <hggdh> IDK, pulling the source now
[21:50] <hggdh> and you debuild -b it?
[21:51] <jibel> bdmurray: latest xserver-xorg-core 2:1.9.0-0ubuntu4 in maverick is supposed to fix that. It has been uploaded to the archive this afternoon.
[21:52] <jibel> bdmurray, can you try to upgrade again (with the main mirror)
[21:53] <hggdh> Awsoonn: WFM
[21:53]  * yofel tries in pbuilder
[21:58] <dyfet> I think bug #628675 could be marked as triaged.
[21:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 628675 in geneweb (Ubuntu) "Search and navigaition fails (affects: 2) (heat: 3444)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628675
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[22:02] <hggdh> dyfet: done
[22:03] <yofel> Awsoonn: wfm too
[22:04]  * hggdh thought dyfet would be in bug-control...
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