[06:53] <ara> good morning all!
[06:57]  * duanedesign waves to ara 
[06:57] <ara> morning duanedesign
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning ara, how long did you keep working yesterday?
[07:12] <ara> morning dholbach
[07:12] <ara> not too long, around 7:30pm
[07:12] <dholbach> and you're up working already again
[07:12] <dholbach> Beta really wouldn't be out without you :)
[07:12]  * dholbach hugs ara
[07:57] <dholbach> hey kim0
[07:58] <kim0> dholbach: hey there
[08:01] <dholbach> hey huats
[09:43] <czajkowski> aloha folks
[10:16] <dholbach> hola randa! :)
[10:50] <randa> hi dholbach
[11:43] <nigelb> hello community!
[13:49]  * nigelb notes its recruiting time!
[14:10] <doctormo> dholbach: Yes, a ground control session would be good to do (and easier since it's in the repositories)
[14:12] <doctormo> jono and akgra aren't here right now, but I did want to ask if I could do a session entitled: "Tips on interacting with a existing developer community" which would focus more on social and ways to interact and common mistakes. is this an appropriate topic?
[14:58] <doctormo> Morning dinda
[14:59] <dinda> Howdy there doctormo!
[15:02] <doctormo> dinda: How is the new job going?
[15:02] <dinda> doctormo: very encouraging - the work folks have done is amazing!
[15:03] <doctormo> dinda: Cool can you give me a link to any of it?
[15:03] <dinda> doctormo: yes, posted some links on my blog - which I finally got listed on planet
[15:05] <dholbach> doctormo, yeah, why not
[15:05] <dholbach> doctormo, oh you added a different one already - that one I like too
[15:05] <doctormo> dholbach: What I'll do is hold off on the second one and then if there are gaps, I'll do the upstream social one.
[15:05] <vish> doctormo: how about titling the session : "The appropriate way to say 'Your work Sucks!'" ;)
[15:06] <dholbach> doctormo, great
[15:08] <paultag> morning guys and gals
[15:08] <dinda> doctormo: http://dindafoss.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/ubuntu-in-education/
[15:08] <doctormo> Hi paultag
[15:08] <paultag> doctormo: morning, how's things?
[15:09] <paultag> doctormo: saw your email to the UBT ML, thanks :)
[15:09] <doctormo> paultag: Oh much better, I'm focusing on other things now :-)
[15:10] <paultag> :)
[15:10] <paultag> Is synaptic still on the default install?
[15:14] <vish> yup..
[15:14] <vish> paultag: ^
[15:15] <paultag> thanks vish. Any idea when it's going to be removed?
[15:15] <vish> paultag: well, the plan was to remove for lucid itself ;)
[15:16] <vish> paultag: but still SC doesnt have all the synaptic goodies
[15:16] <paultag> Hurmm.
[15:16] <paultag> Is there a timeline somewhere?
[15:16] <paultag> or is this being aborted until SC is feature complete?
[15:16] <vish> paultag: so best guess is Natty ;)
[15:16] <paultag> vish: roger, thanks :)
[15:17] <paultag> vish: Oh, lucid or mav ?
[15:17] <vish> papertigers: lucid, was the plan.. but every cycle we postpone :)
[15:17] <paultag> Gotcha.
[15:18] <paultag> thanks vish :)
[15:18] <vish> np.. :)
[15:58] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[16:05] <paultag> hey duanedesign
[16:13] <duanedesign> hello mr tag :)
[16:16] <nigelb> 'lo
[16:16] <paultag> 'lo all
[16:29] <duanedesign> nigelb hello!
[16:39] <nigelb> heya duanedesign :)
[16:40] <nigelb> paultag: http://www.geekosophical.net/?p=507 :P
[16:40] <nigelb> Now, thats the ideal reply
[16:43] <nigelb> wow, the planned look and feel for the fedora site is NICE!
[16:43] <nigelb> http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/95/Wwwfpo-redesign-2010_7-community.png
[16:47] <paultag> nigelb: why do we even waste our time talking about this?
[16:48] <paultag> nigelb: some idiot thinks we're out to get him, I really don't even care about it :)
[16:49] <nigelb> paultag: lol, true
[16:49] <nigelb> but I think the reply is appropriate
[16:50] <paultag> bbl
[16:57] <AlanBell> dholbach: just discussing the ubuntu font in #ubuntu+1
[16:57] <AlanBell> is it going to need a ffe filed to get it in to 10.10? is the plan to get it there?
[16:58] <dholbach> AlanBell, I have no idea - I merely packaged bits up
[16:59] <AlanBell> any idea where should I file a ffe?
[17:00] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[17:05] <AlanBell> bug 629622
[17:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 629622 in ubuntu "ffe: new Ubuntu font (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629622
[17:07] <nigelb> AlanBell: is it available for everyone now?
[17:08] <AlanBell> well no, not yet
[17:08] <AlanBell> but they should probably get the package in, even if empty
[17:18] <dholbach> I'm calling it a day - have a great weekend!
[17:18] <AlanBell> o/ dholbach
[17:19] <dholbach> bye AlanBell
[17:32] <duanedesign> nigelb: the fedora site is looking nice
[18:10] <czajkowski> aloha
[18:15] <AlanBell> o/
[18:28] <duanedesign> some great articles offering experiences and advice on hosting community events http://tinyurl.com/2734qwc
[18:41] <doctormo> all: rocking on wallpapers http://blip.tv/file/4079499 yahoo
[18:44] <vish> AlanBell: it was brought up in the last release meeting, and iain mentioned it might not be ready..
[18:44] <vish> AlanBell: though i dont know if you were asked to file the FFE.. or if there is any new info :)
[18:45] <vish> hmm , that was about the fonts^ , just incase , /me has a bad habit of replying out of context :)
[18:46] <AlanBell> vish: I raised it in #ubuntu+1 and was advised to file the ffe because nobody there knew of plans to include it
[18:48] <vish> AlanBell: yeah, i see you've subscribed iain to the bug , he should probably reply.. but i'm just repeating what happened in the meeting.. :)  they discussed this and it was mentioned that mark was not yet fully satisfied or something of the sort.. so they are not yet sure
[18:48] <vish> and they dint want to commit about the font status yet..
[18:50] <AlanBell> reading it now http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/27/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[19:03] <vish>  also to note is that Canonical dont own the fonts yet until its 1.0 , the fonts are still dalton mags property for now..
[19:05] <AlanBell> vish: yeah, I know about that
[19:06] <vish> AlanBell: yeah guessed so :) ,just mentioned since sladen changed the bug title :)
[19:08] <AlanBell> I think the issue is an open public release rather than the specific version number, although open release and 1.0 tend to mean the same thing
[19:09] <AlanBell> just to be on the final spin it kind of needs to get there somewhat in advance
[19:11] <doctormo> thanks for the awesome comment AlanBell
[19:12] <AlanBell> it was such a good idea, can't think why they didn't actually just do it and get it in to Maverick if they wanted to
[19:27] <vish> doctormo: odd, i cant reach your blog!
[19:27] <vish> doctormo: but saw the vid and wow! :)
[19:28] <vish> could get to blip.tv from liferea...
[19:28] <doctormo> vish: :-) It's kinda cute for a demonstration, much more could be done.
[19:28] <vish> yeah... JUST IMAGINE!  :D
[19:32] <AlanBell> doctormo: what resolution does it render the svg to?
[19:33] <doctormo> AlanBell: Anything, I tested it at 640x480, 800x600 and 1250x800, gnome seems to be doing a good job of it.
[19:36] <doctormo> AlanBell: But the size of the original svg is 1650x1050
[19:44] <AlanBell> yeah, I tried with some svgs which had a small size specified, I think it renders the svg to the pixel size specified in the document properties then stretches that to your screen size
[19:45] <AlanBell> so my small logo svg looked rubbish scaled from 100px to 2048px even though it is a scaleable graphic in theory
[19:49] <doctormo> AlanBell: It's quite easy to pop the svg headers and apply a transform, something that could be done in the gnome wallpaper loading code.
[20:37] <nigelb> czajkowski: like that ubuntu logo on your twitter pic (I must be blind, why didn't I see it before!)
[20:38] <czajkowski> only about a week old I think
[20:38] <czajkowski> nixternal was tweeting them recently
[20:44] <nigelb> Ah, I'm not *that* blind then :D
[20:50] <czajkowski> nope
[20:50] <czajkowski> nigelb: see todays pics of wee cousins then
[20:51] <czajkowski> http://twitpic.com/2kt83d
[20:51] <nigelb> czajkowski: omg! cute :)
[20:52] <czajkowski> she'll be 1 year old in 13 days
[20:52] <czajkowski> http://twitpic.com/2kucup  My goddaughter
[20:54] <nigelb> pretty :)
[20:54] <czajkowski> 6 weeks off her 16th bday
[20:54] <czajkowski> there are 19 year old boys chatting her up at basketball
[20:54] <czajkowski> her father is less than impressed
[20:55] <nigelb> she's only 16... wow
[20:55]  * nigelb feels old
[20:55] <czajkowski> yup
[20:55] <czajkowski> 15 years between the of us
[20:59] <nigelb> I just merged blogs
[21:00] <nigelb> I was having one for web development stuff and one for ubuntu, now its just one :)
[21:19] <Technoviking> Later all, off for the long weekend.
[21:19] <czajkowski> Toodles
[21:19] <czajkowski> <--- Sleep
[21:19]  * nigelb heads to bed too
[21:19] <nigelb> night czajkowski
[22:15] <doctormo> paultag: How do beginners apply for mentors?
[22:39] <pleia2> doctormo: add your name to the BT wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Structure#Mentoring
[22:39] <pleia2> there is a "Seeking Mentor" table down a bit
[22:39] <nigelb> doctormo in BT o.O
[22:39]  * nigelb has an out of whack sleep cycle
[22:42] <duanedesign> nigelb: me too. Been staying up too late working on projects
[22:42] <doctormo> nigelb: Mine was like that, I'm only just getting things straight.
[22:43] <doctormo> nigelb: Like my new wallpaper? I'm trying to make some other ones, see if I can art it up a bit.
[22:43] <nigelb> doctormo: I worked the night yesterday.  Slept all morning and went back to work evening.
[22:43] <nigelb> Now i should be sleeping, but I'm wide awake
[22:43] <nigelb> duanedesign: I feel ya
[22:45] <nigelb> doctormo: out of sync with planet, need to catch up
[22:47] <nigelb> doctormo: SWEEET!
[22:47] <nigelb> wonder if we can have a star studded sky that keeps moving :)
[22:48] <doctormo> nigelb: Why not, as long as the movements are infrequent enough
[22:49] <nigelb> doctormo: the problem is, it should change, but the change should be apparent
[22:49] <nigelb> but then I'm probabl thinking of webshots like application
[22:49] <doctormo> how should it change?
[22:49] <nigelb> I dunno
[22:49] <nigelb> Warning: I may sound incoherent right now, 3 am isn't best of times
[22:50] <AlanBell> nigelb: http://xkcd.com/320/
[22:50] <nigelb> AlanBell: \o/
[22:52] <nigelb> AlanBell: Totally totally agree with small print there
[23:18] <duanedesign> AlanBell: thats great. The beauty of being able to make your own schedule
[23:18] <AlanBell> it is very tempting