[00:15] hiya robert_ancell [00:16] rickspencer3, hey, sorry, missed our 9am [00:16] robert_ancell, yeah yeah [00:16] I tell ya' no respect [00:16] ^read in Rodney Dangerfield voice [00:16] heh [00:16] robert_ancell, as punishment, I shall ask you a question about my poor coding skills [00:16] okey [00:17] so, I have a gstreamer pipeline set up that is streaming the web cam, no problems [00:17] now I want to save a picture out of that [00:17] what do I do? [00:17] I tried linking in a tee, but it fell over [00:17] I think you need to make a jpeg sink or similar [00:18] short answer, I don't know [00:18] robert_ancell, right, so I need to make a tee in order to keep the video flowing [00:18] heh, someone in #gstreamer just told me to use camerabin [00:18] * rickspencer3 checks [03:25] robert_ancell, did you see bug 620733 ? [03:25] Launchpad bug 620733 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy does not remember settings (affects: 7) (dups: 3) (heat: 42)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620733 [03:27] kenvandine, no, I'll have a look [03:28] basically empathy isn't getting the default theme anymore [03:28] since the move to gsettings [03:28] the theme was set in the ubuntu-artwork package, as a gconf key [03:28] i have no idea what the right way to do that is [03:29] hmm, I guess we want to modify ubuntu-artwork to set a gsettings key as well? [03:29] what is the key? [03:34] one sec [03:35] /apps/empathy/conversation/theme adium [03:35] /usr/share/adium/message-styles/ubuntu.AdiumMessageStyle [03:35] robert_ancell, ubuntu-artwork sets a bunch of gconf keys [03:36] makes me wonder what else needs fixing [03:36] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/487585/ [03:37] I don't think anything else has migrated to gsettings - we can just change the defaults in the empathy gsettings key. I think that is the best we can do at the moment [03:37] ok [03:37] hi kenvandine [03:37] yo jcastro [03:37] speaking of the artwork package ... [03:38] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/629216 [03:38] Launchpad bug 629216 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "Replace Cosmos "bundle" with existing wallpaper bundle (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [03:38] this was specced out at UDS but seems to have been dropped through a crack, how do I get it on someone's radar? [03:38] could I get a lucid bug task on bug 625801 [03:38] Launchpad bug 625801 in gnome-web-photo (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gnome-web-photo missing required libxul.so (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625801 [03:40] jcastro, humm... weird that comes from gnome-screensaver [03:40] so that will change screensaver as well [03:40] jcastro, did you see i uploaded the contest wallpapers? [03:41] kenvandine: oh really, I didn't know that, odd, I would have thought the wallpaper thing did it [03:41] jcastro, so you want those same contest wallpapers to be available as a bundle? [03:41] right [03:41] in place of "cosmos" [03:41] since that's kind of old/not very good/off brand [03:41] why not in addition too? [03:41] get the space back. :) [03:41] it wouldn't add space [03:42] The idea was replacing cosmos completely [03:42] not just the bundle [03:46] ok, it would require an exception [03:49] ok, i figured out how to do it [03:50] jcastro, not hard... get someone to ok it as an exception and i'll whip it up then [04:17] jcastro, so i have the ubuntu bundle locally now :) [04:18] woo [04:19] kenvandine: here's the WI, which was supposed to be A3: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/design-m-wallpaper-competition [04:30] kenvandine: ok I followed all the FFe instructions, the only thing I can't really vouch for is risk and testing you've done. [04:49] jcastro, want to test it? [04:57] jcastro, you've got mail [05:00] kenvandine: working over here [05:00] :) [05:00] doesn't remove the cosmos stuff, since that is in gnome-screensavers [05:01] ah [05:01] I already reassigned the bug to that package [05:01] oh well [05:01] kenvandine: what's the interval? [05:03] not sure [05:03] i think it changes a few times a day... [05:03] but it's configurable [05:03] ok I've installed it on 2 machines, I'll use it for a while [05:03] not sure what increment is [05:04] it is "5" [05:04] whatever that means :) [05:04] it isn't 5m [05:04] this is a nice little touch, I think people will dig it [05:04] high five [05:05] i think this should stay in ubuntu-wallpapers and remove cosmos from gnome-screensavers [05:05] if we want to save the space [05:05] I agree [05:05] but they belong here [05:05] it's not just the space, cosmos just doesn't fit anywhere [05:05] pushing my branch is taking forever [05:05] slow ass uplink [05:06] for N we should look at listing bundles seperately [05:06] so people can just easily find it [05:06] what do you mean? [05:06] right now the bundle is like in the middle of the appearance window thumbnails [05:07] they should be like, grouped together or something [05:07] i see [05:07] it is alphabetical now [05:07] i named this "Contest" [05:10] for N I think we should do, from left to right, the default wallpaper, then the bundle, then the solid color [05:10] for the first row [05:11] and then just file the other ones after that in whatever order [05:12] makes sense [05:13] * kenvandine really needs a faster connection [05:13] hate this uplink! === almaisan` is now known as al-maisan [06:33] desrt, ping [07:30] robert_ancell: hey [07:30] what is up, dude? [07:33] hi, i'm not sure but i think i found a little but [07:33] in nautilus, when you try to change de name of a folder in "places", you rigth click on te icon and select rename but after hitting enter the name remains the same until you reboot the browser... [07:36] works ok using C-b [07:52] desrt, hey, a question about gsettings - is there a way to have two multiple schemas with the same key? There is a gconf-defaults settings I need to migrate [08:03] robert_ancell: you can overlap schemas [08:05] desrt, so the particular example is if you have ubuntu-artwork installed the default empathy theme is set to the one in that package - where do I add a schema to change the standard emapthy default to the new ubuntu theme default? [08:05] this sounds like a use for override files [08:06] any documentation? [08:07] mclasen was going to write some [08:07] i think he actually did, too [08:08] good morning [08:08] hm. i don't see the docs [08:08] anyway... [08:09] install a file into the glib-2.0/schemas/ directory [08:09] ending with .gschema.override [08:09] it should look like this: [08:09] [org.gnome.empathy.whatever] [08:09] somesetting="newvalue" [08:09] that should take care of it [08:09] and they're loaded in strcmp order? [08:09] yes [08:10] g_ptr_array_sort (overrides, compare_strings); [08:10] and I'll need to run glib-compile-schemas I guess [08:10] yes [08:10] desrt, ok, thanks! [08:10] i'm not sure what happens if you have two overrides for the same key [08:10] i suspect the one that happens later wins [08:10] didrocks: good morning :) [08:11] certainly an override file always beats the original schema file, though [08:11] all overrides are done after all schemas have been loaded [08:16] hey desrt, how are you ? [08:26] desrt, heh, I notice dconf-editor doesn't understand overrides. They work well otherwise, thanks! [08:31] Laney: hey, do you have any news vs new banshee? === artnay_ is now known as artnay [08:45] didrocks: working hard to package all the libs [08:45] Laney: do not hesitate if you need any help [08:45] (not that I have nothing to do, but if you need… ;)) [08:55] didrocks: just time [08:55] we uploaded new gio-sharp to debian NEW [08:55] gkeyfile-sharp waits for sponsoring again to NEW [08:55] Laney: when do you think we can get that to universe? (I'm afraid if we don't have the call for testing today, it will be hard to get it to default to UNE) [08:56] didrocks: right now we could upload a version without the new hardware support [08:56] would that work? [08:56] then you can have another revision with it enabled in a few days [08:56] Laney: no, because we can't get hal back to the CD [08:57] (you mean 1.7.4, right?) [08:57] or .5 with the new stuff turned off [08:57] but it's still requires hal then, right? [08:57] yep [08:57] yeah, that doesn't solve the issue so :-) [08:58] it's not all ready for upload yet, that's the problem [08:58] otherwise, i will have promoted 1.7.2 by default some weeks ago already ;) [08:58] right, I understand [08:58] if you want then a package for gtk-sharp-beans is needed [08:58] it's just that I wanted to make you aware from the timeline [08:58] but coordinate with meebey on #debian-cli because he was going to work on it [08:58] it's an unstable library: copy the packaging of gio-sharp from git [08:58] we are already really really late, that's why I honestly think that the release team won't accept it by default if we don't have this week-end testing [08:59] heading to #debian-cli [08:59] I have to go do some real work now, will be back soon [08:59] sure, see you :) [09:00] hey there [09:00] how is everybody doing? [09:00] salut seb128, I'm fine there :) [09:00] you? [09:00] I'm fine thanks [09:01] did some tweaking to my config, my IRC should stop connecting on session start [09:01] which will avoid having join, quit when I start the computer but don't want to start IRC yet :p [09:04] great, no more seb128's flickering :-) [09:04] should be better [09:05] I sometime get isp flickering or restart my session for testing but should less that it was [09:05] what's your isp again? orange? [09:05] yes [09:05] ok [09:06] * didrocks notes that to not take it for his new accomodation :-) [09:06] the issue is rather being not really close from them [09:06] in fact it's over the noise level they sell dsl [09:06] ok, the NRA is far from home? [09:06] it was quite some argumentation to convince them to try [09:06] yeah, that can't be fixed easily, apart from paying a lot to build a new NRA closer :-) [09:07] something like 6km [09:07] urgh [09:07] ;-) [09:07] see I don't blame them a lot [09:07] yeah, in that case, it sounds inevitable [09:09] not complaining it works most of the time [09:09] morning [09:09] is LP down? [09:09] it's just flacky sometime when it rains [09:10] hey rodrigo_ [09:10] rodrigo_, the code hosting is yes [09:10] * vish confused if that^ was a joke or true :) [09:10] ah [09:10] "Launchpad: Code hosting offline 8.00-9.30 UTC on Friday 3rd September" [09:10] right [09:11] didrocks: \./ [09:11] it's friday !!!! [09:11] lut baptistemm [09:11] baptistemm: yeah, salut! can you paste me the link again please? ;) [09:11] baptistemm: does it requires feature freeze exception? [09:12] what? [09:12] oh its friday..!!! i had to remind didrocks about SRU Bug 587853 [09:12] Launchpad bug 587853 in cheese (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "After video recording, record/take photo button becomes disabled (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 58)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587853 [09:12] ;) [09:13] seb128: it's a new release of bluez IIRC or something bluetoohish :) [09:13] vish: yeah, doing it today :) [09:13] didrocks: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/625771 [09:13] Launchpad bug 625771 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Sponsor new upstream release (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,New] [09:14] didrocks: thanks :) [09:14] * didrocks shoudn't tell everyone "ping me on Friday", it works too well :-) [09:14] hehe! [09:14] baptistemm: does it require a feature freeze exception? can you get it in that case? [09:15] baptistemm: it seems they are some new support (not only bug fixing release) [09:15] see my comment on that bug [09:15] baptistemm, are you sure you maverick version is broken? [09:15] baptistemm, wasn't your breakage the udev change pitti fixed around the time you updated? [09:15] baptistemm, could you install the maverick version and make sure it's broken [09:16] seb128: I use 4.69 on 2 machines (1 maverick and 1 lucid) and both are broken [09:16] there is nothing in that changelog that indicates it would fix your issue [09:16] baptistemm, what 4.69? [09:16] baptistemm, bug #https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/4.69-0ubuntu2 [09:16] ups [09:16] bug #621911 [09:16] Launchpad bug 621911 in bluez (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Bluetooth device not detected (affects: 3) (heat: 356)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621911 [09:17] baptistemm, ^ did you check that's not this bug that you have? [09:17] I would bet it's that and not the update [09:17] you just included that change in your update [09:18] didrocks, ^ [09:19] okay, I'll look to that [09:19] (seb128: I follow the discussion) [09:19] :) [09:19] baptistemm, didrocks: in any case it needs a ubuntu-release review [09:19] I'm not wanting to approve this one [09:19] it has a lot of new code [09:20] I would rather back the few fixes if they are required [09:20] hence my request for FFe :) didn't look at the code yet but if you did that, yeah, seems a big change [09:21] I didn't no [09:21] I just read the NEWS summary [09:21] lot of adding [09:22] right [09:51] oh, chrome advertisment [09:53] where? [10:11] mvo, hi [10:11] mvo, bug #628823, do you understand it? should it be maverick tasked or not? [10:11] Launchpad bug 628823 in software-center (Ubuntu) "password request for proxy access everytime the install button is clicked (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628823 [10:16] seb128: yeah, aptdaemon changed recently [10:16] seb128: but it should remember the auth for this :/ [10:17] glatzor: do you have a idea about this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/628823 [10:17] Launchpad bug 628823 in software-center (Ubuntu) "password request for proxy access everytime the install button is clicked (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [10:18] I'm sure mvo will hates me rsn for all the pings I'm giving him since yesterday ;-) [10:19] * seb128 hugs mvo [10:21] mvo, I've the feeling bug #612825 is yours as well [10:21] seb128: heh, not at all, and I fixed a bunch of them [10:21] Launchpad bug 612825 in language-selector (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "can't install new languages (nothing happen) (affects: 5) (heat: 30)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612825 [10:21] mvo, I would not be surprised if language selector would need to be updated for aptdaemon changes [10:22] yeah, I take care of this [10:22] thanks! [10:22] it needs a maintainer btw ;) [10:22] you are made of awesome [10:22] * mvo wonders if seb128 volunteers [10:22] I will make you get plenty of tea at UDS [10:22] mvo, lol, nice try [10:23] I can volunteer people in my team though ;-) [10:23] was worth a try ;) [10:23] you should join the desktop team [10:23] I would volunteer you :p [10:25] * didrocks +1 on that :-) [10:26] seb128: E_NOT_MY_TEAM ;) [10:33] seb128: ok, so I'm targetting all https://edge.launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/2010-09-09 bugs to maverick, right? (even the design ones?) [10:33] didrocks, no, only the ones you think that are blockers [10:34] seb128: ok, that's the high ones so, doing that now [10:34] didrocks, can you assign the ubuntu task to canonical-dx-team? [10:34] the maverick task [10:34] seb128: sure, will do [10:34] so we are sure they are tracked and dx is accounted for those [10:34] didrocks, thanks! [10:34] * seb128 hugs didrocks [10:34] thanks ;) [10:35] * didrocks hugs seb128 back [10:35] great work on this list ;-) [10:35] so at least we know where we stand [10:37] right, we know where the important issues are for us! :) [10:48] seb128: ok, done and they appears on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.10. Doesn't seem you need to ack anything, right? === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [10:50] didrocks, seems correct [10:50] I'm a bit surprised [10:50] I though that nomination was restricted to drivers [10:50] yeah, that's weird [10:52] the only one I didn't set is bug #620011 [10:52] Launchpad bug 620011 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "[master] software-center crashed with AttributeError in _parse_and_or_not_tag() (affects: 11) (dups: 10) (heat: 90)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620011 [10:52] I don't know if it needed only USC fix or if something in unity-place-applications is really needed. Will ask kamstrup on Monday [10:55] not sure, yeah better to check with kamstrup [11:01] re [11:02] lot of noise on the nominations review list [11:02] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+nominations [11:02] mvo, bug #165181 [11:02] Launchpad bug 165181 in synaptic (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Order by "Supported" Column Slow (affects: 12) (dups: 5) (heat: 82)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165181 [11:02] is that fixed now? [11:03] it's fix commited for over a month it seems [11:10] I think it is, let me check [11:10] seb128: hm, stll very slow [11:11] seb128: I check it [11:11] mvo, thanks [11:11] but I want the gdebi fix in return ;) [11:11] the 91_keep_fds [11:13] do you have a bug about that? [11:13] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/620297 [11:14] Launchpad bug 620297 in vte (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "gdebi-gtk fails with ''dpkg: unable to read filedescriptor flags...." (affects: 28) (dups: 2) (heat: 123)" [Medium,Confirmed] [11:14] robert broke it [11:15] he will fix it next week don't worry [11:15] I will make sure of that ;-) [11:17] seb128, can you please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/maverick/couchdb-glib/0_6_96_release/+merge/34206 ? the package has now been accepted [11:17] ok [11:17] seb128, and, btw, you merged the tomboy branch before the package has been accepted, is that ok? [11:17] yes, since that was uploaded [11:18] was it? [11:19] yes, seems it was [11:19] I didn't get any mail (or I missed it) [11:19] ok then, sorry :) [11:20] seb128, well, no, it's still in the queue -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54777247/tomboy_1.3.2-1ubuntu3_source.changes [11:28] seb128, also please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/maverick/evolution-couchdb/0_5_0_release/+merge/34208 <- package just accepted [11:32] Haven't we gone back to the FF and UIF? [11:33] Why are packages still in the queue? [11:33] bilalakhtar, they seem to being accepted as we speak [11:33] okay [11:47] Anyone here familiar with gnome-language-selector ? [11:50] jpds, try mvo [11:50] mvo, sorry ;-) [11:50] jpds, or just ask there on the channel rather [11:51] rodrigo_, well if something is in the queue it has been uploaded [11:51] rodrigo_, it makes sense to merge when it's in the queue otherwise somebody will come and work on the vcs and upload a drop your changes [11:51] seb128, ah, ok === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:28] rodrigo_: why did you upload that broken fix to tomboy? [12:28] Laney, why is it broken? [12:28] I told you why it was broken. [12:28] Laney, and I told you why it's not [12:28] You need to fix the library or patch to provide the dependency [12:29] Laney, libsyncdaemon is DllImport'ed [12:29] it's almost never right to add binary dependencies like that [12:29] yeah I know [12:29] so, debhelpers don't get it in shlibs-depends [12:29] that's not correct [12:29] dh_clideps is perfectly able to resolve shlib dependencies [12:31] Laney, and why is it not getting them? [12:31] as I said in the bug, perhaps your dllmap is wrong (is there one? is one required?) [12:31] Perhaps the shlibs provided by syncdaemon aren't right. [12:33] dllmap? you mean the DllImport statement? [12:33] http://www.mono-project.com/Config_DllMap [12:34] bryceh: for bug #627531, the tag "edgers" means the issue is in xorg-edgers ppa or the fix is in xorg-edgers ppa? :) (here, the report is that the new version fixes the issue, we set the bug this way to tell people experiencing the issue that there is a workaround available as I guess new version won't get in maverick) [12:34] Launchpad bug 627531 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Bad performance with Nvidia 6600 GT and nvidia-current (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627531 [13:10] hum, amd64 builders are in trouble because of libglib2.0-bin (don't have a amd64 pbuilder, can't test) [13:12] didrocks, notabug [13:12] you just need to wait for the amd64 glib to be published [13:12] then retry those [13:13] seb128: the -dev and -bin binary aren't published in the same round? I'm puzzled [13:13] libglib2.0-dev : Depends: libglib2.0-bin (= 2.25.14-1ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed [13:14] It doesn't say it's not available. [13:14] just that it's not going to be installed. [13:15] try "sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-bin" and see what it wants to do. Probably remove some other package or something. [13:15] didrocks, it depends on the data [13:15] which is arch all and built on i386 [13:16] not sure why, that's a bug [13:16] seb128: oh right, didn't thought about that case [13:16] that explains so :) [13:16] thanks [13:16] soren: I normally do that in that case, but I don't have any amd64 there and i386 is fine [13:17] didrocks, I will fix it in the next upload [13:17] so, ok, got it now, should be due to arch all and arch amd64 [13:17] didrocks: Oh, I did't realise it was something you pasted froma build log. I thought it was from your own box. [13:17] amd64 is so last century ... use arm ! [13:17] seb128: thanks :) [13:17] ogra: arm is next century. This century is still amd64. Calm down :) [13:17] ogra: at least, you have the time to see the build log in real time, right? ;) [13:18] soren, lol [13:18] ogra, where can I get hardware for it? [13:18] didrocks, not with the pandaboard :) [13:18] ;-) [13:18] seb128, want HW ? i can arrange that ! [13:18] "pandaboard", what a nice name :) [13:18] ogra, would that mean signing for extra work on it? [13:18] the case for it is called bamboo :) [13:18] ;-) [13:18] seb128: be careful, then, you will have all the "wrong alignment" FTBFS to fix ;) [13:19] seb128, nah, i'd just bug you daily about FTBFs .... *g* [13:19] ;-) [13:20] but really, the panda is some serious HW, dual core 1GHz and 1G RAM ... with a fats USB disk you smart out ATOM [13:20] *fast [13:20] they're supposed to be on the market with the maverick release [13:21] sounds great ;) [13:22] i hope we can get one for everybody at canonical ... or at least one for every team [13:24] (and with a price of $120 it should also be achievable for the community) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [13:48] ogra, what's the panda? [13:48] kenvandine, the upcoming OMAP4 board from TI [13:48] successor of the beagleboard [13:48] cool [13:49] * kenvandine really wants a netbook with that kind of specs [13:49] i guess they will happen at some point [13:49] someday, i guess [13:49] first the board needs to come out :) === Sarvatt|gone is now known as Sarvatt [14:14] can we still update parts of GNOME to new upstream release if the one we hasn't been updated to 2.31.x even once at this point? [14:14] kklimonda, which one? [14:15] seb128: hamster-applet [14:15] so nothing important I think [14:15] you can update [14:15] we did decide to not update some [14:15] but that one is not in that case [14:16] ok, thanks [14:25] good morning all [14:27]