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joshhuntwhere can i find the pkg containing vmlinux for my system?01:00
joshhunti'm running lucid01:03
DanaGhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole04:02
DanaGSay, anyone know if netconsole can handle ipv6 addresses?04:03
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* apw yawns08:42
apwjjohansen, that sounds like upstart is dieing08:43
jjohansenapw: maybe08:43
apwinit=/bin/sh work ?08:44
jjohansenhrmm, give me a sec I am dealing with a 2 year old08:45
smbcooloney, Heya, you know whether Eric will be around again today?08:45
apwjoshhunt, you looking for the debugging symbols?  if so they are in the ddebs on ddeb.ubuntu.com08:45
smbapw, (if they are not deleted...)08:45
apwsmb, indeed, seems to be more than the usual 3 in there (when its gone wrong) so perhaps they have survived for a change08:46
smb\o/08:46
RAOFapw: Scott has suggested that bug #615549 might be something similar to what you've been wrestling re efifb/vesafb.08:47
ubot2Launchpad bug 615549 in gdm (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Dell Studio XPS 13 no video (affects: 2) (heat: 176)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61554908:47
RAOF(The basic problem there being that X is getting started before the kernel modules have finished initialising)08:50
apwRAOF, not sure it does sound similar, the other bug was a problem with ati cards wherein radeon kms driver doesn't cope with the card being partially initialised when it starts up08:52
apwthere is no race involved as far as i know, its always broken08:52
RAOFOk.08:53
RAOFWe should probably go with the safe and slower fix of waiting for udev to finish.08:54
apwthe problem is that presumably has to affect every card08:57
apwevery install, every machine08:57
RAOFYes.08:57
apwyou are going to get much resistance to that08:57
apwsmb, like your sru cartoon08:59
jjohansenapw: so the best I can figure it wasn't upstart or at least not entirely upstart.  There were times I could get the machine to a login prompt, but all input was dead.  Now matter what I did input was dead after leaving the initramrd.08:59
smbapw, Thanks, Steve thought it was funny, too. :)08:59
jjohansenI could type within the initramfs console but not after, no recovery etc08:59
apwthats very very odd09:00
jjohansenIn the end I called it a failed upgrade, reinstalled and everything worked09:00
smbapw, A pity that its not my drawings. :-O09:00
apw!09:00
jjohansenyeah09:00
apwsmb, you could give up your job and go be a cartoonist if they were :)09:00
smbhehe, yeah. But no, need to stick to the kernels... ;)09:00
apwi see leann and manjo and you in that cartoon09:01
smbapw, How would you possibly think of him? ;-P09:01
apwlooks a bit like him, honest09:02
smbshhh09:02
ckingcartoon?09:04
smbcking, I send it to you too09:04
smbcking, Btw, you have no voice today ;-)09:06
xamparthttp://pastebin.com/xU95dkQd10:12
* jjohansen waves good night10:14
apwxampart, ?10:15
xampartapw: what should i do with this? thought this would be right place to ask information10:17
xampartnoticed this after reboot10:17
apwthat error is nothing to worry about, it says that your BIOS is broken, but that the kernel has papered over it ...10:18
xampartok10:19
apwxampart, but as bots send us links etc with porn or spam in, we don't just look at links people paste till we know they are people10:19
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apwbah, hung again ... i am suspicious that lucid X and maverick kernel are not compatible ... hangy wise10:55
lagapw: Do you have sudo on orange? 11:14
apwcking, about>12:09
ckingcking, yep12:10
ckingwassup?12:11
apwmumble ?12:12
ckinghrm, lemme restart it12:12
apwcking,  you about ?13:06
ogasawaralovely, just spent the last 4hrs in the ER13:09
apwogasawara, ! you ok ?13:11
ogasawaraapw: yah, Wayne sliced his hand open requiring 6 stitches13:12
apwouch!  but at least it wasn't you13:12
diwicouch13:12
smbogasawara, That is quite bad. One could say that might be training for the future... but thats evil. /me goes to self-punish himself13:14
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amitkapw: is the UK on holiday?13:24
apwamitk, noone told me if it is ...13:24
apwwho you lost ?13:24
smbamitk, YOu mean the US13:24
smbmaybe?13:24
amitksmb: no, UK. I'm not seeing too much chatter on the company channel13:24
apwas far as i know its normal day here13:25
ograi think its lab. day 13:25
ograevery US citizen has to do science ! 13:25
apwin the US monday i believe13:25
amitklol13:25
ograoh, right, its monday13:26
apwthe UK no, but its hot :)13:26
* ogra just knew its a long weekend because of it13:26
ograso i had a 50/50 chance to be wrong ... lucky me :P13:26
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JFocking, looking over that bug now14:12
JFocking, it looks to be set invalid yes?14:15
JFoyeah pitti set it invalid in Apr 0914:15
ckingJFo, I think it's valid for some users, it's essentially a tunable14:15
JFok14:16
JFoapw, have a moment to look over bug 26433614:16
ubot2Launchpad bug 264336 in postgresql-common (Ubuntu Jaunty) (and 7 other projects) "pgsql fails to start due to shared buffer setting greater than kernel allows (affects: 23) (dups: 14) (heat: 105)" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26433614:16
JFoif not, no prob. I'll set it up for our call 14:17
ckingit's certainly not urgent 14:17
JFono problem. Thanks for bringing it to my attention cking :)14:18
ckingit was my fail for letting it slip off my radar14:19
apwjfo ack14:21
JFothanks apw 14:21
JFocking, happens to all of us14:21
JFome worst of all14:21
diwicJFo, what's up with the bug triage day, wasn't that in a week from now? 14:35
JFodiwic, yes14:36
JFoI am setting up logistics on it14:36
JFodiwic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Summit/Maverick14:36
diwicJFo, looking good, so Brad will run it?14:37
JFowell, I put Brads name since I wasn't sure who else would be there14:37
JFobut you can co-run if you like14:37
JFoI can add you14:37
diwicJFo, I guess we could ask him when he's back from vacation14:38
JFook, but I need to get stuff finalized today if possible14:39
JFoI can add you as a presenter later too if needed14:39
* apw has to pop to collect a parcel14:49
ericm|ubuntusmb, ping15:23
smbericm|ubuntu, yup15:23
ericm|ubuntusmb, it's really weird - cannot find drivers/usb/misc/test.c in my mvl-dove branch?15:23
ericm|ubuntuso just wondering where the conflict comes from?15:24
ericm|ubuntusmb, which tip are you rebasing onto?15:24
smbericm|ubuntu, wasnt that usbtest.c? I need to check. I rebase to Ubuntu-2.6.32-25.3415:25
smberr .4315:25
ericm|ubuntusmb, ah sorry - let me check again15:25
ericm|ubuntusmb, indeed, sorry15:25
smbericm|ubuntu, I probably should have written in the mail15:26
ericm|ubuntusmb, looks like they changed too much in commit: dove: first rebase over 2.6.29.115:27
smbYou mean they might only have wanted to comment out the first occurance?15:28
ericm|ubuntusmb, 1 min15:29
smbsure no worries15:29
* smb makes some tea15:29
* ericm|ubuntu hands smb some beer15:30
ericm|ubuntusmb, I agree with you the removal of the 2nd simple_free_urb() is incorrect and will cause leak, so +1 for your solution15:33
smbericm|ubuntu, Not yet that late. Ok, so I would just go ahead and do the fix on the rebase15:35
ericm|ubuntusmb, thanks15:35
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JFoogasawara, :-P17:03
ogasawaraJFo: heh, see our release team meeting chatter :)17:04
JFoyep :)17:04
ogasawaraJFo: was just about to ping you about it17:04
JFono sweat17:04
JFoalready looking17:04
ogasawaraJFo: we basically just need to go through and decline the nominations if they don't look realistic17:04
JFok17:04
ogasawaraie not something that's gonna get resolved for Maverick17:05
JFowe really need a sort by package capability on stuff like this17:06
JFothat approve decline radio button thing would be most useful then17:06
ogasawaraJFo: I'll start at the end of that list and try to help out declining nominations17:09
JFook17:09
JFoI will start at the beginning17:09
ogasawaraJFo: I'm posting something like the following prior to declining..."Declining the Maverick specific nomination for now and leaving this open against the actively developed Ubuntu kernel (which happens to be Maverick at this time).  Will re-open the nomination should a fix be narrowed down which we can confirm specifically resolves this issue in Maverick."17:12
JFosounds good to me17:13
kamallag: ping17:14
lagHello kamal 17:15
kamallag: hiya -- I'd like to test your sd-card-fix kernel, but ~ljones/lp477106-lucid only offers the 32-bit kernel -- how 'bout a 64-bit?17:15
lagkamal: I don't have a build system for 64bit setup yet17:17
kamalah17:17
lagkamal: I will build one, but not for a while17:18
ograjust cat two 32 bit kernels together :P17:18
lagI can provide you the source?17:18
kamalwould it be possible for you to post the patch?17:18
kamalhaha yes, the source please -- I'll just build it myself.17:19
kamalogra: hahahaha -- ok, I'll do that!17:19
lagkamal: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=lag/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef4c31990cbe996dbd5ac1530491549e295f39e9;hp=5470af5fd104192214b496a2736fd26200f4650d17:22
kamallag: awesome - thanks!17:22
JFoogasawara, I am finding that most of the ones I see are being actively worked17:23
JFoeither in the bug or another like it17:23
ogasawaraJFo: heh, the one's I'm seeing are new and just blindlly nominated17:24
lagkamal: No problem17:24
ogasawaraJFo: if they're being actively worked just leave them alone17:24
ogasawaraJFo: maybe start looking at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+nominations?start=7517:26
ogasawaraJFo: I'm at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+nominations?start=22517:26
JFok17:27
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JFoogasawara, smb does this looks like something we are likely to consider? bug 42492717:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 424927 in linux (Ubuntu) "include CK patch set (BFS) (affects: 24) (heat: 192)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42492717:35
JFomy guess is no17:35
ogasawaraJFo: If it's not upstream, I'm gonna say no17:36
JFoheh17:36
smbThat would be my feeling too17:36
JFok17:36
JFothat was actually what I was basing my assumption on17:36
ogasawaraJFo: I think I've seen requests for that before (or maybe it was that bug) and I said no to the patch set and to get it upstream17:38
JFomore than likely17:39
JFothat was a really long bug17:39
JFowhat the heck is kernel-package(ubuntu)?17:43
ogasawarano idea17:43
ogasawaraJFo: looks to be in Universe for Maverick?17:44
ogasawaraJFo: I'd say skip it17:44
JFoshrug*17:45
JFojust sounded odd17:45
ogasawaraJFo: "kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages." - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package17:45
JFosounds like something that could easily cause confusion17:45
ogasawaraJFo: I'm moving onto https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+nominations?start=15017:55
JFook17:55
JFowe are almost done then17:56
JFoI'm back to looking over 1-7518:02
JFok, I'm done for the most part18:20
JFothere are likely ones that I left alone that should have been closed18:20
JFobut I think they are in progress18:20
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ogasawaraJFo: cool, thanks for helping18:22
JFono sweat18:23
JFoit is something that I should be watching anyway18:23
* smb goes eow18:24
kamallag: I confirm that your lp477106 git tree does fix the SD card suspend hang.  I'll post my comment and url to the 64-bit debs in the bug.  Thanks!19:02
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* JFo crosses his fingers19:28
JFolooks like it worked19:29
JFoI figured out what was causing my e-mail issues ogasawara... but I'm not gonna tell you what it was. I don't want you to know the depths of dumb I went to. :)19:29
ogasawaraJFo: heh, I'm scared to even ask then.19:38
JFoyeah, I R Dumb19:39
achiangJFo: do share19:41
JFooh I couldn't '_19:42
JForather :)19:43
JFomayhap next time I see you achiang I can relate it in the hushed tones of a one-time story.19:43
achiangJFo: heh, ok19:43
JFo:)19:43
ogasawaraJFo: "documentation -- re-organize kernel team wiki pages" isn't that work item done?  or did you have more re-org you wanted to tackle19:49
JFothere is much more to do, but for the purposes of that item I think we are done... unless apw disagrees19:50
ogasawaraJFo: heh, I think he was leaving it to you to make the final call19:50
JFoah19:50
JFothen for that item I'd say we are complete19:51
JFowe can do some more the next cycle 19:51
JFoas I am sure we will need to flesh what we have out some more19:51
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* jjohansen -> lunch19:52
ogasawaraJFo: There was one more I thought might be done - "Jeremy to document the patch review process for kernel" (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-launchpad-upstream-improvements-patches)19:59
JFoah, that has to do with the +patches view in launchpad19:59
ogasawaraJFo: oh, ok20:00
JFowe don't have anything for that as I wasn't using it20:00
JFoso I still have to do that :-(20:00
ogasawaraJFo: ok, I was thinking it was wiki related, so nm.20:00
JFoyeah, I wish20:00
JFoI had actually forgotten about that one. Thank you for reminding me20:00
JFoI should be able to write some thing up on it20:01
ogasawaraI'm just browsing through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone%20ubuntu-10.10 and seeing what we might be able to close20:01
JFocool20:05
JFod'oh! it's 3pm and I haven't eaten all day :-/20:05
JFohow is it that a fat kid like me forget to eat?!20:05
JFoso sad20:05
manjoogasawara, freeze on the 16th ? 20:11
ogasawaramanjo: yep, will send a reminder next week20:11
manjoso after that is SRU process I assume 20:12
ogasawaramanjo: yep20:15
ogasawaramanjo: wanted to ask you about your last work item ... "documentation: consolidate and maintian kernel build instructions into one location, possibly within the kernel source itself "20:18
ogasawaramanjo: did you put together a quick guide to building a kernel or something?20:18
ogasawaramanjo: ie I can mark it DONE20:18
manjoogasawara, yep it should be int he new wiki pages 20:18
manjoalthough the SRU process doc needs more work20:19
manjoI am assuming the SRU team will take a look at what is available and make those changes20:19
manjoogasawara, so yes the build part is done 20:19
ogasawaramanjo: I think bjf had put together a detailed doc about their processes, but will check with him next week20:20
manjoogasawara, sounds good 20:21
manjoogasawara, instead of doing a separate doc they should integrate it with the scheme that apw and I talked about at the sprint ie having action and doing "includes" of those actions. 20:22
manjowe had a session about it and they can follow what I have done as example 20:22
ogasawaramanjo: I want to say he did?  but am not positive20:23
manjook I have not had the chance to look at more distro side of thing lately with all the OEM & HEW stuff going on 20:23
manjoHWE20:23
JFook, I am headed out to eat before I fall over. Will be on later.20:27
eraogasawara, i think julian has solved the ndiswrapper issue once and for all. it will require a debian sync once he uploads a new package and a 5 line kernel patch.20:33
era*3 line20:33
eraalso, i'm investigating why flags like CONFIG_CFG80211_DEFAULT_PS are crippling iwlwifi performance.20:36
ogasawaraera: cool, do you have a reference to the kernel patch?20:36
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erayes. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/613796/comments/2820:36
ubot2Launchpad bug 613796 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ndiswrapper can scan for SSIDs but cannot connect on any kernel newer than 2.6.34-5.14 (affects: 5) (dups: 2) (heat: 46)" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:36
ogasawaraera: cool, I'll get it on my todo list20:40
erathank you.20:40
* ogasawara lunch21:01
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