[15:56] <seb128> hey
[15:57] <robbiew> hey
[15:57] <jdstrand> o/
[15:58]  * pgraner 0/
[15:59] <ScottK> \o
[15:59]  * ara waves
[16:00]  * skaet waves
[16:00] <rsajdok> o/
[16:00]  * robbiew needs a minute :)
[16:01] <skaet> robbiew,  you want me to do the formalities, or will you?
[16:02] <robbiew> well...if you ask
[16:02] <robbiew> heh
[16:02] <robbiew> I will
[16:02] <robbiew> ;)
[16:02] <robbiew> #startmeeting
[16:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is robbiew.
[16:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:03] <iainfarrell> Bonjour y'all :)
[16:03] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Bugs and Features Summary
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Bugs and Features Summary
[16:03] <robbiew> howdy iainfarrell
[16:03] <robbiew> heh
[16:03] <robbiew>    * Milestoned bugs
[16:03] <robbiew>     * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.milestone=27462
[16:03] <robbiew>    * Release-targeted bugs
[16:03] <robbiew>     * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs
[16:03] <robbiew>    * Known regressions
[16:03] <robbiew>     * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.tag=regression-potential
[16:03] <robbiew>    * Unresolved Bugs with Patches
[16:03] <robbiew>     * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+patches
[16:03] <robbiew>    * Nominated bugs
[16:03] <robbiew>     * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+nominations
[16:04] <robbiew> I haven't heard of any OMG bugs...yet
[16:05] <rickspencer3> robbiew, is that at all related to the retracers being down?
[16:05] <ScottK> That helps.
[16:05] <robbiew> indeed
[16:05] <ScottK> We'd get to release faster if we turned off the bug tracker too.
[16:05] <ara> rickspencer3, mmm, one of the bugs that I filed got retraced, so I guess that's fixed now
[16:06] <seb128> ara, not it's not, we got 3 bugs retracer today manually
[16:06] <rickspencer3> right
[16:06] <ara> ah, ok
[16:06] <seb128> but I'm debugging still with the launchpad guys
[16:06] <robbiew> seb128: ack..thanks for the update
[16:06] <robbiew> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
[16:06] <robbiew> shows a lot of ubuntuone-client bugs
[16:07] <rickspencer3> anyone here from the U1 team?
[16:07] <joshuahoover> here :)
[16:07] <robbiew> hey joshuahoover :)
[16:07] <joshuahoover> hi!
[16:07] <ogra> feely very crashy on arm atm
[16:07] <joshuahoover> so i need to review/clean up some of those new bugs
[16:07] <robbiew> okay
[16:08] <robbiew> do you all have someone with the "power" to target bugs?
[16:08] <rickspencer3> joshuahoover, when does desktopcouch syncing get turned back on?
[16:08] <joshuahoover> we have a list of bugs that we're working on and i can update everyone on the most important ones that are impacting u1 functionality in maverick beta
[16:08] <rickspencer3> that may bring a lot of new bug reports as well
[16:09] <joshuahoover> rickspencer3: we started to open desktopcouch replication late yesterday...we're currently working on opening it further and troubleshooting issues with couchio as we find them
[16:09] <robbiew> joshuahoover: the stage is all yours :)
[16:09] <joshuahoover> alright...here we go :)
[16:09] <joshuahoover> * bug #628118 is affecting all u1 sso dependent functionality, which means pretty much everything u1 related in maverick right now...this is a server-side issue that we are rolling out the fix to edge today (we thought we had it fixed on tuesday but found more problems)...once that's out there, we'll verify it fixes the issue and then rollout to production on tuesday, 2010-09-07
[16:09] <joshuahoover> * bug #629095 prevents desktopcouch from pairing up w/ the u1 servers for replication...we have mandel working on this fix
[16:10] <joshuahoover> * bug #624616 was released just hours ago, it was preventing the music store plugin from loading
[16:10] <joshuahoover> * bug #620640 is released but we need to make some changes to the way we packaged it based on feedback in the comments...this bug crashed tomboy when selecting u1 sync in the prefs
[16:11] <joshuahoover> the rest of our list of high/critical bugs (for us) can be found on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:12] <joshuahoover> that's the update i have on u1 bugs...any questions? i'd then like to address a ui freeze exception once we get through any questions
[16:13] <robbiew> joshuahoover: no questions...address away!
[16:13] <joshuahoover> we have a ui freeze exception i'd like to get the OK to move forward with...bug #627440 which is about removing 2 fields from the u1 sso screen so that it fits on netbook/smaller displays properly...i've notified docs and translation lists & haven't heard anything back...we'd like to get this in on our next package release, which is wed. 2010-09-08
[16:13]  * ScottK looks
[16:14] <ScottK> robbiew: I'll approve it.
[16:15] <robbiew> thank you sir
[16:15] <joshuahoover> ScottK: great! thanks!
[16:15] <joshuahoover> that is all i have right now
[16:15] <robbiew> thanks joshua
[16:16] <robbiew> I figure it's best to just go around the teams...then call this bad boy over if nothing else pops up
[16:16] <robbiew> [TOPIC] QA update
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA update
[16:16] <ara> hello!
[16:16] <robbiew> hi :)
[16:16] <ara> As we don't want this meeting to be too long, I will quickly get to the point.
[16:16] <ara> As usual, you can find fader's latest HW testing report at:
[16:16] <ScottK> joshuahoover: Done.
[16:16] <ara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:16] <ara> the summary he reports:
[16:16] <ara> Laptops:
[16:17] <ara>     Passed:   45 (96%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested:  2 ( 4%)
[16:17] <ara> Servers:
[16:17] <ara>     Passed:   60 (88%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested:  8 (12%)
[16:17] <ara> Netbooks:
[16:17] <ara>     Passed:   14 (88%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested:  2 (12%)
[16:17] <ara> Desktops:
[16:17] <ara>     Passed:   11 (79%)    Failed:    0 ( 0%)    Untested:  3 (21%)
[16:17] <ara> and, quoting fader again:
[16:17] <ara> "I see that bug 625309 is Fix Released, so I will go through the machines
[16:17] <ara> that were previously affected by it that are untested and see if they
[16:17] <ara> are having a different issue or if we need to reopen the bug.
[16:17] <ara> We have completed a round of manual tests on the hardware in the lab in
[16:17] <ara> Montreal.  Overall this looked very good with few bugs found.  Hankyone
[16:17] <ara> is retesting these with the beta image to see if they are still valid
[16:17] <ara> and will file bugs if so.  Huge thanks to Hankyone and cyphermox for
[16:17] <ara> testing a ton of laptops! :) "
[16:18] <robbiew> heh...Hankyone..what a nick
[16:18] <ara> Any questions on HW testing?
[16:18] <ara> :D
[16:18] <ara> OK, going on...
[16:18] <fader_> robbiew: He's awesome :)
[16:18] <ara> And, as usual, and after every milestone testing cycle, we can have a look to the testing report at:
[16:18] <ara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/MaverickBetaTestReport
[16:18] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/MaverickBetaTestReport
[16:19] <ara> It is not worth it dumping it here, as the Wiki format is much better, and you get direct links to the bug reports.
[16:19] <robbiew> yep...thanks for sparing us ;)
[16:19] <ara> We didn't reach 100% image coverage :-(
[16:19] <ara> From the 52 images that we have, there was one uncovered:
[16:19] <ara> # Ubuntu Server EC2 EBS (Asia-Pacific) amd64
[16:19] <ara> Maybe the server team can explain later on what happened.
[16:20] <ara> Also, the netboot testcase for ARM Dove didn't get any coverage. Maybe the Mobile team does not need any testcase, anymore? Is it something else?
[16:20] <ara> not any testcase, of course, *that* testcase
[16:20] <ogra> we dont really care for netboot, its just a nice to have
[16:20] <ara> ogra, then we might move it to "optional testcases"
[16:20] <ogra> but requires significant knowledge to set up etc on the user side
[16:20] <robbiew> ara: +1
[16:21] <ogra> ara, sounds perfect, i didnt know that exists
[16:21] <ara> [ACTION] ara to move netboot arm dove testcase to "optional"
[16:21] <ttx> smoser: comment on lack of testing of  Ubuntu Server EC2 EBS (Asia-Pacific) amd64 ?
[16:21] <ttx> I think there are a few bandwidth issues with the AP zones, but he should confirm
[16:22] <robbiew> ara: is that it?
[16:22] <ara> OK, while we wait for smoser...
[16:22] <ara> no, I am a bit chatty, sorry
[16:22] <ara> I can stop now, if you want
[16:22] <ttx> he can answer asynchronously :)
[16:22] <robbiew> no..go on :)
[16:23] <ara> Just some bugs that needs to be prioritize:
[16:23] <ara> OEM does not install oem-config when there is not network connection: bug 628911 (possible duplicates: bug 628290, bug 628681)
[16:23] <ara> (or at least milestoned)
[16:23] <ara> bug 628864 - (Change of notation)
[16:23] <robbiew> looks like ev will be busy :P
[16:23] <ogra> we should just all switch to preinstalled images :)
[16:24] <ara> :D
[16:24] <ogra> no partitioning issues and ome-config is always there :)
[16:24] <cjwatson> those are all very high up our lilst
[16:24] <ogra> *oem
[16:24] <cjwatson> *list
[16:24] <ara> cjwatson, great! thanks a lot!
[16:24] <cjwatson> 628864 is not just a change of notation - it's tied in with other partitioner interaction bugs in kubuntu
[16:24] <cjwatson> but yes it shouldn't be that hard
[16:24] <ara> cjwatson, thanks for the clarification
[16:25] <ScottK> cjwatson: Are the partioner issues ~understood?
[16:25] <smoser> i'm here.
[16:25] <cjwatson> ScottK: I think I understand what's likely to be going on, at least
[16:25] <ara> Because we don't want to find very critical errors in the installer while testing RC, I have subscribed to some of the bugs described here. Once they get fixed, I will start a pairwise testing cycle for Ubiquity, some time in between Beta and RC, to see if everything works. I will be announcing this in ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-qa when ready, if you guys agree
[16:25] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks.
[16:26] <cjwatson> ScottK: it stinks of a change in the choice identifiers in partman not being handled by the ubiquity kde frontend
[16:26] <skaet> ara,  sounds good.
[16:26] <cjwatson> ara: thanks, that's a good plan
[16:27] <ara> That's all from me
[16:27] <robbiew> thanks ara!
[16:27] <ara> robbiew, anytime
[16:27] <ttx> smoser: see quetsion above
[16:27] <robbiew> [ACTION] robbiew to clone ara...a few times :P
[16:27] <MootBot> ACTION received:  robbiew to clone ara...a few times :P
 smoser: comment on lack of testing of  Ubuntu Server EC2 EBS (Asia-Pacific) amd64 ?
[16:28] <smoser> yeah. so i tried for 2 days or so, but was unable to get sufficient number of instances started in the ap-southeast-1 region
[16:28] <smoser> from time to time, ec2 hits the ends of their hardware, and creation of instances ends in "Insufficient Capacity".
[16:29] <smoser> it is quite a pain, but there is really nothing I can do about it.
[16:29] <smoser> (my tests could be written better to not expect to run all instances at once, they should be reworked for that, but i haven't had time).
[16:30] <skaet> smoser, can they be reworked before rc?
[16:30] <smoser> i'd rather not.
[16:30] <robbiew> heh...yeah
[16:30] <robbiew> I think they have higher priority items
[16:31] <robbiew> may need to be a post Maverick work item
[16:31] <smoser> but it is something that should be done. i think only twice has it bitten me.
[16:31] <smoser> usually over time of a couple days i can get sufficient resources to do it.
[16:31] <robbiew> smoser: okay...thnx for the update
[16:32] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Security update
[16:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security update
[16:32] <jdstrand> o/
[16:32] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:32] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:32] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:32] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
[16:32] <jdstrand> so, really the only beta bug was LP: #623586
[16:32] <jdstrand> bug #623586
[16:33] <robbiew> cool
[16:33] <jdstrand> this required a change to the apparmor abstractions due to gs moving away from defoma
[16:33] <jdstrand> I fixed that this morning
[16:33] <jdstrand> other than that, I don't know of any pressing beta-related security team bugs
[16:33] <robbiew> nice...any questions for Security?
[16:34] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Kernel status
[16:34] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel status
[16:34] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:34] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:34] <ogasawara> I haven't heard of any kitten killers for the beta kernel but we'll keep tracking incoming issues through the weekend.  All our Beta bugs addresed in last week's meeting should be resolved.  We've also updated our specs and looking to be on track for the 10.10 release.
[16:34] <ogasawara> Not much else exciting to report really.
[16:34] <ogra> note that there will be a bunch of possible changes for omap ahead
[16:34] <ogra> (which i only heard about today in a call)
[16:34] <robbiew> when is the *real* kernel freeze date...like when you all start building the packages
[16:35] <robbiew> ogasawara: ^
[16:35] <ogasawara> ogasawara: in theory I'm going to push for the date noted in the release schedule (Sept 16).
[16:35] <ogasawara> wow, robbiew ^^
[16:35] <robbiew> heh
[16:36] <ogasawara> robbiew: after that, we're going to enforce our SRU policy (but be a critical bug fix or stable update)
[16:36] <robbiew> sounds good to me
[16:37] <robbiew> ogasawara: I wasn't trying to be a smart ass ;)  I thought you all stopped accepting changes a few days before the date
[16:37] <robbiew> to allow time to build them all
[16:38] <robbiew> any questions for Kernel?
[16:38] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Foundations
[16:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations
[16:38] <robbiew> besides the installer bugs...anything else cjwatson?
[16:39] <cjwatson> hi, I was going to list some hot bugs, and then ara beat me to it
[16:39] <robbiew> heh
[16:39] <ara> cjwatson, you can comment the wubi upgrades, ;-)
[16:39] <cjwatson> a few other things came up during beta testing such as broken wubi upgrades; there's a patch in maverick now for it (modulo build times), bug 617715
[16:39] <cjwatson> ara: damnit
[16:39] <ogra> lol
[16:40] <cjwatson> I was honestly just typing that
[16:40] <cjwatson> anyway, I'd appreciate retesting of upgrades from lucid-wubi to maverick
[16:40] <ScottK> FYI, Bug #628930 will likely require a (somewhat planned) mesa update to fix and it's pretty essential for the Kubuntu netbook experience.
[16:40] <cjwatson> has anyone like Chris Rogers looked at that?
[16:40] <rickspencer3> ScottK, Mesa 7.9 will fix that?
[16:40] <cjwatson> mesa is kind of in the X bin in my had
[16:40] <cjwatson> head
[16:41] <rickspencer3> cjwatson, Chris very much wants to move to Mesa 7.9
[16:41] <ScottK> rickspencer3: It helps a lot (tested today).
[16:41] <rickspencer3> he is debugging some issues iwth it though
[16:41] <ScottK> X is foundations, right?
[16:41] <rickspencer3> (or sounds like maybe already did)
[16:41] <rickspencer3> ScottK, X is desktop
[16:41] <cjwatson> I believe there are still a few grub-won't-boot-on-some-machine bugs, and whether we'll be able to deal with thaose, will see
[16:41] <ScottK> Oh.  Sorry.  Wrong section.  I take it back.
[16:42] <cjwatson> sorry for poorly-formed report today, am a bit fried from being emergency holographic release engineer
[16:42] <cjwatson> um, we could use help looking at the couple of targeted plymouth bugs
[16:42] <ogra> three cheers for cjwatson everyone, we wouldnt have beta without him !
[16:42] <cjwatson> since Keybuk's been almost entirely on other things this cycle
[16:42] <cjwatson> robbiew: ^- maybe something we should assign somebody on the foundations team to have a look at
[16:43]  * ogra is always surprised that one human can do all that work 
[16:43] <robbiew> cjwatson: ack
[16:44] <robbiew> maybe we'll just pull slangasek back for a month :P
[16:44] <robbiew> cjwatson: anything else?
[16:45] <cjwatson> that's all folks
[16:45] <robbiew> thnx!
[16:45] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Server status
[16:45] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server status
[16:45] <ttx> o/
[16:45] <ttx> robbiew: so you caught me off-guard with meeting cancellations
[16:46] <robbiew> no worries
[16:46] <ttx> our release status page is half-updated :)
[16:46] <robbiew> not looking for anything "official"
[16:46] <ttx> I few highlights...
[16:46] <robbiew> just things we should be aware of
[16:46] <ttx> During iso testing we uncovered eucalyptus issues running on simple topologies
[16:46] <ttx> it now seems to work better on complex topologies than on simple :)
[16:47] <robbiew> heh
[16:47]  * robbiew bites his tongue ;)
[16:47] <ttx> so we have a load of RC-bugs covering that
[16:47] <ttx> Still workable though
[16:47] <robbiew> I also noticed bug 628400
[16:48] <ttx> right, so we have also quite a few bugs that are not directly in our realm
[16:48] <robbiew> it's highly improbable that this is plymouth...but we'll look at it from the mdadm side
[16:48] <cjwatson> we'll figure something out for you about the grub timeout issue too
[16:48] <ttx> http://tinyurl.com/39ucrpc
[16:48] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://tinyurl.com/39ucrpc
[16:48] <cjwatson> can we not have shortened links here?
[16:49] <ttx> that's the list of bugs tagged server-mro, which should autobuild the list in the report of "bugs that we care about, in other teams"
[16:49] <cjwatson> mind you that is a heck of a link.  you can trim out lots of the fields though ...
[16:49] <ttx> cjwatson: sorry for the laziness
[16:49] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=server-mro
[16:49] <ttx> cjwatson: heh
[16:49] <robbiew> heh
[16:50] <robbiew> ttx: I think I'm actually okay with only 12 there
[16:50] <ttx> so, mostly needing foundations help:
[16:50] <ttx> Bug 563916
[16:50] <robbiew> yeah yeah
[16:50] <ttx> Bug 628400
[16:50] <ttx> Bug 621951
[16:50] <ttx> and on kernel's plate:
[16:50] <ttx> Bug 621175
[16:50] <cjwatson> 621951 needs coordinated uploads of lvm2 and parted to switch over to the new naming scheme
[16:50] <cjwatson> fortunately grub2 is already prepared
[16:50] <ttx> Bug 613083
[16:50] <ttx> Bug 606373
[16:51] <cjwatson> (621951 is probably basically a merge or cherry-pick from Debian)
[16:51] <cjwatson> I'll keep the server-mro list open and make sure we do our end of things, anyway
[16:52] <ttx> cjwatson: thanks !
[16:52] <ogasawara> ttx: 621175 I have a theory about, I want to see the 2.6.35-20.29 that's currently building finish to confirm
[16:52] <robbiew> ttx: anything else?
[16:52] <ttx> robbiew: no :)
[16:52] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Desktop update
[16:52] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop update
[16:53] <Riddell> I can do Kubuntu :)
[16:53]  * ScottK steps behind Riddell.
[16:53] <Riddell>  - http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3  16 milestoned bugs, the most notable ones are installer bugs already discussed
[16:53] <Riddell>  - KDE SC 4.5.1 uploaded and built except on ARM
[16:53] <Riddell>  - KDE SC 4.5.2 due October 5th, so I don't except it to be in final
[16:53] <Riddell>  - kubuntu mobile image successfully made for beta, but the mobile workspace itself didn't actually work, so some fixes to be done there
[16:53] <Riddell>  - lucid and maverick upgrade notifications need testing still
[16:53] <Riddell>  - thanks to ev and cjwatson for lots of awesomeness during beta
[16:53] <cjwatson> the kubuntu mobile image only actually got published on the very day of beta
[16:54] <cjwatson> so it's impressive if it boots, in my book
[16:54] <robbiew> heh
[16:54] <ogra> Riddell, any idea why everything failed on ARM ?
[16:54] <Riddell> ogra: what failed?
[16:55] <ogra> we were down to only 4 FTBFS packages in main (and only koffice among them for KDE) but with todays queue flush it seems that all of KDE fails again
[16:55] <Riddell> probably some builds needed retried for the 4.5.1 upload today, that's not unusual, they'll get done
[16:56] <ogra> http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ armel turned into a big red column suddenly
[16:56] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ armel turned into a big red column suddenly
[16:56] <ScottK> ogra: archive skew.
[16:56]  * ogra pokes the bot 
[16:56] <ogra> ah, k
[16:56] <Riddell> I think they're just waiting on kdebindings which always takes ages
[16:56] <ogra> its on the failed list
[16:56] <ScottK> Actually we're not even that far.
[16:56] <ogra> (again)
[16:56] <ScottK> pimlibs still building.
[16:57] <ScottK> (last I looked).
[16:57] <ScottK> In any case nothing concerning yet.
[16:57] <ogra> k
[16:57] <Riddell> just needs patience :)
[16:57]  * ogra puts the ftbfs filter glasses on then :)
[16:58] <robbiew> anything else for Kubuntu?  /me wants to keep the run-over to a minimum ;)
[16:58] <Riddell> I'm done
[16:58] <ScottK> Now: FYI, Bug #628930 will likely require a (somewhat planned) mesa update to fix and it's pretty essential for the Kubuntu netbook experience.
[16:58] <seb128> hey
[16:58] <robbiew> ScottK: ack...noted, thnx
[16:58] <robbiew> seb128: all yours
[16:58] <seb128> sorry I'm trying to work with launchpad guys to get the retracers back
[16:59] <seb128> I've not a lot prepared
[16:59] <seb128> desktop seems mostly in shape
[16:59] <seb128> UNE still needs some work
[16:59] <seb128> I think dbarth will cover most of unity issues next
[16:59] <robbiew> yep...but no surprise
[16:59] <seb128> I've been trying to clean https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+nominations
[16:59] <seb128> I denied some 200 nominations since yesterday
[16:59] <robbiew> wow..thanks!
[16:59] <robbiew> that list is a beast
[16:59] <seb128> I think lot of people use the nominations as "affect this version"
[17:00] <skaet> seb128,  cool.
[17:00] <robbiew> agree
[17:00] <seb128> we should perhaps restrict who can suggest a nomination
[17:00] <seb128> but help from other teams to clean would be welcome
[17:00] <seb128> there is lot of linux tasks there
[17:00] <seb128> I've been rejecting all the needs-packaging or bugs open for years without activity
[17:00] <seb128> but each team should be able to decide better on its bugs for non obvious ones
[17:00] <ogasawara> seb128: I or JFo can go through the linux tasks
[17:01] <seb128> ogasawara, that would be appreciated, thanks!
[17:01] <robbiew> ogasawara: thnx...I vote for JFo :P
[17:01] <ara> can I nominate one?
[17:01]  * ogasawara too :)
[17:01] <seb128> btw GNOME 2.32 will be monday in 10 days
[17:01] <seb128> ie just before the freeze
[17:01] <seb128> just for information ;-)
[17:01] <robbiew> ack
[17:01] <seb128> I think that's it from me
[17:02] <ara> Please, desktop team, fix gwibber
[17:02] <ara> I miss gwibber. I need to procrastinate a little bit. And I need real time updates on where the merkaat is.
[17:02] <robbiew> ara: heh..they are WELL aware of the gwibber issues
[17:02] <robbiew> trust me ;)
[17:02] <seb128> ara, if you have bugs please give me the numbers
[17:02] <seb128> I will target those
[17:02] <ara> bug 628686
[17:02] <ara> bug 620139
[17:02] <seb128> it' difficult right now to build a team list of issues, not sure how other teams do that
[17:03] <seb128> I've opted to clean https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+nominations
[17:03] <seb128> then I will try to set of a json query of maverick tasks in the desktop set
[17:03] <robbiew> seb128: should we target bug 569273
[17:03] <seb128> with some tweaks to add firefox, xorg, etc or watch those as well
[17:03] <seb128> bug #569273
[17:03] <seb128> thanks ubottu
[17:04] <robbiew> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/569273
[17:04] <robbiew> or is that DX
[17:04] <seb128> it seems triaged as it should
[17:04] <seb128> it's assigned to karl who is contracting to do dx work
[17:04] <davidbarth> hmm, don't think so
[17:04] <robbiew> seb128: as for how other teams build a team list...I think we all have our own magic unfortunately...but I think skaet is going to try and help us :D
[17:04] <seb128> will check with them if he's still working on it
[17:04] <davidbarth> ah right, this one
[17:05] <robbiew> target is maverick-alpha-2 :/
[17:05] <davidbarth> it's a note that we can leak mem a bit here, but the leak is not really significant
[17:05] <robbiew> sorry milestone
[17:05] <seb128> skaet, I'm interested to work with you on that
[17:05] <skaet> seb128,  me too with you.
[17:05] <seb128> skaet, great ;-)
[17:05] <robbiew> thnx seb128...moving on to DX
[17:05] <robbiew> [TOPIC] DX update
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  DX update
[17:05] <davidbarth> uhuh, DX
[17:05] <davidbarth> hi
[17:05] <robbiew> davidbarth: anything urgent to report
[17:06] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Desktop Experience
[17:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Experience
[17:06] <robbiew> geez
[17:06] <ogra> heh, you're fast :)
[17:06] <davidbarth> we have freeze exception requests pending, but on the desktop front things are getting weel
[17:06] <davidbarth> well
[17:06] <davidbarth> ie appmenu got most of the fixes we wanted
[17:06] <davidbarth> we're still working on unity issues: perf., quicklist inconsistencies,
[17:07] <davidbarth> 14 critical or high prio bugs in scope for unity, but i feel we can handle that next week, considering the bug closing rate of past weeks
[17:07] <davidbarth> so to answer the question, no, i think that the bug fixing part is under control now
[17:08] <robbiew> heh...you've just jinxed yourself ;)
[17:08] <davidbarth> the massive mem leak of unity got a fix today, to everyone's relief: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/604777 in particular
[17:08] <robbiew> *\o/*
[17:09] <robbiew> any questions for Desktop Experience?
[17:09] <robbiew> thnx davidbarth
[17:09] <robbiew> [TOPIC] ARM
[17:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM
[17:09] <robbiew> last but not least ;)
[17:09] <robbiew> ogra?
[17:09] <ogra> we found bugs during beta testing :)
[17:10] <ogra> thats it ... for the past ...
[17:10] <ogra> for the future ...
[17:10] <ogra> we just recieved new HW rigth at beta date ...
[17:10] <ogra> which is incompatible with the old stuff
[17:10] <robbiew> heh
[17:10] <ogra> so we have kernel and bootloader updates pending that have to happen now
[17:10] <robbiew> sounds like fun times :/
[17:11] <ogra> kernel went in already, but its untested and we dont know what possible issues it will have
[17:11] <ogra> thats what you get when you pick to work in the arm team :)
[17:11] <robbiew> the few...the proud..the brave ;)
[17:11] <robbiew> thnx ogra
[17:11] <ogra> anyway, there might be some intrusive changes but they will only affect arm
[17:11] <ogra> thats all
[17:12] <robbiew> any questions for ARM?
[17:12] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Any Other Business?
[17:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any Other Business?
[17:12] <robbiew> including MOTU status ;)
[17:12] <skaet> and Linaro ;)
[17:12] <robbiew> nah..they have their own meeitng ;)
[17:12] <robbiew> unless they broke us :PO
[17:13] <robbiew> once...
[17:13] <skaet> heh
[17:13] <robbiew> twice....
[17:13] <robbiew> #endmeeting
[17:13] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:13.
[17:13] <robbiew> ..and that's that ;)
[17:13] <robbiew> thnx all!
[17:13] <ara> cheers!
[17:13] <robbiew> try to enjoy your weekend....the long one for the US ;)
[17:14] <robbiew> and remember...the bugs will be there when you get back
[17:14] <skaet> thanks robbiew
[17:15] <seb128> thanks robbiew, skaet
[17:15] <ogra> thanks
[17:15] <Kjenka> Anyone to send me an invite for Gmail ?, it now says i need one in my country
[17:16] <robbiew> skaet: I'll update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-09-03 as well as the /Agenda redirect ;)
[17:17] <skaet> robbiew,  ok - I'll edit it to reflect the content from today's meeting.
[17:17] <skaet> so we've got the tracking.
[17:18] <robbiew> skaet: sounds like a plan...will ping you when I've saved my changes
[17:18] <skaet> cool.
[23:36] <Guest18528> How do