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ScottKlfaraone: In the long run you'll be happier if you set up a seed.02:55
ScottKYou can set it up yourself, it doesn't have to be the same place as ubuntu seeds.02:55
micahgcould I get a please lucid bug task on bug 62580104:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 625801 in gnome-web-photo (Ubuntu) "gnome-web-photo missing required libxul.so" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62580104:15
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micahgis it normal to not have an rpath in a lib, but have it in a binary in teh same source?04:51
* micahg wonders where everyone is tonight04:52
RAOFA binary in the same source rings alarm bells - you need to ensure that binary is SONAME versioned so libfoo1 and libfoo2 are parallel installable.04:52
micahgRAOF: it's gjs :) in Debian, the lib has the rpath removed, but gjs-console has an rpath04:53
* micahg might be confused as to what rpath is :)04:53
micahgis it not the path to the lib that it's linked against?04:53
RAOFNo, I think Debian has just forgotten to strip the rpath from gjs-console04:54
micahgRAOF: ah, so if I do it, I'll be ok?04:54
RAOFAs long as you're handling the libmozjs debacle in a different way, yes.04:54
micahgRAOF: I'm deleting the rpath like Debian and adding a wrapper around gnome-shell04:55
micahgand gjs-console I guess04:55
micahgyay :)04:55
micahgI can at least upstream the rpath removal from gjs-console :)05:00
micahgRAOF: do you have time to add an SRU task for me?05:00
RAOFFor gjs?05:01
micahgRAOF: no, gnome-web-photo05:01
RAOF'Tis in universe, so I can accept your nomination for Lucid.05:02
micahgbug 62580205:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 625802 in DHIS "Dataset Report - Based on compulsary dataelement doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62580205:02
micahgbug 62580105:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 625801 in gnome-web-photo (Ubuntu) "gnome-web-photo missing required libxul.so" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62580105:02
micahgRAOF: I still get gjs-console linked against libmozjs05:09
* micahg tries a test build in maverick chroot05:09
RAOFmicahg: I thought I'd fixed that with a combination of the requires.private patch + libtool patch + -Wl,--as-needed05:10
micahgnope, unless I broke it when I merged :)05:11
micahgit's in preinstall, so I could have the wrong path to strip05:11
RAOFWait.  Do you mean it's still _linking_ against libmozjs, or it's still got an _rpath_ of /usr/lib/xulrunner-abombinable?05:12
micahglibmozjs.so => /usr/lib/xulrunner....05:12
micahgwhereas libgjs is: libmozjs.so => not found05:13
RAOFIt's got the pair; an rpath _and_ an unnecessary linkage to libmozjs!05:16
micahgRAOF: oh, should I stop them from linking against libmozjs also?  Is there a guide?05:17
RAOFmicahg: So, one of the patches I had to gjs was a patch to the gjs.pc file, moving libmozjs to Requires.private.05:21
micahgRAOF: yes, let me make sure I still have that05:22
micahgstill there05:22
RAOFFrom memory that should also have removed the linkage.  Or maybe not, and it needs the -Wl,--as-needed LD_FLAGS + the libtool patch to make it work.05:22
micahgauto_configure is overriden to include that05:23
RAOFAnd is there a libtool patch still in there?05:23
micahgyes, in the debian dir05:24
RAOF(--as-needed only works when the linker ordering is correct, and libtool gets it wrong)05:24
RAOFIt's also possible that gjs-console actually uses symbols from libmozjs directly, I guess.05:25
micahgk, but why wouldn't the rpath get deleted05:25
RAOFSorry :)05:27
micahgRAOF: do I need to worry if I add a wrapper around it?05:27
RAOFYes, because the wrapper won't work, I think.05:28
RAOFBecause gjs-console will still be looking in /usr/lib/whatever-I-was-linked-against05:28
micahgRAOF: ugh, ok05:28
* micahg isn't sure what to do, I wanted to get this uploaded tonight05:29
micahgsiretart: the couchdb bug appears fixed in lucid, please clarify the issue in lucid05:43
micahgRAOF: oh, so it's linking, but there's no rpath05:55
micahgthere never was one :-/05:57
micahgwell, idk how to test teh consile06:08
RAOFYou run gjs-console, and then type javascript06:09
RAOFIt's a repl06:09
RAOFFrom memory :)06:09
micahgoh, so if the path is gone, it says not found in ldd06:09
micahgdoes what I found mean it'll work?06:10
micahgI tried launching it by moving mozjs06:10
micahgand it launched06:10
micahgoh, I forgot my other test06:10
micahgRAOF: I think it's all good06:11
micahgwith the wrapper it works06:11
micahgRAOF: do you think I need an FFe for these changes?06:13
RAOFI don't think so.06:14
RAOF* Note: Not a release team member :)06:14
micahgRAOF: k, I didn't think so either, but I just wanted a second opinion06:14
siretartmicahg: hm. indeed, the logrotate.d/couchdb looks fine in the package. it seems that didn't get updated for me on upgrades06:26
siretartI've now fixed it locally, most probably its also fixed for new installations06:26
siretartnot sure what went wrong during the upgrade for me06:27
micahgsiretart: idk, well, I wonder if anyone else will comment that it's still broke in Lucid, I guess if they do, I'll take another look06:31
micahgsiretart: it could also be the order the pre/post scripts are run in06:32
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dholbachgood morning07:11
siretartmorning daniel!07:18
ajmitchmorning dholbach, siretart07:37
dholbachhi ajmitch07:37
dholbachhey siretart07:37
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directhexDktrKranz, you're awake!09:05
DktrKranzdirecthex: yawn09:07
directhexDktrKranz, we've been given a deadline of... uh... tonight to get the latest banshee in shape for possible default-in-UNE status. and i've got one build-dep for it (so far) sat in Debian NEW for experimental09:09
DktrKranzwhich one?09:11
directhexgio-sharp. it has a new binary package, due to going from stable to unstable lib status in this release09:12
DktrKranzdinstall is running, so no chance to do it right now, but in 20 minutes... ;)09:13
directhexDktrKranz, can i also add gkeyfile-sharp to that request? it's a teeny tiny binding package, made by the skilled hands of hyperair and Laney09:54
DktrKranzdoing now09:57
DktrKranzdirecthex: I can't find gkeyfile-sharp10:00
Laneyneeds to be processed10:00
directhexgive it 3 minutes!10:01
DktrKranzah, yeah, it's still in incoming10:01
directhexSuccessfully uploaded packages.10:01
DktrKranz(that will be the fastest out-of-NEW ever!)10:02
Laneyone source and one more binary NEW after these...10:03
directhexbloody upstreams10:03
DktrKranzLaney: directhex: I couldn't find GKeyFile/Tests/src/GKeyfileTests.cs in tarball (maybe it was there in a older version?), but accepted10:30
directhexawesome. thanks, luca!10:31
ZombieHey is anyone investigating the graphical corruption with Intel drivers when Kernel mode setting is enabled?10:33
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Zombiei A xserver-xorg-video-intel What does the A mean here?12:03
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Korbithi everyone13:00
iulianHi there.13:00
Korbitjust opened a needs-packaging bug, changed status to "in progress" and assigned it to me13:00
Korbiti really want to create my first ubuntu package13:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 629459 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] LMMS 0.4.8" [Undecided,In progress]13:02
iulianKorbit: I believe lmms is already packaged.13:10
Korbitnot version 0.4.813:10
Korbiti'm using lucid and i only has 0.4.513:10
iulianKorbit: Ah, misunderstood you then.  I thought you want to package it from scratch.13:11
iulianKorbit: There are some wiki pages explaining how to update a package.13:12
Korbiti thought i needed to package it from scratch13:12
Korbitgreat, i'll look into that13:12
micahgDebian has 0.4.713:12
Korbitshould i update from that debian package then?13:14
iulianOh, then it'd be great to update it in Debian and then sync/merge.13:14
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Korbitiulian, i should get the debian source package for 0.4.7 and update it to 0.4.8 right?13:17
iulianKorbit: Right.13:20
Korbiti'll try to do that =)13:20
directhexwho is maintainer in debian? some folks don't welcome random updates13:20
KorbitPatrick Winnertz i suppose13:21
Korbiti've found this: http://packages.debian.org/sid/sound/lmms13:21
micahgthere's no watch file, a wishlist update bug might be enough to get it updated13:21
Korbitok, i'll just install from source then13:22
Korbiti'll delete the bug i opened13:24
Korbitcan't delete so just removed me from the "assigned to"13:26
Korbiti'll try to package lmms anyway just for me, just to learn how it's done13:34
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micahgKorbit: the maintainer might not do it in time, so it could still be needed, was just a suggestion...13:37
Korbitok, i'll work on it13:37
Korbitat least, i'll try to, because i've never done anything like this13:38
flask_hi guys. I am trying to package a python package that has po files in them for localization. i want to use debhelper. what is the recommended way to handle the po files?13:49
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lfaraoneScottK: hm. what's required to do so? I looked on the wiki and couldn't find anything.14:07
lfaraoneScottK: short term is there anything wrong with thwat we're doing?14:08
ScottKlfaraone: If you look in a standard meta source you'll see in (IIRC) update.cfg you tell it where to find the seeds.14:10
ScottKIn the short run, no, it's just that manually maintaned per-arch lists are very hard to get consistently right.14:10
lfaraoneScottK: fair enough. fortunately the additions are arch-all.14:11
lfaraoneScottK: it seems to be ubuntu-archive controlled.14:12
lfaraoneIf a Sugar-related ubuntu-native package is maintained in a bzr branch, should it be owned by ~ubuntu-sugar-uploaders or by ~ubuntu-dev?14:18
lfaraone(I think u-s-u should imply membership in ubuntu-dev)14:18
kklimonda /b 1314:42
kklimondado you have some example of using waf with cdbs?14:51
kklimondahmm.. maybe midori..14:51
leonelhello: merges from debian to a package in universe  still open ??15:15
AnAntleonel: depends, if it is just a bug fix (ie. no new features), then it is fine. Otherwise you will need a freeze exception15:17
leonelAnAnt: it's  cherokee  maverick has 1.0.4 wich has a nasty ssl bug  and debian unstable has already 1.0.8 with the bug fixed15:18
AnAntno features introduced between 1.0.4 to 1.0.8 ?15:19
leonelmost bug fixes15:20
RoAkSoAxleonel: that'd be a good candidate to merge then, specially if it is a security fix (if that';s the case with ssl)15:23
AnAntleonel, RoAkSoAx: or rather sync, I don't see any Ubuntu diff for it15:23
leonelRoAkSoAx: it's not a security fix it's a bug fix  the browser hangs when using  ssl15:23
leonelRoAkSoAx: this with < 1.0.815:24
leonelso ..  what should I to to get 1.0.8 in  Maveric ??  merge ? sync ?15:24
RoAkSoAxleonel: as I said above, sounds like a good candidate to sync/merge.15:24
AnAntleonel: sync15:25
leonelreading  sync procedures ..15:25
leonelthanks ..15:25
AnAntleonel: just run: requestsync cherokee maverick15:25
AnAntyou'll need the -s switch15:25
AnAntand maybe -e too15:25
leonelinstalling ubuntu-dev-tools ..15:26
AnAnt-e is for FFe, I'm still not sure if you need it or not15:26
kklimondabah, anyone familiar with cdbs? can I include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/gnome.mk and prevent it from calling some automatic configure rule?15:30
ScottKlfaraone: Probably ubuntu-dev.15:30
ScottKlfaraone: See seed_base in update.cfg for (for example) kubuntu-meta.15:32
ScottKYou can host the seeds wherever you want.15:32
AnAntthe seeds should be hosted in  soil15:34
AnAnthappy planting...15:35
leonelAnAnt: so just with requestsync  will do the magic ??15:42
AnAntleonel: yes, it will file a proper sync request15:43
leonelgreat !15:44
AnAntjust use the -s switch to subscribe ubuntu-sponsors15:44
AnAntand I am not sure about FFe15:44
lucidfoxhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Untitled-Page31.png <-- this mockup looks like it was done in an application15:58
lucidfoxwhat software is that?15:58
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oojah_lucidfox: I think it's pencil: http://pencil.evolus.vn/en-US/Home.aspx16:06
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geserlucidfox: could be Balsamiq16:17
lucidfoxoojah_> yes, seems it's Pencil16:21
lucidfoxAnyone know what Ubuntu design folks use for UI prototypes on the wiki?16:21
vishlucidfox:  Balsamiq16:21
vishlucidfox: sometimes on the wiki , what you see is mpt's own handy work ;)16:22
lucidfoxWell, I normally draw by hand, or use Glade16:23
kklimondaglade isn't flexible enough imo16:34
kklimondaI often end up fighting with it rather then actually do mockup ;)16:34
kklimondajames_w`: hey, I'm trying to prepare an update for lucid and can't get bzr merge-upstream to work - this is what I get: http://pastebin.com/rQC5w2vG16:43
james_w`kklimonda: that's a bug which is fixed in trunk16:44
james_w`I should get that uploaded16:44
james_w`you can use a checkout of trunk in the meantime if you want to get past that error16:44
james_w`there's no workaround that I know of unfortunately.16:44
kklimondatrunk of bzr-builddeb, right?16:45
Korbiti'm having trouble here16:46
Korbiti just upgraded to maverick16:46
Korbiti was trying to create a package for lmms 0.4.8 from a debian package 0.4.7 following daniel holbach's youtube video on upgrading packages16:46
kklimondajames_w`: thanks, it helped16:46
Korbiti got this error when pbuilding16:47
Korbit[......]Remove the following packages:16:47
Korbit1)     pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy16:47
Korbitdebian/control doesn't list that dependency16:47
Korbithow can i solve this?16:47
Korbiti'm trying upgrading the ubuntu 0.4.5 package version and it breaks while applying the diff from 0.4.5 :(16:58
Korbitcan't solve this either16:58
Korbiti tried debuild anyway17:05
Korbitbreaks with this error:17:05
Korbitdebian/rules:3: /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make: No such file or directory17:05
c_kornsudo apt-get install quilt17:05
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: ping?17:05
Korbiti wonder why the debian package doesn't require this17:06
c_kornwhat is the ubuntu 0.4.5 package anyway ?17:06
Korbiti'm talking about lmms 0.4.517:06
Korbitubuntu has lmms 0.4.5 and i need 0.4.817:06
Korbitso i'm trying to create my first .deb from the source of 0.4.517:07
SEJeff_workRoAkSoAx, pong17:07
Korbitfollowing the instructions of the MOTU videos17:07
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: are you still working a lot with Keepalived?17:07
SEJeff_workRoAkSoAx, Ha! How did you know that?17:07
SEJeff_workWell I've got about 60-65 boxes with keepalived in prod17:07
SEJeff_workBut it "just works TM" for us.17:07
Korbitdebuild: fatal error at line 1337:17:08
Korbiti guess this is a leet fatal error!17:08
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: just PM'ed how I knew :).17:08
Ash-FoxHello, I am faced with a complicated situation. I want to make it as easy as possible for people to install my repository on their system and simualtaniously dowload and install a specific package. The best idea I have come up with so far is a .deb package that installs the repository to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then the repository it self offers an update for the package which identical17:08
Ash-Foxexcept for a 'require' for another package which is the actual application in question.17:08
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: have you ever experienced this, or any thoughts??: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/keepalived/+bug/61971217:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 619712 in Unity "Unity causing massive memory leak when hovering over the quicklists" [Critical,In progress]17:08
Ash-FoxI hope that didn't break up.17:08
Ash-FoxThe problem with that though, is that obviously the user won't get prompted immediately to 'update' to install the application.17:09
SEJeff_workRoAkSoAx, We don't use Ubuntu on servers17:10
SEJeff_workAlso, we run: keepalived-1.1.1517:10
SEJeff_workAnd since it works perfectly for our dns/ldap servers, we haven't bothered upgrading distros17:10
Korbiti guess i can't upgrade the package from 0.4.5 to 0.4.817:10
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: well for what I understood that's not only ubuntu related issue, given that bug reporter says that exists on 1.1.17 and 1.2.0, which is not in Ubuntu. But Anyways, thanks :)17:11
Korbiti'll just forget about this and compile from source17:11
SEJeff_workRoAkSoAx, Perhaps it is the 2 interfaces thing?17:12
SEJeff_workI'd try with 1 interface / machine to isolate it17:12
Korbitits not easy for someone to contribute to ubuntu17:12
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: yes, that's what i'm also thinking. I'm setting up a testing environment to see if I can reproduce that with only one interface17:12
SEJeff_workRoAkSoAx, However, keepalived has an irc channel17:13
SEJeff_workPlease make sure to report this upstream17:13
SEJeff_workDo you work @canonical now?17:13
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: this has already been reported upstream but there hasn't been any answer. That's why I just posted new message saying if someone was able to look into this.17:14
SEJeff_workWell how was it reported upstream?17:14
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: Nope I don't but I kinda take care of clustering packages / loadbalancing :)17:14
SEJeff_workAlso try #keepalived and their mailinglist17:14
SEJeff_workThey do releases, but slowly17:14
SEJeff_workSeems reasonable RoAkSoAx17:14
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: they do not have a bug tracking system, do they? I don't seem to find one17:16
SEJeff_workRoAkSoAx, Looks like you're right17:17
SEJeff_workDid you follow up on their devel mailinglist? http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/keepalived-devel17:17
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: yeah, they reported the issue there, but there hasn't been an answer. I just emailed to the list to see if someone looked into it or not.17:18
SEJeff_workTry to break the ubuntu sucks with upstream myth17:19
RoAkSoAxhaha will do :)17:20
RoAkSoAxwe already did that with HA Clustering - Pacemaker/Heartbeat/etc etc17:20
lucidfox...okay, what the heck17:37
lucidfoxGlade has opened a blank rectangle instead of a popup menu, and now it's whole UI is stuck17:37
lucidfoxwhich is bloody frustrating17:38
lucidfoxhad to restart and all my changes to that file are lost, grrrrrr17:38
cosmehi, some revu admin/mod could archive this package?18:11
DktrKranzlucidfox: you could want to ask removals of valknut armel binaries, so it can enter testing :)18:49
lucidfoxDktrKranz> that's libdc0... and... I'd prefer to find out why it fails that TTH test :S18:50
lucidfoxbut I don't have access to an armel machine where the build fails, and it succeeds in armel pbuilder for me18:51
DktrKranzI could test it on a porterbox, and eventually upload them18:51
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SpamapSmicahg: bump.. bug 557024 has 12 people affected now.. ;)19:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 557024 in mongodb (Ubuntu) "mongo / mongod as packaged can't load libmozjs.so" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55702419:09
* ScottK waves to ajmitch and wonders if he was affected by wobbliness in his part of the world?19:10
SpamapSScottK: I don't know if we can call 7.anything "wobbliness" .. thats like calling the surface of the sun "warm". ;)19:11
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micahgSpamapS: yes, we'll deal with it next week, chrisccoulson told me something was wrong which I'll try to fix (idr what it is ATM)19:14
SpamapSmicahg: the rpath isn't needed if we do the wrapper.19:14
micahgSpamapS: right19:14
chrisccoulsonSpamapS, the only issue with patching the build system to drop the rpath (which is a trivial change) is that the test-suite then fails19:15
chrisccoulsoni tried it a couple of weeks ago19:15
micahgchrisccoulson: that was it :)19:15
chrisccoulsonso you need to run the test-suite with LD_LIBRARY_PATH19:15
micahgSpamapS: if you want to update the merge with those changes, I"ll review over the weekend19:16
SpamapSsounds straight forward enough19:18
RoAkSoAxSEJeff_work: I entered the same race condition with only two servers with configs: Srv1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/487938/ Srv2: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/487939/. What might be wrong on them? Srv1 log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/487941/ srv2 log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/487942/19:20
DktrKranzlucidfox: building on a porterbox now. In case of success, should I upload it to allow both packages entering testing?19:38
lucidfoxDktrKranz> siretart tried before and failed19:39
lucidfoxit fails the test on porter19:39
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directhexlucidfox, which porterbox? there are two armel porterboxes now20:04
garfieldairlinesmeow !20:48
garfieldairlinesI'm an admin of the french wikipedia and I'd want to have a MOTU for an interview on the sister project : wikinews20:48
* hyperair wonders who's french and a MOTU20:48
* garfieldairlines is french but an english MOTU is fine too20:49
fabrice_spgarfieldairlines, French MOTU here, if you are still interested20:50
ajmitchScottK: it woke me up, but didn't cause damage here (about 300km from where it did hit) :)20:53
ScottKajmitch: Glad to hear it's OK there.20:54
ajmitchlifeless is in the affected city though20:54
ajmitchso he probably got woken up as well :)20:54
* ScottK looks over to see if lifeless is OK then?20:54
ajmitchpower is out in some parts of christchurch, and he might have better things to do than irc on a saturday morning :)20:57
lifelessI'm fine21:00
lifelesscheck twitter/fb :P21:00
ajmitchhouse isn't a bit shaken?21:03
lifelessajmitch: haven't done a full check yet21:28
Awsoonnhi all, bug 614067 - the package appears to just need a recompile for 10.10. How can this be acomplished?21:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 614067 in lincity-ng (Ubuntu) "lincity-ng links against uninstallable libphysfs-1.0.so.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61406721:29
lifelessbut so far only found one thermos fallen off of a table21:29
AwsoonnI think a motu can do this?21:29
lifelessajmitch: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4094979/Huge-earthquake-rocks-Christchurch21:30
lifelessajmitch: surprised you weren't woken; there were dunedinites tweeting21:31
lifelessgman was woken in wellington21:31
ScottKAwsoonn: I'll take a look at it.21:39
ajmitchlifeless: I was woken21:39
ajmitchgot up & checked the geonet site to see where it might have been21:40
AwsoonnScottK: thanks!21:40
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Rhondaiulian: Thanks. :)21:43
Rhondaiulian: I'm not sure wether I should had sent bug 629793 and bug 629797 also with the requestsync -e switch, the help said it is only needed for non-bugfix updates, is that right?21:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 629793 in openarena-data (Ubuntu) "Sync openarena-data 0.8.5-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62979321:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 629797 in openarena (Ubuntu) "Sync openarena 0.8.5-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62979721:44
iulianRhonda: I have never used requestsync with the -e param. :)21:46
ScottKAwsoonn: You are on Maverick, right?21:47
AwsoonnScottK: yup~21:48
iulianRhonda: Both bugs are OK.  They don't need ubuntu-release.21:49
ScottKAwsoonn: It installed OK here, but it does look a bit odd.  I'll try and investigate later tonight.21:50
ScottKI'm also on i386, so that may have a different result21:52

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