[00:00] <hiku> undecim: yeah the ide controller is there, but no drive is detected
[00:00] <undecim> hiku: yup... I suspect is it either the drive or the mobo... There is almost 0 chance that it's anything else
[00:01] <hiku> undecim: yeah... live and learn =)
[00:01] <quidnunc> Is anyone here an expert in LVM that can hold my hand a bit while I try to add a partition to my LVM volgroup?
[00:01] <undecim> hiku: heh... it's a Dell... No wonder XD
[00:02] <undecim> hiku: Still odd that GRUB comes up though...
[00:02] <hiku> undecim: true. I have no clue why
[00:03] <clayd> how do i see all users on a system?
[00:03] <undecim> hiku: Though if it was Grub that finally made it kick the bucket...
[00:04] <hiku> undecim: I'm thinking the drive spins up, but the interface is having issues
[00:04] <voronado> clayd: a list of all users, or a list of connected users?
[00:04] <clayd> all users please
[00:04] <undecim> hiku: That could very well be it.
[00:05] <voronado> you can either look at the /etc/passwd or you can ls the user directory.  either would suffice
[00:06] <hiku> voronado: ls in /home won't tell you how many people are logged in. use "who"
[00:07] <clayd> can someone help me interpit something.  http://www.sugarcrm.com/wiki/index.php?title=Required_file_system_permissions_on_Linux
[00:07] <jrib> clayd: ask your actual question
[00:07] <clayd> I am trying to understand what the "apache user" is
[00:08] <clayd> i am trying to set file permission and I think i am running into an issue were the files are not owned by the correct user
[00:08] <clayd> sorry for the poor question.
[00:08] <undecim> clayd: the apache user is www-data
[00:08] <undecim> clayd: same with the group
[00:08] <hiku> clayd: ok.. the web server runs as apache...so chown apache "file/dir"
[00:09] <Skjoedt> undecim: Greatness. Its back online. Dont know if that was it but I changed the interface settings in bios and now I can see it. But it might also just have needed a powerdown to reset
[00:09] <hiku> undecim: I always change mine.. =(
[00:09] <clayd> this is were i got confused.  is t ww-data or apache
[00:09] <clayd> sorry www-data or apache
[00:09] <hiku> clayd: I believe undecim is right, the default is www-data
[00:09] <plitter> how do i log out from the gui using the terminal?
[00:09] <jrib> clayd: it is "www-data" by default on ubuntu
[00:10] <undecim> Skjoedt: Sounds great. I would still be weary of the drive for a few days though. Get it backed up, etc, and try changing the settings back to see if that was the actual cause of your problems
[00:10] <lidbjork> I was transferring files from one computer to another (Slackware to ubuntu) via a network cable (tcp/ip, ssh), and it only got to about 6 MB/s, which I thought was very slow. Both NIC:s are supporting 100 Mbps. Any ideas on how to speed it up?
[00:10] <jrib> plitter: gnome-session-save --help
[00:10] <Galaxor> My keyboard has browser-back and browser-forward buttons.  I hate them.  How do I disable them?
[00:10] <plitter> jrib: thanks, i'll check it out
[00:10] <undecim> lidbjork: CPU limits for the encrypting with SSH
[00:10] <undecim> lidbjork: ... is my best guess
[00:11] <Skjoedt> undecim: Good idea. Now I just need to recover grub
[00:11] <undecim> Skjoedt: What's wrong with GRUB? Did it have something to do with the BIOS settings?
[00:12] <lidbjork> undecim: Oh, gosh, I would never have guessed.
[00:12] <undecim> lidbjork: It might be more efficient to use tar/netcat, or some other file transfer that doesn't use encryption if this is a computer-to-computer connection
[00:12] <undecim> lidbjork: FTP maybe
[00:12] <Skjoedt> undecim: I think when I deleted some partitions, the numbers of the other partitions has changed, so grub doesnt direct to the same as before.
[00:13] <lidbjork> undecim: Yes, exactly what I was thinking about. It is indeed a simple local 2-computer lan with no internet, so the encryption is unneeded.
[00:13] <undecim> lidbjork: Also, you will only get up to 12 MB/s... network speeds are measured in megaBITS, whereas download speeds are often seen in megaBYTES.
[00:14] <lidbjork> undecim: Yes, I know, though I tend to forget. :-/
[00:14] <Hopsa> lidbjork: I have seen a few times where the switch or hub got burnt out after some years.
[00:14] <undecim> Skjoedt: Ahh, okay... Need help with that?
[00:14] <Skjoedt> undecim: I'm looking for the grub config, to see what it directs to
[00:15] <undecim> Skjoedt: Though just deleting a partition shouldn't have affected Grub unless that partition had grub config or boot files on it
[00:15] <undecim> Skjoedt: The numbers on the partitions should still be the same
[00:15] <lidbjork> I'm thinking about moving the harddrive physically from one computer to the other and copy through the IDE cable. How fast would that be (in Mb or MB) ?
[00:16] <lidbjork> (PATA, that is)
[00:16] <hiku> lidbjork: as fast as your drives are.. like 500-800MB/s maybe
[00:16] <undecim> lidbjork: Depends on the HDD... Can't be slower than the network
[00:16] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know why I cannot play any dvds do I need to install some encryption package for me to able to play them ?
[00:17] <lidbjork> hiku: Alright, that's like 50 times faster than the network. :)
[00:17] <Skjoedt> undecim: It may had the boot sector on it. I deleted the old ubuntu distro (40gb partition) and linux swap (had two of them, old one and new one). But left the 200mb ext4 which was flagged as boot
[00:17] <hiku> !codecs | spanglesontoast
[00:17] <undecim> hiku, lidbjork: I doubt it would be THAT fast...
[00:17] <Skjoedt> undecim: (as in I didn't delete the 200mb partition).
[00:17] <acidjazz> [16:45] < hiku> acidjazz: that's it and also try sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:17] <acidjazz> i do both and it doesnt install any new packages but my updated motd says there are 25 available
[00:18] <undecim> Skjoedt: Okay, let me get a few things straight....
[00:18] <spanglesontoast> yea got those packages installed doesn't play with totem or vlc
[00:18] <undecim> Skjoedt: There was a root and swap for two Ubuntu installs and also a /boot partition?
[00:18] <spanglesontoast> main error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called is the only error I get with vlc
[00:19] <hiku> !restricted | spanglesontoast
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> spanglesontoast, see my two options at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/enable-dvd-video-playback
[00:19] <undecim> Skjoedt: And you deleted the two partitions that were used by the older Ubuntu inistall, but left the root, swap, and boot partitions for the other one?
[00:19] <spanglesontoast> ah I see ty ZykoticK9
[00:20] <Galaxor> I got the answer to my question from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842970 .  To summarize, xmodmap -pke showed me that the key I wanted to disable was XF86Back, and it had keycode 166.  I did xmodmap -e 'keycode 166 = NoSymbol' and it was disabled.  I added a script to System > Preferences > Startup Applications.
[00:20] <Skjoedt> undecim: Correct. So grub is proberly giving an error since it cannot find Ubuntu 9.x partition
[00:21] <undecim> Skjoedt: If the /boot was left intact though, that shouldn't be a problem.
[00:21] <ryaxnb> think ubottus being lobotomized lately, join #ubuntu-bots
[00:21] <undecim> Skjoedt: You have 3 partitions left, right?
[00:21] <rww> ryaxnb: Offtopic, #ubuntu-oftopic, etc. You know the rules.
[00:22] <ryaxnb> okey okey
[00:22] <Skjoedt> undecim: Yes, plus two windows partitions. (Im still on live CD though).
[00:23] <undecim> Skjoedt: What's on that 200MB ext4 you mentioned?
[00:23] <gizmobay> I came home and my PC won't start. No power. I jumped the power supply and it kicks on. I noticed my PC fan turned but not my CPU fan. Doesn't the CPU have a direct power connect so shouldn't this spin once I jump the PSU? Would the CPU fan dying prevent the whole PC from turning on?
[00:24] <Skjoedt> undecim: I don't know how to access it, but in gparted it is flagged "boot" (not to be confused with mount point)
[00:24] <Tetracomm> trism: Ok, installing that now.
[00:24] <Tetracomm> oops
[00:24] <undecim> Skjoedt: Flagged with the boot flag, or that's it's label?
[00:24] <Tetracomm> trism: It still doesn't work after installing that.
[00:24] <Skjoedt> undecim: Flagged. No label.
[00:24] <trism> Tetracomm: what's the error now?
[00:25] <undecim> Skjoedt: Well, that shouldn't make a difference to Grub... You should be able to access it from a file browser. It will be called "200 MB Volume" or something like that
[00:25] <Tetracomm> trism: Same error,
[00:25] <Skjoedt> undecim: Also the primary 100gb ext4 is not mounted to / but to /media/0ga02gs~  but I guess that is because I am on live CD
[00:26] <Skjoedt> undecim: Ah there we are. Grub dir is inside
[00:26] <ilovefairuz> gizmobay: yes, because the cpu would overheat and shut itself off
[00:26] <undecim> Okay, then, I think we just need to reinstall grub... Is this liveCD the same version as the installed ubuntu?
[00:26] <Skjoedt> undecim: Yes it is
[00:27] <undecim> Skjoedt: Alright, I'll walk you through the install if you want.
[00:27] <Skjoedt> undecim: I don't suppose Ubuntu updates while being installed
[00:27] <gizmobay> Okay, that's what I thought. Onto my 4th CPU fan blah
[00:27] <Skjoedt> undecim: Sure, if you got the time. Would be great
[00:27] <undecim> Skjoedt: Nope... You get to update after installing
[00:28] <undecim> Skjoedt: Alright, first, eject the 200mb volume from the file browser
[00:28] <ilovefairuz> gizmobay: could be dusty and needs cleaning up, take it apart and clean/test it
[00:28] <undecim> Skjoedt: Do you know the device file for this partition (something like "/dev/sda1")
[00:28] <Skjoedt> undecim: Do you mean right-click unmount?
[00:28] <undecim> Skjoedt: yup
[00:29] <gizmobay> how can you test it?
[00:29] <plitter> does anyone know of a guide that takes away the gnome panels and gives u a popout menu at the mouse when u press alt+f1?
[00:29] <Skjoedt> undecim: /dev/sda6 is the 100gb ubuntu partition
[00:29] <undecim> Skjoedt: I need the device for the 200mb boot partition
[00:30] <Skjoedt> undecim: That is /dev/sda5
[00:30] <red2kic> plitter: Err. Hide the panels? :(
[00:30] <ilovefairuz> gizmobay: change connectors or test on a different PSU
[00:30] <ilovefairuz> !who | gizmobay
[00:30] <undecim> Skjoedt: Okay, open a terminal and run "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /boot"
[00:30] <plitter> red2kic: already done that:P I want it so that i wont ever have to see it again;)
[00:30] <Skjoedt> undecim: Done
[00:30] <undecim> Skjoedt: then "sudo rm -rf /boot/grub"
[00:30] <gizmobay> !tab
[00:31] <undecim> Skjoedt: then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[00:31] <ilovefairuz> plitter: takes it away as in hide it or remove it altogether ?
[00:31] <gizmobay> okay thanks ilovefairuz
[00:31] <Skjoedt> undecim: without 5? /dev/sda
[00:31] <undecim> Skjoedt: Correct. WIthout the 5
[00:31] <red2kic> plitter: Why do you want that? I suppose you could disable gnome-panel forever by renaming /usr/bin/gnome-panel to /usr/bin/gnome-panel.bak
[00:31] <Skjoedt> undecim: Cd spinning...
[00:31] <Skjoedt> undecim: Finished
[00:32] <undecim> Skjoedt: Okay, if it all went without error, you should have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg file with all your OSs in it
[00:32] <quidnunc> What is the command to obtain the filesystem info on a partition?
[00:32] <undecim> Skjoedt: If so, you can reboot and see if it worked.
[00:32] <hiku> quidnunc: mount
[00:32] <plitter> ilovefairuz: remove it altogether, but need to have the popup menu with all of the stuff like the menu, sound and network osv.
[00:32] <quidnunc> hiku: Without mounting
[00:33] <hiku> quidnunc: that won't mount, -a will mount everything in /etc/fstab
[00:33] <plitter> red2kic: well i need the popup menu....
[00:33] <hiku> quidnunc: mount just does what you asked...
[00:33] <quidnunc> hiku: I don't want to mount it
[00:33] <ilovefairuz> plitter: you could remove and use a launcher like gnome do
[00:33] <hiku> quidnunc: I just told you. type mount, it will give you a list of all the stuff that is mounted
[00:33] <rww> FaidonF: alright, there you go :)
[00:33] <FaidonF> hello world
[00:33] <undecim> plitter: If you have program that will give you the functionality of a menu when you press ALT+F1, I know how to replace gnome-panel with that program.
[00:33] <quidnunc> hiku: I don't want to mount the partition. I don't know how I am being unclear.
[00:34] <red2kic> plitter: Dunno. :)
[00:34] <undecim> plitter: I just don't know of any program that does that XD
[00:34] <ilovefairuz> quidnunc: sudo fdisk -l
[00:34] <plitter> ilovefairuz: launcher?
[00:34] <Skjoedt> undecim: "sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg" shows up empty
[00:34] <quidnunc> ilovefairuz: Thank you
[00:34] <hiku> quidnunc: the command "mount" won't mount anything unless you pass it options to do so. so at a command prompt/cli, when you type mount it reads /etc/mtab and then displays it for you.
[00:34] <undecim> Skjoedt: Alright, run "sudo update-grub" and that should fill it up
[00:34] <plitter> my brother has that and he uses debian, so i thought it might be an easy fix:)
[00:35] <undecim> plitter: was it like that already or did he set that up?
[00:35] <Skjoedt> undecim: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[00:35] <ilovefairuz> plitter: http://do.davebsd.com
[00:35] <undecim> Skjoedt: Hmm... Maybe we should chroot and fix it from there...
[00:36] <undecim> Skjoedt: Was that a fatal error or did it add anything to grub.cfg?
[00:36] <plitter> undecim: i dont know.... and he is in the usa so i cant ask him then eff it up:P so thought would ask here first
[00:36] <Tetracomm> trism: Now i'm upset. :(
[00:36] <trism> Tetracomm: think I have it now, seems to be working for me with libwxgtk2.8-dev and passing --enable-unicode to configure
[00:36] <quidnunc> hiku: One of us is misunderstanding the other. No matter, fdisk works fine
[00:36] <Skjoedt> undecim: Still nothing inside. What is chroot?
[00:37] <undecim> plitter: If you're not too attached to gnome, I think XFCE gives that functionality
[00:37] <trism> Tetracomm: not done compling yet though, so not 100%
[00:37] <upgrdman> is it possible to set mouse acceleration speeds independently? touchpad vs. mouse
[00:37] <plitter> undecim: is there a way to just test xfce?
[00:37] <undecim> plitter: If you install XFCE, you will get to choose between gnome and XFCe from the login window
[00:37] <plitter> undecim: wait dont answer that:P probably on the net:P
[00:37] <sjm> plitter, does your brother use gnome or another window manager/Desktop environment
[00:37] <Tetracomm> trism: Ok. I will try that
[00:37] <Skjoedt> undecim: I unmounted the 200mb partition earlier. Will I have to mount it again?
[00:37] <undecim> Skjoedt: Basically, it lets us log into another system that is installed without booting it
[00:37] <plitter> undecim: thanks will try:)
[00:38] <undecim> Skjoedt: Yes, but ldifferently this time...
[00:38] <Tetracomm> trism: So ./configure --enable unicode?
[00:38] <undecim> Skjoedt: Actually, go ahead and run the same command again...
[00:38] <ilovefairuz> plitter: or check "docky"
[00:38] <quidnunc> I'm about to annihilate a partition that has the boot flag set according to fdisk -l. Is that safe? Is that where grub is?
[00:38] <hiku> quidnunc: clearly. try "man mount" to read up on what mount can do
[00:38] <trism> Tetracomm: yes, ./configure --enable-unicode
[00:39] <Skjoedt> undecim: The sudo rm -rf /boot/grub command?
[00:39] <JRummy16> question: find /path/to/a_lot/of/directories -type f -exec echo {} ';'    <---- is there a way to echo the basename for that command and not the full directory path? using basename with echo doesn't seem to work i.e. echo $( basename {} )
[00:39] <undecim> quidnunc: You're fine. Grub is on the MBR, and "bootable" partitions mean nothing to Ubuntu or grub
[00:39] <hiku> quidnunc: why not just remove the boot flag?
[00:39] <sjm> plitter, you might try installing lxde (openbox)  and not letting pcfileman control the desktop.  You will then get the openbox popup menus.
[00:39] <Tetracomm> trism: It still doesn't work. Same error.
[00:39] <undecim> Skjoedt: No, the "mount /dev/sda5 /boot" command
[00:39] <quidnunc> hiku: Because I'm not sure if it essential for booting.
[00:39] <quidnunc> undecim: Thanks
[00:39] <ilovefairuz> quidnunc: pastebin the output
[00:39] <undecim> Skjoedt: The same mount command I meant, lol
[00:40] <ilovefairuz> !paste | quidnunc
[00:40] <Skjoedt> undecim: Already mounted. It seems alright
[00:40] <plitter> ilovefairuz: thanks will check it out
[00:40] <plitter> sjm: writing it down:)
[00:40] <undecim> okay, now we need to mount the partition that Ubuntu is installed to. You can do that with the file manager if you wish
[00:40] <plitter> thanks for help guys:D
[00:41] <undecim> Skjoedt: okay, now we need to mount the partition that Ubuntu is installed to. You can do that with the file manager if you wish
[00:41] <sjm> plitter, the package debian-menu will add all the debian menus, too.
[00:41] <Skjoedt> undecim: Nothing happens as I click mount on the 100gb partition
[00:42] <undecim> Skjoedt: It may take a moment to mount
[00:42] <Sonja> i need halp setting up a password-protected share in samba
[00:42] <quidnunc> ilovefairuz:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/487525/
[00:42] <trism> Tetracomm: I don't see why you are getting the same error, did you install libwxgtk2.8-dev before reconfiguring?
[00:43] <undecim> Skjoedt: After mounting it, you will need to know its mount point. That is the location that nautilus shows, like "/media/disk"
[00:43] <trism> Tetracomm: although it may not matter, I am stuck on another error at the moment, they have a terrible configure script
[00:43] <hiku> Sonja: try - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/samba-password-protected-shared-folder-347324/
[00:43] <undecim> Skjoedt: Got it to mount yet?
[00:43] <Skjoedt> undecim:  Still not mounted
[00:44] <undecim> Maybe you should mount it manually... run "sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt" in the terminal
[00:44] <proq> is there a list anywhere of what ubuntu packages are the most popular?
[00:44] <ilovefairuz> quidnunc: it's unlikely that grub is installed on sda2 being an NTFS partition, most likely it's installed to sda (the MBR) or a linux partition
[00:44] <Skjoedt> undecim:  Wait. Think file browser is bugged. In gparted I can click unmount on the partition and its mount point is /media/0a360e9f-fb2d-4465-8aaf-3a10f605e53a
[00:45] <undecim> Skjoedt: Okay, if it's mounted, that's all we need.
[00:45] <quidnunc> ilovefairuz: Is there a way to confirm to be safe?
[00:45] <Skjoedt> undecim: I hope it is :-)
[00:46] <undecim> Skjoedt: Now, run this command: for i in "dev proc sys boot"; do sudo mount --bind /$i /media/0a360e9f-fb2d-4465-8aaf-3a10f605e53a/$i; done
[00:46] <undecim> Skjoedt: that should get all the /sys, /proc, /dev, and /boot partitions set up for the chroot...
[00:46] <ilovefairuz> proq: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ but it's probably not what you're looking for ..
[00:47] <undecim> Skjoedt: If that command works without any errors, then you can run "sudo chroot /media/0a360e9f-fb2d-4465-8aaf-3a10f605e53a"
[00:47] <Skjoedt> undecim: Hold on. Just ran the mount command you mentioned and now it seems to have two mount points in gparted /mnt and /media/0a3~
[00:47] <undecim> Skjoedt: Okay, looks like we need to clean this up before we go any further... What does "mount | grep sda6" show?
[00:48] <proq> ilovefairuz: I think that might be what I was looking for  :)
[00:49] <Tetracomm> trism: Yes, it is installed. Yes, I hate it when crappy disgusting programmers make it impossible to install programs because they won't even make a binary and then make a crappy script which does not work.
[00:49] <Skjoedt> undecim: It shows up both (two lines). /media/ with most parameters like rw, nosuid etc.
[00:49] <Skjoedt> undecim: /mnt with only (rw) parameter
[00:49] <undecim> okay, run "sudo umount /dev/sda6" twice, then check again... both lines should be gone
[00:49] <undecim> Skjoedt: brb
[00:50] <ilovefairuz> quidnunc: i think so, yes, but can't remember which config file ...
[00:50] <ilovefairuz> proq: great
[00:50] <Skjoedt> undecim: Okay now its empty. Alright
[00:50] <helios-79> hello! How do i configure lilo to boot ubuntu 10.04.1 ?
[00:52] <ilovefairuz> helios-79: read lilo's man page?
[00:53] <undecim> Skjoedt: Okay, run that mount /dev/sda6 /mnt again...
[00:53] <helios-79> ilovefairuz, i thought i could get the answer her.
[00:53] <Skjoedt> undecim: Okay mounted in /mnt
[00:53] <undecim> Skjoedt: then, after that, run this: for i in "dev proc sys boot"; do sudo mount --bind /$i /mnt/$i; done
[00:54] <undecim> Skjoedt: That will take care of the dev,proc,sys, and boot folders for the chroot... If all goes without error, run "sudo chroot /mnt"
[00:54] <ilovefairuz> helios-79:  what's the point of repeating the manual text here? read it, and if there's something you don't understand, ask
[00:55] <eblume> Hi - I'm running a KVM virtualization environment managed through libvirt. The host and the guest in question are both Ubuntu 10.04 Server (64 bit). My issue is this: libvirt can't shut down the guest via the "shutdown" command. Therefore, my question is: "How can I tell why a shutdown hardware event isn't causing the server to shut off?"
[00:55] <helios-79> ilovefairuz, ok, so this is a forwarding channel to manpages?
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> Why would one need to use LILO in this day and age?
[00:56] <Skjoedt> undecim: Check syntax again, it sends me to man page. Its a loop right? All of it >>for i in "dev proc sys boot"; do sudo mount --bind /$i /mnt/$i; done<<
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> install lilo, make a proper config, run lilo to update the mbr.
[00:56] <whyameye> I need to set dimensions and frame rate for a v4l2 device from the command line. Basically I need to do what guvcview lets me do from a gui, but I need to do it from a script. What app might I call?
[00:56] <ilovefairuz> helios-79: oh yes, if they contain the right answers
[00:56] <proq> how do I list the dependencies for an apt package?
[00:56] <whyameye> how can I route the sound of an app to the equivalent of /dev/null?
[00:56] <bastidrazor> proq: apt-cache policy packagename
[00:57] <undecim> Skjoedt: Oh sorry... remove the quotes from the middle of the command
[00:57] <bastidrazor> proq: wait.. i'm wrong.
[00:57] <eblume> Put it another way: does anyone know what the default Ubuntu Server behaviour is when you press (but do not hold) the power button?
[00:57] <bastidrazor> proq: apt-cache show packagename
[00:57] <undecim> Skjoedt: The quotes made it treat the whole thing as a single folder called "dev proc sys boot" XD
[00:58] <Skjoedt> undecim: That worked, hold on
[00:58] <proq> thanks
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> eblume:  in the paste normally it would go to init level 6 and shutdown.. but ive also seen it reboot.  but that may of been due to the machines bios
[00:58] <Skjoedt> undecim: chroot /mnt also worked
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> eblume:  ive seen a setting for that somewhere...  i wonder where...
[00:58] <undecim> Skjoedt: Alright. You are now, for all intents and purposes, logged into your installed system... Run "update-grub"
[00:58] <eblume> Dr_Willis: but the important point is that *something* happens. In my Guest VM of Ubuntu Server, nothing at all happens
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> eblume:  in a VM - all bets are off.
[00:59] <logankoester> Can anyone tell me how to prevent a particular mount point from showing up on the gnome desktop?
[00:59] <ilovefairuz> whyameye: why /dev/null? just mute the process in the volume applet ?
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> eblume:  the power button on the real machine would be affecting the host . not the guest
[00:59] <undecim> Skjoedt: If that completes without error, you should be able to reboot and have a working Grub installation
[00:59] <logankoester> I added a hard drive today and don't really need a shortcut to it since its always there
[01:00] <whyameye> ilovefairuz: I'm not using pulseaudio. the app is using oss. Also I'm calling from a script
[01:00] <Skjoedt> undecim: Few errors, http://pastebin.com/ujm9Duxs
[01:00] <eblume> Dr_Willis: Yes you are correct. The issue I have is that issuing the libvirt "shutdown" command to the VM SHOULD mimic a hardware "power off" request, but nothing appears to be happening.
[01:01] <Skjoedt> undecim: "Reserveret til systemet" directly means "reserved to system". Its a label on one of my ntfs partitions
[01:01] <bastidrazor> logankoester: where is its mountpoint?
[01:01] <undecim> Skjoedt: Alright, I can see where that would be a problem... Open a new terminal and run "sudo mount --bind /media /mnt/media", then run the update-grub in the chroot'd terminal again
[01:01] <bastidrazor> logankoester: in /media ?
[01:02] <Skjoedt> undecim: Better, only one warning: "sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu"
[01:02] <undecim> Skjoedt: That shouldn't be a problem
[01:02] <undecim> Reboot and see if it works
[01:02] <Skjoedt> undecim: However it doesn't seem to have found windows if I understand it correctly
[01:03] <ilovefairuz> logankoester: gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible -t bool false       (note: this will hide ALL "volumes" but they can be still accessed from the Places menu)
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I have a video (home movie) DVD. thats some how messed up. I was able to make a playable .iso from it via dd_rescue, (vlc can play it) but I cent seem to get any other tools to recognize it as being a DVD video iso. Theres not a 'fsck iso' type tool out that can read/correct the iso file is there?
[01:03] <Skjoedt> undecim: http://pastebin.com/zRQNSL8r
[01:03] <clayd> how do i look what processor is running on a system
[01:04] <clayd> *a system is running
[01:04] <Skjoedt> undecim: Does it seem okay?
[01:04] <bastidrazor> clayd: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:04] <clayd> thanks
[01:04] <undecim> Skjoedt: well, it should be able to boot your Ubuntu install at least...
[01:05] <Skjoedt> undecim: I'll go ahead an try. be right back
[01:05] <undecim> Skjoedt: I would try rebooting and having a look. Also, if you can get to Ubuntu and not windows, try a software update
[01:05] <ilovefairuz> Dr_Willis: can't VLC rip the video out  and then you can recreate it?
[01:05] <alexbobP> I just did an ubuntu install, and it works, but the computer isn't automatically connecting to the network, I have to run dhclient manually
[01:06] <alexbobP> what's the ubuntu service that keeps dhcp up to date?  what do I need to do to make it happen on boot?
[01:06] <Tetracomm> trism: http://wiki.wxpython.org/InstallingOnUbuntuOrDebian
[01:06] <trism> Tetracomm: oh wait, there was another package I installed too: wx2.8-i18n and you will also need unixodbc-dev for later, seems to be making good progress now, but may be more errors coming
[01:06] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: are you using standard ubuntu with network manager?
[01:06] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: yeah, I installed from the alternate cd
[01:07] <Tetracomm> trism: Ok, we will see what happens.
[01:07] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: even if I start the network manager process manually, it quits right away or something, because it's not running
[01:08] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: what command do you use?
[01:08] <superjuan> After installing upgrades to ubuntu   10 my audio doesn't work
[01:08] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: "sudo start network-manager" and "sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager" start both
[01:08] <alexbobP> which I think are the same thing anyways
[01:08] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: network manager is started by default, and to start it manually: sudo service network-manager start
[01:09] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: any error messages?
[01:09] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: same issue if I do it that way
[01:09] <alexbobP> no error message... I get a pid, and then if I grep ps that pid is gone :P
[01:09] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: check /var/log/messages
[01:09] <jjohnson> i really like this ubuntu netbook edition, but is there anyway to go to the normal gnome desktop?
[01:09] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: did you edit your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:10] <MaRk-I> jjohnson: if you have disk space you can install ubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: oh!  thanks
[01:10] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: there's no entry for eth0 in there.
[01:10]  * alexbobP fixes that
[01:11] <jjohnson> how much space we talking about im using a 8gb SSD drive
[01:11] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: I just added "auto eth0" to it... I'm rebooting to see what happens
[01:11] <alexbobP> jjohnson: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <undecim> jjohnson: The default Ubuntu install requires 2GB. You will need a little less since you already have some of it with the netbook install
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i doubt this info is going to help much - but the DVD can't really be an ISO (as ISO is a filesystem, and DVDs don't use typical file systems, the same would apply to audio cds), so i imagine you have an image (but not an actual ISO) that may be creating some of the recognition issues with other applications
[01:12] <ilovefairuz> jjohnson: you probably could install ubuntu-desktop (or gnome-desktop-environment)
[01:13] <jjohnson> ill think about it i got 4gb left and im not sure what im going to do with this laptop yet
[01:13] <ilovefairuz> jjohnson: a smaller/minimal gnome desktop package is gnome-core
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  it had block read/io errors from the start so its hard to tell what it is. It was made with a DVR by the wife ages ago.  Sad tht the disk is unscratched and looks fine. but the PC is just having a hard time playing it.. Of course for all i know she may of frogot to 'finialize' the disk,
[01:14] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: hmm, that didn't do it :(
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  vlc does play the iso file. so imn trying to get vlc to convert it to a decnt video file now. :) lets see how it goes.
[01:14] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: network-manager still crashes out as soon as it runs
[01:15] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: network manager does NOT manage interfaces declared in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:15] <skjoedt> undecim: Hmm didn't quite work. Could see the linux distro and recovery but it failed to load. Tried to upload a picture of the error here: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33c6u0p&s=7 (sorry for all the ads)
[01:15] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: oh O_O
[01:15] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: so I shouldn't have the entry there?
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i'm sorry i don't have any real suggestions for you.  you could try throwing dvd9to5 at the ISO/Image or another encoding software perhaps.
[01:15] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: something is crashing it, or you should /var/log/messages, or remove it altogether and write a proper interfaces file
[01:15] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: should check *
[01:16] <alexbobP> *?
[01:16] <Omnissiah> Hey
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  yea. Its just a silly show she recorded from tv that she wants on her pc.. it even looks cruddy on the dvd. she dident know how to set it properly to record a decent show. :)
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  k3b cant even recopy the iso to a new disk it says its not a valid iso file.
[01:17] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP:  check the file /var/log/messages for any relevant errors
[01:17] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: Im looking through it, but nothing shows up there when I try to run networkmanager
[01:17] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: or uninstall network manager, and configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:17] <undecim> skjoedt: It shows it using ext3 to access an ext4 filesystem, but grub only uses ext2 (which is enough to read ext4). That means that you're trying to mount an ext4 filesystem with an Ubuntu installation that only supports ext3. Are you sure you deleted the correct installation?
[01:17] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: I'll try that
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, that "invalid iso" goes back to my origional message - it technically can't be
[01:18] <ilovefairuz> alexbobP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine
[01:18] <skjoedt> undecim: Yes I checked the filesize. My previous ubuntu distro was only on a 40gb partition.
[01:18] <undecim> skjoedt: hmm... I wonder if maybe it's trying to use a kernel from the older install...
[01:19] <undecim> skjoedt: Is there anything on this install that you wouldn't mind losing? I think it might be easiest to just reinstall.
[01:19] <Omnissiah> Ok so, I'm having what seems to be a fairly common problem with my Ubuntu 9.10 install. The problem is the display issues with the Intel graphics drivers. I've so far managed to get my resolution to where i want it, however now the entire screen is shifted to the left. I don't want to change this on the monitor because it would mess up my windows install. How would i recenter the screen?
[01:19] <skjoedt> undecim: Would it help to delete all of the partitions except ntfs and go ahead and install again?
[01:20] <Omnissiah> I have been on forums and google, and so far haven't found a solution.
[01:20] <skjoedt> undecim: Nope, its a clean distro. So no worry. Then we can work on getting windows integrated in grub
[01:20] <undecim> skjoedt: Yeah, if you can reinstall, that would be the easiest thing to do. It can fixed, but it would take more time and effort than just reinstalling.
[01:20] <undecim> skjoedt: After a software update, grub should detect windows
[01:21] <skjoedt> undecim: Software update? You mean "sudo grub-update" ?
[01:21] <undecim> skjoedt: Don't know why, but it always seems to take an update for that...
[01:21] <undecim> skjoedt: No, I mean a package upgrade
[01:21] <JohnRandomMobile> hi everyone ... quick question: "locate -u" was once used to build the database for locate .... is that something else for ubuntu?
[01:21] <skjoedt> undecim: Like apt-get upgrade?
[01:21] <JohnRandomMobile> google just says -u ...
[01:22] <undecim> JohnRandomMobile: I think it's updatedb now.
[01:22] <undecim> skjoedt: yup
[01:22] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: okay, I got it configured with the interfaces file and it all works now\
[01:22] <alexbobP> ilovefairuz: thanks a bunch
[01:22] <JohnRandomMobile> undecim: I'll check that, thanks
[01:22] <ilovefairuz> Dr_Willis: ZykoticK9: ISO (in an optical disks context) doesn't only refer to the 9660 filesystem
[01:23] <skjoedt> undecim: Last time I did that it split my system in to two distros, so I had two linux kernels in the grub list. I know its not an issue but its confusing
[01:23] <ZykoticK9> ilovefairuz, ISO "should" - image would be a better word
[01:24] <undecim> skjoedt: It just splits the kernel. It just in case there are problems with the new one you can use the old one.
[01:25] <undecim> skjoedt: It's still the same OS, just with a previous version of the core part of it in case you can't use the new one for some reason.
[01:25] <skjoedt> undecim: I understand. I'll try reinstalling it all. If your are not here afterwards I'll thank you for your guidance. It was very thourough
[01:25] <undecim> skjoedt: np
[01:26] <bm10> hey all
[01:27] <bm10> anyone having problems with updating
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  the wife never finalized the disk.. its 5 hrs of recording.. :) lets see if it works now.
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, fingers crossed for ya ;)
[01:28] <ilovefairuz> !details | bm10
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  yea. its going to take handbreak some time to reenciode 5 hrs of video even if its at low res
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  ETA till done: 2.4 hrs. :()
[01:29] <bm10> trying to update from terminal tells me this...Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  universedeb/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:29] <bm10> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:31] <ilovefairuz> Dr_Willis: rip as AVI to minimize time and maximize quality, you can use ffmpeg later on it
[01:31] <Josefu8> I just upgraded from 10.04 to the 10.10 beta through the update manager, after restaring though ubuntu boots into a command line asking me to login there, it reocgnises my old user/pass but after that no Gnome Desktop , just the command line. Running in dual boot with Win7 if thats relevnat. Any idea what ive done ?
[01:31] <skjoedt> undecim: Got a question for installation. Now, I'd like a root partition for ubuntu but a seperate partition for home dir for easy backup. That means I have to do it manually, can you suggest a quick partition table for 120gb total usage?
[01:32] <bastidrazor> Josefu8: you should join #ubuntu+1 for Maverick
[01:32] <Josefu8> ah thanks , will do
[01:32] <skjoedt> undecim: Including all swap, ext3-4, boot partitions
[01:33] <undecim> skjoedt: Well, I have a 10GB root partition
[01:33] <undecim> skjoedt: The swap size depends on how much memory you tend to use, how much you have, and if you want to be able to hibernate... I rarely use swap, but have it just larger than my memory so i can use hibernate
[01:33] <undecim> skjoedt: then the rest I have for /home. That's where most stuff is stored on my computer
[01:33] <FloodBot2> undecim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <undecim> skjoedt: I don't bother with separate boot partitions unless I want to have two linux distros on one computer, but if you want a separate boot, go with about 100 MB
[01:34] <litropy> does anyone know anything about madwifi?
[01:34] <litropy> or connecting with a spoofed mac address?
[01:34] <ilovefairuz> !details | litropy
[01:35] <quidnunc> How do I backup my MBR and partition table?
[01:35] <litropy> because everything I'm reading says the stock drivers won't connect with a spoofed mac
[01:35] <skjoedt> undecim: Okay, that will do.. Thanks
[01:35] <undecim> skjoedt: no problem
[01:35] <litropy> I've tried different things in the starup script
[01:35] <litropy> such as stopping nm then starting again ... but no dice
[01:36] <litropy> AR9285, btw
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, seeing as who wants it, it's probably worth the cpu time ;)  Glad handbrake worked for ya though, great program!
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> ilovefairuz:  its 352x264 video anyway.. Wife dident understand 'quality' when she hit the record button. :) but  its good enough for her. Its a 4 hr miniseries with comercials even.. :)
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  yea, wife cant see too good anyway. so Low Quality is good for her. She just HAS to have this Little House video on her new O!Play
[01:39] <tomvolek> hi all, i am running ubunt 9.1  ,  my volume control on the desktop sometimes disapears after bootup and i have no sound .  where can i find this control ?
[01:40] <ilovefairuz> litropy: ifconfig hw ether doesn't work?
[01:40] <undecim> ilovefairuz: I don't think that works for wifi...
[01:40] <undecim> ilovefairuz: It might though...
[01:41] <litropy> that, I haven't tried. editing startup script, ilovefairuz
[01:41]  * ilovefairuz goes to test on my ath chipset 
[01:43] <ilovefairuz> works fine, and i'm using the ath5k driver, not wifi
[01:43] <ilovefairuz> not madwifi **
[01:45] <Eth4n> How do I get eggdrop to work with my install of tcl
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> Eth4n:  checked the eggdrop configs for the path its using for tcl? You did install tcl right?
[01:47] <Eth4n> sudo apt-get install tcl?
[01:47] <Eth4n> isnt that right?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> no idea.. i havent used tcl in ages
[01:47] <Eth4n> same
[01:47] <IdleOne> Eth4n: you want tcl8.5-dev
[01:47] <Eth4n> been a while
[01:47] <Eth4n> ok
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> I recall the day of old where TCL was  common. :) Now Python is the big scripting language/tool for  things tcl used to do
[01:48] <Eth4n> mhmm
[01:48] <Eth4n> i know a little bit of python
[01:49] <Eth4n> k its working
[01:49] <Eth4n> thanks IdleOne
[01:49] <divecks>  hey, I just upgraded my desktop to the beta, and my boot stalls after a bit at plymouth. I'm on the machine right now in Failsafe X which works fine.. upon further investigation I found that in /var/log/Xorg.1, I get a "fatal sever error: no screens found", caused because Xorg failed to loaad fglrx.. I know this isn't Ubuntu+1, but I figured someone might be able to help. thanks :D
[01:49] <IdleOne> Eth4n: sure thing, just recently had the same problem
[01:49] <Eth4n> lol
[01:50] <a3Dman> Did anyone tried Lightspark with Ubuntu?
[01:50] <Eth4n> divecks: I will give you one tip
[01:50] <Eth4n> Do NOT use betas/rc's for your main os
[01:50] <Eth4n> i used Ubutnu 9.10 rc for my main os
[01:50] <Eth4n> and it didnt work out
[01:53] <rek> what's that?
[01:53] <LordNeo> How can i configure a VPN to not change my default gateway? I'm using "sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.X" but the internet goes really slow...
[01:54] <divecks> Eth4n, Yeah the folks in ubu+1 are helping, apparently its a known issue :(
[01:54] <divecks> Eth4n, Thegood news being the free drivers should work.
[01:54] <Eth4n> ok divecks
[01:54] <Eth4n> I havent actually used Ubuntu in a while
[01:54] <Eth4n> desktop edition that is'
[01:54] <Eth4n> my vps runs ubuntu 10.04 server
[01:55] <AndrewMC> is there a way i can have ubuntu auto enable my webcam as the default mic?
[01:55] <UncleD> I'm trying to do a cat *|grep word of a directory of .xml files for certain words, but its not finding the words that are in the files. Any suggestions?
[01:55] <litropy> ilovefairuz: well, that didn't work, either.
[01:56] <ilovefairuz> litropy: are you using madwifi ?
[01:56] <jrib> UncleD: well first off, doing it that way is silly.  Do: grep WORD FILES
[01:56] <Gh0st75> hello
[01:56] <litropy> ilovefairuz: no. I'm reading I MIGHT have to go through the grueling process of installing it.
[01:57] <ilovefairuz> litropy: i'm NOT using it, and it works fine for me
[01:57] <Gh0st75> madwifi is still required for wireless on the new ubuntu?
[01:57] <litropy> what's your chipset, ilovefairuz
[01:57] <litropy> and you're spoofed?
[01:57] <litropy> I've got an AR9285
[01:58] <ilovefairuz> litropy: AR5001X+
[01:58] <litropy> ilovefairuz: hm.
[01:58] <ilovefairuz> litropy: yes spoofed
[01:58] <litropy> what's your script like, ilovefairuz, and do you still use NetworkManager to connect?
[01:58] <LordNeo> How can i configure a VPN to not change my default gateway? I'm using "sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.X" but the internet goes really slow...
[02:00]  * Gh0st75 tries to give Ubuntu a chance every new version, working wireless is all that's needed to be my main OS, but i keep getting disappointed :(
[02:00] <ilovefairuz> litropy: no i'm not using network manager (but i think there's an option in its GUI to change the MAC) and I'm not using scripts, just issuing this command manually before scanning/etc:  ifconfig wlan0 hw ether SPOOFED_MAC_HERE
[02:01] <jrib> Gh0st75: what card?
[02:01] <Gh0st75> it's a broadcom i believe, 2009 MacMini
[02:01] <litropy> ilovefairuz: then you're iwconfig dhclient'ing?
[02:02] <jrib> Gh0st75: you went to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[02:02] <ilovefairuz> litropy: yeap
[02:03] <Gh0st75> jrib: yes, ubuntu has the broadcom drivers activated, but while i can see my SSID, it won't authenticate
[02:04] <litropy> ilovefairuz: is your comp set to load drivers for your card, then bring the interface up, upon bootup, then you're ifconfig down, ifconfig hw ether, ifconfig up?
[02:04] <jrib> Gh0st75: what encryption are you using?
[02:04] <Gh0st75> wpa personal
[02:04] <Gh0st75> was gonna change it to wep for Nintendo DS purposes, but haven't yet
[02:05] <litropy> Gh0st75: do you get an auth error?
[02:05] <litropy> Gh0st75: as in is your login being rejected?
[02:06] <Gh0st75> yes, it keeps popping up asking for the password
[02:06] <Gh0st75> the password works fine when i boot my mac mini into OSX or Win7
[02:07] <ilovefairuz> litropy: i brought the interface down from AP mode (because I use it as an AP) and tested this, the driver is ath5k which gets loaded on boot (no hacks needed)
[02:07] <almoxarife> so I called a fax number using google voice, the new free service they are providing, and I hear the other side fax go into listen mode, it would be very cool to get a fax out via google voice, any thoughts on the how it could be done?
[02:07] <jrib> !ot | almoxarife
[02:07] <Leolo_3> i need help with selinux.  I'm trying to set up a serial printer with a USB to serial dongle.  I get the message :  type=1503 audit(1283475886.729:15): operation="open" pid=4027 parent=3389 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" requested_mask="rw::" denied_mask="rw::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/dev/ttyUSB0"
[02:07] <litropy> ilovefairuz: ath5k is ... a continuation of madwifi.
[02:08] <Leolo_3> audit2allow  -l -a -M local gives me : could not run ausearch - "[Errno 2] No such file or directory"
[02:08] <Leolo_3> what's more /selinux is empty ...
[02:08] <litropy> ilovefairuz: baaaaaah I'm gonna have to do the install gauntlet
[02:08] <ilovefairuz> litropy: i don't think it's the same code base, at least they removed the proprietary HAL layer
[02:09] <logankoester> ilovefairuz: thanks man
[02:09] <Leolo_3> help?
[02:09] <ilovefairuz> logankoester: you're welcome
[02:09] <avis> i'm using the banshee daily build ppa is it possible to buy music on lucid without that plugin that simply won't work through the amazon interface
[02:09] <almoxarife> jrib: the system I am using is ubuntu 64bit 10.04, the web app is chrome, how is that not a proper question??? I want to know how to interface a fax response from ubuntu to the outside fax
[02:10] <jrib> almoxarife: how to use google voice to send a fax isn't related to ubuntu at all...
[02:11] <quidnunc> When using lvm and lvextend should I be using /dev/mapper/volgrp00-foo or /dev/volgrp00/foo?
[02:12] <litropy> ilovefairuz: wait a minute ... I'm running ath9k. so a change to madwifi 0.9 would be a downgrade.
[02:12] <ilovefairuz> Leolo_3: sudo apt-get install auditd
[02:13] <almoxarife> what are the minimum requirements on ubuntu to send a fax via a connected phone?
[02:13] <litropy> ilovefairuz: are you connecting to a WEP network?
[02:13] <jrib> almoxarife: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax
[02:14] <almoxarife> jrib: thks
[02:14] <ilovefairuz> litropy: nope, an ad-hoc, no WEP or open networks around
[02:15] <litropy> ilovefairuz: wpa?
[02:15] <ilovefairuz> litropy: yes
[02:15] <litropy> ilovefairuz: how are you connecting to wpa with iwconfig? are you using wpa_supplicant?
[02:16] <ilovefairuz> litropy: i thought you mean the type of networks around, i'm not connecting to a WPA, just an ad-hoc
[02:16] <litropy> ilovefairuz: aaaah.
[02:17] <litropy> ilovefairuz: thanks for your time.
[02:17] <jack_ctu> hello everyone, i want to  set up a multiseat config from my acer aspire one netbook with karmic, i notice that /etc/X11/xorg.conf is missing.  I found a link to an outdated guide at http://www.linuxtoys.org/multiubuntu/multiubuntu.html , can anyone give me guidance to proceed please?
[02:17] <Leolo_3> ilovefairuz : turns out selinux isn't even enabled in this kernel.  so i'm scratching my head
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> jack_ctu:  make a xorg.conf if you need one
[02:18] <jack_ctu> * i realized that xorg.conf was removed in karmic by design, could I just ignore it?
[02:18] <jack_ctu> Hello Dr_Willis
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> jack_ctu:  my nvidia cards.settings require i make one. (well nvidia-settings tool makes one)
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> jack_ctu:  it was removed by X by design(i belive) . since X auto configures for the most part.
[02:19] <BluDog_Anchorite> server doesnt like kernel 2.6-32-24 but works fine on -23 .  can i just apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.32-24 and the system will boot -23 by default then ?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> well by 'Xorg' :)  it more technically correct.
[02:19] <ilovefairuz> Leolo_3: selinux isn't enabled by default on ubuntu and is not supported
[02:20] <zzzed> BluDog_Anchorite, doesn't the grub menu list your previous kernel(s)?
[02:21] <BluDog_Anchorite> zzzed: yes, but on a headless server, i cant select the previous kernel every time i need to reboot it
[02:21] <wasutton3> i am trying to move my / partition to a different partition. I know i should use rsync, but i dont know exactly what options to use.
[02:21] <BluDog_Anchorite> zzzed: hence, me wanting to remove the new one, and have it auto boot the older one
[02:21] <zzzed> BluDog_Anchorite, maybe set grub default?
[02:21] <jack_ctu> Dr_Willis: i think i understand, since this acer is an intel integrated graphics, i probably wont have the same need as if i had an nvidia vid card?
[02:21] <ChogyDan> wasutton3: I _think_ rsync -aS    maybe just -a?
[02:22] <BluDog_Anchorite> zzzed: not really looking to mess with grub if i can get away with it
[02:22] <wasutton3> ChogyDan: will that new partition be bootable?
[02:22] <zzzed> BluDog_Anchorite, ok
[02:22] <jack_ctu> Dr_Willis: so i think i'll just proceed to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to complete the multiseat config
[02:22] <jack_ctu> thank you for your help
[02:22] <ChogyDan> wasutton3: I really don't know, soz
[02:22] <sailerboy> hey, how would i upgrade an ipod touch with linux without using windows?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> jack_ctu:  if the guide is old.. well.. gdm is now 'gdm2' also - so that guide may not apply
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> !multiseat
[02:24] <Leolo_3> type=APPARMOR_DENIED msg=audit(1283476922.031:20): operation="open" pid=3885 parent=3356 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" requested_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" fsuid=0 ouid=7 name="/dev/ttyUSB0"
[02:24] <Arepie> hello.. i have setup an ubuntu server as a guess os. And, the mail function is not working. I'm using postfix
[02:25] <jack_ctu> Dr_Willis: thanks for the tip, i had no idea about 'gdm2', I'll look at that now and hopefully proceed with caution :)
[02:26] <ilovefairuz> !apparmor | Leolo_3
[02:26] <randomusr_> Ubuntu 10.04 installed. Main panel has two instances of bluetooth and two empty/useless applets. How to fix?
[02:26] <edd_> Hi, I could do with some support installing Veejay.. I'm running  Ubuntu 10.04 on an athlon 64 dual core. I've added the relevant depository but am chasing a chain of dependencies. The bottom one seems to be libraw1394-8 which is not showing in the list. I do however have libraw1394-11 installed. Any ideas? :)
[02:27] <Leolo_3> ilovefairuz : yeah, getting there
[02:27] <randomusr_> edd_, have you tried installing from the synaptic package manager?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> jack_ctu:  i seem to recall some  wiki pages and a company that had multiseat support in ubuntu  - but i never used the products. the 2 seat version was free i recall.
[02:28] <randomusr_> edd_, if it's not in the supported repo's then you may want to check the website for the required dependencies
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> randomusr_:  i noticed some oddities in the past ith double icons showing up in the panel. Not seen the issue lately. You have updated/upgraded?
[02:28] <sailerboy> hey, how would i upgrade an ipod touch with linux without using windows?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> !ipod | sailerboy
[02:29] <randomusr_> Dr_Willis, yes from 9.04 I believe
[02:29] <edd_> randomusr  | yeh, that's what i'm using.
[02:29] <sailerboy> Dr_Willis, how do i upgrade it?
[02:29] <Leolo_3> BINGO
[02:29] <genpfault> os-prober isn't finding my Windows XP install on /dev/sdb1 (Ubuntu is on /dev/sda).  Is there a config file or something that tells it what to scan?
[02:29] <randomusr_> Dr_Willis, I've also noticed that performance is greatly depreciated... Ideas?
[02:29] <Leolo_3> now to fight with udev perms
[02:29] <Leolo_3> but... tomorrow
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> randomusr_:  never noticed.
[02:30] <randomusr_> hmm I must be lucky then
[02:30] <luke-jr> I have a netbook that I've been using wireless for a while
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> randomusr_:  i always do clean installs normally
[02:30] <luke-jr> but when I try to plug it into Ethernet now, it just sits there
[02:30] <luke-jr> it doesn't try to bring the interface up or anything
[02:30] <luke-jr> :/
[02:31] <n0a1ias> hey, a dear friend of mine's wife passed away and he needs to get the files on her harddrive, but their password protected, and she used a mac so their archived with macs default archiver, i use ubuntu and told him i would try and help, any ideas?
[02:31] <randomusr_> edd_, have you checked the website from the program you want to install?  does it list the dependencies?
[02:31] <randomusr_> edd_, if you're using synaptic then the dependencies should be assumed.... what's the program again?  is it supported?
[02:31] <coz_> n0a1ias,   take the hard drive out of their system and hook it up via usb if you have a cable for it or add it to your system perhaps...
[02:32] <coz_> n0a1ias,  when I do a clients system I take the hard drive out and connect it via usb  ... regarless of the operating system on that drive the files should be avialable
[02:32] <BluDog_Anchorite> if i apt-get remove a kernel "newer" than the one im running, will grub automaticly boot the kernel i AM running ?
[02:33] <n0a1ias> coz_, i dont get the computer till after labor day, and i plan on doing that, just wondering if anyone knows any way around the password
[02:33] <madfox> BluDog_Anchorite better update grub before you boot, or boot into the lesser kernel next time\
[02:33] <n0a1ias> its encrypted
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> BluDog_Anchorite:  grub defaults to the  top one on the list.. so  it should boot whatever one is at top. if you remove a kernel.. it removes it from the list
[02:33] <BluDog_Anchorite> so if i remove the top one, it WILL boot the next one in the list ?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> n0a1ias:  Verly likely its not going to be possible then.
[02:34] <sailerboy> BluDog_Anchorite, you need to make sure you have a kernal installed
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> BluDog_Anchorite:  the next one will become the top one.
[02:34] <sailerboy> if you only have 2 boot entries (recovery and normal)
[02:34] <sailerboy> then you should install another kernal before you remove
[02:34] <mrandrzejak> hello! I cannot seem to find the network printer. I have two ubuntu lucid systems, with the printer on one of them. Both computers are wi-fi. sharing is enabled in the computer with the printer. please help thanks!
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> BluDog_Anchorite:  yea. be sure you have an older kernel still installed. :)
[02:34] <BluDog_Anchorite> sweet.  my server isnt agreeing with -24, so i want to roll back the update to -23.
[02:35] <sailerboy> mrandrzejak, try entering the ip address for the computer with the printer in printer config
[02:35] <n0a1ias> ok, thanks anyway though.
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> mrandrzejak:  try the cups web interface to see if it sees the other networked printers. http://localhost:631
[02:35] <BluDog_Anchorite> wanted to make sure grub wouldnt freak out.  thanks for the help zzzed and Dr_Willis
[02:35] <mrandrzejak> http://localhost:631 did not work
[02:35] <zzzed> BluDog_Anchorite, np
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> mrandrzejak:  that should go to the CUPS/printer config interface.. if that dident work.. well theres somthing odd going on
[02:36] <coz_> n0a1ias,  there is an application name  "john the ripper"   dont know if it will work but what I have read it might just do it
[02:36] <coz_> n0a1ias,  although I think that is for mac
[02:37] <coz_> n0a1ias,  I was wrong  http://www.openwall.com/john/
[02:37] <randomusr_> Dr_Willis, if I'm not missing the networking applet and battery on the panel, how to restore?
[02:38] <edd_> randomusr_ it's called veejay, but is a version rebuilt for ubuntu from Redhat?? packages... https://launchpad.net/~veejay/+archive/ppa
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | randomusr_
[02:38] <mrandrzejak> where would i input the IP?
[02:38] <mrandrzejak> under find network printer?
[02:39] <cardamon> Hey.  Can someone help me map a compose key on my laptop?
[02:39] <cardamon> I need to get diacritic marks.
[02:39] <randomusr_> Dr_Willis, thanks
[02:40] <mrandrzejak> i can connect no prob with ubuntu to windows :|
[02:40] <cardamon> So can press whatever my compose/dead key is, then ', then e to an accented e.
[02:40] <cardamon> That's what I really need.
[02:40] <randomusr_> edd_, yea.... that's hosted via ppa?
[02:41] <krabador> join #ubuntu-dark
[02:41] <edd_> randomusr_ I think so... admittedly i'm all new to this
[02:41] <YzN> hey
[02:41] <n0a1ias> coz_, im gonna try my hand at ophcrack, ive used it before but on windows 7 and to no avail, but mabey it will work
[02:41] <randomusr_> edd_, refer to the maintainer of the ppa site
[02:41] <YzN> how can I open a file from terminal with admin permission?
[02:42] <YzN> whats the command for that?
[02:42] <undecim> YzN: You mean read a text file? gksu gedit filename
[02:42] <LordNeo> How can i configure a VPN to not change my default gateway? I'm using "sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.X" but the internet goes really slow...
[02:42] <bsmith093> when i search for files, in the "contains the text" field, will that search inside text files, and if i don't enclose in quotes will it do an and search
[02:42] <randomusr_> edd_, it looks as though you trying to do the more complicated before understanding the basics....
[02:42] <YzN> i want to modify etc/network/interfaces.txt
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> YzN:  gksu gedit filename
[02:43] <edd_> randomusr_ I think i found a newer version (requires make install) but the download page says something about migrating to GIT... Does that just mean the page is down?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> actually isent it gksudo ... or are the 2 the same...
[02:43] <undecim> YzN: If you are trying to edit the file and are doing this over SSH or on a computer without a graphical interface, you can do "sudo nano filename"
[02:43] <Tommy3> need help recovering from botched upgrade on 10.04. drops to busybox
[02:43] <YzN> ah okay. can someone please give me the defauly text that was in the filename with no modification? since i changed it and forgot to back it up :(
[02:43] <undecim> YzN: Otherwise, use gksu gedit filename
[02:43] <randomusr_> edd_, that package it built from source (on the fly) and may not include the dependencies..... see google or wikipedia.org for GIT
[02:43] <extraclassic> what's wrong with sudo gedit filename
[02:44] <randomusr_> !git | edd_
[02:44] <undecim> Tommy3: Do you get any helpful errors before being dropped?
[02:44] <LordNeo> :S
[02:45] <edd_> LOL, thought it'd be a simple case of adding the repository and then letting synaptic take care of dependencies. it just appears that the install has dependencies for an old version of the lib
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> extraclassic:  use gksudo for gui apps.. or you can have issues
[02:45] <YzN> thanks and how do we type ^X on a terminal? since that way it doesnt work
[02:45] <smw> Is it possible to purchase a license to use libdvdcss or something on linux? I know of a small OEM who wants to include it.
[02:45] <undecim> YzN: Ctrl+X
[02:45] <YzN> i pressed control S and i dont know if it saved it or not
[02:45] <YzN> ah ok thx
[02:45] <cardamon> Anyone?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> smw:  i belive theres a 'legal' codec pack you can buy. but i never looked into it. 'feundo' or somthing like that was its name
[02:46] <Tommy3> undecim: starts withdeva dm triggeris not prmitted while udev is unconfigured
[02:46] <cardamon> Want to map a dead key to another key.
[02:46] <mrpink57> very odd.  I booted up the new 10.10 beta to install on an old raptor and ubuntu will not reconize it to install.  gparted within the live cd will and allow me to edit the drive.  tried a reboot also.
[02:46] <undecim> cardamon: I think international keyboard layout will do that for you
[02:46] <randomusr_> edd_ i suspect the that installer is prompting you for updating or that it's looking to settings in synaptic to resolve the deps.... Again see the PPA maintainer for help.
[02:46] <undecim> Tommy3: No idea, sorry.
[02:46] <smw> Dr_Willis, thanks. I think this is BS and would never pay for it. But as an OEM, they can't just include it :-\
[02:47] <cardamon> undecim: I don't have a fullkeyboard.  I just want to map a dead key to right control or something similar.
[02:47] <randomusr_> edd_,  or just ask if anyone here has installed veejay successfully
[02:47] <undecim> cardamon: I think xmodmap is used for that, but I don't know much about it
[02:47] <mrandrzejak> how do i know the device URI for the printer?
[02:47] <genpfault> Why won't os-prober run on anything other than partitions on /dev/sda?
[02:47] <coz_> edd_,  I have not installed it  and the ppa seems to be just for ubuntu hardy   I dont know if there are nay updatd ppa's for this on lucid
[02:48] <Tommy3> undecim: additional note ALERT: cannot find /dev/disk/by-vvid....  it's a scsi drive
[02:48] <mrandrzejak> may i should reboot this system
[02:48] <edd_> randomusr_ Thanks for your help, i'll try getting in touch with the PPA maintainer, failing that my *nix savvy mate is back from hols next week so should be able to look in to it
[02:48] <randomusr_> edd_, did the installer say anything about requiring a particular version of glibc?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> smw:  from a legal point of view. they may not be able to include it anyway... (legal things are always so illogical)
[02:48] <undecim> Tommy3: Maybe specifying "root=" on the command line with your root filesystem will help
[02:48] <smw> Dr_Willis, fluendo has a OEM section
[02:49] <randomusr_> edd_,  I think there's some command like whatrequires or something to determine missing deps
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> smw:  but does it actually include dvd.. or is it just other codecs. :)
[02:49] <randomusr_> edd_, anywho, good luck
[02:49] <smw> Dr_Willis, looking
[02:49] <undecim> Tommy3: For example, if your root partition is /dev/sda, add "root=/dev/sda1" in grub
[02:50] <edd_> randomusr_, Thanks dude. Think this needs someone at the keyboard to fiddle!
[02:50] <Tommy3> undecim: all I can do is start up with live cd or boot and get the busybox.  I can access the sda1 drive using the live cd, but dont know what to fix.
[02:51] <smw> Dr_Willis, he is thinking about making a quick script that gives a disclaimer and lets the user install it
[02:52] <Tommy3> undecim: when I have live cd running I can run the disk management tool. That shows the drive and it shows that it has the boot point   (*) on sda1
[02:53] <smw> Dr_Willis, for some reason you are prompted to download codecs. With dvds, you are not told what the problem is.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> smw:  totem has always been weird that way.. one reason i use VLC :)
[02:53] <smw> Dr_Willis, vlc also needs libdvdcss...
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> smw:  if you are lucky it does download the codecs ..
[02:53] <Tommy3> undecim: I said it was scsi.. it is sata.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> smw:  last i checked it was built in.. but i rarely play comercial dvds
[02:54] <smw> Dr_Willis, last I checked, it wasn't...
[02:54] <ilovefairuz> who was asking about MAC spoofing in NM? it's called "Cloned MAC address"
[02:54] <smw> Dr_Willis, someone asked about it here a while ago. And when he installed it it worked.
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> I dont even have any comercial dvds handy to test.
[02:54] <smw> Dr_Willis, nor do I. I pirate anyways. No need to deal with css :-P
[02:55] <sacarlson> Tommy3: what version of ubuntu are you working with?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> but i do recall using vlc on a windows system that wouldent play dvds with WMP.. but that may of auto-installed  the dcss stuff.
[02:55] <Tommy3> sacarlson: 10.04 LTS
[02:55] <sacarlson> Tommy3: new install?
[02:56] <smw> Dr_Willis, I don't know. It could be that ubuntu intentionally does not compile it in.
[02:56] <smw> Dr_Willis, I don't have a windows system handy to test it on...
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> smw:  that also may be the issue.. i always use vlc from various PPA's
[02:57] <sacarlson> Tommy3: I see above it's an upgrade
[02:58] <jangell> apt-get remove apparmor  ...i feel much better now
[02:58] <Tommy3> scarlson: I was thinking it might be running some startup thing to finish the install and failed.
[02:58] <Tommy3> scarlson: I had a sata drive stop working once before. dont know if this is the same problem.
[02:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> !apparmor
[02:58] <Tommy3> scarlson: Yes.  allowed upgrade to run last night and that got it.
[02:59] <jangell> Eryn_1983_FL: and you're referencing that .. why?
[02:59] <sacarlson> Tommy3: can't you try boot the older kernel at boot with grub holding the shift key at boot?
[03:00] <ilovefairuz> jangell: why
[03:01] <jangell> ilovefairuz: because I don't have hte time to figure out why it's so damn restrictive with mysql and file limits
[03:01] <Zeu5> hi there, i need to type some chinese characters in poedit. how do i do that in ubuntu?
[03:01] <Tommy3> scarlson: shift on reboot brings up the same message.  devadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured
[03:01] <Tommy3> scarlson:gave up waiting for root device.
[03:01] <genpfault> HA!
[03:02] <genpfault> figured it out
[03:02] <genpfault> os-prober wasn't seeing my other disks because they still had dmraid "pdc" signatures on them
[03:02] <genpfault> "sudo dmraid -rE" fixed the problem
[03:02] <sacarlson> Tommy3: that's weird.  well you can try lines 3 - 6 of this and see what that does http://paste.ubuntu.com/487214/
[03:03] <ilovefairuz> jangell: you could disable mysql profile only if it's giving you that much headache, if this is just a development machine, don't bother
[03:03] <Tommy3> scarlson: thanks, will go read it.
[03:05] <ilovefairuz> Zeu5: system > preferences > keyboard > layouts
[03:06] <MrPockets> dude
[03:06] <MrPockets> Who is this guy?
[03:06] <Zeu5> ilovefairuz: okie. then?
[03:06] <ilovefairuz> Zeu5: add the chinese layout and switch to it?
[03:07] <kad__> how to add user go group? i try useradd  <user> -g <group> ?
[03:07] <Zeu5> ilovefairuz: oh. erm. is there a way for me to use usa keyboard and then use pinyin to key in the chinese characters?
[03:07] <Random832> you'd have to use an input method
[03:07] <siOuX_> how i delete my less bar under gnome?
[03:07] <Random832> i don't know what the approved ubuntu input method is
[03:07] <BiggFREE> My ext2 and ext3 cannot be read;  What is the problem ?
[03:07] <Random832> SCIM maybe?
[03:07] <Random832> Zeu5: ^
[03:08] <Random832> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[03:09] <kad__> never mind worked
[03:09] <ilovefairuz> Zeu5: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Chinese
[03:09] <BiggFREE> Random832: ?
[03:09] <Random832> BiggFREE: was not talking to you
[03:09] <ilovefairuz> !who | Random832
[03:09] <Random832> you'll need to provide more information
[03:09] <siOuX_> how i remove the less panel under gnome?
[03:09] <BiggFREE> Random832: oK
[03:10] <Random832> ilovefairuz: i did hilight him after with an "^" - and that factoid isn't an excuse for someone who's not being addresed to assume it's them
[03:10] <Random832> BiggFREE: what ext2 and ext3 are you talking abotu
[03:10] <ilovefairuz> siOuX_: your "less" bar?
[03:10] <BiggFREE> Random832: On my sda1
[03:10] <Random832> what error are you getting
[03:11] <ilovefairuz> kad__: useradd -a -G goupname username
[03:11] <BiggFREE> Random832: I forgot (When login my VM on VirtualBox
[03:12] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: then find the exact error message
[03:12] <siOuX_> ilovefairuz, i don't know how i write the word that i need, but the bar isn't the top bar in gnome
[03:12] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Ok
[03:13] <ilovefairuz> siOuX_: you mean a secondary panel? right click and select "delete this pannel"
[03:13] <ilovefairuz> panel **
[03:14] <siOuX_> this menu don't have focus, then i can't click in this
[03:14] <ilovefairuz> !screenshot | siOuX_
[03:15] <kisuke> ok fishing for ideas here, what all would i need for a "cleaner" CD? so far i have clamAV, and GParted. any other ideas on wht i would want/need?
[03:16] <Random832> kisuke: what kind of "cleaner"?
[03:16] <valbaca> kisuke, gparted should be sufficient
[03:16] <PyjamaSpank> I can't see how to stop Skype from loading upon login/startup, It doesn't show up under "startup applications"
[03:17] <coz_> PyjamaSpank,  check in the skype preferences  to see if it has a start up option
[03:17] <kisuke> Random832: to clean up a borked OS, be it win or nix
[03:17]  * Random832 would recommend an install cd
[03:17] <Random832> preferably a livecd so you can also use it to get your data out if you didn't have backups
[03:18] <PyjamaSpank> coz_: It only has start-up minimized but that is unchecked anyway
[03:18] <Random832> eh be back later
[03:18] <valbaca> kisuke, oh, I thought you wanted something to wipe a computer clean.
[03:18] <siOuX_> ilovefairuz,  when i click with right button the PrtScr don't work
[03:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps how is lucid going?
[03:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> yall got the kinks outa it yet?
[03:19] <siOuX_> ilovefairuz,  when i kill the gnome-panel, it reboot and start again.. i dont want that gnome-panel start again
[03:20] <coz_> PyjamaSpank,   ok  open system/preferences/startup applicatoins... click the Options button  and  see if automatically remember running applications when logging out is ticked
[03:20] <Quantum_Ion> Eryn_1983_FL, What kinks ?
[03:20] <coz_> PyjamaSpank,  i think that is still there let me check
[03:20] <valbaca> Eryn_1983_FL, lucid has had a point release (10.04.1) that has helped with a lot of kinks, but I'm not sure exactly which ones you're referring to
[03:20] <kisuke> Random832: install cd is kind of limited in what it can recover from, mainly just missing files or some harddrive corruption
[03:21] <coz_> PyjamaSpank,  if that is not ticked  close ALL applications and tick that box then log out and log in or restart
[03:21] <PyjamaSpank> coz_: I've modified my search term and came back with some results. It says to apply it, then un-tick it. Like you just said. Many thanks for the guidance.
[03:22] <coz_> PyjamaSpank,  hope that works
[03:22] <Zeu5> thanks ilovefairuz and Random832 by some dumb luck i got it to work with ibus
[03:23] <siOuX_> ilovefairuz, i read in the help of gnome bar, and there have one information saying that i can't remove the panel when i have one
[03:25] <ilovefairuz> siOuX_: do you have only one panel?
[03:25] <SuperMiguel> does macbook pro still having issues with linux? where the power manager doesnt work very weel?
[03:25] <SuperMiguel> well*
[03:25] <siOuX_> ilovefairuz, yeah
[03:26] <ilovefairuz> siOuX_: so what secondary panel are you trying to move? do you have one on top and one on bottom?
[03:26] <siOuX_> i want remove all
[03:27] <ilovefairuz> siOuX_: you can set them to autohide
[03:27] <siOuX_> ilovefairuz, that's ok ;)
[03:27] <siOuX_> thankś
[03:28] <coz_> siOuX_,  I know of several ways of doing this ...none are perfect however
[03:29] <ilovefairuz> siOuX_: check Xfce, it's more flexible than GNOME
[03:29] <JAMD456> Can anyone help me, I recently installed Ubuntu and it has been locking up at times, refuses to resume from sleep and Gnome panel does not work correctly, buttons are missing and the network icon does not display the correct status
[03:29] <coz_> siOuX_,   here is a text file... I am warning you that i have not done this in some time so   understand  I catn gurantee   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Gnome%20panel%20Remove
[03:30] <siOuX_> coz thanks
[03:30] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: pastebin: sudo lshw
[03:30] <siOuX_> =)
[03:30] <JAMD456> ok will do
[03:30] <ilovefairuz> !paste | JAMD456
[03:31] <coz_> siOuX_,  if you try this please keep the text file so you can reverse it
[03:33] <JAMD456> Ok here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/487582/
[03:34] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: and make sure you have all the latest updates: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:34] <JPeterson> is there a repository that has libxmlrpc >= 1.11?
[03:38] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: what's the model of your laptop?
[03:38] <spdw> Does anyone know if oauth-python-twitter is being packaged for Ubuntu?  I've been using python-twitter with username/password up until today in my little terminal client I wrote.
[03:38] <JAMD456> HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC
[03:39] <SuperMiguel> any idea on why im getting this: http://pastevin.com/mTuNe7M2
[03:39] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 as VM in VBox is still supporting the resolution 1024*768. Someone was asking about it some days ago. I found out the solution.
[03:39] <SuperMiguel> any idea on why im getting this: http://pastebin.com/mTuNe7M2
[03:39] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: what's the model number?
[03:40] <JAMD456> I am looking for it one second
[03:40] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: then paste the link here
[03:40] <Royall> is there a command that unrars every rar file in a directory (and subdirectories), in-place?
[03:40] <malv> are they going to make a better background for 10.10?
[03:40] <JAMD456> dv6-211sa
[03:41] <JAMD456> Correction dv6-2111sa
[03:41] <bbigras> Someone knows a tutorial to create a DEB when I got an install script provided with the sources?
[03:41] <rww> malv: better than 10.04? no, it's worse.
[03:41] <malv> i can agree that its currently worse
[03:41] <malv> the other backgrounds are better though
[03:42] <JPeterson> is there a repository that has libxmlrpc >= 1.11?
[03:43] <danes_> hello, Im new to servers and I am barely starting. I want to know if it is possible to run ubuntu in live mode as if it would be a pc using a ubuntu server edition cd in a eserver x335?
[03:44] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: lookes like the freezes are related to the broadcom wireless driver
[03:44] <JAMD456> are there any work arounds?
[03:44] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: is there an entry for your broadcom card in system > administration > hardware drivers?
[03:44] <JAMD456> yes there is
[03:44] <etherealite> danes_ The normal isos sure wont give you that option
[03:44] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: is it enabled?
[03:45] <JPeterson> why do I get "Command line option 'i' [from -i] is not known" from "apt-get dpkg -i libxmlrpc-c3_1.16.07-1_amd64.deb"?
[03:45] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Just going in Sypnactic Package Manager and search (virtualbox-guest) and tick all highlight packages (except those ending by source and dksm) for installation and reboot. Then System/Preferences/Motitors and adjust it.
[03:45] <danes_> etherealite, well, is there something I could do?
[03:45] <JAMD456> ilovefairuz: it is
[03:45] <ilovefairuz> JPeterson: remove "apt-get" it's just dpkg -i
[03:45] <Jordan_U> danes_: You would have to make your own remasterd iso, which is not trivial.
[03:45] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Just going in Sypnactic Package Manager and search (virtualbox-guest) and tick all highlight packages (except those ending by source and dksm) for installation and reboot. Then System/Preferences/Monitors and adjust it.
[03:46] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: pastebin: lspci
[03:46] <Jordan_U> !remaster | danes_
[03:46] <JAMD456> ilovefairuz: ok
[03:46] <Coded1> what is the current status of playing Blu Ray / DRM'd video on linux?  building a HTPC want to know my options...
[03:47] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: I cannot do more for now
[03:47] <etherealite> danes_ you could try booting the normal desktop iso and installing apache to the ramdisk.
[03:47] <JAMD456> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487588/
[03:47] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: more of what? I'm not following...
[03:48] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Is there a better way of informing the users ?
[03:49] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: you could make a howto on ubuntu forums
[03:49] <BiggFREE> OK
[03:49] <JPeterson> ilovefairuz: ok, thanks
[03:50] <etherealite> danes_ also try resising your main partition on the server with gparted to make room for a test install
[03:50] <Jordan_U> Coded1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[03:50] <danes_> etherealite, well, I am having some problems since it is not similar to a pc, and I am doing my research...
[03:51] <etherealite> danes_ by pc you mean windows?
[03:51] <Blue1> etherealite: pee cee
[03:51] <danes_> etherealite, not precisely I cannot find any option to boot from CD :S
[03:51] <progre55> hi guys! when you first ssh to a server, it asks if you want to add the server to the list of known hosts. How do you make it accept it by default?
[03:52] <etherealite> danes_ server iso file doesn't have the option
[03:52] <danes_> etherealite, I am trying with a desktop ISO
[03:52] <Blue1> progre55: that's normal - but you can also do this:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=252
[03:52] <progre55> Blue1: thanks, I'll have a look now
[03:53] <etherealite> danes_ is it the 10.4 release?
[03:53] <danes_> etherealite, yes
[03:53] <etherealite> danes_ then its there, its called something like "try ubuntu without installing" or something to that effect.
[03:53] <heizmann> Hi all
[03:54] <thepittman> where are some good online resources to learn about linux OS's?
[03:54] <penguin_linux_10> hello!
[03:54] <thepittman> hi
[03:54] <danes_> etherealite, thanks for your help, but I mean, I cannot find how to select the cdrom drive to boot first
[03:55] <thepittman> its in your BIOS
[03:55] <penguin_linux_10> how is everyone ?
[03:55] <thepittman> what BIOS do you have?
[03:55] <progre55> Blue1: well, it's about rsa auth. I've already done it.. but I was wondering if there's a switch in the ssh command that automatically accepts the server fingerprint without asking..
[03:55] <danes_> mtpbios-im5
[03:55] <etherealite> danes_ well that beyond the area covered by this channel
[03:55] <danes_> 0
[03:55] <thepittman> i'm going penguin
[03:56] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: unable to find a workaround, use a usb wireless stick if you have one
[03:56] <ratdog> got this error...  Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[03:56] <ratdog> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:56] <penguin_linux_10> has any one been " made fun of" since they use Linux?
[03:56] <crohakon> Penguins are cute...
[03:56] <JAMD456> ilovefairuz: Will do, do you have any recommendations?
[03:56] <etherealite> danes_ your going to have to go to a channel thats dedicated to whatever hardware your using.
[03:56] <heizmann> A question concerning to the possibility to send periodicaly a message (probably a POST request, but I'm not sure) for ident my access of the web behind a "captive portal"
[03:57] <heizmann> Here's js requests:  http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96094
[03:57] <penguin_linux_10> crohakon: yes, yes they are
[03:57] <ilovefairuz> JAMD456: i simply buy hardware with good driver support, mostly intel stuff
[03:57] <thepittman> i have punched Blue Force trackers because the run linux on the slowest possible system
[03:57] <danes_> mptbios--im5.03.10
[03:57] <heizmann> (I've got http headers too :) )
[03:58] <JAMD456> ilovefairuz: Ok thank you
[03:58] <ilovefairuz> !hardware > JAMD456
[03:59] <heizmann> Thank in advance for your help :)
[04:00] <mobasher_> ilovefairuz>> i thought amd was good at support for linux
[04:00] <CycleGeek> Updated to Ubuntu 10.10 Beta. Is the libgirepository update suppose to install so many kde/qt packages and remove gnome packages?
[04:00] <xangua> !MAVERICK | CycleGeek
[04:00] <ratdog> is it ok to purge this source, Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[04:01] <ratdog> is it inportant
[04:01] <ratdog> m
[04:01] <xangua> ratdog: that ppa no longer exists
[04:01] <ratdog> how can i purge it
[04:01] <heizmann> nobody has any idea to xolve my problem?
[04:01] <xangua> with ppa-purge
[04:01] <xangua> ratdog*
[04:02] <heizmann> solve*
[04:02] <xangua> ratdog: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-vlc-114-in-ubuntu-via-new-ppa.html
[04:02] <ratdog>  ppa-purge http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[04:03] <crohakon> The only thing cuter than a penguin is a broken window.
[04:06] <heizmann> :) I would send a msg via http, to automatise my connection across a captive portal. Please, nobody has an idea? (with curl for example?)
[04:06] <disappearedng> Hey I am trying to reinstall my codecs, cause my video doesn't have sound. when I do a `sudo apt-get install --reinstall gstreamer*` I am getting this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/257891/ any help?
[04:06] <brunner> I installed Ubuntu on a thinkpad a few days ago.  All seemed to work fine, but now, when I boot up, grub loads, and it seems to start booting into Ubuntu, but I end up with a blank black screen.  Any ideas why this could be happening?
[04:07] <brunner> I never hear the african drums or anything like that
[04:07] <brunner> it seems to stop before the login stuff loads
[04:07] <brunner> I just end up with a blank screen
[04:07] <disappearedng> brunner: paste your xorg.conf ? if it's a blank screen probably your video driver is messed up did you do an update before you quit?
[04:08] <brunner> disappearedng: I guess I should get that by booting with a live cd?
[04:09] <disappearedng> um I would modify the grub menu and then boot into recovery console
[04:09] <heizmann> : http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96097
[04:09] <disappearedng> you know how to do that?
[04:09] <brunner> disappearedng: no, but I'll google it and figure it out
[04:09] <disappearedng> yeah
[04:10] <disappearedng> and then what you normally can do, is to move xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak, then reboot, and ubuntu will automatically figure out the best settings
[04:11] <heizmann> :-/ nobody for helping me to solve my pb?
[04:11] <disappearedng> I have no idea what you are trying to do
[04:12] <brunner> disappearedng: you're not talking about the recovery option in the grub boot menu, right?
[04:12] <disappearedng> I am talking about the recovery option in the grub boot menu
[04:12] <brunner> heizmann: be patient, please.
[04:12] <disappearedng> when ou use that, you will be booted into a console
[04:12] <brunner> disappearedng: oh, okay.  that results in the same blank screen.
[04:12] <heizmann> brunner ^^ sorry...
[04:12] <disappearedng> hm, let me see
[04:13] <brunner> heizmann: no worries.  also, it may help to ask a clear question, rather than just pasting a link, if you haven't already
[04:13] <disappearedng> brunner: you tried getting into "recovery mode"??
[04:13] <disappearedng> and get a blank screen?
[04:14] <brunner> disappearedng: yes, I just tried again
[04:14] <disappearedng> ok wait
[04:14] <disappearedng> I was diagnosing your problem with this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357908
[04:14] <disappearedng> but if you can't even boot into your recovery mode
[04:14] <disappearedng> it means that it might be something fundamentally messed up
[04:14] <disappearedng> try booting with liveCD
[04:14] <disappearedng> give the recovery mode a try 1 more tie
[04:14] <brunner> perhaps so.  it's a relatively new install.
[04:14] <disappearedng> time
[04:15] <brunner> let me find an optical drive, as the computer I'm using right now doesn't have one
[04:15] <heizmann> brunner :) okay, question is: how to send a request for a direct connection without using the "web page" (I'm connecting Internet behind a captive portal)
[04:15] <heizmann> brunner maybe by using curl? :-| but I'm not sure
[04:16] <brunner> heizmann: I don't really understand what you mean by a "request for a direct connection"
[04:16] <brunner> heizmann: can you be more specific, and provide some context?
[04:16] <disappearedng> heizmann you know python?
[04:16] <disappearedng> i think he wants wget
[04:16] <disappearedng> or curl will work too
[04:16] <disappearedng> use curl
[04:16] <brunner> ah
[04:16] <heizmann> brunner sorry... :-/ no for Python...
[04:16] <brunner> but wouldn't the captive portal get in the way
[04:16] <disappearedng> he wants to "send a web request"
[04:17] <disappearedng> what's the captive portal
[04:17] <brunner> heizmann: don't be sorry. I jut want to understand your question.
[04:17] <brunner> oh, a web request
[04:18] <brunner> heizmann: if you're just trying to send an HTTP GET request, wget should indeed do the trick fine.
[04:18] <pfifo> When i try to install libgtk2.0-dev i get errors saying "unresolved dependencies" what dose that mean?
[04:19] <brunner> disappearedng: what should I do once I boot from the live cd?  I have windows installed on this laptop, as well -- could I do it from there if I install ext drivers in windows?
[04:19] <Seven_Six_Two> unity messed up my gnome. all of the menus (file, edit, view etc) for each program are in the panel like they are for mac. is there an easy fix? the menus are per program, and they're missing in the program window.
[04:19] <heizmann> brunner the context: when I want to connect a Internet, I must use a browser, like firefox; I have to fill the fields like my login and password, and confirm the charter of Service.
[04:20] <disappearedng> brunner: ok I am not really 100% sure with this, but I would liek to see what other people are saying as well. "So I would recommend you to mount your ubuntu parition and mv xorg.conf" NOTE THAT I AM NOT 100% SURE THAT's a good idea and I would really recommend you to ask for a third opinion
[04:20] <disappearedng> because that might seriosuly mess up your partition
[04:20] <heizmann> brunner Saisissez du texte, l'adresse d'un site Web ou importez un document à traduire.
[04:20] <heizmann> Annuler
[04:20] <heizmann> Écouter
[04:20] <heizmann> Traduction (français > anglais)
[04:20] <heizmann> I wish I could connect to the Internet without fulfilling this page in my web browser.
[04:20] <FloodBot2> heizmann: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <heizmann> brunner I wish I could connect to the Internet without fulfilling this page in my web browser.
[04:22] <brunner> well, worst case scenerio, I could reinstall ubuntu
[04:22] <brunner> I just hate not knowing what went wrong.
[04:22] <pfifo> When i try to install libgtk2.0-dev i get errors saying "unresolved dependencies" what dose that mean?
[04:22] <brunner> heizmann: You just need a script or browser plug in that fills in the info for you, then?
[04:25] <heizmann> brunner yeah, but a script or a command like "curl blablabla" (cron would be suffer after that, because I'm regulary disconnected by the service)
[04:25] <gogeta> flgh
[04:25] <gogeta> wake up room
[04:26] <cmecca> hey all -- where/what is adding all of the Welcom to Ubuntu Server stuff to the default motd.. the sys information... the landscape ad etc
[04:27] <cmecca> ive removed update-notifier-common etc and gutted /etc/motd but no go
[04:27] <cmecca> keeps coming back
[04:27] <pfifo> seriously, is the US repository down or something? I can install ANYTHING with apt-get
[04:27] <Muscovy> Could someone tell me how to make 'date' produce spaces? (ex: Month Day)
[04:27] <pfifo> can't*
[04:28] <Flannel> cmecca: Have you checked /etc/update-motd.d/ ?
[04:28] <pfifo> Muscovy: 'man date' the manual has info on how to format it
[04:28] <cmecca> Flannel: i purged update-motd package.. .should i delete the entire dir?
[04:29] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[04:29] <Muscovy> pfifo: I read that, and the only thing I can see is %_m or something, but it can't be used with ordinary text, just the % vars.
[04:29] <JPeterson> what's the point of /usr/local?
[04:30] <JPeterson> rtorrent make install moved the exe to /usr/local/bin
[04:30] <cmecca> Flannel: still w/ me? :P
[04:30] <cmecca> or did you get split
[04:30] <Flannel> cmecca: Yeah, checking package contents
[04:30] <pfifo> Muscovy: put it in quotes '+ %m %d %Y'
[04:30] <cmecca> Flannel: oh oh cool thanks :)  wondering if you get vaporized in the split is all F:
[04:31] <llight> I can't get into my synaptic
[04:31] <Muscovy> Thanks pfifo, got it!
[04:31] <gogeta> lol
[04:31] <llight> everytime I enter my password, nothing pops up
[04:31] <flea> does anyone here use ekiga.net sip?
[04:31] <progre55> hey guys, I was wondering if there's a switch in the ssh command that automatically accepts the server fingerprint without asking if I want to add it to the list of known hosts.. any suggestions, please?
[04:31] <pfifo> is 10.04.1 considered unstable?
[04:32] <cmecca> Flannel: i mv'd the directory not rm.. and it fixed the motd problem :)
[04:32] <Flannel> cmecca: Don't move the directory, just remove the stuff in it if you'd like.
[04:32] <Flannel> cmecca: Other packages might add things to that directory, etc.
[04:32] <cmecca> roger.
[04:32] <pfifo> how come know one ever knows the answers to my questions?
[04:32] <heizmann> :-( sorry I was disconnected
[04:33] <cmecca> thanks guys
[04:33] <heizmann> brunner sorry I was disconnected...
[04:33] <divecks_> Hey everyone.
[04:33] <Name141> !silverlight
[04:34] <Name141> Will "Moonlight" let me watch stuff off of netflix stream ?
[04:34] <Flannel> pfifo: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev && sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev`
[04:39] <h4ever> hi, guys,  i setup a tftp service with xinetd, but it's only can be used by local user, when i try to get a file from another machine, it's just time out
[04:39] <llight> synaptic packet manager won't open for me?
[04:39] <h4ever> any suggestion?
[04:40] <heizmann> up: I wish I could connect to the Internet without completing the login page in my Internet Explorer (I'm behind a captive portal). I understand he had to send a query periodically, with "curl" for example. Someone there may be an idea?
[04:40] <llight> synaptic package manager won't open for me?
[04:40] <h4ever> i run a tcpdump on the server side , and i can see the request..
[04:43] <pfifo> Flannel, im sorry, something happened and my screen went black and the system locked up, can you press up a few times and tell me that command again
[04:44] <sirninja> how can I install the proprietary broadcom wireless driver without an internet connection?
[04:44] <llight> synaptic package manager won't open for me?
[04:44] <llight> synaptic package manager the gui isn't displaying
[04:44] <thou> llight: try opening a terminal window (Applications ... Accessories .. Terminal), then type 'synaptic' and hit enter.
[04:45] <thou> it should give a notice that it is running without special privileges in read-only mode -- does that work?
[04:45] <llight> thou that worked
[04:45] <llight> thou: How come its not working from the menu
[04:45] <thou> llight: ok, next step:  quit that, and run:  gksudo synaptic
[04:46] <thou> it should ask you for your password, and then open synaptic with full privs
[04:46] <llight> thou: nothing came up
[04:46] <thou> huh
[04:47] <thou> llight: try:  gksudo -d synaptic
[04:47] <thou> (-d for debugging)
[04:47] <llight> ok
[04:48] <JPeterson> anyone used rutorrent?
[04:48] <EvilPhoenix> JPeterson:  no
[04:48] <llight> thou: it got me in that time
[04:48] <JPeterson> why are the settings ignored or forgotten?
[04:48] <spoc> How do I customized Gdm
[04:48] <thou> llight: hurm, that's weird
[04:48] <llight> thou: let me try from the menu again
[04:48] <thou> spoc: you are on lucid?
[04:49] <spoc> yeah i am using lucid
[04:49] <h4ever> any suggestion about the tftp question ??
[04:49] <llight> thou: Yea thanks, whatever you did now its letting me in
[04:50] <nightshade> hey, anybody here that knows how to hustle warez on the street?  I figured since everyone's doing it on the internet, nobody's looking for it in the actual world.  But, i can't seem to find the "crowd" that would buy it from me
[04:50] <thou> spoc: i think you can do it like this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9068333#post9068333
[04:50] <llight> Another question, I want to burn a .avi file onto a DVD. I can't seem to get it done with linux
[04:50] <Flannel> pfifo: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev && sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev`
[04:50] <thou> llight: i don't think i did anything....
[04:51] <EvilPhoenix> oyi ops!  nightshade is in violation of channel policies!
[04:51] <nightshade> really?
[04:51] <thou> h4ever: sorry, i'm not so good w/ that question, good luck tho
[04:51] <wbiesing> Hi all.  I'm having some issues with Dell's Hardware RAID controller, Ubuntu 10.04, Dell T3500.  Is this the right place to ask?
[04:52] <nightshade> sorry, but i can't find a channel where it would be relevant.  (And my xchat crashes when i try to switch servers)
[04:52] <MaRk-I> !warez > nightshade
[04:52] <EvilPhoenix> nightshade:  anything relating to warez is not discussed publicly on freenode
[04:53] <h4ever> thou:   :)
[04:53] <nightshade> well, can somebody tell me how to stop xchat from crashing when i try switching servers?
[04:53] <EvilPhoenix> nightshade:  try disconnecting first then switching servers...?
[04:53] <Bm10> anyone having problem with update to 10.04 lts
[04:53] <EvilPhoenix> nightshade:  or open multiple server tabs
[04:53] <llight> I get an error all required applications and libraries are not installed?
[04:53] <heizmann> up: I wish I could connect to the Internet without completing the login page in my Internet Explorer (I'm behind a captive portal). I understand he had to send a query periodically, with "curl" for example. Someone there may be an idea?
[04:54] <chris_osx> nightshade: why are you asking that on #ubuntu?
[04:54] <nightshade> actually, it crashes when i try to list channels
[04:54] <Bm10> really
[04:54] <EvilPhoenix> nightshade:  thats because you dont do /list on freenode
[04:54] <EvilPhoenix> nightshade:  lrn2use alis: /msg alis help list
[04:54] <heizmann> Here's js functions: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96094 and the HTTP headers to send: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96097
[04:55] <Random832> what is an alis?
[04:55] <EvilPhoenix> Random832:  something existing on freenode... to search channels.
[04:55] <nightshade> well, after i switched to efnet, first i tried the dialog, which made it crash, then it also crashed when i did /list
[04:55] <zimke> hey all, I'm looking for some help installing ubuntu to an external drive
[04:55] <EvilPhoenix> nightshade:  because efnet also has an insane long list of channels
[04:55] <Random832> EvilPhoenix: why not just overload the /list command with parameters?
[04:55] <EvilPhoenix> nightshade:  it crashes because it overloads
[04:55] <Random832> undernet oes it i think
[04:56] <sreeraj> Am i connected?
[04:56] <EvilPhoenix> Random832:  because this isnt undernet
[04:56] <chris_osx> sreeraj: seems so
[04:56] <Random832> but my point is, why a separate service process?
[04:56] <IdleOne> Random832: ask in #freenode what the logic was
[04:56] <trollboy> is there an easy way to append txt to each line, and then append something else to the end of each line in a txt file?
[04:56] <Random832> i don't care that much
[04:56] <trollboy> I thought sed did something like that
[04:56] <Phantom27> I have a binary file that I want to know how to install
[04:56] <Random832> trollboy: you can do sed s/$/blah/
[04:56] <Trailmix> does anyone know where I can find a driver for a netgear wna3100 that works with ndiswrapper?
[04:56] <sreeraj> Hey, at my college it is not showing the update to 10.04. why it is so?
[04:57] <sreeraj> Is there anyway to play AOE2 in linux?
[04:57] <nightshade> well, i tried installing a console irc client like ircii, but now i don't have a handy list servers and a search dialog to find a channel
[04:57] <mtx_init> sreeraj: wine
[04:57] <bilal> hy can anybody tell me how to access modem?
[04:57] <sreeraj> not possible
[04:57] <thou> zimke: i think you might want to use the alternate install cd -- i just got that to work installing to a pre-made LVM partition, so it's pretty flexible in its manual partitioning.
[04:58] <trollboy> Random832, what well sed s/$/bleh/ do?
[04:58] <thou> zimke: i guess you'd then just install grub to the MBR of the external disk; at the end of the install process it asks you for where to put grub, and it would be something like /dev/sdb, i guess
[04:58] <wbiesing> Hi all. I'm having some issues with Dell's Hardware RAID controller, Ubuntu 10.04, Dell T3500. Is this the right place to ask?
[04:58] <zimke> thou: so I'd need to use the installer on the alt install cd and not the live cd?
[04:58] <Random832> trollboy: it will add stuff to the end of each line
[04:59] <Phantom27> Can anybody help me install a perl script
[04:59] <thou> zimke: i'm not positive that it's impossible from the live cd installer, but i found the alternate installer much easier to use for manual partitioning
[05:00] <trollboy> "blah" being what its adding?
[05:00] <zimke> thou: I havn't spent too much time working with the live cd installer, but its not even recognizing my external. I'll try out the alt installer. thanks for your help!
[05:00] <Phantom27> Am I even posting?
[05:00] <IdleOne> Phantom27: we see you
[05:01] <Phantom27> thanks
[05:01] <thou> zimke: good luck!
[05:01] <thou> trollboy: yeah
[05:03] <illmortal> Anyone know a good distro that's pretty bare? I have an OQO (micro hand held PC) and I will primarily use it for playing music and surfing the net.
[05:03] <IdleOne> illmortal: try ##linux
[05:03] <Trailmix> illmortal, is slack still around?
[05:03] <mtx_init> DSL maybe
[05:04] <llight> Another question, I want to burn a .avi file onto a DVD. I can't seem to get it done with linux?
[05:04] <Spaztic_One> illmortal: Also, before you get too far into it, might want to check into your wireless nic. Might cause a major hassle for you.
[05:04] <llight> Another question, I want to burn a .avi file onto a DVD. I can't seem to get it done with Brasero?
[05:04] <IdleOne> llight: try gnomebaker
[05:05] <llight> idleone: Ok
[05:05] <APERSON> would it be safe if I did a sudo aptitude pure -deb? ?
[05:05] <thou> Question:  i have a trackball, and am trying to get EmulateWheel in evdev to work.  I had it working fine in Arch Linux; the right stuff is showing up in Xorg.3.log; and xinput list-props "Logitech USB Trackball" shows that EmulateWheelButton stuff is set.  but it has no effect.  paste of xorg.conf, etc., at:  http://friendpaste.com/5goKAdlqGGPrL4HIGzZxq8
[05:05] <APERSON> err
[05:05] <APERSON> -dev?
[05:05] <illmortal> oh.. DSL looks promising
[05:05] <IdleOne> APERSON: pure?
[05:05] <APERSON> IdleOne, d'oh: sudo aptitude purge -dev?
[05:06] <Spaztic_One> I need to set a custom keyboard shortcut, particularly for adjusting the brightness of my display. I need either the command for doing such, or where I can locate it (and maybe other useful commands as well)
[05:06] <IdleOne> APERSON: you want to purge all the -dev packages?
[05:06] <APERSON> IdleOne, yes
[05:06] <IdleOne> APERSON: if they are installed they are probably needed
[05:06] <thou> Spaztic_One: you can find what the key code is by running xev
[05:07] <APERSON> IdleOne, I installed a bunch with build-deps, and can't seem to find a way to purge them all easily
[05:07] <thou> focus the xev window, and press the key
[05:07] <thou> then you can add shortcuts the usual way - if you're using regular ubuntu, then probably via System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts .. Add ..
[05:08] <IdleOne> APERSON: hmm I'm not sure but sudo aptitude purge *-dev , could cause some apps to not work anymore though
[05:08] <Spaztic_One> Its not detecting the keystroke for one, and two I need to know what the command itself is
[05:08] <APERSON> IdleOne, what would need a dev package?  I'm not compiling anything right now
[05:08] <thou> Spaztic_One: xev doesn't show anything when you press the key?
[05:09] <Spaztic_One> thou: I'm using a laptop and the function key combinations don't all seem to work.
[05:09] <illmortal> Spaztic_One ya.. it seems that Linux in general does not like Broadcom 4318 wireless cards -.-
[05:09] <thou> Spaztic_One: oh, ok.  what laptop? you may need some driver for it.
[05:09] <APERSON> IdleOne, ok, howabout, how can I reverse an: aptitude build-dep pidgin
[05:10] <keroro_10> Hello! Does anyone have any idea how I could enable the wireless drivers on my new HP Mini 110? I installed 10.04-netbook remixed and everything works great except the wireless :-(
[05:10] <Spaztic_One> thou: Compaq presario CQ50. Also, some of them do work as intended, but it may just be a fluke.
[05:10] <Spaztic_One> things like the volume and mute, as well as the play/pause and skip track all work
[05:11] <mneptok> keroro_10: connect it via a wired connection and go to System > Admin > Hardware drivers
[05:11] <Spaztic_One> And using the pseudo number pad just flat out behaves in a bizarre manner.
[05:11] <heizmann> Here's js functions: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96094 and the HTTP headers to send: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96097
[05:12] <heizmann> up: I wish I could connect to the Internet without completing the login page in my Internet Explorer (I'm behind a captive portal). I understand he had to send a query periodically, with "curl" for example. Someone there may be an idea?
[05:12] <Spaztic_One> Such as it doesn't get recognized by random programs, or for certain things in specific programs. Dwarf Fortress for example.
[05:12] <keroro_10> mneptok: Searching for drivers… Says there are no drivers available (Help - Close)
[05:12] <trollboy> ok, so I used Random832's sed command to add txt to the end of each line of my file
[05:12] <trollboy> about about to add it to the beginning?
[05:12] <keroro_10> (I installed it in french so I hope I opened the right app…)
[05:12] <thou> trollboy: use s/^/blah/
[05:13] <thou> Spaztic_One: hrm, sorry, i'm not finding anything....
[05:14] <Spaztic_One> Hmm... well, if the xev program doesn't detect a keystroke, then I can't use that.
[05:14] <albuz> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 10.10b... how do I rename my computer? It's something like albuz-desktop
[05:14] <keroro_10> mneptok: that's the icon that looks like a PCI card with a lock on it, right?
[05:14] <rww> albuz: Maverick support and discussion in #ubuntu+1, not here, please.
[05:15] <Spaztic_One> rww, I'm using 10.04 and I would also like to know how to change the name of my laptop
[05:15] <albuz> oh sorry
[05:15] <avi_> How can I see a list of my installed PPAs, outside of the Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:15] <saganbyte> Hi, how do I install a software which has a file called install-sh?
[05:15] <Spaztic_One> I typoed and haven't been able to fix it >.<
[05:15] <rww> ubottu: tell Spaztic_One about hostname
[05:15] <IdleOne> APERSON: sorry I stepped away for a moment, I don't know the answer to your question.
[05:15] <Spaztic_One> Thank you.
[05:16] <valbaca> saganbyte, chmod +x install.sh && ./install-sh
[05:17] <thou> trollboy: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
[05:17] <valbaca> makes it executable, then runs it
[05:17] <saganbyte> valbaca, thanks man!
[05:17] <valbaca> np
[05:18] <saganbyte> valbaca, i get - ./install-sh: no input file specified.
[05:19] <Spaztic_One> rww, if sudo may misbehave during the name change, and sudo is required to open the files for editing... how do I change both of them?
[05:19] <thou> valbaca: i think the install-sh is a red herring
[05:19] <valbaca> saganbyte, can you tell me the software so I can take a look?
[05:19] <thou> valbaca: do you see a file called 'configure' there?
[05:19] <saganbyte> code-blocks
[05:19] <rww> Spaztic_One: edit /etc/hosts first and give it entries for the new hostname /and/ the old one
[05:20] <thou> oops
[05:20] <Spaztic_One> Ah, ok. Thank you.
[05:20] <thou> saganbyte: do you see a file called 'configure' there?
[05:20] <saganbyte> thou, yes there is one
[05:20] <etherealite> why does this sudo config directive not work? %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:20] <thou> saganbyte: ok, this is probably a source package.  so you have to compile it first, then you can install it
[05:20] <saganbyte> thou, i see
[05:21] <thou> saganbyte: you must have development tools installed first; then you probably run:  ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install
[05:21] <valbaca> saganbyte, you can also just sudo apt-get install codeblocks (if you haven't already tried)
[05:21] <saganbyte> valbaca, oh yes of course
[05:22] <saganbyte> thou, i ve just installed libtool
[05:22] <saganbyte> thou, maybe i ll need some more
[05:22] <thou> saganbyte: yeah, probably you will; you can apt-get install build-essentials to start with
[05:22] <raj_> hey NK you there?
[05:22] <saganbyte> thou, ok
[05:22] <thou> saganbyte: but ... be prepared for a fun evening's worth of learning ;-)
[05:23]  * valbaca watches thou take it nicely from here :)
[05:23] <saganbyte> thou, that is exactly the objective :)
[05:23] <saganbyte> thou, i m not a C/C++ programmer... just installing this thing i got from a linux magazine to learn installing from src
[05:24] <Spaztic_One> rww, and I would assume a restart is required? if not, what is the command to reload the hostname?
[05:24] <rww> Spaztic_One: I think so, yes. I haven't done it in a while, can't remember.
[05:25] <osiris> is there a seperate netbook channel ?
[05:25] <Spaztic_One> ok, thank you.
[05:25] <rww> osiris: no
[05:25] <raj_> NK you there?
[05:25] <etherealite> why does this sudo config directive not work? %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:25] <YourRuler101> hello?
[05:25] <valbaca> hi! | YourRuler101
[05:25] <raj_> hello YourRuler101
[05:25] <YourRuler101> hey raj!
[05:25] <YourRuler101> found ya
[05:26] <YourRuler101> i had to install xchat
[05:26] <raj_> YourRuler101:  cool okay now lets soft this out
[05:26] <YourRuler101> ok
[05:26] <raj_> YourRuler101:  oh i thought it came preinstalled on ubuntu :S mybad sorry
[05:26] <Flannel> etherealite: Are you in the admin group?
[05:26] <YourRuler101> its alright i figured it out.
[05:26] <osiris> so how the heck do you mount a samba share in netbook 10.04, other than via cli and the whole mess
[05:26] <raj_> YourRuler101:  you come here for your ubuntu support :) okay  now go to the terminal and type: lspci
[05:26] <saganbyte> thou, after trying to configure , i get stuff like checking for g++... no checking for c++... no, etc... should i install these individually?
[05:27] <YourRuler101> ok
[05:27] <raj_> YourRuler101:  after you do that copy and paste the output in pastebin.org  and give me the link so you dont flood the chatroom
[05:27] <etherealite> Flannel yes I am admin:x:114:etherealite
[05:27] <YourRuler101> kk
[05:27] <pfifo> Flannel, sorry, i hope your still here, lets try this once more
[05:27] <Flannel> etherealite: If you type 'groups' are you in admin?
[05:28] <Flannel> pfifo: Please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev && sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev`
[05:28] <thou> saganbyte: g++ is part of gcc package
[05:28] <fryan> anybody help me?
[05:28] <saganbyte> thou, ok
[05:28] <valbaca> ask! | fryan
[05:28] <etherealite> Flannel etherealite sudo www-data video pulse pulse-access admin kvm libvirtd
[05:28] <Flannel> fryan: It's best to just ask your question, and if anyone knows, they'll answer.
[05:28] <YourRuler101> one sec xD
[05:28] <pfifo> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/9bEzKRVp
[05:28] <Flannel> etherealite: Alright.  If you switch %admin for your username, does it work?
[05:29] <Flannel> New Design: The boot process is cleaner and faster. New themes, new
[05:29] <Flannel> icons, and new wallpaper bring a dramatically updated look and feel to
[05:29] <Flannel> Blah
[05:29] <Flannel> sorry.
[05:29] <FloodBot3> Flannel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <fryan> how to connet windows mobile on ubuntu 10.10
[05:29] <etherealite> Flannel do I have to logout to test it?
[05:29] <fryan> beta
[05:29] <YourRuler101> Raj: when i type in pastebin.org it dont load the page
[05:29] <Dasda> I need your help guys, would really appreciate some advice. I need to get a laptop for school, I am just wondering whether I should get a cheap $500 laptop like a acer/gateway or even dell inspiron for $600. Or on the other side, should I get a Lenovo for $1000?
[05:29] <mmcr> Hi, I'm interested in adopting a package and I need a little bit of orientation. I've been trying to contact certain people but I haven't been able. Anybody here that might help? I'm looking for an app based on python. Thanks!
[05:29] <Flannel> etherealite: Nope.
[05:29] <pfifo> FloodBot3, no u, Flannel is allowed to flood
[05:29] <raj_> YourRuler101:  its www.pastebin.org
[05:30] <Dasda> I know my question is not ubuntu related but I dont know any other place to discuss computers
[05:30] <thou> Question:  i have a trackball, and am trying to get EmulateWheel in evdev to work.  I had it working fine in Arch Linux; the right stuff is showing up in Xorg.3.log; and xinput list-props "Logitech USB Trackball" shows that EmulateWheelButton stuff is set.  but it has no effect.  paste of xorg.conf, etc., at:  http://friendpaste.com/5goKAdlqGGPrL4HIGzZxq8
[05:30] <fryan> how to connet windows mobile on ubuntu
[05:30] <fryan> how to connect windows mobile on ubuntu
[05:30] <YourRuler101> Raj: Unable to connect to Data base
[05:30] <raj_> YourRuler101:  or try www.pastebin.com <<< another site
[05:30] <YourRuler101> k
[05:30] <Flannel> pfifo: Alright, please pastebin the output of: `apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 libglib2.0-dev libpango1.0-dev libatk1.0-dev libcairo2-dev`
[05:31] <Flannel> etherealite: What command are you trying to run (to test if it's working) by the way?
[05:31] <raj_> YourRuler101:  submit it and give me the URL from the address bar after you submit
[05:31] <etherealite> Flannel /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[05:31] <valbaca> Dasda, can I pm you?
[05:31] <fryan> Flannel: can u help me pls?
[05:31] <Dasda> Valbaca: ofcourse
[05:31] <pfifo> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/2c8ZLbCP
[05:31] <YourRuler101> Raj: http://pastebin.com/csbg57Fx
[05:32] <Flannel> etherealite: You need to use sudo (sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start), the sudoers thing will allow sudo to function without the password, but you still need the sudo.
[05:32] <raj_> YourRuler101:  thank you gimme 1 sec to look at it
[05:32] <etherealite> Flannel I did prended 'sudo' to that command
[05:32] <etherealite> Flannel *prepend
[05:33] <Flannel> pfifo: Alright, at some point in the past you had lucid-updates enabled, do you know why you disabled them?
[05:33] <Flannel> etherealite: And what did it say about it? (what error?)
[05:34] <thou> fryan: sorry, i don't know how to help you with that.
[05:34] <fryan> okay thanks thou
[05:34] <raj_> YourRuler101:  you are on a laptop? its integrated intel chipset not ATI sorry i was wrong ..
[05:34] <raj_> YourRuler101:  let me find something for you
[05:34] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to place a volume icon on the panel that will show me the volume level???
[05:34] <YourRuler101> raj_: its alright, and yes..... dell inpiron
[05:34] <etherealite> Flannel it made me type a password
[05:34] <YourRuler101> raj_: k i will wait
[05:34] <pfifo> Flannel, i disable anything related to updates on my parents machine cause they cant do that, and just update them when ever i come around (were working on that box with this issue)
[05:35] <mmcr> Hi, I'm interested in adopting a package and I need a little bit of orientation. I've been trying to contact certain people but I haven't been able. Anybody here that might help? I'm looking for an app based on python. Thanks!
[05:35] <raj_> YourRuler101:  do you boot in low graphics? and does compiz work?
[05:35] <YourRuler101> umm idk never tried xD
[05:35] <YourRuler101> raj_: i will try hold on a sec
[05:35] <X_Tech__> how install flashget in ubuntu
[05:36] <raj_> YourRuler101:  okz ..
[05:36] <Flannel> pfifo: Alright, well the issue comes from the fact that at one point -updates was enabled, and you have some versions of things from -updates which aren't playing well with things from plain 'lucid'.  If you re-enable -updates and do the instlal, you should be fine (this won't force you to do all of the updates, by the way)
[05:36] <Flannel> pfifo: also, if the internet is the issue, you might try downloading the 10.04.1 alternate CD and bringing that to their computer to upgrade from.  It'll make you up-to-date as of a few weeks ago.
[05:36] <YourRuler101> raj_: i tried to open it but nadda
[05:37] <shaw1337> Hi all do we have an openoffice channel ?
[05:37] <Flannel> pfifo: (of course, if it's just bandwidth in general, and not on a particular computer, the alternate CD will likely be larger than just downloading the updates)
[05:37] <YourRuler101> raj_: Wait NVM it opened xDD
[05:37] <pfifo> Flannel, i didnt realize that thing would NOT update if you turned the updates off. I just installed 10.04.1 with the i386 desktop cd. No they have fast internet (but a crap machine)
[05:37] <Flannel> shaw1337: #OpenOffice.org
[05:38] <thou> tucemiux: happens by default in regular ubuntu -- should show up in the system notifications icons area
[05:38] <etherealite> Flannel didn't work
[05:38] <Flannel> pfifo: Well, it'll update from whatever repositories it has.  If the repositories never get updated (because -updates and -security are turned off) then you won't ever have anything to upgrade to.
[05:38] <thou> tucemiux: i'm not sure which app does it, though -- i think it's part of pulseaudio server
[05:39] <etherealite> Flannel this doesn't work: etherealite ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:39] <raj_> YourRuler101:  did it work ?
[05:39] <YourRuler101> raj_: CompizConfig opened.... i believe that is what you were looking for?
[05:39] <logan_wolf> hi
[05:39] <tucemiux> thou, its not working on my ubuntu, what's the name of the icon that normal ubuntu uses?
[05:40] <raj_> YourRuler101:  no i meant go on your desktop > right click > properties > visual > and put effects on
[05:40] <thou> tucemiux: Indicator Applet 0.3.7
[05:40] <pfifo> Flannel, why isnt -updates and -security listed in the software sources gui?
[05:40] <raj_> YourRuler101:  i wanna see if compiz loads at all
[05:40] <tucemiux> thou, speak no more!  At one time I used to have pulseaudio and then I purged it, now that I remember -- the volume applet is one of those items that disappeared, thanks for the info
[05:40] <Flannel> pfifo: They should be.  Are you on the right tab?
[05:40] <raj_> YourRuler101: tell me if you get any screen effects at all ..
[05:41] <thou> tucemiux: if you use xubuntu, there's an applet you can add to the panel, too
[05:41] <pfifo> Flannel, no im not
[05:41] <Flannel> pfifo: The "updates" tab: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2-software-sources.png
[05:41] <Tibman> hello
[05:41] <YourRuler101> raj_:when i right click desktop, there is no properties option
[05:42] <Flannel> etherealite: Is that command at the end of your sudoers file?
[05:42] <Tibman> does anyone know of any good video editing software?
[05:42] <tucemiux> thou, i use pulseaudio, I dont think I wake to wake up that monster purgeaudio, ill stick to gnome alsamixer, thanks for the help!
[05:42] <tucemiux> thou, i meant to say -- i use ubuntu studio -- youre giving me flashbacks o_O
[05:43] <thou> Tibman: i've used blender for it -- it's a 3d animation package, but actually has a pretty good video sequencer too
[05:43] <Tibman> thank you thou
[05:43] <thou> tucemiux: good luck ;-)
[05:43] <intel_> how install flashget in ubuntu
[05:43] <etherealite> Flannel I wanna allow sudo with no password for all commands.
[05:43] <thou> Tibman: caution, the interface is dissimilar to most programs, takes a bit of practice
[05:44] <intel_> how install flashget in ubuntu
[05:44] <Tibman> goto ubuntu software center and type in flashget
[05:45] <Tibman> *flash
[05:45] <Flannel> etherealite: Is the NOPASSWD line at the end of your sudoers file?
[05:46] <etherealite> Flannel I see now that it wasn't gonna move it down and retest
[05:46] <Flannel> etherealite: Or is there another (non-comment) line after it
[05:46] <intel_> Tibman.....it doesnot work.....
[05:46] <Tibman> thanks again, you all are life savers, have a gnight
[05:46] <Tibman> intel, type in flash
[05:46] <etherealite> Flannel I moved it down, it appears to be working now. Thanx a bunch!
[05:46] <thou> intel_: looks like it's not available on linux.  but see http://willysr.blogspot.com/2008/03/flashget-on-linux.html
[05:47] <thou> intel_: so you have to install wine, and then run the flashget installer .exe via wine, etc.
[05:47] <thou> intel_: http://www.winehq.org/
[05:47] <intel_> i have installed wine
[05:47] <Flannel> etherealite: What happens is if you have something later on in the sudoers file that applies, the last thing takes precidence
[05:47] <Tibman> thou, type in wine into the ububtu software center
[05:48] <Tibman> then use wine to download and install the windows version of flashget
[05:48] <intel_> how do u do that
[05:48] <intel_> ?
[05:49] <Tibman> download the windows version, the open wine and install the download
[05:49] <thou> intel_: if you're lucky, you download the exe to your desktop, then run:  wine ~/Desktop/name-of-installer.exe, and you get a launcher in your Applications menu
[05:49] <Tibman> gnight
[05:50] <thou> Question:  i have a trackball, and am trying to get EmulateWheel in evdev to work.  I had it working fine in Arch Linux; the right stuff is showing up in Xorg.3.log; and xinput list-props "Logitech USB Trackball" shows that EmulateWheelButton stuff is set.  but it has no effect.  paste of xorg.conf, etc., at:  http://friendpaste.com/5goKAdlqGGPrL4HIGzZxq8
[05:50] <etherealite> Flannel I just saw that in the comments of the config file... sigh I guess sometimes I should read those. I have another problem though, can't change my default app for opening .mp3 files in nautilus. How can I change?
[05:55] <etherealite> ls
[05:55] <etherealite> woops
[05:55] <adelcampo> etherealite, right click on an mp3 file and there's a tab to change what it opens with
[05:55] <adelcampo> etherealite, click on properties or something
[05:56] <Mike_Flip> hi, I'm having trouble getting a microsoft optical usb mouse working. I get these messages with tail -f /var/log/messages new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 and configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice but it doesnt work any hints?
[05:58] <etherealite> adelcampo Oh hell yes!
[05:59] <thou> Mike_Flip: i don't know what i'm talking about, but maybe this will help:  udevadm monitor -e; then plug in your mouse and see what it reports
[05:59] <thou> Mike_Flip: i assume you're using lucid
[06:00] <Mike_Flip> yes Lucid
[06:01] <Mike_Flip> UDEV  [1283490044.631128] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0 (usb)
[06:01] <thou> Mike_Flip: it's odd, it should just work....
[06:01] <Mike_Flip> UDEV_LOG=3
[06:01] <Mike_Flip> ACTION=add
[06:01] <Mike_Flip> DEVPATH=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0
[06:01] <FloodBot3> Mike_Flip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <Mike_Flip> SUBSYSTEM=usb
[06:02] <Mike_Flip> meant to put that on one line
[06:04] <Mike_Flip> when I unplug I get more including ID_MODEL=Microsoft_3-Button_Mouse_with_IntelliEye_TM_
[06:04] <etherealite> thou I have the same problem as Mike_Flip
[06:04] <Mike_Flip> so it seems to recognize it
[06:05] <thou> does one of the stanzas show something like DEVNAME=/dev/input/mouse1
[06:05] <mouse> I have a question about booting from usb.  The college I go to has their bloated windows with all it's typically slow programs.  Plus it has a network boot thing that only makes it even slower.  I took a usb to class since it would be faster to boot from that instead but the bios is set to boot from usb and CD last and the bios is password protected.  Is there any way I can boot from my usb or cd aside from removing any hard drives and ne
[06:05] <mouse> twork connections?
[06:06] <Mike_Flip> DEVNAME=/dev/bus/usb/002/006
[06:06] <asus> hi
[06:07] <thou> Mike_Flip: huh.  i don't know how to fix it, but mine has that, and then several other stanzas.  i'll paste it for you.
[06:07] <heizmann_> Hello, I've a question concerning to the sending of a post-request (bypassing a active portal). Here's js requets: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96094 and this is HTTP headers which are captured when I'm logging: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96100 any suggestions? :) thanks in advance
[06:08] <thune3> mouse: some/many bios have a boot hotkey to select boot device at startup. is this locked out with password too? (i've never locked a bios so i don't know)
[06:08] <thou> Mike_Flip: just so you have something to compare it to -- sorry i don't know how to fix it...  http://friendpaste.com/3YZzseFDdOOStZNQvCpplU
[06:08] <thou> Mike_Flip: (that was me unplugging, then re-plugging, my trackball mouse)
[06:09] <Ryiel> Hey guys, how safe is it to resize my ext3 partition cause i need more space on the windows partition?
[06:09] <mouse> thune3, Yeah on most of the newer bios it's the esc key.  I tried that first and when it looks like it's about to go into the bios it just reboots the computer and you're back at the bios again.
[06:09] <mouse> Err when it looks like it's about to go into the boot menu.
[06:10] <Mike_Flip> I get the same thing i think but with my device
[06:10] <etherealite> thou my ms mouse works, its just dog slow
[06:11] <Mike_Flip> mouse depending on the IT staff at your school you could ask them
[06:11] <thune3> mouse: i can't think of any other way, if you know model and/or motherboard maybe you could find that another key gives boot menu. sry or ^^^
[06:11] <Mike_Flip> or if your school has computer courses the profs may know something
[06:11] <mouse> Mike_Flip, Actually that day an IT guy just happened to be there and I asked him about it but he started going into the speech his school pays him to say and I just tuned him out.
[06:12] <thou> saganbyte: did you get it to work?
[06:12]  * warlockscript shouts good morning
[06:12] <etherealite> does /etc/udev/rules.d/somthing.rules still work?
[06:13] <crohakon> mouse, the computers at your school are setup so that people cannot do what you are wanting to do.. and for a reason. ;)
[06:13] <warlockscript> nagwawala: halo
[06:14] <mouse> crohakon, You mean they love control because of self esteem issues and having a lack of it in the other areas of their lives?
[06:14] <thune3> anyone know how to get ubuntu to NOT set the hardware clock?
[06:14] <Arrick> hey, how to I boot ubuntu server to allow only 16 bit to run?
[06:14] <Arrick> 16 bit video that is, for a virtual pc 2007 install
[06:15] <saganbyte> thou, yes :)
[06:15] <thou> cool
[06:15] <etherealite> Arrick your xorg config
[06:15] <crohakon> mouse, or they need to control traffic and the spread of virus on an antiqued network that is accessed by a bunch of know it all kids that in reality know just enough to cause damage? ;)
[06:15] <Arrick> etherealite, yeah, I have to be able to get into it to do that though, cant figure out how to get to a terminal to change it
[06:16] <etherealite> Arrick select the recover options on boot
[06:16] <crohakon> mouse, I know... I hacked this sh*t out of my old high school network back in the day... ;)
[06:16] <mouse> crohakon, Well if that's the case, then why let people use IE or use the norton av if they're so concerned about their computers' security?
[06:16] <Mike_Flip> and they probably get funding or huge discounts to make all their students use softwares x and y
[06:17] <Arrick> etherealite, what are the key strokes, I cant see anything on it
[06:17] <crohakon> mouse, because IE comes standard on the computer and norton is good at sweet talking morons into think it is useful.
[06:17] <etherealite> Arrick either that or mount the drive volume and change the default run level to 1 instead of 2
[06:17] <mehranhu> Hello Guyz
[06:17] <thou> ok, good luck everyone, later.
[06:18] <mouse> crohakon, Then there's a reasonable possibility that someone who wants to boot from usb will do far much less damage than the owners of the computers themselves?
[06:18] <Arrick> etherealite, I dont see any of these options on the install screen
[06:18] <T-Co> Does someone have problems using USB peripherals in 10.04 with ASUS P5Q PRO Turbo?
[06:18] <sebsebseb> mouse: Most  Educational Establishments  have idiots in charge of the IT, and so its Windows, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Office
[06:18] <mehranhu> I am new to this forum
[06:18] <Mike_Flip> on the plus side your school might be part of msdn  getting you access to free or cheap software
[06:19] <mehranhu> i am having some problem related U-Boot
[06:19] <etherealite> Arrick, oh  so your booting from the iso?
[06:19] <crohakon> mouse, I never said that possibility does not exist... As sebsebseb stated.
[06:19] <etherealite> does /etc/udev/rules.d/somthing.rules still work?
[06:19] <mouse> sebsebseb, Oh God I hate office.  We're supposed to be using access in that class.
[06:19] <Arrick> etherealite, yeah, im booting from iso
[06:19] <sebsebseb> mouse: ah yes Access
[06:19] <neddluddnz> sebsebseb: working in a windows environment at work, people seem to enjoy a comfy microsoft enterprise hug filled with certainty :P
[06:19] <T-Co> Does this: http://pastebin.com/FPyHe7P1
[06:19] <sebsebseb> neddluddnz: hug?
[06:20] <mehranhu> Someone will help me please ??
[06:20] <Mike_Flip> I have problems using USB peripherals in 10.04 with acer aspire 5000
[06:20] <sebsebseb> mouse: and if you were to try to get them to use something else,  they would probably be like no,  business don't run those apps
[06:20] <crohakon> I actually like word 2007/2010 more than openoffice.... but I do not like it enough to have windows installed at home. ;)
[06:20] <T-Co> And then i.e. when trying to copy pictures from my DSLR it takes forever to start copying and then hangs all of a sudden (would indicate the same problem, disconnecting in the middle of copying)
[06:20] <JohnFlux> mehranhu: you didn't actually ask anything
[06:21] <neddluddnz> sebsebseb: not literally.  microsoft provides a simple, comfortable experience
[06:21] <sebsebseb> mouse: or maybe they would install say a better browser for example, but only for the  IT department, for example
[06:21] <etherealite> Arrick, so you see nothing but black from the beginning?
[06:21] <T-Co> Just wondering if there are some known bugs in the USB Subsystem
[06:21] <Arrick> i see the initial install screen
[06:21] <Realcoolguy_> I've taken a real liking towards Abiword, and have used it for a long time.  There's something about NOT having my cursor auto-matically jump around everywhere and the program attempt to number things I don't want numbered that is refreshing.
[06:21] <neddluddnz> sebsebseb: Im not even allowed Firefox or any alternative software on our win7 standard operating environment:P
[06:22] <Arrick> etherealite, one sec
[06:22] <sebsebseb> neddluddnz: Microsoft provide an OS that technically isn't that good, but, because of the amount of market share it has, most apps for a PC run on it, and also, because of that, thats what most computer users are used to
[06:22] <neddluddnz> Realcoolguy_ : I hate the same thing!
[06:22] <Blue1> Realcoolguy_: I use abiword.  really like it.
[06:22] <Mike_Flip> I've found the IT guys cool. but limited by the higher ups
[06:22] <etherealite> does /etc/udev/rules.d/somthing.rules still work?
[06:22] <crohakon> neddluddnz, I was surprised when a friend of mine that manages a wendy's informed me that they use openoffice. They still use windows and outlook though...
[06:22] <sebsebseb> neddluddnz: and yeah most OEM pre installs Windows, because of how things are
[06:22] <mouse> sebsebseb, Actually the teacher just came out of the database field for x amount of years and she said how limited access is and I asked if it's obviously not the best choice then why are we learning it and she kinda fumbled with her words for a minute and went into a speech about how it's a great stepping stone and all that.  I think microsoft is paying these schools to teach their students to use M$ products so they'll be dependant on t
[06:22] <mouse> hem.
[06:23] <neddluddnz> sebsebseb: exactly. and because its ONE environment its possible for a microsoft sales person to say' we can give you ONE microsoft experience.
[06:23] <Blue1> neddluddnz: does that include....nvm
[06:23] <crohakon> mouse, I do not doubt that for a minute.
[06:23] <mehranhu> fatload mmc 0:1 0xc0000000 system.img i am trying to read system.img from SD Card. At the moment my uboot downloads it from USB
[06:23] <Realcoolguy_> crohakon, office seats often times cost more than Windows seats depending :)
[06:23] <neddluddnz> sebsebseb: yes we use SCCM so it automagically installs win7 then even as an admin are blocked from programs. Its so fustrating to have ie8 take 9seconds to load ads on pages
[06:23] <etherealite> does /etc/udev/rules.d/somthing.rules still work?
[06:23] <sebsebseb> mouse: well yes, they even give away a lot of their apps to students for free now,  I guess get them locked in when young, and many will still use Microsoft products when old
[06:23] <neddluddnz> Blue1: nvm ??
[06:24] <avis-> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1506474/P1010017.JPG
[06:24] <Blue1> neddluddnz: never mind
[06:24] <RudyValencia> What's the fourth number in "linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic-pae" mean?
[06:24] <RudyValencia> I know 2.6.32 is the kernel version
[06:24] <Mike_Flip> ya my school I could actually download free copies of MS software from msdn because of the schools friendliness with MS
[06:24] <neddluddnz> Blue1: I know what nvm is but dont get what you mean.
[06:24] <Arrick> etherealite, I get http://imagebin.ca/view/ZBN5ET.html
[06:24] <Blue1> RudyValencia: good question...
[06:25] <Arrick> heya RudyValencia long time no talk
[06:25] <mouse> sebsebseb, It's like we're in the streets of new york.  M$ says, "The first one's free kids."
[06:25] <mehranhu> someone please tell me how to read system.img from SD Card ??
[06:25] <sebsebseb> mouse: also as an IT teacher at one of these places,  the person may not personally like the app, but will still have to teach it, because that's what they were told to teach
[06:25] <gelan> Lucid UNR stuck at the CLI prompt - sudo service gdm restart nor startx helps.  I notice a flicker for checking battery state and drops back to CLI. Any thoughts?
[06:25] <Blue1> neddluddnz: I was wondering if that included free lubricants.
[06:25] <Mike_Flip> didnt stop me from installing things on my network drive
[06:25] <crohakon> sebsebseb, SO true. At the local community college here if you take any class relating to computers you get free access to almost ever piece of MS software.
[06:25] <sebsebseb> mouse: I kind  of typed that wrong in a way,  being clear, I am not a paid IT teacher,  would be awesome though for opensource/freesoftware and what not, but can't just do that
[06:25] <mehranhu> attend Please I need your Help . Please tell me how to download system.img from SD Card
[06:26] <sebsebseb> crohakon: yep vender lock in
[06:26] <Blue1> sebsebseb: that's what I hate about apple
[06:26] <etherealite> Arrick did you try F4 modes?
[06:27] <crohakon> mouse, I remember testing out of a basic internet/computer class in college... the test was centered around IE7 menus and outlook menus. At the time I used firefox and thunderbird. It was a big WTF moment. Any person with really knowledge of computers taking the test would not be using IE and outlook. I passed, but only because I guessed good.
[06:27] <sebsebseb> Blue1: Microsoft is only software for the vender lock in, Apple is the hardware as well
[06:27] <etherealite> does /etc/udev/rules.d/somthing.rules still work?
[06:27] <mouse> sebsebseb, Yeah seriously.  That would be a much more practical use of time and funds.  Teaching people how to function without dependencies to a failing company.
[06:27] <mehranhu> attend Please I need your Help . Please tell me how to download system.img from SD Card
[06:27] <mehranhu> attend Please I need your Help . Please tell me how to download system.img from SD Card
[06:27] <Arrick> etherealite, there are only 4 options, and none are "Safe graphics Mode" like you used to have to do to load the OS, and then get to a shell to change xorg.conf
[06:27] <crohakon> real*
[06:28] <mehranhu> someone help me please
[06:28] <sebsebseb> mouse: well not enough of us yet, that want Educational Establisments and business, to use a load of opensource/freesoftware instead of propritary software
[06:28] <Arrick> mehranhu, please be patient and dont spam the channels with repeats, someone will answer you eventually
[06:29] <sebsebseb> mouse: as well as home users
[06:29] <etherealite> Arrick use the console mode
[06:29] <mehranhu> ok Arrick
[06:29] <mouse> crohakon, It's like that with all the schools now.  They all require office web browser plugins.  It's insane.
[06:29] <Blue1> sebsebseb: plus draconian DRM
[06:29] <Arrick> etherealite, thats what I thought I was asking about, how do I get to it?
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Blue1: whats draconian?
[06:29] <Mike_Flip> actually at my school there was a separate lab for students who know what they are doing that had multiboot and vmware less network restrictions etc
[06:29] <mehranhu> I am new here first time joined so dont know the nature of forum
[06:29] <Blue1> sebsebseb: apples drm policy - draconian = extreme
[06:29] <fryan> thanks
[06:30] <Arrick> mehranhu, typicaly practice is to ask, then wait at LEAST 10 minutes before asking again.
[06:30] <Mike_Flip> drm encourages users to piracy cuz it works better
[06:30] <Blue1> sebsebseb: drm = digital rights management
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Blue1: yes I know what DRM is
[06:30] <crohakon> mouse,  I am a linux user who fixes windows machines for people... I don't understand why anyone would use these thing besides ignorance. I have been working on one laptop tonight that is so infected I have been doing scans for over 8 hours and still finding crap... talk about insane.
[06:31] <sebsebseb> crohakon: uhmm
[06:31] <etherealite> Arrick what are all the modes listed when you press f4?
[06:31] <Realcoolguy_> crohakon, it's really fun when you have variants that keep inviting their friends over to 'play' on the computer
[06:31] <Blue1> crohakon: shoot it and put it out of it's misery
[06:31] <sebsebseb> crohakon: get the OS clean installed then?  to make sure malware is gone properly
[06:31] <Arrick> crohakon, thats because as a windows tech, you cut your losses at 1 hour, backup the machine to a clean machine, and then image the machine
[06:31] <mehranhu> arrik, OK Thanks
[06:31] <mouse> crohakon, Damn is that my grandparents' PC?
[06:31] <Mike_Flip> well the industry support for microsoft is the main one and user ignorance is the other
[06:31] <sebsebseb> crohakon: also you could probably get some people to dual boot, with Ubuntu or another Linux distro, and take it from there
[06:31] <crohakon> sebsebseb, Blue1, mouse, I thought about just installing ubuntu on it and seeing if the people noticed. ;)
[06:31] <Blue1> i switched my folks over to linux over a year ago -- wasn't painless, but it's way more stable then win xp
[06:32] <Arrick> etherealite, I'm trying the one that said "Install a minimal virtual machine" right quick
[06:32] <sebsebseb> Mike_Flip: indeed
[06:32] <mehranhu> attend Please I need your Help . Please tell me how to download system.img from SD Card
[06:33] <Arrick> its funny, but at one time my sister was scared to let anyone touch her computer because she was dead scared of losing her linux install crohakon, said she didnt want to pay for it again lol.
[06:33] <Hounddog> can i actually downgrade the kernel? my problem is i need to install something that requires an older kernel up to 2.6.25
[06:33] <crohakon> LOL
[06:33] <sebsebseb> Arrick: pay for it?
[06:33] <kaniini> question!
[06:33] <kaniini> how can I resize primary partition in ubuntu with gparted?
[06:33] <sebsebseb> !ask | kaniini
[06:33] <Arrick> sebsebseb, yeah, she worked for a bank and they charged her for a copy to learn the backend on lol
[06:33] <mouse> Seriously I don't see what the problem is with booting from USB.  The school has norton ghost on all of their machines anyways so what's the point other than to maybe prevent the user from installing a new os.
[06:33] <crohakon> I just wish ASUS would start shipping their laptops and desktops with Ubuntu installed.
[06:33] <sebsebseb> kaniini: to resize your Ubuntu partition use gparted on the Live CD
[06:33] <Blue1> kaniini: you'd need to boot off a live cd to do that.
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: did you install wubi to an SD card? Your question smells like wubi..
[06:34] <gelan> Lucid UNR stuck at the CLI prompt - sudo service gdm restart nor startx helps.  I notice a flicker for checking battery state and drops back to CLI. Any thoughts?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> Arrick: oh?
[06:34] <kaniini> k. damn...
[06:34] <crohakon> mouse, does the machine have a CD drive? And if so, why not a live CD? ;)
[06:34] <Realcoolguy_> mouse,  is this k-12?  often times in the USA anyway, they have legal concerns that are part of the problem.  Filters etc.
[06:34] <sebsebseb> crohakon: ideally OEM's should offer distro choice,  not just Ubuntu
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> kaniini: you can resize in the livecd as the partitions all need to be unmounted. Ensure backups are sufficiently recent BEFORE you start playing
[06:35] <Blue1> Realcoolguy_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:35] <kaniini> ActionParsnip: k. thanks
[06:35] <Arrick> sebsebseb, yeah, I laughed so hard it wasnt funny, the bank was using a suse version, about 6 years ago
[06:35] <Realcoolguy_> Blue1, uh I'll get right on that...?
[06:35] <seekwill> sebsebseb: There's too much choice already: Windows or Linux
[06:35] <etherealite> does /etc/udev/rules.d/somthing.rules still work?
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> gelan: read: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:35] <mouse> crohakon, Because the bios is locked and booting from cd is just above booting from usb.  Realcoolguy_, No it's college.
[06:36] <sebsebseb> seekwill: not quite,  since  most computer users don't even know about Linux,  they  think PC =  Windows and Mac =  whatever that runs
[06:36] <jimisrvrox> Hey guys im in sore need of an alternative to the disgusting software known as Adobe Flash...it is just terribly slow and my wife is getting on my case...and ive had enuf of the Windows rant from her...unfortunately an upset Ubuntu user (my wife)...
[06:36] <sebsebseb> seekwill: I mean they think a Mac is rather differnet to a PC
[06:36] <seekwill> sebsebseb: Yep...
[06:36] <kaniini> could I use what ever distro i have currently as an image file?
[06:36] <kaniini> ie. Linux Mint
[06:36] <mneptok> !offtopic
[06:36] <sebsebseb> kaniini: a virtual machine?
[06:36] <seekwill> sebsebseb: There are a few places selling Ubuntu, but still
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: if you can find the debs for it then you can install any version of kernel
[06:36] <crohakon> jimisrvrox, funny, I have no issue with flash on my machine. Maybe a hardware update?
[06:36] <kaniini> sebsebseb: for the partition resizing
[06:37] <gartral> i know that it's possible to use broadcom cards as a ap repeater.. how do i use that?
[06:37] <sebsebseb> kaniini: ok to re size the Ubuntu partition
[06:37] <Blue1> jimisrvrox: http://www.google.com/chrome/  (html5)
[06:37] <crohakon> seekwill, yeah... like DELL hehe
[06:37] <etherealite> does /etc/udev/rules.d/somthing.rules still work?
[06:37] <sebsebseb> kaniini: you need a program that can re size your partition, which program doesn't really matter, and you will need to be booted from a CD to do it
[06:37] <jimisrvrox> Blue1: no Google products....cant stand Google..
[06:37] <gelan> ActionParsnip, Nothing out of the ordinary in Xorg.0.log
[06:38] <Blue1> jimisrvrox: understand but that's the best that's out there atm
[06:38] <saravan> any body from california
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> jimisrvrox: you can add a dri section in xorg.conf can make it nicer. There is also /etc/adobe/mms.cfg (I think its mms.cfg) you can add to make flash nicer
[06:38] <gartral> jimisrvrox: no android for you!
[06:38] <kaniini> sebsebseb: ok. thanks. i'll try Mint for that. hopefully it has gparted on it
[06:38] <Blue1> saravan: I used to be, does that count?
[06:38] <crohakon> Blue1, agreed, chrome is so quick.
[06:38] <sebsebseb> !california | saravan
[06:38] <nowimproved> wtf
[06:38] <jimisrvrox> crohakon: well im running Ubuntu...but I know that there is one but unfortunately did not document it when one person explained to me about the alternative
[06:38] <brett_> Raj_:you there?
[06:38] <sebsebseb> saravan: #ubuntu-us-ca  I think is the channel for california users
[06:38] <nowimproved> i keep typing du -sh * /etc/httpd/logs, and it says 0k
[06:38] <nowimproved> i want to see how much space its using
[06:38] <sebsebseb> !language | nowimproved
[06:39] <mneptok> nowimproved: logs are kept in /var/log
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> !ics | gartral
[06:39] <sebsebseb> !loco | saravan
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> nowimproved: run: df -h
[06:39] <Blue1> crohakon: seen this:  http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com
[06:39] <saravan> Blue1, see pm
[06:39] <cwe_gila> aeeeeeeeeee
[06:39] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: du is what (s)he wants
[06:39] <Blue1> k
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> nowimproved: for just the folder you can use: du -h /etc/httpd/logs | tail -n 1
[06:40] <crohakon> jimisrvrox, http://ubuntuguide.net/lightspark-an-alternative-high-performance-free-flash-player
[06:40] <saravan> hey any one help me my audio volume is not working properly
[06:41] <thune3> i want ubuntu to NOT set the hardware clock. any suggestions?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> saravan: check all sliders are maxed and unmuted in gnomes interface as well as alsamixer in terminal
[06:41] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: except apache logs *are kept in /var/log like everything else*
[06:41] <intel_> nothing helps guys
[06:42] <nowimproved> du -h = 0k
[06:42] <mouse> So basically there's no way to boot from usb or cd if they're both set to last in the bios and the bios is password protected?
[06:42] <mneptok> nowimproved: du -h /var/log/apache2/access.log*
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> saravan: could also try alsa 1.0.23 from the ppa
[06:42] <nowimproved> but its clearly not, as for my language...uh>?!
[06:42] <saravan> ActionParsnip, dude im getting very low sound output that i cant hear properly
[06:42] <nowimproved> mneptok, i realize that I want to see how much space the folder is occupying
[06:42] <intel_> have any of you guys installed flashget in your U-10
[06:42] <mneptok> nowimproved: du -h /var/log/apache2
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> intel_: what's it do?
[06:42] <pfifo> Hai guise, Whats going on in here?
[06:42] <intel_> don't shoot arrow in air
[06:43] <saravan> ActionP, what dude i didt get u
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: support for ubuntu
[06:43] <nowimproved> mneptok, it says 0k
[06:43] <etherealite> "/set beep_when_window_active ON"
[06:43] <etherealite> "/set beep_when_away ON"
[06:43] <etherealite> "/set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT"
[06:43] <FloodBot3> etherealite: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <intel_> it is a downloader
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> saravan: tab complete nicks. Check alsamixer then check the alsa ppa
[06:43] <nowimproved> mneptok, it won't even display with that command, I've been using linux for 8 years, thought I was missing something, guess not
[06:43] <intel_> a famous download manager
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> intel_: not heard of it
[06:44] <crohakon> mouse, good luck hacking your school network. To bad it is not the days of Novell ;)
[06:44] <crohakon> Goodnight.
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> intel_: is it for downloading youtube vids?
[06:44] <saravan> ActionP, where to check im new to ubuntu
[06:44] <sebsebseb> crohakon: Days of Novell?
[06:44] <intel_> Action......search the net u will get tons of link for that
[06:45] <mneptok> sebsebseb: please do not instigate offtopic chatter
[06:45] <mneptok> sebsebseb: you should know better
[06:45] <mehranhu> attend Please I need your Help . Please tell me how to download system.img from SD Card
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> saravan: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/%2Barchive/unstable
[06:45] <intel_> and the use of it as well
[06:46] <crohakon> sebsebseb, hehe I got you in trouble ;) Novell Networks... my old highschool used to use it. It was easy to break. Goodnight
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> saravan: check alsamixer first before adding that
[06:46] <jjohnson> i miss novell, so simple so easy and could be emulated on linux using mars_nwe
[06:47] <mouse> crohakon, Well thanks for the help anyways.  I didn't think there was a way to get past that.  I should just let it go since... you know... I wouldn't know where to start...  <.<  >.>
[06:47] <sebsebseb> crohakon: yeah I thought you meant Netware (or whatever it was called),  ok night
[06:47] <saravan> ActionP, ok
[06:47] <jjohnson> novell netware 3.1.2 is what i worked on
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Intel_: is it a generic downloader or just for youtube etc? I use the downloader built into the browsers I use and have no issue
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> saravan: tab complete nicks dude. Type action then press tab. It will type ALL my nick for you
[06:48] <j5098> i'm on ubuntu 8.10 right now and trying to do an upgrade to 9.04.  it errors out because it can't fetch a lot of the jaunty packages.    is this just because it's so out of date?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> !eol | j5098
[06:49] <saravan> ActionParsnip: wow thanks its workin dude
[06:49] <saravan> ActionParsnip: hold on for a second will b back soon
[06:49] <gelan> UNR stuck at the CLI prompt - sudo service gdm restart nor startx helps. Nothing strange in logs. reinstalled ubuntu desktop and dpkg reconfigured it. Didnt help.
[06:49] <greezmunkey> NovHell...yikes
[06:50] <pfifo> Flannel, looks like all my packages are working perfectly now, your awesome
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> gelan: the Xorg.0.log will say why its bad. Did you upgrade to maverick by any chance?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: you're. Your is for ownership
[06:50] <intel_> Boy it is for downloading everything and we can also pause it and start anytime we need to. So I want to download some huge files which is not possible in single day...and I have to Pause it and download it on later days...
[06:50] <gelan> ActionParsnip, still in lucid. Xorg looks normal
[06:50] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: This is #ubuntu, not #grammar
[06:50] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, its ok i can use both, i speak american
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> gelan: its not or you'd get an x server. Read carefully
[06:51] <heizmann_> Hi all, anybody knows javascript request and so on? :)
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: just trying to make the channel appear smarter. There is little excuse for poor grammar. It may help people explain issues clearer :)
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: its poor grammar. One is different
[06:52] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: This is an international channel, not everyone is a native english speaker.  Please don't be elitist.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: I was only informing. Not condescending. No offence
[06:53] <pfifo> imma sue ActionParsnip
[06:53] <gartral> Flannel: this is public, friendly chat, don't be a hippocrit! :P
[06:54] <fryan> hello
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Hi fryan
[06:55] <Crusnik> sup
[06:56] <Crusnik> trying to figure how to use this thing.  how do i navigate to an anime irc chat?
[06:56] <warlockscript> darkhero: halo
[06:56] <pfifo> Crusnik, /server irc.rizon.net
[06:57] <Crusnik> thanks
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Crusnik: what client?
[06:57] <Crusnik> ubuntu irc client
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Crusnik: if you add it in your servers, it can connect automagically
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Crusnik: there are many irc clients dude
[06:57] <mehranhu> attend Please I need your Help . Please tell me how to download system.img from SD Card
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: is this for wubi?
[06:59] <q_a_z_steve> how do I check whether I've set an "internet host name" for my 10.04 server install? like "hostname" but for web server identity...
[07:00] <pfifo> q_a_z_steve, might want to try #ubuntu-server
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: if you don't answer questions to clarify the situation, we can't help you
[07:00] <q_a_z_steve> pfifo: good call.
[07:00] <gelan> ActionParsnip, squinting thro xorg.0.log and comparing with an older log.Nothing odd. I'll look at it in greater detail later.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> gelan: you could blacklist the driver you normally use to make the OS use failsafe vesa
[07:01] <mehranhu> ActionParsnip; I was away
[07:02] <gelan> ActionParsnip, will try that.  Appreciate your response.
[07:02] <erikja> !nvidia
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: is that a file which is part of wubi?
[07:03] <mehranhu> ActionParsnin: i dont know about wubi i am  new to android development
[07:03] <Sunderphon> Wow, I just tried out nexuiz
[07:03] <Sunderphon> I like :P
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: use tab to complete nicks dude :)
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: so its a file in the android OS?
[07:04] <SkyNetMaster> morning, how it is possible to display some post login message to the user after log in. Is there any tools for that?
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: if its on an SD card, mount the SD card then just copy it off like any other file
[07:05] <mkatz> good time of the day
[07:06] <mkatz> I have a problem when installing 10.04.1  on my PC that previously had Fedora 10
[07:06] <gelan> has any1 tried to boot win7 using Grub-1.98 with a statement like "insmod ntfs chainload (hd1)+1" in 40_custom.  I have a 3 HDD box at home and grub2 never boots win7. Always comes back to the grub2 menu. I can only get to win7 from BIOS.
[07:06] <PresuntoRJ> !hi | mkatz
[07:06] <mehranhu> ActionParsnip  : I mounted from SD card. my device boots from sd card and loads u-boot.bin, userdata.img and other such files from SD Card
[07:06] <mkatz> when I try to install I select "specify partitions manually" because I want to preserve my layout
[07:07] <mkatz> other than that all default options are used
[07:07] <mkatz> at the end of the installation it crashes with "ubiquity closed unexpectedly"
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: if you insert the card it should mount and popup in nautilus and you can copy the files
[07:07] <mkatz> seemingly, all the files are copied, but boot sector is not installed, because when I rebooted I fell into grub prompt
[07:07] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: do you boot from a different disk that is usually the C: under windows ?
[07:07] <mehranhu> i want to write system.img (that is present at sd card) to nand flash
[07:07] <mkatz> PRJ: I do not have windows. The computer previously had Fedora 10.
  sorry budy i cant tell you properly. I am talking about the installation of android
[07:08] <mkatz> with grub and kernel 2.6.27
[07:08] <karthee> Hi .. I have a file of 98 GB .. How do I find the number of lines in that file ? certainly wc -l wont help as it takes away all my ram ? any other way ?
[07:08] <harovali> hi , I'm running jaunty jackalope in a machine , and something seems to have gone wrong today , when the graphics card started showing a very big font which difficults user operation. Here I posted lspci output and Xorg.0.log http://paste.pocoo.org/show/257904/  . The X screen is doing 800x600, while it was doing a fine 1024x768. The behaviour varies from one user to another one , the one I'm writing right now has 800x600 but the
[07:08] <Ddorda> hey there guys. i'm trying to make a symbolic link into /var/www and for some reason it doesn't work. can i have your help please?
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: if you simply want a file off an SD card, its like no other
[07:09] <Ddorda> i mean apache doesn't let me enter that link
[07:09] <Blue1> karthee: one file 98G?  what is it?
[07:09] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: ok, sorry... is it the "primary" disk to boot from?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Ddorda: there may be a line in your apache conf to follow symlinks or not
  Do you know how to Install Android ?
[07:10] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: what does $ sudo grub-probe tells?
[07:10] <karthee> Blue1: its a jetty log file. .. i increased the log level for some time .. its size shooted up to 98 GB ..
[07:10] <Jordan_U> gelan: Are you retooh on Ubuntuforums?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: I know how to flash phones with new images. That's all
[07:10] <mkatz> PRJ: I am not at any prompt right now...
[07:10] <Blue1> karthee: well you can see the last few lines of the file with the tail command
[07:10] <mkatz> PRJ: there is only one disk in the computer and the /boot partition is /dev/sda1
[07:10] <gelan> Jordan_U, who?
  my new Insllated Image hanged at here[    5.973496] [adb_function_enable] adb_function => (enabled)
[07:11] <PresuntoRJ> gelan: is it the same disk as C: under win7? what does $ sudo grub-probe tell ?
[07:11] <mkatz> PRJ: and if matters, it is a primary partition, not logical
[07:11] <Jordan_U> gelan: Someone who recently posted a similar question on Ubuntuforums.
[07:11] <Ddorda> ActionParsnip: can you be more specific? i have no idea what that line should be.. i check httpd.conf but it's empty file
  I tries this "fatload mmc 0:1 0xc0000000 system.img"
[07:11] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: exactly like mine right now...
[07:12] <karthee> Blue1:  I want to see the number of lines ..
[07:12] <Jordan_U> gelan: Could you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[07:12] <gelan> Jordan_U, I have the exact same problem as I think what you are looking at and I am using BIOS or grub4dos on it
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> mehranhu: i'd ask in an android channel. If you want data off an sd card I can advise but the intricasies of android are offtopic here
[07:12] <Blue1> karthee: wc is the only way I know sorry...
  onenand erase a00000 4700000
[07:12] <karthee> Blue1: I thought sed/awk could help someway ..
[07:12] <mkatz> PRJ: so what can I do?
[07:12] <eugenio> hi sombady cuould helpme
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Ddorda: i'd ask in #httpd they may know a thing or 3
[07:12] <eugenio> ???
[07:13] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: what does your partition topology and /etc/fstab look like ? are you using grub2? are you identifying the partitions by UUID ?
[07:13] <Blue1> karthee: still learning scripting sounds like you know more then I
[07:13] <gelan> Jordan_U, Unfortunately, I am not on that machine.  I was just hoping someone had tried a straightforward chainload into the LBA 0
[07:13] <eugenio> i have a proble whit cups
[07:13] <eugenio> ??????
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> eugenio: without asking, nobody can
[07:13] <karthee> Blue1: No problem ..
  ok thanks i was thinking its u-boot problem bcoz when i loads system.img from USB its works fine but when i loads it from SD Card it hangs
[07:14] <mkatz> PRJ: I don't know. There are 12 partitions
[07:14] <harovali> how can I reconfigure graphics card (ViaChipset)
[07:14] <mkatz> PRJ: 1,2 primary - /boot and /
[07:14] <harovali> and reconfigure X monitor detection ?
[07:14] <mkatz> PRJ: 3 - primary, swap
[07:14] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: wow :D
[07:15] <mkatz> PRJ: 5-12 variouis stuff, /usr, /usr/local/ /var/ etc
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> karthee: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/red-hat-31/fast-line-count-for-large-files-583991/
[07:15] <mkatz> PRJ: old school
[07:15] <eugenio> i can configure cups server
[07:15] <eugenio> ????
[07:15] <bullgard4> Ubuntu provides the kernels 2.6.32-24-generic #41-Ubuntu and 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu. How does Ubuntu call the number 41?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> harovali: boot to root recovert and run: sudo Xorg --configure
[07:16] <xsacha> hi
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> !details | eugenio
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Hi xsacha
[07:16] <a3Dman> bullgard4, it's how many times that kernel got compiled
[07:16] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: no problem... but what have you kept from fedora there? or is it a fresh system only for Ubuntu?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> harovali: will give a skeleton xorg.conf which you can pad out
[07:16] <harovali> ActionParsnip: you mean to select "recovery system" from grub ?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> harovali: yes, recovery mode then select root
[07:17] <eugenio> ok
[07:17] <mkatz> PRJ: it is fedora, but I am formatting /boot / /var /tmp /usr
[07:17] <bullgard4> a3Dman: Yes. And what is its name?
[07:17] <eugenio>  thanks
[07:17] <harovali> ActionParsnip: thanks , I'll try and come back
[07:17] <eugenio> se you
[07:18] <mkatz> PRJ: naturally I want to preserve /home and /usr/local and likewise
[07:18] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: is your etc under / pratition or apart ?
[07:18] <PresuntoRJ> partition
[07:18] <mkatz> under /
[07:18] <mkatz> on my laptop that was a clean install from scratch I have similar configuration (11 partitions)
[07:19] <mkatz> this is a standard non-brand PC, laptop is Dell E6400
[07:19] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: can you get to a shell at all there?
[07:19] <mkatz> yes
[07:20] <mkatz> I can even boot into Live UI
[07:21] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: brilliant, could you verify what $ sudo grub-probe says?
[07:22] <mkatz> PRJ: no path or device specified
[07:22] <tonysan> I am running ubuntu minimal on VirtualBox, the terminal screen is pretty slow, how to deal with that?
[07:22] <mkatz> all my /dev/sda* are mounted as /target/ *
[07:23] <saravan> ActionParsnip: ru der
[07:23] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: under the live, do you have the gparted installed? can you run it?
[07:23] <mkatz> PRJ: when I do sudo grub-probe /target I get 'ext2'
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> saravan: sup
[07:24] <shanji> aloo
[07:24] <mkatz>  /dev/sda2 is designated to be /. It is mounted as /target
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> tonysan: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/ use that up until the embedded video
[07:25] <saravan> hey still volume out put is low dude
[07:25] <saravan> ActionParsnip: and i have installed ubuntu 9.10
[07:25] <mkatz> PRJ: running gparted now
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> saravan: all physical connections in ok with speakers and such?
[07:26] <saravan> ActionParsnip: ya ok dude hardly i can hear the sound
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> saravan: is the system a laptop?
[07:27] <saravan> ActionParsnip: desktop
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> saravan: ok then all I have left is to run: sudo lshw -C sound ,websearch for the product line to find guides
[07:27] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: does it have the expected topology? can you maually format the /boot in ext4 ?
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> !sound | saravan
[07:27] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: what is the size of your swap ?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> mkatz: Follow this guide to install grub from a LiveCD: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[07:28] <Sargun_Screen> I have a battery in my Dell Precision M4400 and it is not charging
[07:28] <Sargun_Screen> I tried a different battery, and it is not charging either
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> tonysan: that should make the terminal use framebuffer and be smoother
[07:28] <Sargun_Screen> in acpi it says it's charging at 1 mA (slow)
[07:28] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: I am looking for know issues that had crashed ubiquity in the past... :-/
[07:29] <mkatz> PRJ: swap is circa 2Gb, like RAM
[07:29] <saravan> ActionParsnip: *-multimedia
[07:29] <saravan>        description: Audio device
[07:29] <saravan>        product: MCP61 High Definition Audio
[07:29] <saravan>        vendor: nVidia Corporation
[07:29] <saravan>        physical id: 5
[07:29] <FloodBot3> saravan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Sargun_Screen: i'd ask in ##hardware
[07:29] <saravan>        bus info: pci@0000:00:05.0
[07:29] <mkatz> PRJ: why would I need /boot in ext4? I need journaling there?
[07:29] <tonysan> ActionParsnip: how to let it use framebuffer?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> tonysan: the link I gave tells you
[07:30] <mkatz> gpated opened and presenting partitions
[07:30] <tonysan> ActionParsnip: reading, thanks
[07:30] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: not really, but it is the default ubuntu filesystem for now... you could try other type as well, but I use ext4 even on my server /boot
[07:31] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: he does not even complete the ubiquity installation process... he does not have a running system to fix the grub yet
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> PresuntoRJ: is the install media ok? If ubiquity fails it doesn't sound good
[07:32] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: feel free to help if you have clues on how to get by "ubiquity closed unexpectedly"
[07:32] <tonysan> ActionParsnip: I don't need to install the VirtualBox's Addition, right?
[07:33] <PresuntoRJ> ActionParsnip: good idea.... not sure
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> tonysan: for a terminal only system no unless you need sound
[07:33] <Arrick> ok, with a minimal install of the current 10.* server, what is the default text editor?
[07:33] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: have you tested you media for errors before you tried to install it? there used to be an option on the boot menu before the live kicks in
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Arrick: vi or nano most likely
[07:34] <mkatz> there wasn't the option :)
[07:34] <tonysan> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> mkatz: press spacebar when you see the stickman screen
[07:35] <mkatz> what a stickman is? I am in LiveCD Gnome session right now.
[07:35] <Arrick> how to exit vi?
[07:36] <randyrkelly> how do i remove a image from my boot loader
[07:36] <mkatz> AP: the file copying finishes fine, only the grub install fails, it seems
[07:36] <Ichal_> any indonesian
[07:36] <PresuntoRJ> Arrick: to save and close <ESC> :wq ... to close without save, <ESC> :q!
[07:37] <saltedfish_> !indonesian | Ichal_
[07:38] <karthee> hi .. using sed can i remove the 2nd line of a file ?
[07:39] <pfifo> karthee, I dont think so
[07:40] <mkatz> hmm
[07:40] <PresuntoRJ> karthee: if I remember, most sed if for line manipulation... you could try using cat, head and tail...
[07:40] <mkatz> any advice?
[07:41] <hobble> hello all
[07:41] <mkatz> the crash in /var/log/installed/debug is:
[07:41] <mkatz> OSError: [Errno: 21] Is a directory '/target/usr/local/man'
[07:41] <mkatz> (os.unlink(targetpath)) call
[07:42] <mkatz> I'll try telling him not to use /usr/local partition...
[07:42] <hobble> I want to install xchat theme in ubuntu. it says I need to copy over the colors file to /home/username/.xchat2, but I don't know how to get there.
[07:42] <guest0001> how do I edit my login screen
[07:42] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: you said you were trying to keep your /usr/local ... maybe the privileges are for a different user number (mapped for root under your previous fedora)
[07:43] <hobble> guest0001, administration > login screen
[07:43] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: try coping your /usr/local to a /home folder and formart it during the next install attempt...
[07:43] <mkatz> PRJ: they are for root, of course. Root manages /usr/local
[07:43] <mkatz> PRJ: I'll just tell ubuntu not to use it and mount it later...
[07:44] <hobble> any help from anyone?
[07:44] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: but the ID of the users may differ from installation to installation, including the root... there could be something there that ubiquity is not able to overwrite
[07:44] <guest0001> i just want to edit the way my login screen looks
[07:44] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: could work...
[07:45] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: only error was under /usr/local/man ?
[07:45] <mkatz> I'll see fresh ones this time
[07:45] <guest0001> i guess i just have to change the theme
[07:46] <mkatz> install set off...
[07:46] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: sure :D let us know how it goes anyway
[07:46] <hobble> PresuntoRJ, can you help to get to the /home/username/.xchat2 location. I don't know how.
[07:47] <Chr|s> !gtalk
[07:47] <Chr|s> bummer :(
[07:47] <Chr|s> Does Empathy have an option for gtalk? I haven't looked yet
[07:48] <PresuntoRJ> hobble: how come?
[07:48] <hobble> Chr|s, yes.
[07:48] <x-izzy> hi chris
[07:48] <hobble> PresuntoRJ, to install a xchat there.
[07:48] <hobble> graphically.
[07:48] <PresuntoRJ> Chr|s: yeap... really usefull and easy to setup
[07:48] <Chr|s> Thanks
[07:49] <hobble> PresuntoRJ, but if you tell me the way with command thats okay too. but I prefer the graphical way.
[07:51] <PresuntoRJ> hobble: it's been sometime i try to use xchat... there is a package for that... in the shell you can try $sudo apt-get install xchat ... both the synaptic and "Ubuntu Software Center" have the same package listed... once installed, most options can be set under the GUI...
[07:52] <hobble> PresuntoRJ, yes i know that. but how can I get to that location?
[07:52] <bonks> What's the command to view current cpu and memory usage?
[07:52] <PresuntoRJ> still, its a matter of opinion, the IRC work under empathy as well (the default client pre-installed with ubuntu)
[07:53] <PresuntoRJ> hobble: sorry... I think I missid something in the translation... do you need help installing it, setting it up, or using it?
[07:53] <mneptok> bonks: top
[07:53] <mneptok> bonks: but install htop. it's far better IMO.
[07:53] <pfifo> hobble press ctrl+h in nautilus to show hidden files
[07:54] <bonks> mneptok: oooh nice. htop looks perfect! thank you
[07:55] <ancanta> hi, i want to mv lets say file5 till file15 ...
[07:55] <hobble> pfifo and PresuntoRJ yes thats what I wanted. Ctrl + H :p
[07:55] <hobble> thanks to both of you.
[07:55] <PresuntoRJ> hobble: :D
[07:55] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: thanx
[07:55] <pfifo> of course
[07:56] <PresuntoRJ> hobble: now it makes sense... :-/
[07:56] <PresuntoRJ> lol
[07:56] <hobble> :)
[07:56] <pfifo> ancanta, mv file[5-15].txt somedir/
[07:56] <phychole> hi
[07:56]  * phychole here
[07:57] <PresuntoRJ> !hi | phychole
[07:57] <x-izzy> =n
[07:57] <x-izzy> +n
[07:58] <mkatz> btw is there a way to seamlessly convert an ext3 partition to ext4?
[07:58] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: yeap
[07:58] <mkatz> i.e. without formatting it
[07:58] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: yeap still
[07:58] <mkatz> o! installation finished
[07:59] <x-izzy> need help here
[07:59] <x-izzy> i m new to irc
[07:59] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: there is a little gotcha... the previous files in the partition wont be able to get all ext4 advantages, only the newer ones, after convertion
[07:59] <mkatz> I guess you need to add to installation instructions advice to disable all old partitions and remount them later
[07:59] <phychole> anybody help me
[07:59] <saltedfish_> !ask | x-izzy
[07:59] <industrial> I want to edit files over SSH (a lot) and I need a good environment for it. Unfortunately I think my main editor (vim) just sucks at this. netrw is annoying and I'd rather have nautilus for managing files to open etc. if I use the gnome connect to (~/.gvfs) and try and drag a file into gvim then it won't open the file. This is annoying. How do I get to the mounted SSH tree with gedit?
[07:59] <phychole> how to restore my ubuntu
[07:59] <mkatz> PRJ: oh, then it's not worth the try
[07:59] <PresuntoRJ> !details | phychole
[07:59] <x-izzy> kk
[08:00] <mkatz> sshfs?
[08:00] <x-izzy> hey i am lukin for this room irc.crimeirc.net
[08:00] <mkatz> industrial: a robust way is emacs + tramp
[08:00] <phychole> kk
[08:00] <industrial> mkatz: I don't fly with emacs unfortunately.
[08:01] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: I did get a new partition (from a new disk) formated to etx4, moves my /home there, on the livecd, edited my /etc/fstab, and got the full mounthy working... later the old partition was redistributed to the other folders
[08:01] <Chr|s> x-izzy that isn't a room, that is a link to a server for irc
[08:01] <industrial> mkatz: what is tramp, however?
[08:01] <mkatz> industrial: a ssh plugin for emacs
[08:01] <x-izzy> hw do i get there?
[08:01] <industrial> oki
[08:01] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: but the simple convertion also works...
[08:01] <mkatz> industrial: supersedes old ange-ftp
[08:01] <mkatz> PRJ: less urgent for me right now
[08:01] <Chr|s> x-izzy: make a new server window then /server irc.crimeirc.net
[08:02] <industrial> mkatz: right now I am using SSHFS and AUTOFS but that's annoying to edit the config and restart the service just to mount some SSH dir
[08:02] <Chr|s> !irc | x-izzy
[08:02] <pfifo> industrial, why is the tree not in gedit? should be in the open/save dialog if it is mounted on your filesystem
[08:02] <mkatz> PRJ: install over, fine, thanks for your time, and please propagate this case to the knowledge base
[08:02] <industrial> pfifo: its mounted under ~/.gvfs afaik, and that tree viewer apparently cant see hidden files/dirs.
[08:03] <x-izzy> how do i add it
[08:03] <x-izzy> thats my prob
[08:03] <industrial> oh, it can
[08:03] <industrial> :P
[08:03] <Chr|s> x-izzy: add it to what? please explain what you are trying to do
[08:03] <industrial> never mind then ;o
[08:03] <saltedfish_> x-izzy, look at the menu Xchat > new > server
[08:03] <Blue1> !10.10
[08:03] <Coronade> !10.10
[08:03] <pfifo> industrial, use mount with the --bind option to mount it in a more convient place, or use ctrl+h to show hidden files
[08:04] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: you could open a bug report in the ubiquity package, using the apport application, describing the expected behavior and what you had to do you work around it
[08:04] <PresuntoRJ> !bug | mkatz
[08:04] <nadeem> i want to ask about download managers in linux
[08:04] <nadeem> as i can see flashget or IDM is better and faster
[08:04] <Chr|s> nadeem: go ahead and ask instead of saying you are going to ask :)
[08:05] <Chris_Psycho> Sweet it's working... Uhm am I in the right place? Is this just a 'general' ubuntu irc channel?
[08:05] <nadeem> do linux has a good download manager as IDM and flashget
[08:05] <saltedfish_> !ask | nadeem
[08:05] <saltedfish_> nadeem gnome download manager is gwget.
[08:05] <pfifo> i say we order a pizza, its looking like its going to be a long night
[08:06] <mkatz> PRJ: it's a disappiointment though that we don't have a direct upgrade from Fedora to Ubuntu
[08:06] <x-izzy> it just opens a plain window
[08:06] <x-izzy> so how do i add the server there?
[08:06] <nadeem> saltedfish_ i didn try it but there is no multiple connection in it
[08:06] <PresuntoRJ> nadeem: yeap, what do you need it for? under the GUI you could try gwget ! not installed by default but a simple command away... under the shell (CLI)  there is the wget and also curl ...
[08:06] <nadeem> so speed are limited
[08:06] <Chr|s> x-izzy: it shouldn't open a blank window
[08:06] <Chr|s> in the blank window connect to it /server irc.crimeirc.net
[08:07] <Chr|s> x-izzy: are yout rying to add it to your favorites?
[08:07] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: I hate to tell you, but that does not make any sense... its almost like you wanted a direct upgrade from Solaris to MacOSX
[08:07] <x-izzy> nope
[08:07] <x-izzy> add server tab is what i saw
[08:07] <x-izzy> and then it opens a <none>
[08:07] <mkatz> PRJ: it has any sense
[08:08] <mkatz> PRJ: preserve my /etc/ config and install the packages according to my RPM base.
[08:08] <saltedfish_> x-izzy,  type this   /server irc.crimeirc.net and press enter in new server window
[08:08] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: they are both linux, but the similarities pretty much end up there... different package control systems, different directory hierarchy, different security sub-systems, different ACL, ... the list goes on and on
[08:08] <x-izzy> kk
[08:08] <Chris_Psycho> Guys I'm a bit new to ubuntu, and was wondering, would it be possible to make 'setup/install' files for software packages from the repository?
[08:08] <mkatz> PRJ: if you think Fedora and Ubuntu are as apart as Mac and Solaris it's a pity
[08:08] <sinister> good morning everyone
[08:09] <x-izzy> u're the best
[08:09] <mkatz> PRJ: you overestimate the differences :)
[08:09] <sinister> have a question, and i done search the forum s for the past hour.
[08:09] <pfifo> nadeem, i would look through the available firefox plugins, it wouldnt seem like you need a full fledged program for that unless your trying to limit ALL bandwidth, in which case we have the ULTRA powerful iptables firewall
[08:09] <x-izzy> 10nks a million
[08:09] <Chr|s> I thought I said the same thing, I guess I have to be more specific next time :)
[08:09] <x-izzy> can we b friends and u teach me more about mirc?
[08:10] <sinister> how can i change the boot screen before the log in screen. I don't have grub because ubuntu is the only thing installed on this puter
[08:10] <x-izzy> dn't know anything about it
[08:10] <x-izzy> but love it
[08:10] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: well, I meant, they are both unix, both System5, but as Ubuntu from Fedora, also different directory hierarchy, different ACL, different security systems, different package control system
[08:10] <thune3> Chris_Psycho: you want to download and compile software from ubuntu source?
[08:10] <x-izzy> just started usin ubuntu
[08:10] <saltedfish_> x-izzy, !who
[08:10] <nadeem> thx guys for help
[08:11] <pfifo> asus never quits
[08:11] <pfifo> blasphemy
[08:11] <bazhang> !ot | pfifo
[08:11] <Chris_Psycho> Uhm... I'm not sure what exactly that means but. Instead of using the ubuntu software manager or the apt-get from the terminal. Could you make 'setup' files for 'packages'?
[08:11] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: of course I do... the kernel is the OS, but the OS does not much without the programs to control it... those diferences end up basicaly on completely different /etc files in most cases... from syslog to shadow... including apache
[08:11] <x-izzy> u
[08:11] <x-izzy> thanks for the tutorial
[08:12] <Chr|s> !ubottu | x-izzy
[08:12] <thune3> Chris_Psycho: i'm still no following exacty. you can use checkinstall to turn software you compile into .debs that the package manager can install/uninstall and keep track of
[08:12]  * Sargun_Screen is beginning to regret upgrading to 10.04
[08:13] <sinister> how can i change the boot screen before the login screen, I don't have grub or lilo, ubuntu is the only thing installed
[08:13] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: they are both great OSs, don't get me wrong, but really, not the same...for instance, even SuSE and Fedora, which both uses rpm for the programs, in most cases, you cannot use a rpm from on OS in the other... let alone a DEB file
[08:13] <Chr|s> !gdm2setup
[08:14] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: there are different goals in the various communities... they are not wrong, just different
[08:14] <thune3> Chris_Psycho: sorry, what you mean by "'setup' files for 'packages'" is not clear to me
[08:14] <Chr|s> sinister: try googling gdm2setup. Ubuntu 10.04 didn't implement boot themes to be loaded up by default
[08:14] <Chr|s> that program is user made from ubuntu forums
[08:15] <sinister> k i will thanxs chr|s
[08:15] <Chris_Psycho> Thune3: Hmmm... Let me see if i can make an example. Say i just made a fresh install of ubuntu, and i want to install: Opera, Skype, and some needed 'packages'... Could i 'bundle' it into one 'setup file' and by double clicking on it, it would install everything? Just sort of like a regular installer file for windows?
[08:16] <mkatz> PRJ: yet, understand me, getting a list of installed RPMs and suggest installing equivalents is useful
[08:16] <mkatz> PRJ: as well as preserving the /etc configuration
[08:16] <mkatz> not as preserving files, but as configuration essense, rebuilding it accordingly
[08:16] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: most debian derivates work similarly, but even then, there could be a few differences... I know for a fact Tomcat for Debian wont work under Ubuntu and vice versa... there may be others packages as well
[08:17] <thune3> Chris_Psycho: you could just put the apt-get command in a simple script and make it executable.
[08:17] <Chris_Psycho> What exactly is a package? A software 'library'? Like a class file?
[08:17] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: that would be an interesting project for someone with skills on both scenarios to "translate" the differences into a coherent migration script...
[08:17] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, yes you can, but if your not familiar with how to build software for source you will be utterly confused with how to build your own packages with dpkg
[08:18] <mkatz> PRJ: the alienation between the communities is such that there aren't many people like that?
[08:18] <Chris_Psycho> Would that work without an internet connection? And somehow if you downloaded the specific files (tar/zip/bz2? files) and you made apt-get 'point' to them?
[08:18] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: I think I see a blueprint in the horizon
[08:19] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: one can only dream
[08:20] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: at least the source codes are still shared... ;)
[08:20] <Chris_Psycho> But it is possible? Not that I want to build something like that myself. I'm just interested if it can be done.
[08:21] <Chris_Psycho> Like is the idea just not very practical? Sort of complicates things?
[08:21] <Chris_Psycho> Just thinking if there is an 'simple' alternative way to get software/packages without using a 'package manager/apt-get'?
[08:22] <saltedfish_> Chris_Psycho, what is more simple than package manager?
[08:22] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, a debian package is just a gzipped filearchive with a configuration file in it. You can make it add any file anywhere in the system, so basicly you could merge mutiple packages into one, but we dont do that cause have them all seprate allows you to install only what you need.
[08:22] <Chris_Psycho> Offline package manager?
[08:23] <jk70> Centos does something similar with RedHat.
[08:24] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: really, the package is the simple way... it solved most conflicts and get all the dependencies... I can only imagine the nightmare you could get doind it manually... I have been using Linux and Unix since 1994... unless the tgz is pretty well managed by a similar process that the package system (like BSD does with ports and packages) its just crazy to go back to sourcecode
[08:24] <Hootch> hey folks, i installed cron-apt on my system. Every run of cron-apt additional disk space will be used? it needs space without changes in packages ... how can i fix it or is it normal?
[08:24] <Chris_Psycho> I see....
[08:24] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, you can goto the ubunto repository and downlod all the package and burn them to a BDrom if you wanted, then install them anytime without internet, but in this day and age you can stay upto date and save your disks cause everyone is always connected
[08:25] <Chris_Psycho> BDrom?
[08:25] <pfifo> BluRay Disk
[08:25] <Chris_Psycho> Oh haha was about to google that...
[08:25] <thune3> Chris_Psycho: the normal recommendation for that is AptonCD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD. i've never used it. you can take an updated system and propagate updates to offline systems.
[08:25] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: if you want to get the absolutely best performance people claim from compiling the code localy (instead of the general compilation from the binary downloaded) you could also use the src from apt ... the controls would still be there (for dependencies and other known issues)
[08:25] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, the repo is many many gigabytes, hundreds maybe even thousands of packages
[08:27] <jk70> Debian does it with DVD's ,so you can update offline.
[08:28] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: and the small price you pay is that you have to learn a little bureaucracy for the apt-get commands (under the debian umbrella, like ubuntu is) and get a pretty stable installation/deinstallation/upgrade/control system
[08:28] <Chris_Psycho> pfifo: But only downloading the ones you want.
[08:28] <Chris_Psycho> Presontorj: You lost me...
[08:29] <Chris_Psycho> Regarding your "if you want to get the absolutely best performance"
[08:29] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, only the ones you want, and all of their dependencies.
[08:29]  * Sargun_Screen thinks he has ANOTHER bad mobo
[08:30] <Chris_Psycho> Dependencies are just packages required by other packages right?
[08:30] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, yes, basicly
[08:31] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho, pfifo: if you have a huge HDD and internet access, you can try apt-offline ... but the only advantage would be if you eventually end up in a giant environment where the download from the official repositories could be a problem... even then, you would need to upgrade your "mirror" regularly, and avoid changing the location for the security upgrades, and keep getting them from the official locations
[08:32] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: people claim that there is a marginal gain in performance when you compile the binary of every application locally, only using your installed libraries and totaly focused on you actual CPU, instead of a generic i386 target...
[08:32] <Chris_Psycho> Cool... So are packages downloaded via the package manager all in source?
[08:33] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: the way Gentoo does
[08:33] <Chris_Psycho> I see... That wasn't really y concern so... But thank you :)
[08:33] <Chris_Psycho> *my concern
[08:34] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: yes, you could download the src with the package management system, apt-src, but it would take almos 3 days to compile apache2 and a few modules, instead of 2 minutes downloading it
[08:34] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: on a good and fast system
[08:34] <crf> what is tracker indexer doing when it indexes photos?
[08:34] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, debian packages can contain both percompiled binaries, or source code. Under normal operation you get precompiled binaries
[08:35] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: packages are usually binary, pre-compiled, unless you ask for the source instead, to compile locally...
[08:36] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, no not 3 days PresuntoRJ is exaggerating. Apache would compile in no more than an hour in a quad core machine, most packages take only a few minutes
[08:36] <Sargun_Screen> PresuntoRJ: in some cases that can be very true
[08:36] <Sargun_Screen> in most, not so much
[08:37] <ptDDev> hello
[08:37] <ptDDev> how can i enable icons display in menus?
[08:37] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: the exageration depends on what is a good system, and what is a decent system... i do not own a quad system (yet) and even then, every report /i get, the advantages are usually marginal, and for some kinds of programs only (not every time) - even with -O2 enabled
[08:38] <Chris_Psycho> Sorry get disconnected. Thank you for explaining!
[08:38] <PresuntoRJ> Sargun_Screen:  thanx
[08:39] <PresuntoRJ> Sargun_Screen: I will try compiling more often to update my concepts
[08:39] <ptDDev> gnome used to have a "menus and toolbars" setting somewhere, but i can't find it ubuntu 10.04
[08:39] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: I think Chris was disconnected during your last comments
[08:40] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, the main advantage to compiling your own programs it to add useful features or remove useless ones, for example the ffmpeg package in universe dosen not support faad2 due to licensing terms, therefor if you want to make ipod videos you need to compile by source (however Im not sure if that is still the case in 10.04)
[08:40] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: can't you get the same result installing the faad2 package?
[08:41] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, no
[08:41] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: I see
[08:41] <mkatz> pfifo: what keeps you from having a /usr/bin standard packages that some other utility may use and a /usr/local/bin your own tuned copy?
[08:41] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: did not know that, then again, I dont have an iPod
[08:41] <jk70> ptDDev,it,s right and left cliking the mouse now.
[08:41] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: never had to try it
[08:41] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, its not a codec type of issue like most players, you need to specifically have enable support for it at compile time
[08:42] <mkatz> like I usually have two perls in the system
[08:42] <pfifo> I make my oen php, cause i dont like the modular system
[08:42] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: the orther they are searched by the $PATH
[08:43] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: you get only the first one...
[08:43] <mkatz> PRJ: manipulate the path :)
[08:43] <Chris_Psycho> Oh that reminds me, i installed xfce ontop of my ubuntu 10.04. (Though it showed I installed 'xubuntu' rather).. So anyway, when logging into the 'xubuntu' session, its allot slower? Any reason why?
[08:43] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: usually the ones under /usr/local
[08:43] <ptDDev> jk78: what do you mean? where?
[08:43] <mkatz> PRJ: if you are smart enough to compile, you're smart enough to handle path
[08:44] <Chris_Psycho> Compared to Gnome.. Specially firefox, scrolling pages just is not very smooth.
[08:44] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: of course... but only one "perl" will be available by default
[08:44] <mkatz> PRJ: I like in solaris, though, that gnu utuilities get 'g' prepended. So you can use gnu tar directly with gnutar, grep with ggrep etc.
[08:44] <mkatz> and tar, grep default to solaris utils
[08:44] <mkatz> PRJ: by default system-provided perl should be available for consistency.
[08:44] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: you could also set in the scripts, first line... #/usr/local/bin/perl
[08:44] <mkatz> PRJ: ughmm... I develop perl for something like 16 years ;)
[08:45] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: sorry, had no idea... :D
[08:45] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: I think you could get the "other" perl running from /opt
[08:46] <jk70> ptDDev I was just reading up on it ,so I haven't got it right yet.Try right clicking the mouse.
[08:46] <mkatz> PRJ: I am the /usr/local person
[08:46] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: but usually, different versions could have different package numbers
[08:46] <mkatz> PRJ: old habits die hard. I don't use any desktop environment, only a light window manager
[08:46] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, im not sure about that one, ive never used both xfce and gnome on a single ubuntu install. If you want xfce as your window manager you should install xubuntu or mint with xfce
[08:46] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: have a look at $ apt-cache search python
[08:47] <ptDDev> jk70, it just brings the context menu, but i can't restore the menu icons this way
[08:47] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: you have 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 3, 3.1
[08:47] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: maybe there is a similar multitude for perl
[08:48] <jk70> ptDDev right it doesn't work for what you want
[08:48] <PresuntoRJ> mkatz: and if so, you could keep every one you wants, and call the correct one from its name
[08:48] <Chris_Psycho> I seee...
[08:49] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: you could get it running pretty effortlessly with $ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ... I think it's still true
[08:49] <Chris_Psycho> Cool looked into Mint earlier on.. Thinking of giving it a go along with Mint with XFCE, and LXDE.
[08:49] <Chris_Psycho> Presuntorj: That's what I did!
[08:50] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: and there is also Lubuntu
[08:50] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, I believe thats what Chris_Psycho did but is not getting the performance that was expected
[08:50] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: I think it asks if you want to keep the gdm and default, and adds a list for the window manager during the login (to choose instead of gnome)
[08:51] <ptDDev> jk70:
[08:51] <ptDDev> jk70: found it! in gcong-editor, check /desktop/gnome/interface/menu-have-icons
[08:51] <ptDDev> :)
[08:51] <Chris_Psycho> I do have a list for choosing grome/gnome failsafe/xubuntu and a few others? if that helps ..
[08:52] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: lubuntu and xubuntu are both lightweight and good... usually lubuntu is a bit better and less limitted that xubuntu... you can also try othe not so conventinal managers, like fluxbox
[08:53] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: give a try, at least for a while... beware that it may remove a few ubuntu-desktop applications... gnome-network-manager is one that occurs to me
[08:54] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: if you want to get back to gnome, you may need to forcefully reinstall ubuntu-desktop metapackage to complete its dependencies again
[08:54] <Chris_Psycho> Presuntorj: Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE right? Isn't LXDE more 'limited' than XFCE? And you mention give a try .. Give what a try? Lubuntu?
[08:55] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: or friend coz_ also claims edubuntu is a bit lighter on systems than the original ubuntu (both gnome) but my testes are still incomplete to confirm or deny it
[08:55] <Chris_Psycho> I am using gnome right now? Uhm atleast as far as I know?
[08:56] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: the manager is more limited, but the default softwares might not be... give it a try on both... even kde (kubuntu)... yes, lubuntu is for lxde
[08:56] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: I really miss CDE ;)
[08:57] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: was it installed from Ubuntu discs?
[08:57] <Chris_Psycho> Presuntorj: By limited you mean not as compatible?
[08:57] <x-izzy> how do i check for different rooms in a channel?
[08:57] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: they are all compatible, only the defalt applications and libraries they come pre-installed with that might differt
[08:58] <Chris_Psycho> Cool.
[08:58] <pfifo> x-izzy, /list
[08:58] <x-izzy> kk
[08:58] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: where gnome have the Nautilus (file manager), kde have dolphin and konkeror, xubuntu have Filemanager, and lubuntu I dont recall the name
[08:58] <Chris_Psycho> Might give Mint LXDE a try then :D. Compatibility was my only concern. So I could just install any application that are not bundled with?
[08:59] <sinister> i installed the GDM2setup and when I went in to change the wallpaper I click on either OK or CANCEL and it's not accepting the button click
[08:59] <PresuntoRJ> but the momment you install the first kde app, the kde libraries are installed as dependencies and every kde app will become compatible (magic of the package management system)
[08:59] <x-izzy> i m in a server but need to see if there are more rooms
[09:00] <x-izzy> wat do i do ?
[09:00] <pfifo> x-izzy, you can also get a searchable list of channels in the server menu
[09:00] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: the same is true for xubuntu (XDE) and lubuntu (LXDE)
[09:00] <x-izzy> i am in a server
[09:00] <Chris_Psycho> Cool will give download them hopefully soon. Thanks..
[09:01] <x-izzy> need where to find hackers
[09:01] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: then you can keep using the app you preffer, but you may end up with at least a couple which do basically the same (like managing files)
[09:01] <pfifo> x-izzy, click on the server button at the top, then click 'list of channels'
[09:01] <jk70> ptDDev:can't find gcong -editor
[09:01] <sinister> GSM2setup let me change the login screen wallpaper, but I want to change the screen before the login screen the boot screen with the Ubuntu symbol and 5 dot's under it
[09:01] <ptDDev> gconf-editor
[09:02] <PresuntoRJ> jk70: run it on a shell or press Alt+F2 and run it there
[09:02] <Chris_Psycho> Are paid applications as open and acceptable as opensource applications on ubuntu? I mean is there anything from discouraging companies for selling software on ubuntu/linux?
[09:02] <PresuntoRJ> jk70: its a command with a dash on the name, not an option, ok?
[09:02] <x-izzy> how do i know which is for spammers and hackers dat sell
[09:02] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: yes... but are not that many
[09:02] <Chris_Psycho> Hmmm pity...
[09:03] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, thats completely acceptable, and there are many commercial apps for linux
[09:03] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: Oracle is fully supported and way expensive
[09:03] <jk70> Okey dokey
[09:03] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: even Canonical (the mother company of Ubuntu) have paid apps, like Landscape
[09:04] <Chris_Psycho> Cool cool. Pity that they are not adopting it... Do you think that will change?
[09:04] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: sometimes they are not paid per-se, to use, but to get support only... it depends on the company licensing politics
[09:04] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, adopting what? Most software that is commercial also offer a stripped down opensource version
[09:05] <Alexander_> I just re installed ubuntu how do I get wireless to work?
[09:05] <Alexander_> I have it enabled and all that but no network appear
[09:05] <x-izzy> need spammers and hackers channel-any help?
[09:05] <PresuntoRJ> Alexander_: it could be a propretary driver for it to work... try system/admin menu... hardware drivers applet
[09:06] <pfifo> x-izzy, you wont find anything like that on this network.
[09:06] <Chris_Psycho> Pfifo: Adopting linux/ubuntu as a platform for their software.
[09:06] <x-izzy> where can i?
[09:06] <PresuntoRJ> Alexander_: it works out of the box for a laptop I have, but not for my mom's, it need the propretary one
[09:06] <iceman_3233> get lost x-izzy noob.
[09:07] <Alexander_> PresuntoRJ so I have to plug it into the wall and get the drivers and it'll work?
[09:07] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: still don't get your point... linux is one valid platform for most software vendors...
[09:07] <Chris_Psycho> If you write a username infront of your message does it get sent privately? Or is it just to show to who you are replying to?
[09:07] <pfifo> Chris_Psycho, several major gaming studios are starting to get into releasing games for linux, so yes, in fact the popularity of linux as a desktop is rapidly growing.
[09:07] <ericblair> anyone know how in linux i can 'cat' & also get the filename (So I can type cat *.txt | grep matching text  --- & it will then give me the filenames that the 'matching text' is contained in?
[09:07] <PresuntoRJ> maybe a few game softhouses and Autodesk (Autocad) and a few others don't suppot linux at all
[09:08] <Izinucs> Chris_Psycho: it just highlights the line for the person receiving your message.. keeps it from getting lost in the noise
[09:08] <ericblair> need to find something in multiple files & get the filename that the text is in
[09:08] <PresuntoRJ> try /msg username msg
[09:08] <Chris_Psycho> Presuntorj: Valid I'm sure but not allot of them develop their program for it.
[09:08] <Chris_Psycho> Izinucs: Thanks just checking.
[09:09] <Izinucs> Chris_Psycho: you can also use TAB to auto complete most nicks after the first few characters.
[09:09] <Chris_Psycho> Anyone know what is the estimated number of ubuntu/linux users?
[09:09] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: there are a lot indeed, just not all of them... like not all of them develop for Apple... not all of the develop for Windows... not all of the develop for Web
[09:10] <Chris_Psycho> All I know is that it's around 1% percent of the market share.
[09:10] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: have in mind the openness, almost mandatory in linux, still scares a few of them...
[09:10] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: or maybe, it just does not make commercial sense for them yet
[09:10] <pLr> Chris_Psycho: Ubuntu talks about that every so often on their news
[09:11] <Chris_Psycho> Presuntorj: You mean the openness scares the developers?
[09:11] <HinHin> haha
[09:11] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: Not the developers, the commercial softhouses...
[09:11] <Chris_Psycho> Oh right..
[09:12] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: the GPL licensing scheme itself might be missleading a few of them away...
[09:12] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: not by itself, but by the way they might be interpreting it...
[09:13] <Chris_Psycho> How many people have you converted to using linux? Just curious.. I just installed linux like few months age. But now I'm pretty much using it all the time.
[09:13] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: its not against profit at all... and you are not obligated to follow it unless you are using a portion of a code that is already in it
[09:13] <ericblair> chris the largest number of servers on the web --
[09:13] <ericblair> web servers
[09:13] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: zero... its not a religion, you n=know
[09:13] <ericblair> all linux (for instance)
[09:13] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: its a Operating System...
[09:14] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: sometimes its the best, for some situations, sometimes it might not be the best
[09:14] <ericblair> i disagree with that presunturj i would not touch windows for anything
[09:14] <X-2> morning =]
[09:15] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: at most, the filosofy that comes along with it, and the comunity willing to help createvely also helps... but thats the most I can tell
[09:15] <Chris_Psycho> lol what should I have used :P? Convinced?
[09:15] <zamba> should /etc/hostname be a FQDN or just the host portion?
[09:16] <PresuntoRJ> ericblair: Windows is not the only alternative, you know... and yes, I do use Windows for a lot of stuff where windows is decent, where the client has paid for it, where it makes sense
[09:17] <Chris_Psycho> Is there a way to turn off notificatios? That x user has joined? I'm using Xchat?
[09:17] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: what do you want your computer for? does linux provide it? is it usable after the configs are set? are you willing to pay fees for some peace of mind (and people do it)
[09:18] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: ubuntu is my anwser for personal laptops, desktops and servers... but I am not you
[09:18] <X-2> The only thing I still use Windows for, are my games, but otherwise I'd have Linux on my other PC too.
[09:19] <Chris_Psycho> LoL pretty much. Just use windows for games/adobe stuff/fruityloops.
[09:19] <abood> hi is there any program can make my cam to web cam ?
[09:19] <rnewson> hi. has anyone encountered (and solved) display issues performing a PXE-based install of ubuntu server via HP's iLO interface? The usual tricks (vga=normal, fb=false, etc) didn't help (though they did for a Debian install).
[09:19] <X-2> Fruityloops \o/
[09:19] <PresuntoRJ> X-2: yeap, games are still one case ... but might not be the only one... i have to use windows for CAD (Autocad and Intellicad and Progecad)
[09:19] <Chris_Psycho> LoL it's fun to mess around with
[09:20] <pfifo> X-2 fruityloops emulates pretty good, ableton as well
[09:20] <X-2> PresuntoRJ: Ah, yeah I tend to use 3dsmax, but I haven't really played with it anymore
[09:20] <PresuntoRJ> X-2: I also use windows for ekahau wifi heatmap
[09:20] <X-2> pfifo: I think some VST's might do odd, but I havent tried it :-)
[09:20] <Chris_Psycho> x-2 fruity loops? huh what?
[09:21] <X-2> Chris_Psycho: That's a program for making your own songs
[09:21] <Chris_Psycho> oh right sorry i thought your username was something... whoops.
[09:21] <PresuntoRJ> X-2: I also HAVE TO use windows for my line6 ASIO sound interface... recording guitar... they refuse to support linux at all
[09:22] <X-2> PresuntoRJ: I wish I had such a gear :-(
[09:22] <pfifo> X-2, ubuntu studio has several options for drum machines and step sequencers
[09:22] <X-2> Chris_Psycho: Lol no worries mate :)
[09:22] <Chris_Psycho> Is there a way to turn off notificatios? Always adding a message when a user joins.
[09:22] <PresuntoRJ> X-2: i know now there are an alternative that supports linux... don't recall the name...
[09:22] <Chris_Psycho> To prevent always adding a message when a user joins I meant..
[09:23] <Izinucs> Chris_Psycho: what clien are you using?
[09:23] <guest0000001> i have a wired connection with my laptop can someone tell me how to get my wireless internet to work
[09:23] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: have no idea... it disturbs me a lot too... and I am on empathy... I believe its the default protocol behavior
[09:23] <Izinucs> *cliient
[09:23] <Chris_Psycho> For fruityloops? LMMS is an alternative I found.
[09:23] <X-2> Xchat hes using
[09:23] <Chris_Psycho> Izinucs: Xchat..
[09:23] <PresuntoRJ> !details| guest0000001
[09:24] <Izinucs> Chris_Psycho: I think you can right mouse click on the channel and tell it to ignore Joins parts quits
[09:24] <PresuntoRJ> Chris_Psycho: also jokosher
[09:24] <guest0000001> i have a problem with connecting to the internet i'm using ubuntu version 10.4
[09:24] <Chris_Psycho> Wooot woot! =D
[09:25] <guest0000001> i think i need to update something
[09:25] <Chris_Psycho> Izinucs: Thank you!
[09:25] <Izinucs> Chris_Psycho: np :) .. when you get adventurous try irssi sometime
[09:26] <ethan_> .
[09:26] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: do you know the wifi brand? it could need a proprietary driver...if so, you could try running the hardware drivers applet located on the system/admin menu
[09:26] <X-2> I like XChat too :)
[09:26] <ethan_> help
[09:26] <guest0000001> i fixed it before by typing some type of update command in terminal
[09:26] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: if it does not work, you might need to install a windows driver to work with linux via ndiswrapper
[09:27] <PresuntoRJ> !ask | ethan
[09:27] <PresuntoRJ> !details | ethan_
[09:27] <PresuntoRJ> !hi | ethan_
[09:27] <X-2> PresuntoRJ: I like that bot. Lol
[09:28] <guest0000001> can someone tell me how to  update my machine at the command line?
[09:28] <PresuntoRJ> X-2: sure helps
[09:28] <sisterd> hi guys. i'm running ubuntu 10.04 and have changed my password, however the original one keeps being required by "keyring" and I can't find how to access "keyring" password preferences to change it?
[09:28] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: is your wifi working now?
[09:28] <guest0000001> no
[09:28] <guest0000001> only wired works
[09:29] <Izinucs> sisterd: applications>accessories there's a password manager
[09:29] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: do you need to get to the latest ubuntu version? or are you already there, but want the latest packages with it?
[09:29] <guest0000001> i want the latest packages with it
[09:29] <sisterd> lzinucs: thank you i will try that one next!
[09:29] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: via CLI (shell) you could try $ sudo apt-get update
[09:29] <Izinucs> guest0000001: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:29] <guest0000001> thank you
[09:29] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: followed by $ sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:30] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: the first teaches your system what is available...
[09:30] <Izinucs> followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:30] <sd-d_> how to find other irc chennels i m using xchat irc client ??
[09:30] <PresuntoRJ> guest0000001: the second, will actually download them
[09:30] <Izinucs> or string them all together seperated by &&
[09:31] <Izinucs> dist-upgrade with install newer versions of programs already on your system if they are available.
[09:32] <PresuntoRJ> Izinucs: usually the system related ones
[09:32] <ychoucha> bonjour
[09:32] <Izinucs> PresuntoRJ: but not always....
[09:32] <Izinucs> ciao
[09:33] <PresuntoRJ> hi
[09:33] <mae_tae> hallo people, is there an application that can also control all webmins on different machines
[09:33] <kindofabuzz> would installing ubuntu with wubi have better performance than on an USB hard drive?
[09:33] <rami> hi guys, been getting this error after updating for quite some time "E: linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 & E: initramfs-tools: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" that kernel obviously doesn't work
[09:33] <ldiaz> hi
[09:33] <PresuntoRJ> kindofabuzz: no... just the same (performace)
[09:34] <sisterd> ok. next question: I'm using a Dell Dimension 2400 with a Compaq FS7600 CRT monitor. Everything works for about an hour (i'm on it now) before the monitor starts going berk, black with a white huge barcode on the top half. Ideas?
[09:34] <sisterd> (on ubuntu 10.04 or linuxmint 9, which i had tried first.
[09:34] <kindofabuzz> PresuntoRJ: well i know usb has some limitations so i was thinking wubi would actually be a little quicer
[09:34] <PresuntoRJ> kindofabuzz: the disatvantage would the the filesystem (wubi actually runs a fake filesystem inside the NTFS file, like a virtual disk)
[09:35] <PresuntoRJ> kindofabuzz: the good part, its easy to uninstall if you need to and don't mess with partitions...
[09:35] <sd-d_> how to install vb.net in ubuntu 10
[09:35] <kindofabuzz> PresuntoRJ: I have no problem partitoning stuff, just wondering :)
[09:35] <PresuntoRJ> kindofabuzz: to really bad part, Wubi may not work at all (depending on the Windows installation you have)
[09:36] <Scorpion> hi
[09:36] <kindofabuzz> PresuntoRJ: I think I'll stick with the USB HD :)
[09:36] <pfifo> !mono | sd-d_
[09:36] <PresuntoRJ> sd-d_: you dont, but the next best thing, you can get mono... the novel/microsoft kind-of-net replacement
[09:36] <Scorpion> who install oracle 11gR2 on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:37] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: is there a mono in the bot?
[09:37] <sd-d_> PresuntoRJ, but i can install it on ubunut ??
[09:37] <thune3> sisterd: what graphics chip are you running? "lspci | grep VGA"
[09:37] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, yes, somewhere
[09:37] <PresuntoRJ> Scorpion: try the #ubuntu-server
[09:37] <PresuntoRJ> sd-d_: the mono, sure
[09:37] <pfifo> sd-d_, you should first look at what mono can do for you to determine if it meets your needs
[09:38] <houserockr1> the blinking wifi-led is fu**ing annoying, the guy who wrote these lines of code should be slaughtered
[09:38] <sd-d_> pfifo, where can i get mono ??
[09:38] <PresuntoRJ> sd-d_: try $ sudo apt-get install mono moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[09:39] <PresuntoRJ> mono is the dotnet support, moonlight is the silverlight equivalent
[09:39] <pfifo> sd-d_, http://google.com/?q=mono+project
[09:40] <sisterd> thune3: I'm not sure, I think the Dimension graphics are integrated, aka when i read the configuration as shipped it doesn't specify anything separate for the chip
[09:40] <sisterd> thune3: the ubuntu prefs show its using a generic compaq driver... VGA
[09:41] <sd-d_> pfifo,:E: Package mono has no installation candidate
[09:41] <sd-d_>  ubuntu gives me this error
[09:41] <thune3> sisterd: if you're on the machine, it would help if you ran "lspci | grep VGA" and copy/past the line here
[09:41] <sisterd> ok. noob here. how do i open up a command line to do that?
[09:42] <jb__> main menu > accessories > Terminal
[09:42] <jb__> that's in xubuntu
[09:42] <sisterd> thanks jb
[09:43] <pfifo> sd-d_, try apt-cache search mono... and do you have universe and multiverse enables?
[09:43] <sisterd> thun3: it says: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[09:43] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: maybe partner aswell
[09:44] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, i dont know if there is much in partner that is useful, i dont emable it cause ive never needed it
[09:45] <kindofabuzz> since the b* file system will not be in meercat, i can't think of the name, do i need to reinstall if i used that file system for the alphas?
[09:47] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: sun-java6 is only there
[09:49] <sisterd> thune3: typed your name wrong before, perhaps you missed it? the grep replied: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[09:49] <thune3> sisterd: that chipset _could_ be affected by problems Lucid has with the 8xx generation of intel graphics chips. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes. it could be something else though
[09:50] <joljam> I want to install Windows XP and ubuntu 9.10 together as dual boot. should I install XP first and them ubuntu 9.10 or vice versa
[09:50] <joot> widows first
[09:50] <pfifo> joljam, always xp first
[09:50] <thune3> sisterd: the shorthand for you chip is 845G or 845GL
[09:50] <joljam> pfifo after I install XP should i just go ahead and install ubuntu
[09:51] <lelle> joljam: why not 10.04? i think it has long term support = 4 years instead of 2 like 9.10
[09:51] <Leroy> just make sure you leave room for it joljam
[09:51] <pfifo> lelle, 6 months
[09:51] <PresuntoRJ> windows instalation destroys linux boot process... and its a mess to fix later
[09:51] <joljam> lelle .. I am having problems with 10.04 so for the time being I am not using 10.04
[09:51] <lelle> pfifo: 6 months between releases, not community support
[09:51] <lelle> joljam: ok
[09:52] <pfifo> joljam, if your in a hurry to get to the ubuntu install you can start the XP install and then after the first reboot do the ubuntu install, then finish the xp install afterwards
[09:53] <joljam> pfifo then how will I handle the boot loader
[09:53] <Leroy> nice pfifo
[09:53] <Abenhya> cou could just reinstall grub from the ubuntu install disc after xp is installed
[09:56] <pfifo> joljam, windows installs its bootloader when you are finished partitioning, then begins putting a few setup files on the hard drive, and then reboots into the main graphical install program, after that first reboot you dont have to worry about an overwritten bootloader
[09:56] <thechef> How can I configure gnash to use OpenGL as renderer?
[09:57] <sisterd> hi, back, just had to switch computers because that monitor problem hiccuped on just as Thune3 was giving me some information… what was that link again?
[09:57] <sd-d_> how can i install xampp in ubuntu ??? its a server package ??
[09:58] <joljam> pfifo let me try it out.. so what you want me is to install windows first and when the computer reboots midway insert ubuntu and install it and complete ubuntu and then come back and "repair" windows
[09:58] <thune3> sisterd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[09:58] <sisterd> thank you for being so helpful and understanding. reading now...
[09:58] <joljam> "repair" windows installation or continue
[09:58] <joljam> windws install
[09:59] <pfifo> joljam, you would be continuing. however if time is not a factor for you, that is NOT what im reccommending
[09:59] <industrial> Can I update to 10.10 beta from synaptic from 10.04?
[09:59] <pfifo> joljam, i reccommend fully installing windows, and then fully installing linux
[10:00] <pfifo> industrial, ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <joljam> pfifo in fact I did the full installs as you mentioned but then the boot loader got messed up
[10:00] <joljam> finally I managed to boot with a live CD
[10:00] <industrial> pfifo: what? its a simple question for a channel with 300+ people in it ... what the hell.. channels for everything?
[10:00] <industrial> :|
[10:00] <pfifo> !fixmbr | joljam
[10:01] <pfifo> industrial, short answer is no, not yet
[10:01] <sisterd> thune3: this site has suggestions, but even the basic instructions require me to know something about my pc that I don't know… eg. is it an 8xx i855 chipset or what have you. Do you know how I find that out?
[10:04] <Leroy> sisterd: maybe cat proc/cpuinfo
[10:04] <Leroy> sisterd: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:05] <sisterd> leroy: probably a stupid cquestion, but my processor is an 80532, si that what they are saying when they say i855 or i8sxx?
[10:06] <sisterd> (and, is "GPU" the term for monitor? because reading this website i can't even tell that they are talkinga bout monitor problems...)
[10:06] <thune3> sisterd: 8xx means any chipset in the 800s. You have 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE which qualifies (the 82 a the beginning don't count)
[10:06] <Leroy> yeah what he said. ;)
[10:06] <Leroy> nice thune3
[10:07] <sisterd> thune3 thank you. yeah, i didnt know they were talking about the same thing because i didnt see any 3 digit numbers starting with 8….
[10:07] <sisterd> <— total n00b to linux, here.
[10:07] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: there are still few channels for ubuntu, and only separated by MAJOR subjects... ubuntu for generic questions, ubuntu-server for, you guess, server related questions, ubuntu+1 for next releases, and ubuntu-cloud
[10:08] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: are there any other worth mention ?
[10:08] <sisterd> ok. i will print this page out and try the different options and see where i get. Thanks a million, Thune3 and Leroy!
[10:08] <PresuntoRJ> pfifo: and they have merged recently
[10:09] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, there is also a bunch of #ubuntu-XX where XX is a language
[10:09] <pfifo> !es | PresuntoRJ
[10:10] <pfifo> PresuntoRJ, use /list ubuntu
[10:11] <shleda> hi guys, I want to install java5 on my 10.04 box, but repos have java6 any clue how to do it apart from doing it manually
[10:13] <Leroy> shleda: just googled this. not sure if it will help shleda http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/03/how-to-install-specific-version-of.html
[10:14] <shleda> thanks I will look into it
[10:14] <bisserke> hi. got a question... how come multicast is working on ubuntu without a multicast route in place?
[10:14] <bisserke> route does not show a 224.0.0.0 route...
[10:16] <PresuntoRJ> bisserke: its a avahi/bonjour trick... every ubuntu talks to local networks via host.local address thanks to this multicast sessions
[10:17] <PresuntoRJ> bisserke: check ehterape (a GUI for read network protocols) and you will find them
[10:17] <bisserke> Thx!!! I'll look into that!
[10:18] <geepers> whats up people i got a question
[10:19] <geepers> anyone there
[10:19] <pfifo> !ask | geepers
[10:20] <rgnr> need help with partitioning
[10:20] <rgnr> i wanna know which partitions do i really need to add
[10:20] <pfifo> rgnr, 'need' only /
[10:21] <geepers> well im running ubuntu linux 10.04 in vmware player and id like to enable desktop effects, is there any easy way to enable graphics acceleration?
[10:21] <rgnr> pfifo:  i mean which partitions r good to have
[10:22] <pfifo> geepers, unfortunatly no. vmware isnt made for that type of setup, were really lucky to have a graphical enviroment to begin with
[10:22] <rgnr> pfifo:  like some say only / /home and swap, others add /user /tmp and /var
[10:22] <geepers> what about virtualbox
[10:22] <pfifo> rgnr, it depends on the purpose of your box. what are you using it for?
[10:23] <rgnr> just home usage
[10:23] <pfifo> geepers, sorry, ive never used that. The room is dead right now, you should try again in 4-6 hours
[10:23] <rgnr> pfifo:  simple desktop system
[10:24] <geepers> a simple system is /home and /swap right
[10:24] <rgnr> and /
[10:24] <Gnugelhupf> Just making a screenshot for an article on IRC clients, everyone smile! ;-)
[10:24] <geepers> :)
[10:24] <PresuntoRJ> :D
[10:24] <PresuntoRJ> :-/
[10:24] <viviersf> hi
[10:24] <viviersf> where can i download ubuntu for PS3?
[10:24] <PresuntoRJ> !hi | viviersf
[10:25] <rgnr> somewhere I read that /tmp and /var partitions r good to have for some security reasons
[10:25] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: PS3 is no longer compatible with any other OS
[10:25] <geepers> you cant download ubuntu for ps3, sony recently released an update removing the otheros feature
[10:25] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: sony banned this functionality
[10:25] <Ddorda> is there a documentation for the colors of ls command?
[10:25] <viviersf> i didnt apply that update
[10:25] <pfifo> rgnr, then /home may be of use, having  large home will allow you to store all your stuff in your  home, and if you decide to upgrade or reinstall you can format / but not /home so no need to backup your stuff, also all your settings and customizations are in your home folder to so you dont lose bookmarks and such
[10:25] <Gnugelhupf> fucking sony...
[10:25] <iceroot> Ddorda: man ls i guess
[10:25] <Gnugelhupf> I still have the old firmware with Linux on mine
[10:25] <viviersf> so mine still supports it
[10:25] <Gnugelhupf> still hoping....
[10:25] <geepers> if you didnt apply that update then look for yellowdog linux
[10:25] <Ddorda> iceroot: if it was man ls i wasn't asking :P
[10:25] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: wanna sell me your PS3 ?
[10:26] <viviersf> there was an ubuntu one also
[10:26] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: :D
[10:26] <viviersf> PresuntoRJ, if you wanna ship it from south africa? haha
[10:26] <Gnugelhupf> yeah, but ubuntu for ps3 never really worked, or did it?
[10:26] <rgnr> pfifo:  and what about /boot /tmp /var?
[10:26] <viviersf> rgnr, its good to have a /var parition on servers
[10:26] <Gnugelhupf> i remember i tried 8.10 once, wouldn't even install...
[10:26] <pfifo> rgnr, /tmp should be mounted as a ramdisk that kees your system cleaner. and /var would be for a server that intends to have lots of content mail and logs
[10:26] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: there was a 8.10 version, for sure... never tried one later that that... there are quite a few results when I google for it
[10:27] <Gnugelhupf> there's also fedora and YDL for PS3
[10:27] <PresuntoRJ> Gnugelhupf: yes, it did work
[10:27] <goona> Hey everyone, I'm installing Ubuntu as the last OS in my triple-boot. However, I stupidly forgot to click the box that specifies where GRUB is installed to. So it will now overwrite my Windows bootloader. Is this reversable? This doesn't prevent my Windows partition from booting, it merely makes it go through grub first, which is lame.. So can I remove grub from a windows partition after install? thanks SO much!
[10:27] <Gnugelhupf> i couldn't get it to install for some reason
[10:27] <viviersf> fedora? ugh!
[10:27] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: the thing is, get on compiled for the platform/cpu
[10:27] <pfifo> rgnr, /boot is good for if you have several different distros, they can all share the same boot, also older systems required that /boot be on the first 1024 KB or somthing like that
[10:28] <rgnr> viviersf: pfifo: so I need / /home and /tmp? is no swap ok for 2gb ram?
[10:28] <iceroot> Ddorda: http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/345.html
[10:28] <pfifo> rgnr, no not /tmp ubuntu will handle that on its own
[10:28] <iceroot> Ddorda: if it is not man ls, its google :)
[10:28] <bgy> Hi
[10:28] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: the first hit was http://psubuntu.com/
[10:28] <Gnugelhupf> speaking of bootloaders: just trying to get chameleon from an osx netbook install to boot ubuntu... on a GPT partitioned disk - anyone know where to find info on that?
[10:28] <viviersf> pfifo, yeah boot is good ( depending on which filesytem your root filesystem is )
[10:28] <bgy> How to remove a source add with apt-get ppa: ?
[10:28] <rgnr> pfifo: /tmp hadles swap?
[10:28] <iceroot> account off 0The command 'dircolors' takes its data from the file ~/.dir_colors and
[10:28] <geepers> yellowdog linux has a build specifically for cuda
[10:29] <iceroot> creates an environment variable LS_COLORS.  The command 'ls --color' takes
[10:29] <viviersf> rgnr, its better to still have swap
[10:29] <iceroot> Ddorda: A[A[A[A[A[A
[10:29] <abountu> when I start eclipse there is no Java environment
[10:29] <iceroot> Ddorda: sorry, bad paste but its all in the link
[10:29] <PresuntoRJ> bgy: you could remove the line from the /etc/apt/sources.list or, via GUI
[10:29] <pfifo> rgnr, i dont know why everyone here is so keen on making a swap partition, i use a swapfile. the only advantage to using a partition is if you have a 2nd hard drive on a different bus, and thats only if you actually USE swap anyway
[10:30] <abountu> the java development perspective is missing in eclipse in ubuntu, any idea how to get that?
[10:30] <PresuntoRJ> bgy: get the Software Channels applet from system/admin menu ... change to the Other tab... find the line, press the remove button
[10:30] <bgy> PresuntoRJ, Ok I knew, just got just curios if there was a del-apt-repository command : )
[10:31] <goona> pfifo: Exactly.. why is swap-as-a-partition the default option..?
[10:31] <PresuntoRJ> $sudo apt-get autoremove --purge package ; sudo apt-get install package
[10:31] <Ddorda> iceroot: thanks. what did you search?
[10:31] <viviersf> ok no thx
[10:31] <PresuntoRJ> bgy: never headr of that
[10:31] <viviersf> you have to use 8.10
[10:31] <viviersf> and i dont want to use anything cept ubuntu
[10:31] <PresuntoRJ> bgy: you could file a blueprint for that ;)
[10:31] <pfifo> goona, swap as a partition is a little bit easier todo, thats about it
[10:31] <rgnr> pfifo: viviersf: so how much of /tmp do i need? is 10gb enough?
[10:31]  * viviersf buys a media center pc
[10:31] <iceroot> Ddorda: ls color manpage
[10:31] <viviersf> you dont need tmp?
[10:31] <goona> pfifo: Easier in what way?
[10:31] <viviersf> tmp is automatically a ramdrive?
[10:31] <bgy> PresuntoRJ, what does that mean ?
[10:32] <iceroot> viviersf: you need /tmp and its not a ram-drive
[10:32] <pfifo> rgnr, no your mis understanding, you DONT want tmp to be a partition on your harddrive. you want it to be a ramdisk that resides in system memory so that it gets deleted when you powerdown
[10:32] <pfifo> goona, you dont have to run dd
[10:32] <goona> pfifo: Ahh.
[10:33] <viviersf> well isnt tmp on tmpfs?
[10:33] <viviersf> there is no need in my opinion to have /tmp as its own partition?
[10:33] <rgnr> pfifo: how do I create ramdrive? Is there an option in the installer's pm?
[10:33] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: not always... it could have been changed on your system
[10:33] <viviersf> ok
[10:34] <pfifo> viviersf, rgnr ramdrive/tmpfs their both the same, and you dont have todo anything. by default ubuntu will mount a ramdisk on tmp at boot time
[10:34] <PresuntoRJ> viviersf: the tmpfs is the trick to loose the tmp on every boot, right ?
[10:34] <viviersf> well it does that yes
[10:36] <rgnr> pfifo: u mean I don't have to bother with /tmp and OS handles it automatically?
[10:37] <pfifo> rgnr, thats right, just leave it alone
[10:37] <blinkyb> anyone uses Empathy in here? I just connected to my 2 hotmail accounts and the list doesn't seem to be appearing!
[10:37] <rgnr> pfifo: cool, so everythin I need is only / and /home?
[10:38] <pfifo> rgnr, you only need / but /home will be very beneficial to a desktop system for home use
[10:38] <theadmin> I have a menu entry which is "stuck", that is, I can not modify it with menu editor. How to get rid of it?
[10:38] <ylmf> ?
[10:38] <rgnr> pfifo: yeah, I mant that ))
[10:38] <cch> 这里有中国人吗
[10:39] <ylmf> wo
[10:39] <theadmin> !cn|cch
[10:39] <rgnr> pfifo: is 10g gor / enough nowadays?
[10:39] <rgnr> !rgnr
[10:39] <cch> 就是想请教一个关于zip乱码的问题
[10:39] <pfifo> rgnr i average about 4gb, i usually go 6
[10:40] <ylmf> 全是外文
[10:40] <theadmin> !botabuse|rgnr
	Sorry, I don't know anything about rgnr
[10:40] <rgnr> (( lol
[10:40] <pfifo> keep it that way ubottu
[10:40] <pfifo> !botsnack
[10:41] <cch> 看样不行，还是先退出吧
[10:41] <rgnr> pfifo:  and which fs do u recommend? ext3, ext4 or reiserfs?
[10:41] <theadmin> rgnr: ext3 and ext4 are both good. ext3 is somewhat more stable, maybe
[10:41] <pfifo> rgnr, ask someone else, i use ext2
[10:41] <theadmin> rgnr: reiserfs? I doubt you can use that for /
[10:41] <pfifo> theadmin, you can
[10:42] <rgnr> theadmin: why
[10:42] <rgnr> pfifo:  why do u use ext2?
[10:42] <theadmin> rgnr: ext2 is good for USB devices
[10:43] <theadmin> Okay so what to do with uneditable menu entries :(
[10:43] <Doyle> Q: Just installed ubuntu 10, but the mouse doesn't function properly. Any suggestions?
[10:43] <pfifo> rgnr, ext3 is bloated and since i KNOW where files are i dont need to search. also ext2 works best in windows. reiserfs is buggy but its been a long time since i tried it, might have improved
[10:44] <pfifo> Doyle, what is wrong with it
[10:44] <theadmin> Atlantic666: From angel to devil eh?
[10:44] <Atlantic666> :)
[10:45] <R0uta> paskaa
[10:45] <viltsu-xD> mooooiiii<3333333
[10:45] <R0uta> #join quakenet
[10:45] <Atlantic666> theadmin, for testing purposes only. :P
[10:45] <theadmin> Atlantic666: oh... lol
[10:45] <Doyle> pfifo: the mouse was functioning initially, but moments after loggin in the buttons stop working, it still moves though
[10:45] <R0uta> this is so shit
[10:45] <datune> Hi, on a fresh Ubuntu 10.4 install, using  Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu), apache behaves really weird. It reports cpu usage of up to 100% and takes ages to respond to a http request, even for the most basic pages it takes a couple seconds. I don't know how to debug this, does anybody have an idea? (I checked the apache logs, no problems there)
[10:45] <theadmin> R0uta: Watch the language
[10:45] <R0uta> ubuntu fuck you!
[10:45] <pfifo> Doyle, what kind of mouse is it?
[10:46] <pfifo> !language | R0uta
[10:46] <Doyle> pfifo: I was trying to do an update, but it errored the "could not grab the mouse" message.  Same issue with 3 different mice
[10:46] <Doyle> pfifo: one wired known good tester, two wireless known good logitechs
[10:46] <rgnr> pfifo:  so u use ext2 for / only or for both?
[10:46] <pfifo> Doyle, have you tried a reboot?
[10:47] <pfifo> rgnr, like i said ask someone else, im suprised noones arguing with me for using ext2.
[10:47] <Doyle> pfifo: I rebooted, but the issue re-occured. I'll reboot again and try to notice if it happens at any particular time. brb
[10:47] <theadmin> pfifo: Your choice purely
[10:48] <pfifo> Doyle, dose this happen after login or before login?
[10:48] <rgnr> pfifo:  I guess I'd better try )
[10:49] <joljam> pfifo I installed LInux in addition to my existing Windows installation I am not getting "Grub Loading, please wait ... Error 17
[10:49] <R0uta> -.-'
[10:50] <blinkyb> i got a serious Empathy bug here. No contacts are displayed!!!
[10:50] <theadmin> blinkyb: Maybe they're all offline?
[10:51] <pfifo> joljam, it appears that you installed grubs files in the wrong place. You definatly have grub in you MBR however. Review the link form earlier and try once more, take special care to ensure that you have your linux partition mounted somewhere and that you passing the /boot directory to the grub-install script
[10:51] <blinkyb> theadmin: i am connecting to 2 different accounts and got "Show Offline Contacts" checked. One more thing, when I got to chat logs they are not there!!
[10:53] <theadmin> blinkyb: Weird
[10:53] <blinkyb> theadmin: i just installed Pidgin and it seems to be working fine. Surely it is a bug from Empathy
[10:53] <blinkyb> theadmin: Is there a way to update Empathy through terminal?
[10:53] <theadmin> blinkyb: Run "ubuntu-bug empathy" and report
[10:54] <theadmin> blinkyb: and sure, uh, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:54] <Abenhya> has anyone here ran into issues with 7z in ubuntu?
[10:55] <yo_rmn> hello, since I activated RGB transparences, i've got no window borders, I've checked everrithing else (wb plugin, emerald,) but I still think it has s to do with rgb
[10:55] <baltazar> One of my soundcards has disappeared from gnome-volume-control. Its working because I can play sound through it with mplayer and alsa driver. How do I get it back?
[10:55] <theadmin> Abenhya: I have sometimes - it keeps telling me that archive is damaged altough works fine thru terminal
[10:56] <cookiehero> hi
[10:56] <Abenhya> theadmin, i mean when I try to compress something it tells me operation not permitted, but only on certain files
[10:57] <gaetano> ciao a tutti
[10:58] <zeroone1> Hello can anyone help me? http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/terratec-cinergy-s-usb-unter-ubuntu-10-04/
[10:58] <rgnr> pfifo: thanks for help )
[10:59] <yudie> Salam
[10:59] <Doyle> pfifo: ok, happened again. Works fine for a bit, but once I open an application or a dialogue box the mouse stops responding to left/right clicks and I have to use the keyboard to navigate or Alt-F4 whatever window I'm in
[11:00] <Doyle> pfifo: it gets worse each time it messes up, after two or three times the mouse won't click on anything
[11:01] <yudie> Trouble brarti
[11:01] <Abenhya> i think I am going to just use xz instead of 7z
[11:01] <Doyle> the close/min/max buttons don't recognize when the mouse is hovering over them.
[11:01] <pfifo> Doyle, goto a terminal and run 'xev'
[11:01] <yudie> ??????
[11:02] <Doyle> unable to open display ''
[11:03] <Doyle> pfifo:
[11:03] <pfifo> wait, are you using gnome?
[11:03] <Doyle> pfifo: yes
[11:03] <Doyle> pfifo: just the default ubuntu 10 install, haven't even installed updates yet
[11:03] <pfifo> Doyle, then did you just try to run xev from a tty?
[11:03] <Doyle> pfifo: yes
[11:04] <pfifo> Doyle, no run 'xev' from gnome, use alt+f2 to open gnome-terminal
[11:04] <spasysheep> how long should badblocks -w take on a 320gb drive connected through firewire?
[11:04] <Doyle> pfifo: whats the key combo... just what I needed. brbr
[11:05] <Doyle> pfifo: ok, event test came up
[11:05] <jel> spasysheep, I don't know exactly, but badblocks takes quite a while
[11:05] <pfifo> Doyle, when you click on the box dose it show mose events in the terminal?
[11:05] <spasysheep> jel: it's been over a day so far...
[11:05] <jel> spasysheep :)
[11:06] <spasysheep> jel: if I don't have a working drive at the end of it...
[11:06] <Doyle> pfifo: no, but just for a moment the mouse worked and it did, but then it stopped working again...
[11:06] <jel> spasysheep.  Check syslog for errors.  About from that, I'd assume it's just slow.  You could create a small partition and run on that for a speed test, then extrapolate for the full time
[11:06] <jel> *apart
[11:06] <pfifo> jel, you run badblocks from inside mke2fs by specifying the -c option, badblocks by itself dosent do much to help you
[11:06] <thune3> spasysheep: i can't remember, it doesn't show progress? you can increase blocksize to get much better performance. I would have guessed a day withdefaults.
[11:07] <pfifo> Doyle, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server'
[11:07] <spasysheep> thune3: no progress indicator, and I just used defaults
[11:07] <thune3> spasysheep: you used -w, and understand that it is a write-read test that is destructive to data?
[11:07] <jel> pfifo, it's been a while, but I think I was just running it for an integrity test at the time
[11:07] <spasysheep> thune3: yup, the disk had alreay been zeroed out with dd
[11:08] <GHH> How to connect cups server.please
[11:08] <thune3> spasysheep: you are sure you have block error? maybe checked with smartctl or had i/o error?
[11:08] <brihaspati> hi
[11:09] <brihaspati> yupp
[11:09] <GHH> Please help me?
[11:09] <Doyle> pfifo: xorg-server is not installed
[11:10] <thune3> spasysheep: or is this a checkout test?
[11:11] <spasysheep> thune3 I have no idea what the problem with it is, I just know that something in it has gone wrong. It's not smart enabled because it's a USB / Firewire drive, but sometimes when reading / writing it gets an I/O error, makes a click noise and disconnects. This is just me testing to try and find out why it's dead
[11:11] <joljam> pfifo I am not able to do the dual boot
[11:12] <jel> GHH, http://localhost:631
[11:12] <joljam> pfifo I followed the links that u sent
[11:12] <Doyle> joljam: can you use a live cd?
[11:12] <zeroone1> Does anyone know the TV-Box "Cinergy S USB" from Terratec an runs it under ubuntu?
[11:12] <GHH> show error
[11:12] <jel> GHH, if that doesn't work, sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[11:12] <joljam> I am using a live CD
[11:13] <ServerTech> I need immediate help, why does the networking icon on the top bar show "Networking Disables"?? How can i enable it :\
[11:13] <Doyle> joljam: what are you trying to do?
[11:13] <ServerTech> *diabled
[11:13] <Doyle> ServerTech: left click then right click, there will be an option to enable it
[11:13] <ServerTech> one sec
[11:14] <Abenhya> wait cups is apple?
[11:14] <Doyle> ServerTech: Sorry I can't get more specific atm, my install is being funky
[11:14] <jel> ServerTech, that networking icon (part of network manager) is a bit crap.  Better just configuring your network in /etc/network/interfaces, for server stuff.
[11:14] <ServerTech> ok thank you
[11:14] <Doyle> ServerTech: anytime
[11:14] <pfifo> Doyle, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg' then do a reboot if it takes
[11:14] <jel> Abenhya, no, apple started using it too, like they use a lot of other open source stuff
[11:14] <Doyle> Abenhya: cups is old school. csomething unix print server
[11:14] <joljam> Doyle: I installed ubuntu on top of Windows XP and now the boot loader is messed up I cannot boot
[11:15] <jel> Doyle, no, cups is new school, lpr is old school :)
[11:15] <Abenhya> jel, Doyle, on the bottom of that webpage it says that it is trademarked by apple
[11:15] <GHH> jel,show it Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited with status 1!
[11:15] <GHH>  failed!
[11:15] <jel> Abenhya, ahh, they might have bought the company that made cups
[11:15] <jb12> hey all
[11:15] <spasysheep> Doyle: Common
[11:15] <pfifo> joljam, at this point its getting to where it would have been quicker to just reinstall, i sugges that route
[11:15] <Doyle> joljam: ah, there are lots of sites that give details on how to fix that issue. You need grub or some other boot loader, then you can try the two or three standard disk configurations until you get one that works
[11:16] <jb12> anyone having problems burning the iso.....10.4 lts
[11:16] <jel> jb12, nope
[11:16] <Doyle> joljam: reinstall would be quicker   :P
[11:16] <Doyle> spasysheep: thank you!
[11:16] <GHH> hello,jel
[11:16] <jb12> yah wasted 5 disks.....trying to install 10.04 lts
[11:16] <pfifo> jb12, even my cat is having problems with 10.04
[11:17] <Doyle> jb12: my mouse is giving me hassel
[11:17] <jel> GHH, try apt-get install --reinstall cups
[11:17] <joljam> pfifo do you suggest the windows partial resinstall method, then ubuntu install and then windows installation finalise .. method
[11:17] <jel> GHH (with sudo)
[11:17] <jb12> have no problems with 9.10 karmic koala
[11:17] <jel> jb12, re-download?
[11:17] <pfifo> joljam, no i suggest full xp install and then full ubuntu install, but since you already have windows installed you can just skip straight to ubuntu install
[11:17] <Morpheus-3000> I'm Slim Shady. Yes, I'm the real Shady. All you other Slim Shadys are just imitating. So won't the real Slim Shady please stand up? Please stand up. Please stand up.
[11:18] <jb12> but as soon as i go to 10.04 lt ....it plays up
[11:18] <pfifo> !ot | Morpheus-3000
[11:18] <Doyle> pfifo: seems like it took. Will reboot. brb
[11:18] <jb12> jel, re download
[11:19] <Morpheus-3000> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:19] <Morpheus-3000> Oops.
[11:19] <Morpheus-3000> What is "ubuntu" supposed to mean?
[11:20] <kps1> hi! i can't get my static ip to work. i've setup the address, netmask, gateway and dns servers under network connections, but when i check my external ip (whatsmyip.org) it's not the same i setup. it's as if it's still using DHCP, even though i've explicitely set it to manual
[11:20] <pfifo> Morpheus-3000, its north korean for hemorrhoid
[11:20] <jb12> so is anyone having problems with installing 10.04 lts
[11:20] <kps1> morpheus: "be nice to other people", kind of
[11:21] <red> Why doesn't Ubuntu remember the location of windows I have closed and re-open -- for example when I open nautilus it's the right size (the one i left it at) -- but position is not where I left it.
[11:21] <red> This is something that bugs me a lot and I never had problems with in Windows
[11:21] <kps1> morpheus: it's an african saying/principle
[11:21] <pfifo> red, logout saving you session once you have them in place
[11:22] <red> pfifo: so open the apps I want position saved - then log out when they are open?
[11:22] <jel> red: windows is not the same thing.  Nautilus has a spatial mode though, that will do it better than windows does, if you really want to.  Most people don't like it.
[11:22] <pfifo> red, yeah
[11:22] <GHH> How connect printer in linux
[11:22] <lidbjork> Seems like my PS/2 mouse has suddenly stopped working. Anybody knows how I can fix that? (It used to work all the time, through the PS/2 mouse/keyboard jack.) I'm using ubuntu 10.04.1.
[11:22] <Doyle> pfifo: back, issue still ocurring. Seems to happen as soon as I launch a nautilius window
[11:22] <red> jel: it's not the same thing ofcourse, but thats basic functionality that is missing :P
[11:22] <jel> GHH, plug it in
[11:22] <red> pfifo: i'll try
[11:23] <jel> red: no, it's a matter of opinion about what is best.
[11:23] <red> wrong
[11:23] <GHH> then
[11:23] <jel> red: set nautilus to spatial mode, or use a window manager that remembers positions, if you prefer.  Your choice
[11:23] <red> it should be at least a choice
[11:23] <pfifo> Doyle, since its not X11 then is gnome and thats where my support runs out, you can try asking here again or possibly head over to #gnome
[11:23] <Doyle> pfifo: and when I kill the nautilus window the issue went away... will try opening other types of windows
[11:23] <Doyle> pfifo: gnoooooooooo
[11:23] <GHH> jel ,then
[11:23] <red> It's very irritating for I use 3 monitors, and have carefully set up where what window is, and have a lot of stuff open at the same time
[11:24] <red> having to re-arrange everything each time I log in/re-open an app is a pain
[11:24] <Doyle> pfifo: thanks for your help, hoepfully someone will know. What do you use?
[11:24] <GHH> It plugin but not work,jel
[11:25] <GHH> Please help me,jel
[11:25] <sipior> red: compiz can do what you want. might be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003338
[11:25] <pfifo> Doyle, gnome, but ive never built gnome from scratch and used fluxbox on gentoo so i dont know much about gnome
[11:25] <dmN`> Hi, I have problem with my touhpad, after updating bios to A12 on my dell studio 1555. Touhpad goes crazy
[11:26] <red> sipior: thanks, will see if I can fix a few windows with tap
[11:26] <jel> GHH: look at dmesg and /var/log/messages to see if there are messages about your printer.  You probably need to install drivers.  You might need to find out what language your printer uses (like postscript or PCL), and install a generic driver for that language.
[11:26] <Doyle> pfifo: ok thanks. I'll check in #gnome. Might give up and use xfce or that other popular one... haven't slept so I can't think of the name
[11:26] <red> pfifo: thanks, that logout trick worked for nautilus and browser :)
[11:26] <red> geany worked already, now just need to see if I can get terminator to open with certain dimensions in correct place too
[11:26] <pfifo> np
[11:27] <jb12> when ubuntu replacing windows?
[11:27] <bazhang> jb12, what?
[11:27] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: if you are  using it, its already replacing it for you
[11:27] <red> it doesn't need to replace windows :)
[11:27] <hrw> hi
[11:27] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: but its not a religion, only a OS
[11:27] <hrw> how can I clean PPA's APT archive from packages?
[11:28] <X-2> PresuntoRJ: Bow for ubuntu. ;)
[11:28] <jb12> get rid of windows...ubuntu for me
[11:28] <bazhang> hrw, check out the ppa-purge
[11:28] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: use it when its the best solution for your problem, don't use it when its not
[11:28] <hrw> thx bazhang
[11:28] <lidbjork> Anyone knows where to configure the mouse hardware (ubuntu 10.04.1) ?
[11:28] <hrw> bazhang: I do not want to remove PPA's packages from my system.
[11:29] <dmN`> Hi, I have problem with my touhpad, after updating bios to A12 on my dell studio 1555. Touhpad goes crazy
[11:29] <hrw> bazhang: I want to remove packages from APT archive of my PPA
[11:29]  * Doyle 's ears perk at mention of mouse issue...
[11:29] <yusef> hi
[11:29] <bazhang> hrw, then clean the apt archive ?
[11:30] <jb12> anyone using 64bit ubuntu 10.04 and are they having problems with it
[11:30] <lidbjork> Doyle: Is it usually a pain in the ass when the mouse ain't cooperating?
[11:30] <bazhang> jb12, what's the issue, please provide details
[11:30] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: I had a few problems with 64bit... mostly when there was no compiled version of a package or a library
[11:30] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: rare, but can get frustrating
[11:31] <jb12> yah wasted 5 disks just to load it..it wont load the the screens goes blank after a while
[11:31] <jel> lidbjork, what mouse hardware?  Mostly you just plug in USB and it works.  If you need to configure extra buttons etc., /etc/X11/xorg.conf   Also, read man xorg.conf and man evdev
[11:31] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: sometimes it works to use the 32bit version, sometimes not
[11:31] <bazhang> jb12, sounds like corrupt iso or bad burn.
[11:31] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: since it could live without, I went back to 32 bits for now
[11:31] <jb12> 5 disks? at diffrent speeds
[11:31] <bazhang> md5 the iso burn slowly then do the disk integrity check jb12
[11:31] <bazhang> !md5 | jb12
[11:32] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: are you sure your system is 64bit compatible ?
[11:32] <jel> GHH: the simplest thing would be to google your make/model of printer and "ubuntu".  Give me the make/model quickly and I'll try to help before I leave
[11:32] <PresuntoRJ> !64bit
[11:32] <jb12> yes running 64 bit windows ultimate as well
[11:32] <red> sipior: meh, doesn't seem to have any effect
[11:32] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org GHH check there first
[11:32] <PresuntoRJ> jb12: odd
[11:32] <red> could be great if did work
[11:32] <lidbjork> jel: Well, I've been using this PS/2 mouse all the time, and suddenly it doesn't move anymore. It worked 10 hours ago. At the moment I'm using a small usb mouse with a too short cable...
[11:32] <jb12> had to go back to karmic koala 64bit..and it works
[11:33] <jb12> 10.04 giving me grief..
[11:33] <GHH> jel,canon PIXMA 2772
[11:33] <jb12> might try 32 bit...see what happens
[11:33] <bazhang> jb12, then follow the steps I outlined
[11:33] <jel> jb12, 64bit works fine.  Better than windows 64 bit.  The only problem is some binaries are written for 32-bit, and so you might need some lib32* packages installed too
[11:33] <yusef_> hi
[11:33] <lidbjork> jel: I've been switching between the two mice without problems up until now.
[11:34] <yusef_> i have an eror when i stat chronium browser
[11:34] <jb12> jel, ill try 32 see what happens.
[11:34] <GHH> jel,canon PIXMA iP2772
[11:34] <trijntje> !error
[11:35] <bazhang> GHH, linuxprinting.org check their database first
[11:36] <Doyle>  lidbjork well, my mouse isn't working well atm. Functions properly in login screen, and for a few minutes after logging in, until I start opening apps/windows then the mouse buttons stop working.
[11:36] <lidbjork> Doyle: Strange.
[11:36] <akkernight> I had to reinstall grub2 after installing Win7, and used the ubuntu community documentation. Now when I boot the computer, the grub terminal just shows up. help please
[11:36] <GHH> jel,any problem with my printer.
[11:36] <PresuntoRJ> !hw
[11:37] <bazhang> GHH, did you check the link I gave you?
[11:37] <bazhang> PresuntoRJ, /msg ubottu please
[11:37] <jel> GHH, Read/try this, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/PIXMA  though it's for different models.  Or, try setting it up as a standard postscript level 2 usb printer.  See the cups docs for that
[11:37] <lidbjork> When I type "su" to login as superuser -- isn't that password supposed to be the same as when you for example install new programs with Ubuntu Software Center?
[11:37] <jel> Gotta go.  Bye all :)
[11:37] <bazhang> lidbjork, no. use sudo not su
[11:37] <lidbjork> Bye, jel!
[11:37] <yusef_> http://alfaris.net/up/61/alfaris_net_1283510230.png
[11:37] <yusef_> that the eror
[11:37] <yusef_> i have
[11:38] <PresuntoRJ> lidbjork: try sudo su -
[11:38] <lidbjork> bazhang: What's the diff between su and sudo? I thought it was the same root user?
[11:38] <jel> lidbjork, no, sudo asks for YOUR password, and figures out what you're allowed to do once you're identified.  su just lets you become root, if you know the root password.
[11:38] <PresuntoRJ> lidbjork: then you use your own password[
[11:38] <bazhang> yusef_, that's fedora
[11:38] <PresuntoRJ> su wont work in ubuntu because root is locked out
[11:38] <bazhang> PresuntoRJ, please dont recommend that here
[11:38] <Abenhya> sudo su lets it work
[11:38] <bazhang> lidbjork, sudo -i for a root shell
[11:39] <jel> lidbjork, for example, with sudo, an admin can allow a user to run ONE powerful command, but nothing else
[11:39] <etheretic> 'lo :-)
[11:39] <PresuntoRJ> lidbjork: su run root (disabled in ubuntu), sudo runs like root, but actually, its you
[11:39] <blorg> hey, im actually trying to get another japanese font, can someone tell me how to change them? (combined not systemwide)
[11:39] <bazhang> yusef_, #fedora not here
[11:39] <lidbjork> PresuntoRJ, jel, bazhang: Ok, I got it.
[11:39] <PresuntoRJ> lidbjork: so, sudo su - can let you run su like root to become root without a root password
[11:39] <PresuntoRJ> only the ones in the admin group can sudo
[11:40] <bazhang> PresuntoRJ, sudo -i is the recommended method
[11:40] <PresuntoRJ> there is no need to give root password away, just put someone in the admin group or not
[11:40] <yusef_> what i do to solve it
[11:40] <bazhang> yusef_, wrong channel, that's fedora
[11:40] <meatbun> i find recent versions of firefox slow. always gray out. and will not let me do anything
[11:40] <bazhang> yusef_, /join #fedora
[11:40] <PresuntoRJ> bazhang: not the same effect
[11:40] <meatbun> how to fix it?
[11:41] <bazhang> PresuntoRJ, I've asked you already not to recommend that.
[11:41] <PresuntoRJ> bazhang: there are env variables that only change with su -
[11:42] <bazhang> meatbun, try launching in safe mode? then disabling the plugins you have
[11:42] <lidbjork> Ok ... another question ... where the hell is my xorg.conf? It ain't in /etc/X11
[11:43] <red> has it been generated yet lidbjork
[11:43] <blorg> noone,please?`
[11:43] <bazhang> lidbjork, not one there by default
[11:43] <red> bazhang: atleast on my desk pc with nvidia it's there
[11:43] <red> but not until I first run nvidia-settings and save thought
[11:43] <bazhang> red, yep after you ran that
[11:43] <lidbjork> red, bazhang: Ok.
[11:43] <yusef_> is there any solution
[11:43] <yusef_> please help me
[11:43] <meatbun> bazhang, i am gonna switch to safari cause IE sucks
[11:44]  * lidbjork still don't know what the f**k happened to his PS/2 mouse. What a piece of sh*t.
[11:44] <meatbun> and chrome wants to steal ur data. bazhang
[11:44] <red> firefox for life
[11:44] <red> until chrome is stable and has full firebug ;)
[11:44] <lidbjork> I think I gotta cold reboot this darned box. Thanks all for the help!
[11:44] <DoubleString> hey all
[11:44] <bazhang> yusef_, this is not ubuntu issue, so stop asking
[11:45] <thune3> lidbjork: you can add just the section you want over-ridden (from the autoconfigure) in the xorg.conf and ignore the rest. You don't need a full xorg.conf
[11:45] <bazhang> yusef_, I told you its fedora, so /join #fedora
[11:45] <lidbjork> thune3: Ok. But I have no idea what to write in it. I just thought I might find some help looking at the configuration.
[11:46] <lidbjork> Gosh, so finally I ran into a problem that's harder to fix on ubuntu than Slackware.
[11:46] <zzz_> Hello, is there a problem regarding the udev packages on Lucid? The upgrade hangs on the "Setting up udev..." part and never completes.
[11:47] <lidbjork> Over and out.
[11:49] <jb12> jel md5 hash checks out.....b4faa186c2419dc26e522e5f82e268a1
[11:49] <Abenhya> heh, you said hash
[11:50] <bazhang> Abenhya, ?
[11:50] <switchgirl> i am getting 96% packet loss :/ help
[11:50] <jb12> and still it wont install..
[11:50] <bastidrazor> switchgirl: isp issues?
[11:51] <popey> switchgirl: mtr <somehost> will tell you where the packetloss is happening, e.g. mtr www.bbc.co.uk
[11:51] <switchgirl> no issues in my area apparently
[11:52] <bazhang> jb12, burned at low speed and did the disk integrity check?
[11:52] <jb12> yes tried it ..using 5 disks..none work at different speeds.
[11:53] <jb12> yes the disk integrity checked
[11:53] <bazhang> jb12, disk integrity check as well?
[11:53] <bazhang> jb12, then try the alternate iso
[11:53] <bazhang> !alternate | jb12
[11:53] <jb12> alternate iso..what u mean
[11:54] <lidbjork> Alright, so my PS/2 mouse is working again. x-)
[11:54] <bazhang> jb12, install only text based installer
[11:54] <bazhang> jb12, works when the live cd has issues in many cases
[11:55] <jb12> ok thx
[11:55] <Doyle> Whats the command to run the mouse config applet?
[11:55] <Doyle> Or even to just open the linux menu would be great
[11:55] <Doyle> no mouse, just keyboard commands
[11:56] <lidbjork> Doyle: Try Alt-F1.
[11:56] <popey> ALT+F2, right, right
[11:56] <popey> oh, F1, sorry :D
[11:56] <jb12> thxs bazhang  ill try that...hope it works..let u know
[11:56] <bazhang> jb12, welcome
[11:57] <pradeep> helo everyone
[11:57] <Oscarian> hi guys, any easy way of setting up a usenet /server/ in ubuntu?
[11:58] <Doyle> So close, the menues highlight but won't drop down
[11:59] <hfmp> hi
[12:00] <hfmp> can anyone help me with the video sharing with ubuntu server
[12:00] <PresuntoRJ> !hi | hfmp
[12:00] <PresuntoRJ> !ask hfmp
[12:00] <hfmp> need to share media files over internet
[12:01] <hfmp> about 3 gb
[12:01] <hfmp> or so
[12:01] <hfmp> is there any package that i need
[12:01] <hfmp> Preston any luck
[12:03] <Oscarian> hfmp: any reason you can't use a service like fileden?
[12:03] <AceKing> I have an epson workforce 610. When I first plugged it in everything worked fine. For about the last week I can't scan. I am running Lucid 32 bit. Any ideas how to get it working again?
[12:04] <AceKing> Also, I had the printer for about 7 months
[12:05] <logan_wolf> what software shall i use to make my writable cd bootable
[12:06] <iceroot> logan_wolf: boot what?
[12:06] <logan_wolf> iceroot, bootable cd
[12:06] <iceroot> logan_wolf: boot what? ubuntu?
[12:06] <logan_wolf> iceroot, so that I can install ubuntu on another system using cd
[12:07] <AceKing> logan_wolf, I never had a problem using Brasero
[12:07] <iceroot> logan_wolf: just burn the normal ubuntu-iso
[12:07] <hfmp> cant afford file den :( cant i make a share and ask my users to browse a ip?
[12:07] <Oscarian> logan_wolf: if you're already in ubuntu, the default burner offers the option of burning the file or the contents...you want the contents
[12:08] <logan_wolf> iceroot, AceKing I have to make my usb flash drives bootable in order to install ubuntu
[12:08] <AceKing> logan_wolf, use Unetbootin
[12:08] <SandGorgon> hi guys... i'm installing Linux on a dell laptop with 3 NTFS paritions already on it (Win7). I have 100GB of free space. Now in the ubuntu 10.04 installer, I know I have to create an extended partition, but all I can see is "primary" and "logical" ? how do I create an extended partition ?
[12:08] <logan_wolf> AceKing, unetbooting provides me just with the option to make usb flash drives bootable
[12:09] <PresuntoRJ> SandGorgon: I believe ubiquity (ubuntu installation) would handle it for you automaticaly
[12:10] <AceKing> logan_wolf, do you have the Ubuntu iso downloaded?
[12:10] <PresuntoRJ> SandGorgon: have you tried it already?
[12:10] <logan_wolf> AceKing, yeah I have it
[12:10] <iceroot> !usb | logan_wolf
[12:10] <zamba> how do i set up ssl certificates with utf8 encoding in?
[12:10] <incandenza> logan_wolf: all you have to do is burn the CD...  you don't have to do anything to 'make it bootable'
[12:10] <SandGorgon> PresuntoRJ, umm.. I dont want it to do that.. I want to choose the size of my /var partitions (large DB). but I cant figure out how to create extended partition
[12:11] <PresuntoRJ> !partition | SandGorgon
[12:11] <logan_wolf> incandenza, so would that boot my other box automatically with linux???
[12:11] <incandenza> logan_wolf: yes
[12:11] <logan_wolf> incandenza, hmm thats interesting
[12:11] <logan_wolf> incandenza, will try that
[12:11] <AceKing> logan_wolf, click on "disk image" and then over to the right you'll see a small box with 3 dots. Click on that and point it to where you have the file downloaded. Just make sure you have the right USB drive in and click OK
[12:11] <incandenza> logan_wolf: as long as you set it to boot from the CD drive instead of the hard drive, of course (look at the boot order in the BIOS)
[12:11] <Ooooups> hi
[12:12] <PresuntoRJ> SandGorgon: during the instalation there is an option to let it automatic, or to manually set it up yourself
[12:12] <SandGorgon> PresuntoRJ, thank you but I'm not exactly new to this ... well new to 10.04 maybe. I am just not able to figure out why I dont get the option to create extended partitions
[12:12] <PresuntoRJ> !hi | Ooooups
[12:12] <logan_wolf> incandenza, i'll do that
[12:12] <pfifo> hfmp, you could install samba which works with windows sharing, or setup a ftp server.
[12:12] <nakhlawi> SandGorgon: Maybe you already have an extended partition?
[12:13] <logan_wolf> AceKing, i already have iso downloaded
[12:13] <SandGorgon> nakhlawi, ahh figured it out... ubiquity bug. if I boot to the livecd and use gparted... it lets me create an extended partition
[12:13] <AceKing> logan_wolf, incandenza is right, you must change the boot order in your BIOS
[12:13] <logan_wolf> AceKing, hmm I'll do that
[12:14] <logan_wolf> thanks guys :)
[12:14] <AceKing> logan_wolf, YW
[12:14] <milena> heyy
[12:15] <hal> when I try to down my network interface eth0, and then bring it up again, it remains down
[12:15] <PresuntoRJ> SandGorgon: you should file a bug report then
[12:15] <hal> can anyone help me to bring it up please?
[12:15] <PresuntoRJ> !bug | SandGorgon
[12:15] <hal> I have tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:16] <SandGorgon> PresuntoRJ, yup.. already doing it
[12:16] <hal> I have also tried ifconfig eth0 up
[12:16] <PresuntoRJ> !ask hal
[12:16] <glebihan> @hal: what is the output of ifconfig eth0 ?
[12:16] <nakhlawi> hal: maybe it was not up in the first place.
[12:17] <SandGorgon> hal, how many interfaces do u have on ur computer ?
[12:17] <ennui> could someone suggest a light console application for picking colors?
[12:17] <hal> glebihan: if I give you that now, I will lose my connection and not be able to bring it up again to tell you :-/
[12:17] <hal> I'd have to reboot
[12:17] <hal> glebihan: but, when I ran it last time, the IP address was not showing
[12:18] <glebihan> @hal: this doesn't do anything, it just prints informations
[12:18] <hal> nakhlawi: yes, it was up, because I could access the network
[12:18] <hal> glebihan: ah, you mean now?  OK, one moment...
[12:19] <ServerTech> ??
[12:19] <PresuntoRJ> hal: could you try a $sudo service networking restart ?
[12:19] <SandGorgon> ennui, http://zetamac.com/picker/
[12:19] <hal> glebihan: http://hals-paste.pastebin.com/ZQWjUK00
[12:19] <hal> PresuntoRJ: I tried that first, and it was not recognised
[12:19] <hal> btw, I am using karmic
[12:20] <blorg> hey, could someone help me with fonts , is there a command to find out which fonts are active?
[12:20] <PresuntoRJ> hal: so, /etc/init.d/network restart ?
[12:20] <PresuntoRJ> hal: still nothing ?
[12:20] <hal> PresuntoRJ: it returns, restart: Unknown instance:
[12:20] <littlepenguin> blorg fonts are saved under /usr/share/fonts
[12:20] <PresuntoRJ> :-p
[12:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:21] <blorg> i know.. but how do i change them .. i mean i want another japanese font ... but just as input and output  not systemwide
[12:21] <hal> PresuntoRJ: it is very strange that service networking restart does not work...  the script seems to be coded to recognise that
[12:22] <littlepenguin> blorg you want to add some fonts=?
[12:22] <hal> PresuntoRJ: service network restart also does not work
[12:22] <PresuntoRJ> hal: indeed... I remember I  used it a lot on my test server
[12:22] <blorg> yes
[12:22] <blorg> to my system so it shows them in another way
[12:22] <blorg> but not systemwide
[12:23] <PresuntoRJ> hal: i don't have any karmic here to try it out... do you understand the init scripts ?
[12:23] <ennui> 
[12:23] <glebihan> @hal: when you reboot, it always works ?
[12:23] <littlepenguin> blorg what you mean shows them in another way?
[12:23] <hal> glebihan: yes - I have no problems normally
[12:24] <BluesKaj> hal try , sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:24] <hal> PresuntoRJ: not fully
[12:24] <hal> BluesKaj: please read up
[12:24] <PresuntoRJ> hal: when you remove the cable does it realize it? and when you put it back, does it reconnect?
[12:24] <hal> PresuntoRJ: yes
[12:24] <BluesKaj> hal, just got here , there's no text
[12:24] <PresuntoRJ> BluesKaj: he already did that... :-p that's waht's strange
[12:25] <hal> BluesKaj: when I down the interface and up it again, the ip config is missing and I lose network connectivity
[12:25] <Yahav> hey guys
[12:25] <blorg> littlepenguin, the standart japanese fonts look ugly ,i want to change them
[12:25] <Yahav> whats the diffrence bettwen Destop Verion and Laptop version?>
[12:25] <littlepenguin> blorg ahh ok
[12:26] <hal> BluesKaj: even when I use the init script as you suggest to restart the network, the network does not work
[12:26] <BluesKaj> PresuntoRJ, hal , yeah I had trouble as well, ..it had to do with my ip gateway address , route din't give the correct ip in my case
[12:26] <Oscarian> Yahav: i'm only guessing, but i'd suggest the laptop version has more 'sleep' mode stuff enabled, for energy conservation
[12:26] <blorg> littlepenguin, but i dont actually want them to be my systemfont ,, so just if they show up in the web or if i want to type them
[12:27] <littlepenguin> yes blorg you can choose in most application like browser what font you want
[12:27] <Yahav> Oscarian: sounds reasonable
[12:27] <PresuntoRJ> hal: are you using DHCP or STATIC IP ?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> hal, are you connecting with ethernet using /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:27] <hal> PresuntoRJ: static
[12:28] <littlepenguin> blorg Gnu Font Editor http://www.gnu.org/software/gfe/#download
[12:28] <hal> BluesKaj: I have just used the gnome gui applet to configure the network
[12:28] <PresuntoRJ> Yahav: what laptop verson ? i know about desktop, server and netbook?
[12:28] <Yahav> ohh i ment netbook
[12:28] <Yahav> anyway does the 10.10 beta stable enough for daily use?
[12:28] <Kwpolska> Yahav: It could be.
[12:29] <bazhang> Yahav, #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 discussion
[12:29] <glebihan> @hal: how about sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart ?
[12:29] <Oscarian> Yahav: again, i'd suggest that unless you have a specific need for 10.10, just go with 10.04
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hal, I did this tutorial for static IP , but without NM , just used /etc/network/interfaces ...check it out , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[12:29] <Kwpolska> glebihan: just a notice, please don't use @ before people nicks, it might be though as chan operator
[12:30] <PresuntoRJ> Yahav: both desktop and netbook have GUI and basically the same applications, but the netbook has a "remix" of the menus and displays to fit to the tiny screens... I use desktop on most notebook and even a few netbooks... you should try it to check if its the best solution for you or not
[12:30] <Kwpolska> BluesKaj: Use networkmanager. You will do better.
[12:30] <glebihan> hal: ok
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Kwpolska, I'm not the one with the prob
[12:31] <Kwpolska> BluesKaj: I know. But networkmanager is better
[12:31] <Yahav> kk thanks, ive been used to OpenSuse on my PC, now i want to move my work laptop to nx too,,think ubuntu would be better solution then debian?
[12:31] <bazhang> Yahav, try it and see
[12:31] <littlepenguin> blorg in repo is fontforge it could also edit fonts
[12:31] <BluesKaj> NM is ok ,but I prefer /etc/network/interfaces , Kwpolska , it's faster
[12:31] <PresuntoRJ> !debian | Yahav
[12:31] <Kwpolska> BluesKaj: yeah, yeah
[12:32] <th0r> BluesKaj: have you considered wicd?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Kwpolska, to each his own , if it works for you
[12:32] <kimiskov> I got this in Synaptic:
[12:32] <kimiskov> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf)
[12:32] <kimiskov> E: Der skete en fejl under behandlingen af dcp375cwcupswrapper (NewFileDesc2)
[12:32] <kimiskov> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:32] <Kwpolska> Yahav: It depends. If you're more experienced, you shall use debian...
[12:32] <FloodBot3> kimiskov: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <kimiskov> E: Pakkelisten eller statusfilen kunne ikke åbnes eller forstås.
[12:32] <Yahav> PresuntoRJ: knew that, just was asking for the diffrance,
[12:32] <kimiskov> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:32] <PresuntoRJ> !unr | Yahav
[12:32] <Yahav> will try ubuntu
[12:32] <bazhang> Yahav, please dont poll here
[12:33] <glebihan> kimiskov: run "sudo apt-get clean"
[12:33] <Yahav> fair enough, sorry [=
[12:33] <hal> guys, I may have found it
[12:33]  * BluesKaj is not the one with networking probs, th0r ...must i repeat ?
[12:33] <Kwpolska> Yahav: the difference is, debian is for more professional users and ubuntu is for n00bs.
[12:33] <bazhang> !noob > Kwpolska
[12:33] <PresuntoRJ> Kwpolska: not really... I am pretty professional and use Ubuntu
[12:33] <Yahav> well then, i guess i'm the noobish got used to GUI's haha :P
[12:33] <th0r> never said he was
[12:33] <hal> glebihan: PresuntoRJ BluesKaj  /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[12:34] <bazhang> Kwpolska, stop that
[12:34] <glebihan> hal: this worked ?
[12:34] <kimiskov> glebihan: thanks I try and hope it will help?
[12:34] <Kwpolska> newbie. Happy?
[12:34] <hal> glebihan: possibly :)
[12:34] <psych0fren1a> can help me??
[12:34] <PresuntoRJ> Kwpolska: their goals differ a little... debian tends to be more stable cause it tends to use older, therefore more tested packages... ubuntu trys to give newer versions to the users... and still might not be considered bleeding edge by some of my friends
[12:34] <littlepenguin> psych0fren1a, just ask
[12:35] <psych0fren1a> how to setting connection wifi with terminal?
[12:35] <gina2356> hi ... new to linux, running Kubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx . Wondering if there is a way to make all of my windows transparent?
[12:35] <glebihan> kimiskov: it will clear your cache, so it should solve your problem
[12:35] <littlepenguin> psych0fren1a, configure the /etc/network/interface file
[12:36] <pradeep> i have one old system here a nec LL90/5 tryin to put ubuntu  but it does not recognise my graphics card
[12:36] <psych0fren1a> its not ethernet
[12:36] <psych0fren1a> but i want to connect wifi
[12:36] <psych0fren1a> what must i do?
[12:36] <PresuntoRJ> !compiz | gina2356
[12:36] <quidnunc> Is there any way to not mount a root partition without a boot disk? (I want to resize it)
[12:37] <glebihan> pradeep: have you tried System->Administration->Hardware drivers ?
[12:37] <gina2356> oh compiz, in KDE
[12:37] <AceKing> I have an epson workforce 610 for about 7 months. When I first plugged it in everything worked fine including the scanner. For about the last week I can't scan. I am running Lucid 32 bit. Any ideas how to get it working again?
[12:37] <littlepenguin> psych0fren1a, also wpa supplicant needs to be configured
[12:37] <pradeep> glebihan,  does not even boot into X
[12:38] <rhalff> hi I have the grub2 bootsplash working, but after that for a few seconds there is a _ in the upperleft corner, and I briefly get the ubuntu progress screen, how can I make it that in all 3 stages the image stays the same ? I'm especially curious what the stage is where '_' is in the upperleft corner.
[12:38] <psych0fren1a> if i scanning wifi with syntax iwlist scan
[12:38] <psych0fren1a> i get more channel
[12:39] <psych0fren1a> i want to connect one from it's
[12:39] <glebihan> pradeep: what error message do you get ?
[12:39] <littlepenguin> psych0fren1a, http://nixcraft.com/ubuntu-debian/13278-etc-network-interfaces-wireless-wifi-example.html
[12:39] <bubuzzz> how can i remove the applet with the root right
[12:39] <bubuzzz> i used the command sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[12:39] <psych0fren1a> littlepenguin:What there is no syntax for it
[12:39] <pradeep> glebihan, just a blank screen
[12:40] <PresuntoRJ> gina2356: $ sudo apt-get install compiz-kde
[12:40] <bubuzzz> and now the dbus applet is always on indication areas
[12:40] <psych0fren1a> littlepenguin:i try this,thanks so for help
[12:40] <mophead> Hi everyone, does anybody else have a problem with ubuntu suddenly freezing/hanging since today's updates?
[12:40] <littlepenguin> psych0fren1a, np
[12:40] <glebihan> pradeep: did you try to boot in recovery mode ?
[12:41] <littlepenguin> mophead, till now everything fine on my system
[12:41] <pradeep> glebihan, i have not installed at all
[12:41] <kimiskov> glebihan: Still having same problem after cache clearing, Anything else I can try?
[12:41] <PresuntoRJ> mophead: still fine with me, both laptop and desktop
[12:41] <mophead> I have no idea why it's freezing... how can I fix it?
[12:42] <pradeep> glebihan,  running from a live cd  i want to install it on an old laptop
[12:42] <mophead> It's freezing about 5 times/hr.
[12:42] <littlepenguin> mophead have you checked logs if something is in there?
[12:42] <PresuntoRJ> !dmesg | mophead
[12:42] <AceKing> Ok, I found a scanner driver for my Epson Workforce 610, but when I go to install it I get this, Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: iscan (>= 2.21.0)
[12:43] <glebihan> kimiskov: when does the error happen ?
[12:43] <mophead> I checked /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state and there is no error
[12:43] <kimiskov> G
[12:43] <DarsVaeda> hi, how can i run commands on a remote host i have access to, like mv or some
[12:43] <glebihan> pradeep: I think you can run in safe mode even with the live cd
[12:43] <kimiskov> glebihan: right after opening synaptic
[12:43] <DarsVaeda> i want to do it with a script on my machine
[12:43] <PresuntoRJ> DarsVaeda: via ssh ?
[12:44] <nakhlawi> DarsVaeda: OpenSSH
[12:44] <glebihan> pradeep: you have to edit boot options
[12:44] <DarsVaeda> does this work with a bash script?
[12:44] <littlepenguin> mophead logs are accessible through gnome-system-log
[12:44] <PresuntoRJ> DarsVaeda: you need to have network access to it, ssh must be installed there, with the tcp port 22 (default) opened, and a local account to login there
[12:45] <DarsVaeda> thats not my question, sorry ^^
[12:45] <PresuntoRJ> !ssh | DarsVaeda
[12:45] <glebihan> kimiskov: could you paste the log there http://ubuntu.pastebin.com so I can keep a look on it ?
[12:45] <pradeep> it is ubuntu ultimate version
[12:45] <PresuntoRJ> DarsVaeda: so what do you mean? what do you need?
[12:45] <joljam> pfifo. I installed the windows cd first then when it was restarting took the windows CD out and installed ubuntu then later aftere ubuntu installation I reinserted the windows CD to continue installation. However, now the coomputer only boots Windows
[12:45] <bazhang> pradeep, not supported here
[12:45] <bazhang> !ultimate | pradeep
[12:45] <DarsVaeda> i need a bash script that will rm a symlink and set another one on the remote host
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I fount the Ultimate edition rather.. un-ultimate :)
[12:46] <PresuntoRJ> DarsVaeda: of course it works over bash script... but first you need to create a key pair and put your public as authorized on the remote host
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> DarsVaeda:  You coul dmake a script ON the host that could do the changes and run that script via ssh. that would be easier.
[12:46] <dt`> hi, what's the best tool/method for recording long webcam videos? (5+ hours)
[12:46] <Yahav> why does the download @ ubuntu says: "64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[12:46] <Yahav> ?
[12:46] <mophead_> My machine just froze again... log says it's fine
[12:47] <frenzy> I know this look quite strange but anytime i power on my zotac with ubuntu it panics at the first boot (saying that root disk is not accessible) and then after an hard reset boot correctly (with same kernel, same options)... this didn't change upgrading from karmic to lucid
[12:47] <bazhang> Yahav, poorly worded, some issues with flash
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Yahav:  for 'idiot proofing' - if someone has NO idea what 32/64bit means.. they they should proberly get the 32bit.
[12:47] <littlepenguin> dt is it for surveillance?i would recommend zoneminder
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Yahav:  use what you like.
[12:47] <PresuntoRJ> DarsVaeda: first, create a key pair for you with ssh-keygen
[12:47] <dt`> littlepenguin, i'll check it out
[12:47] <kimiskov> glebihan: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/CCsqF7sZ
[12:47] <Yahav> btw i'm really sorry about the stupid questions but i'm really dont know ubuntu very well
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Yahav:  do you have a 64bit cpu? do you have 4+GB of ram?
[12:48] <nenubat> ola kétal
[12:48] <PresuntoRJ> then copy to the remote server (if it already have the openssh-server installed
[12:48] <bazhang> Yahav, you might wish to check the manual, its very informative
[12:48] <Yahav> Dr_Willis: i have 64bit cpu why?
[12:48] <mophead_> I've run dmesg but I don't understand what info I"m supposed to get from it
[12:48] <bazhang> !manual | Yahav
[12:48] <Yahav> i mean., i know why
[12:48] <Yahav> baaaaa
[12:48] <pradeep> bazhang, that is because internet is very expensive in this part of the world
[12:48] <Yahav> bloody english..lol..sorry
[12:48] <PresuntoRJ> DarsVaeda: copy it there with ssh-copy-id
[12:48] <DarsVaeda> Dr_Willis: thx, that really is easier
[12:49] <bazhang> pradeep, that has nothing to do with it. Ultimate is not supported, so please don't ask for support again
[12:49] <DarsVaeda> PresuntoRJ: yeah thx, but never mind i have access already ;)
[12:49] <PresuntoRJ> DarsVaeda: okido
[12:50] <glebihan> kimiskov: could you also paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[12:50] <pradeep> bazhang,  dont sound that i use that cos it comes together with all it codec and all besides i have give support one or to many times in this irc channel before
[12:51] <madlatvian> hello ppl
[12:52] <Aijse> I m planning on buying a new LCD monitor but have a relative old radeon 9550card. Any one can tell me what resolutions they can use on their monitor who has the same card?
[12:53] <kimiskov> glebihan: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/RrYvYVfk
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Aijse: check the cards specs.. but i imagine it can drive most any monitor res you can get these days
[12:53] <madlatvian> anyone got any comments on the best editors for C
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Aijse:  for games. it may be a bigger issue with ram limitions.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> !geany | madlatvian
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> madlatvian:  check out Geany
[12:54] <Aijse> Dr_Willis: thanks ... I had the idea though the drivers would be more a limitting factor than the hardware
[12:54] <quidnunc> madlatvian: That answer is emacs. But if you are asking then you don't want that answer
[12:54] <glebihan> kimiskov: wow, how did you manage to get such a huge sources.list file ??
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Aijse:  i cant recall the last time i had a res/monitor issue with any cards in the last 5+ years
[12:55] <Aijse> Dr_Willis: SO you'd think 1920x1200 is possible with my old card?
[12:55] <mophead> my computer won't stop freezing... it's freezing more and more often.  it only stays on for minutes, then it hangs with no mouse, no caps lock, etc.
[12:55] <mophead> I have to do a hard-restart each time
[12:56] <kimiskov> glebihan: I didn't. I get help for such things. Yesterday one guy advised me to run a command. Then he left. Since I got problems
[12:56] <aeon-ltd> Aijse: the problem is always the software, linux demonstrates that when you compared something like win7 which uses about 600mb+ ram from boot where linux (with full gui and compositing) could do almost the same but with less load on the cpu and roughly 200-250 ram used from boot
[12:56] <glebihan> kimiskov: ok, I'd suggest totally clearing that file
[12:56] <aeon-ltd> *compare it to (replace compared)
[12:57] <glebihan> kimiskov: then, go to System->Administration->Software sources
[12:57] <madlatvian> mmm I open tried eclipse just want to know opinions Im a a fucking loser when it comes to programming
[12:57] <glebihan> kimiskov: and enable the items you want
[12:57] <bazhang> madlatvian, watch the language
[12:57] <mophead> does anyone have an idea of what I can do to make it stop crashing?  I think it's X that crashes but I"m not sure
[12:57] <dt`> how long of a video do you think "Cheese" could handle ?
[12:58] <dt`> would it crash if I were to record a 10 hour long video ? :P
[12:58] <voob_of_doom> anybody has tramp sudo working properly in ubuntu?
[12:58] <madlatvian> sorry I apologise
[12:59] <jrib> voob_of_doom: "tramp sudo"?  What's your actual question?
[12:59] <blackdoggy> hi pees.....ubuntu nubee here
[12:59] <voob_of_doom> jrib: emacs tramp sudo method always hangs for me
[12:59] <Oer> mophead, clean the fan's inside your pc, or let a qualified  person do that. this can solve heat problems/ crash causes
[12:59] <blackdoggy> got lots of questions
[12:59] <mophead> It's not a heat problem: heat problems used to cause this machine to shut down entirely
[13:00] <mophead> it doesn't even feel hot
[13:01] <quibbler> !ask | blackdoggy
[13:02] <iluminator101> How do i create a laucher to access my private? Because currently I have to do cd $Home and ecryptfs-mount-private after i log in
[13:03] <blackdoggy> how can i make voice calls  with contacts in yahoo messenger? help please
[13:03] <richard_h> just installed lucid - seems livecd has very little software
[13:04] <richard_h> is there another cd that has more? like debian cd 1?
[13:04] <madlatvian> richard have a look at the programs in ubuntu software centre
[13:04] <glebihan> blackdoggy: you can use pidgin
[13:04] <richard_h> madlatvian: most of them won't install without internet?
[13:05] <madlatvian> non of them will install without internet
[13:05] <bazhang> richard_h, how are you on now
[13:05] <blackdoggy> glebihan will it support video calls?
[13:05] <glebihan> blackdoggy: yes
[13:05] <madlatvian> why don't you have internet you are on internet
[13:05] <blackdoggy> ohh thanx mate i will give it a go
[13:05] <nakhlawi> blackdoggy: also check empathy
[13:05] <glebihan> blackdoggy: though I haven't tried with yahoo
[13:05] <richard_h> bazhang: internet :-) but I want to demo tomorrow without
[13:05] <iluminator101> How do i create a laucher to access my private? Because currently I have to do cd $Home and ecryptfs-mount-private after i log in
[13:06] <bazhang> richard_h, so install between now and then?
[13:06] <blackdoggy> nakhlawi i have tried but its not workin
[13:06] <richard_h> I want to demo the install
[13:06] <madlatvian> what is everyone's perspective on music player JaJuk
[13:06] <nakhlawi> blackdoggy: I don't think yahoo voice is supported, only Google talk's voice
[13:06] <jrib> iluminator101: I think that hidden file that's in Private before you mount it tells you how, does it?
[13:06] <madlatvian> skype
[13:07] <Gaurav__> I figured out that, I have to install ssh-server for the ssh to work. Do i also need to install it on the computer I am trying to access through ssh?
[13:07] <iluminator101> jrib what you mean?'
[13:07] <blackdoggy> nakhlawi i think so....
[13:07] <madlatvian> you need to install ssh client
[13:08] <richard_h> bazhang: actually I want to watch my father install, and get all the software he's likely to want, but without using the internet
[13:08] <madlatvian> but most linux systems have installed
[13:08] <blackdoggy> another question how can i make VU meter working in lucid
[13:08] <bazhang> richard_h, then remaster an iso?
[13:08] <jrib> iluminator101: is your private directory mounted now?
[13:08] <bazhang> !remaster | richard_h
[13:08] <richard_h> I'm used to debian, which has everythiing I usually need on cd1
[13:08] <iluminator101> jrib yea
[13:08] <jrib> iluminator101: can you unmount it?
[13:09] <iluminator101> yea
[13:09] <richard_h> bazhang: that's much more effort than I was prepared for :-( is there no standard image for common software?
[13:09] <jrib> iluminator101: ok, and then what do you see inside it using a terminal?
[13:09] <Gaurav__> thanks madlatvian... can u give  me the apt-get to install ssh client
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> richard_h:  also check out 'reconstructor' a web based remastering tool/system -> https://reconstructor.apphosted.com/
[13:10] <bazhang> richard_h, not much of an effort, to be honest, quite straightforward
[13:11] <iluminator101> jrib inside what?
[13:11] <jrib> iluminator101: the private directory
[13:11] <madlatvian> apt-get install ssh-client
[13:11] <glebihan> richard_h: maybe you should try the dvd
[13:12] <Aijse> I keep getting errors in the bootable linux cd I try to burn. Whats the most reliable burning software in Ubuntu?
[13:12] <Aijse> Now using Gnomebaker
[13:12] <DarsVaeda> still up with the question, how to i make a bashscript remove a file on a remote host i have access to
[13:12] <madlatvian> gnomebaker
[13:12] <iluminator101> jrib can you paste what the instructions on yours, mine is messed up
[13:12] <nakhlawi> Aijse: Brasero
[13:13] <jrib> iluminator101: I don't have ecryptfs installed here
[13:13] <madlatvian> gnomebaker has better support for higher speeds
[13:13] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: what protocol do you want to use ?
[13:13] <DarsVaeda> what protocol?
[13:13] <JohnHeikkila> Hey I need help with language-pack-en dependency problems
[13:13] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: I mean, ssh, ftp, sftp ... ?
[13:14] <DarsVaeda> whatever works
[13:14] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: well, this depends on what's available on the remote host
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> DarsVaeda:  ssh has a feature to execute a command on a remote box. same as if it was done on a local box.
[13:15] <iluminator101> jrib is this right ln -s /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-/home/iluminator101/Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop
[13:15] <richard_h> bazhang, glebihan, others - thanks all, I think I'll have to rethink this - and try and have internet available.
[13:15] <DarsVaeda> somehow i'm doing it wrong then "ssh user@host:/path/to/script/runme.sh" ?
[13:16] <jrib> iluminator101: probably not.  Look slike you need a space
[13:16] <madlatvian> DarsVaeda: you need to use scp
[13:16] <DarsVaeda> isn't that for secure copying?
[13:17] <sipior> DarsVaeda: try "ssh user@host  /path/to/script/runme.sh"
[13:17] <madlatvian> ok
[13:17] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: try "echo /path/to/script/runme.sh | ssh user@host"
[13:19] <DarsVaeda> no such file or directory, but the path is correct
[13:19] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: I meant "cat /path/to/script/runme.sh | ssh user@host"
[13:19] <Noble> Does anyone know where I can get the new ambinance theme in a tar.gz, not a .deb?
[13:19] <sipior> DarsVaeda: the script resides on the remote machine, correct?
[13:19] <DarsVaeda> yes
[13:19] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: ah ok
[13:20] <voob_of_doom> does anybody have tramp working in ubuntu? (tags: emacs, tramp)
[13:20] <DarsVaeda> i could also have it on my machine if i knew how to run remote commands through a bashscript ^^
[13:20] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: if you have it on your local machine, try my last suggestion
[13:20] <jangell> anyone know why spamd would go insane and spam the mai.log with "Use of uninitialized value $fam_listen" about 20,000 times a second wiht the default configs?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[13:22] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: otherwise you could try "ssh user@host 'sh /path/to/script/runme.sh'"
[13:22] <madlatvian> any one here americans?
[13:22] <sipior> madlatvian: what difference does that make?
[13:22] <bazhang> !ot | madlatvian
[13:23] <madlatvian> no probs just wanted to ask a american orientated question
[13:24] <angkassa> qwldklqkdl
[13:24] <DarsVaeda> glebihan: that worked
[13:24] <angkassa> nganjuk
[13:24] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: which one ?
[13:24] <bazhang> angkassa, english please
[13:24] <DarsVaeda> with the brackets
[13:24] <glebihan> DarsVaeda: ok, nice
[13:24] <DarsVaeda> ssh user@host 'command'
[13:25] <madlatvian> has anyone got any experience with the De-ice iso
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> madlatvian:  never heard of it.
[13:25] <ariqs> grr, what packages do I need for java?
[13:25] <ariqs> jamvm?
[13:25] <bazhang> ariqs, enable the partner repo
[13:25] <madlatvian> ubuntu based security cds
[13:25] <bazhang> !partner | ariqs
[13:26] <madlatvian> for pen tests
[13:26] <erana> ariqs: for java : everything jdk ; runtime en interpreter tools
[13:27] <DarsVaeda> thanks
[13:27] <erana> ariqs : in shell: apt-cache search java
[13:28] <ariqs> erana, that gave me a huge mess of stuff
[13:28] <Guest34883> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! Guest34883 ariqs jenkinbr Afrix Kitar|st iroquois X-2 msiever cpf_ M3de flugsio _KAMI_ dmart [GuS] randyrkelly pradeep hfmp Prodego philinux ChaosR pmcgowan antonpiatek erana Noble ishan ank slashiter stanislaw internalkernel Xbert zzzed fserb ericm|ubuntu aniruddh schmidtm_ FullFlannelJacke Kirovski marcules Antonis Krystyano elprofundo bhah geenna bonaven
[13:29] <X-2> .
[13:29] <Afrix> oh noes
[13:29] <BluesKaj> wth was that ?
[13:29] <Prodego> standard spam that we can ignore because idoru stopped it
[13:29] <erana> ariqs : look at the package names
[13:29] <erana> you need jdk-base and jdk-runtime
[13:29] <bazhang> !java | ariqs
[13:30] <voob_of_doom> !emacs | ariqs
[13:30] <ariqs> I picked sun-java-core, whatever
[13:32] <tracy69> hi question if i upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 will i lose all my settings? in 10.04 i had to install manually different drivers to get my sound working the same graphic card and what about conky config etc will i need to reinstall everything ? is there any risk ?
[13:32] <Yahav> !code
[13:32] <Pici> tracy69: 10.10 questions belong in #ubuntu+1
[13:33] <tracy69> k
[13:33] <Priceyy> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! Priceyy strange Kody DavidLevin erUSUL shriekout lousygarua rfolco _HarLocK_ tracy69 tommy_ xJay Xintruder_ dirk__ ariqs jenkinbr Afrix Kitar|st iroquois X-2 msiever cpf_ M3de flugsio _KAMI_ dmart [GuS] randyrkelly pradeep hfmp Prodego philinux ChaosR pmcgowan antonpiatek erana Noble ishan ank slashiter stanislaw internalkernel Xbert zzzed fserb ericm|ubuntu aniruddh schmidtm_
 could you please speak english or arabic ?
[13:34] <ikonia> he's gone - lets move on
[13:34] <ikonia> tracy69: this channel is also English only.
[13:35] <ariqs> what is on this ubuntu cd anyway? It seems like it doesn't come with basic stuff, like java, but it's a full dvd...
[13:35] <rfolco> spammers don't speak english, in general :)
[13:35] <philinux> tracy69: 10.10 is still beta. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=385
[13:36] <Pici> : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Maverick/10.10 support/discussion.
[13:37] <philinux> Pici: it was a general suppport question re upgrading not really 10.10 at all
[13:38] <tracy69> philinux, yes i know but i think it would work already and ikonia !!! what language did Priceyy speak ??? i do speak english spanish german russian and arabic and i couldnt understand what he said
[13:39] <iroquois> hello everyone,is wubi installed kucid lynx just as secure from viruses etc. as a full install?
[13:39] <randyrkelly> mmm bots
[13:39] <glebihan> arics: the DVD release essentially contains more languages support, but not more software than the CD
[13:39] <dlublink> I just installed Ubuntu server and need to access another machine using the serial port ( rs232 ), what command do I use ? ( no gui ) Thanks.
[13:39] <philinux> tracy69: there is always a risk upgrading. i would not upgrade my main drive. I test on drive 2
[13:40] <tracy69> philinux, ok
[13:40] <glebihan> ariqs: the DVD release essentially contains more languages support, but not more software than the CD
[13:43] <dlublink> minicom, but it is not in the default install.
[13:43] <dlublink> thanks
[13:44] <rileyp> lirc does not respond to irexec commands until after I close mythtv
[13:44] <rileyp> well actually it receives the inputs but does not process them until I close mythtv
[13:45] <iroquois> would ubuntu installed via wubi be as safe from viruses etc as ubuntu installed alone?
[13:46] <rileyp> iroq yes
[13:46] <iroquois> ty rileyp
[13:47] <chilli0> Anyone here know how to make torrentflux only download at certain times?
[13:48] <Quigles> Hello?
[13:48] <undead> hi
[13:48] <Quigles> Can someone help me with my question on Launchpad?
[13:49] <rileyp> chillio run a cron job to start and stop your program
[13:49] <Pici> Quigles: Is it Ubuntu related? If not, the best place to ask would be #launchpad
[13:49] <rileyp> that is your torrent program
[13:49] <chilli0> Hello , how can I make torrentflux download only during certain hours?
[13:49] <Quigles> Its Ubuntu related
[13:49] <rileyp> chillio use cron
[13:49] <rileyp> man cron
[13:49] <glebihan> !ask | Quigles
[13:49] <Quigles> Its about running Windows 7 in Virtualbox
[13:50] <chilli0> rileyp, Do you know what torrentflux is?
[13:50] <iceroot> Quigles: ##vbox  ##windows
[13:50] <Quigles> Ah
[13:50] <Quigles> ok
[13:50] <Quigles> Thank you
[13:50] <Quigles> This is my question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+question/123941
[13:50] <rileyp> chiilio its a but torrent cleint for downloading torrents?
[13:51] <bihari> MaRk-I:  hi
[13:51] <hungryhubby> how to configure ftp server on ubuntu
[13:51] <chilli0> rileyp, It's a php torrent downloader. So can't use cron because you have to go onto the web site and upload the torrent then press start.
[13:51] <mcgreg> hi
[13:51] <glebihan> Quigles: you won't be able to run a 64-bit system on your VirtualBox if you're running a 32-bit ubuntu
[13:51] <rileyp> then use deluge
[13:51] <Quigles> ok
[13:51] <Quigles> :s
[13:51] <iceroot> Quigles: as i said, this is not the right place, try the channels #vbox or ##windows
[13:52] <chilli0> rileyp, What's deluge?
[13:52] <Quigles> ok
[13:52] <Quigles> sorry
[13:52] <hungryhubby> how to configure static ip in ubuntu
[13:52] <mcgreg> I've just tested ubuntu10.10 in qemu (kvm) - it seems to work fine but I cant move the mouse at all - neither when I boot from cd , nor after the installation - any ideas?
[13:52] <bazhang> mcgreg, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:52] <rileyp> torrent program for up and downloading torrents
[13:52] <mcgreg> bazhang: ok, thx
[13:53] <hungryhubby> anybody willing to share desktop with me
[13:53] <hungryhubby> remote desktop
[13:53] <hungryhubby> ?
[13:53] <glebihan> hungryhubby: use the network manager applet
[13:54] <rileyp> lirc does not respond to irexec commands until after I close mythtv
[13:54] <zzzed> !ask | Quigles
[13:54] <rileyp> well actually it receives the inputs but does not process them until I close mythtv
[13:56] <bihari> i am just a student and i have just now learn C i wants to code a OS how shud i start?
[13:56] <helper> heyss!! why when i add under my "/etc/hostname" = Servername.FQDN and do hostname -f give me error: hostname: Name or service not known ?
[13:57] <bihari> can any one tell me how to beigin with kernel
[13:57] <hungryhubby> how to set permanent ip
[13:57] <glebihan> hungryhubby: use the network manager applet
[13:57] <hungryhubby> is there a tool like netconfig of redhat
[13:57] <helper> hungryhubby, ifconfig
[13:58] <bihari> Am i visebal  ?
[13:58] <Slart> bihari: yes, we can see (or read you)
[13:58] <zzzed> !kernel | bihari
[13:59] <bihari> hummm i have question i know only C that just now i learn and now i wants to use my skill in coding a new OS i need a guide lines
[13:59] <hungryhubby> how to configure ftp server on ubuntu
[13:59] <bazhang> bihari, thats not really an ubuntu support question
[13:59] <hungryhubby> using vsftpd
[13:59] <bazhang> bihari, try ##programming
[13:59] <Madwill> stupid question : i'm at -  root@ENJEUX:~/ffmpeg#  Where is that ??
[13:59] <Slart> hungryhubby: there are several ftp servers available.. they are all more or less difficult to setup
[14:00] <Madwill> i tought it would be home enjeux buts its not
[14:00] <Madwill> where is tilt
[14:00] <bihari> Oki thanks bazhang
[14:00] <lidbjork> Goodbye all!
[14:00] <Madwill> goodbye
[14:00] <Madwill> damn missed him
[14:00] <Slart> Madwill: in roots home folder, in a subdirectory called ffmpeg on the computer called ENJEUX.. or that wasn't what you meant?
[14:00] <pozic> How do I tell Grub2 that I want to boot from a Windows partition?
[14:00] <glebihan> Madwill: /root/ffmpeg
[14:01] <Madwill> thx !
[14:01] <pozic> The wiki page is completely useless for this particular purpose.
[14:01] <Madwill> starting to understand that a bit more
[14:01] <Slart> Madwill: pwd is a nice command.. prints out the working directory
[14:01] <Madwill> WOOT !
[14:02] <glebihan> pozic: update-grub should handle this automatically
[14:02] <Madwill> you guys are the best
[14:02] <Slart> pozic: I think grub2 automated most of the things you could fiddle with in grub 1. Just running update-grub should make it find your windows partition and create a menu option for it
[14:02] <pozic> Slart: it is on a external harddisk.
[14:02] <GHH> is it possible to install PIXMA canon(2772) printer?
[14:02] <pozic> Slart: does that matter?
[14:03] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org says what about that GHH
[14:03] <Slart> pozic: I don't think so.. as long as the external drive is connected when you run the command
[14:03] <pozic> Slart: it is not listed in the update-grub2 output.
[14:03] <glebihan> pozic: do you know the device name for your external drive ?
[14:04] <pozic> glebihan: /dev/sdb1
[14:04] <pozic> glebihan: or 'yes' ;)
[14:04] <glebihan> pozic: ok, I'll paste you lines to add to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:04] <pozic> glebihan: that is useless.
[14:04] <nber> is the chain overlay support in openldap on lucid?  i can't find any info on how to install it
[14:04] <pozic> glebihan: running update-grub2 again, will just destroy those changes, no?
[14:05] <Slart> glebihan: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst any more
[14:05] <pozic> glebihan: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst anymore, AFAIK.
[14:05] <Slart> glebihan: that is for grub 1
[14:05] <Slart> !grub2
[14:05] <glebihan> pozic: yep,s orry
[14:06] <glebihan> pozic: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[14:08] <rileyp> bazhang,  any ideas why lirc does not respond to irexec commands until after i close mythtv
[14:09] <rileyp> but it does sometimes
[14:09] <bazhang> rileyp, not sure, #ubuntu-mythtv might know
[14:11] <Synthead> where are the actual .deb files stored on the mirrors?
[14:11] <rileyp> baz Im there as well :D
[14:11] <pozic> glebihan: that is just a bunch of text, what specifically tells me how to fix this?
[14:12] <x-izzy> can someone tell me how i can get into ccpower?
[14:12] <glebihan> pozic: Add this http://paste.ubuntu.com/487788/ to your grub.cfg
[14:12] <glebihan> pozic: replacing hd0 by your device name
[14:13] <pozic> glebihan: that does not work in general.
[14:13] <sabqat9> can't get my laptop with ubuntu 10.04 to recognize or use my internet connection (this is a new problem) (i have been using the system normally for about two months with no problems)
[14:13] <pozic> glebihan: grub.cfg is overwritten by a tool.
[14:13] <gmachine_24> Is there a Linux/Ubuntu equivalent to Eraser - a program that overwrites all unused space on a hard drive?
[14:13] <GHH> no luck in that site
[14:13] <GHH> any help please?
[14:13] <bazhang> GHH, what does it say
[14:13] <Synthead> where are the actual .deb files stored on the mirrors?
[14:13] <pozic> GHH: shredder.
[14:13] <coz_> gmachine_24,  yes  it is called   secure-delete
[14:13] <glebihan> pozic: well, it's overridden by update-grub after kernel update
[14:13] <Synthead> gmachine_24: scrub
[14:13] <gmachine_24> coz_, many thanks
[14:14] <GHH> i do not find anything useful
[14:14] <gmachine_24> Synthead U2
[14:14] <coz_> gmachine_24,  sudo apt-get install secure-delete  and  please  read the man page for it :)
[14:14] <booklet> hello i try to install ubunto 10.04 on a nokia booklet everything is fine except the screen withe a poor 800x600 resolution = any solution ?
[14:14] <fredo> wat is internet pppoeconf command  to start internet in fedora13
[14:14] <pozic> glebihan: ok, if I add that to the right file, it will probably work.
[14:14] <bazhang> GHH, mostly works, works, paperweight?
[14:14] <coz_> gmachine_24,  you can also  "defrag"  your memory with that if you like
[14:14] <ikonia> bazhang: look at the video card in the nokia's compatability
[14:14] <Synthead> where are the actual .deb files stored on the mirrors?
[14:14] <glebihan> pozic: but AFAIK there is no other solution for a system on an external drive
[14:14] <GHH> i can't install the printer
[14:14] <Synthead> does everyone here not know?
[14:14] <x-izzy> i need to get into ccpower server how do i do that/
[14:15] <bazhang> GHH, what does the site say about it
[14:15] <Gaurav> what is the difference between xchat and xchat gnome....?
[14:15] <glebihan> Synthead: what do you mean exactly ?
[14:15] <sabqat9> anyone available to help - is this the right place to ask for help?
[14:15] <GHH> saying about cups
[14:15] <ikonia> bazhang: sorry - not you
[14:15] <glebihan> !ask | sabqat9
[14:15] <coz_> sabqat9,  it is the right place for ubuntu issues  ..yes
[14:15] <Synthead> glebihan: I'm going to extract some binaries from sarge for a 2.4 embedded device, so I'm looking for .deb files on the mirrors
[14:15] <GHH> but it do not connect
[14:16] <bazhang> GHH, works, mostly works, or paperweight which one
[14:16] <glebihan> Synthead: what mirror is it ?
[14:16] <pozic> What is the Grub name for /dev/sdb1?
[14:16] <sabqat9> can't get my laptop with ubuntu 10.04 to recognize or use my internet connection (this is a new problem) (i have been using the system normally for about two months with no problems)
[14:16] <Synthead> glebihan: I don't really care which mirror I use if I'm able to get sarge packages
[14:16] <bazhang> Synthead, thats debian
[14:16] <Synthead> glebihan: at the moment I'm looking at http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/dists/sarge/
[14:16] <bazhang> Synthead, try #debian
[14:17] <Synthead> glebihan: debian and ubuntu mirrors are the same
[14:17] <zzzed> pozic, hd1,1
[14:17] <bazhang> Synthead, no they are not
[14:17] <Synthead> glebihan: well, where are they stored in ubuntu then?
[14:17] <glebihan> Synthead: have a look at http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/pool/
[14:17] <bazhang> Synthead, you are running debian, ask in #debian
[14:17] <erdnase> Gooood day. I installed ndiswrapper, the driver, the firmware, dhcpcd, modprobed it and everything. And now my wireless router is listed on the Connections. But, when I try to connect to it, it just fails.
[14:18] <GHH> bazhang, Do you think it is possible to install any printer ?
[14:18] <pozic> zzzed: thanks, I already had read the manual, which stated 1 indeed for the partition. I didn't know yet whether disks started at zero or one, though. Thanks.
[14:18] <erdnase> I blocked bcm43xx too, they said bcm and ndis doesn't work well together.
[14:18] <bazhang> GHH, sure it is. please answer my question
[14:18] <glebihan> pozic: I think you shoul replace /dev/sda1 by /dev/sdb1 and keep hd0
[14:18] <sabqat9> can anyone at least provide direction so that i can try to resolve the problem myself?  i am new to linux and actually made the transition to ubuntu from vista because i got tired of that os
[14:18] <pozic> glebihan: I already made the correct changes, at least according to the documentation.
[14:18] <Synthead> glebihan: this is what I needed, thanks
[14:18] <pozic> glebihan: update-grub2 should now fix it.
[14:19] <glebihan> pozic: ok
[14:19] <glebihan> Synthead: you're welcome
[14:19] <pozic> glebihan: I hope I won't be back :)
[14:19] <GHH> bazhang, Sorry i did not understand your question well
[14:19] <bazhang> GHH, go to the site: linuxprinting.org  enter your computer in the search database and check if it says: works, mostly works, or paperweight
[14:20] <glebihan> Synthead: this is a general directory structure, in dists there index files, and in pool deb files
[14:21] <x-izzy> i need help
[14:21] <x-izzy> i am new
[14:21] <zzzed> !ask | x-izzy
[14:21] <mydokumen> hay
[14:24] <david> My laptop installation of ubuntu 10.04 broke a few days ago after updating... After working perfect - keyboard and trackpad just died! Now everything boots as normal - but I can't move cursor or use keyboard
[14:24] <david> Any way to get into textmode or nuke settings from LiveCD?
[14:25] <x-izzy> info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC
[14:25] <x-izzy> i need help
[14:25] <bazhang> x-izzy, with what
[14:26] <skumara> !ask x-izzy
[14:26] <pozic> Ok, it appears it doesn't actuallly work. It appears the device name is incorrect. I mean: there is no reason why /dev/sdb1 would correspond to hd1,1 every single time, because it is an external harddisk.
[14:26] <x-izzy> i need to get into ccpower
[14:26] <glebihan> david: you would have to edit boot options, and add "ro single" to the kernel line
[14:26] <bazhang> x-izzy, what is ccpower
[14:26] <pozic> So, somewhere I have to establish that the physical device next to my machine maps to some stable hd<x>,<y> name.
[14:26] <pozic> How do I do that?
[14:27] <x-izzy> or irc.crimeirc.net
[14:27] <david> glebihan: are you familiar with this "flaw"?
[14:27] <rek> 1 hour and 9 minutes for 15 gb ? si that too much ? eth to eth ssh
[14:27] <x-izzy> i did it earlier but now don't know how to get it to the server
[14:27] <bazhang> x-izzy, try in #freenode
[14:27] <x-izzy> #freenode
[14:28] <zzzed> x-izzy, type '/join #freenode'
[14:28] <lduros> hello, is there a linux tool that would allow me to quickly records a series of sound recordings (microphone) without have to save as etc, sort of on the fly?
[14:28] <satonio> hi
[14:28] <x-izzy> kk
[14:28] <erdnase> Hello. I can't connect to my wlan0. I don't know why, I installed the firmware already and ndiswrapper. Blocked bcm43xx. Still nothing.
[14:28] <skumara> x-izzy, i just connected to that irc. its a channel for hackers and virus developers.
[14:29] <glebihan> david: not really, but at least recovery mode would give you more output and might help you identify the issue
[14:29] <x-izzy> yes
[14:29] <x-izzy> i want to get there
[14:29] <x-izzy> how do i do that?
[14:29] <rek> heiii
[14:29] <skumara> !who | x-izzy
[14:29] <ikonia> x-izzy: that is nothing to do with this channel, please use the internet to learn how to use irc
[14:29] <satonio> i had a firefox profile shared between win and ubuntu, today updated ubuntu and it started to say me that the profile is in use but it seems it have access to the folder (in fact it creates the .parentlock file each try). any ideas?
 pls i am new
[14:30] <GHH> bazhang, there is no the model number
[14:30] <no-use> satonio: why don't you use firefox sync to share tabs and bookmarks across firefox installations
[14:31] <skumara> x-izzy, i see you on the channel i open just now
[14:31] <Madwill> humm i want php to be able to execute ffmpeg in order to convert some video automaticly
[14:31] <bazhang> GHH, what's the computer make and model again
[14:31] <x-izzy> yes
[14:31] <Madwill> should i make a chown www-data to ffmpeg binary
[14:31] <Madwill> and then go something like chmod 777
[14:31] <glebihan> pozix: you may have to reconfigure your bios to first boot from usb device
[14:31] <glebihan> pozic: you may have to reconfigure your bios to first boot from usb device
[14:31] <c3l> satonio: I thought that was doomed to fail. when I talked to some mozilla folks they just told me that thatd be a bad thing to do, maybe youve been lucky so far
[14:32] <sabqat9> i used '$sudo lshw' and in the network section       *-network UNCLAIMED      . . . . .. appears - is ubuntu recognizing my network card?
[14:32] <ugliefrog> bigfoot sightings oklahoma
[14:32] <oeoeoeoe> hello. i have a 120hz lcd monitor (2233rz) and a geforce gtx 260 graphics card. when i start up ubuntu the framerate is only 60hz. as soon as i run nvidia-settings the screen goes black for a second, comes back and then the framerate is 120hz. i would like to have the 120hz upon startup without having to run nvidia-settings every time. how?
[14:32] <bazhang> ugliefrog, what?
[14:32] <GHH> bazhang, PIXMA canon iP 2772
[14:32] <ugliefrog> oops....thought i was in browser :)
[14:32] <c3l> satonio: no-use's idea is good, unfortunately settings and search engines etc doesnt get synced, I really miss syncing search engines, any ideas how to do that?
[14:33] <glebihan> pozic: or have a look at grub-mkdevicemap
[14:33] <esperegu> I am trying to fix my xorg.conf. I get a (WW) MACH64: UCI Mach64 in slot 3:5:0 will not be probed. and then an A unlead module and that no screens have a usable configuration. any suggestions?
[14:33] <Somelauw> How do I get an image as small as 10kB?
[14:34] <pozic> I also only get segfaults when I try to mount the ntfs volume: http://paste.debian.net/87548/
[14:34] <pozic> Using _all_ the drivers.
[14:34] <Briffy> Hey, does anyone have much experience with Squid and/or sed in Ubuntu?
[14:35] <ikonia> Briffy: just explain your problem
[14:35] <pozic> Briffy: those things are not Ubuntu specific.
[14:35] <c3l> Somelauw: lower the resolution and quailty and use some more effective format
[14:35] <GHH> bazhang, ?
[14:35] <david> glebihan: where's that boot menu? I thought it'd be boot/grub/menu.1st..
[14:36] <sabqat9> lshw  -C network              gives me          network UNCLAIMED            system was working properly before but now I can't get it to connect to anything
[14:36] <satonio> c3l, i'll try it thanks
[14:36] <glebihan> david: didn't you say you were using the live cd ?
[14:36] <Briffy> Well, I've got a squid proxy running and creating logs to access.log. It works fine in that it adds a line to the log everytime a HTTP request is made. However, I want to delete certain lines based on a string. I've used sed to do this and it works, sort of. The line is deleted, but after I run the sed command, squid just stops creating new logs until I restart it. Any ideas?
[14:36] <rek> heei
[14:37] <david> glebihan: I am
[14:37] <david> but I thought I'd edit the HDD partition
[14:37] <pozic> How can I access an NTFS volume in a way that does not crash?
[14:37] <ikonia> Briffy: possibly as the file is still open from your sed command
[14:37] <glebihan> david: for live cd you have to edit the commands at boot time
[14:37] <sabqat9> can anyone just verify if this is a problem i can possibly fix myself - or do i actually need help from an unbuntu pro?
[14:38] <sabqat9> ubuntu sorry
[14:38] <glebihan> david: one of the F? keys gives you access to that
[14:38] <david> pressing "e" during boot doesn't seem to help
[14:38] <david> oh.. hmm
[14:38] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811811 GHH try this
[14:38] <bazhang> GHH, that printer will work, but not easy to get going (not well supported)
[14:39] <GHH> need some research?
[14:39] <Briffy> ikonia: That's what I was thinking. Is there a way to force the stream to close or something? I'll check to see if sed is still running after the command and, if so, kill it.
[14:39] <bazhang> GHH, I just did it. check that link.
[14:39] <ikonia> Briffy: you can't "force" it to close, however you can make sure the command closes it tidy
[14:39] <oeoeoeoe> how to enable my monitors 120hz refresh rate?
[14:39] <bloopletech> How do I tell apt-get that I have manually installed librrd, so that when I install collectd it doesn't automatically install librrd?
[14:40] <ikonia> bloopletech: you can't
[14:40] <ikonia> bloopletech: thats what package managment is all about
[14:40] <Briffy> ikonia: Don't suppose you know the syntax off the top of your head, do you? :P
[14:40] <ikonia> Briffy: stripping out an open log is not a good idea
[14:40] <Somelauw> c3l, Is there a way to scale a to an image to a fixed size?
[14:40] <c3l> bloopletech: the solution is to not install manually :)
[14:40] <ikonia> Briffy: better to stip the log to a seperate file and then use/parse that file
[14:41] <pozic> Somelauw: convert probably can do that.
[14:41] <bloopletech> c3l: and how do I solve the problem that the packaged copy of librrd has bindings that are incompatible with ruby 1.9.2, which is the version of ruby I use?
[14:41] <ikonia> bloopletech: you log a bug with the developers to have the package fixed
[14:41] <glebihan> pozic: you seem not to be the only one with this issue, but I can't find a solution
[14:41] <c3l> Somelauw: gimp (similar to photoshop) cand manipulate images any way you want, there are command line tools, but gimp might be more user friendly
[14:42] <david> time to try this out
[14:42] <oeoeoeoe> hi can anyone tell me how to turn my monitor on.
[14:42] <trelayne> hey all Gwibber stopped working because of the twitters move away from basic auth to OAuth. Anyone know how to fix this?
[14:42] <bloopletech> ikonia: right thanks. I've actually fixed the issue so I can use it *now* by patching and recompiling
[14:42] <ajsie> how do i find out what applications are using what ports?
[14:43] <ikonia> bloopletech: even better, submit the patch to the maintainers of the package
[14:43] <trelayne> ajsie, netstat pan
[14:43] <ajsie> trelayne: thank
[14:43] <ajsie> s
[14:43] <c3l> bloopletech: not sure in your case. but you can always specify what version you want to install. if your repo doesnt have what you need, chanses are there is a repo with just what you need, or install deb files via dpkg (dont think apt does it(
[14:44] <sabqat9> my problem seem to come after updating ubuntu - anyway i can just revert back
[14:44] <pozic> glebihan: can you give an URL to someone else having the problem?
[14:45] <VP> Using Ubuntu 10.04, cant disable touchpad while typing, How to fully disable it?
[14:45] <pozic> glebihan: the real problem is that I cannot print to some corporate printer.
[14:45] <trelayne> ajsie, netstat -pan
[14:45] <pozic> glebihan: if Ubuntu fixed its situation there, it would also be OK.
[14:45] <newbie> hello
[14:45] <GHH> bazhang, When i installed the driver in windows xp the soft output 2700 model drver. And then i searched it and got a driver but unable to install it
[14:45] <trelayne> ajsie, then do a ps -ef | grep <pid> , where <pid> is taken from the second to last column
[14:46] <ajsie> trelayne: okay
[14:46] <bazhang> GHH, then you need to read the link I sent you
[14:46] <VP> Using Ubuntu 10.04, cant disable touchpad of my laptop while typing, How to fully disable it?
[14:47] <glebihan> pozic: well here he's getting the same segfault, but during a different operation (not mount), http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-glibc@lists.debian.org/msg41033.html
[14:47] <VP> May I expect help here?
[14:47] <VP> Using Ubuntu 10.04, cant disable touchpad of my laptop while typing, How to fully disable it?
[14:47] <trelayne> Hi all is it safe to enable pre-release updates in software sources?
[14:47] <skumara> VP chosse system > preferences > mouse > touchpad> disable touch pad while typing
[14:48] <trelayne> I need to get the latest stable version of Gwibber
[14:48] <ikonia> trelayne: no
[14:48] <erdnase> Hello. I can't connect to my wlan0. I don't know why, I installed the firmware already and ndiswrapper. Blocked bcm43xx. Still nothing.
[14:49] <VP> skumara: I've tried, it's not working properly, pointer moves while typing
[14:49] <VP> skumara: I need to completely disable it
[14:50] <VP> disabling touchpad for always was possible in 9.04
[14:50] <skumara> VP u see, myone working well. my pointer completely disappear while typing.
[14:51] <skumara> VP what laptop model u using?
[14:51] <mydokumen> hay
[14:51] <VP> Dell Inspiron 1525
[14:51] <mydokumen> hay
[14:51] <mydokumen> all
[14:51] <pozic> Is the Canon iRC3080i supported under Ubuntu?
[14:52] <bazhang> pozic, what does linuxprinting.org say about it?
[14:52] <iceroot> !hardware | pozic
[14:52] <skumara> VP are using synaptic touch pad driver for xorg?
[14:52] <skumara> VP are u
[14:52] <bazhang> iceroot, for future reference: !printer
[14:52] <iceroot> bazhang: ok
[14:53] <alfonzo1955> Sound no longer works on my GNOME after I installed KDE.
[14:53] <VP> how to check?
[14:53] <alfonzo1955> And Wireless does not work on KDE.
[14:53] <alfonzo1955> Is that a bad thing?
[14:53] <pozic> bazhang: Your search yielded no results
[14:53] <skumara> VP look in software centre and see wheather its installed or not?
[14:53] <makaveli> hello
[14:53] <bazhang> pozic, let me check
[14:54] <alfonzo1955> Help me!
[14:54] <alfonzo1955> Please!
[14:54] <Omicr0n> VP Most likely is using synaptic.....
[14:54] <switchgirl> anyone spead swedish?
[14:54] <skumara> VP i dont know wheather it will work or not there is something called touchfreeze in software centre. try it
[14:54] <yuhang> Green_gaga
[14:54] <makaveli> here i will describe a problem in ubuntu
[14:54] <Omicr0n> VP try this: http://www.andrewferrier.com/blog/2010/06/04/disabling-synaptics-touchpad-with-ubuntu-10-04/
[14:55] <glebihan> switchgirl: it's ab english only channel
[14:55] <makaveli> i made a change in /etc/pam.d/common-password
[14:55] <makaveli> password        [success=1 default=ignore]      pam_unix.so obscure min=4 sha512
[14:55] <makaveli> but the minimum of the password is not 4
[14:55] <yuhang> how to use xrgsu
[14:55] <ikonia> switchgirl: try the ubuntu sweden channel, it's listed on the loco web page
[14:55] <DJones> !swedish > switchgirl
[14:56] <makaveli> cannot change the password lenght in ubuntu
[14:56] <makaveli> il also try pam_cracklib.so
[14:56] <makaveli> password        requisite                       pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=10 difok=5
[14:57] <makaveli> the minlen of the password is not 10
[14:57] <makaveli> why?
[14:57] <makaveli> cannot change the password lenght
[14:57] <ServerTech> Hmm, what is the copy command?? like move is mv and what is copy?
[14:57] <bloopletech> ServerTech, cp
[14:58] <pozic> bazhang: nothing there, right?
[14:58] <ServerTech> thank you
[14:58] <bazhang> pozic, still looking
[14:58] <pozic> bazhang: can I open a bug for this device somewhere?
[14:59] <pozic> bazhang: I would like to be notified when someone decides to fix this.
[14:59] <pozic> That printing in 2010 still is the same problem as it was in 2000 is rather disappointing.
[14:59] <bazhang> pozic, you wish me to stop searching then?
[14:59] <bazhang> !bug > pozic
[14:59] <pozic> bazhang: no, please keep searching.
[15:00] <ServerTech> rename is mv oldfile newfile right
[15:00] <bloopletech> ServerTech, yes
[15:00] <ServerTech> thx
[15:00] <pozic> bazhang: it is more of a feature request.
[15:00] <pozic> bazhang: and I suppose the package would be cups.
[15:01] <pozic> bazhang: anyway, I reboot now, to see whether Windows can mount my ntfs partition...
[15:01] <bazhang> http://driverscollection.com/?file_cid=418892208574413a24d908a1938 pozic this is what I found, been tested as of 9.04  your mileage may vary
[15:02] <redbullfx> hey everyone. I need help setting up my Logitech G9 Mouse. Can someone point me in the right direction? I plug it in and Ubuntu 10.04 does not pick it up. What do I have to download? Anyone please?
[15:03] <phetips> Quick question: Can anyone explain to me what mechanism ensures a normal user cannot overwrite the symlink /bin/sh allthough it's permissions are set to 0777?
[15:03] <philinux> redbullfx: open a terminal and use lsusb and see if it is shown
[15:03] <redbullfx> ok one sec
[15:03] <artin> When installing Ubuntu alternate, can I chose the non-expert install, and will then be asked to encrypt the whole disk, or does it need the expert mode for that?
[15:03] <JohnSQ> I boot into Ubuntu and I get a message about must enter in Low-graphics mode.  It keeps cycling me between the menu no matter what I pick.  How do I fix this low graphics mode error.  All I did to cause it was change the resolution in windows and restart.
[15:04] <tschundeee> I need ubuntu on my productive system that I work with
[15:04] <tschundeee> should I try 10.10?
[15:04] <sipior> tschundeee: no, stick with 10.04
[15:04] <c3l> tschundeee: its a beta, expect bugs, stick with 10.04
[15:04] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 discussion tschundeee
[15:04] <phetips> Quick question: Can anyone explain to me what mechanism ensures a normal user cannot overwrite the symlink /bin/sh allthough it's permissions are set to 0777?
[15:04] <tschundeee> thx for these usefull hints
[15:05] <philinux> redbullfx: try pluggin the mouse directly in to pc not via hub
[15:05] <Squarism> is there some nice ubuntu / gnome email notifier.. that integrates with "social" software tray applet
[15:05] <BluesKaj> artin, I think the manual partitioning option gives the choice of encryption or not
[15:06] <artin> BluesKaj, thank you
[15:06] <martian> Is there a way to create a tar by specifying an absolute path like /a/b/c/d but have the archive contents be relative to 'c'?
[15:06] <tschundeee> can I simply upgrade when 10.10 is out or are the chances pretty good that I will receive a "dirty-upgrade" and my OS will be not as smooth as installing the system from scratch? (e.g. lots of old elements and configuration issues) ???
[15:06] <hfmp> Hi
[15:06] <phetips> let me rephrase, can anyone explain to me why all symlinks in /bin are set to 0777?
[15:06] <hfmp> Can anyone help me testing my ftp?
[15:07] <hfmp> server
[15:07] <martian> phetips: perhaps as sudo you made a clerical error some time?
[15:07] <zadarmo3> I have problem with metacity - when I run it all windows disappear but when I kill the process they appear but without the title bar
[15:07] <JohnSQ> I boot into Ubuntu and I get a message about must enter in Low-graphics mode.  It keeps cycling me between the menu no matter what I pick.  How do I fix this low graphics mode error.  All I did to cause it was change the resolution in windows and restart.
[15:07] <phetips> martian: default install =\
[15:07] <ip-route> how limit bandwidth by pid?
[15:07] <c3l> tschundeee: if you want a long term supported dist go with 10.04, it wont get old in less than 3 years basically
[15:07] <martian> phetips: you been pwnd? (kidding)
[15:07] <phetips> martian: also, they are all 0777 but i cannot remove or overwrite any of them
[15:08] <SPM_> phetips: for overwrite symlink you have to have write permission to the folder... I think
[15:08] <phetips> SPM_: sounds reasonable
[15:08] <phetips> hehe i thought i had found a local root vuln ;p
[15:08] <phetips> /bin/sh world writable would allow a wrapper around dash
[15:08] <tschundeee> c3l: yeah but I also want the newest candy... like the new gnome and the new volume bar with music integration etc
[15:08] <phetips> to hax up the boot time scripts
[15:09] <sipior> phetips: have a look at the paragraph on link permissions in "man symlink"
[15:09] <DoubleString> hey all
[15:09] <phetips> sipior: thanks
[15:09] <wligtenb> Could someone help me getting VNC to work over SSH?
[15:09] <philinux> tschundeee: I have home on it's own partition and do a clean install with each new release.
[15:09] <martian> phetips: ahh, I didn't even see the menion of symlinks; I was thinking it was everything in /bin
[15:09] <wligtenb> The community docs seem really old
[15:09] <phetips> martian: hehe no that would've been bad :)
[15:09] <sipior> phetips: executive summary: the permissions are irrelevant.
[15:10] <c3l> tschundeee: the upgrade between dists is generally not the best, but its easy to save all your configurations ang list of installed programs, to reinstall wich one command. I suggest going with 10.04 untill 10.10 is stable, then just install from scrach, this is the safest and most bugless way, but requires some more work
[15:10] <tschundeee> philinux: that seems to be a nice way to upgrade
[15:10] <phetips> sipior: yes but had they been in another folder where i would have write permissions, they wouldn't be
[15:10] <sipior> phetips: no. you need to be the owner of the symlink. read that paragraph.
[15:10] <phetips> sipior: heh sorry i will :)
[15:11] <philinux> tschundeee: Indeed. all config files are there and my panel and desktop customisations
[15:11] <tschundeee> c3l: thx for this hint... is there a way to save your setup so I can reinstall all packages with one command?
[15:11] <c3l> tschundeee: backup both home and configs, new installs will barely be noticed :)
[15:12] <frxstrem> is there a VNC server that would run as a background process, and allow me to control my computer even at the login screen etc. where the built-in server does not?
[15:13] <ugliefrog> has anyone else been having an issue where gwibber broadcast accounts window pops up randomly
[15:13] <MarkRich> Hello,
[15:13] <MarkRich> I'd like to change the run level of ubuntu 10.4 by editing the proper configuration file.  According to the information I've seen, it can be accomplished by editing the file inittab in the /etc directory, or the rc-default file in the /etc/event.d directory.  However, the inittab file doesn't exist in /etc.  Neither does the rc-default file exist in the event.d directory.  Any ideas?
[15:13] <c3l> tschundeee: I dont remember the command now, dpkg can print all installed packages to a file, and then install packages listed in this file, but thatll list ALL installed packages, you only want manually insalled, it migh be smarter to add packages to that list maually, to easier controll it, but im not sure how apt or dpkg wants that list to look, I think its a package per line, nothing else. look at the manpage :)
[15:14] <bazhang> !clone | c3l
[15:14] <phetips> sipior: according to this ownership also only matters with parent directory set to sticky
[15:15] <c3l> tschundeee: look at what what ubottu told me :)
[15:15] <suigeneris> hey, what package or way can I use to restrict users to not being able to use the menu?
[15:15] <Pici> !runlevels | MarkRich
[15:15] <c3l> frxstrem: most things can be ran via ssh, no vnc needed
[15:16] <Pici> suigeneris: You may want to look into saybayon (the package, not the distro) or pessulus. I've not used either myself though.
[15:16] <frxstrem> c3l, I know, and I have considered that, but I just would like VNC better (to be able to have a desktop environment, not only command line control)
[15:16] <MarkRich> Thanks for the information, but is there a simple configuration file that can be edited to switch the runlevel?
[15:17] <martian> Is there a way to create a tar, the contents of which are relative to a specific path while still specifying an absolute path in the command?
[15:17] <c3l> frxstrem: ssh also has the ability to run X programs, you rarely need the entire DE
[15:17] <suigeneris> Pici do you mean sabayon?
[15:17] <Pici> suigeneris: Yes. sorry.
[15:18] <frxstrem> c3l, I know - but I *want* to be have it
[15:18] <c3l> frxstrem: strang ;) and sorry, I know nothing about VNC's
[15:19] <suigeneris> Pici FYI sabayon installes pessulus too
[15:19] <suigeneris> installs*
[15:19] <Pici> suigeneris: Oh, good to know.
[15:20] <phetips> Aggie Email Virus
[15:20] <phetips> You have just received the Aggie Virus! Because we don't know
[15:20] <phetips> how to program computers, this virus works on the honor system.
[15:20] <phetips> Please delete all the files from your hard drive and manually
[15:20] <phetips> forward this virus to everyone on your mailing list.
[15:20] <FloodBot3> phetips: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:20] <phetips> Thanks for your cooperation.
[15:20] <Pici> phetips: Please don't do that here.
[15:21] <phetips> Pici: apologies
[15:21] <tschundeee> c3l: this is really nice stuff... if the ubuntu core team could pack this one into a nice gui it could be a really nice feature
[15:21] <Mba7eth> hey guys ..... is there any clear manual how to install multiple distro on the same box ?  I've searched google but didnt get any reliable
[15:22] <phetips> Mba7eth: make loads of partitions, you can do that in the ubuntu installer
[15:22] <bazhang> Mba7eth, using grub2?
[15:22] <phetips> then just install other distros, and configure grub to load them
[15:22] <c3l> tschundeee: yeah, or at least make an accessible guide for everyone, as this seems to be something alot of people want, and its expected with the fast phase of new releases
[15:22] <Mba7eth> bazhang, yeah ,..... btw i'm trying to install rhel and ubuntu but i'm not figuring out how .....
[15:23] <suigeneris> Pici sabayon looks really useful, thanks
[15:23] <Pici> suigeneris: sure :)
[15:23] <MarkRich> Hello, does anyone know the name of the file that can be edited to change the default runlevel in Ubuntu 10.4?
[15:23] <ubuntu> hey guys.... my grub is screwed up. i followed the wiki diretoins till when the grub opens up and then i don't konw what to do to 'make it fit the system' the problem arose after i installed ubunty 10.04
[15:23] <c3l> Mba7eth: just install all the distros, grub'll find them (maybe you need to tell grub too find them)
[15:23] <Monotoko> MarkRich, I dont think Ubuntu 10.04 uses runlevels as such anymore
[15:24] <Monotoko> what are you trying to accomplish?
[15:24] <bazhang> MarkRich, did you not read the factoid for runlevel?
[15:24] <Mba7eth> c3l, i already did that but only either work ..... not both
[15:25] <sipior> MarkRich: /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf
[15:25] <bazhang> !runlevel > MarkRich
[15:26] <ubuntu> guys... can anyone help me now?
[15:26] <Monotoko> ubuntu...whats up?
[15:26] <Monotoko> sorry...missed your message
[15:26] <ubuntu> well.... every time i try installing ubuntu.. there's some error which wil take up hours of searching an asking.. :)  i have typed my queston above
[15:27] <castr0> How do you use ldap in evolution for contacts?
[15:27] <Monotoko> ubuntu, whats the error?
[15:28] <ubuntu> when system loads it's the message before starting up "GRUB error symbol 'grub_puts' not found"
[15:28] <ubuntu> followed by a blinking cursor
[15:28] <castr0> I've been looking all over evolution options and I don't see where I can add an ldap server
[15:29] <coz_> castr0,  did you tick the autocomplet  for ldap address book
[15:29] <Monotoko> ubuntu, have you tried your LiveCD
[15:30] <ubuntu> i am browsing through my LIVE CD right now
[15:30] <ubuntu> but it's 9.10 version
[15:30] <ubuntu> installed 9.10 day before yesterday
[15:30] <MarkRich> Thanks <sipior>
[15:30] <ubuntu> upgraded today morning and left for work
[15:30] <tehowe> Hello - I need to upgrade tracker and that will erase my entire database of tags I've added to my saved news archive. I need a BASH script, then, to pipe out the existing tags to a text file and then automagically feed them back into the new tracker. I'm a BASH n00b however so what would the right commands to use be? SED to parse the text file and XARG to feed the results back into tracker-tag?
[15:30] <Monotoko> ubuntu...that should be okay
[15:30] <Monotoko> one second
[15:30] <coz_> ubuntu,  did you download the current version?
[15:30] <ubuntu> no
[15:30] <ubuntu> i am from india
[15:30] <castr0> coz_ where is that I don't even see that
[15:30] <ubuntu> with a 0.5kbps connection
[15:30] <coz_> castr0,  hold on
[15:30] <ubuntu> if i download now a whole os again.. that will take me hours... isn't there a qu icker solution?
[15:31] <Monotoko> ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:31] <Monotoko> should help you reset your GRUB menu
[15:31] <ubuntu> i am going through those similar pages.. it's just that after the grub edit opens up i don't konw what to do
[15:31] <trzu> I couldn't find one, do you know a IRC channel about notebook hardware?
[15:31] <Monotoko> ubuntu, what bit are you stuck on precisely?
[15:31] <ubuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[15:32] <ubuntu> this is the link i am following
[15:32] <coz_> castr0,  you may want to look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Evolution  it talks of setting up the ldap address book on your system
[15:32] <bazhang> trzu, try ##hardware
[15:32] <ubuntu> id n't konw what to do after **nano /etc/default/grub***
[15:33] <GHH> bazhang, problem(perhaps simple)
[15:33] <bazhang> GHH, followed that link?
[15:34] <_L30_> i was trying to install skipfish and when i type cd skipfish
[15:34] <_L30_> i get a error , permission denied
[15:34] <castr0> coz_ I read that, the problem is instead of describing how to setup an ldap addressbook it sends you to a link that no longer exists
[15:34] <GHH> bazhang, yeah and found a Ubuntu driver
[15:34] <GHH> bazhang, Just a problem to install
[15:34] <bazhang> GHH, are you 32 or 64bit
[15:35] <GHH> bazhang, 32
[15:35] <bazhang> GHH, then install the driver and restart cups
[15:35] <_L30_> i was trying to install skipfish and when i type cd skipfish i get a error , bash: permission denied
[15:35] <tf2ftw> i just mezzed my .profile file.. anyway to bring it back? almost all command line comands are not recognized nw
[15:35] <bazhang> GHH, just as it says in that link
[15:35] <ubuntu> Monotoko: you found anything?
[15:35] <obscurant1st> whenever i open any help file ie *.chm it shows page cannot be dislplayed if the client is windows xp, how can i avoid this situation?
[15:35] <trzu> thank you bazhang
[15:36] <obscurant1st> i mean when using Virtualbox
[15:37] <GHH> bazhang, but not installing it
[15:37] <xorgpisser> ubum2 - a bloated build of LIzards' New UniX, designed for schools.
[15:38] <GHH> bazhang, giving me a error and i am not understanding it well the error
[15:38] <bazhang> GHH, paste.ubuntu.com with the error
[15:38] <GHH> OK
[15:39] <pozic> bazhang: found anything?
[15:39] <bazhang> http://driverscollection.com/?file_cid=418892208574413a24d908a1938 pozic you quit just as I pasted it last time
[15:40] <_L30_> i was trying to install skipfish and when i type cd skipfish i get a error , bash: permission denied
[15:40] <GHH> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/487825/
[15:40] <pozic> bazhang: that is a random third party website.
[15:40] <pozic> bazhang: there is no reason that it is not malware.
[15:40] <Sagiftw> k
[15:40] <bazhang> pozic, so that printer is not well supported.
[15:41] <pozic> bazhang: right, that's what the situation was a year ago or so.
[15:41] <pozic> bazhang: thanks anyway.
[15:41] <bazhang> GHH, checking now
[15:41] <_L30_> anyone to help me?
[15:41] <_L30_> i already posted it for a while
[15:41] <bazhang> GHH, that is a .deb file, correct?
[15:42] <GHH> bazhang, yeah but for ubuntu
[15:42] <bazhang> GHH, you're not on ubuntu?
[15:43] <GHH> bazhang, yeah ubuntu
[15:43] <user9> bunga
[15:43] <user9> 12345
[15:43] <bazhang> GHH, what about right click open with gdebi
[15:43] <bazhang> user9, support question?
[15:43] <redouane> #ubuntu.fr
[15:44] <GHH> bazhang, the package full name: cnijfilter-ip2700series-3.30-1-i386-deb.tar.gz
[15:44] <bazhang> GHH, okay, then you need to extract the deb from that
[15:44] <bazhang> GHH, once that is done right click install with gdebi
[15:44] <bazhang> GHH, followed by a restart of cups
[15:45] <GHH> bazhang, the package full name: yeah and then i tried to install
[15:45] <bazhang> sudo install.sh  <--- GHH that is not what you need to do (from your error log)
[15:46] <GHH> bazhang, so?
[15:46] <Maro__> Hey, does anyone know a good forum post/page explaining how to get two video cards to work? I haven't been able to find anything useful on ubuntuforums...
[15:46] <littlepenguin> maro are they in sli mode?
[15:46] <erUSUL> Maro__: what graphic card?
[15:46] <bazhang> GHH, so extract the .deb then right click, not what you were trying in your error log
[15:46] <Maro__> No
[15:46] <Maro__> They are... (hold on, checking box)
[15:46] <Maro__> its a brand new system
[15:47] <Maro__> Asus EN8400GS Silent
[15:47] <Maro__> nVidia thingies
[15:47] <erUSUL> Maro__: system>admin...>hardware drivers
[15:47] <Maro__> Done that, got the proprietary drivers
[15:47] <Maro__> they're both showing in lspci
[15:47] <erUSUL> Maro__: and the problem is?
[15:48] <Maro__> well admin-> monitors only detects one monitor
[15:48] <pyrophelia> has anybody played with ceph yet?
[15:48] <Maro__> whereas each video card has a monitor plugged in ;)
[15:48] <erUSUL> Maro__: with nvidia you have to use nvidia-settings. run in a terminal « gksudo nvidia-settings & »
[15:48] <Maro__> ah, thanks
[15:49] <erUSUL> Maro__: there is button to save the config to the xorg file use it when you are done
[15:49] <Maro__> Yeah, I think I need to do a reboot for it to work but Ubuntu is downloading all the updates still
[15:49] <Maro__> guess I'll find out in ~20min
[15:50] <jsifssljfeilsn> Hello everyone!
[15:50] <Diken> hello guys, i m looking for little help, i want to run fuser (command) with php to check somefiles if they are in use or not. but i can't run it because of permissions, i tried almost everything to make it possible so far but i failed badly,  any help ? please !
[15:50] <Cyanide> i have a problem with iptables and samba this is my iptable script http://pastebin.com/3aVrRN81 i don't know the error
[15:50] <erUSUL> Diken: "sudo fuser /path/to/file" ?
[15:51] <Diken> yes but i want to run it without sudo in php
[15:53] <hfmp> firefox quits after putting username and password in ftp dialog
[15:53] <hfmp> what changes to .conf file?
[15:53] <ilovefairuz> Diken: what error do you get? your php installation could be running in a restricted/safe mode
[15:53] <jwuming> hello guys!
[15:53] <GHH> bazhang, sorry again error
[15:53] <gfi> Hello Y'all, I have a problem with ANY theme during new folder creation.  New folders always have a 'temporary' icon and never get the actual folder image.  Refresh/Reboot/etc doesnt seem  to solve it.. any pointers? TIA (http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/0np607ei/Selection_001.png)
[15:53] <glebihan> hfmp: could you provide log ?
[15:53] <ilovefairuz> !hi | jwuming
[15:54] <Diken> i got nothing in variable, null :(
[15:54] <Diken> and safe mod is off
[15:54] <glebihan> Diken: sorry, just joining, what do you want to run ?
[15:54] <GHH> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/487835/
[15:54] <Diken> Diken> hello guys, i m looking for little help, i want to run fuser (command) with php to check somefiles if they are in use or not. but i can't run it because of permissions, i tried almost everything to make it possible so far but i failed badly,  any help ? please !
 pls test it for me
[15:54] <CyL> Hi, I believe that maybe ubuntu's grep is broken, since I'm searching for a file with "piper" as a substring of it's name, and I don't want to see the permission denied messages (negada in my local language), so I'm using the following syntax: find -iname *piper* |grep --invert-match negada What happens is that I only get the lines with the word negada displayed in my terminal
[15:55] <bazhang> GHH, you never installed the driver
[15:55] <glebihan> Diken: is it on a web server ?
[15:55] <ilovefairuz> hfmp: what are you trying to test?
[15:55] <Diken> yes
[15:55] <glebihan> Diken: apache ?
[15:55] <Diken> lighty
[15:55] <bazhang> GHH, try with the upstart command to restart cups by the way
[15:55] <ilovefairuz> !who | Diken
[15:55] <bazhang> !upstart > GHH
[15:56] <ilovefairuz> Diken: pastebin the code
[15:56] <Pici> CyL: Its not broken, those messages are going out on stderr, not stdout, which is what grep filters on, this will suppress stderr: find -iname "*piper*" 2> /dev/null
[15:57] <glebihan> Diken: do you know the user used by the server ?
[15:57] <CyL> Pici: I see... How come I haven't thought about that before? stdout and stderr are both ampped to the same terminal... thanks very much for your enlightement
[15:58] <Diken> glebihan : yes its www-data
[15:58] <glebihan> Diken: have you tried adding this user to the group of the files you're checking ?
[15:58] <Diken> glebihan : nope
[15:59] <glebihan> Diken: You should give it a try
[15:59] <Diken> glebihan: wait let me try it
[15:59] <CyL> Pici: I guess I'm not okay today, the file I was looking for was on my desktop :)
[15:59] <Pici> CyL: Hehe :)
[16:00] <phetips> tricky things those desktops
[16:00] <BluesKaj> CyL, seek and ye shall find :)
[16:00] <lenin> hey guys.. Monotoko :  My problem was RESOLVED. Thanks to this link... http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/fix-symbol-grubputs-not-found-when.html
[16:01] <lenin> i am the guy with the 'ubuntu' username before with the 'grub_puts' error
[16:01] <lenin> :)
[16:01] <velociostrich> is there a good graphical cpu monitor (kinda like xload) that's not an applet?
[16:02] <jwuming> I have a question: anybody knows what do dpkg repair  speed depend on? I have a dpkg interrupted, and I run 'dpkg --configure -a',and it is extremely slow
[16:02] <CyL> BluesKaj: lol... may I should stop doin' what I'm doing right now...
[16:02] <velociostrich> jwuming: what are your system specs? hd and cpu wise
[16:04] <jwuming> ubuntu +intel CPU 2.6G
[16:04] <velociostrich> jwuming: well at 2.6GHz it should run fine, idk why it would be so slow
[16:04] <glebihan> velociostrich: gnome-system-monitor ?
[16:05] <GHH> bazhang, please see the screen shot(saying already installed):     http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7839/snapshot6x.png
[16:05] <velociostrich> glebihan: no, something that's stand-alone, like xload is
[16:05] <ilovefairuz> jwuming: pastebin the output
[16:05] <velociostrich> glebihan: that I could embed into my FvwmPanel
[16:05] <bazhang> GHH, and you restarted cups with what command?
[16:05] <gobo> lol
[16:05] <bazhang> gobo, ?
[16:06] <GHH> bazhang,sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[16:06] <Diken> glebihan: output is still null, after adding www-data to file to file owner user group
[16:06] <shadeofgrey> hey do macbookpros (intel) still have SMC and heat issues?
[16:06] <glebihan> Diken: Could you pastebin your code as suggested ?
[16:06] <jwuming> do it depend on net speed? I have a bad network
[16:06] <velociostrich> glebihan: I might just write something using a combination of bash and gnuplot... that would be interesting
[16:07] <gobo> i just need 1mbps of internet acess
[16:07] <shadeofgrey> i wqas told by a friend that works for msac that because ubuntu doesnt handle smc properly the system will overheat and kill the logic boatf
[16:07] <Diken> glebihan: http://pastebin.ca/1931817 here's it
[16:07] <Pici> velociostrich: conky?
[16:07] <bazhang> gobo, contact your isp?
[16:08] <velociostrich> Pici: oooh that looks interesting, thanks
[16:08] <gobo> i did
[16:08] <gobo> they don't want me to downgrade
[16:08] <bazhang> gobo, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[16:08] <glebihan> velociostrich: yes, should work. I don't know about any other program that would do what you need
[16:08] <_eXeCuTeR> where's the microphone setup in ubuntu?
[16:08] <glebihan> Diken: Trying something, coming back
[16:08] <gobo> bazhang: i am not talking with you
[16:09] <gobo> stop
[16:09] <bazhang> gobo, this is an Ubuntu support channel only.
[16:09] <gobo> i know
[16:09] <gobo> and you interrupt me in each sentense
[16:10] <GHH> bazhang, I reinstalled the cups but a error when installing.
[16:10] <Monotoko> gobo..its IRC..it happens
[16:10] <jwuming> ilovefairuz: Saving to: `./adobe-flashplugin_10.1.82.76.orig.tar.gz'
[16:10] <jwuming>      0K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  1% 3.25K 24m13s
[16:10] <jwuming>     50K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  2%  294  2h27m
[16:10] <jwuming>    100K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  3%  682  2h15m
[16:10] <jwuming>    150K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  4%  916  2h2m
[16:10] <jwuming>    200K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........  5%  911  1h53m
[16:10] <FloodBot3> jwuming: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <glebihan> Diken: It works for me
[16:10] <_L30_> i was trying to install skipfish and when i type cd skipfish i get a error , bash: permission denied
[16:10] <GHH> bazhang, Please see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487844/
[16:10] <Diken> :-s
[16:11] <ilovefairuz> jwuming: that's normal, it's download flash player
[16:11] <glebihan> Diken: when you say output is null, do you get an empty array or nothing at all ?
[16:11] <kishon> how can I increase the size of the mounted filesystem??
[16:11] <Diken> glebihan: yes its empty array
[16:11] <velociostrich> anyone know just how hot-swappable SATA is? that is, if I have a HD in my system that's not mounted, can I just unplug and remove it or not?
[16:11] <_eXeCuTeR> anyone knows where the microphone set up is?
[16:11] <glebihan> Diken: well, this just means that the file is not in use
[16:11] <GHH> bazhang, Child exited with status 1! failed
[16:11] <SuperMiguel> can macbooks boot to a HD with ubuntu installed on it?
[16:11] <kishon1> how can i increase the size of the mounted file system??
[16:12] <Monotoko> kishon1, you cant
[16:12] <Monotoko> you need to unmount it
[16:12] <zzzed> eXeCuTer, alsamixergui, gamix ...
[16:12] <oCean_> kishon1: resize2fs
[16:12] <glebihan> Diken: to check it, open a python command-line, and type "f=open('testfile.txt')", then reload your page
[16:12] <Diken> glebihan: wait let me try it again
[16:12] <_L30_> ask | Monotoko i was trying to install skipfish and when i type cd skipfish i get a error , bash: permission denied
[16:12] <jwuming> maybe I should just wait ,Thanks
[16:13] <oCean_> _L30_: so, have you checked the permissions on the directory?
[16:13] <Monotoko> _L30_, who owns the folder?
[16:13] <GHH> bazhang, ?
[16:13] <_L30_> Monotoko: its a general folder
[16:13] <_L30_> got it from web extracted and trying to cd into that
[16:13] <Monotoko> use: ls -la while your in the parent directory
[16:14] <oCean_> _L30_: "ls -ald skipfish" should list the ownership/permissions on that folder
[16:14] <Monotoko> the second column should tell you who owns it
[16:14] <Monotoko> oCean_, ...damn i need to remember that command :P
[16:15] <_L30_> oCean_: drwxr-x--- 4 59933 5000 4096 2010-03-20 00:43 skipfish
[16:15] <oCean_> _L30_: ownership problem: it's set to owner/group that does not exist on your system
[16:15] <Diken> glebihan: i am still geting empty array, but the same php works with admin rights
[16:15] <bazhang> GHH, cups was not installed already? what command did you use to restart it?
[16:15] <_L30_> so how do i edit that to work on my system?
[16:16] <oCean_> _L30_: "sudo chown yourusername:yourgroupname skipfish"
[16:16] <shadeofgrey> can somebody tell me if the smc heat issues in edgy have been fixed in the currenrt build?
[16:16] <Diken> glebihan: php code works with admin rights, but not with www-data
[16:16] <GHH> the command to restart :sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[16:16] <_L30_> thanks oCean_ :)
[16:16] <oCean_> _L30_: no problem
[16:16] <GHH> bazhang, but reinstalled but the same error
[16:17] <berlin_> Hi I have a partition on my hard drive for windows and Ubuntu, but I want to update my Ubuntu distribution, so how do I do that without erasing windows?
[16:17] <_L30_> oCean_: a n00b here ;(
[16:18] <oCean_> !permissions > _L30_ read the bot's private message on how to work with ownership/permissions
[16:18] <GHH> bazhang, the error :Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited with status 1! failed
[16:18] <bazhang> GHH, not sure about that error sorry
[16:18] <_L30_> ok
[16:19] <GHH> bazhang, ok and thanks and what should i do?
[16:19] <oCean_> GHH: check the error_log file in /var/log/cups/ It might have useful information
[16:19] <tavasti> I try to install webalizer to ubuntu 8.04, but seems like repository is bit broken, or at least fi.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:19] <jianfei> hi, I was just wondering what version is the latest Ubuntu?
[16:19] <tavasti> E: Failed to fetch http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/db4.5/libdb4.5_4.5.20-11_i386.deb: 404 Not Found
[16:20] <bazhang> jianfei, 10.04
[16:20] <DJones> jianfei: Current version if 10.04
[16:20] <jianfei> thank you
[16:20] <glebihan> Diken: this has surely something to do with file ownership
[16:21] <lubuntu_userrr> Why the ubuntu font is not included into 10.10 Beta 1?
[16:21] <glebihan> Diken: does the folder containing the "testfile.txt" have the same owner as the file itself ?
[16:21] <oCean_> lubuntu_userrr: 10.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1
[16:21] <Diken> yes
[16:21] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that lubuntu_userrr
[16:21] <Sary> Guys , if someone have like 3 HDD , planning to install Ubuntu on lets say the HD F .. when running the Live-Cd / What should he chose from the installation options !
[16:21] <undecim> speaking of fonts... Did the font for the new ubuntu title ever get finished?
[16:21] <kishon> i have .bin file which I mount as a file system using mount -t ext2 -o loop rd-ext2 mountpoint/ for which i want to increase the size..
[16:22] <lubuntu_userrr> undecim: It still needs to be finished for hebrew and so...
[16:22] <Guest64102> can anyone tell me why the movie player and the rythmnbox music player request and search for the windows audio codec, even AFTER I've installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras codecs?
[16:22] <undecim> lubuntu_userrr: Are the latin letters done then?
[16:22] <th0r> Guest64102: you probably need w32codecs
[16:23] <undecim> kishon: I think if you append zeros to the end, you can use a command to resize the filesystem itself
[16:23] <lubuntu_userrr> undecim: i tested it and they were ok - incl bold, italic, undrlnd. Only a few glitches were fixed during the testing cycle.
[16:23] <oCean_> !pm | kishon
[16:23] <undecim> lubuntu_userrr: Sweet. ty
[16:24] <Monotoko> hmmm
[16:24] <GHH> bazhang, cups started.... what is next please?
[16:24] <Monotoko> my screen crashed...ssh'd in and rebooted
[16:24] <lubuntu> hali
[16:24] <marekw2143> what is difference between /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib?
[16:25] <kishon1> i have .bin file which I mount as a file system using mount -t ext2 -o loop rd-ext2 mountpoint/ for which i want to increase the size..
[16:25] <sipior> marekw2143: /usr/local is intended for the installation of software outside the purview of the package management system.
[16:25] <kishon1> how do i increase it;s size
[16:26] <undecim> kishon1: First, you need to increase the size of the file by adding 0s to the end, then use resize2fs.
[16:26] <undecim> kishon1: how much bigger do you want to make it?
[16:26] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> kishon1: or create a new bin file with the desired size, mkfs it, loop mount and copy your files
[16:26] <undecim> Cmdr_W_T_Riker, kishon1: That could take a while, depending on the size of the file.
[16:27] <marekw2143> sipior: so when I would like to create custom shared library and if I will then copy it by hand to /usr/lib, will package manager complain?
[16:27] <kishon1> the current size is 16 MB, I want to make it to 24MB
[16:27] <Guest64102> th0r and others, where do I find the w32codecs?
[16:27] <sipior> marekw2143: no it won't, but it's not considered good practise
[16:27] <bazhang> Guest64102, medibuntu.org
[16:27] <kishon1> is there any utility to append 0's to a bin file directly
[16:27] <undecim> kishon1: Yeah probably quickest to just create a new file. You know how to make one yourself or you need instructions?
[16:27] <kishon1> i need instructions..
[16:28] <undecim> kishon1: Alright. Open a terminal
[16:28] <kishon1> yeah..
[16:28] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> kishon1: you could probably do that with dd, skip 16M and write 8 MB more zero's from /dev/zero
[16:28] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> kishon1: but nevermind that, do follow undecim's instructions
[16:28] <sipior> marekw2143: it's best to keep the "system-maintained" and user-installed software separate, to prevent confusion and unfortunate collisions between the two ecosystems.
[16:29] <undecim> kishon1: type "dd if=/dev/zero of=newe2image.bin bs=1024 count=24578"
[16:29] <kishon1> ok Riker... Thanks anyways :)
[16:29] <marekw2143> sipior: what do you mean by "user-installed"? when I'll download e.g. python 3.1 from internet and then install it, it should go to /usr/local/lib ?
[16:29] <sipior> marekw2143: yes.
[16:30] <sipior> marekw2143: unless you grabbed it through the package-management system.
[16:30] <undecim> kishon1: that will give you a blank 24MB file... After that's done we format it with mke2fs using "mke2fs newe2image.bin"
[16:30] <Seven> Hi , i have an acer aspire one with ssd 8gb installed on Ubuntu 10.4 netbook remix was working fine till i reboot and got this msg :Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0;0)   anyone know what i can do ?
[16:30] <cgs_bob> hello all.  I have a strange problem.  when I use the keypad, the mouse pointer moves.  btw, the numlock key is off.  anyone knows what is going on?
[16:30] <marekw2143> sipior: and from what the system knows where to look for libraries? any system variable?
[16:30] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> cgs_bob: try pressing Ctrl-shift-numlock
[16:31] <undecim> kishon1: When the formatting is done, you can mount both the new image file, and the old one, and transfer the files to the new one
[16:31] <sipior> marekw2143: yep. have a look at the ld.so man page
[16:31] <cgs_bob> Cmdr_W_T_Riker: that seems to work.  what does that key combo do?
[16:31] <marekw2143> sipior: ok, I'll, thanks !
[16:32] <jordo2323> Does anyone know how to fix the updating/streaming issue in Gwibber?  Has this been solved yet?
[16:32] <computer_> hello?
[16:33] <computer_> any1 here>
[16:33] <computer_> ?
[16:33] <Maro__> So I have two working monitors now, one on each video card...but they're not using twinview like I've used before- is it possible to enable twinview with 2 different video cards? I Like to be able to drag windows from one monitor to the other...
[16:33] <glebihan> !ask | computer
[16:33] <computer_> can some1 please help me?
[16:33] <computer_> how do i download things on ubuntu
[16:33] <undecim> computer_: What do you want to download?
[16:33] <pipegeek> curl
[16:33] <GHH> bazhang, done ... now need to out a page
[16:34] <computer_> when it says save file what do i save to
[16:34] <sjm> computer_, what do you mean by "download"?
[16:34] <glebihan> computer_: is it with firefox ?
[16:34] <tehowe> computer_: Using Transmission if it's a torrent you're looking at.
[16:34] <Seven> does anyone know how to fix this error on Ubuntu : Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block ?!?!?!
[16:34] <undecim> computer_: Just choose a place in your home folder or the desktop. Anywhere is fine
[16:34] <computer_> i want to download a game "armagetron advanced"
[16:34] <computer_> can you help me
[16:34] <Maro__> That's in Ubuntu Software Centre, under the main menu
[16:35] <Maro__> just click install and it will install ;)
[16:35] <pipegeek> computer_: you can just do: "sudo apt-get install armagetronad"
[16:35] <Leolo_3> Hello , I have a cups problem.  I'm printing from an archaic system via cups-lpd.  I am getting Unable to convert file 0 to printable format!
[16:35] <Maro__> Does anyone know if its possible to enable twinview when there are two different video cards? The option is greyed out in nVidia settings.
[16:35] <undecim> computer_: Yes, just like Maro said. Go to Maine Menu -> Ubuntu Software Center, and find the game there. It's much easier than downloading and installing from a web site
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> Maro__:  with 2 differnt Nvidia cards - ive done it befor..
[16:36] <Leolo_3> mind you, I also see File of type application/vnd.cups-raw queued by "root".   Which to me means it should Just Bloody Print It!
[16:36] <Leolo_3> HELP
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> Maro__:  but  You can have issues if the 2 nvidia cards need different driver versions
[16:36] <Maro__> Dr_Willis: do you know how? All I seem to be able to do is "seperate X screen"
[16:36] <Maro__> Dr_Willis: they're the same identical video card
[16:36] <Leolo_3> printing locally (ie cal | lp -o raw -d serial ) works
[16:36] <Maro__> and identical monitors too, actually
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> Maro__:  i just used the nvidia settings tool and it worked for me.  One was an 8800gtsxxx other was some onboard nvidia card.
[16:37] <GHH> bazhang, Thanks .... I love Ubuntu , I respect Ubuntu community
[16:37] <kishon1> i'm always getting the error "Not enough space to build proposed filesystem while setting up superblock"
[16:37] <Maro__> Gah. Why won't this work :(
[16:37] <kishon1> I get that error when i run mke2fs command
[16:37] <Maro__> Would "ENable Xinerama" help? :) I haven;t seen that button before...
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> Maro__:  twinview is xinerama on steroids. see if xinerama works..
[16:37] <Maro__> Ah, thanks
[16:38] <Maro__> Need to reboot to check, will be right back, thanks :)
[16:38] <computer_> when i go to save the game it wantgs me to save it to a file what file should i save it to?
[16:38] <undecim> kishon1: Ah, hold on.. I Missed the rd-ext2 part... gimme a minute to check that out. I'm not sure what that's for.
[16:39] <GHH> Good Luck ubuntu!
[16:39] <GHH> and many much thanks to bazhang
[16:40] <bazhang> computer_, sudo apt-get install armagetronad
[16:40] <bazhang> computer_, dont download from outside sources if possible
[16:40] <kisuke> ok, anyone know of any tools to turn an install into a live USB?
[16:40] <tracy69> does anyone know if nova-s usb2 will ever work in ubuntu ?
[16:41] <kalle_> any idea why brasero wont burn dvd-ram discs ?
[16:41] <undecim> kishon1: Try using "mke2fs -m0 newe2image.bin"?
[16:41] <bazhang> kisuke, unetbootin
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> kalle_:  theres been issues with the default burning app in the past. Many people switch to other apps like k3b or other gnome apps.
[16:42] <kisuke> kalle_: does your drive support burning DVD-RAM?
[16:42] <bazhang> kisuke, assuming you mean an iso
[16:42] <kishon1> mke2fs -m0 also gives the same error :(
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> I cant even recall ever owning a DVD-Ram disk. Some of my drives support it.. :)
[16:42] <kisuke> bazhang: i want to turn an install into a live USB, as in its inatalled, and i have packages i want to keep
[16:42] <kalle_> hm not sure, its brand new, ill try k3b if thats better
[16:42] <Madwill> is this possible that httpd.conf file is totally empty ?
[16:42] <Madwill> or do i have the wrong file
[16:43] <bazhang> kisuke, you want to create a clone, turn that to iso and load to live usb?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Madwill:  or you typoed the path to the file
[16:43] <Maro__> Okay, Xinerama worked I think, but strangely now all the icons in my notificaton area (networking, xchat etc) have white/grey backgrounds rather than the colour of the panel which is the radiance standard...any ideas?
[16:43] <Maro__> I've removed the notification area and re-loaded it, also reset the appearance...no joy
[16:43] <Maro__> looks a bit fugly :P
[16:43] <Madwill> hummm
[16:43] <kisuke> bazhang: i can g oto an iso and turn thtat to a live USB
[16:44] <bazhang> kisuke, not sure if clonezilla can do that (ie clone to iso)
[16:44] <samba_ck> can someone please tell me if i can use on some software TOR ? I mean i want to use TOR just the program which i want. Not on all OS . Is that possible ?
[16:44] <kalle_> howto make an image with the lates xubuntu and add all the apt-cache packages to it ?
[16:44] <computer_> can some1 help me download a game
[16:44] <computer_> can some1 message me nd help me download a game
[16:44] <kishon1> before i get not enough space error I get "myalsa.bin is not a block special device.
[16:44] <kishon1> Proceed anyway? (y,n) y"
[16:44] <bazhang> computer_, yes.
[16:44] <undecim> kishon1: can you run dumpe2fs on the old disk so I can see what parameters it was created with?
[16:44] <kisuke> bazhang: ill look at it, um is remastersys in any of the repos?
[16:44] <bazhang> computer_, sudo apt-get install armagetronad
[16:45] <Maro__> Dr_Willis, any idea about why the icons might have a whacky background to them?
[16:45] <computer_> can some1 message me and help me download a game
[16:45] <bazhang> computer_, dont download that from outside source, but install from repo
[16:45] <undecim> kishon1: post the output of dumpe2fs to pastebin and paste the link here
[16:45] <bazhang> computer_, I just told you
[16:45] <bazhang> !remaster | kisuke
[16:45] <kisuke> bazhang: thanks
[16:46]  * dddw gotta run for train
[16:46]  * dddw <<<
[16:46] <kishon1> http://pastebin.com/qjsR58zS
[16:46] <bazhang> computer_, open a terminal and paste this in:   sudo apt-get install armagetronad
[16:47] <kalle_> if i install kde games mostly they dont show up in my menus, why ? guess i use gnome desktop
[16:47] <computer_> bazhang i did that now what
[16:47] <computer_> i did it now how do i open
[16:47] <bazhang> computer_, put in your user password
[16:48] <computer_> i did
[16:48] <bazhang> computer_, try alt f2 armagetronad
[16:48] <computer_> k
[16:48] <undecim> kishon1: Double check the dd command. Make sure you got the numbers right, because 24MB should be enough to create the fs with default parameters.
[16:49] <undecim> kishon1: I see nothing odd about the params on the 16mb file
[16:49] <kishon1> used this command "dd if=/dev/zero of=myalsa.bin bs=1k count=24"
[16:50] <Monotoko> o.o your writing zero?
[16:50] <jac0b> jacob
[16:50] <undecim> kishon1: that command would make it 24 KB, not 24 MB
[16:50] <computer_> bazhard thxs so much!!
[16:50] <undecim> kishon1: Change the 1k to 1M and try again
[16:50] <computer_> if i want to open it from now on where can i find it?
[16:51] <kishon1> oops..sorry... it worked..
[16:51] <bazhang> computer_, please install from package manager when possible and have a read of the manual
[16:51] <bazhang> !manual | computer_
[16:51] <jac0b> hai gyes
[16:51] <kalle_> try applications > games computer
[16:51] <samba_ck> bazhard i came back. i was on the offtopic room.. i asked about scroogle.
[16:51] <bazhang> computer_, look in applications menu-->games
[16:51] <samba_ck> bazhard i want to ask you about TOR project ... do i?
[16:53] <undecim> kishon1: All good then?
[16:53] <kishon1> wait a min pls..
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Hi
[16:53] <undecim> kishon1: ok
[16:56] <jac0b> hai freinds i need a exploit but i cant founde it
[16:56] <jac0b> any 1 for help
[16:56] <kisuke> was it ati no nvidia that has the better linux drivers?
[16:56] <kisuke> or*
[16:56] <jac0b> no 1
[16:56] <undecim> kisuke: It's kind of debatable nowadays
[16:57] <barisubuntu> jac0b use metasploit
[16:57] <kisuke> undecim: ah ty
[16:57] <dajhorn> kisuke: For legacy hardware, Nvidia has been better.
[16:57] <barisubuntu> it have 275 expolits
[16:57] <undecim> kisuke: Previously it was NV, but they've been getting worse, and ATI has been getting better...
[16:57] <jac0b> ya i now i  using back track
[16:57] <kisuke> dajhorn: ty
[16:57] <jac0b> and metsploite
[16:57] <lxsys> hi all, anything I can use other than Mplayer and mythtv to receive DVB-S broadcasts on my pc?
[16:57] <undecim> kisuke: AFAIK, ATI still drops support for old cards though.
[16:58] <kisuke> undecim: nice to know
[16:58] <dominicdinada> !arp
[16:58] <dajhorn> kisuke: You can still buy new GeForce 9000 PCI cards that are supported by nvidia-current.  These are great for adding to old computers.
[16:58] <bastidrazor> jac0b: if you're using backtrack you should be asking for help in #backtrack-linux
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> and i hear the 'ATI' name is to be dropped  soon also
[16:58] <kisuke> what is the lighestest desktop enviroment in *buntu atm?
[16:59] <androidbruce|lap> hey guys i have a vps and i am trying to install and xserver but when i try apt-get install xserver it tells me dependencies are missing
[16:59] <kishon1> thanks all... got it working :)
[16:59] <popey> kisuke: lxde or openbox I suspect
[16:59] <yaaar> anybody know why I'd be unable to load PIX device manager 3.0 from ubuntu/firefox? I set it to allow popups, and it opens the "Please do not close this" window. I get the java prompts asking whether to trust it and I say yes...then nothing happens. PDM=3.0(4), PIX=6.3(5) on a 501, JDK=1.6.0_20
[16:59] <Maro__> Hmm, seems Xinerama causes icons to lose their transparency. Is there a known fix to this?
[16:59] <undecim> Dr_Willis: yup. Going to be AMD now, just like their CPU manufacturing overlords.
[16:59] <popey> kisuke: depends how functional you want it :)
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> undecim:  one less annoying sticker on laptops :)
[17:00] <dominicdinada> !network
[17:00] <undecim> Dr_Willis: Speaking of stickers, AMD says their going to be using stickers that are easier to remove.
[17:00] <kisuke> popey: which is the more functional?
[17:00] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis: now you only have to scratch off the windows 7/XP/Vista stickers
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> undecim:  yea - i saw some posts about that also..
[17:00] <undecim> Dr_Willis: I'd love to stay and chat about stuff I've read on slashdot, but I have to go now XD
[17:00] <popey> kisuke: try them out and see :)
[17:00] <androidbruce|lap> could anyone helpout with getting an xserver installed on ubuntu server?
[17:00] <dominicdinada> no way to flush the arp tables like in windows ?
[17:01] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, why oh why did AMD (a company i loved) purchase ATI (a company i hate) and now they're going to attach their name to it as well!  argg </OT>
[17:01] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap: Start by installing the ubuntu-desktop package.
[17:01] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: ati + amd is a move to 1 up intel
[17:02] <Sary> Guys , how to install Ubuntu on a 2 partition !
[17:02] <androidbruce|lap> dajhorn, says im missing a long list of dependencies
[17:02] <dajhorn> ZykoticK9: AMD has already gutted several AMD offices and a lot of their culture.  Given the the AMD personality will dominate, Ubuntu drivers for AMD are likely to improve.
[17:02] <ke_> how do i change the keyboard setup on a macbook so that function keys work without having to press fn?
[17:02] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap: Install them all.  The full X11 stack is large.
[17:03] <ke_> in the default setup, for example, f4 -> volume down - i want it to be f4
[17:03] <Coronade> ffffuuuuuuuu
[17:03] <androidbruce|lap> dajhorn, how do i go about installing them all?
[17:03] <jakob__> moin
[17:03] <Slart> dominicdinada: tried "ip neighbour flush all" ?
[17:03] <dajhorn> !manual | androidbruce|lap
[17:03] <sebsebseb> Sary: on a 2 partition?
[17:04] <MacCarburetor> Rhythmbox crashes every time i do right click > properties on a song
[17:04] <sebsebseb> Slart: On to a partition you mean?  Also I thought you already had an install, because your in that other channel as well.
[17:04] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap: `apt-get install ubuntu-desktop` and push enter a bunch of times.
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce|lap, just an FYI for next time, but it's much easier to add services to the desktop version then add X/Gnome/KDE/etc. to the server version
[17:04] <sebsebseb> Sary: ^
[17:04] <sebsebseb> Slart: wrong one
[17:04] <Sary> sebsebseb, he got , Windows on C .. want to install ubuntu on F
[17:04] <lxsys> what's the easist app for receiving DVB-S sattellite broadcasts without the hassle of configuring a whole mythtv, as mythtv is overkill.
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Sary: who?
[17:05] <Slart> sebsebseb: no worries
[17:05] <lxsys> *?
[17:05] <Sary> sebsebseb, a Friend
[17:05] <MacCarburetor> Rhythmbox crashes a lot!
[17:05] <androidbruce|lap> ZykoticK9, yes but my vps came with ubuntu server
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Sary: right, and you don't know how to dual boot Ubuntu?
[17:05] <androidbruce|lap> and not ubuntu desktop
[17:05] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce|lap, gotcha vps, makes more sense ;)
[17:05] <Sary> sebsebseb,  sure i do ,
[17:06] <androidbruce|lap> dajhorn, i can't press enter a bunch of times. this is the error i get. E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[17:06] <sebsebseb> Sary: to install on F well,  just get any data off it backed up first, delete the partition,  make a Linux partition there, and install
[17:06] <MacCarburetor> it it because i have only 1.66 ghz processer speed?
[17:06] <dajhorn> ZykoticK9: Are you installing from the Ubuntu repositories, or are you installing 3rd party software?  Provide more information.
[17:06] <sebsebseb> Sary: or you could split the space up,  so  /  /home and swap for example
[17:06] <ZykoticK9> dajhorn, wrong nic - it's not me as i haven't asked anything ;)
[17:07] <androidbruce|lap> that was directed to me dajhorn wasn't it?
[17:07] <androidbruce|lap> im trying to install from the Ubuntu repositories
[17:07] <dajhorn> ZykoticK9, androidbruce|lap:  yes, sorry.  The | in your nick is confusing my tab completion.
[17:07] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: no probably not
[17:07] <Sary> sebsebseb, he got allot of free space .. lemme check
[17:07] <MacCarburetor> now it's not even starting properly
[17:08] <androidbruce|lap> i took the /etc/apt/sources.list from my desktop and cp'd it to my vps
[17:08] <MacCarburetor> it crashes almost as soon as it starts
[17:08] <androidbruce|lap> but im not so sure that works b/c the vps is a diff version of ubuntu
[17:08] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: Which version of Ubuntu?
[17:08] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce|lap, did you keep a backup of the vps's sources.list?
[17:08] <MacCarburetor> 10.4
[17:08] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: how new is the install?
[17:08] <androidbruce|lap> ZykoticK9, i never removed anything from the vps's
[17:08] <androidbruce|lap> just added
[17:08] <MacCarburetor> just instaled about 20 mins ago
[17:09] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: ok, how much RAM do you have?
[17:09] <MacCarburetor> *installed
[17:09] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap:  You should revert the sources.list file, if possible, and fix your system.
[17:09] <MacCarburetor> 1GB + 512mb
[17:09] <tracy69> does anyone know if nova-s usb2 will ever work in ubuntu ?
[17:09] <MacCarburetor> (added the 1GB today)
[17:09] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: Rythombox useually works, but this isn't Windows, so there are plenty of alternative players as well
[17:09] <Squarism> is there "osx like expose" function in gnome? Or can it be added somewhay?
[17:09] <Squarism> some way
[17:09] <androidbruce|lap> dajhorn, the sources list never had anything in it. my apt-get has been missing dependencies the entire time i've had the vps
[17:10] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap: Which version of Ubuntu is in the VPS?
[17:10] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: removing Rthombox and re installing might help, but it will have user data stored some where in /home I guess, and without that removed,  you would probably  have the same problem
[17:10] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce|lap, i don't think using the sources from a desktop version on your vps is a good idea - you should have added the repo's properly.  good luck man (my recommendation would be to get the sources.list to default and slowly add to it as required)
[17:10] <Slart> Squarism: I think compiz has somethin similar, should be installed by default but you might need to install compizconfig-settingsmanager
[17:10] <androidbruce|lap> dajhorn, how do i find the version via ssh again
[17:10] <Slart> !ccsm | Squarism
[17:10] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap: Remember to check the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for configuration stubs too.
[17:11] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap:  `lsb_release -a`
[17:11] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce|lap, if you sources.list was really empty - then that is certainly a problem/issue!
[17:11] <magnetron> Hi, i have a MCE remote control, the IR receiver is integrated with my memory card reader front panel. How do i use this in lirc?
[17:11] <androidbruce|lap> dajhorn, it says i have 10.04
[17:12] <progre55> hey guys, I need to gzip a huge file and pass it over to another server. But I dont have enough space on my current server for the gzipped file. How can I pipe the output of "tar -czf file.tar.gz file" into scp?
[17:12] <androidbruce|lap> ZykoticK9, yeah im not sure what's going oin
[17:12] <Squarism> Slart, thanx man
[17:12] <Slart> Squarism: you're welcome
[17:12] <dajhorn> androidbruce|lap: Put this in your sources.list file:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted universe multiverse
[17:13] <jac0b> help i hier gues
[17:13] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce|lap, after dajhorn's change above try "sudo apt-get update"
[17:13] <mrp> how do i get a version of a package from maverick into lucid?
[17:13] <mrp> eg, deluge
[17:14] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: Banshee is rather nice alternative really, (,but whats used to make it Mono, isn't exactly a good thing for Desktop Linux, but that's offtopic)
[17:14] <sanna_> I got confused looking at the irc-list of channels.. where do I talk about 10.10?
[17:14] <tracy69> does anyone know if nova-s usb2 will ever work in ubuntu ?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  i seem to recall seeing examples of that on some 'ssh/scp tips/tricks site' i saw at delicious.com under peoples ssh tags yesterday
[17:14] <ZykoticK9> mrp, see if the version you want is in a PPA
[17:14] <Slart> mrp: download it from packages.ubuntu.com and just double click it.. you might end up upgrading your entire system though, because of dependencies
[17:14] <Friar_Tuckman> I just setup rsa key authentication for my server at home for ssh. I now have to change by connect to server bookmarks to use a key instead of a password. How can I do this?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> tracy69:  i wonder if anyone in here even knows what that is.
[17:14] <ZykoticK9> !ppa | mrp
[17:14] <tracy69> tv box !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:14] <mrp> ZykoticK9: PPA is not update to date :(
[17:14] <magnetron> progre55: the regular ssh command supports pipes. i don't the correct switches for tar but something like "cat file.tar.gz | ssh user@host tar -cfz -"
[17:14] <progre55> Dr_Willis: can you please recall that? )
[17:15] <progre55> magnetron: but I need it for scp, not just ssh..
[17:15] <magnetron> tracy69: maybe the mythbuntu people will be able to help you
[17:15] <magnetron> progre55: fine, but you can only pipe if you use ssh.
[17:15] <progre55> magnetron: or can I copy a file using just ssh piping?
[17:15] <magnetron> progre55: exactly.
[17:16] <androidbruce|lap> says some duplicate entries exist
[17:16] <ZykoticK9> mrp, you can just try the deb from maverick on your lucid - but there will probably be dependecy issues (thus it's not really recommended/supported), ubuntu isn't designed to be running the !latest of everything ;)  good luck though
[17:16] <progre55> magnetron: hmm.. thanks, I'll dig into that )
[17:16] <tracy69> magnetron i dont think they will help there is no people and they care about mythbuntu not about drivers
[17:17] <tracy69> is there any way to use driver designed fro windows in ubuntu ?
[17:17] <MrWise> I've setup rsa keys so that I can ssh a server without password prompt, but i can't do git push to the server without being prompted for password, any idea how to solve this?
[17:17] <magnetron> Hi, i have a MCE remote control, the IR receiver is integrated with my memory card reader front panel. How do i use this in lirc? i don't know if it has a device no in /dev/input/
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  was one of ones on the first page of the ssh tutorial links . ssh faq, or ssh tips, or somthing like that
[17:18] <sebsebseb> tracy69: no, except for wireless
[17:18] <dajhorn> mrp:  Look at the 'prevu' package.  It will download and compile packages from Maverick for Lucid and minimize the backport.
[17:18] <magnetron> tracy69: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-S_Plus_PCI
[17:18] <progre55> Dr_Willis: let me open delicious )
[17:18] <timandra> coucou
[17:19] <Friar_Tuckman> can I remove a bookmarked network connection under the Places menu? I have since changed my ssh settings and they aren't connecting anymore.
[17:19] <tracy69> magnetron it is nova-s usb2
[17:19] <magnetron> MrWise: are you absolutely sure you added the ssh keys correct
[17:19] <tracy69> mean it is usb
[17:19] <tracy69> not apci
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> Friar_Tuckman:  you can delete them yes.
[17:19] <MrWise> magic_ninjai; well not absolutely sure no, but it works for ssh without any problems
[17:19] <Friar_Tuckman> Dr_Willis: thanks....how?
[17:19] <magnetron> tracy69: too bad
[17:19] <MrWise> err, magnetron*
[17:19] <MrWise> sorry
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> Friar_Tuckman:  theres some manager mennu item somewhere, or if they are in the sidebar, right click and delete
[17:20] <magnetron> MrWise: and git is set to sync via ssh and no other protocol?
[17:20] <tracy69> is there at any satellite usb card that i can buy and it work in ubuntu ?
[17:20] <tracy69> at all any ?
[17:20] <MrWise> magnetron; how do I check this? if you don't mind
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> Friar_Tuckman, i imagine the issue is actually with SSH not the bookmarks - what error are you getting.  if you reinstalled with same hostname then the entries in ~/.ssh/known_hosts are probably incorrect.
[17:21] <stetho> My employers have a linux (RHEL) based VPN server. They've issued me with a user name, password and a certificate file. At home I have an Ubuntu Server 10.04 acting as a firewall/router (and lamp and all the other stuff). I'd like to be able to create a link to the office from my home network "permanently" or at least have it connect on demand from the server. I can do the routing but what software do I need to set up the server as a VPN client?
[17:21] <magnetron> tracy69: yes, here's a list: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S_USB_Devices
[17:21] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8964546&postcount=276 tracy69
[17:21] <linux> hi every one
[17:21] <magnetron> MrWise: what command are you using for pushing/pulling to the repository?
[17:21] <tracy69> magnetron
[17:22] <tracy69> it doesnt work like that
[17:22] <MrWise> magnet; git add . -> git commit -m "comment" -> git push
[17:22] <sebsebseb> linux: hi
[17:22] <tracy69> check up this and than tell me which on
[17:22] <tracy69> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-cards/736_7123_70132_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html?sPageInfo=2_10
[17:22] <MrWise> in my RoR project folder
[17:22] <Friar_Tuckman> ZykoticK9: i just enabled rsa key authentication...I have it working through terminal, so I disabled password login. Then I did it again via terminal...I know the key is working, but my old connections are with password, and not key.
[17:23] <ZykoticK9> Friar_Tuckman, if it's only the Bookmarks - open nautilus and Bookmark menu then Edit Bookmarks
[17:23] <ajsie> is debian more secure and stable than ubuntu?
[17:23] <MacCarburetor> it says on the Rhythmbox website the latest version is 0.13.0, i have 0.12.8, how i update it? should i just uninstall the one i have and download 0.13.0 from the website? if i do that what one the ubuntu one store thingy
[17:23] <bazhang> !ot | ajsie
[17:23] <magnetron> MrWise: hmm, this is over the top of my head. but try checking what's the default location it will push to
[17:23] <magnetron> ajsie: ask in #debian
[17:23] <sebsebseb> ajsie: depends, but yeah off topic
[17:23] <linux> hi all, can some 1 help me, i have lan connection i installed vlc in one pc now i want it to be installed to all other pc via lan how to do this
[17:23] <ajsie> ubottu: you are a bot?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> ajsie:  one has to wonder how such things are even measured.   see #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:24] <Friar_Tuckman> ZykoticK9: that was exactly it. Thanks for the help!
[17:24] <ajsie> ubottu: :)
[17:24] <bazhang> ajsie, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:24] <ZykoticK9> Friar_Tuckman, glad to help
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> linux:  you can set up an apt-cacher service on one main box. and set the other machines to get packages from that box. saves download ussage
[17:24] <Felipe__> Is it safe to decrease the size of a ext4 partition without extra steps?
[17:24] <tracy69> magnetron did you take look at the web i showed to you ?
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Felipe__: probably, but if you want to be 100% sure have your data backed up first
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Felipe__: I mean yes it will probably go fine, but to be sure have any data on that partition backed up first, that you want to keep
[17:25] <jac0b> hay gues how now this exploit
[17:25] <Felipe__> Ok, thanks
[17:25] <jac0b> mod_ssl/2.2.15 OpenSSL/0.9.7a - mod_ssl 2.8.7 and lower are vulnerable to a remote buffer overflow which may allow a remote shell (difficult to exploit)
[17:25] <magnetron> tracy69: you didn't type my name on the line, so i didn't see it. but it seems like if nova-s usb is supported, but you need to follow the instructions on the linuxtv wiki
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Felipe__: your welcome
[17:25] <root_> hi all
[17:26] <magnetron> tracy69: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-S_USB
[17:26] <ZykoticK9> jac0b, "exploit" talk is generally offtopic here, unless this applies directory to YOUR Ubuntu setup.
[17:26] <magnetron> tracy69: it seems like it requires lots of manual work
[17:26] <linux> thanx, but how to do this, sorry i am new to ubuntu, can u get me any forms or guide tutorial Dr_Willis
[17:26] <ksbalaji> gdm does not show up. Please help http://pastebin.com/WJd5WWEt
[17:26] <tracy69> hehehehe nova-s usb is usb1.1 very old !!!!!    nova-s usb2 is new mean not older than 5 years
[17:27] <tracy69> nova-s usb u wont buy it
[17:27] <tracy69> no one sale it
[17:27] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, this is not Knoppix support!
[17:27] <magnetron> tracy69: maybe you could check that before you buy a TV card
[17:27] <ksbalaji> I ve chrooted to ubuntu ZykoticK9 as my karmic crashed. so I am trying to repair this.
[17:28] <tracy69> im asking now !!! what card should i buy from here http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-cards/736_7123_70132_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html?sPageInfo=2_10
[17:28] <tracy69> those are cards for sale in the UK !!!!
[17:28] <bazhang> tracy69, this is not hardware support
[17:28] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, and without this nice piece of knoppix livecd, I may not be here!
[17:28] <tracy69> which one i should buy is i want to watch satellite tv in ubuntu ?
[17:28] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, you're certainly still on the CD right now, as i could see the KNOPPIX prompt, and if you chrooted correctly i imainge that would change.
[17:28] <sebsebseb> tracy69: Are you in the UK? and for Linux hardware advice try ##linux  and ##hardware
[17:29] <magnetron> tracy69: i gave you a list of supported cards. try one of those. i won't sell you any card or recommend any stores in here. good luck!
[17:29] <cdubya> how can you combine multiple pdf's into one on ubuntu?
[17:29] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, i don't think chroot running of gdm is going to do anything though!  what's wrong with your install?  can you boot to recover instead of knoppix?
[17:29] <MacCarburetor> i just downloaded rhythmbox-0.13.0 but how the heck do i install it?
[17:29] <magnetron> cdubya: i think some use pdftk for that
[17:30] <cdubya> magnetron, kewl, thanks!
[17:30] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9,  I did this:  knoppix@Knoppix:/media/sda5$ sudo mount -o rbind proc /media/sda5/proc  knoppix@Knoppix:/media/sda5$ sudo mount -o rbind dev /media/sda5/dev  knoppix@Knoppix:/media/sda5$ sudo chroot /media/sda5  = is this ok?
[17:30] <tracy69> magnetron either u dont speak english or soemthing u think i can go to store and buy card made in 1990 ? i showed u page what card are for sale u tell me which one should i buy
[17:30] <bazhang> tracy69, please stop.
[17:30] <tracy69> ok
[17:30] <tracy69> sorry bazhang
[17:30] <bazhang> MacCarburetor, downloaded from where
[17:31] <MacCarburetor> the office website of rhythmbox
[17:31] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: uhmm
[17:31] <MacCarburetor> i have the tar.gz open
[17:31] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: the one that came with your Ubuntu should have worked really
[17:31] <bazhang> MacCarburetor, any reason to break package management?
[17:31] <MacCarburetor> it's a older version and it's crashy
[17:31] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, as u see, I had my upgrade crashed about a month back and dpkg complained so many things. I am tinkering with it to get it back.
[17:31] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, i'm sorry from a knoppix cd i cannot verify if that will work or not.  i don't know anything about knoppix/ubuntu compatibility like that, i'd feel much more comfortable if you were on an ubuntu livecd instead
[17:32] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: some of the packages in  10.04 will be a bit old now, but they are still new enough, to be good
[17:32] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: you told me you installed Ubuntu recently,  I woudn't even recommend trying to install a .tar.gz if I was you, if your really new
[17:33] <MacCarburetor> How hard can it be?
[17:33] <ksbalaji> When I boot to ubuntu, I get stuck (of the four kernel 2 normal x 2 recovery) of those available, I get only one functioning upto command prompt level.- some kernel ver xx.x.x.28 ]
[17:33] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: you should only really install packages from the Ubuntu repos,  their download respority servers,  and then maybe in other ways
[17:33] <ZykoticK9> !latest | MacCarburetor
[17:33] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: if you can't find the program you want, or have a proper reason to have a later version
[17:34] <sebsebseb> !backports
[17:34] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, unfortunate for me. I have a ery
[17:34] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: also most programs have their user data stored in /home or I guess all of them do really
[17:34] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, unfortunate for me. I have a very old ver of ubuntu livecd
[17:34] <ZykoticK9> MacCarburetor, i was surprised not to find rhythmbox in a lot of PPAs but i couldn't actually find any?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: in hidden .folders,  thing is for certain programs its not so easy to find out, where they are stored
[17:35] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: and Rythombox just happens to be one of them
[17:35] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> I can't wait for the notion ink adam that looks sweet
[17:35] <ginger0bread> hello everyone...
[17:35] <bazhang> !ot | Vic_Sage_The_Que
[17:35] <MacCarburetor> 0.12.8 seems to be working fine again now, i think i'll just use that since updating seems so scary.
[17:35] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, i'm sorry, i just can't help you - hopefully someone else knows.  you might want to ask in ##linux for example.
[17:35] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: MacCarburetor  is rather new to Ubuntu, so I am not sure about recommending or even mentioning ppa's just yet
[17:35] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> its on topic ubottu because it can run ubuntu
[17:35] <ginger0bread> is there any way i can bypass the update from 9.04 to 9.10 and go update directly to 10.04?
[17:36] <sebsebseb> ginger0bread: no
[17:36] <Daughain> Has anyone had any issues with firefox recently?
[17:36] <bazhang> Vic_Sage_The_Que, no its not. #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:36] <sebsebseb> ginger0bread: you must upgrade through 9.04, unless you try and do something unsupported I guess, that could also brake your system
[17:36] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, that's why i sent !latest first - i don't think it's a good idea period.  but i think PPAs are better then source code installs!  makes cleaning the mess up a lot easier for everyone.
[17:36] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> how well does the ubuntu ARM OS work
[17:36] <sebsebseb> ginger0bread: uh must upgrade through 9.10 even, above
[17:36] <linux> hi, i have lan connection and want to install software from other pc threw lan how to do that
[17:36] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, let me try to boot from that 3 years old livecd. I think it is gutsy. I may take a ... maybe 20 min. to come again on channel. Would you be around please?
[17:36] <ginger0bread> sebsebseb: okay.. then i have to update twice..
[17:37] <MacCarburetor> anyway,
[17:37] <sebsebseb> ginger0bread: also be warned,  your upgrade to 9.10 might go wrong, because in the past, from 9.04, it did for a lot of people
[17:37] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, if you have an old ubuntu it probably won't work correctly either!
[17:37] <MacCarburetor> how hard is it to find and install drivers in Ubuntu?
[17:37] <Tibman> my computer screen locks up overnight, anyone else have this problem?
[17:37] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> Ubuntu ARM anybody know??
[17:37] <sebsebseb> MacCarburetor: drivers for what?
[17:37] <MacCarburetor> my laptops webcam
[17:37] <ginger0bread> MacCarburetor: its not really that hard...
[17:37] <ZykoticK9> MacCarburetor, simple - System / Admin / Hardware Drivers - hopefully the rest is built into the kernel ;)
[17:37] <ClassyYap> hi how do i make computer detect my wii remote
[17:37] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, it is a point. Then I would come using my knoppix and report failure!
[17:37] <ginger0bread> sebsebseb: aw... if it can go wrong how can i recover?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> ginger0bread: have you got a Live CD?
[17:38] <ginger0bread> sebsebseb: yeah
[17:38] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> does it have a lot of the linux apps that I like??
[17:38] <sebsebseb> ginger0bread: well you can boot up from that, and  re instal,  altough if your going to do a re install, it should be with 10.04 really
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, i recommend you get a livecd for the version of ubuntu you are dealing with (or a liveusb) - OR can you boot Recovery Mode?
[17:39] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, I also self admire at my stubbornness in trying to repair the crashed os instead of installing again.
[17:39] <linux> hi, i have lan connection and want to install software from other pc threw lan how to do that
[17:39] <sebsebseb> ginger0bread: also with Live CD you should be able to access any data, but should be backing up anything you want to keep for ages anyway, because hard disks can just fail and what not
[17:39] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> DOES ANYBODY KNOW ABOUT UBUNTU ARM??
[17:39] <tasslehoff> I've installed 64-bit Ubuntu and have / and /home partitions in an encrypted partition. Is it possible with the alternate installer to reinstall 32-bit Ubuntu on / and keep the contents of /home?
[17:39] <sebsebseb> !caps | Vic_Sage_The_Que
[17:39] <sebsebseb> !arm | Vic_Sage_The_Que
[17:39] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, there are a lot more interesting/fun challenges once the system is working ;)
[17:39] <ginger0bread> sebsebseb: actually i just erased all of my files... all of them. Windows SUCKS! i will use ubuntu now..
[17:40] <MacCarburetor> i have the hardware drivers window open but i can't see any search for drivers button or anything
[17:40] <erdnase> Excuse me, how do I get the restricted modules again?
[17:40] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, I am able to boot recovery mode upto prompt level. But I am no good at command lines. How to start a chat with command line? I only know to use Xchat.
[17:40] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> ginger0bread: I use micro xp for windoze appz in a small partition
[17:40] <sjm> Vic_Sage_The_Que, try #ubuntu-arm
[17:40] <mrp> can i roll back to a lucid version of a program in mvarrick
[17:40] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, what is actually wrong with your system?
[17:40] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, yeah I know it. I have been using linux (ubuntu) for years
[17:41] <iceroot> mrp: #ubuntu+1  and by default you cant
[17:42] <root_> ...
[17:42] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, I took risk with upgrading without backup from 8.04 to 9.10 lts while trying to upgrade to 10.04. *only 9.10 was offered by the system. But after the download, dpkg crashed due to a pwr failure. Then you know !  I am trying to repair for a month now.
[17:43] <Squarism> does compiz! have "show alla windows" osx-like expose function?
[17:43] <bazhang> Squarism, yes
[17:43] <noolness> meta + d i think
[17:44] <noolness> meta + w rather
[17:44] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, as you suggest, is it possible to have help without gui and only using commands to connect?
[17:44] <root_> hell0
[17:44] <noolness> or meta + a
[17:44] <Z0Mil> hi
[17:44] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, 8.04 would have to updated to 9.04 then 9.10 then 10.04.  that's a nightmare, i'm sorry i'm just going to wish you luck, and suggest backing up your files and fresh installing.
[17:44] <private_meta> yay, it's all about me
[17:44] <noolness> and meta + e will show all desktops
[17:45] <noolness> and you can even drag windows between them
[17:45] <HollywoodJumper> hi everyone
[17:45] <erdnase> Excuse me, how do I get the restricted modules again?
[17:45] <Squarism> noolness, yeah.. found that... but it doesnt show you all windows like osx does.. can it be configured to do that?
[17:46] <root_> hi hollywood
[17:46] <bazhang> erdnase, for what exactly
[17:46] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, but I find files downloaded for 9.10. Only issue is , after unpacking, something has not been configured. without GUI like gdm, can you help me online using commands?
[17:46] <erdnase> bazhang, Oh, I needed to play .mp3 files.
[17:46] <erdnase> I need the decoder.
[17:46] <HollywoodJumper> i ahven't been on this channel in like years
[17:46] <bazhang> erdnase, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:46] <erdnase> bazhang, Oh, so it was "extras" not modules. Thanks.
[17:46] <HollywoodJumper> *have'nt
[17:46] <erdnase> I always forget that. >_>
[17:47] <root_> hacker
[17:47] <noolness> Squarism, all windows from all desktops? i don't know how, but you might be able to do it with the advanced compiz configuration too
[17:47] <root_> policejo
[17:47] <bazhang> root_, what?
[17:47] <ksbalaji> How do I use this channel without GUI apps like Xchat? I have no functioning display manager.
[17:47] <root_> bazhang> root_, what?
[17:48] <bazhang> root_, support question?
[17:48] <bastidrazor> ksbalaji: install irssi .. that is a terminal/cli irssi app
[17:48] <bazhang> ksbalaji, irssi
[17:48] <HollywoodJumper> does anyone know of any repositories that provide good support for android os
[17:48] <root_> NO
[17:48] <root_> name_???
[17:49] <bastidrazor> root_: connecting to irc via the root account is not very intelligent.
[17:49] <ksbalaji> bastidrazor, bazhang thanks. I shall do. Is it easy to operate? some basic guidance to reach this channes using irssi?
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> ksbalaji, i'm sorry - your issue is just too BIG for me to help in resolving it.  other more manageable issues are more interesting to me.  sorry see !attitude (not in a bad way, couldn't find a "volunteer" factoid) for explanation
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> !attitude > ksbalaji
[17:49] <HollywoodJumper> !android
[17:50] <bastidrazor> ksbalaji: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi   is a great guide.. also there is an #irssi channel
[17:50] <ksbalaji> ZykoticK9, np. I am enjoying the repairing work for the past one month. some more delay I do not mind. I shall definitely report success here. Hope you would be around here to share my happiness.
[17:52] <bastidrazor> ksbalaji: when you install irssi in ubuntu it adds freenode and #ubuntu to the auto-start-join server/channels.
[17:53] <ksbalaji> bastidrazor, this is great info.
[17:53] <HollywoodJumper> i am running 8.04 LTS. should i upgrade to the most recent build?
[17:54] <ksbalaji> BYE and see you again using irssi
[17:54] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: If you want, I don't see anything wrong with upgrading to 10.04
[17:54] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: 8.04 is still supported on the desktop for another 8 months
[17:55] <IdleOrange> Anyone tried the Beta of 10.10?
[17:55] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: 2 years and 8 months for servers
[17:55] <ubuntu> i'm trying to activate my Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) on hp laptop
[17:55] <undecim> ubuntu: Easiest way is to connect it via Ethernet long enough to download the drivers
[17:55] <bb__> I got a problem with Intel Atom D510 - grafic output is not accaptable at all - A friend somehow managed to get ubuntu installed on the system - but I either get no picture at all (HDMI to VGA), or get two flickering and overlapping pictures at once (HDMI to DVI). Now I found some posts about Ubuntu problems with this grafic chipset, but still have no clue how I can solve that issue. I would very much apprecieate some help here! Thx in advance
[17:56] <martez89> I upgraded to 10.10 today, but when I try to start evolution nothing happens. When I put sudo apt-get install evolution in terminal I get this: The following packages have unmet dependencies: evolution : Depends: evolution-data-server (>= 2.30.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: evolution-data-server (< 2.31) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[17:56] <martez89> what can I do to solve this?
[17:56] <undecim> martez89: 10.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[17:56] <ubuntu> iwconfig does not show the interface and the "blue radio light" is not on: lsmod does not show the driver to be loaded: but synaptic is showing that the driver is installed: i'm on the live dvd
[17:57] <HollywoodJumper> Is 10.04 one of the hearty builds?
[17:57] <martez89> undecim, thanks
[17:57] <undecim> ubuntu: it will show the modaliases or something like that which are needed to detect the wireless card, but you need to connect to the internet to download broadcom drivers
[17:57] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: 10.04 is an LTS, yes.
[17:58] <rkulla> when i vim foo.php in the console it shows syntax colors, but not when i'm inside of gnu screen and do it. any idea why?
[17:58] <undecim> ubuntu: The driver is called "broadcom-sta" I think
[17:58] <ubuntu> ok
[17:58] <HollywoodJumper> undecim: thanks
[17:58] <ubuntu> undecim, i have the ether.. connected
[17:58] <rkulla> i have 'term screen-256color in my ~/.screenrc
[17:58] <HollywoodJumper> I am dual booting on my latop is there risks associated with updated to 10.04?
[17:58] <undecim> ubuntu: As soon as you connect, go to System -> Admin -> Hardware Drivers
[17:58] <apparle> guys, please tell me how to check what is the size of video memory?
[17:59] <undecim> apparle: I think it would show up somewhere in "sudo lshw"
[17:59] <undecim> apparle: Probably a less verbose command for that, but it should show up.
[17:59] <ubuntu> ok.. going
[17:59] <ubuntu> i'm there
[18:00] <amabo> ugh, the monospaced font is terrible. changing it in preferences (for firefox) doesn't fix anything though
[18:00] <amabo> can anyone offer some insight?
[18:00] <undecim> apparle: hmm... Maybe not...
[18:00] <area51pilot> Need help connecting to wireless network...won't authenticate?
[18:00] <undecim> ubuntu: do you see a broadcom driver there?
[18:01] <apparle> undecim: don't know, reading it :D... have not encountered it till now.
[18:01] <apparle> undecim: I am try to find if my video driver has a proble
[18:02] <apparle> undecim: any more ideas
[18:03] <undecim> apparle: My GPU memory shows up with "lspci -vv | less", then just press / and type "VGA" to find the section for your video card.
[18:03] <ubuntu> undecim, yes and its "ctivated but not currently in use"
[18:04] <undecim> ubuntu: hmm... it says you need to restart to activate it?
[18:04] <nickel> installed kubuntu and windows vista wasn't starting up anymore....so reinstalled MBR and now kubuntu isn't accesable...any windows friendly solution?
[18:04] <ubuntu> well i'm on a live dvd
[18:04] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | nickel
[18:04] <alesia> goona be a long night
[18:04] <alesia> :D
[18:04] <sebsebseb> nickel: you would need to re install Grub2
[18:05] <undecim> ubuntu: of course... you'll probably have to load the module manually then... I think it's something like bcm-wl... not sure
[18:05] <ubuntu> undecim, is there a way to make it alive via cli
[18:05] <apparle> undecim: what is -w for? manpage doesn't show any such option
[18:05] <sebsebseb> nickel: or you could even try and install the old version, if you wanted, which I prefer personalley
[18:05] <sebsebseb> !grub | nickel
[18:05] <undecim> apparle: that's two vs, not a w
[18:05] <apparle> undecim: ohhh lol
[18:05] <nickel> @ubottu- but i'm afraid that vista will run into problem again
[18:06] <area51pilot> need help authenticating wireless connection???
[18:06] <amjed> hi all
[18:06] <sebsebseb> nickel: ubottu is a female bot computer program
[18:06] <sebsebseb> !gender
[18:06] <ZykoticK9> apparle, undecim's command was a very good idea but on my nvidia it doesn't show the memory :(  I had to use nvidia-settings and select GPU0 to see the memory (but that is nvidia specific)
[18:06] <mhall119> what's a good RSS feed reader for Ubuntu?
[18:06] <apparle> undecim: again nothing on manpage.. but I suppose double verbose?
[18:06] <undecim> ubuntu: run "modprobe -l bcm*" and that will give you a list of modules that start with bcm.
[18:06] <undecim> apparle: yup
[18:06] <sebsebseb> nickel: ok your new, and worried about having problems with Vista
[18:07] <swiggy> whats the best billard/table-pool game?
[18:07] <swiggy> i got billardGL but its ghey
[18:07] <nickel> as long as i find the solution. i dont care
[18:07] <sebsebseb> nickel: Why do you want Vista?  and re installing Grub 2 or the old version Grub, isn't that easy
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> apparle, verbose x2 is correct.  you can also use "lspci -vnvn" which i believe show even more info (still no gfx memory on nvidia though)
[18:07] <undecim> apparle: I have a line like "Region 2: Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]" in my Video card section meaning i have 256M for my GPU
[18:07] <ubuntu> yes, one sec
[18:07] <dob_> anybody here with knowledge about ppa?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> nickel: Which is exactly why people say to have Windows installed first,  before putting a Linux distro on
[18:08] <nickel> right now..vista is important..i may shift later...
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | dob_
[18:08] <sebsebseb> nickel: ok so only Vista boots now?
[18:08] <nickel> yes...and mbr doesn't recognise ubuntu...
[18:08] <xxiao> i need autoconf2.59, and it depends on default autoconf, there is no update-alternative for autoconf, how can I change the default one to autoconf2.59?
[18:08] <dob_> i created a ppa and uploaded my source, upload was successful, but i doesn't appear in my ppa. How long will i have to wait?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> nickel: the easiest way for you to have Kubuntu booting as well, would probably be to re install it
[18:09] <apparle> undecim: ok, I got it, but it shows correct info right, because I have this line in my boot messages "[drm:rs400_gart_adjust_size] *ERROR* Forcing to 32M GART size (because of ASIC bug ?)"
[18:09] <sebsebseb> nickel: Microsoft don't exactly like other OS's so make sure they go over the MBR
[18:09] <ubuntu> undecim, i know that the bcm43 is not loaded .. here's the output from the command
[18:09] <ubuntu> kernel/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.ko
[18:09] <apparle> undecim: you have any idea whether video and gart size or different?
[18:09] <mhall119> dob_: it can take tens of minutes to compile your packages
[18:09] <HollywoodJumper> undecim: i am dual booting on my laptop. are there risk associated with upgrading to 10.04?  if so what is the safest way to install/upgrade to 10.04?
[18:09] <mhall119> sometimes longer, especially this close to a release
[18:09] <ubuntu> kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/bcm3510.ko
[18:09] <ZykoticK9> dob_, i'd ask in #launchpad perhaps.  good luck.
[18:09] <area51pilot> need help connecting to wireless networks in 10.04
[18:10] <ubuntu> kernel/drivers/bluetooth/bcm203x.ko
[18:10] <sebsebseb> nickel: well I assume that is the reason for it
[18:10] <dajhorn> HollywoodJumper: The upgrade to 10.04 shouldn't touch the boot loader.
[18:10] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: I don't. I've seen some Ubuntu systems go unbootable from an upgrade, but Grub still worked fine
[18:10] <nickel> is EasyBCD usefull in this problem....
[18:10] <HollywoodJumper> undecim:thanks
[18:10] <ClassyYap> Hello. How DO I Run Dolphin-EMU on 64 bit Ubuntu. I don't understand how to install it. I unzipped but clicking on the program does nothing
[18:10] <dob_> okay, i am waiting for about an hour....
[18:10] <hiku> HollywoodJumper: ask in #ubuntu+1 if you are upgrading to 10.10
[18:11] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> ubuntu arm seems to be pretty dead anybody know a list of apps available in the ubuntu-arm repository
[18:11] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> ???
[18:11] <tacomaster> will ubuntu support being a wired ad-hog via crossover?
[18:11] <HollywoodJumper> hiku: thanks
[18:11] <babai> Am I the only one  seeing the forums messed up?
[18:11] <undecim> apparle: no idea
[18:12] <hiku> HollywoodJumper: your welcome
[18:12] <HollywoodJumper> when i upgrade should i back up everything on my ubuntu partition?
[18:12] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: Absolutely
[18:12] <area51pilot> anyone good with wireless authentication?
[18:12] <HollywoodJumper> undecim:ok dumb question
[18:12] <dajhorn> ClassyYap: Start dolphin from a terminal window.
[18:12] <sebsebseb> HollywoodJumper: upgrading to 10.04 from what?
[18:12] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: Actually, I recommend making a backup of your home directory and doing a fresh install if possible
[18:13] <sebsebseb> HollywoodJumper: 9.10 to 10.04 upgrade will probably go alright.   9.04 to 9.10 maybe not
[18:13] <area51pilot> is network manager any better in 10.10
[18:13] <duffydack> area51pilot, sup
[18:13] <swiggy> does anyone know of a PitFall port/game for ubuntu??
[18:13] <undecim> HollywoodJumper: A lot has changed in two years, including the filesystem. You will get a performance benefit from a fresh install
[18:13] <swiggy> i know you all remember pitfall
[18:13] <area51pilot> hey duff
[18:13] <sebsebseb> HollywoodJumper: 8.04 to 10.04.1 upgrade will probably also go ok
[18:13] <area51pilot> howdy
[18:13] <undecim> ubuntu: Nothing from kernel/drivers/net?
[18:13] <HollywoodJumper> yes i will be doing 8.04 to 10.04
[18:13] <duffydack> area51pilot, still in the same 'shtick' then
[18:13] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> can someone link me I want to see what apps are available
[18:14] <area51pilot> yep
[18:14] <sebsebseb> HollywoodJumper: however if a upgrade messes up enough, and you got a Live CD, should still be able to get hold of data.  However good idea to back up stuff you want to keep anyway, since hard disks can just fail and what not.
[18:14] <ubuntu> those were the only 3 in the result
[18:14] <area51pilot> I had it working but then the system wouldnt let me login anymore
[18:14] <HollywoodJumper> so what is the best method for fresh instal?  boot from disk?
[18:14] <area51pilot> :P
[18:14] <ClassyYap> i tried running Dolphin through terminal it wont'
[18:15] <sebsebseb> HollywoodJumper: as for setting up a seperate /home thats easiest to do probably, when installing Ubuntu,  rather than afterwoulds, but I have never done so afterwoulds
[18:15] <sebsebseb> !home | HollywoodJumper
[18:15] <duffydack> area51pilot, so you got tour wifi fixed?   and it broke?
[18:15] <duffydack> your*
[18:15] <ClassyYap> "/home/bryan/Desktop/Binary/Linux-x86_64"
[18:15] <ClassyYap> whoops
[18:15] <area51pilot> exactly
[18:15] <area51pilot> what a tease
[18:15] <ClassyYap> "bash: exec: dolphin-emu: not found
[18:15] <ClassyYap> "
[18:15] <lgp171188> Hi all, I have a query. I had a FAT32 partition that was shared between my Windows and Ubuntu installation. It was showing up in Ubuntu as 12 GB filesystem. But suddenly it now shows its name as æ±». Any clues on whysuch a thing has happened and how to correct it?
[18:16] <HollywoodJumper> this channel is probably the best help/support channel i have ever experienced dealing with computers so thanks to all who help.
[18:16] <dajhorn> lgp171188: Make a backup of your stuff Right Now.
[18:16] <sebsebseb> HollywoodJumper: ok your welcome :)
[18:16] <undecim> ubuntu: can you give me a pastebin of the output of "ls /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/net"
[18:16] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> ANYBODY KNOW A LINK TO THE UBUNTU ARM REPOSITORY??
[18:16] <hiku> HollywoodJumper: why thank you.
[18:16] <hiku> HollywoodJumper: we try...
[18:17] <Pici> !caps | Vic_Sage_The_Que
[18:17] <ubuntu> ok.. one sec
[18:17] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: not sure, but you probably don't really need a FAT32 anymore, because Ubuntu can deal with NTFS read and write stabley since 7.10, and yeah other distros can do NTFS like this as well of course
[18:17] <oracle> !arm
[18:17] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: and NTFS is also quite a bit better than FAT32
[18:17] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> i just need to know what appz are available on an arm basedmachine
[18:17] <lgp171188> sebsebseb: Yeah I agree, but how did such a name corruption happen? I am considering converting to NTFS
[18:18]  * Vic_Sage_The_Que hears only echos
[18:18] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: ideally  Linux file systems, but those aren't so easy to use with Windows as well
[18:18]  * Monotoko waits for gcc to finish compiling
[18:18] <Stealth-> Hey people, I got a question. I want to delete Ubuntu Netbook remix from my computer, whilst keeping Windows 7 and Ubuntu on my computer, I need to know a link or a guide as google searches really dont help me at the moment D=
[18:19] <sebsebseb> Stealth-: so you have desktop version?  netbook version? and Win7 on your computer?
[18:19] <Stealth-> Yeah sebsebseb
[18:19] <undecim> Vic_Sage_The_Que: If you find a package at packages.ubuntu.com it should say if it's available for arm.
[18:19] <sebsebseb> Stealth-: ok a triple boot
[18:19] <Monotoko> Stealth...which one did you install last?
[18:19] <sebsebseb> Stealth-: right which Ubuntu is responsible for Grub?
[18:19] <Stealth-> Ubuntu Desktop 10.04
[18:19] <undecim> Vic_Sage_The_Que: There's also http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/partner/binary-armel/Packages
[18:20] <Stealth-> Sebsebseb i installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix first, thats all I know
[18:20] <Maro__> So, I kinda broke my install fiddling with graphics settings, currently booted onto the live CD. Where the heck is the old recovery console? I just boot from HD and it has the Ubuntu logo then black screen, no GRUB options for recovery console...
[18:20] <sebsebseb> Stealth-: ok so that means the netbook version is responsible for Grub?
[18:20] <dajhorn> Vic_Sage_The_Que: Be patient.  Snarking the channel makes it unlikely that you'll get an answer.    Your best bet is to browse the content and manifest files.  http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/lucid/   ARM doesn't show up on the main packages page.
[18:20] <undecim> Vic_Sage_The_Que: There's a list like that for each repo
[18:20] <sebsebseb> Monotoko: or no its the desktop? since that was installed last?
[18:20] <erUSUL> Maro__: press shift during boot for the grub menu to appear
[18:20] <Stealth-> I think so sebsebseb
[18:20] <luckyone_> what do folks think about ATI drivers in ubuntu now? I have been on nvidia for quite sometime
[18:20] <Monotoko> if the desktop version is responsible for Grub (and it probably is UNLESS you told it not too because thats the last one that was installed)
[18:20] <Maro__> okay thanks seb!
[18:20] <ubuntu> undecim, http://paste.ubuntu.com/487914/
[18:20] <Monotoko> you can safely wipe the netbook
[18:20] <Maro__> Also, what's the terminal command to reset the graphics drivers to default or something? :D
[18:21] <sebsebseb> Maro__: uh?
[18:21] <Stealth-> Yeah monotoko but how?
[18:21] <nickel> ubuntu 10.04 display is all scrambled up- the live usb session.....I'm using amd turion 64x2 laptop, 1gb ram.
[18:21] <sebsebseb> Maro__: wrong person?
[18:21] <Stealth-> I am really not sure how to do it in ubuntu at all D=
[18:21] <lgp171188> sebsebseb: I know. The support for accessing extX filesystems in Windows is very poor. I will convert to NTFS but how to find out what could have caused it?
[18:21] <Maro__> Oh sorry
[18:21] <Monotoko> Stealth-,  from the Ubuntu Desktop and with Gparted
[18:21] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: actsauly Ext3
[18:21] <Maro__> erUSUL: any idea what the command is to reset the graphics drivers to default?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: theres a driver for Windows, that in my experience has worked reasaonbly well
[18:21] <mrp> Why am I getting this error? http://pastebin.ca/1931874
[18:21] <sebsebseb> !ext3 | lgp171188
[18:21] <Maro__> erUSUL: I broke stuff by installing a proprietry nvidia driver...
[18:21] <Stealth-> and monotoko, if the netbook remix is responsable for Grub, what will happen when I delete it?
[18:21] <Monotoko> Stealth-, you might want to keep a recovery disk handy incase it was the Netbook one thats controlling Grub
[18:21] <erUSUL> Maro__: the recovery menu should have an option to restore Xwindows
[18:22] <Stealth-> Monotoko, I have a USB Drive with Ubuntu on it
[18:22] <Maro__> erUSUL: okay thanks, will give it a try... :D
[18:22] <Monotoko> Stealth-, it will die horribly...but you can fix it using that disk
[18:22] <slyboots> Hi, Easy question.. whats the "correct" way to remove a PPA respositroy from linux
[18:22] <lgp171188> sebsebseb: ubottu: I have a ext4 filesystem. I haven't tried accessing that from Windows, though I had used some software to access ext3 from it when it was the default in Ubuntu
[18:22] <Stealth-> Shit
[18:22] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: also maybe Pici or someone like that should change the !ext3 factoid a bit, since it used to be the default file system.
[18:22] <Stealth-> Will i lose any files monotoko
[18:22] <erUSUL> slyboots: apt-purge
[18:22] <Monotoko> Stealth-, nope...just the ability to boot
[18:22] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: don't try and access Ext4 from Windows, probably won't really work out to well
[18:22] <MACscr> how can i restart gnome/compiz without closing all my windows/applications? compiz crashed at one point and its been weird since then
[18:22] <undecim> ubuntu: Can you make sure that bcmwl-kernel-source is installed?
[18:22] <MACscr> i have to much stuff open to simply just reboot
[18:23] <Stealth-> Ahh right, so I can put my Ubuntu USB stick in, and it should fix Ubuntu for me?
[18:23] <Stealth-> Well grub
[18:23] <slyboots> erUSUL: To remove the actual repository from the system?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: however I am thinking you  could replace your Fat32 with a Ext3, and then probably use that driver, to access it from WIndows as well
[18:23] <slyboots> Not just the packages
[18:23] <dajhorn> slyboots: Look at the 'ppa-purge' helper package.
[18:23] <erUSUL> slyboots: System>Admin...>software sources
[18:23] <Monotoko> Stealth-, with a couple of commands yeah :) but hopefully its Ubuntu Desktop thats managing Grub
[18:23] <ubuntu> ok.. one sec
[18:23] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: however you don't need to do that really, since NTFS will probably be good enough
[18:23] <undecim> ubuntu: when installing, it should do an initial DKMS build of the module and it will be available
[18:23] <Stealth-> Monotoko, if I installed Netbook first, THEN I installed desktop, what are the odds its desktop using Grub?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> Stealth-: its probably the desktop version
[18:24] <erUSUL> slyboots: sorry i was talking about ppa-purge as dajhorn said ; brainfart :/
[18:24] <Monotoko> Stealth-, 90%
[18:24] <Stealth-> Ahh good sebsebseb
[18:24] <slyboots> Mm.. okay
[18:24] <Stealth-> So I get gparted and then select the partitions, but how do I know I am not deleting the wrong partitions
[18:24] <ubuntu> ok trying
[18:24] <nickel> i have ubuntu 10.04 live usb...but the display is all scrambled up in my laptop....i'm using amd turion 64x2 1 gb ram...any help?
[18:24] <lgp171188> sebsebseb: By using a non-native fs in Windows, I will lose a lot of benefits, so NTFS is the best bet for me. But how do such name corruptions like the name changing to æ±»happen?
[18:24] <Maro__> erUSUL: that didn't work, shift did nothing ;p
[18:24] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: Why do you want to use data in Windows anyway?
[18:24] <slyboots> Mm, there is no ppa-purge in the repositories
[18:24] <Maro__> I just get a low-res ubuntu graphic then a black screen
[18:25] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: as for the name, I have no idea
[18:25] <lgp171188> sebsebseb: Also NTFS support is *good* in Ubuntu
[18:25] <Stealth-> does gparted tell you what is on the partition or?
[18:25] <erUSUL> Maro__: can you switch to a VT ? crtl + alt + f1
[18:25] <Monotoko> Stealth-, run "sudo fdisk -l" and place the results in: paste.ubuntu.com
[18:25] <sebsebseb> lgp171188: NTFS support is good in Linux distros, not only Ubuntu :)
[18:25] <Stealth-> Ok monotoko
[18:25] <lgp171188> sebsebseb: No it was a FAT partition from some old installation of Windows
[18:25] <Monotoko> Stealth-, :)
[18:25] <Maro__> erUSUL: no, its crashed on the black screen. Keyboard doesnt do anything- no lights etc
[18:26] <dajhorn> lgp171188:  FAT is not journaled and not checksummed.  If the junk is written to disk -- sometimes due to bad hardware -- it stays on the disk.
[18:26] <Stealth-> what does it do monotoko?
[18:26] <Monotoko> Stealth-, itl give me a look at your partition table so i can tell you which one to delete
[18:26] <chadwin> hey guys where can I get help for a Wubi Problem
[18:26] <chadwin> ??
[18:26] <sebsebseb> chadwin: here
[18:26] <sebsebseb> !ask | chadwin
[18:26] <ClassyYap> Guys how the heck do i move a file from desktop to my /usr/lib. i have no permission to
[18:26] <Stealth-> Ahh Ok monotoko
[18:26] <Maro__> erUSUL: So..uh any other ways to get into a recovery console?
[18:27] <lgp171188> dajhorn: Yeah FAT is a very much legacy filesystem which is very draconian nowadays
[18:27] <Stealth-> gimme 2 mins monotoko, need the toilet
[18:27] <dajhorn> ClassyYap:   You need to do it like this:  `sudo cp`.   You should never touch /usr/lib.  Try to put it in /usr/local/lib.
[18:27] <Maro__> I just need to get a console so I can fix what I broke...
[18:27] <Monotoko> Stealth-, hahah, okies :) mention my nick when you get back so xchat bleeps at me
[18:27] <chadwin> Ok I have a brand new dell computer in which I installed wubi, now when I go to select the ubuntu particion at the begining my keyboard doesnt work
[18:27] <hsr> Hello
[18:27] <ZykoticK9> ClassyYap, what are you trying to accomplish?  and are you running 64bit OS?
[18:27] <erUSUL> Maro__: what exactly did you do? edit a file? or what
[18:27] <sebsebseb> chadwin: ok uhmm
[18:28] <slyboots> .. how do I .. where do I get ppa-purge o.O
[18:28] <dajhorn> slyboots: apt-get install ppa-purge
[18:28] <Maro__> erUSUL: No, I just changed the driver from the most up to date nvidia driver to a slightly older one to try and resolve a problem. Rebooted and it blackscreens
[18:28] <sebsebseb> chadwin: for various reaosns I woudn't recommend Wubi in the first place useually
[18:28] <slyboots> Doesnt work, doesnt see that as a valid package
[18:28] <lgp171188> Any idea where OS gets the partition name like "12 GB Filesystem" and etc. when a partition is mounted?
[18:28] <sebsebseb> chadwin: an to test your hardware, before installing Ubuntu, you can use the live session on the Live CD
[18:28] <slyboots> E:Could not find package ppa-purge
[18:28] <Maro__> erUSUL: that is from the hardware drivers utility, not manually
[18:28] <dajhorn> slyboots: Add the Universe section in the Software Sources panel.
[18:28] <erUSUL> Maro__: i see; maybe just moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way ( from a livecd ) works
[18:28] <slyboots> Im on ubutnu server ^;
[18:28] <sebsebseb> chadwin: and proper partitioned installs are much better in the long run
[18:29] <dajhorn> lgp171188: Nautilus computes that name when the filesystem label is empty.
[18:29] <Mnemonic^> Hi Can anyone help me. I want to understand what this does in details. " -     sed 's/.*country":\(.*\)/\1/'
[18:29] <Maro__> erUSUL: Okay, thanks, I'll try that!
[18:29] <chadwin> ok thanks bro for your helpo
[18:29] <ZykoticK9> slyboots, dajhorn i'm on desktop and still no ppa-purge or ppapurge...
[18:29] <hsr> lgp171188: It will be available to explore in nautilus/dolphin
[18:29] <ClassyYap> Zykotick9, i have 64 bit ubuntu os. and want my 64 bit dolphin to install so i can use it
[18:29] <erUSUL> Maro__: mount the ubuntu partition and use « sudo mv /mount/point/etc/X11/xorg.conf /mount/point/etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  »
[18:29] <Maro__> thanks
[18:30] <sebsebseb> chadwin: and check the ISO for the Live CD :)
[18:30] <sebsebseb> chadwin: before using
[18:30] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[18:30] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[18:30] <FloodBot3> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <chadwin> ok
[18:30] <slyboots> Okay, got it needed to enable Universe repositories
[18:30] <sachael> hi guys, is there a free/opensource quake (or clone of) that I can play natively on ubuntu?
[18:30] <random-jellyfish> can I boot ubuntu from a secondary partition?
[18:30] <slyboots> Weird though, thought that was already activate
[18:30] <dajhorn> Mnemonic^: It does the same thing as `cut -f2 -d:` or $2 in `awk`.   Don't ask homework questions here.
[18:30] <hsr> lgp171188: Is that what your question was?
[18:31] <lgp171188> hsr: Where does the OS get names like "12 GB filesystem" for mounted partitions?
[18:31] <dajhorn> random-jellyfish: Yes.
[18:31] <ZykoticK9> ClassyYap, ok - well i don't have the foggiest how to manually add libraries, maybe it's just a matter of copying them in there - but i'm not sure.  i don't really think it's the greatest ideal to try manually adding libraries actually... but you need to use sudo to copy anything into /usr.  best of luck.
[18:31] <dajhorn> lgp171188: Nautilus computes that name when the filesystem label is empty.
[18:31] <Mnemonic^> dajhorn, Hehe .. Thanks .. Not homework.. :) I am breaking down a script, as it does not work.
[18:31] <undecim> ubuntu:
[18:31] <lgp171188> hse: Because suddenly my "12 GB filesystem" partition is now named as "æ±»"
[18:31] <undecim> ubuntu: You sill there?
[18:32] <Monotoko> Stealth-, I gotta go, but theres lotsa people here who will help...if it does die and fail boot you want the "Grub2 repair" wiki page
[18:32] <Mnemonic^> dajhorn: So it uses country": as a delimiter?
[18:32] <random-jellyfish> I want to dual boot ubuntu and windows 7, what's the best way to partition my harddrive ... I currently have a hidden recovery partition, a Windows ntfs primary partition and 100GB unallocated space
[18:32] <lgp171188> hsr:  Because suddenly my "12 GB filesystem" partition is now named
[18:32] <lgp171188>             as "æ±»"
[18:32] <dajhorn> Mnemonic^: It removes the country delimiter.  This is sorta-kinda-mostly a regex for "print the second column".
[18:33] <dajhorn> Mnemonic^: You would usually see this in the "sed -n -e s/foo/bar/p" form.
[18:33] <Stealth-> back
[18:33] <Mnemonic^> dajhorn, Ok.. Thanks
[18:33] <ZykoticK9> random-jellyfish, perfect install into that 100GB space, "should" be enough room - if you can share your "files" with the windows partition
[18:33] <ClassyYap> man this hard
[18:33] <Stealth-> monotoko, ok mate
[18:33] <lgp171188> dajhorn: Oh if that is done when there is no name for the partition, I am having "æ±" as the name
[18:33] <dajhorn> Mnemonic^: Are you debugging an Ubuntu system script?  Or something local?
[18:33] <Stealth-> I have got gparted up and running, just got to figure what partition to delete
[18:33] <lgp171188> dajhorn: "æ±»"
[18:33] <random-jellyfish> ZykoticK9 shouldn't i make swap partition as well?
[18:34] <ZykoticK9> random-jellyfish, ya - the install will automatically in the 100gb space
[18:34] <dajhorn> lgp171188: Are the locale and codepage different?  Are you on a non-English computer?
[18:34] <random-jellyfish> oh ok, great
[18:34] <Stealth-> Can anyone here assist me in uninstalling Ubuntu netbook remix? I have 3 Operating systems on this computer, but want to remove the Netbook remix one.
[18:35] <ZykoticK9> random-jellyfish, i believe there is a "Use largest free space" or similar wording in the installer ;)
[18:35] <Stealth-> If anyone would not mind walking me through it step by stpe
[18:35] <Stealth-> step*
[18:35] <lgp171188> dajhorn: No. I am on a US-English locale since I installed Ubuntu. Suddenly the name changed during the current boot
[18:35] <ClassyYap> my CP command keeps ommiting my source directory
[18:35] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, you can't really Uninstall an OS - you could delete the partition?
[18:36] <Mnemonic^> dajhorn, I am debugging a script called Prey, that should be able to locate your laptop if it gets lost or stolen. But it would be SOOO COOL if the taught sed when i went to school.
[18:36] <dajhorn> lgp171188: Backup your data and force a filesystem check.
[18:36] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, I need to delete its partition.
[18:36] <jquiterio> helo
[18:36] <jquiterio> hello
[18:36] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, easiest way to do that is from a LiveCD or one of your other OSs.  you can't do it from inside the Remix one basically.
[18:37] <jquiterio> i have IBM Lenovo machine with ubuntu 10.04 and virtual box with win7
[18:37] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> if I remove my old ubuntu install does it affect my MBR??
[18:37] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, I am in Ubuntu Desktop Edition at the moment. I have Windows 7 with one option to boot, Ubuntu Desktop with 1 option to book And ubuntu Netbook edition with 3 options to boot. i wish to remove Ubuntu Netbook Edition from inside ubuntu
[18:38] <ZykoticK9> Vic_Sage_The_Que, only if that install is "in control" of grub - which ever OS you installed last is most likely to be controlling grub.
[18:38] <jquiterio> i have a hardware to detect on win7... but i wont firt detect on ubuntu... how can I do ?
[18:38] <dajhorn> Mnemonic^: There are other channels specifically for scripting and programming.  You're likely to get better answers there.
[18:38] <Stealth-> My question is how do i know which is which on gparted
[18:38] <ubuntu> undecim, yes.. now the synaptic is showing that the bcmwl-kernel-source is installed
[18:38] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, are you using Grub2 to manage your booting?
[18:39] <Stealth-> I am not sure ZykoticK9, It came with Ubuntu Netbook edition if thats any help
[18:39] <Mnemonic^> dajhorn, I know .. X-Chat tricked me into asking here, I was actually going to ask in #sed
[18:39] <Stealth-> Its Grub or Grub2
[18:39] <Mnemonic^> dajhorn, Thanks anyway :)
[18:39] <lgp171188> dajhorn: I did a fsck from Ubuntu and it didn't show anything
[18:39] <undecim> ubuntu: I forget what the command to build a module with DKMS is. Maybe the man page would help...
[18:39] <dajhorn> Mnemonic^: Welcome regardless.
[18:39] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, was UNR/E the last OS you installed?
[18:39] <undecim> Or ask here
[18:39] <Stealth-> Nope, Ubuntu Desktop edition was
[18:39] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> i am going to rejigger my computer so I was wondering I want to switch to mainly linux with a small microxp partition
[18:39] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, awesome!
[18:39] <hsr> Hello!
[18:40] <Stealth-> Does that make it easier ZykoticK9
[18:40] <jquiterio> some body can answer me ?
[18:40] <justme> when trying to update my computer this is the error I get////      W: GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139
[18:40] <spitzi> Hi. I had Ubuntu on one partition and installed Vista on another partition. Vista took over the boot and doesn't recognize Ubuntu. How can I configure a boot menu that features both OS's ?
[18:41] <hsr> Why Amarok uses kdewallet?
[18:41] <banished> Hi, whats the cleanes way to update the nvidia driver to the recent version?
[18:41] <gregbair> spitzi, the best thing to do is to install ubuntu second
[18:41] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, just boot into you Desktop and use gparted (or something to delete the UNR/E partition), then run "sudo update-grub2" and it should automatically remove the UNR/E entries.
[18:41] <Guest65256> it changed me to guest   when updating my sys this is the error I get      W: GPG error: http://download.virtualbox.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139
[18:41] <G0d> Hello room. Is anyone taking questions?
[18:41] <zschallz> I'm trying to set up authorized keys... and i've followed a few guides to the tee, but for some reason when I try to ssh in to my remote computer which is set up properly I'm still asked for my password.
[18:41] <zschallz> Is there an easy way to troubleshoot it?
[18:41] <banished> !ask | G0d
[18:41] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, I have Windows 7 on my netbook as well
[18:41] <Stealth-> I am triple-booting, I want to make it so I am dual booting with Windows 7 and Ubuntu
[18:42] <EvilPhoenix> zschallz:  check your sshd configus
[18:42] <EvilPhoenix> configs*
[18:42] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, DON'T delete the wrong partition(s)!!!  be very sure.
[18:42] <zschallz> EvilPhoenix: thanks. I'll give that a check
[18:42] <EvilPhoenix> zschallz:  you need to tell it to accept key authentication
[18:42] <dajhorn> Guest65256: You're getting this because the VirtualBox repository is unofficial.  You can avoid this error by downloading their GPG key and installing it with the `apt-key` program.
[18:42] <Stealth-> I know ZykoticK9,, thats why I need someone to help me
[18:42] <EvilPhoenix> zschallz:  and you can disable password auth too
[18:42] <Stealth-> I dont know whats on each partition
[18:42] <G0d> I accidentally installed ubuntu to my 32gb sd card. after realizing this i removed the sd and installed ubuntu to the hard drive of my netbook. Now the sd card is not readable by any computer. Is there any utility or method i can use to reformat the sd and make it usable again?
[18:42] <hsr> Does anyone uses Amarok here?
[18:42] <nickel> need help loading ubuntu.....i have rewritten mbr.
[18:42] <Guest65256> dajhorn   I am new to ubuntu and I dont know how to do this
[18:42] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, are you in you Desktop Ubuntu?
[18:43] <Stealth-> Yes ZykoticK9
[18:43] <ClassyYap>  What is the exact command example for using cp? cp keeps omitting my source directory
[18:43] <banished> gord: just use gparted to format it
[18:43] <Guest65256> dajhorn   I do know how to use apt a little  where can I find the key?
[18:43] <G0d> banished: the computer doesnt see it
[18:43] <banished> sorry
[18:43] <lgp171188> dajhorn: hsr : Any idea how to reset that Chinese name to the default?
[18:43] <Pici> ClassyYap: use cp -r if you want to copy directories recursively.
[18:43] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, do you know what pastebin is?  could you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[18:43] <ClassyYap> what does that mean
[18:43] <dajhorn> Guest65256:  The instructions to do this are on the VirtualBox download page: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[18:44] <banished> G0d: well, just plug it in and see if it shows up in gparted, it won't be mounted if the filesystem is defect
[18:44] <Stealth-> Ok ZykoticK9
[18:44] <ClassyYap> recursively is dangerous in programming
[18:44] <ubuntu> undecim, thanks for trying to help me.. i have to step out for a couple of hrs..
[18:44] <Pici> ClassyYap: It means you want to decend down into the directories to copy their contents.
[18:44] <G0d> banished: my problem is that the computer does not see it
[18:44] <undecim> ubuntu: no problem
[18:44] <Guest65256> dajhorn   thx    also, I have a cell phone plugged in and the sys doesn't see it.. is there anything I can do
[18:44] <Maro__> thanks erUSUL, got it working now :D
[18:44] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, pasting it now =D
[18:44] <Travis_42> I'm trying to use wget to put all of the files in a web directory into a local directory, but it creates a bunch of unnecessary folders (e.g. domainname/folder/folder/folder/images.jpg instead of just images.jpg into the local directory). Which command line option am I missing?
[18:44] <hsr> lgp171188: No... sorry
[18:44] <banished> G0d: what happens when you plug it in?
[18:44] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, we need the link
[18:44] <Guest65256> dajohrn  I have straight talk t401g phone
[18:45] <ClassyYap> ok that worked
[18:45] <erUSUL> Maro__: no problem
[18:45] <G0d> banished: nothing
[18:45] <ClassyYap> but how do i move the contents of the folder outside into the folder
[18:45] <dajhorn> dajhorn: Don't ask me, ask the channel.
[18:45] <Var> hey guys, how do i get my desktop to have a little more jazz to it?
[18:45]  * dajhorn derps
[18:45] <banished> G0d: does it show up in gparted?
[18:45] <Var> like, a nice info bar on the right or something? so i can see my emails/a trashcan/ect ect
[18:45] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, http://pastebin.com/uXUhDCFq
[18:45] <dajhorn> Guest65256: Don't ask me, ask the channel.  I don't know anything about that phone.
[18:45] <gregbair> Travis_42, it's -nd or --no-directories
[18:46] <G0d> banished: no
[18:46] <lgp171188> Any idea how to reset the name of partition?
[18:46] <Travis_42> gregbair: ah, thank you :-)
[18:46] <banished> G0d: can you please paste dmesg after you plug it in
[18:46] <gregbair> Travis_42, np
[18:46] <banished> !paste | G0d
[18:47] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, so sda5 & sda7 are both linux partitions (sda7 looks bigger), do you know which is UNE/R?
[18:47] <dajhorn> lgp171188: If you reboot into your Windows environment, then you can just right-click and edit the name from My Computer.   In your Ubuntu environment, you'll need to use dosfslabel or gparted.
[18:47] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, I do not no, sorry
[18:47] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, how would I find out please?
[18:47] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> if I delete my ubuntu install will it just dissappear from grub??
[18:47] <haivan> help
[18:47] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> or will it cause problems
[18:47] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, pastebin the output of "mount"
[18:47] <Stealth-> ok
[18:47] <x-izzy> is there advance mail sender for linux?
[18:47] <dajhorn> Vic_Sage_The_Que: No.   The grub.conf and/or menu.lst file would need to be updated.
[18:47] <hsr> My amarok always ask for password for kdewallet on startup... how can i get rid of this?
[18:47] <dt_> hi, is there a way to have the mail icon notify me when evolution finds a new email WITHOUT actually having evolution open?
[18:48] <dt_> or perhaps a workaround that could keep evolution open but hidden so that i get the green notification when i get a new email
[18:48] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, add the output of "df -h" if you can as well ;)
[18:48] <dt_> really suck that it has no system tray feature
[18:48] <dt_> sucks*
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> !info alltray
[18:48] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, will do that next
[18:48] <dt_> hmm, i see
[18:48] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, here is what i get when I put mount
[18:48] <Stealth-> http://pastebin.com/JR3yYJSG
[18:48] <hsr> Dr_Willis: My amarok always ask for password for kdewallet on startup... how can i get rid of this?
[18:49] <Stealth-> do you want me to put df -h now ZykoticK9 or dont you need it?
[18:49] <G0d> banished: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487926/
[18:49] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, not needed!
[18:49] <Stealth-> Ok mate
[18:49] <iplaythisgame> fresh server install of 10.4 here.    add-apt-repository: command not found    ?
[18:49] <KBlJWQ> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! KBlJWQ iplaythisgame BeWolF DigeratiW nisstyre65 psyt7 seidos kek dt_ everythingdaniel poff fabiotomio sburjan` Darren__ spvensko Var CodingDistrict Maro__ ishan Travis_42 Stefanos90 jlhenry G0d banished mangojambo ugliefrog zschallz chcat nickel PreZ spitzi vagvaf wdb Morten_ Lattyware glaucous Terminator MaximLevitsky lukaszg jquiterio ANTRat sanla flashkidd elslunko xiong samrose 
[18:49] <KBlJWQ> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! TFParabox nicoulaj Lenin_Cat quake_guy bootstrap hsr Mnemonic^ bsod1 jaykub M1DLGpc soreau jimius Nighty erana ServerTechPro JumboJellyfish TimeRider slyboots elkclone amarillion RotesOHM EvilPhoenix Stealth- avis genewitch ZykoticK9 KindOne FalsAlarm Zensursula os2mac l34k lgp171188 gilaniali Bauldrick kostkon xxiao dob_ laieman Besogon swiggy Ralfi YankDownUnder krachny jasonb path
[18:49] <KBlJWQ> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! nand am4zin dinya neeraj lat fantasticulous moza erikja sticky k0rupted hiku fserb area51pilot waremperor SeafoodJoe martez89 gigasoft IdleOrange alessiofachechi lhorning macode e01 undecim Roasted_ embla Psychoholic localhost2 brontos antonpiatek jgay engled davide87 [1]gkeen316 luist yotta9111 PresuntoRJ awoodland skyred pmcgowan Petrux-ec sundowner daniel_ acronica noolness Classy
[18:49] <KBlJWQ> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! zkriesse johzephine_ mlaci m0t3jl zaid_h slashiter smerz Bobrobyn sinistrad rad4Christ david__ jono pucko- morrison6 oracle StippenG mrp artvee sanna_ sn0wflake darkham T3CHKOMMIE Squarism MashPotato alesia uRock reflectivedev komputes ke_ FusionX javila Awsoonn lousygarua ezraw lxsys coz_ Anubisss ryaxnb sebsebseb martian Prodego trijntje syslq MadViking gregbair sandertje benkevan 
[18:49] <KBlJWQ> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! dajhorn pure_hate renatofilho OmegaPhil esteeven nanase [ND] extor Seven FunnyLookinHat Alagar1 marekw2143 Mikelevel Monotoko protoquark sjm raven arnorhs enmand ahs3 JodaZ _bugz_ redouane zaggynl pdelgallego choonming duffydack kalle_ dfarning Elaine luis_lopez failure _eXeCuTeR AntiSpamMeta kerim bipolar rmrfslash Guest28807 wyggler2 grodii3k klasu_ campee orospakr kabtoffe vlt Zol
[18:50] <sticky> lol
[18:50] <FloodBot3> KBlJWQ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50] <swiggy> wtf
[18:50] <dt_> lol
[18:50] <frogger> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! frogger iplaythisgame BeWolF DigeratiW nisstyre65 psyt7 seidos kek dt_ everythingdaniel poff fabiotomio sburjan` Darren__ spvensko Var CodingDistrict Maro__ ishan Travis_42 Stefanos90 jlhenry G0d banished mangojambo ugliefrog zschallz chcat nickel PreZ spitzi vagvaf wdb Morten_ Lattyware glaucous Terminator MaximLevitsky lukaszg jquiterio ANTRat sanla flashk
[18:50] <frogger> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! nicoulaj Lenin_Cat quake_guy bootstrap hsr Mnemonic^ bsod1 jaykub M1DLGpc soreau jimius Nighty erana ServerTechPro JumboJellyfish TimeRider slyboots elkclone amarillion RotesOHM EvilPhoenix Stealth- avis genewitch ZykoticK9 KindOne FalsAlarm Zensursula os2mac l34k lgp171188 gilaniali Bauldrick kostkon xxiao dob_ laieman Besogon swiggy Ralfi YankDownUnder kra
[18:50] <frogger> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! am4zin dinya neeraj lat fantasticulous moza erikja sticky k0rupted hiku fserb area51pilot waremperor SeafoodJoe martez89 gigasoft IdleOrange alessiofachechi lhorning macode e01 undecim Roasted_ embla Psychoholic localhost2 brontos antonpiatek jgay engled davide87 [1]gkeen316 luist yotta9111 PresuntoRJ awoodland skyred pmcgowan Petrux-ec sundowner daniel_ acr
[18:50] <jasonb> Wow, someone really doesn't like this channel.
[18:50] <FloodBot3> frogger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50] <darkham> fuck "no homeland without..."
[18:50] <dajhorn> Vic_Sage_The_Que: Don't private /msg in a channel like this.
[18:50] <jquiterio> :)
[18:50] <hsr> Dr_Willis: There?
[18:50] <gregbair> hsr, http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=81337
[18:50] <sticky> they would be better off pinging everyone
[18:50] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, /dev/sda7 is your Desktop (current) partition... oh no you use TrueCrypt
[18:51] <Stealth-> Yeah I use truecrypt for files ZykoticK9 Is that a problem D=
[18:51] <jrib> sticky: don't give them ideas -_-
[18:51] <sticky> heh
[18:51] <iplaythisgame> fresh server install of 10.4 here.    add-apt-repository: command not found    ?  Anyone seen that yet?
[18:51] <hsr> gregbair: Thank you.. i'll see that...
[18:51] <dajhorn> Vic_Sage_The_Que: If the /boot/grub files are in your Ubuntu partition, and you delete that system, the computer will become unbootable.  The computer will start into an empty grub prompt, and you won't know what to do with it.
[18:51] <hsr> iplaythisgame: What command did you type?
[18:52] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, i have no idea - but i can't assist you any further - i don't want to break whatever your encrypted filesystem is (i have no idea how it works - and simply do not help in any filesystem/encryption problem for fear of damaging that stuff)  Best of luck.
[18:52] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, I can remove the mounted files if you like?
[18:52] <Stealth-> All I use it for ZykoticK9 is password protecting folders basically
[18:52] <iplaythisgame> hsr: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-snapshot
[18:52] <Darren__> Wow I just stupidly typed / list.
[18:53] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, it's not really that - it's just i don't know the implications sorry.  good luck man - perhaps someone else knows about your issue.
[18:53] <hsr> iplaythisgame: Are you trying to use ppa backports?
[18:53] <Stealth-> Fuck
[18:53] <Vic_Sage_The_Que> ah well I am just going to rejigger the whole computer anyway
[18:53] <IdleOne> !language | Stealth-
[18:53] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, I am a newb to removing partitions and stuff. How hard is this going to be for me to do?
[18:53] <iplaythisgame> guess so   just need that resource so I can get handbrake
[18:54] <dajhorn> Vic_Sage_The_Que: Everybody breaks their boot loader at some time or another.  Perhaps your time is now.   Keep a Live CD handy for recovery.,
[18:54] <dt_> is there a way to have alltray dock an item and then remove the dock icon ?
[18:54] <hsr> iplaythisgame: Did you try going into software source and editting there rather using command line?
[18:54] <dajhorn> Vic_Sage_The_Que: If you intend to do a full reinstall anyways, then try practicing with /fixmbr on the Windows side.
[18:54] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, technically you have one linux and one swap partition too many right now
[18:54] <elkclone> my firewall tells me frogger was here. lol.
[18:54] <dt_> oh, -stask
[18:54] <iplaythisgame> hsr headless
[18:54] <Stealth-> ZykoticK9, What would you suggest in my position?
[18:55] <hsr> iplaythisgame: What do you mean?
[18:55] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, just repost your origional question without addressing me.
[18:55] <ClassyYap> "/usr/local/bin/dolphin-emu: error while loading shared libraries: libao.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:55] <ClassyYap> "
[18:55] <banished> G0d: hm, that seems to be a bug, what kind of laptop are you using?
[18:55] <iplaythisgame> hsr  not sure of the syntax is I need to add that to the sources.list from command line
[18:55] <Stealth-> Ahh ok ZykoticK9, should I add that I am using truecrypt?
[18:55] <hsr> iplaythisgame: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[18:55] <dajhorn> ClassyYap: Learn how to use the `apt-file` program.   It is very helpful for manually installing dependencies for 3rd party software.
[18:56] <banished> G0d: there are several reports about this, some say a bios update fixed it
[18:56] <ZykoticK9> Stealth-, lol well i think everyone probably knows
[18:56] <iplaythisgame> hsr   nm I found the rest of the ppa info  thanks
[18:56] <Stealth-> Lol ZykoticK9, True
[18:56] <Stealth-> Anyway, thanks for your help mate
[18:56] <ClassyYap> apt-file is not installed
[18:56] <ClassyYap> do i need it
[18:56] <ClassyYap> i have apt-get
[18:56] <jrib> ClassyYap: only if you want it for some reason
[18:56] <dajhorn> ClassyYap: Yes, you need to install it.  apt-file is telling me that libao.so is provided by the libao2 package.
[18:57] <hsr> iplaythisgame: Wels
[18:57] <jrib> ClassyYap: anyway, you realize your program is being run from /usr/local which means it was not installed through the repositories?
[18:57] <owen1> what's the console package that let u manage the services of your machine?
[18:57] <ClassyYap> the Dolphin program just came with a folder with all the stuff
[18:58] <ClassyYap> i don't know how to install
[18:58] <owen1> it has ncurses interface for remove/add apps from running on boot
[18:58] <ZykoticK9> ClassyYap, is dolphin-emu a 32 or 64 bit application?  "file /usr/local/bin/dolphin-emu" if you aren't sure.
[18:58] <dajhorn> owen1: `service` at the command prompt.
[18:58] <jrib> ClassyYap: why aren't you using APT?
[18:58] <ClassyYap> 64 bit
[18:58] <ClassyYap> apt has dolphin?
[18:58] <jrib> !info dolphin | ClassyYap
[18:58] <ZykoticK9> jrib, differend dolphin i believe
[18:58] <dajhorn> jrib: Dolphin is a video game emulator.
[18:58] <DarsVaeda> hi, can someone recommend a equalizer, i need to put my bass channel down, cause its much to load
[18:58] <owen1> dajhorn: will service let me cancel app from running at boot?
[18:58] <shirtless> My ubuntu updates just hung at Generating grub.cfg. What should I do to prevent breaking my system?
[18:58] <jrib> dajhorn: ah
[18:58] <G0d> banished: could you please link me where you got that information
[18:58] <ClassyYap> that Dolphin is a FILE MANAGER. my Dolphin is a GC/WII emulator
[18:59] <owen1> dajhorn: i want a list of all apps running at boot, and controlling it
[18:59] <dajhorn> owen1: Uninstall it if possible.  Otherwise edit the /etc/init file for the service.
[18:59] <jrib> dajhorn: read dolhpin's documentation/readme I suppose
[18:59] <ClassyYap> they have none it seems :(
[18:59] <Stealth-> Right people. My problem is I am triple booting. I am using Ubuntu, Windows 7, and Ubuntu Netbook Remix. I want to remove Ubuntu Netbook Remix using gparted bbut I dont know how. I am also using truecrypt, and someone in here said that could mess it up
[18:59] <Stealth-> Anyone here able to help me
[18:59] <jrib> Stealth-: why do you want to remove it?  What will you do with its partition?
[18:59] <banished> G0d: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328087#c7
[19:00] <dajhorn> owen1: You need to read the upstart documentation to get the startup dependency information.
[19:00] <soreau> ClassyYap: dolphin uses the scons build system. Install scons, then run it in your terminal from the dolphin source dir
[19:00] <spitzi> H, disconnected so I'll ask again: I had Ubuntu on one partition and installed Vista on another partition. Vista took over the boot and doesn't recognize Ubuntu. How can I configure a boot menu that features both OS's ?
[19:00] <hsr> gregbair: Thank you for the link
[19:00] <G0d> banished: Ill try updating the BIOs. Thanks for your help.
[19:00] <dajhorn> owen1:  `upstart` is the program in Ubuntu Lucid that is responsible for running services and daemons.
[19:00] <Stealth-> Jrib, I wish to remove Ubuntu netbook remix, so I am only dual booting
[19:00] <soreau> ClassyYap: Its probably easier to install a deb than compiling it if that is an option
[19:00] <gregbair> hsr, no prob
[19:00] <shirtless> spitzi: boot into ubuntu using the cd and install grub
[19:00] <jrib> Stealth-: why do you want to remove it?  What will you do with its partition?
[19:00] <Stealth-> and i have more free space and the option to try other linuz distros
[19:01] <dajhorn> Stealth-: Looking at the fstab/mount information that you posted earlier...  You're going to hose your encrypted filesystem.   Backup and restore.
[19:01] <Stealth-> dajhorn, I have 1 folder encrypted
[19:01] <joeelmex> hey guys ne1 have some time to help me out with a driver?
[19:01] <spitzi> shirtless - Should the live CD allow me to boot into ubuntu ? Thought it only allows installing the OS.
[19:01] <Stealth-> dajhorn what do you mean?
[19:01] <ZykoticK9> dajhorn, LOL - that's what i was worried about... glad i backed off!  thanks.
[19:02] <jrib> ClassyYap: http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/wiki/DolphinUbuntuPackages
[19:02] <shirtless> spitzi: it will allow you to boot into ubuntu, yes. that's why it's 'live'
[19:02] <Stealth-> Lol ZykoticK9 why do I get the feeling doing what you are talking about is very very nasty
[19:02] <dajhorn> Stealth-: You should do distro testing inside VirtualBox or VMware.   Doing remounts and repartitioning with crypto is an exercise in masochism.
[19:02] <shirtless> spitzi: grub install info is on the ubuntu website
[19:02] <divecks> Hey guys, i've just done a total clean reinstall and upgraded to the very latest (like 1 week old) ATI drivers. However, plymouth looks awful. It shows, but it is not NEARLY my native 1920x1200 resolution. Everything works fine outside of this. So is there a way to manually change plymouth's resolution setting? Oh, and this isn
[19:02] <Kuehlschrank> hi
[19:02] <spitzi> shirtless - oh, you mean it will not load the already installed Ubuntu but boot from CD. How do I install grub then ?
[19:02] <Stealth-> dajhorn, cant I just unmount my encrypted folder?
[19:02] <divecks> 't related to the new driver, it's been hapening since before that one. Thanks!!!
[19:03] <ubuntufreak> Gwibber doesn't update the timelines even after authorizing it with the latest install from the ppa in my Ubuntu 10.04 any help ?
[19:03] <joeelmex> guys can someone try to make this file and see what happens please
[19:03] <dajhorn> Stealth-: You're missing the point.   People here are reluctant to help you because you're asking for help doing something dangerous and advanced.
[19:03] <shirtless> spitzi: you don't need to be booted into your ubuntu install to install grub. just boot from cd and google for ubuntu grub install. it's like 3 easy steps
[19:03] <shirtless> you might want to search grub2 instead
[19:03] <random-jellyfish> how do i stop sudo from asking for my password everytime i do a sudo command?
[19:03] <shirtless> because things have changed
[19:03] <joeelmex> i get an error bout wrong folder path
[19:03] <shirtless> it will probably detect windows for you.
[19:03] <jrib> joeelmex: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[19:03] <Stealth-> dajhorn, I am a beginner ubuntu newbie, but I would really like to remove this partition.
[19:03] <Stealth-> Thanks anyway tho
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> divecks, personally my Plymouth resolution is terrible with nvidia proprietary drive (i just view it as a cost of using propritary, but it only lasts a few seconds)
[19:04] <spitzi> shirtless - thanks ! And are you actually shirtless ? Are you Australian ?
[19:04] <divecks> ZykoticK9, Yes that is the reality that I've come to face too.. What a total bummer though..
[19:04] <Kuehlschrank> How do I change the group permissions of an sftp-group to read-write-exec only on its /var/www (home-dir)?
[19:04] <VCoolio> random-jellyfish: that is a security risk, but you can add NOPASSWD for your user in the sudoers file (sudo visudo), read 'man sudo' I guess
[19:04] <shirtless> spitzi: i am from the US, but I am not wearing a shirt. Can you clue me in on the australian part?
[19:04] <ZykoticK9> random-jellyfish, it's designed like that for a reason - you're talking about breaking all security basically, really not a good idea
[19:04] <spitzi> shirtless: thought it's an Aussi thing.
[19:05] <shirtless> heh
[19:05] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: do you wish to make the group own /var/www?  Does it already?
[19:05] <joeelmex> WHen i try to make this driver at  ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/rport_infinity...ux-1.16.tar.gz   IT gives me an error right away of being in the wrong path I am sure I got something wrong
[19:05] <Kuehlschrank> (just like a bit of an chmod-substitute)
[19:05] <joeelmex> can ne1 take a look at it please
[19:05] <jrib> !permissions > Kuehlschrank
[19:05] <jrib> joeelmex: your link is broken
[19:06] <random-jellyfish> yeah but it's annoying...since i'm the only one using this comp
[19:06] <Kuehlschrank> I did this here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94
[19:06] <joeelmex> ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/rport_infinity/drivers/linux/rocketport_infinity_express-linux-1.16.tar.gz
[19:06] <joeelmex> sorry correct link now
[19:06] <velociostrich> anyone know the _correct_ way to set the console (i.e., Ctrl+Alt+F1-6) resolution with grub2? I know /boot/grub/grub.cfg isn't supposed to be edited, and I looked at /etc/grub/10_linux and I see the part where it prints 'set gfxpayload=$GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX' to the configuration, but how do I determine what $GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX is?
[19:07] <undecim> velociostrich: /etc/default/grub
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> velociostrich:  after the system is booted you could use the fbset command.
[19:07] <spitzi> shirtless - I'm too lazy to go over search results in ubuntu.com. Can you give me a link to the grub install info page ?
[19:07] <velociostrich> undecim: ooooohhhhhhh! thanks!
[19:07] <bobbytek> Is there a way I can load ubuntu inside windows 7?
[19:07] <undecim> bobbytek: VirtualBox
[19:07] <velociostrich> Dr_Willis: you mean at grub's console or under linux?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> bobbytek: yes, but
[19:08] <bobbytek> such that it can be updated and share the same file system?
[19:08] <Stealth-> dajhorn, I am planning on posting my problem on the ubuntu forums. Can you sum up the problem with truecrypt so I can ask them please?
[19:08] <shirtless> spitzi: sure, 1 sec
[19:08] <sebsebseb> bobbytek: ideally Windows should be inside a more secure OS, not the other way round :)
[19:08] <joeelmex> bobbytek use virtualbox program to do that
[19:08] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: Please (just) tell me how to change the file and dir-permissions to read-write-exec to /var/www only
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> velociostrich:  i never noticed grub affecting the framebuffer at all.. there are framebuffer specific commands you can use.. grub dosent affect them
[19:08] <velociostrich> shirtless: that sounds like a good time to use lmgtfy :)
[19:08] <bobbytek> thanks guys
[19:08] <undecim> bobbytek: It can't share the same filesystem, but there will be a file in Windows that can grow as space is needed
[19:08] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: I can't help you if you don't answer questions.
[19:08] <lousygarua> A few days ago the power went down and since then my laptop's battery is constantly charging and 'stuck' on 98.9% charge rate. any ideas? did the battery die?
[19:08] <sebsebseb> !google > velociostrich
[19:08] <shirtless> spitzi: i am going to pm you the link
[19:08] <Kuehlschrank> jrib:  I didn't get it
[19:08] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: do you wish to make the group own /var/www?  Does it already?
[19:08] <bobbytek> undecim, not even a dedicated partition?
[19:09] <shirtless> spitzi: ;)
[19:09] <velociostrich> sebsebseb: I was just kiddin'
[19:09] <Kuehlschrank> jrib:  The bot showed me a link
[19:09] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: that's fine, I repeated my questions
[19:10] <undecim> bobbytek: That wouldn't be sharing the same filesystem
[19:10] <Stealth-> jrib, I am planning on posting my problem on the ubuntu forums. Can you sum up the problem with truecrypt so I can ask them please?
[19:10] <velociostrich> Dr_Willis: makes sense
[19:10] <undecim> bobbytek: You can give Ubuntu a dedicated partition if you want and run it in VirtualBox from there
[19:10] <dajhorn> Stealth-: Just ask your question there.  From my perspective,  you need to learn how to convert Linux names like "sda7" into Windows partition letters.
[19:10] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: Change to ----rwx--- I think
[19:10] <Gintulis> hi, after this day update, i cant open eny archive, iso files: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[19:10] <jrib> Stealth-: no idea, this is the first time I see you say "truecrypt"
[19:10] <pkkm> How to record a DVD with menu and subtitles from an .avi file and .txt file?
[19:10] <Stealth-> Ok dajhorn and jrib
[19:10] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: still not my question.
[19:10] <Stealth-> Thanks anyway
[19:10] <bobbytek> undecim, my goals are to have a developer setup so that I can do work in ubuntu, but then quickly switch back to win 7
[19:10] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: :-(
[19:11] <bobbytek> perhaps that is my best bet
[19:11] <joeelmex> I been trying to make this file for a driver located here   ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/rport_infinity/drivers/linux/rocketport_infinity_express-linux-1.16.tar.gz  I have not been able to figure it out.  I have edit the makefile and see if i find the problem but no luck can ne1 help
[19:11] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: just answer my question...
[19:11] <undecim> bobbytek: Which do you use more? Win7 or Ubuntu?
[19:11] <dajhorn> bobbytek: Unless you're doing kernel development, run one of the platforms in a virtual machine.   Try Virtual Box and VMware.
[19:11] <Kuehlschrank> jrib:  Well these permission manage the access to files and dirs and they can be manipulated with e.g. chmod
[19:11] <bobbytek> undecim, right now ubuntu
[19:12] <spvensko> hi, is there an easy way to print a line from a file that contains some string of characters?
[19:12] <bobbytek> but I plan to use win 7 more (new computer)
[19:12] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: good luck with your issue, I can't help you like this
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  awk, grep, sed, perhaps.. or a combo of the 3
[19:12] <Kuehlschrank> jrib:  ? (sorry)
[19:12] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: did you read my questions?
[19:12] <undecim> bobbytek: VirtualBox runs on Windows and Linux, so you can do it either way
[19:12] <Kuehlschrank> oh
[19:13] <Kuehlschrank> sorry the bot messed my brain completly up -.-
[19:13] <erUSUL> spvensko: grep string file
[19:13] <spvensko> Dr_Willis: and erUSUL ty!
[19:13] <bobbytek> undecim, how is the memory footprint?
[19:14] <undecim> bobbytek: Depends how much memory you want to give the VM.
[19:14] <Kyle__> I'm having a login issue on 10.04.  Users have to type their password twice in GDM to log in.  No problem watsoever for console.
[19:15] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: I created an sftp-group named 'andres' and an user (also named andres)
[19:15] <noolness> undecim, virtualbox is really good and performs really well. it even has 3d support that works for opengl and compiz. it is very close to running things native. i am running virtualbox right now, using it for irc, web browsing and a few other things
[19:15] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: I did this by following: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94
[19:15] <undecim> bobbytek: You may want to look up your processor and make sure hardware virtualization is available
[19:15] <bobbytek> undecim, thanks for your help!
[19:15] <Kyle__> bobbytek: I'd stick with ubuntu or another linux on the box, and run windows7 in VBox.  It's quite stable.
[19:15] <bobbytek> i7
[19:16] <velociostrich> how do I know what device to pass to grub-install? is there a default for installation or was I prompted and I just forgot?
[19:16] <undecim> bobbytek: Okay, I think all i7 have hardware virtualization.
[19:16] <noolness> undecim, my vm of ubuntu is set to run with 512 megs of memory and it runs great
[19:16] <velociostrich> moreover, do I specify just the drive or a specific partition?
[19:16] <bobbytek> I have 6GB of mem
[19:17]  * Kyle__ has two VM labs for his school, all virtualbox.
[19:17] <noolness> bobbytek, yeah i have 12GB in my mac pro at home, but my work notebook is a bit more gimpy with only 4GB of ram
[19:17] <Kyle__> bobbytek: that's plenty of ram.
[19:18] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: I guess I answered your question now
[19:18] <Kyle__> Anyone have an idea about requiring password twice?
[19:18] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: no, you didn't.  Do you even know what my question is?
[19:18] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: Obviously not
[19:18] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: (for the third time) do you wish to make the group own /var/www?  Does it already?
[19:19] <Kuehlschrank> yes own var
[19:19] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: what do you mean, "yes own var"?
[19:19] <Kuehlschrank> and only rwx to v/ar/www
[19:19]  * jrib sighs
[19:19] <velociostrich> noolness: I am envious of your mac pro :)
[19:19] <progre55> hey guys, I have a file called -r and I cannot vim it :)
[19:19] <progre55> any suggestions, please?
[19:19] <Kyle__> Um.  Generally you don't want to change the permission on /var/www.  You want to change the _user_ so they are in the group that already _has_ the permissions.
[19:19] <Kuehlschrank> andres owns var/www
[19:20] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: the group "andres", correct?
[19:20] <jrib> !who | Kuehlschrank
[19:20] <Kyle__> noolness: That "desktop" mac of yours has more horsepower and memory than the servers I'm given to work with here ;)
[19:20] <Slart> Kyle__: nothing weird in the logs? like X crashing after the first login but then it works the second time.. ehm.. because the magic computer elfs have somehow gotten tired of crashing by then?
[19:20] <noolness> Kyle__, i have some servers i admin at work with 48 cores and 512GB of memory ;)
[19:21] <velociostrich> noolness: drool...
[19:21] <Kyle__> Slart: X isn't crashing.  It happens on every user.  You'd think you typed your password wrong, but you didn't.  Let me check my logs again.
[19:21] <joeelmex> Ne1 been able to take a look at the driver I am having issues with??  located at ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/rport_infinity/drivers/linux/rocketport_infinity_express-linux-1.16.tar.gz
[19:21] <dirtydevil> hey, i want to get info about my integrated webcam in laptop using command. can anyone help?
[19:21] <Kyle__> noolness: Sweeet.  At my old job we never got more than 8 cores in anything.  What procs is that running?  Sun niagras?
[19:22] <Slart> progre55: try doing some kind of completion... something like using find to select the file and then rename it (by filtering on size, dates or whatever.. anything but filename)
[19:22] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: To make it easier for you: I'll copy the commands I entered (pastebin)
[19:22] <Slart> Kyle__: never heard of gdm requiring you to enter your password twice.. very strange
[19:22] <erUSUL> dirtydevil: « lsusb » or maybe « lshw -C multimedia »
[19:23] <progre55> Slart: can you help out with the filter, please?
[19:23] <progre55> by size
[19:23] <Slart> progre55: sure.. hang on.. let me check the syntax
[19:23] <progre55> Slart: thanks
[19:23] <erUSUL> progre55: vim .7-r
[19:23] <erUSUL> progre55: vim ./-r
[19:23] <Kyle__> Slart: Humm.  I took LDAP out of this lab months ago, but I still see references about failing to bind in my current auth log.  I'm gonna check that then try again :)
[19:23] <lousygarua> A few days ago the power went down and since then my laptop's battery is constantly charging and 'stuck' on 98.9% charge rate. any ideas? did the battery die?
[19:24] <Slart> Kyle__: that might be the culprit
[19:24] <Kyle__> Slart: Heh.  You'd think it would make more of a fuss if it was trying to connect to a non-existant authentication mechenism!
[19:24] <progre55> erUSUL: oh thanks, that worked =)
[19:24] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: http://pastebin.com/6tZCfLe9
[19:25] <progre55> Slart: already renamed it =) but thanks for the quick reply man, appreciate )
[19:25] <Slart> progre55: no worries.. you're welcome
[19:25] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: fine, I'll be explicit.  What is the result of: ls -ld /var/www/
[19:26] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: A link from /var/www to 'andres' home-dir
[19:26] <erUSUL> progre55: next time « mv ./-r something_sane »
[19:26] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: ls -ld $(readlink -f /var/www)
[19:26] <Kuehlschrank> jrib:  when I use sftp now (with andres) I am in /var/www automatically
[19:27] <progre55> erUSUL: yeah, that what I did, "mv ./-r rrrr" =)
[19:27] <kenthree> I want to start a php-cli script on boot, I added the command to autostarted apps and it works. But I want it to run in a terminal rather than in the background- help
[19:28] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: ls -ld /var/www/ shows up this: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep  3 19:32 /var/www
[19:28] <jrib> kenthree: do you really want it to open up a terminal?  You don't want to just use screen?
[19:28] <erUSUL> kenthree: run « gnome-terminal -e "php_script_here" » ?
[19:28] <kenthree> jrib: it's a desktop environment
[19:28] <kenthree> and i'll try thanks ersu
[19:29] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: great.  Now what exactly do you want to do?
[19:29] <shirtless> kenthree: why don't you just start it on boot and log all stdout/stderr to a file.
[19:29] <lousygarua> Where do I add bash aliases? ~/.bash_profile?
[19:29] <shirtless> kenthree: that way you can just do tail -f logfile
[19:29] <shirtless> and watch it like that.
[19:29] <dnp> join #physics
[19:29] <jrib> lousygarua: that's one place
[19:29] <erUSUL> lousygarua: ~/.bashrc
[19:29] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: I actually wanted to chroot andres to /var/www but I think this is to complicated
[19:30] <lousygarua> jrib erUSUL would i need to relogin after i edit the file? or reopen the terminal?
[19:30] <bastidrazor> lousygarua: sourece ~/.bashrc
[19:30] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: you have a knack for not answering questions, it's a bit frustrating :)
[19:30] <bastidrazor> source .. rather
[19:30] <Kuehlschrank> jrib:  I think it would be better if I would only chown /var/www to andres
[19:30] <lousygarua> bastidrazor, thanks :)
[19:30] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: ok, do that
[19:30] <erUSUL> lousygarua: depends on the file you choose to edit. with bashrc reopening the terminal is enough. althought you can allways source it no restar needed
[19:30] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: and grant andres only permissions to /var/www
[19:31] <lousygarua> erUSUL, bash_profile is pasred when i login to the system and bashrc is read when i open a terminal? or smt like that
[19:32] <erUSUL> lousygarua: correct. but profile sources bashrc in debian/ubuntu ( and probably most distros)
[19:32] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: But how do I change the permissions to rwx to /var/www _only_
[19:32] <lousygarua> erUSUL, you mean bash_profile or another file?
[19:33] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: first off "permissions to rwx" is too vague.  Permissions apply to owner, group, or others
[19:33] <erUSUL> lousygarua:  ~/.profile is what you get in modern ubuntu
[19:33] <erUSUL> lousygarua: form /etc/skel
[19:33] <erUSUL> from*
[19:34] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: 'andres' shall only be the owner of /var/www and shall not be able to change anything else
[19:34] <jrib> impossible
[19:34] <lousygarua> erUSUL, i didn't quite understand but that's ok for now, i'm going now anyway. thanks for the help!
[19:34] <erUSUL> ciao
[19:34] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: only with chroot, right?
[19:34] <sphenxes> where i can change the default for grub? vi /boot/grub/ menu.lst doesn't work. where is grub default
[19:35] <erUSUL> !grub2 | sphenxes
[19:35] <joeelmex> Ne1 want to take a peek at this ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/rport_infinity/drivers/linux/rocketport_infinity_express-linux-1.16.tar.gz and see if you get the saem thing
[19:35] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: yeah, google "chroot jail"
[19:35] <sphenxes> ubottu, erUSUL thanks
[19:35] <erUSUL> sphenxes: no problem.
[19:36] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: If my sftp-user 'andres' would get cracked the cracker would have access to all other files
[19:36] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: so?
[19:36] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: I want to prevent this. So chroot is the only way to do this?
[19:37] <jrib> Kuehlschrank: yes though, in theory that user shouldn't be able to do anything harmful other than mess with the files that user owns (of course there do exist kernel vulnerabilities)
[19:37] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: When I would use chroot you mean
[19:38] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: ? :-)
[19:38] <johnjohnevan> First time install on hd seemed okay.  After reboot checked to see if Windows still worked. It did some file and directory checking and after another reboot windows worked. But when starting up get ubuntu is running in low graphics mode So I look at startup file and see xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor. Tried to load from CD now. Looks fine. Maybe Windows messed it up and I should reinstall?
[19:38] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: Thanks for your help and for your patience
[19:38] <blendmaster1024> how would I remove a few files and create a few files in an already-made ISO file?
[19:38] <blendmaster1024> it needs to remain bootable
[19:39] <shirtless> you need to mount the iso, copy the files to a writeable filesystem, do your work, and recreate the iso
[19:39] <shirtless> you can use mount and mkisofs to do it
[19:39] <Kuehlschrank> jrib: And I apologize for being stupid and not reading well enough
[19:39] <shirtless> mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /mnt/iso
[19:39] <BiggFREE> Why do I need a valid email for posting in Ubuntu Forum ?
[19:40] <addisonj> Kuehlschrank, what you want is normally refereed to as a chroot jail
[19:40] <Kuehlschrank> addisonj: ok
[19:40] <Kuehlschrank> addisonj: thanks, too :-)
[19:40] <blendmaster1024> shirtless: this is a bootable CD. how would I preserve that data?
[19:40] <addisonj> there are lots of good guides,
[19:41] <joeelmex> there are no guides for me need help and see if ya get the same result as me ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/rport_infinity/drivers/linux/rocketport_infinity_express-linux-1.16.tar.gz   see if you can make this driver
[19:41] <BiggFREE> Why do I need a valid email for posting in Ubuntu Forum ? I have good information but I do not master english language.
[19:41] <erUSUL> BiggFREE: to avoid spam .
[19:41] <jrib> BiggFREE: #ubuntuforums
[19:41] <erUSUL> !forums
[19:41] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialCDBurn.html  ctrl +f bootable, there are flags to mkisofs for it
[19:41] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: probably also in man mkisofs
[19:42] <BiggFREE> Ok Thanks :)
[19:42] <erUSUL> genisoimage
[19:43] <Stealth-> Right, I think I have figured a way to safely remove the partition. The question is, how do I find what partition Ubuntu Netbook Remix is on?
[19:43] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: your boot image is probably /boot/vmlinuz* something
[19:43] <addisonj> Kuehlschrank, how are your client connecting?
[19:43] <shirtless> or maybe even a bzImage.
[19:43] <pkkm> What repository is Free Orion game in?
[19:43] <blendmaster1024> shirtless: this is not a linux cd
[19:43] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: then you hopefully know what your boot image is.
[19:43] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: because I don't.
[19:43] <blendmaster1024> nope. no idea.
[19:43] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: what kind of CD is it? Windows?
[19:43] <shirtless> mac?
[19:44] <Kuehlschrank> addisonj: I created a user and want him to have an chroot env on /var/www for sftp use
[19:44] <blendmaster1024> shirtless: windows, I'm trying to change the drivers on it so I can install to a usb drive. however, I need to preserve bootability (of course)
[19:45] <addisonj> Kuehlschrank, ssh versions newer than 4.3 support a chroot environment, or you can use rssh, which is essentially a shell that limits them jsut to sftp
[19:45] <el_seano> Having some issue with my wireless driver being unactivated when I boot my laptop.  Have to select to remove it from NM and then add it again in order to get it to recognize wireless.  I've been searching around the manuals trying to find out if a config file exists or if I can use the CLI to start it with not much luck so far.
[19:45] <Kuehlschrank> addisonj: I use  OpenSSH 4.7p1 Debian 8ubuntu1.2 (protocol 2.0)
[19:45] <el_seano> The wireless card is a Broadcom-4312, and I'm using the b43 driver.
[19:46] <Stealth-> Right, I think I have figured a way to safely remove the partition. The question is, how do I find what partition Ubuntu Netbook Remix is on?
[19:46] <Knat> can someone tell me which source I need to add to apt to install, sun-java6-sdk
[19:46] <Stealth-> anyone able to help?
[19:46] <froggyman> How can I share my programs so that every user can use the ones I have installed?
[19:46] <erUSUL> !partner  | Knat
[19:46] <el_seano> froggyman: I thnk it might just be a matter of changing the permissions on the binary for the programs in question.
[19:46] <erUSUL> froggyman: the progrmas you install via softwar center; aptitude; synaptic etc are aviable to all users
[19:47] <el_seano> check out 'man chmod'
[19:47] <erUSUL> el_seano: maybe you just need to put « ifconfig wlan0 up » in /etc/rc.local
[19:47] <froggyman> hmm.. I thought some weren't showing up though...
[19:47] <Stealth-> I am wanting to remov the ubuntu Netbook Remix partition on my harddrive. How do I find what partition its on and delete it. i am using windows 7, ubuntu desktop, and ubuntu netbook remix
[19:47] <Stealth-> Anyone able to help?
[19:47] <el_seano> erUSUL: I'll give a try, brb.
[19:48] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: running the strings command on the iso file might reveal some of the metadata
[19:48] <bofh80> hi all, just wondering if anyone knows a GUI program for burning to multiple (2) dvd drives at once. ? :)
[19:48] <shirtless> blendmaster1024: after trying it on a freebsd iso i got some good info
[19:48] <addisonj> Kuehlschrank, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[19:48] <DanaG> ARgh, the package manager is so screwed up... I'm trying to remove apturl and ubufox, and it's telling me I can't remove apturl because ubufox depends on it!
[19:49] <DanaG> I tell it, fine, remove ubufox... nope, it still complains about apturl!
[19:49] <addisonj> DanaG, there is a force remove for such situations
[19:50] <addisonj> Kuehlschrank, better yet http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451510
[19:50] <reig> I'm trying to test the new beta version of ubuntu but at boot time error messages just flash on the screen and then it goes blank. How can I get those messages?
[19:50] <froggyman> the programs I have installed via Wine don't show up for all users
[19:51] <ZykoticK9> reig, #ubuntu+1 for beta/Maverick issues
[19:51] <reig> ok, thanks for the pointer
[19:52] <Stealth-> I am wanting to remov the ubuntu Netbook Remix partition on my harddrive. How do I find what partition its on and delete it. i am using windows 7, ubuntu desktop, and ubuntu netbook remix
[19:52] <laughter> i'm about to get a new external hdd and I was wondering what backup utility would be best to use in ubuntu 10.04.1
[19:52] <shirtless> Stealth-: boot into netbook remix and then type mount into a terminal to see the partitions, write them down
[19:52] <laughter> ?
[19:53] <shirtless> Stealth-: reboot from a livecd and run cfdisk
[19:53] <shirtless> delete the remix partitions and replace them with regular ext4 partitions and just use them for data or something
[19:53] <Stealth-> Shirtless, I am in Ubuntu now, I can do it from here?
[19:53] <Stealth-> Not netbook remix but ubuntu
[19:53] <shirtless> Stealth-: use cfdisk to see the partitions, try to quess the netbook remix one, mount it, it may already be mounted, and look at the /etc/fstab file
[19:53] <shirtless> Stealth-: then you'll see what partitions it's using
[19:54] <Stealth-> Can I pastebin to you the output of Mount?
[19:54] <shirtless> Stealth-: livecd, reboot,cfdisk, delete, create, mke2fs, add to /etc/fstab
[19:54] <shirtless> Stealth-: paste me mount and fdisk p
[19:54] <Stealth-> Ok
[19:54] <shirtless> how many drives you have?
[19:54] <Stealth-> Just the one mate
[19:55] <Stealth-> shirtless, I get Unable to open p when i try to use that command :S
[19:55] <shirtless> sudo fdisk
[19:56] <shirtless> /dev/sdX
[19:56] <shirtless> then type 'p'
[19:56] <Stealth-> Ok, gimme a min
[19:56] <Stealth-> And heres the output of mount
[19:56] <Stealth-> http://pastebin.com/K7B5f0SS
[19:56] <guntbert> shirtless: wouldn't sudo fdisk -l be easier?
[19:57] <shirtless> guntbert: i didn't know about that, thanks
[19:57] <shirtless> Stealth-: what is on /media/5e8d*
[19:57] <shirtless> is that your ubuntu remix?
[19:57] <guntbert> shirtless: :)
[19:57] <Stealth-> Not sure shirtless
[19:57] <shirtless> look in there
[19:57] <shirtless> see what it is
[19:57] <Stealth-> How tho shirtless, i am slightly confused mate
[19:57] <_Tristan> how might I make a script run when my computer connects to a wireless network?
[19:58] <DanaG> Oh, i SEE... it was firefox recommending, and aptitude enforcing recommends.
[19:58] <shirtless> Stealth-: open a terminal and type ls /media/5e8d*
[19:58] <Stealth-> Oh, and I am running TrueCrypt, but nothings mounted at the moment, someone said that could make things more complicated, and shirtless on it now
[19:58] <DanaG> Uncaught exception: solution_item.cc:216: virtual bool solution_act_item::is_rejected(): Assertion "resman->resolver_exists()" failed.
[19:58] <DanaG> stupid aptitude.
[19:58] <duffydack> Tristam, man interfaces
[19:58] <shirtless> truecrypt would be complicated if you wanted to resize partitions, i have no idea waht is up with that because I don't use it, because my computer doesn't need that kind of security
[19:59] <shirtless> just delete remix and make a partition that you can dump files on or something
[19:59] <shirtless> don't worry about resizing anything
[19:59] <shirtless> it's risky anyway
[19:59] <Stealth-> IOk then mate
[19:59] <Stealth-> I just want to delete the partition
[19:59] <shirtless> yeah
[19:59] <shirtless> maybe let windows create a new one
[19:59] <Stealth-> And pastebinning the results of the command you gave me now
[19:59] <shirtless> because that way you can share it
[20:00] <Stealth-> http://pastebin.com/vJkgBhmG
[20:00] <shirtless> Stealth-: it's definitely a linux distro, but lets hope you don't just have regular ubuntu mounted twice..
[20:00] <Besogon> How could I know that in the kernel I have (I have Desktop Ubuntu 10.04.1) was included Linux Packet Filter?
[20:01] <Stealth-> Shirtless, when i get to boot options, it gives me 3 options to boot ubuntu netbook remix
[20:01] <shirtless> compare the results of ls -asl / and ls -asl /media/5e8d* and make sure the timestamps etc are not the same
[20:01] <Stealth-> Just throwing that out incase its inportant
[20:01] <shirtless> Stealth-: oh. derp
[20:01] <Stealth-> And ok shirtless doing it now
[20:01] <shirtless> Stealth-: look at the grub configs
[20:01] <Stealth-> Hmm shirtless?
[20:01] <shirtless> Stealth-: the grub config files will have the answer to which is which
[20:01] <Stealth-> Ahh nice
[20:01] <Stealth-> How do i access them
[20:02] <shirtless> paste me /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:02] <shirtless> actually, you might be able to just look at it yourself and be ok
[20:02] <Stealth-> bash: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: Permission denied
[20:02] <shirtless> do it as root
[20:02] <Stealth-> Its not letting me do that
[20:02] <Stealth-> Ahh ok
[20:02] <shirtless> you should also use cat
[20:03] <shirtless> not try to run it
[20:03] <magnetron> hi, are there any software for reading SIM cards (GSM/UMTS)? i have a SIM card reader connected via USB.
[20:03] <Stealth-> Huh
[20:03] <Stealth-> shirtless how do i run it as root
[20:03] <shirtless> sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:04] <strange> is there a way to force resolution because it doesnt detect my 26" screen properly and puts it to 640x480 can i force it to 1980x1200 some way?
[20:05] <Stealth-> shirtless http://pastebin.com/FkmZAAAv
[20:05] <crazygir> hiya! last night I hooked up a 24in samsung lcd to my IBM thinkpad (running 10.4).. and flawlessly used the special keys to switch the vgs output to the screen only.. resolution was even updated appropriately. I ran a set of updates (didn't follow which, everything looked reasonable), rebooted, and have never been able to get the vga output back to the lcd's native resolution
[20:05] <magnetron> strange: yes
[20:06] <shirtless> Stealth-: I need you to type uname -a and send that into the channel.
[20:06] <magnetron> !resolution | strange
[20:06] <Stealth-> Linux Stealth 2.6.32-24-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 19 01:12:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:06] <Stealth-> Thats what i get shirtless
[20:07] <shirtless> looks like netbook  is on /dev/sda4
[20:07] <Stealth-> how sure are you its safe to delete shirtless
[20:07] <shirtless> you should confirm that by mounting /dev/sda4 and exploring it to make sure its netbook
[20:07] <Stealth-> how do I mount it?
[20:07] <shirtless> and then once you're sure because you see your files in there
[20:07] <shirtless> mkdir ~/netbook
[20:07] <shirtless> sudo mount /dev/sda4 ~/netbook
[20:08] <Stealth-> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[20:08] <shirtless> once you're sure, delete it with cfdisk, preferably from a livecd so you can re-read the partition table and stuff
[20:08] <Stealth-> is what i get
[20:08] <shirtless> -t ext4
[20:08] <gfi> Anyone know how to use a DV webcam (1394) with Skype on Lucid? TIA
[20:08] <Stealth-> command not found
[20:08] <shirtless> do you know the name of your hard drive's device?
[20:08] <shirtless> is it /dev/sda?
[20:08] <Stealth-> yeh
[20:08] <Stealth-> yeah
[20:09] <shirtless> ok, well sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda4 ~/netbook should work.
[20:09] <shirtless> oh
[20:09] <shirtless> derp
[20:09] <shirtless> its sda6
[20:09] <Stealth-> -t ext4 /dev/sda4 ~/netbook
[20:09] <Stealth-> -t: command not found
[20:09] <shirtless> I just had a math fail
[20:09] <Stealth-> Lol shirtless
[20:09] <shirtless> here is the exact command
[20:09] <Stealth-> Only person failing here is me
[20:09] <laughter> i'm about to get a new external hdd and I was wondering what backup utility would be best to use in ubuntu 10.04.1?? any reccomendations?
[20:09] <shirtless> sudo mount /dev/sda6 ~/netbook
[20:10] <shirtless> if you made the ~/netbook dir already
[20:10] <shirtless> I hope
[20:10] <gfi> laughter, try Deja Dup
[20:10] <sebsebseb> !backup | laughter
[20:10] <Stealth->  sudo mount /dev/sda6 ~/netbook
[20:10] <Stealth-> /dev/sda6 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[20:10] <Stealth-> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[20:10] <shirtless> arg
[20:10] <Stealth-> Yeah
[20:11] <shirtless> I totally forgot the way grub maps stuff because i am pampered by ubuntu now
[20:11] <switchgirl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/487964/ :/ why was this not auth'd?
[20:11] <shirtless> i'll look at my file and clear it up
[20:11] <Stealth-> shirtless, I got a photo to show you, gimme 2 mins
[20:12] <crazygir> part of my problem is that "supported" resolutions now don't render correctly
[20:12] <shirtless> Stealth-: ok, I was being dumb
[20:13] <shirtless> netbook should be on /dev/sda5
[20:13] <shirtless> mount that one
[20:13] <crazygir> so, for example.. the lcd wants to go to 1920x1200, ubuntu seems to work that out, but the lcd displays garbage
[20:13] <shirtless> and see if it's netbook
[20:13] <crazygir> what should I do?
[20:13] <crazygir> I would just like to be able to plug in this lcd, switch over to it, and carry on with my work
[20:13] <Stealth-> Ok shirtless
[20:14] <Stealth-> I press enter and it goes onto a new line shirtless
[20:14] <shirtless> that means it probably worked.
[20:14] <shirtless> cd ~/netbook/home/yourusername
[20:14] <shirtless> ls
[20:14] <Stealth-> oh and shirtless, here is my view in gparted
[20:14] <Stealth-> http://i54.tinypic.com/6r6is2.png
[20:14] <shirtless> is that what you had on your netbook?
[20:15] <Stealth-> this is what i get when opening gparted shirtless
[20:15] <crazygir> :(
[20:15] <shirtless> i think it's probably sda5
[20:15] <crazygir> should I be asking these questions elsewhere?
[20:15] <shirtless> but I don't want to tell you to delete it until you can be sure
[20:15] <shirtless> so you should inspect the files yourself
[20:15] <shirtless> in /media/5e8d*
[20:15] <Stealth-> when I try doing that shirtless, it says no such file or directory
[20:15] <shirtless> look in your home directory
[20:15] <shirtless> er
[20:16] <shirtless> see your pic? see the /media directory path next to /dev/sda5? go there
[20:16] <shirtless> then go to your homedir
[20:16] <shirtless> and check the files out
[20:16] <Stealth-> where abouts shirtless
[20:16] <tracy69> good evening
[20:16] <shirtless> see if it is your netbook install or not
[20:16] <Stealth-> ??
[20:16] <Stealth-> how do i do it?
[20:16] <shirtless> use nautilus if you want
[20:16] <undifined> switchgirl, what do you mean ? it's a huge changelog
[20:16] <Stealth-> I meen
[20:16] <shirtless> go to Computer->media->etc...
[20:16] <Stealth-> Ahh
[20:17] <Stealth-> Sorry shirtless, but I got no idea in hell how to open this media directory
[20:17] <shirtless> You should be able to click into it from the computer in nautilus
[20:17] <switchgirl> undifined: it was headers that was not authed :/
[20:17] <shirtless> if not you can do mkdir ~/mountme and sudo mount /dev/sda5 ~/mountme
[20:18] <shirtless> then look in ~/mountme
[20:18] <shirtless> ~ is an alias for your homedir
[20:18] <Stealth-> ok
[20:19] <Stealth-> When I ran those commands shirtless
[20:19] <undifined> switchgirl, people choose to (in/ex)clude case by case anything specfic you need ?
[20:19] <Stealth-> I get 14gig filesystem come up again
[20:19] <Stealth-> lemme screenshot
[20:20] <switchgirl> im slightly "tired" i need to sleep bbl
[20:20] <switchgirl> i have been "tiring" in the pub
[20:20] <undifined> switchgirl, make bed
[20:20] <switchgirl> no
[20:20] <crazygir> hah
[20:20] <Stealth-> http://i56.tinypic.com/15xwqx4.png
[20:20] <switchgirl> sudo make bed
[20:20] <Stealth-> There you go shirtless
[20:21] <shirtless> click home inside there
[20:21] <shirtless> and then click your username
[20:21] <shirtless> and tell me if you recognize that as your netbook install
[20:21] <Stealth-> Ok
[20:21] <shirtless> because I have not used netbook, I can't think of any files on a netbook  install that uniquify it
[20:21] <Stealth-> yes!
[20:21] <shirtless> ok
[20:21] <Stealth-> It is the same files
[20:21] <shirtless> sudo umount /dev/sda5
[20:21] <Stealth-> Basically nothing but a single download
[20:21] <shirtless> er
[20:22] <shirtless> actually just reboot livecd
[20:22] <shirtless> and delete sda5
[20:22] <shirtless> good luck
[20:22] <FloodBot3> shirtless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <Stealth-> Right
[20:22] <Stealth-> So basically its Sda5 i gotta delete?
[20:22] <shirtless> yes
[20:22] <Stealth-> Cant i just do it from gparted?
[20:22] <shirtless> I would reboot before doing that, so that you can re-read the partition table and create a new partition
[20:22] <shirtless> it is best to use the livecd
[20:23] <shirtless> You can create one either way of course..
[20:23] <Stealth-> Ok
[20:23] <shirtless> but you will have to reboot to re-read the partition table of a drive that is being used.
[20:23] <Stealth-> So how do i do it from the livecd?
[20:23] <shirtless> same way you do it from any install
[20:23] <shirtless> the livecd is just an install on the cd
[20:23] <Stealth-> Hm
[20:24] <Stealth-> So I use my Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 live install?
[20:24] <Stealth-> Or liveCD
[20:24] <shirtless> don't go to the install program
[20:24] <Stealth-> Ok
[20:24] <progre55> hey guys, when you run  "tar zcvf - SOURCEDIR | ssh user1@remotehost 'cd DESTDIR; tar zxvf - ' ", does it tar first on the memory and then send it, or does it tar and send it at the same time? I mean, I have a file about 19Gb, and only 8Gb ram..
[20:24] <shirtless> just run it as a 'trial' or whatever
[20:24] <shirtless> it's like having a rescue cd with a full gui etc.
[20:25] <Stealth-> ok
[20:25] <Stealth-> so I run ubuntu 10.04 live cd as a trail
[20:25] <Stealth-> trial
[20:25] <alabd> Good day all , is using MMS codec against any coyright law ?
[20:25] <Stealth-> then where do i go from there
[20:26] <Stealth-> Shirtless?
[20:26] <shirtless> Stealth-: boot into windows
[20:26] <shirtless> create a partition
[20:26] <Stealth-> From the liveCD
[20:26] <shirtless> use it for mp3s or something.
[20:26] <shirtless> i don't know
[20:26] <FloodBot3> shirtless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <shirtless> sudo gparteD?
[20:26] <Stealth-> Yeah
[20:26] <Stealth-> Already got it running mate
[20:26] <shirtless> oh
[20:26] <shirtless> um, delete it
[20:26] <tacomaster> if i can get wireless on my laptop can i hook up a crossover cable to another computer and point all traffic to my laptop to get the other computer internet?
[20:26] <Stealth-> I can delete the partition whenever I want
[20:26] <shirtless> it's a gui, you'll figure it out
[20:26] <Stealth-> Ok
[20:27] <bastidrazor> !ics | tacomaster
[20:27] <Stealth-> So We are sure that the /sda5 is the right partition
[20:27] <Stealth-> I meen I know the 14gig filesystem is but are we sure thats sda5?
[20:27] <shirtless> yeah, but if it isn't it's not my fault. it's your computer
[20:27] <Stealth-> hahaha
[20:27] <Stealth-> ok mate
[20:27] <shirtless> ;P
[20:28] <tracy69> guys will ubuntu 10.04 work on asus laptop ?
[20:28] <Stealth-> Going to do it in 2 mins or so
[20:28] <Stealth-> gotta work myself up
[20:28] <IdleOrange> tracy69 yes
[20:28] <Stealth-> If i get the message come up "WINDOWS 7 DELETED SUCCESSFULLY"
[20:28] <iceroot> tracy69:  there are many many many asus laptops
[20:28] <Stealth-> I am going to throw the computer out the window
[20:28] <Stealth-> nnot joking
[20:28] <iceroot> Stealth-: you habe a support-question?
[20:28] <tracy69> yes i have new one and i wonder if the hardware is supported or not
[20:28] <Stealth-> iceroot, shirtless is helping me
[20:29] <iceroot> tracy69: again, there are many many many asus laptops, also many many many new ones
[20:29] <IdleOrange> tracy69 what is the model of the machine?
[20:29] <Stealth-> shirtless, so should I do it then?
[20:29] <tracy69> this is my laptop will 10.04 work on it ? http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=NX90JQ-YZ068Z
[20:29] <sjm> tracy69, what model?
[20:29] <tracy69> 3d vision etc ?
[20:30] <shirtless> dude, that's up to you. there's a line between offering support and assuming liability for the actions of others.
[20:30] <Stealth-> Shirtless
[20:30] <Stealth-> If it goes wrong I am to blaim here not you
[20:30] <shirtless> then why do you keep asking me if you should do it?
[20:30] <IdleOrange> nice specs tracy69
[20:30] <shirtless> "DO IT NOW!"
[20:30] <Stealth-> Because I want a second opinion D=
[20:30] <coz_> tracy69,  let me check the specs  but all lilely hood it will work fine
[20:30] <Stealth-> and when i unmount it it gets called /home/stealth/netboo
[20:30] <Stealth-> k
[20:30] <coz_> tracy69,  the only issue that may come up is the webcam
[20:31] <tracy69> coz what about 3d vision?
[20:31] <Stealth-> And shirtless, is that all I have to delete?
[20:31] <sjm> tracy69, I'll send you my delivery address in a PM for that laptop :)
[20:31] <zatan> hi is anybody will be able to help me? Im trying to connect my laptop to LCD TV with HDMI to SVGA cable as anybody have ideas how to do it?
[20:31] <coz_> tracy69,  3d vision?  not sure what you mean
[20:32] <coz_> tracy69,  do you mean  things like compiz?
[20:32] <sjm> zatan, plug in the cables?
[20:32] <IdleOrange> tracy69 you mean it can run 3d games?
[20:32] <tracy69> it mean u see screen in 3d
[20:32] <coz_> tracy69,  ok you should have no issues with 3d graphics of any kind including compiz on this machine
[20:32] <tracy69> no 3d vision like cinema 3d
[20:33] <zatan> sjm,  I pluged cable to my laptop and LCD tv saying "this source is not connected"
[20:33] <shirtless> Stealth-: it would help to learn how to reinstall grub and edit out the netbook install entry
[20:33] <Stealth-> i know how to reinstall grub I THINK
[20:33] <shirtless> Stealth-: but i can't tell you all that, it's not mission critical and you can read about it when you have time on the ubuntu site
[20:33] <Stealth-> And i have a spare computer downstairs
[20:33] <shirtless> yeah
[20:33] <coz_> tracy69,  it should be fine  but let me check "cinema3d"
[20:33] <shirtless> just use the docs and take your time
[20:33] <Stealth-> And I have a picture to show you quickly
[20:33] <shirtless> when I first learned linux, I pretty much blew my computer up 10-20 times
[20:33] <shirtless> so just be ready for it to happen
[20:33] <Stealth-> Whoa
[20:33] <Stealth-> Really?
[20:33] <shirtless> maybe make regular backups
[20:33] <Stealth-> How much data did you loose?
[20:33] <shirtless> Well I learned when it was less  usable
[20:34] <sjm> zatan, did you enable the external display on your laptop?  (hotkey or otherwise)?
[20:34] <Stealth-> http://i55.tinypic.com/6y3705.png
[20:34] <shirtless> I voluntarily just wiped my data all the time because I realized it was all unimportant
[20:34] <shirtless> admit it: most of your important data would fit on a thumbdrive
[20:34] <coz_> tracy69,  not sure I know " cinema3d"  but my guess it will work
[20:34] <Stealth-> 4Gig or so yeah shirtless
[20:34] <shirtless> yeah
[20:34] <shirtless> the rest is just movies you downloaded and only watchd once anyway
[20:34] <Stealth-> Yeah
[20:34] <Stealth-> right then
[20:34] <shirtless> and why back that shit up? whoc ares
[20:34] <tracy69> coz_ tnx i will just try to install ubuntu and see if everythig is working
[20:34] <shirtless> just delete the whole computer!
[20:34] <zatan> sjm,  how can i enable ?
[20:34] <Stealth-> Look at the picture, does it look like the correct one to delete?
[20:34] <IdleOrange> coz_ she means you can view videos in 3d if you have the glasses
[20:35] <wpauls> is there a way to install a fairly old version of java? like 1.5?
[20:35] <shirtless> Stealth-: thats the one.
[20:35] <coz_> IdleOrange,  oh!
[20:35] <shirtless> Stealth-: you might want to first unmount it.
[20:35] <coz_> tracy69,  if that is what you mean then you will not have issues
[20:35] <shirtless> Stealth-: sudo umount /dev/sda5
[20:35] <iceroot> wpauls: have a look if oracle is still providing the deb for java 1.5 or maybe the bin
[20:35] <shirtless> if it says busy, close all your terminals and try again
[20:36] <Stealth-> Done it shirtless
[20:36] <Stealth-> its unmounted
[20:36] <ankush> hi all..i wish to develop a soft for changing boot splash screen easily.. what should i study to get me gng asap.?
[20:36] <sjm> zatan, I think the program is grandr
[20:36] <Stealth-> Now how the fuck do i delete it
[20:36] <tracy69> coz_ i mean 3d like when u go to cinema to watch 3d movies i have the same feature in my laptop
[20:36] <sjm> !language | Stealth-
[20:36] <shirtless> Stealth-: try the menus at the top of the screen
[20:36] <Stealth-> shirtless i get this
[20:36] <Stealth-> Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5
[20:36] <Stealth-> sjm we all know
[20:36] <tracy69> coz_ they gave me special glasses for it
[20:36] <wpauls> great suggestion iceroot, but i have no idea where to start "looking". google has been less than forecoming
[20:37] <coz_> tracy69,  well the hardware on that laptop should work just fine for that
[20:37] <shirtless> Oh, /sda5 is a logical partition, FUUU
[20:37] <Stealth-> Oh shit
[20:37] <shirtless> actually
[20:37] <Stealth-> Do we have another problem?
[20:37] <shirtless> that doesn't matter
[20:37] <Stealth-> YES
[20:37]  * Stealth- dances
[20:37] <FloodBot3> Stealth-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <Stealth-> shirtless, what do?
[20:38] <shirtless> for i in `seq 5 8`;do   sudo umount /dev/sda$i;done
[20:38] <shirtless> never mind
[20:38] <shirtless> don't even do that
[20:38] <Stealth-> ok
[20:38] <shirtless> you aren't using the livecd, are you
[20:38] <shirtless> USE IT
[20:38] <shirtless> I can't spend all day with these little things that would be avoided by rebooting
[20:38] <iceroot> wpauls: oracle.com and then look there for download java
[20:38] <magnetron> hi, how do i use my SIM card reader?
[20:39] <kv102t> anyone know of a USB TV adapter that works well with ubuntu10.4 (with Vidio in if possible)
[20:39] <Stealth-> Ok shirtless
[20:39] <sjm> zatan, did that work?
[20:39] <magnetron> kv102t: linuxtv.org has some good lists
[20:39] <Stealth-> I am going to boot up the livecd, run the trial, then do what?
[20:39] <shirtless> run gparted
[20:39] <shirtless> as root
[20:39] <Stealth-> ok
[20:39] <shirtless> and delete sda5
[20:40] <shirtless> just be more confident and you'll get ti
[20:40] <shirtless> you're too nervous
[20:40] <FloodBot3> shirtless: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <shirtless> maybe try to buy an extra hard drive so you can do backups
[20:40] <shirtless> that way you can stop panicking
[20:40] <Stealth-> I am planning on shirtless
[20:40] <zatan> sjm, yes i just installed grandr, but it doesnt work
[20:40] <Stealth-> Ok, booting up with livecd now
[20:40] <shirtless> you can back up the whole drive with only one command
[20:40] <Stealth-> Will report and tell you how its gone in 20 mins mate
[20:40] <shirtless> ok
[20:40] <shirtless> good luck
[20:40] <zatan> sjm, ,I dont have clues what else i can try and google is not much helpfull
[20:40] <Stealth-> Peace
[20:41] <garfieldairlines> hello, I'm an admin of the french wikipedia and I need a MOTU for wikinews, a sister project for an interview
[20:41] <sjm> zatan, sorry, but I have to go for now.  Maybe someone else can step in.
[20:41] <garfieldairlines> anyone please ? :)
[20:41] <magnetron> kv102t: i would recommend using a PCI TV card instead, they generally have much better support in linux
[20:41] <iceroot> wpauls: is there a reason you need java 1.5?
[20:41] <kv102t> magnetron: laptop...
[20:41] <zatan> sjm,  thank u for your trying to help me ;)
[20:42] <magnetron> kv102t: do you have firewire?
[20:42] <kv102t> um, i sec
[20:42] <kv102t> yes
[20:42] <kv102t> magnetron:yep
[20:43] <magnetron> kv102t: check for both firewire and USB devices on this site: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information
[20:43] <wpauls> iceroot yeah i am using a fairly ancient peice of software called oracle trader that needs 1.5.
[20:43] <bhundven> a while back I swapped ctrl and caps lock using System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> layout. I want to go back becasue qemu is freaking out. But when I try to change it back, the setting doesn't stay.
[20:44] <shirtless> lsof = god tool
[20:44] <bhundven> I'm using 10.10
[20:44] <magnetron> bhundven: disable separate layouts for each window
[20:44] <magnetron> bhundven: also, 10.10 doesn't exist yet
[20:45] <kv102t> magnetron: just gone down firewire and it's camera's
[20:45] <bhundven> werd, I know.
[20:45] <urthmover> good day folks...I have an sshfs question....how can I reduce the  ammount of chatter over a local network link that uses sshfs to  connect to my freenas box?  I have wireshark up and there are many  ACKs per minute
[20:45] <bhundven> Do I have to reboot for it to make change?
[20:45] <iceroot> wpauls: very interesting that oracle software is not running with oracle java 1.6
[20:45] <magnetron> bhundven: if you are running some alpha software i suggest you go to #ubuntu+1 , it's the support channel for unreleased ubuntu versions
[20:45] <iceroot> bhundven: #ubuntu+1
[20:45] <bhundven> ah
[20:45] <kv102t> magnetron:guess there are non? this site is for lots of devices that work with linux?
[20:45] <sjm> garfieldairlines, you might try #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-ops
[20:46] <garfieldairlines> sjm: okay, I'll see the ops chan
[20:46] <magnetron> kv102t: there are many, just check the site
[20:46] <magnetron> kv102t: what TV standard is your country using?
[20:47] <kv102t> magnetron:am looking! thanks for your help. PAL (UK) ?
[20:47] <magnetron> kv102t: i thought UK switched to digital TV?
[20:47] <wpauls> oracle trader is most definetely not from oracle, it's from a stock trader that made his own trading program, and chose to call it oracle trader
[20:48] <kv102t> magnetron:Yeh, other cannels are still on at moment. soon to die. so would need to be digital.
[20:48] <magnetron> kv102t: from what i know, UK now uses DVB-T
[20:48] <kv102t> magnetron:ok, I could make do with just a VideoIN.
[20:49] <quidnunc> after inserting a CD I get "/media/cdrom0" does not exist. Is it supposed to?
[20:49] <aprovencio> hello everyone, do you guys know how can i force a luckClose command ?
[20:49] <kv102t> HDMI,AV,S-Video
[20:49] <madfox> quidnunc, where are you seeing that msg?
[20:49] <quidnunc> madfox: dialog box
[20:49] <quidnunc> madfox: output of mount
[20:49] <Stealth--> Hey
[20:50] <Stealth--> Its not letting me delete the partion shirtless
[20:50] <Stealth--> even from the live CD
[20:50] <wpauls> well thanks for trying, bye!
[20:50] <madfox> quidnunc ahh output of mount, try cycling through different numbers like cdrom1, cdrom2, cdrom3
[20:50] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[20:51] <madfox> quidnunc on some systems for some reason the cd would only mount on one of those .-.
[20:51] <quidnunc> madfox: I'm not invoking mount manually (it's whatever it does automatically
[20:51] <Stealth--> I still get the message unable to delete dev/sda5 - POlease unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5
[20:51] <Stealth--> and this is when i am using the livecd shirtless
[20:51] <madfox> quidnunc odd
[20:52] <quidnunc> madfox: What do you have in media
[20:52] <quidnunc>  /media
[20:52] <Stealth--> Can anyone here help me?
[20:52] <zatan> hi Im trying to connect my laptop to LCD TV with HDMI to SVGA cable as anybody have ideas how to do it?
[20:52] <madfox> quidnunc nuthing, but i dont have a cd in or anything
[20:53] <Stealth--> Basically I am in the middle of deleting a partition, but Gparted is giving me a error message
[20:53] <madfox> Stealth-- what msg?
[20:54] <Stealth--> please unmount any logical partitions havuing a number higher than 5
[20:54] <Stealth--> I am using the liveCD to do this so dont understand it madfox
[20:54] <madfox> Stealth-- sounds pretty straight forward then
[20:54] <Stealth--> What do i do madfox?
[20:54] <Ianrr> I am a new Ubuntu user and I use to have web folders setup in Windows, so like my Z: was mapped to https://mysite.com/webdav.... does anyone know where I would start trying to get this same functionality in unbuntu
[20:55] <MeanEYE> evening ppl
[20:55] <madfox> Stealth-- unmount any logical partition having a number higher than 5 o.o
[20:55] <Stealth--> madfox I dont think there is any mounted and dont know what that meens
[20:55] <erUSUL> Ianrr: Places>Connect to Server. you can bookmark them
[20:56] <madfox> Stealth-- alrighty, well in your gparted screen what does it say for the various partitions?
[20:56] <Stealth--> hmm madfox?
[20:56] <Ianrr> erUSUL where is places
[20:57] <erUSUL> Ianrr: in the main menu ( ubuntu )
[20:57] <madfox> Stealth-- when you have gparted open, it lists your various partitions, what are they?
[20:57] <Stealth--> well the list of my partitions really , /dev/sda8, 5 , 6, 7
[20:57] <Stealth--> but none of them are mounted
[20:58] <nick1_> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/songstumblr/id386723282?mt=8
[20:58] <madfox> Stealth-- youve right clicked them and clicked unmount?
[20:59] <Stealth--> yeah
[20:59] <Stealth--> None of them are able to
[20:59] <madfox> Stealth-- unable to? no option or just wont let you?
[20:59] <murielgodoi> How to proceed in case of a "update-manager -d" crashed the netbook?
[21:00] <Stealth--> in 80% of them it wont let me, in about 3 of them theres no option
[21:00] <guntbert> I want to know where I can determine if firefox should move to foreground (or not)  when I click on an URL in some other application - is it an ubuntu setting or a firefox setting?
[21:00] <madfox> Stealth-- exit out, run in the terminal sudo gparted
[21:00] <shirtless> guntbert: you mean raised to the top-level of windows?
[21:01] <guntbert> shirtless: yes
[21:01] <Stealth--> ok madfox
[21:01] <Stealth--> it opens gparted again
[21:01] <jrib> guntbert: you can probably accomplish that with devilspie
[21:01] <Stealth--> and nothing T.T
[21:01] <gidna> How cani I remove the mbr and restore windows?
[21:01] <shirtless> guntbert: handled by metacity, probably. I don't think gnome is going to have an exposed setting. your best bet is to dig around in gconf-editor under metacity
[21:01] <jrib> gidna: ##windows
[21:01] <guntbert> shirtless: thx
[21:02] <jrib> !devilspie > guntbert
[21:02] <guntbert> jrib: devilspie?
[21:02] <Stealth--> madfox, Any suggestions?
[21:03] <madfox> Stealth-- nothing?
[21:03] <guntbert> jrib: thx, may I pm you?
[21:03] <kalle_> i tryed to burn a dvd-ram with brasero and k3b but get these errors 93510.466542] udf: Block 32 of volume descriptor sequence is corrupted or we could not read it.
[21:03] <kalle_> [93547.330122] UDF-fs: No fileset found
[21:03] <kalle_> [93547.713645] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format., any ideas ?  also neither program supports erasing same discs to use again, is there a more advanced app ? something like nero ?
[21:03] <jrib> guntbert: better here
[21:03] <FloodBot3> kalle_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <Stealth--> same error message as before when i try to delete madfox
[21:03] <madfox> Stealth-- yeah but the unmounting part
[21:03] <Stealth--> yeah:?
[21:03] <madfox> Stealth-- does it let you now?
[21:03] <guntbert> jrib: how did you accomplish that " <jrib> wants you to know:" part?
[21:04] <jrib> guntbert: ubottu just does that when you do:   !foo > bar
[21:04] <kalle_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/487981/
[21:04] <Stealth--> nope madfox
[21:04] <magnetron> kalle_: which version of ubuntu are you using? are you editing an existing UDF filesystem or are you making a completely new one?
[21:05] <guntbert> jrib: ah I see - seems to be a long time since someone sent me something :-)
[21:05] <kalle_> 10.0.4 something latest, making a new one
[21:05] <magnetron> kalle_: it seems like the filesystem on the disc is damaged, try to erase it
[21:05] <kalle_> just did
[21:05] <madfox> Stealth-- what err msg is it throwing when you try to unmount the ones that have the option, but wont let you?
[21:05] <kalle_> had to use anoter pc since linux wont let me erase
[21:05] <Stealth--> madfox, I cant click the button
[21:06] <Stealth--> it wont let me
[21:06] <magnetron> kalle_: well, seems like your current disc is damaged then.
[21:06] <Stealth--> and when i check it it tels me its unmounted
[21:06] <kalle_> i doubt that
[21:06] <magnetron> kalle_: i guess that when you say "linux won't let me" you are really trying to say "i got an error message"? what was the error message?
[21:07] <kalle_> there is no option in either brasero or k3b that i can find to erase a disc, why not ?
[21:07] <madfox> Stealth-- what?
[21:08] <Stealth--> madfox, I am gonna brb, are you gonna be here in half a hour to speak?
[21:08] <magnetron> kalle_: nobody can answer your question because you are simply incorrect. there's a tool for erasing discs in Brasero
[21:08] <madfox> Stealth-- maybe
[21:08] <Stealth--> ok mate cheers
[21:08] <Stealth--> brb then
[21:09] <zatan> hi Im trying to connect my laptop to LCD TV with HDMI to SVGA cable as anybody have ideas how to do it?
[21:09] <shirtless> update-grub is hanging at 'Generating grub.cfg'
[21:09] <shirtless> anyone know how I can troubleshoot it?
[21:10] <magnetron> zatan: VGA is analog and HDMI is digital. you'll need a converter, which will probably be pretty expensive.
[21:10] <madfox> shirtless are you sure it's hanging or just taking awhile?
[21:10] <shirtless> madfox: it's definitely, definitely, hung
[21:10] <shirtless> oh
[21:10] <shirtless> it's a script, so I'll set -x inside
[21:11] <zatan> magnetron,  so why they are selling this cable and saying its suitable for computers?
[21:11] <magnetron> zatan: excuse me?
[21:11] <glaucous> I have ATI drivers installed (10.8), but I'm having a problem with my OpenGL headers, it seems like they're old (not supporting VBO etc). But the headers should be updated with the ATI drivers. What should I try?
[21:12] <zatan> magnetron, what are you trying to say that is not possible to connect pc to laptop with svga and hdmi cable?
[21:12] <magnetron> zatan: many computers have HDMI or DVI-D connectors, they will easily connect to your TV with HDMI input
[21:13] <blueyed> I want to automount my usb harddrive when it's plugged in. I am using cryptsetup. Is this the way to go? (via udev) http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
[21:13] <magnetron> zatan: it is only possible to connect a SVGA output to a HDMI input if you buy an expensive converter box
[21:13] <Baphomet> :O
[21:13] <shirtless> update-grub is getting stuck trying to probe my root filesystem,  here is the line from set -x inserted into grub-mkconfig: + /usr/sbin/grub-probe --device /dev/sda6 --target=drive
[21:14] <shirtless> anyone know potential causes for that?
[21:14] <zatan> magnetron,I understood , but DVI cable is going to be suitable for intel 950 graphic card?
[21:14] <Baphomet> who plays AOE II????
[21:15] <shirtless> ah, device.map.
[21:15] <shirtless> where is kept?
[21:15] <erUSUL> !appdb > Baphomet
[21:15] <aprovencio> hello everyone, do you guys know how can i force a luckClose command ?
[21:15] <shirtless> wait, when i do it as root there is a different story
[21:15] <magnetron> zatan: i don't know if your graphic card has a DVI connector. i thought you said it only had a SVGA connector?
[21:16] <guntbert> shirtless: may I occupy your brain once more (about the raising of a window): when firefox stays (with focus) in the background while chromium is raised to the top level -- that looks like it is a firefox setting, right?
[21:16] <magnetron> aprovencio: try being a little more detailed about what kind of command "luckClose" is and in which context you are trying to force it
[21:17] <Shreeyash> hey, i'm using a intel alc883 in-built sound card, in my efforts to enable surround sound, i re-installed alsa from alsa-project, now my sound card is not detected, is there a way to set it back?
[21:17] <shirtless> guntbert: while it probably could be configured in firefox, I don't know if the firefox developers would expose such a setting. If it is configurable that way try about:config or try devilspie as that other guy suggested but its kind of alpha software so good luck with that one
[21:17] <sameerk> hello good evenin/mornin is there anyway i can change login or resume screen where it ask for your details
[21:17] <zatan> magnetron, yes i just checked my PC doesnt have DVI connector ... I still got another connector SVGA to AV. but also i couldt figured how to connect.
[21:17] <guntbert> shirtless: thx for your input
[21:17] <zatan> magnetron,  thank you for explaining me
[21:17] <sameerk> using 10.04
[21:18] <magnetron> zatan: does your computer have an S-VHS output?
[21:18] <Baphomet> xd
[21:18] <Baphomet> geeks
[21:18] <Baphomet> :D:D
[21:18] <magnetron> Baphomet: it seems like you are on IRC, in the Ubuntu support channel. welcome
[21:18] <madfox> !ot | Baphomet
[21:19] <zatan> magnetron,  sorry i just checked i doesnt have S-VHS output.
[21:19] <sameerk> another question is there a device manager in ubuntu 10.04 like u got in windows
[21:19] <magnetron> zatan: maybe your TV has VGA input?
[21:19] <magnetron> sameerk: yes, but it's not needed since all working drivers comes bundled with Ubuntu
[21:20] <erikhm> hey, I seem to have broken my ubuntu. I'm using 10.04, and just installed the nvidia drivers from synaptic package manager, restarted, and now after choosing ubuntu from grub it just goes to a black screen, like my screen has been turned off or something. is there anyway to roll back the driver from the grub command line?
[21:20] <aprovencio> magnetron, alright. My encrypted external drive did not unmounted properly, and now i can't re-mount it because its stuck at /dev/mapper. A luksClose comand on the device gives me a "null device or access denied" message.
[21:20] <shirtless> haha i fixed my problem
[21:20] <bastidrazor> sameerk: install gnome-device-manager
[21:20] <shirtless> !!! strace & set -x are the winners! !!!
[21:20] <edgar> alguien que me ayude a conectar mysql remoto
[21:20] <zatan> magnetron,  yes my TV have VGA input
[21:20] <sameerk> is it ubuntu software centre
[21:20] <sameerk> in
[21:20] <sameerk> >
[21:20] <sameerk> ?
[21:20] <erUSUL> erikhm: try to boot into recovery mode and in the menu choose repair X
[21:20] <erUSUL> !es | edgar
[21:20] <aprovencio> magnetron, so i want to force a luksClose command in order to be able to mount the HD again
[21:20] <magnetron> zatan: great! all you need is a VGA cable connecting the SVGA output of the laptop to the VGA input of the TV
[21:20] <erikhm> recovery mode does the same thing
[21:21] <erikhm> goes black
[21:21] <magnetron> aprovencio: hmm, did you use sudo? just guessing here
[21:21] <aprovencio> magnetron, yep
[21:21] <erUSUL> erikhm: can you change to different VT? crtl + alt + f1 ?
[21:21] <zatan> magnetron, look i got this cable : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-1-8M-HDMI-SVGA-VGA-CONVERTER-CABLE-ADAPTER-M-M-/350390041446?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item5194dfbb66    and its saying that  HDMI TO SVGA VGA CONVERTER CABLE ADAPTER M/M
[21:21] <Fableflame> Hey guys, I'm having an issue installing Remastersys. It keeps telling me "E: Couldn't find package remastersys"
[21:21] <erUSUL> !find remaster
[21:22] <erikhm> nope, tried that to, actually that is something I noticed even before installing the drivers, recovery mode never worked, I could never boot into only command line
[21:22] <duffydack> Fableflame, need a ppa
[21:22] <magnetron> zatan: that cable will only work for very few graphic cards, probably not for your computer
[21:22] <Fableflame> duffydack, and where do I find that?
[21:22] <duffydack> Fableflame, or use the OEM install method...
[21:23] <erUSUL> erikhm: then boot into a livecd mount the ubuntu artition and move the xorg.conf file out of the way.
[21:23] <nubuntu> Helloooooooooooooo
[21:23] <erikhm> will that still work if I installed it from windows?
[21:23] <madfox> !ask | nubuntu
[21:23] <erUSUL> erikhm: sudo mv /mount/point/etc/X11/xorg.conf  /mount/point/etc/X11/xorg.conf.useless
[21:23] <sameerk> thanks bastidrozer:)
[21:23] <m15k> hi is there a gui in 10.4 for configuring nfs?
[21:23] <sameerk> got it
[21:23] <erUSUL> erikhm: is wubi install ?
[21:24] <Fableflame> duffydack: so that will let me create an ISO of my current install? With all my stuff?
[21:24] <erikhm> erUSUL: yes
[21:24] <KBlJWQ-> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! KBlJWQ- nakhlawi tuna-fish bgdn86 m15k progre55 edgar luist jaykub Dragnslcr th0r SCD[Eire] pvl1 dreamnid Tomcat_ha Awsoonn gigasoft office Italian_Plumber erikhm evilmercenary incorrect sameerk twobitsprite blueyed trond- simar SegFaultAX area51pilot_ randerzander sweetpi jareth_ seif sree__ xangua bsod1 BeWolF Exzi l34k Chr|s jMyles rcsheets slashiter CkhiKuzad dirk_ yamba bi
[21:24] <KBlJWQ-> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! Evil_DuDe erana Baphomet coolguy_ matrixa1 ubuntu Ianrr jophish bastidrazor zatan kyngdom MaximLevitsky aprovencio Prodego niko GMeola Dragonlive64 jrib CrEddy tull Oli``` lelamal ginbuntu antonpiatek themill kv102t shadenzo Kaie` jefinc tak11 Chousho sjm Synthead G-Bleezy avis gfi ANTRat IdleOrange Dantonic ralf_e Westie zilla CadeSkywalker ank master_of_master mbroeker DarkSe
[21:24] <KBlJWQ-> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! duffydack DJ_HaMsTa pipeep MichealH Fou-Lu Knat TechnoRacoon AaronMT Kizaru ChaosR XuMuK random-jellyfish jasonb Anzufvytar misnix Callum__ red2kic kibble undifined earthmeLon eurythmia dnp Lattyware jamur2 malikeye M1DLGpc flashkidd Cryophile MrUnagi jiga Mrcheesenips insano tripps bobbytek madfox VCoolio Cream Eurn nisstyre65 seidos kek everythingdaniel poff sburjan` spvensko
[21:24] <KBlJWQ-> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! samrose jayam ndevastator aganice Error404NotFound Mud TFParabox nicoulaj quake_guy bootstrap Mnemonic^ soreau jimius Nighty ServerTechPro JumboJellyfish TimeRider slyboots elkclone amarillion RotesOHM EvilPhoenix genewitch ZykoticK9 KindOne Zensursula os2mac Bauldrick kostkon xxiao laieman swiggy YankDownUnder krachny patholio red krafty guntbert jumbers artiv nand dinya lat f
[21:24] <KBlJWQ-> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! undecim Roasted_ embla Psychoholic localhost2 brontos awoodland pmcgowan dougsko daniel_ acronica Matic`Makovec trism zkriesse mlaci m0t3jl smerz Bobrobyn sinistrad jono pucko- oracle StippenG mrp artvee sn0wflake Squarism MashPotato uRock reflectivedev komputes ke_ FusionX ezraw lxsys Anubisss ryaxnb sebsebseb trijntje MadViking gregbair sandertje benkevan incandenza Robert_Ze
[21:24] <FloodBot3> KBlJWQ-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <AaronMT> ......
[21:24] <erUSUL> erikhm: should work. but to mount the ubuntu "partition" you will have to read the wubi wiki
[21:24] <genewitch> seriously?
[21:24] <erUSUL> !wubi | erikhm
[21:25] <SCD[Eire]> That guy was such a nazi
[21:25] <coolguy_> any females in here want to teach me sex?
[21:25] <erUSUL> !ot | coolguy_
[21:25] <coolguy_> okay
[21:26] <erikhm> erUSUL: okay, so after that, how do I get the nvidia drivers working?
[21:26] <uRock> !!!! Can you guys do something with the flood bots to block KBlJWQ?
[21:26] <erUSUL> !nvidia | erikhm
[21:26] <Tm_T> uRock: all possible should be done
[21:26] <pachinsv> hi everybody!
[21:26] <erikhm> erUSUL: alright, thanks
[21:27] <erUSUL> erikhm: good luck
[21:27] <tetsuo----> is there an easy way to scan for virusses in ubuntu?
[21:27] <erUSUL> !info clamtk
[21:27] <CreativeX> in ubuntu? do you want to find virus'?
[21:28] <sameerk> another question i got this trident usb tv 2.0 box is there a tv app?
[21:28] <tetsuo----> CreativeX: might be one hiding in wine
[21:28] <oracle> what virus
[21:28] <realubot> How do I fix overscan at a plasma TV not having a slider to adjust overscan in Ubuntu? Will xrandr or startx pr something help me out?
[21:28] <erUSUL> !info xawtv
[21:28] <oracle> !virus
[21:28] <CreativeX> i dont belive in that
[21:28] <oracle> there you go
[21:28] <oracle> you don't need antivirus on linux
[21:29] <uRock> why do people always get harassed for wanting to have an AV, when almost everyone has a friend with Windows?
[21:29] <tetsuo----> uRock:  well said\
[21:29] <CreativeX> uRock :P
[21:29] <tetsuo----> and stupid ubuntu users, that OK everything they see
[21:29] <uRock> =)
[21:29] <magnetron> !info tvtime | sameerk
[21:30] <Fableflame> I love Linux, I go around downloading everything I can because I know that Linux is completely immune to viruses!!!
[21:30] <Stealth-> Hello back
[21:30] <Stealth-> infact nvm
[21:30] <nakhlawi> Fableflame: Not completely immune
[21:30] <tetsuo----> you can still get rooted
[21:30] <stealth_brb_in_5> brb
[21:31] <Fableflame> What's that firefox? This website is a reported attack site? Pshh, I'm on Linux!
[21:31] <hiexpo> Fableflame, its not completelt immune do not be mistaken
[21:31] <Fableflame>  /sarcasm
[21:31] <uRock> what happens when you get to it before it gets reported to FF?
[21:31] <Fableflame> nakhlawi, hiexpo  uRock: You guys know I'm kidding, right?
[21:31] <jrib> "common sense"is the best antivirus and the only one you really need
[21:31] <uRock> I am guilty of testing sites for MS people myself
[21:32] <nakhlawi> jrib: correct
[21:32] <uRock> si senor Fableflame
[21:32] <Baphomet> si señor?
[21:32] <uRock> I don't have those fonts on me keyboard
[21:33] <BluSpoon> Evening all.
[21:33] <guntbert> !ot | Fableflame
[21:33] <hiexpo> sup guntbert
[21:33] <progre55> is it possible to extract a tar file and at the same time, delete the old files?
[21:33] <sameerk> i install xawtv its detecting my webcam instead of usb tv card
[21:33] <Fableflame> guntbert, I wasn't off topic. . .
[21:34] <progre55> cause I dont have enough space on my hard
[21:34] <ariasbeep> hello
[21:34] <guntbert> Fableflame: you were - the topic of *this* channel is ubuntu support, not talking about ubuntu related things
[21:34] <ariasbeep> I getting a error message when I try to copy a file with a name with "ñ" or "í"
[21:35] <sameerk> anyone?
[21:35] <erUSUL> ariasbeep: where are you copying the files to ?
[21:35] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: moving the file
[21:35] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: other directory
[21:36] <erUSUL> ariasbeep: same filesystem ?
[21:36] <sameerk> any other tv app
[21:36] <coolguy_> is it okay to smoke around computers? particularly ubuntu?
[21:36] <sameerk> for usb 2.0 tv card
[21:36] <th0r> coolguy_: depends on what you are smoking
[21:36] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: sometimes 7zip files or .pdf files with a "ñ" letter in the name
[21:37] <madfox> coolguy_ how the hell would the OS matter o.o?
[21:37] <realubot> erUSUL: Well, I want to output the Desktop at a plasma TV through HDMI. Right now the TV overscans the Desktop so that the panels are almost cut off.
[21:37] <erUSUL> ariasbeep: i'm asking if you are copying the files to a ntfs or vfat partition
[21:37] <coolguy_> tobacco/sometimes marijuana th0r, is this okay?
[21:37] <Fableflame> Smoking isn't about Ubuntu, you guys are offtopic
[21:37] <oracle> where are source files located after you do apt-get source hostapd
[21:37] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: usb memory
[21:37] <guntbert> coolguy_: that wasn't funny in #ubuntu-offtopic -- and here its less so - stop it
[21:37] <tetsuo----> how can i make clamtk scan the hidden .wine folder/
[21:37] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: flash memory
[21:37] <coolguy_> ok
[21:38] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: for example
[21:38] <magnetron> oracle: should be downloaded to the current directory
[21:38] <VCoolio> oracle: in your current folder, echo $PWD
[21:38] <erUSUL> ariasbeep: so probably fat filesystem. could be that it was not correctkly mounted to accept the foreign chars
[21:38] <oracle> thanks you two
[21:38] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: nop I think is nautilus
[21:38] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: cause the name
[21:39] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: the character "ñ" for example appears like a figure
[21:39] <kermit> how do i edit a pdf?
[21:39] <ariasbeep> erUSUL: this is a name of a directory I got Libros_masoner�a by [Dead] (codificación no válida)
[21:39] <erUSUL> !nfo pdfedit
[21:39] <erUSUL> !info pdfedit
[21:40] <ariasbeep> (codification not valid)
[21:40] <erUSUL> ariasbeep: maybe we can continue in #ubuntu-es ?
[21:40] <lat> After upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04, bootup fails, unless I hit the shift key and choose a very old kernal. Also, xchat now gives the following error: "Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out". xchat still works on a Windows computer on the same lan. Anyone know what is wrong, and how to fix?
[21:41] <erUSUL> !es | ariasbeep
[21:41] <ariasbeep> gracias
[21:41] <ariasbeep> join #ubuntu-es
[21:41] <M1DLGpc> u need to use / at the begining
[21:41] <ariasbeep> ok sorry
[21:41] <M1DLGpc> :)
[21:42] <ariasbeep> join #ubuntu-es
[21:42] <ariasbeep> again
[21:42] <sameerk> usb 2.0 tv box tv app anyone?
[21:42] <M1DLGpc> maybe u need to go to the freenode tab first
[21:42] <erUSUL> ariasbeep: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:43] <Mortan> hello
[21:43] <realubot> erUSUL: How would xawtv help me prevent overscan displaying the Desktop at a plasma TV?
[21:44] <erUSUL> realubot: the xawtv factoid was for another person asking for a way to use a TV receiver...
[21:44] <Mortan> I'm writing this application for easy user creation in a "kiosk" type enviroment, and i'm trying to find a way to make a RPC to the central LTSP server to create a user, how do i get started with RPC on ubuntu?
[21:45] <TiK> way above my knowlegde level ;)
[21:45] <sameerk> i guess no one :(
[21:45] <TiK> ege
[21:45] <well_laid_lawn> sameerk:  try   me-tv
[21:45] <magnetron> sameerk: did you check out tvtime? a search for "tv" in Ubuntu Software Center gives alot of good suggestions, i've heard of people using VLC, kaffeine, mplayer and other apps
[21:45] <vest> hey any girl out there?
[21:45] <Aimee-afk> Yeah, I'm a girl.
[21:45] <Aimee-afk> Also.
[21:46] <uRock> !ot | vest
[21:46] <Aimee-afk> Does anyone know of a package in the ubuntu repos that will let me read my computer's temperature sensors?
[21:46] <sameerk> ok thanks let me try that :)
[21:46] <uRock> computemp
[21:46] <magnetron> Aimee-afk: yes, the lmsensors package
[21:46] <uRock> it is in USC
[21:46] <Aimee-afk> Hm
[21:46] <magnetron> Aimee-afk: i use the sensors-applet for Gnome
[21:46] <Aimee-afk> magnetron: Can i set the refresh rate on that
[21:46] <hiexpo> lib-sensors
[21:47] <Aimee-afk> of how often it asks for new readings
[21:47] <magnetron> Aimee-afk: yes.
[21:47] <Aimee-afk> Cool
[21:47] <Aimee-afk> I'll give it a try
[21:47] <Aimee-afk> magnetron: I can't find lmsensors
[21:47] <magnetron> Aimee-afk: cool? it's over 30°C
[21:47] <Mortan> So noone has any experience using Remote Procedure call via python?
[21:48] <maco> vest: of course there are women here. what do you think it is, a seminary? i dont see how that's anything to do with ubuntu though
[21:48] <magnetron> Aimee-afk: lm-sensors
[21:48] <Aimee-afk> Ah xD
[21:48] <Aimee> Sorry for the nickname, I just got back and didnt change it
[21:48] <Aimee> lol
[21:49] <Aimee> interesting
[21:49] <erUSUL> !away > Aimee
[21:49] <M1DLGpc> I have a xp home partition I've copied to usb hdd, I want to change the folders and file permissions to allow the users folder to be read by the new xp install by all users once that pc has xp reinstalled. how do I change the user permissions using ubuntu?
[21:49] <Aimee> erUSUL: I already had my away thing before I joined
[21:49] <Aimee> So sorry
[21:49] <Aimee> I just use /anick, not /amsg or /ame to announce
[21:50] <erUSUL> Aimee: ok fair enough ;=P
[21:50] <Aimee> Anyhow
[21:50] <Aimee> I already have lm-sensors
[21:50] <Aimee> cute
[21:50] <evil_genius> hi aimee
[21:50] <erUSUL> M1DLGpc: linux can not manipulate windows permissions
[21:51] <evil_genius> hi Aimee
[21:51] <progre55> how to extract files from a tar archive and at the same time delete the archive? due to the lack of space on hd )
[21:51] <magnetron> Aimee: i suggest you also install hddtemp, adds support for SATA/IDE hard drive temperature sensors
[21:51] <M1DLGpc> erUSUL, oh, if I copy the folders to new location can they be removed that way?
[21:51] <magnetron> progre55: weren't you the one trying to pipe a tarball over SSH?
[21:51] <Aimee> hi Evil_genius
[21:52] <Aimee> Ok so
[21:52] <hiexpo> Aimee, type lm-sensors in synaptic see if you have libsensors and applet
[21:53] <progre55> magnetron: yep.. I found this "tar zcvf - SOURCEDIR | ssh user1@remotehost 'cd DESTDIR; tar zxvf - ' " but the files are not preserving ownership.. and I cannot sudo scp, cause my root doesnt have a password
[21:53] <SCD[Eire]> Anyone good with photoshop or gimp etc message me please :P
[21:53] <progre55> magnetron: so now I need to just do this "tar zcvf - SOURCEDIR | ssh user1@remotehost "cat > /DESTDIR/DESTFILE.tar.gz" " and then extract it )
[21:53] <hiexpo> !gimp > SCD[Eire]
[21:53] <acerimmer> re: edubuntu - I'm running a virtual 8.04.1 edubuntu.  At one point it had a simulated ltsp cluster?  Can't seem to find that function now.  HELP!
[21:53] <Aimee> hiexpo, which applet do i want
[21:53] <Aimee> -dev or normal
[21:53] <madfox> porgre55 cant use sudo cause root doesnt have a pass???
[21:53] <Aimee> erm, -plugin0 or -plugin-dev
[21:54] <evil_genius> Aimee just greeted you byee i dont want to populate it bye take care
[21:54] <madfox> porgre55 the whole point of sudo is so you dont need a pass for root :/
[21:54] <tetsuo----> it already found a virus
[21:54] <hiexpo> Aimee, sensors-applet
[21:54] <tetsuo----> :/
[21:54] <Aimee> evil_genius: Okay
[21:54] <magnetron> progre55: you COULD just transfer the tar.gz, log in to the remote machine and extract the archive there (with root permissions)
[21:54] <SCD[Eire]> hiexpo, I know what it is...
[21:54] <hiexpo> SCD[Eire], ok
[21:54] <Aimee> ah ok
[21:54] <SCD[Eire]> I need help doing something with it
[21:54] <Aimee> so I dont have that, I'm installing now
[21:55] <SCD[Eire]> And I can't find a graphic design channel :P
[21:55] <Aimee> SCD[Eire], Try /msg ALIS HELP LIST
[21:55] <BostX> irc://irc.freenode.org/ufoai
[21:55] <realubot> erUSUL: Ok, sorry.
[21:56] <lucascastro> is just check what group take sudo permission on "/etc/sudoers"
[21:56] <Aimee> ok
[21:56] <Aimee> I've installed hddtemp and the applet
[21:56] <lucascastro> and take a look if your use is in its group.
[21:56] <bastidrazor> lucascastro: admin group allows sudo use.
[21:57] <lucascastro> I know.
[21:57] <lucascastro> but I didn't remember what group is in hardy.
[21:57] <avi_> Hello, how can I skin the login screen? I can't find any themes, or a method of installing them.. I would need them to be scalable or native to my resolution. So where can I go to look, and where can I learn how to install? This is Lucid 10.04.1 we're talking about. thanks SO much!!
[21:57] <magnetron> Aimee: it won't be available until you restart gnome-panel
[21:57] <Maahes> gdebi is crashing when it attempts to load a package what can i use to install with, or rather: How do I use dpkg to do this?
[21:58] <Aimee> magnetron: How do I restart gnome-panel... I wish I was joking on asking that but I'm not
[21:58] <tuga3d> hi all, im testing 10.10 beta, what room should i go to talk about?
[21:58] <progre55> magnetron: yea that's what I'm doing now.. so I asked, if it's possible to extract a tar file, and delete the archive at the same time while extracting?
[21:58] <rww> tuga3d: #ubuntu+1
[21:58] <Aimee> I'm having a interesting afternoon if you know what I mean
[21:58] <magnetron> Aimee: i would simply log out and log back in again.
[21:58] <Maahes> Aimee: alt+f2 gnome-panel
[21:58] <tuga3d> rww: thnks
[21:58] <nakhlawi> avi_: get them from art.gnome.org
[21:58] <VCoolio> avi_: gdm2setup can configure some things in the new gdm, find it on launchpad.net
[21:58] <VCoolio> avi_: gdm skins won't work anymore
[21:59] <magnetron> progre55: what, you have lack of hard disk space on BOTH the local AND the remote system?
[21:59] <avi_> VCoolio, That sounds great. I figured that the older stuff wouldn't be compatible with the new lucid GDM thing. I'll install that PPA. Thanks!
[21:59] <pdk> would it be safe to assume that the listings in the wireless compatibility list more or less apply as well to 64 bit lucid
[21:59] <progre55> magnetron: yeah, that's the problem =)
[21:59] <alkisg> What's the recommented way to backup a windows partition? I don't want to use dd to save space, and if possible, I'd like to be able to loop-mount the produced image.
[22:00] <progre55> magnetron: well, my file is 19Gb, but not sure what the tar-gzipped file would be, and I have 25Gb on my remote server..
[22:00] <Aimee> I'll try logging out
[22:00] <magnetron> progre55: well then the easiest way would probably be to enable root logins on the remote systems, disable password logins, and use the original ssh pipe setup
[22:00] <progre55> magnetron: so I'm hoping the tar wont be more than 6 =)
[22:00] <Maahes> alkisg: maybe partition image, lemme check to see if it handles windows
[22:01] <nakhlawi> alkisg: did you try the "simple backup config" in ubuntu?
[22:01] <alkisg> Maahes: partimage does handle ntfs, but it looks a little unmaintained, and clonezilla prefers to use partclone, for which there are no debs around...
[22:01] <alkisg> nakhlawi: no, where's that?
[22:02] <nakhlawi> alkisg: under "system" menu
[22:02] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! How do I set up a folder to sync via ubuntuone with the command line
[22:02] <avi_> VCoolio, Dude that is PERFECT. I'm adding that to ~/notes straight away. Thanks so much!
[22:02] <nakhlawi> alkisg: it seems that you have to mount the windows partition first though
[22:02] <taxdude> anyone else have trouble booting the 10.10 netbook image off a thumb drive?
[22:03] <magnetron> taxdude: yes, not all thumb drives can be booted from. it's a hardware issue.
[22:03] <VCoolio> avi_: no probem, glad to be of assistance
[22:03] <IdleOne> !10.10
[22:03] <taxdude> hmmm... I was able to install 10.04 with a thumb drive
[22:03] <alkisg> nakhlawi: I got localized menus, could you tell me the exact menu path? I can't find it..
[22:03] <Maahes> wait..am I in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-unregged, weechat is confusing me
[22:03] <LjL> Maahes: #ubuntu
[22:04] <nakhlawi> system -> administration -> simple backup config
[22:04] <magnetron> progre55: excuse me, first you said you had a .tar.gz file but now you are saying that you have uncompressed data, that you will compress and then decompress? i am confused
[22:04] <uRock> I get that #ubuntu-unregged thing every other connect also
[22:04] <alkisg> nakhlawi: urm, still can't find it, let me logoff/logon with english menus...
[22:04] <alkisg> thanks
[22:05] <billybigrigger> i know this is a wine related problem, but it's moreso an ubuntu problem, i installed starcraft2 in wine a few weeks ago, using nvidia driver version 256.44, and now updated today to get 256.53, now wine is complaining about an API mismatch, how do i correct this? here is wine's output http://pastebin.ca/1931994
[22:05] <progre55> maagnetron: I'm compressing it on the fly and sending to the remote system as tar.gz and then I'll need to decompress on the remote system )
[22:05] <sameerk> is there anyone in ubuntu to know whether hardware is working like in windows u got device manager with  status window
[22:05] <acerimmer> re: edubuntu - I'm running a virtual 8.04.1 edubuntu.  At one point it had a simulated ltsp cluster?  Can't seem to find that function now.  HELP!
[22:06] <billybigrigger> obviously when 256.53 was installed, rebuilding the dkms modules didn't work correctly i'm assuming?
[22:06] <magnetron> progre55: look, there is no need for that. SSH supports gzip compression transparently
[22:06] <tetsuo----> how do i enable 'backports" repository?
[22:06] <magnetron> progre55: since you are only transferring a single large file
[22:07] <bastidrazor> !backports | tetsuo----
[22:07] <alkisg> nakhlawi: still can't find it, I think you've installed some program which isn't preinstalled by default. Could you run it, then run "ps -ef" and tell me its name, so that I can install it from synaptic?
[22:07] <nakhlawi> gksu simple-backup-config
[22:07] <alkisg> Merci
[22:07] <nakhlawi> alkisg: type this in the terminal: gksu simple-backup-config
[22:07] <alkisg> (package=sbackup, installing...)
[22:07] <tetsuo----> thanks
[22:07] <alkisg> nakhlawi: it's not preinstalled though
[22:08] <nakhlawi> alkisg: then you have to install it.
[22:08] <nakhlawi> but nevertheless, you can choose another backup tool.
[22:09] <nakhlawi> !backup
[22:09] <JohnSQ_> How do I find and access my flash drive from the commandline?
[22:09] <alkisg> nakhlawi: that seems like a file backup program, so if I restore the windows partition with it, it won't be bootable, right?
[22:09] <VCoolio> JohnSQ_: sudo fdisk -l    then mount it?
[22:10] <progre55> maagnetron: no, I'm transfering a whole directory with a bunch of files
[22:10] <JohnSQ_> How do I mount it?
[22:10] <nakhlawi> alkisg: correct, I don't think it will be bootable
[22:10] <nakhlawi> alkisg: dd can ensure it is bootable though
[22:10] <nakhlawi> !backup | alkisg
[22:11] <Aimee> Alright, so... I've restarted, and cool, the applet works
[22:11] <JohnSQ_> VCoolio: How do I mount a flash drive from command line?
[22:11] <lucascastro> JonSQ_ mount /dev/sd /path/where
[22:11] <alkisg> nakhlawi: thanks, I'm looking for some tool for partition backup. dd is a very nice tool but it will give me a 40 GB image instead of a 10 Gb image... I'm looking in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging, thanks...
[22:11] <VCoolio> JohnSQ_: create or choose a folder to mount to that you have access to; then "sudo mount /dev/?? /path/mountfolder -t auto -o user,rw
[22:11] <JohnSQ_> k thnx
[22:11] <hiexpo> Aimee, kool
[22:11] <Aimee> Quick question though
[22:11] <Aimee> What means what..
[22:11] <hiexpo> shoot
[22:11] <nakhlawi> alkisg: you're welcome.
[22:11] <alkisg> OK, so either partimage or dd. I'll go for partimage :)
[22:11] <Aimee> I've got two temp2's
[22:11] <Aimee> apparently
[22:11] <hiexpo> yup
[22:11] <tetsuo----> ive set up the backports but its not listing the expected files, namely clamav unstable builds
[22:12] <Aimee> Is that because I have 1 processor with two logicals/
[22:12] <Aimee> ?
[22:12] <hiexpo> 2 cores ?
[22:12] <Aimee> No, single core
[22:12] <Aimee> Processor is an Intel XEON @ 2.8GHz
[22:13] <hiexpo> what are the dif temps
[22:13] <hiexpo> gpu cpu and cores i have 5
[22:13] <ilovefairuz> !enter | Aimee
[22:14] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! How do I set up a folder to sync via ubuntuone via the commandline? I am using LXDE and things don't appear to be working right...
[22:14] <Humle> Hello basix- and welcome to #ubuntu
[22:14] <basix-> hello
[22:14] <econdudeawesome> perhaps there is an ubuntuone channel?
[22:14] <Humle> Hello josef_ and welcome to #ubuntu
[22:14] <Aimee> omg... im trying to not make every second word on a seperate line ilovefairuz
[22:14] <Humle> Hello OSC and welcome to #ubuntu
[22:14] <basix-> is there a good recommended keystroke logger for ubuntu?
[22:14] <Humle> Hello D3Xifier and welcome to #ubuntu
[22:14] <rww> Humle: don't do that, please
[22:15] <ilovefairuz> Aimee: it's more readable
[22:15] <hiexpo> ilovefairuz, oh come on shes not flooding going back and forth with ?'s and answers
[22:15] <alkisg> Urm, partimage gives me a warning: the current ntfs support is experimental :(
[22:15] <Humle> Hello jangell_ and welcome to #ubuntu
[22:15] <Aimee> ilovefairuz: I have a bad habit of doing it
[22:15] <Aimee> if I do... I'm sorry, but it's just... I'm used to it everywnhere'
[22:16] <nakhlawi> alkisg: NTFS was read-only in the past, I'm not sure about now.
[22:16] <nakhlawi> But if you are using dd, it doesn't matter.
[22:16] <urthmover> odd I'm still trying to get ServerAliveInterval to work right with  an sshfs connection.  No matter where I put it (/root/.ssh/config   /home/username/.ssh/config  /etc/ssh/ssh_config )  the feature does  not seem to actually take effect.  I know this because I can see  ACKs happening every second or so.  Is there something else that  causes sshfs to chatter that I'm not aware of?
[22:16] <incorrect> i have a vm that i am using a file server, i don't really want to use nfs or samba to share files to my ubuntu desktop
[22:16] <incorrect> is there anything else? other than webdav
[22:16] <ubuntu_> undecim, hello
[22:16] <ubuntu_> i'm back
[22:16] <alkisg> nakhlawi: ntfs-3g has good read-write support... but it looks like the partition backup tools are not sure of themselves yet... I'll think about dd vs ghost :-/
[22:17] <magnetron> incorrect: you can use SSH
[22:17] <ubuntu_> iwconfig is still not giving me the interface
[22:17] <incorrect> magnetron, i guess i could use rsync
[22:17] <ariasbeep> hola
[22:17] <urthmover> incorrect: sshfs is a good solution
[22:17] <ariasbeep> como instalo latin1
[22:18] <ariasbeep> solo tengo soporte utf8
[22:18] <lucascastro> ubuntu_: try iwconfig -a
[22:18] <nakhlawi> alkisg: if your NTFS partition is important and that is why you back it up. Don't use Linux to write to that partition, I won't trust it.
[22:18] <Humle> sorry
[22:18] <rww> ubottu: es | ariasbeep
[22:18] <nakhlawi> alkisg: just to be on the safe side.
[22:18] <ubuntu_> lucascastro, no such device
[22:18] <incorrect> urthmover, hmm doesn't seem too bad
[22:18] <ariasbeep> perdon
[22:18] <ariasbeep> me confundí
[22:19] <alkisg> nakhlawi: nah, no data there, just a basic vista installation, to save me the trouble of reinstalling all drivers and sp1/sp2 if I ever want to resinstall.
[22:19] <ariasbeep> como siempre entró
[22:19] <ariasbeep> al canal ubuntu normal
[22:19] <tetsuo----> a new clamav version has been released, but its not on the repository yet, where should i send this message to get it updated/
[22:19] <ariasbeep> pues si
[22:19] <nakhlawi> alkisg: Oh, so you are preparing just a basic install image.
[22:19] <alkisg> Yup
[22:19] <ariasbeep> como instalo latin1 porque solo tengo soporte para utf8
[22:19] <lucascastro> ubuntu_: but, is your Interface  wifi?
[22:20] <ilovefairuz> !es | ariasbeep
[22:20] <rww> ariasbeep: English language only here, please. #ubuntu-es for Spanish.
[22:20] <IdleOne> ariasbeep: por favor entre en el canal #ubuntu-es, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[22:20] <ubuntu_> i'm trying to get my wifi to work
[22:20] <nakhlawi> alkisg: then go ahead and try partimage
[22:20] <tetsuo----> a newer wine version has been released too, so i would like to see that updated too
[22:20] <rww> ubottu: latest | tetsuo----
[22:20] <basix-> can anyone help me with keylogging on ubuntu?
[22:20] <reya2276> Anyone what help channel is for Netbook 10.10
[22:20] <nakhlawi> alkisg: and you can contact its developers for any issues.
[22:21] <uRock> If I wanted to create a script to launch multiple applications at the same time, how would I separate the programs? Example: firefox & pidgin & thunderbird
[22:21] <tetsuo----> !backports
[22:21] <alkisg> nakhlawi: will do, it's much easier for me to do this while working on linux than booting from a cd and waiting for ghost to finish. Thanks again :)
[22:21] <VCoolio> uRock: you said it :D
[22:21] <ubuntu_> lucascastro, i'm using a live cd
[22:21] <ilovefairuz> uRock: firefox; pidgin;     and so on
[22:21] <nakhlawi> alkisg: sure. good luck.
[22:21] <ubuntu_> some of the distros work great on this laptop but ubuntu is not working
[22:21] <uRock> sweet, thanx VCoolio and ilovefairuz
[22:22] <ubuntu_> not recognizing the wireless
[22:22] <guntbert> reya2276: #ubuntu+1
[22:22] <VCoolio> uRock: comm1 & comm2  run at the same time; comm1 && comm2  run 2 if 1 ends successfully
[22:22] <reya2276> Thanks
[22:22] <lucascastro> ubuntu_: which is your card ?
[22:22] <apparle> !compile
[22:23] <ilovefairuz> uRock: '&' will launch a program in the background and proceed to the next one, ';' will make the shell wait for the program to finish and launch the next one
[22:23] <ubuntu_> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[22:23] <Aimee> hiexpo, uhh
[22:23] <Aimee> if you're still there... i'll get a screenshot
[22:23] <basix-> is lkl a good key log program to run in ubuntu?
[22:24] <17SABGB7J> Ubuntu_: I had problems with Broadcom on 10.04 too - had to install ndiswrapper
[22:24] <tetsuo----> woah i didnt know ubuntu didnt do any updates unless security issues are fixed, i though i would just get the latest everything by enabling the unstable channels etc..
[22:24] <Aimee> hiexpo, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6429979/screen-000040.png
[22:24] <ilovefairuz> ubuntu_: install the distro and install all updates
[22:24] <lucascastro> ubuntu_: what ubuntu version are you trying to use?
[22:25] <ubuntu_> but zorin (an ubuntu based) distro works fine
[22:25] <ubuntu_> 10.4
[22:25] <ubuntu_> ilovefairuz, can't install at the moment
[22:25] <ubuntu_> no space
[22:25] <ilovefairuz> ubuntu_: this chipest is supported by the b43 driver, sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:26] <ubuntu_> i installed the bcmwl-kernel-source already
[22:26] <rww> ilovefairuz: bcmwl-kernel-source installs the wl/STA driver, not b43.
[22:26] <ilovefairuz> ubuntu_: or check system > administration > hardware drivers
[22:26] <hiexpo> Aimee, i see 127c thats high is it a lappy?
[22:26] <ubuntu_> when i look at the synaptic it has a check mark
[22:26] <Aimee> hiexpo: No
[22:26] <duffydack> I think STA doesnt support bcm4306
[22:26] <Aimee> hiexpo: Can I PM you
[22:26] <ubuntu_> ilovefairuz, i did that already
[22:26] <rotham> hey... how do I get wireless internet working on virtual systems installed within virtualbox?
[22:26] <duffydack> b43-fwcutter is the only other choice.
[22:26] <hiexpo> Aimee, sure
[22:27] <ubuntu_> duffydack, that is also installed
[22:27] <ubuntu_> has a check mark
[22:28] <ilovefairuz> rww: you're right, i read it off the wiki page, i think it needs to be updated
[22:29] <ilovefairuz> rww: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ... it means the package as a "hybrid" driver
[22:29] <ilovefairuz> mentions **
[22:29] <rww> ilovefairuz: Yeah, it has some wording issues. That section actually installs STA/wl (and thus disables b43)
[22:30] <francesco_> Hello
[22:31] <ilovefairuz> !hi | francesco_
[22:31] <lucascastro> ubuntu_: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1490717
[22:31] <tetsuo----> is there any way to get a ubuntu with bleeding edge software updates
[22:31] <ilovefairuz> ubuntu_: the live cd doesn't have the latest kernel/driver updates
[22:31] <francesco_> nessun italiano?
[22:32] <LjL> !it | francesco_
[22:34] <zfe> may i know why
[22:34] <zfe> the package "kde"
[22:34] <zfe> which would be supposed to be a dummy package
[22:34] <zfe> is not a dummy package at all?
[22:34] <d3mn0id> oh, some action.
[22:34] <xnixan> ilovefairuz, me too love fairuz ;-)
[22:34] <d3mn0id> my e-penis grows.
[22:35] <jinxx> I have a zareason Terra HD, and in Ubuntu, if I close the laptop lid with the power cord plugged in it goes to sleep.  If the cord is unplugged however it doesn't go to sleep.  Is there a fix for this?
[22:35] <d3mn0id> jinxx: power management options
[22:35] <jetsaredim> is there any reason why the software center doesn't seem to honor the network proxy settings?
[22:35] <jinxx> d3mn0id: it says it should go to sleep when the lid is closed
[22:35] <zfe> just like you folks
[22:35] <sometux> I have a shell script which authenticate to twitter and send my server status, but recently theres problem authenticating to Twitter, any ideas?
[22:35] <zfe> you should go to sleep
[22:36] <d3mn0id> jinxx: look at the tabs.
[22:37] <jinxx> d3mn0id: it says "suspend" when laptop lid is closed for both on battery and on AC power.
[22:37] <ubuntu_> lucascastro, i have already look at that thread..
[22:37] <helo_> how can a normal user mount an inserted thumb drive manually (not using gnome)?
[22:37] <d3mn0id> zfe: permanently, i agree.
[22:37] <ubuntu_> ilovefairuz, live cd works with other ubuntu based distro on this same laptop
[22:38] <d3mn0id> zfe: so, what distro do you use then?
[22:38] <zfe> d3mn0id, i did this huge mistake
[22:38] <helo_> i know pmount works, but i'm surprised it isn't installed by default... so perhaps there is a preferred method?
[22:38] <zfe> of installing ubuntu
[22:38] <ubuntu_> one time it said the driver is activated but not in use
[22:38] <ubuntu_> not sure what that means anyway
[22:39] <Monotoko> its in the kernal..but Ubuntu isnt using it
[22:39] <d3mn0id> zfe: oh fuck, i've been there before. do you have an arch linux install cd to help you?
[22:39] <ubuntu_> how can the driver be activated but i still not have the wireless interface in iwconfig
[22:39] <zfe> d3mn0id, i could download it
[22:39] <zfe> and install by night
[22:39] <andybiker> Hi. what is the parental control software?
[22:40] <zfe> but i'm too lazy to make up a kernel that would suit me
[22:41] <d3mn0id> zfe: well, it takes less than a hour to install under normal circumstances... what hectic hardware do you have?
[22:41] <jinxx> Could my suspend problem be caused by something making calls to the CPU?
[22:41] <zfe> d3mn0id, a netbook
[22:42] <d3mn0id> oh fuck, child
[22:42] <d3mn0id> it's over for you
[22:42] <zfe> d3mn0id, eh, i just bricked my macbook
[22:42] <hiku> !lanuage | d3mn0id
[22:42] <hiku> !language | d3mn0id
[22:42] <d3mn0id> ahaha
[22:42] <d3mn0id> ok
[22:42] <d3mn0id> cool
[22:42] <zfe> hiku, what's this, a kindergarten?
[22:43] <hiku> zfe: it's a family channel....keep it clean
[22:43] <zfe> for some reasons apt-get install kubuntu
[22:43] <zfe> installed a new kernel
[22:43] <zfe> quien sabe, really
[22:43] <d3mn0id> zfe: all the little new linux users are sensitive.
[22:43] <zfe> d3mn0id, i see
[22:43] <DIL> hmmm
[22:44] <zfe> i'm missing good old days
[22:44] <zfe> with slack 8.0
[22:44] <zfe> lol
[22:45] <d3mn0id> zfe: i also ran slack for a while. it was quite pleasant. like being frozen in time, in a safehouse that had everything you need.
[22:45] <DIL> went to the corner
[22:45] <zadarmooo> see you later aligator
[22:47] <jesse2> Hello.  Does anyone if ubuntu tweak (0.5.6) works with ubuntu 10.10 beat?
[22:47] <jesse2> err, does anyone *know* if....
[22:48] <hiku> jesse2: try #ubuntu+1
[22:48] <gabox> hi, i'm about to buy a dell studio 15 and i want to know what video card should i choose, the ATI mobility Radeon hd5470 or the intel hd. I had once an ati in ubuntu and it was a pain in the ass. Wich one should i choose? thanks
[22:48] <jesse2> thanks hiku
[22:48] <hiku> jesse2: your welcome
[22:49] <hiku> !ati > gabox
[22:49] <Quantum_Ion> !ati
[22:50] <capio> hello
[22:51] <hiku> !hi | capio
[22:52] <capio> just wonder. is there a way to edit the grub config file from a live cd ? It always reverts back to what it used to be, if i reboot next time again
[22:52] <capio> and update-grub doesnt work because of the chroot environment
[22:52] <guest0000001> i'm using ubuntu 10.4  how do i check my email from the command line?
[22:53] <gabox> ubottu i saw your private message, that site is about how to install drivers. I have trouble choosing a video card.
[22:53] <hiexpo> !email > guest0000001
[22:54] <guest0000001> what does "!email" mean?
[22:54] <guest0000001> just type email?
[22:54] <hiku> gabox: I've used nvidia for years... the driver support is really good now. For ati... all Ican say is good luck. intel...good luck
[22:54] <hiku> !email | guest0000001
[22:54] <hiexpo> guest0000001, was trying something so nothing sorry
[22:55] <hiku> hiexpo: doesn't work
[22:55] <hiexpo> i know
[22:55] <guest0000001> huh?
[22:55] <jun_> !learn sc
[22:55] <BedMan> guest0000001: make sure you have mailutils installed
[22:55] <hiku> guest0000001: you would need to setup or install an email client of your choice. thunderbird is nice.
[22:55] <jun_> !learn sc shit cunts
[22:55] <jun_> lol
[22:55] <guest0000001> ok
[22:55] <VCoolio> guest0000001: try mutt or alpine for cli
[22:55] <guest0000001> ok thank you
[22:55] <BedMan> guest0000001: then you can use mailx from the command line
[22:55] <hiku> !language | jun_
[22:56] <Aimee> hey
[22:56] <Aimee> question about ubottu
[22:56] <Aimee> what kind of bot is it
[22:56] <gabox> hiku, i have an nvidia too, it works very good. The thing is that dell doesn't seem to have notebooks with nvidia any more. Just wanted to know how an intel graphic card works under linux, don't want to make the same mistake again like i did with my desktop pc hehe
[22:56] <jun_> i got something better for you hiku
[22:56] <Aimee> in-house or infobot
[22:56] <Aimee> or something
[22:56] <LjL> Aimee: a supybot. further info in #ubuntu-bots-team
[22:56] <Aimee> LjL: THank you
[22:57] <hiku> gabox: imo, dells aren't that great. try hp/acer/toshiba...
[22:57] <kermit> how do i scan to pdf?
[22:57] <t0maw1> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! t0maw1 skyred JoeSomebody bootdiscerror shiman Vivek amadews nick1_ jsurfer AllRadioisDead tensorpudding emma guest0000001 _dreamy seif daftykins Mikelevel capio Random832 killer999 C-S-B jangell ross_ alpharesearch rockenrola jesse2 crohakon gabox RxDx buntunub ChogyDan dashua iCEAGE Wursti hiku Dfoolz gilaniali pvl1 andybiker webm0nk3y random-jellyfish taget D
[22:57] <t0maw1> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! x-izzy engled erana zonum ryaxnb k1b3r_4r7 rotham RangerBob mangojambo mast` MaximLevitsky iwobbles Barridus zzzed Xerora_^ look Olytibar billybigrigger PlainFlavored ariasbeep sacho psyt7 D3Xifier|afk basix- ring0 AndroidLoverInSF Aimee ubuntu_ lanoxx llua th0r Slix` DDwi HrT ninjai Malkavian__ iredux disturbed_ Lenin_Cat nhandler Phylock Sonderblade emc go|dfi
[22:57] <guest0000001> bedman how do i use mailx?
[22:57] <PlainFlavored> thanx 4 the shoutout~~~
[22:58] <PlainFlavored> -_-
[22:58] <nick1_> ???
[22:58] <nick1_> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/songstumblr/id386723282?mt=8
[22:58] <capio> gabox. i have some dell laptop here
[22:58] <capio> with intel on board
[22:58] <hiexpo> guest0000001, who you use for mail    etc yahoo msn etc ?
[22:58] <capio> i dont have any problems with it
[22:58] <nick1_> chweck it out http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/songstumblr/id386723282?mt=8
[22:58] <BedMan> guest0000001: read the man page :-) man mailx (basicly mailx -s "subject" user@host < file)
[22:58] <capio> tho i dont use it for any good graphic stuff
[22:58] <jun_> dell are for the tip
[22:58] <guest0000001> thank you so much
[22:58] <amadews> hy how can i make pidgin send and recive file bicause i try but  failed  .
[22:58] <jun_> lol
[22:59] <bazhang> jun_, stop that
[22:59] <hiku> jun_: stop trolling plz
[23:00] <hiexpo> guest0000001, i use pidgin for getting my mail
[23:00] <BedMan> I got the impression he wanted to send mail from the command line
[23:01] <BedMan> that's where mailx is good :-)
[23:01] <hiexpo> ya BedMan
[23:01] <BedMan> it sux as a client
[23:01] <hiexpo> i like to keep it simple so pidgin is perfect
[23:02] <Aimee> To be honest
[23:02] <BedMan> pidgin == simple? I wouldn't say that
[23:02] <Aimee> I use thunderbird
[23:02] <Aimee> But thunderbird for linux seems to have a problem with fetching my mail server config
[23:02] <BedMan> heh - I use gmail :-P
[23:02] <hiku> gmail rocks
[23:02] <BedMan> nod
[23:02] <Aimee> I use my own domain powered by google apps
[23:02] <Lxndr> I have ubuntu pre-installed on my Dell laptop. I have a wireless mouse. When I type, half the time I accidentally bump that damned touch-pad and things go crazy. Can I make it so that any touchpad input is ignored without interfering with the USB mouse input? How?
[23:03] <Aimee> Lxndr: Some laptops have a button or a function to disable your touchpad
[23:03] <Aimee> Look for it on yours
[23:03] <crohakon> I tried evolution... I have three email accounts, 2 of which are pop accounts. Evolution wanted to force all three accounts to use the same inbox. So I went back to thunderbird.
[23:03] <BedMan> Lxndr: alternately - uninstall the driver
[23:03] <Aimee> that too
[23:03] <guest0000001> what do i type to read my email with mailx at the command line?
[23:03] <BedMan> Lxndr: be carefull doing so
[23:03] <BedMan> guest0000001: do you really want to use a character mode mail program?
[23:03] <guest0000001> yes
[23:03] <Aimee> BedMan: I'd rather Lxndr try to find out if he can just disable input via the touchpad
[23:04] <guest0000001> i do
[23:04] <hiku> Lxndr: the default settings that I see with 10.04 with all the updates is that under System>Prefs>Mouse, click 3rd tab, and the options to disable touchpad are checked.
[23:04] <hiexpo> set up pidgin right and it works right i use it for facebook , msn , yahoo , twitter = all in one and get my email from each one also
[23:04] <BedMan> guest0000001: I'd suggest elm... or pine over mailx
[23:04] <jinxx> My ubuntu install on a Terra HD refuses to suspend when I close the laptop lid.  The settings are all correct according to gnome-power-manager.  Also, it sometimes fails to boot with the message: "(process (290)): glib-warning: getpwuid-r (): failed due to unknown user id (0)"
[23:04] <guest0000001> ok installing pine now
[23:04] <hiku> BedMan: pine is no more.... "Alpine" is now the new flavor...
[23:04] <mininessie> is there an easy to install epsxe
[23:04] <jinxx> is there any fix for this?
[23:04] <BedMan> hiku: I'm old school... :-)
[23:04] <hiku> BedMan: hehe me to
[23:05] <BedMan> hiku: some guy named al took over pine? :-p
[23:05] <guest0000001> ok my ubuntu 10.4 doesn't have pine
[23:05] <hiku> BedMan: new project maintainers renamed it
[23:05] <hiku> guest0000001: sudo apt-get install alpine
[23:05] <guest0000001> but it does have alpine
[23:05] <guest0000001> ok
[23:05] <hiku> guest0000001: one in the same
[23:05] <BedMan> there ya go
[23:06] <guest0000001> ok it's installed
[23:06]  * BedMan always hated pico
[23:06] <hiexpo> has ubuntu figured out the fix to fetch messages from twitter yet ?
[23:06] <mininessie> is there an easy to install epsxe
[23:06] <rockenrola> How do I make changes in gnome to all users. For example, if I want all users to show seconds in their clocks. Basically where are the gnome defaults?
[23:06] <crohakon> BedMan, I always like pico... really easy and quick.
[23:07] <hiexpo> oh with pidgin
[23:07] <BedMan> crohakon: I'ma vim guy :-)
[23:07] <hiku> guest0000001: you might want to read up on this for configuring alpine - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=596964
[23:07] <crohakon> BedMan, of course, now I use nano. If I want something complex I will open open office. ;)
[23:07]  * BedMan shivvers
[23:07] <BedMan> office?
[23:07] <office> ?
[23:07] <hiku> crohakon: BedMan Vi is quick..
[23:07] <office> ;p
[23:08] <BedMan> uh uh hiku
[23:08] <crohakon> *blinks*
[23:08] <Leroy> vi ftw!
[23:08] <guest0000001> do i have to setup alpine?
[23:08] <BedMan> office: sorry - crohakon mentioned using office for complex tasks...
[23:08] <hiku> guest0000001: yes, follow the link I just pasted
[23:08] <guest0000001> with an email account
[23:08] <mininessie> any good easy to install playstation 1 emulator
[23:08] <bodwick> mininessie: download binaries form epsxe site?
[23:09] <crohakon> I wish linux distilled whiskey and dispensed it from a tap on the side of my laptop.
[23:09] <Knat> I found a package for creting QR code barcodes in ubuntu, but I cant for the life of me find anything that decodes them, all the projects I find are for cellphones, I need something i can run cli that reads a qr code from an image
[23:09] <psyt7> is it possible to lower the brightness levels even less than default min settings in ubuntu lucid?
[23:09] <guest0000001> thank you so much you guys are so helpful
[23:09] <BedMan> crohakon: you could use the heat generated from the CPU to make a still...
[23:09] <hiexpo> i did make a patch to fix twitter in pidgin < messenger fetch
[23:09] <johnc> I'm new at ubuntu...Somebody could save me loads of time...so I downloaded Firefox Thunderbird. How do I install it? I see th files and directories, Location: /thunderbird/
[23:10] <mininessie> any good easy to install playstation 1 emulator
[23:10] <Thriftn> ubuntu rocks
[23:10] <bodwick> mininessie http://www.epsxe.com/files/epsxe160lin.zip
[23:10] <hiku> johnc: all you need to do is open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[23:10] <BedMan> guest0000001: Good luck :)
[23:11] <Chr|s> Or look in the Ubuntu Software Center
[23:11] <crohakon> johnc, install via Ubuntu Software Center and they will automatically be in your applications menu under internet... but wait... firefox comes default!
[23:11] <hiku> Yup
[23:11] <hiku> crohakon: thunderbird
[23:11] <jun_> use it!!!!!! /[^\x00-\x20()@,;:".[\]\x7f-\xff]+(?:\.[^\x00-\x20()@,;:".[\]\x7f-\xff]+)*\@[^\x00-\x20()@,;:".[\]\x7f-\xff]+(?:\.[^\x00-\x20()@,;:".[\]\x7f-\xff]+)+/i
[23:11] <BedMan> someone with powah please !kb jun_
[23:12] <crohakon> Oh, see... I thought it was "Mozilla Thunderbird" and "Mozilla Firefox" not "Firefox Thunderbird" ;) My bad.
[23:12] <johnc> Thanks guys. I'll look for the 101 tutorial next...
[23:12] <crohakon> My statement still stands.
[23:12] <jun_> read it properly
[23:12] <SkaterP> :D
[23:12] <look> jun_, stop that
[23:12] <cjTheN00b> hi all
[23:12] <SkaterP> hi
[23:12] <bodwick> mininessie you may also try pcsx http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pcsx&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[23:12] <cjTheN00b> if my nick doesn't say it enough I need serious help...
[23:12] <hiku> thank you bazhang
[23:12] <crohakon> johnc,  click on the applications menu and go to the bottom of the menu ... you see Ubuntu Software Center? Open it.
[23:13] <Chr|s> cjTheN00b: just ask your question :)
[23:13] <cjTheN00b> beyond that of rtfm or here's the link
[23:13] <crohakon> johnc, once it is open, search for Thunderbird. It will appear in the list. Click on it... click install... boom your done.
[23:13] <bazhang> cjTheN00b, that's not acceptable dont use that acronym here
[23:13] <cjTheN00b> what's the fastest way to build a complete offline repository for 10.04
[23:13] <bazhang> cjTheN00b, apt-mirror perhaps
[23:14] <johnc> crohakon: Done
[23:14] <hiku> cjTheN00b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[23:14] <cjTheN00b> bazhang, which acronym was inappropriate? I apologize
[23:14] <IdleOne> cjTheN00b: complete? I don't think you will have enough storage
[23:14] <crohakon> johnc, so.. I helped? I actually helped someone! Damn, i'm gettin good at this.
[23:14] <IdleOne> see apt-mirror or aptoncd
[23:14] <cjTheN00b> I have a 1TB of free space
[23:14] <BedMan> crohakon: not really :-p but you fake it well :-)
[23:15] <crohakon> BedMan, I.. I can live with that. ;)
[23:15] <seymourbuttz> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! seymourbuttz amosk AllRadioisDead zzzed figure002 RxDx progre55_ frobisher MaximLevitsky undecim Vivek JoeSomebody IVBela ANTRat vitor-br cjTheN00b alfonzo1955 halvors johnc Aframester AndrewMC ThomasB2k Kaie` rottenese mininessie jinxx Lxndr Knat Chr|s olvap erana Crankygeek01 skyred bootdiscerror shiman jsurfer tensorpudding _dreamy seif daftykins Mikelevel capio Random832 
[23:15] <_dreamy> hi .. anyone helping ? how can i install e17 on lucid lynx?
[23:15] <Chr|s> ...
[23:15] <IdleOne> !e17 | _dreamy
[23:15] <magnetron> Knat: there's a library called 'libdecodeqr' which can be used to decode QR codes, but there's no application that uses them. if you have development skills you could go that route, otherwise you could maybe hire someone to develop an app for your needs.
[23:15] <IdleOne> _dreamy: that wasn't helpful, sorry
[23:15] <_dreamy> ops:)
[23:16] <cjTheN00b> maybe I was incorrect when I said "Complete" what I mean is all packages available for install
[23:16] <_dreamy> !repo
[23:16] <hiku> _dreamy: e16 is in the repo's, e17 is in development, so you would need to compile it by hand
[23:16] <bazhang> _dreamy, you'd need to get their repo for that
[23:16] <BedMan> cjTheN00b: if you're connected, it can just use the internet to download desired packages
[23:17] <VCoolio> _dreamy: there is a script you can use (called easy_e17.sh), the precompiled packages are probably outdated unless they already have them for the alpha release that was last week
[23:17] <BedMan> cjTheN00b: just like windoze
[23:17] <IdleOne> _dreamy: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/05/howto-install-e17-from-svnsource-on.html
[23:17] <BedMan> crohakon: I cand live with that distinction as well :)
[23:17] <cjTheN00b> I'm connected right now but I have to drive 10 miles to a coffee shop for connect. seems a bit much just to get an install every now and then
[23:17] <F4RR4R> Anyone have experience setting up topal to link alpine & gpg?
[23:17] <MarkSS> How do I mount a flash drive in Ubuntu?
[23:18] <_dreamy> hiku, maybe thats the reazon why.. there are so few e17 repositorys on the web
[23:18] <VCoolio> MarkSS: sudo fdisk -l    then mount it
[23:18] <_dreamy> k ty everyone
[23:18] <th0r> cjTheN00b: you going to download a mirror from a coffee shop?
[23:18] <MarkSS> Can you please be more specific?
[23:18] <BedMan> cjTheN00b: make sure you have the full CD's then, and hope you don't need anything else
[23:18] <AndrewMC> MarkSS~ you do VCoolio's command in terminal
[23:18] <MarkSS> That doesn't work
[23:18] <BedMan> cjTheN00b: sucks that you don't have an internet connect at home :(
[23:18] <jinxx> My ubuntu install on a Terra HD refuses to suspend when I close the laptop lid.  The settings are all correct according to gnome-power-manager.  Also, it sometimes fails to boot with the message: "(process (290)): glib-warning: getpwuid_r (): failed due to unknown user id (0)".  Is there a fix for this?
[23:18] <AndrewMC> MarkSS~ then mount it in "computer"
[23:19] <cjTheN00b> MarkSS, plug flash drive in, then click places and see if your flash drive appears...
[23:19] <root> hey fuckers
[23:19] <MarkSS> I only have access to terminal.  Trying to fix low-graphics mode error
[23:19] <AndrewMC> !language | root
[23:19] <VCoolio> MarkSS: it's a small L there, not a one or capital i
[23:19] <cjTheN00b> ahhh...
[23:19] <BedMan> jinxx: most likely you have a hardware issue with your laptop :(
[23:20] <jinxx> BedMan: it should work, it's a Zareason Terra HD...
[23:20] <jinxx> also it shuts off the screen when I put the lid down
[23:20] <jinxx> just no suspend
[23:20] <BedMan> jinxx: I'm no expert in the subject, just I've had laptops fail to do what you expect when the lid is closed
[23:20] <cjTheN00b> MarkSS, do you know the "device name" listed by ubuntu?
[23:20] <cjTheN00b> if so try mount device name
[23:20] <BedMan> jinxx: and it's usually a problem in either the bios or the switch isn't working anymore...
[23:20] <MarkSS> looks like dev/sdd
[23:20] <Belboz99> Hey all, I need to edit ~/.gnomerc, is that file still current in 10.04?
[23:21] <MarkSS> oh wait
[23:21] <cjTheN00b> MarkSS,  type lsusb
[23:21] <MarkSS> /dev/sdd1
[23:21] <VCoolio> MarkSS: then: sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /folder/you/like -t auto -o user,rw
[23:21] <jinxx> BedMan: According to Zareason, this has been fixed for Ubuntu
[23:22] <nat682> Belboz99: When you say "current", do you mean the contents of the file are still up to date? They should be if you have updated your software recently
[23:22] <meera> am i acceptet in this channel or why do i always have a message this channel is logged?
[23:22] <BedMan> jinxx: then it sounds like you're more knowledgeable than I :-)
[23:22] <pdk> meera the message is automatic
[23:22] <cjTheN00b> would some one please pm me w/ respect to offline repo
[23:22] <pdk> shows it for everyone when they join
[23:23] <MarkSS> Thanks!  Found it!
[23:23] <meera> thanxx
[23:23] <affordable> Can someone give me a command to change a folder and all subfolders permissions to a user rather than only root?
[23:23] <Belboz99> nat682, I mean I can't find the file, and I'm making sure it's still a relevant file, as in,  Ubuntu didn't start using something else for desktop app scripts
[23:23] <bastidrazor> meera: this channel is logged.
[23:23] <cjTheN00b> I've tried apt-mirror and it lists 64.4GB of dl...
[23:23] <Belboz99> nat682: or change the location :P
[23:23] <BedMan> affordable: read the man page on chmod (particularly the -R option)
[23:23] <cjTheN00b> my connect will only dl @ 170kbps
[23:24] <affordable> BedMan: thanks
[23:24] <cjTheN00b> I'm looking at weeks using apt-mirror
[23:24] <BedMan> affordable: and if that's not enough... check into find
[23:24] <th0r> cjTheN00b: that's why I asked about using a coffee shop...a mirror is a large collection
[23:24] <VCoolio> affordable: you could do sudo chown -R user:user /folder    <-- switches owner, same permissions
[23:24] <BedMan> affordable: np - gl
[23:24] <cjTheN00b> th0r I apologize I didn't see your question
[23:24] <sooli> Hi all, I just did a  do-release-upgrade (karmic -> lucid) on my dedicated server. everything went ok, I said yes for rebooting .... but my server don't reboot ! any idea ? anyone had the same issue ?
[23:25] <affordable> thanks all, appreciate the help.
[23:25] <nat682> Belboz99: it is a hidden file. I don't remember how to view hidden files with ls, just try reading man ls. or maybe there is an option in the gui to view hidden files
[23:25] <Belboz99> nat682: basically, Mythbuntu is auto-loading, and crashing the destkop with it, the documentation says to edit that file, which I can't locate
[23:25] <BedMan> VCoolio: (that should be user:group, btw)
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> sooli: what messages do you see on boot?
[23:25] <Belboz99> nat682: of course it's hidden, it's a dot file ;)
[23:25] <glebihan> Belboz: ls -a to see hidden files
[23:26] <sooli> ActionParsnip: I don't see anything ... it's a dedicated server ... but there is nothing on logs
[23:26] <cjTheN00b> th0r, pm please
[23:26] <glebihan> Belboz99: ls -a to see hidden files
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> sooli: you'll need to see the screen to see whats going on
[23:26] <nat682> Belboz99: so you don't have access to the gui?
[23:26] <Belboz99> nat682: check your home dir, see if you see a .gnomerc file in there, because I've checked both of my systems here, nada
[23:27] <Belboz99> nat682: I'm ssh'ing in through my laptop
[23:27] <small> hello
[23:27] <BedMan> Belboz99: .gnomerc is only created if you change your personal options to be different from the golbal default
[23:27] <BedMan> small: hi
[23:27] <small> I need to set a network path to a folder in ubuntu 10.04 how would I find out the path
[23:28] <alkamid> hello
[23:28] <nat682> Belboz99: I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 and the file doesn't exist.
[23:28] <BedMan> small: what kind of network path? using NFS or SMB?
[23:28] <Belboz99> exactly!
[23:28] <glebihan> small: you mean you want to share a folder over network ?
[23:28] <Exzi> I'm using lubuntu currently.
[23:28] <Belboz99> so, how do I follow this documentation:  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Auto_Login#GDM_configuration ???
[23:28] <small> yes i need to shre a folder on a network
[23:28] <nat682> does anyone know how to exit a man page without completely closing the terminal
[23:29] <VCoolio> Belboz99: I haven't read the link, but I guess you don't
[23:29] <terrence> Hi - How do I get tvtime to play DSTV
[23:29] <alkamid> I access my webui through a socket on my host mashine with https://localhost/rutorrent
[23:29] <VCoolio> Belboz99: use gdm2setup from launchpad.net, old gdm skins don't work anymore
[23:29] <glebihan> small: with nautilus, you can do it by right-clicking on the folder and going to the "Share "tab
[23:29] <Belboz99> wait, I might have an idea
[23:29] <alkamid> how to get access from the web if my host is visible at myname.dns.com ?
[23:29] <titeuf_87> nat682, type q
[23:29] <Belboz99> Mythtv might be running as a different user
[23:29] <alkamid> and I can ssh it with user@myname.dns.com
[23:30] <terrence> Hi all
[23:30] <glebihan> small: i mean go to properties and then "Share" tab
[23:30] <nat682> titeuf_87: okay thanks!
[23:31] <small> ok and once I share the folder what path do i put in the program so that program knows the path to the files
[23:31] <glebihan> alkamid: http://myname.dns.com/rutorrent ?
[23:31] <Raj1> Hi
[23:31] <terrence> I'm running ubuntu studio 10.4, TV cad installed and works with TV 1,2,3, but won't play dstv
[23:32] <Raj1> I am using phone
[23:32] <glebihan> small: \\computer-name\share-name
[23:32] <small> ok thank you gleb
[23:32] <glebihan> small: you're welcome
[23:33] <dlarmeir> @nat682 use q
[23:33] <MrWilly> got a bit of a problem with my Karmic upgrade.  post-upgrade, all file associations appear to be lost, and everything tries to open in gedit.  any ideas what went wrong?
[23:33] <bugs_bugger> hi
[23:34] <r6> how can you run IRC with proxy?
[23:34] <r6> everytime I try I get K-lined by proxy scanners
[23:34] <magnetron> r6: please ask about this in #freenode
[23:35] <r6> okey
[23:35] <bugs_bugger> what programm manages bootscreen display in lucid lynx?
[23:35] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: plymouth
[23:35] <glebihan> bugs_bugger: if you mean to configure it, there isn't really any
[23:36] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: thanks
[23:36] <bugs_bugger> glebihan: no, i wanted to know if there were any known bugs with nvidia cards
[23:36] <glebihan> bugs_bugger: ok, so it's plymouth as mentioned
[23:37] <glebihan> bugs_bugger: and there are bugs
[23:37] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: the proprietary driver from Nvidia doesn't have KMS support, which means that it doesn't support the pretty boot splash screens
[23:38] <_dreamy> if the Elightenment packages im about to install , are not equivelent to the Lucid Lynx, will i get some kind of error?
[23:38] <rdavila> Hi folks, any idea why 1280x800 isn't available in resolution list (nvidia)?
[23:38] <_dreamy> can i install them?
[23:38] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: wait a sec....you mean the non glx packages in the repo?
[23:39] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: i don't understand your question
[23:39] <glebihan> rdavila: did you install nvidia drivers ?
[23:39] <rdavila> I've a Nvidia card: Quadro NVS 140M
[23:39] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: e.g. nvidia current?
[23:39] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: what's your question?
[23:39] <rdavila> glebihan: yes
[23:40] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: are there any non proprietary nvidia drivers in the repos?
[23:40] <ninjai> sort of off topic, anyone know of a decent php irc channel?
[23:40] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: eg. the glx packages
[23:40] <LjL> ninjai: ##php
[23:40] <ninjai> LjL: thanks
[23:40] <glebihan> rdavila: and you have access to that resolution with another system ?
[23:40] <ninjai> LjL: apparently its in overflow :(
[23:40] <litropy> Hi, peeps. I've got a script that spoofs my mac address that runs on startup: http://pastebin.com/kaPpG7CD and while it does change my mac, and NetworkManager does attempt to connect, something stops it from going through with the connection, I get the network key prompt with the _correct_ WPA key sitting in the passphrase textbox. I have tried a variety of things, including telling...
[23:40] <litropy> ...NetworkManager to restart, but it's not until I use the switch on my laptop to toggle the card on/off that I successfully connect. I'm thinking it MIGHT be that when I toggle the card, it reloads the drivers and that's what the issue is, but I haven't found a way to verify. I thank you for your help in advance.
[23:41] <LjL> ninjai: you need to be registered to join it
[23:41] <rdavila> glebihan: yes, under win xp
[23:41] <LjL> !register > ninjai
[23:41] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: yes, the default nouveau driver is free = non-proprietary. if you disable 'nvidia-current' in the 'hardware drivers' tool you will switch back to nouveau. however, nouveau currently lacks working accelerated 3D support
[23:41] <litropy> this is an Atheros card running ath9k.
[23:41] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: meaning compiz wont look so nice, will it?
[23:41] <th0r> litropy: I think you will find when you toggle the card you reset the mac address
[23:41] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: compiz won't work at all.
[23:42] <litropy> thor: this is actually, surprisingly, not true.
[23:42] <glebihan> rdavila: unfortunately, you card seems to be poorly supported by ubuntu
[23:42] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: that sucks
[23:42] <MrWilly> got a bit of a problem with my Karmic upgrade.  post-upgrade, all file associations appear to be lost, and everything tries to open in gedit.  any ideas what went wrong?
[23:42] <cjTheN00b> is there an xirc plugin that is capable of running mirc scripts?
[23:42] <cjTheN00b> err xirc* = x-chat
[23:43] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: is there any possibility to patch plymouth up or to switch to the programm formerly used in karmic?
[23:43] <litropy> thor: and just to close that route, my router has no MAC filtering settings applied.
[23:43] <lubuser> hi, I reported a bug fix
[23:43] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: it's more of a problem with the Nvidia driver
[23:43] <lavish> hi all
[23:43] <lux-b> hi I have a question about installation requirements for SPSS software from IBM, I am not Linux expert and cannot determine whether my installation of lucid meets this software's requirements for Glibc 2.8, Libstdc++6 and XFree86-4.7. If anyone can tell me how I would determine this would be most grateful.
[23:44] <wardan7> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! wardan7 deusr Jeruvy small lavish capio aganice Mete40 nik_ lubuser bcbc2 avdi Guest19430 ubuntu_ Maahes dnp uRock Fr3d0 C-S-B lux-b shcherbak TheFuzzball rdavila bugs_bugger MrWilly itsux2bu MadAGu cheasee FrozenFire[work] ludri7 CodingDistrict litropy erana ant30 billy rottenese1 trigrou sooli affordable raj_ WindPower glebihan HaRiTh Vivek emma mindnull jhu
[23:44] <wardan7> NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ! ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! amosk AllRadioisDead zzzed figure002 RxDx progre55_ frobisher MaximLevitsky undecim JoeSomebody IVBela ANTRat vitor-br cjTheN00b halvors johnc Aframester AndrewMC ThomasB2k Kaie` Knat Chr|s olvap Crankygeek01 skyred bootdiscerror shiman tensorpudding _dreamy seif daftykins Mikelevel Random832 alpharesearch rockenrola crohakon buntunub ChogyDan iCEAGE hiku Dfoo
[23:44] <FrozenFire[work]> Seriously. Are they still at it?
[23:44] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: either you wait for Nouveau getting 3D support, or you wait for nvidia-current to get KMS support :/ probably will take 1-2 years
[23:44] <MrWilly> FrozenFire[work], what's all that about, anyways?
[23:45] <AndrewMC> FrozenFire[work]~ just ignore it it happens and we just have to deal with it
[23:45] <small> I have the name of my computer and the folder that i need the network path for is on my desktop but i tells me that the network path does not exist
[23:45] <litropy> FrozenFire[work]: I know wtf is this **** anyway
[23:45] <uRock> Someone really loves Furher
[23:45] <magnetron> FrozenFire[work]: seems like Argentina holds a grudge
[23:45] <FrozenFire[work]> I suspect it's some guy who's butthurt about getting g-lined or something.
[23:45] <MrWilly> small, trying to access a file share?
[23:45] <lavish> I'm using ubuntu 10.04, there's the need of installing at least hplip 3.10.4... is there any repository with backports of hplip?
[23:45] <small> yes
[23:46] <litropy> magnetron, FrozenFire[work]: does freenode have an IP banning policy?
[23:46] <MrWilly> small, computer name might not work, if it doesn't resolve to an IP address
[23:46] <MrWilly> small, might be better off just using the IP in the network patch in place of the computer name
[23:46] <magnetron> litropy: you should ask #freenode, i'm sure they are working on it
[23:46] <MrWilly> s/patch/path
[23:46] <FrozenFire[work]> litropy, The issue is that they're using some form of proxy service, so that it's impossible to ban them permanently.
[23:46] <FrozenFire[work]> Someone needs to set +r here.
[23:47] <small> if my computer name is ubuntu and the file is located at home/bradley/desktop what would the file path be
[23:47] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: i wouldn't mind having no properly displayed bootscreen but i also can't use the terminal that is accessible via ALT + F1
[23:47] <bazhang> FrozenFire[work], lets move on please
[23:47] <Exzi> Hey guys, what distro would you recommend for an older machine that has only 370MB of RAM?
[23:47] <bugs_bugger> magnetron:  as to waiting till there is a fix: weird thing, i just found this on webupd8: http://tinyurl.com/3yzzyh6
[23:47] <MrWilly> small, need the ip address.  it'd be ip:/home/bradley/desktop/file.xtn
[23:47] <litropy> FrozenFire[work]: that's horrible. what the hell happened, anyway?
[23:48] <bazhang> litropy, get back on topic please
[23:48] <small> ok
[23:48] <small> thank you
[23:48] <th0r> Exzi: I run xubuntu in a vm with only 384M
[23:48] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: i use CTRL + ALT + F1 to switch from X to first virtual terminal
[23:48] <MrWilly> got a bit of a problem with my Karmic upgrade.  post-upgrade, all file associations appear to be lost, and everything tries to open in gedit.  any ideas what went wrong?
[23:48] <AndrewMC> Exzi~ try xubuntu or lubuntu both are pretty lightweight
[23:49] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: yeah, i meant that. didnt know the name at the time
[23:49] <burner> anyone recommend a good mail checking app that runs all the time and checks imap accounts?
[23:49] <Exzi> Okay, thanks th0r and AndrewMC. :]
[23:49] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: AND i misstook the hotkey ^^
[23:49] <jesse2> Hello.  How do i display thumbnails of video files in the file manager? thanks
[23:49] <lavish> burner: mutt, even if it's not what you are looking for ;)
[23:49] <burner> mail-notification and gnubiff both failed miserably trying to connect to my exchange 2010's imap server :\
[23:49] <burner> lol
[23:50] <glebihan> jesse2: is nautilus your file manager ?
[23:50] <jesse2> yes
[23:50] <lavish> burner: it's an app, it runs all the time and checks imap accounts
[23:50] <lavish> burner: am I wrong? :P
[23:50] <burner> lavish: I'm rocking tbird now, but what i really want is a little gnubiff like app that i can double-click to launch a browser to webmail
[23:50] <glebihan> jesse2: go to preferences -> Preview tab
[23:50] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: anyways, ill try the solution on webupd8. hopefully i'll be back in a few minutes reporting my success ^^ btw: are you using compiz?
[23:50] <lavish> burner: forget the mouse
[23:50] <lavish> :P
[23:51] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: i prefer to not use compiz
[23:51] <jesse2> glebihan: thanks.  i have show thumbnails "always" and only for files smaller than 4gb, but still no dice even after a reboot
[23:51] <moon`> I've looked on the forums and read the logs wiki but I didn't ever see something that said specifically what to look for when reading logs or give any good explanations/tutorials on what logs to read and what to look for.  Does anyone have any links to recommends for linux logs and what to be looking for?
[23:51] <moon`> or just any tips in general?
[23:52] <glebihan> jesse2: check if you have gnome-video-thumbnailer or ffmpeg-thumbnailer installed
[23:52] <th0r> burner: you might take a look at the windowmaker dockapps (wm*), I think there is one to monitor imap accounts, and I think there is a gadget to allow you to run wm dockapps as gnome panel applets
[23:52] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: just curious. i love it. got it configured so that i have individual wallpapers on eacht side of the desktop cube and im using screenlets to still have desktop icons. thats why i want to keep compiz. but im spamming the channel :-S see you in a few mins
[23:52] <th0r> burner: also, there is, if I remember correctly, a plugin for gkrellm that monitors imap as well
[23:53] <jesse2> glebihan: i have ffmpegthumbnailer, however, i dont see gnome-video-thumbnailer
[23:53] <magnetron> bugs_bugger: feel free to hop in #ubuntu-offtopic for some social chat
[23:53] <Drewsky4evar> Whats up people
[23:53] <glebihan> jesse2: just checked, now it's totem-video-thumbnailer
[23:53] <bugs_bugger> magnetron: i know about the offtopic ^^
[23:54] <Drewsky4evar> Anyone cant wait for larderon to come out on beta
[23:54] <litropy> Hi, peeps. I've got an issue with spoofing my Atheros wireless card. See here, and thanks in advance: http://pastebin.com/jjKM1XD1
[23:54] <jesse2> glebihan: hmm, i dont see that one here, either
[23:55] <glebihan> jesse2: do you have totem installed ?
[23:55] <jesse2> glebihan: sure do
[23:55] <glebihan> jesse2: then you should have totem-video-thumbnailer, it's part of the package
[23:56] <small> how do i find out what my ip address is for the network path would it be listed in ifconfig
[23:56] <phychole> hey can i broadcast my radio from linux
[23:56] <jesse2> glebihan: hmm, i dont see it.  i tried variations of search in synaptic for it. i  am running the 10.10 beta, so perhaps its part of a different package
[23:56] <phychole> what must i do for its?
[23:56] <th0r> small: yes, ifconfig should show the ip
[23:56] <j0rg3> Hello gang!  My question is probably a no-brainer for somebody here.  I'm going to use my machine via XDMCP often enough that I don't want X11 to start automatically, I just wanna go to CLI and type 'startx' if I'm gonna use it.  I'm running 10.04 but scored a big Google-FAIL when I tried to find the answer myself.
[23:57] <oracle> ubuntu!for humans!
[23:57] <glebihan> jesse2: maybe you should ask on #ubuntu+1 then
[23:57] <bazhang> !nox | j0rg3
[23:57] <jesse2> will do, thanks
[23:57] <glebihan> jesse2: you're welcome
[23:57] <phychole> anybody can help me
[23:57] <th0r> j0rg3: forwarding X over ssh would be much preferable to XDMCP
[23:57] <phychole> ?
[23:58] <j0rg3> Sweet!  A bot answered my question?  That's awesome!
[23:58]  * phychole want be broadcast radio from linux
[23:58] <th0r> j0rg3: then you don't even have to startx on the remote machine if I remember right
[23:58] <j0rg3> th0r: I couldn't get everything I wanted to run with X forwarding.
[23:58] <glebihan> j0rg3: because bazhang told him to
[23:59] <j0rg3> NetBeans worked out okay, but I think Chromium pitched a fit.
[23:59] <sooli> Hi all, after an upgrade my server is blocked on that : "INIT plymouth-splash main process init: plymouth main process (1234) killed by SEGV signal
[23:59] <sooli> any idea ?
[23:59] <j0rg3> Okay, glebihan, I guess that's a little less magical.