[02:00] <xGrind> xubuntu 10.10 beta?
[02:07] <charlie-tca> yup
[02:08] <charlie-tca> more in #ubuntu+1 for development version
[02:45] <DeMais> Hi :) I'm trying to mount a direcory from my mac on xubuntu using sftp. ssh from the terminal works fine, ftp works fine but sftp = no go. Anybody got clues?
[06:04] <shootmeplz> hey anyone active tonight?
[06:04] <shootmeplz> I need a quick answer for my preseedfile..
[06:05] <shootmeplz> hhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo????????????? :)
[06:06] <shootmeplz> either this is broke or everyonesout parting tongiht
[08:21] <nikolam> I wonder where "switch user option is gone i xubuntu/xfce. I found out that it is present only when unlocking locked machine with ctrl-alt-del. AndEven with that I needed to install gnome-screensaver, because in Xubuntu 10.04.64bit, xscreensaver is just reporting an error when trying to do "switch user" if desktop is locked.
[08:25] <Sysi> nikolam: you can add button in panel for that
[08:25] <zoredache> Is it possible to load an alternate configuration with a command line option for with xfce4-panel instead of ~/.config/xfce4/panel?
[08:26] <Sysi> zoredache: may i ask why?
[08:26] <nikolam> Sysi, but I think I also need to report that xscreensaver switch bug. I would like button for "switch user" is present as one of options in default shutdown/logout window (like, i think it was there before?)
[08:28] <Sysi> seems there isn't anymore, even if was earlier (i don't remember there would have, but i still don't need it)
[08:28] <nikolam> Seems like another bug/wishlist to post.
[08:29] <zoredache> Sysi: so I have my desktop with the pannels configured one way, but I also leave a VNC sesession running that I connect to from remotely...
[08:30] <zoredache> I also occasionally will ssh in from another machine with X11 forwarded.  I want to startup a small pannel with a couple launchers that is just the set of tools I use remotely
[08:30] <zoredache> or as an alternative, is there a way to specify what panels I want loaded from the command line?
[08:32] <Sysi> i don't think xfce supports that, but you could try #xfce
[08:32] <Sysi> using different user is maybe (bad) workaround
[08:33] <zoredache> What I could do, but really don't want to is simply create a seperate account...
[08:33] <zoredache> Yeah, right
[08:34] <Sysi> is that you want the miniman panel loaded or you don't want the other loaded?
[08:34] <zoredache> I just want the minimal panel loaded and not all the others
[08:34] <zoredache> and I don't mind if it shows up on my desktop
[08:35] <Sysi> another bad workaround with hiding panels
[08:36] <Sysi> but setting that on and off would be irritating though
[08:38] <Sysi> http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-panel#panel-advanced
[08:38] <Sysi> i wonder if that could somehow be used
[08:39] <zoredache> That may be exactly what I need.  if xfce4-panel respects me setting the 'XDG_CONFIG_HOME' variable then Everything is great
[08:50] <zoredache> Well it didn't work in my remote test.  I am going to have to play more with those variables when I am at the console...  Thanks for the help
[09:07] <nikolam> seems like a lot of apps went broken into 10.04 release actually. I now witness not only mousepad not willing to close for a half a minute, and pcmanfm broken and stopping opening folders, to amarok, using 100% cpu on every other starting, etc etc
[09:08] <nikolam> Seems I will take 10.10 testing more seriously but its also a shame if people need to live few years on Lts with some of such packages
[09:22] <Sysi> nikolam: it's shame some people have peroblems (and others don't)
[13:14] <Xbert> TheSheep, thanks for your help with my bluetooth issues yesterday everything you said helped, the issues was with my device firmware, updated and it works fine
[13:15] <TheSheep> Xbert: that's great
[14:55] <knome> hey, how do i install a network printer in xubuntu?
[14:56] <Sysi> have you seen printer instructions?
[14:56] <knome> no, i am asking without googling:P
[14:56] <Sysi> i ment the paper one
[14:56] <knome> right
[14:56] <knome> i have.
[14:56] <knome> well
[14:57] <knome> not in paper
[14:57] <knome> but in pdf
[14:57] <knome> hmm
[14:57] <knome> seems to work ootb:P
[14:57] <knome> at least xubuntu found the printer immediately
[14:57] <Sysi> :D
[14:57] <Sysi> too easy
[14:58] <knome> yep.
[14:59] <Sysi> cups ♥
[14:59] <knome> yeah
[15:00] <knome> the big, clumsy cups
[15:00] <knome> anyway bbl
[15:03]  * likemindead is downloading Xubuntu 10.10 Beta. :D
[15:48] <emvee> got the beta maverick ... sound worked fine until i shut down. the shutdown process seemed to mute the sound and the next login i unmuted it but it still isn't working?
[15:48] <Sysi> !10.10
[15:49] <emvee> ah ok thanks. anyone here knows msg me (it might be to do with using padsp to run .ogg files?)
[15:56] <charlie-tca> emvee: bug 613054
[15:57] <charlie-tca> includes a workaround
[16:06] <knome> hey charlie-tca, you there?
[16:06] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:06] <charlie-tca> Hello, knome
[16:07] <knome> charlie-tca, will lucid work with 512 ram well?
[16:07] <knome> any notable difference to 8.04 ?
[16:07] <charlie-tca> I think lucid might be a little bit faster than 8.04
[16:08] <knome> oh!
[16:08] <knome> then i'll upgrade
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Not a big difference, though
[16:08] <knome> okay
[16:08] <knome> as long as it's not notably slower...
[16:08] <charlie-tca> 9.10 was slower
[16:08] <knome> okay
[16:08] <knome> i'll boot now
[16:08] <knome> then upgrade
[16:08] <knome> brb
[16:13] <knome> okay, i'm back and upgrading
[16:16] <knome> charlie-tca, anything i should know?
[16:21] <charlie-tca> the mixer in lucid does not mute every restart. but it might disappear during the upgrade and you have to add it back after the second or third restart
[16:21] <charlie-tca> network manager applet goes away too, I think
[16:22] <charlie-tca> and, the mixer will mute again in maverick at every startup
[16:23] <charlie-tca> those are the only ones I can think of now
[16:24] <Sysi> it has never muted for me
[16:25] <charlie-tca> oh, one more. In 8.04, you had to tell it to upgrade things. You still have to in lucid, but the update manager will run automatically within a minute or two of login only
[16:25] <charlie-tca> If you suspend, I don't think it runs again. You have to do it manually
[16:27] <charlie-tca> I might be wrong about update-manager running again, but it is definitely a big change from 8.04
[16:28] <charlie-tca> Sysi: that's cheating then
[16:28] <charlie-tca> what are you doing different?
[16:29] <Sysi> could be removing pulseaudio
[16:29] <Sysi> but it worked with that too..
[16:30] <charlie-tca> heh
[16:30] <charlie-tca> so back to the question? What are you doing different then? ;-)
[16:31] <charlie-tca> Lucid is the only release I did not have to keep unmuting my mixer
[16:32] <Sysi> karmic was only one doing it
[16:32] <Sysi> adding it being slow, i did not like karmic
[16:32] <charlie-tca> Oh, that explains it. You are using lucid
[16:33] <Sysi> maverick on netbook
[16:33] <charlie-tca> jaunty did it, intrepid did it, maverick does it
[16:33] <charlie-tca> and maverick doesn't mute for you?
[16:33] <Sysi> it does not
[16:34] <charlie-tca> Got to be the pulse audio removed thing, then. It didn't do it at first, but one of the changes caused it to start happening again
[16:35] <Sysi> i'm thinking removing it from this desktop too, i think pulse is resetting alsamixer settings
[16:36] <charlie-tca> I don't know enough about audio to say, so I just put up with it and report it as a bug
[20:37] <mistt> bonsoir
[20:37] <mistt> un francais ici
[20:39] <charlie-tca> !fr
[20:40] <mistt> ty charlie-tca
[20:40] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:30] <Mano_Chao> salve galera!
[22:30] <xGrind> Man; salve \o
[22:30] <xGrind> Man: salve \o
[22:30] <Mano_Chao> (:
[22:30] <xGrind> kk
[22:31] <xGrind> Mano_Chao; salve \o
[22:31] <xGrind> agora sim \o/
[22:31] <Mano_Chao> agora sim
[22:31] <xGrind> Mano_Chao; é de onde parcero?
[22:31] <Mano_Chao> parana
[22:31] <Mano_Chao> br
[22:31] <Mano_Chao> e vc
[22:31] <xGrind> aparecida sp
[22:31] <Mano_Chao> mas esse canal aqui eh gringo neh
[22:31] <Mano_Chao> o xunbuntu-br nem existe
[22:32] <xGrind> vamo criar? :D
[22:32] <Mano_Chao> demoro!
[22:32] <knome> Mano_Chao, xGrind: please, this is english only channel.
[22:32] <Mano_Chao> tah veno... kkkk
[22:32] <xGrind> ok man
[22:33] <knome> you can use #ubuntu-br, they'll give support for xubuntu as well as much as they can