[00:00] crimsun_: it doesn't cut power to the entire card itself, just the antenna? Anyhow, any ideas? [00:00] crimsun_: is backports-modules-alsa in 10.04 a 1.0.23 or have you made a snapshot even later? diff says that the version from backports has quite a few more files [00:01] if anyone has issues with slow scrolling and nvidia, see bug #629910 [00:01] Launchpad bug 629910 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia 256.53 xorg-server 1.9.0 performance regression with antialiased text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629910 [00:02] crimsun_: you are backporting maverick kernel to lucid? it's some new policy? does it go to -backports or through -updates, but with a different name and not as an update? [00:02] sidnei: even slower than now? seriously? :/ [00:02] brb [00:03] if now == lucid, then yes. it was pretty ok on lucid for me. [00:03] crimsun_: this is ath9k [00:03] now == maverick with the previous nvidia driver :) [00:03] I've got an AR9285 [00:04] kklimonda: the kernel team lead (tim g) backports them. They go into the kernel ppa. [00:04] kklimonda: the ubuntu-audio-dev ppa has the daily builds. [00:05] further info: no mac filtering on router. If I allow NM to revert to my actual mac, it works fine. this is without the on/off card toggle. [00:07] seems like it's not related to nvidia actually, but not quite sure. [00:07] the same driver on xorg 1.8 works fine, according to some reports [00:11] i can use command make [00:11] i can't use make command [00:15] I miss the ability to scroll wheel over the volume icon to adjust [00:16] i am trying to run pcsxr and i am getting libglade2 not install but it is [00:16] Some_Person: well, you can click the indicator-sound applet and scroll wheel over the horizontal slider [00:16] actually it says libglade2 not found [00:17] help me [00:19] has anyone had all sound stop for no apparent reason and not come back in maverick? [00:20] it worked at first but it appears the shut down process did something to the sound (when i shut down it will show the volume box being muted) and when i log back in i can unmute it but there is no longer any sound [00:21] emvee: make sure your volume sliders aren't set to zero ;) [00:21] yes i done that! ;) [00:21] emvee: please run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, then [00:21] what is that? [00:24] ah nm ok [00:25] how do i find xtest headers [00:27] My 10.10 doesn't connect to the internet. Is this a known bug? [00:28] I am just bringing it up on a laptop live boot, and neither the live boot, nor the install step gives me an internet connection. [00:29] how do i find xtest headers [00:31] emvee: what's the url? [00:31] ok [00:32] i chose the option to upload it to the site and it said the information is at: (nothing was given) [00:32] so i did it without uploading it to a site and i now have the information in a file on my computer [00:32] but i dunno why it wouldn't have uploaded.. :P [00:33] i'll try it again actually and then if it doesn't? [00:33] brb [00:33] emvee: if it doesn't, pastebin /tmp/alsa-info.txt [00:35] I'm beening told by and user that update-manager -d from 10.04.1 is failing [00:35] pastebin is no command [00:35] please advice [00:36] emvee: pastebinit [00:36] tnks [00:36] emvee: see paste.ubuntu.com, or install the package that BUGabundo refers to [00:40] http://pastebin.com/jzjrqgwW [00:40] I am very impressed at compiz's performance in maverick [00:41] thanks [00:44] Normally, I keep compiz disabled because it reduces performance, but now I've gone crazy with the eyecandy and things are actually running smoothly [00:44] emvee: sec [00:44] np [00:45] emvee: lines 314-315 of your paste ;) [00:47] lol but.. [00:47] how do i up it then? the master control says it's up [00:47] and i never turned it down [00:47] emvee: use alsamixer [00:49] and what do i change? master says it's up to 75 [00:51] but if i shutdown the computer as i said i see it being muted, which is weird isnt it [00:51] how do i find xtest headers [00:51] but will any of the controls in alsamixer fix it? [00:55] crimsun_ ? [00:55] emvee: see the 'PCM' element. Unmute it, and raise it. [00:58] done still no sound [00:58] :( [01:01] BUGabundo, how's the btrfs drive working out? [01:02] bjsnider: nothing to report [01:02] its totally transperent to me [01:02] i think the question is... what is it that mutes the sound to begin and what THEn automatically mutes and turns down the volume of both master and pcm? [01:03] the pcm and master and the information you read seem to be a reaction to the actual problem [01:03] when i shut down the pcm and master i am sure will automatically revert to zero and mute because of...something [01:04] crimsun_ ... anyone? [01:12] emvee: some application is doing that; you can use a verbose pulse log to check [01:12] emvee: pastebin your `amixer' output [01:13] could it be padsp? [01:14] that's the only sound command i used before, to play .ogg files through a program that normally uses /dev/dsp [01:15] as for the verbose pulse log how do i do that, and where is the amixer output? [01:21] emvee: amixer is a command. Type it. :) [01:22] hey anyone i got maverick and my volume controller disapeared [01:22] emvee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log [01:22] anyone know how i can get that back [01:22] the little applet for the gnome-panel [01:23] dubbydubby: does speaker-test -c2 -l1 -Dplug:front work? [01:23] emvee: which program are you using that uses the legacy oss api? [01:23] yes speaker test works [01:23] i get the noisy nois [01:24] i can still listen to rhythmbox [01:24] dubbydubby: does `pulseaudio -k' return the indicator-sound applet? [01:24] dubbydubby: make sure you close rhythmbox first [01:25] darn i was hoping dubby was in my boat ;) ok brb [01:25] pulseaudo -k produces nothing [01:25] pulseaudo deamon is running [01:26] dubbydubby: and the indicator-sound applet? [01:26] no where to be seen [01:26] ok how do i get the amixer output to a file, i forget lol [01:26] dubbydubby: reproducible with a new user? [01:26] emvee: amixer > /tmp/foo.txt [01:26] lol [01:27] ok [01:27] i knew it had an arrow inzit [01:27] hey crimsun [01:28] dubbydubby: yes? [01:28] works [01:28] lol [01:28] dubbydubby: so something in your gconf/gnome profile is corrupted [01:28] indicator applet re-instal [01:28] yeah must have been [01:28] crimsun_ http://pastebin.com/gNXSv3Bv [01:28] first thing i had to do when installing maverik is also reinstall gnome-panel [01:29] emvee: and sound is still inaudible? [01:30] emvee: if so, can you try: speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav -Dplug:front [01:31] still no sound, ok will do [01:32] Does the mini.iso update with each update like alpha 3 to beta etc...? Or does it pull a package list during install? [01:32] ok [01:33] i checked the sound before by playing a youtube video lol, and i did the test after that didn't work and it said the sound device or resource is busy, so i closed youtube and now i can hear sound [01:33] from the test [01:34] is weird didn't work in youtube tho. also, i wasn't on a video when i closed it i was only on the main youtube site, as if that was using it? weird [01:34] nvm found my answer mini.iso was released on 08-26 and hasn't updated [01:34] emvee: ok, so you're experiencing the well-known "Flash grabs the sound device" bug [01:36] but also weird is that before, when i checked it i was checking it by running padsp and a program called sbagen (brainwave binaural audio beats) and that didn't work [01:36] and there was no youtube site open [01:36] anyway testing that now [01:37] ok still no sound [01:37] has anyone here installed 10.10 via usb on a netbook? [01:37] hmm, has the default wallpaper been tweaked recently? Or has it just grown on me? [01:38] so it seems the flash may have grabbed it then, but it's not the problem [01:38] and even tho the sound test works, sound doesn't work anywhere else [01:38] ? [01:39] so now i got two bugs? the flash bug and the unknown bug ;) [01:40] when booting using 10.10 netbook edition on usb drive, it just sits at: SYSLINUX 3.86 2010-04-01 EBIOS.. etc === jjcm_ is now known as jjcm [01:42] emvee: which test works? [01:42] speaker-test [01:43] it only didn't when it appears the flash was hogging it [01:43] but sound still doesn't come from anything but that [01:45] hrm, the web is providing no real info on my problem [01:45] maybe it's the less famous speaker-test grabs the sound device bug lol, not [01:46] hi to all, i am having problems with acpi module, my desktop are crashing(stopping) every time [01:47] i use ubuntu 10.04 64bits and get this warn: 'ACPI Warning: Incorrect checksum in table [OEMB]' [01:47] have solution to this? [01:47] emvee: try `pulseaudio -k' [01:47] emvee: if you have a verbose log handy, I'd appreciate that pastebinned [01:48] I have found info on my problem but it tells me to create a usb stick without persistance enabled, anyone know what that means? [01:48] going to try to install the netbook edition again. Hopefully the lockup issue will be fixed I was experiencing. [01:48] um [01:48] psion: it means you shouldn't allocate space to store files on the usb stick [01:48] psion: with out the casper system so you can't save your settings [01:49] i just did the pulseaudio -k and now padsp command doesn't even appear to run sbagen and its audio files, it gives me the same old error of can't open /dev/dsp, errno 2 [01:49] crimsun_: I used their universal usb creator, what else could I use to accomplish it? [01:49] emvee: you need to restart pulseaudio if you followed the verbose log steps [01:50] emvee: alternately, mv ~/.pulse/client.conf ~/.pulse/client.conf.bak [01:50] psion: just select eh discarded on shutdown option then [01:50] psion: that would disable persistance [01:51] that isn't an option with this program [01:51] psion: I thought you were using the startup disk creator? [01:52] "Universal USB Installer" or w/e, it was linked to on the install info on the website [01:52] emvee: also, note that oss support has been removed from maverick's kernel, so you won't have a /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, /dev/audio, etc. [01:52] trying the one on the the drive now [01:53] psion: thats the only one i've used and have had success with it. [01:53] ok, thanks [01:53] psion: the one built in to ubuntu [01:53] yeah i know, that's why i had to use padsp and now that isn't working :( (not that sound works at all anymore) [01:54] ok trying the alternative ;) says no /.pulse directory [01:54] emvee: not /.pulse [01:54] emvee: ~/.pulse [01:54] emvee: that leading tilde is vital [01:54] yeah no ~/.pulse [01:55] no /home/mv/.pulse/ [01:55] or do i sudo it? [01:55] don't sudo [01:55] k [01:55] histo: I'm using the one you mentioned now, but oddly enough when selecting the iso, it doesn't show up [01:55] do you have pulseaudio installed at all? [01:56] psion: what doesn't show up? [01:56] emvee: what's the output from `sudo fuser /dev/snd/*'? [01:56] the image should show up in the top part after you select it and open it, so that you can select it and the removable disk to use [01:56] psion: you click other up top and then select the iso. [01:56] I think I figured out a work around though, I mounted the image as a drive and that shows up [01:57] psion: then in the bottom area you select the thumb drive [01:57] histo: yeah, I clicked other and browsed to it [01:57] psion: it should populate the top window then... Make sure your iso is good. I would check the hash [01:57] histo: yeah I'll do that, it doesn't populate [01:58] but when I mounted the iso as a drive, it did appear [01:58] After installing maverick and rebooting my GDM doesn't start, looking in syslog I have "plymouth-stop pre-start process (1818) terminated with status 1". Is this a known issue? [01:58] ... /dev/snd/controlC0: 1270 1342 [01:58] and /dev/snd/controlC1: 1270 1342 [01:58] jan i don't know [01:58] i ran it and got nothing, no error tho [02:00] emvee: and from `ps 1270 1342' ? [02:00] histo: just checked it and it's a good file, I'll just try creating the usb drive using the mounted image [02:00] oh and after i ran it i tried to use padsp on the sbagen program to run its sounds and now that gives me an error so it definitely.... did something [02:01] quidnunc: this message is most likely not related to your problem. can you start gdm manually by doing sudo start gdm? [02:01] 1270 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/bin/xfce4-volumed [02:02] kklimonda: It says gdm is already started but I have no X session visible. [02:02] 1342 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/lib/xfce4-mixer/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-mixer- [02:02] that's it [02:03] quidnunc: does ps aux |grep gdm shows it working? if so, can you use alt+f7 or alt+f8 to get to it then? [02:03] kklimonda: gdm-binary is there. [02:06] emvee: ah! That's the crazy "Xfce's mixer does wonky things on session login" bug [02:07] emvee: historically it, like KDE's mixer, sets the volume/mute, which makes for hilarity. [02:07] okay.... glad you understand lol [02:07] :) [02:07] it has a patch? [02:08] kklimonda: alt-f8 is blank (except cursor in top-left). alt-f7 is just some the startup console output (entries like "* blah started") [02:08] I'm not sure there is a fix at all; many people don't use pulse at all and thus expect that behavior. [02:09] ? [02:09] i haven't used the pulseaudio command before today tho [02:09] sorry what do you mean [02:09] quidnunc: can you start X yourself? by doing startx for example [02:10] quidnunc: and can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log? [02:10] emvee: I'm saying that the "muted on session login" behavior is probably caused by Xfce's mixer [02:10] kklimonda: Is there a specific terminal I need to do that in? [02:10] ok [02:10] emvee: it's not necessarily related to pulse; it can just cause very poor interactions if you /do/ use pulse [02:10] quidnunc: no [02:10] but even when unmute it, etc, still no sound [02:11] emvee: sounds like applications doing weird things, then; your sound appears to work just fine [02:11] kklimonda: Yeah that produces some helpful debug messages. Just a sec I will paste it. [02:12] emvee: try something like `ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg' [02:12] the soundtest worked yeah, that's weird, but padsp used to work (and youtube etc) until this mute thing started [02:12] / [02:12] and now padsp isn't doing what it used to do but only because of the pulseaudio -k command, do you know what happened there? [02:13] (though it had no sound before it still APpeared to be running properly) [02:13] ok will try [02:14] kklimonda: http://paste.ubuntu.com/488070/ [02:15] It seems the binary nvidia driver is not compatible with current kernel? [02:15] quidnunc: right, for nvidia-current the update has been uploaded today, I'm not sure about earlier versions [02:16] I'm surprised that you don't get a failsafe X though.. [02:16] quidnunc, update nvidia-current to 256.53 [02:16] there is no /ubuntu directory there [02:18] bjsnider: Where do I obtain that version number? [02:18] it should be built and published by now, just do your regular updates [02:18] bjsnider: okay, thanks [02:19] emvee: you can try playing any other ogg vorbis file [02:19] (out for a bit) [02:20] ok i did it and the sound bar came up and muted itself again, and unmuting it still no sound [02:20] though the track appears to be playing [02:21] that's odd [02:21] ok crimsun, thanks anyways [02:21] yeah [02:22] what stereo port are you using to test the sound? [02:22] i don't know lol [02:22] command? [02:23] :) [02:23] i'm talking about the physical port you have your speakers or phones plugged into [02:23] This is inetresting failing at select and install softwware on the mini.iso [02:23] it is a laptop just two left/right front speakers [02:24] Hrm... unambe to select ubuntu netbook from the mini.iso [02:24] ok, can you try the phone plug instead? [02:24] ok [02:25] no sound [02:26] what porgram are you using to play the file? [02:27] just then the ogg123 command [02:28] have also used padsp, and have used youtube and nothing, but the sound test works [02:28] works meaning you can hear the test sound? [02:29] is there any reason using padsp might have started all the weirdness yesterday? [02:29] yeah [02:29] what test sound is this and how did you play it? [02:29] speaker-test -c2 -l1 -twav -Dplug:front [02:30] did you upgrade from a previous ubuntu or clean install maverick? [02:31] i clean installed it from the iso [02:31] i had 8.04 on a cd and installed that just to download the iso of maverick then i installed over the whole disk [02:32] you replaced everything or kept the home directory from hardy? [02:33] replaced everything [02:33] are you absolutely sure about that? [02:33] yeah... but why anyway? [02:33] i mean are you sure the maverick installer didn't just keep the old home directory [02:34] i chose the second option i can't remember what it said but it was a guided install over the entire disk [02:34] try creating a new user account. log out of the current one and into the new one [02:34] then try sound [02:34] oh no i definitely had to recreate the user [02:35] hmm [02:35] emvee, did you use the same name? [02:35] yah ............. [02:35] ythink [02:35] hmm [02:35] will try a new user [02:36] any xchat users in here? [02:36] for some reason the font looks really ugly when colored [02:36] like in the channel buttons [02:37] can the background of the sides be changed colour in xchat? [02:37] i tried xchat and wanted to change the colours but the sides being left looked ugly [02:38] Is there a way to reinstall a package using the highest currently available binary without manually specifying the version number? I have a later version of several packages from ppas and I want to automatically downgrade them to the versions in the fficial repos. [02:42] hmm, my cpu applet is showing dark text in ambience again, bug #532385 [02:42] Launchpad bug 532385 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "[ambiance] cpufreq applet has dark text on dark panel" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532385 [02:42] do i open a new bug or use the existing one? [02:50] bjsnider gonna log back in now in dummy account fyi [02:51] were you just saying i should test the sound again under new account right? [02:51] yes [02:52] ok bbiab [02:56] bjsnider .. nope :/ [02:57] well, then it's not a screwy userspace configuration setting [02:57] common in 8.04? :) [02:58] or just incompatible [02:59] oh well [03:00] i decided to download the unstable version because i wanted to learn linux and thought i'm going to stuff it all up anyway so i may aswell stuff it up on the cutting edge [03:00] quidnunc, look for ppa-purge [03:01] emvee, not sure i understand the logic of that [03:01] sidnei: Thanks [03:02] i did but now i need a second [03:02] lol [03:03] you don't know linux so you decided to make it doubly hard on yourself by using unstable versions in development [03:03] something about being a crash test dummy [03:03] low end job but hey [03:03] hehe [03:04] it's actually a fast way to learn [03:05] fast way to frustrate yourself for no reason [03:05] i'm not frustrated really [03:05] that's the other thing [03:05] i was getting frustrated when i was in versions that were meant to be stable [03:06] ugh, there's one bug in wine about how wow crashes on login in maverick [03:06] i'm having the same bug [03:06] but they closed it invalid [03:08] i had linux over 10 years ago because i was doing an internet/networking course and i did well but it's been a long time since over 10 years ago, more than 10 years in fact [03:08] fun fact: it's caused by the ptrace protection in maverick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#PTRACE%20Protection [03:09] hello everyone [03:10] i just install the latest upgrades on maverick and gnome won't start. anyone else having the same problem ? [03:11] anyone around? [03:11] thanks for warning tho [03:11] heh [03:11] i was about to install [03:12] vil vait for answerz [03:13] well i hadn't installed the updates for some time [03:13] for still, i can't open any session [03:13] ah. what gui are u in now? [03:14] I'm using tty with iirc [03:14] oh k [03:15] I hope someone knows a fix :) [03:15] i vill be silent (or repeat the question:) [03:16] crimsun was pretty helpful but he just left [03:16] bbl tho [03:16] ok thanks [03:16] yeah crimsun is usually very helpful :) [03:17] i think he's a bug fetishist [03:17] lol [03:17] makes sense [03:17] :) [03:18] wait, i acutally have debian installed on this machine [03:18] i'll reboot brb :) [03:18] the only other clue i have about why ptrace is failing in wine [03:18] [ 1994.869982] ptrace of non-child pid 8718 was attempted by: wineserver (pid 8543) [03:19] voidmage: maybe it's just debugger connecting to wine process? [03:20] i can fix it by disabling /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope [03:20] when it's enabled, that message gets spit to dmesg and wow crashes [03:20] so do it and it will work [03:21] we can't fix wow to not do it and this restriction is there for a reason [03:23] silly question? how can i get thunderbird as an icon in the top panel from xubuntu maverick [03:23] the add applications doesn't have it as one [03:23] drag dropping doesn't work either [03:33] Hi, I have some sound problems so I thought to install the latest alsa before reporting any thing, I did git clone git://git.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver.git alsa-driver, but there is no ./configure script, what am I missing? [03:33] Everytime I login my wireless isn't enable by defualt and is greyed out the ability to enable it, I have to go into "Edit Connections" and edit one of the wirelesss networks and authenticate for more priviliges and then it works, any ideas? [03:34] edgy: you don't want to do that.. [03:35] kklimonda: then what can I do, please? [03:35] edgy: if you think that daily build of alsa may fix your problem use https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa [03:40] kklimonda: marvellous, let me try it and report back [03:45] kklimonda: it seems I did something nasty let me explain. the sound didn't work. I downloaded alsa-driver snapshot and ./configure; make; sudo make install and then I have no sound devices at all, then tried git and couldn't find the ./configure script, then I came here and you pointed to ppa and did install it but now still [03:45] alsamixer [03:45] cannot open mixer: No such file or directory [03:46] edgy: reboot your system first [03:46] kklimonda: ok let me reboot ... [03:50] kklimonda: rebooted and still same problem [03:53] the colors on the font in xchat look kind of ugly on the buttons, is this the same for anyone else? http://imgur.com/8WsfF.png [03:54] edgy: then you will have to wait for crimsun - he may know what have you overwritten by installing alsa from sources [03:55] kklimonda: I will wait for crimsun_ then, do you think he would show within minutes or days? ;) [03:55] or does anyone know where the font for the buttons is controlled? it's not in an obvious place to me [03:57] edgy: he went out "for a bit" an hour ago or so [03:58] kklimonda: thanks a lot [04:07] another issue: when I visit a web page or do something that needs a codec not installed kde gives me an icon indicating what needs to be installed like k3b codec, mpeg but when I click on it I get this message [04:07] This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided [04:20] What's the sudo apt get package for the nvidia drivers? [04:20] I upgraded to 10.10 and I can't get into x [04:20] I tried nvidia-xconfig or whatever [04:23] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so [04:23] ugh [04:27] what's with totem resizing to double on widescreen videos? [04:27] i take that back it's resizing to double on everything [04:27] oh, bug #618836 [04:27] Launchpad bug 618836 in totem (Ubuntu) "if resize option is set videos are opened at 2:1 not 1:1" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618836 [04:40] hiya [04:45] hi again [04:46] so, has anyone been experiencing problems with starting a gnome session since the latest updates ? [04:47] heh [04:47] Yup [04:47] Can't get into x at all [04:47] But I have a driver issue [04:47] I don't want to boot to the livecd to fix it [04:47] there has to be another way [04:51] crimsun_: can you please show up? [04:53] edgy: hi [04:54] uuuh the connection keeps dropping [04:54] has anyone been experiencing problems with starting a gnome session since the latest updates ? [04:54] so, has anyone been experiencing problems with starting a gnome [04:54] session since the latest updates ? [04:54] heh [04:54] Yup [04:54]