[02:12] <n8ofsp8ds> hey guys i need your help with hdmin for ubuntu
[02:12] <n8ofsp8ds> the resolution wont adjust right
[02:13] <n8ofsp8ds> and no sound
[02:15] <n8ofsp8ds> anybody
[02:31] <pseudosmart> does anyone know how to install a patch in 10.04? I keep getting hunks failed?
[02:32] <aveilleux> pseudosmart: Can you give some context?
[02:32] <pseudosmart> I'm trying to install a patch to make my internal microphone work. But I keep getting 44 of 44 hunks failes
[02:32] <pseudosmart> failed
[02:33] <aveilleux> pseudosmart: By "context" I meant what program is returning that error
[02:34] <pseudosmart> the terminal. Is that what you mean?
[02:34] <aveilleux> pseudosmart: No. What program are you running to initiate the patch that returns the "hunks failed" error
[03:42] <small> hello
[03:42] <small> i need some help on networking a shared file
[03:43] <stlsaint> small: i can try and help
[03:44] <stlsaint> you running samba?
[03:44] <small> i have ashared file and the program i am using needs the path to the shared file
[03:44] <small> i think so when i shared the file it says the shared file is smb:\ubuntulinux
[03:45] <small> ubuntulinux is the name of my computer
[03:46] <small> the name of the shared file is pos2 and is located on the ubuntu desktop
[03:47] <small> this program needs the path to the shared file
[03:49] <head_victim> small: should be //ip.address.of.host/sharename
[03:49] <stlsaint> small: what is the user name of the desktop where the file is
[03:49] <head_victim> Off the top of my head. If you have the dns set up right you could just use //hostname/sharename
[03:50] <small> the file is at /home/bradley/Desktop/pos2
[03:52] <small> when i go to network is says smb://ubuntulinux
[03:52] <stlsaint> small: well that is the entire path that you want to tell that program
[03:52] <small> when i put that path in it says path does not exist
[03:52] <stlsaint> append on the rest of that path to smb://ubuntulinux
[03:57] <small> maybe not work like that this is dos software running on dosemu
[03:58] <small> would it have to be networked through dosemu
[04:00] <Caelte> when I double click on a script it opens edit instead off giving me the option to run as a script. can anyone help me get that back?
[04:01] <Caelte> that should be opens gedit
[04:02] <head_victim> Caelte: a single script or all scripts?
[04:03] <Caelte> everything goes to gedit
[04:08] <head_victim> Caelte: ah odd, I was thinking you might have accidentally made one of them non executable which is what I've done in the past causing that exact symptom
[04:10] <Caelte> and how did you fix that?
[04:10] <head_victim> Right click the file, go to properties, then go to the permissions tab and tick the "allow executing file as a program"
[04:10] <stlsaint> Caelte: you need to chmod that file
[04:11] <head_victim> Or you can use cli to chmod it
[04:11] <stlsaint> Caelte: in terminal: sudo chmod u+x /name/of/file
[04:12] <Caelte> thank you - under properties it was not executable, now it is and now it runs
[04:17] <Caelte> thanks again guys, have a great night
[04:17] <stlsaint> l8er
[06:34] <Sqorck> Hello?
[06:36] <AndrewMC> Hello Sqorck
[06:36] <AndrewMC> !hi
[06:36] <ubot2> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-beginners! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[06:38] <Sqorck> I need some help, I just installed Ubuntu on a partition on my vista laptops HDD and for some reason grub wont boot in to windows vista
[06:39] <Sqorck> I think what happend in the install I set my windows partition to be the bootloader and now everytime I try to pick the vista option in grub it just restarts grub
[06:40] <Sqorck> here is the data from fdisk -l
[06:40] <Sqorck> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[06:40] <Sqorck> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[06:40] <Sqorck> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:40] <Sqorck> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[06:40] <Sqorck> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[06:40] <Sqorck> Disk identifier: 0x98b977c6
[06:41] <Sqorck> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[06:41] <Sqorck> /dev/sda1 * 1 16579 133169676 7 HPFS/NTFS
[06:41] <Sqorck> /dev/sda2 16579 19458 23119873 5 Extended
[06:41] <Sqorck> /dev/sda5 16579 17066 3905536 82 Linux swap / Solaris
[06:41] <Sqorck> /dev/sda6 17066 18889 14647296 83 Linux
[06:41] <Sqorck> /dev/sda7 18889 19458 4564992 83 Linux
[06:43] <Sqorck> Anyone know what I can do? AndrewMC?
[06:44] <AndrewMC> Sorry idk much about grub
[06:44] <AndrewMC> !grub
[06:44] <ubot2> grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.
[06:44] <gmail> hello
[06:44] <AndrewMC> Try that out
[06:44] <AndrewMC> !hi | gmail
[06:44] <ubot2> gmail: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-beginners! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[06:45] <gmail> can some help me, the flashplayer can't reads tips in youtube !!?
[06:45] <AndrewMC> Do the videos play
[06:45] <gmail> AndrewMC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPGWktguAtM
[06:46] <gmail> see the tips on video
[06:46] <gmail> I can't read it character
[06:46] <AndrewMC> Huh
[06:47] <gmail> also, wait any video fisinh and got the list of videos also I can't read it :/
[06:47] <gmail> just english I can , other english can't
[06:47] <AndrewMC> Is your zoom messed up
[06:49] <AndrewMC> !grub2 | Sqorck
[06:49] <ubot2> Sqorck: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[06:51] <hobgoblin> morning
[06:52] <AndrewMC> !hi | hobgoblin
[06:52] <ubot2> hobgoblin: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-beginners! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[06:52] <[sleepy]> its 10:52 here wtf
[06:52] <[sleepy]> lol
[06:52] <hobgoblin> AndrewMC: up till a few months ago I was voiced in here and a member of BT - I know the drill :)
[06:53] <AndrewMC> Oh sorry
[06:53] <[sleepy]> lol
[06:53] <hobgoblin> and it's probably best not to just whack a factoid at people ;)
[06:54] <gmail> AndrewMC: what's the meaning for massedup ?
[06:54] <AndrewMC> I know but iPhone you know much easier to go !hi then to type it all out
[06:54] <hobgoblin> pfft - phones are for talking on - and now I've given away my age :D
[06:54] <AndrewMC> gmail: Meant messed up sorry
[06:54] <AndrewMC> hobgoblin: Lol
[06:55] <hobgoblin> is there someone here with grub issues?
[06:55] <AndrewMC> hobgoblin: Yes
[06:55] <hobgoblin> did they get sorted?
[06:56] <AndrewMC> Sqorck is have issues and it's not my area of expertise so I hoped the factoid could help him but he is still here
[06:56] <gmail> AndrewMC: no
[06:56] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: ping
[06:56] <gmail> zoom default
[06:56] <Sqorck> umm
[06:57] <Sqorck> yeah I still need some help
[06:57] <hobgoblin> hi Sqorck - what's your problem then?
[06:57] <Sqorck> I have vista installed on my laptops HDD and I freed up some space to add Ubuntus partitions. I went through the install and at the last part where you set the bootloader to a partition it got set to my vista partition, so it put grub on my vista partition and now when I boot grub comes up and I can boot in to Ubuntu but when I try to boot in to windows it just restarts grub.
[06:58] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: ok - you know how to use paste.ubuntu.com?
[06:58] <Sqorck> no, im really new to linux and all this
[06:58] <hobgoblin> !paste | Sqorck
[06:58] <ubot2> Sqorck: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[06:59] <Sqorck> Ah ok
[06:59] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: I'm going to give you a command to run in the terminal - that is in apps - accessories, run that and then paste ALL of it to paste.ubuntu.com - put a name in the name box - hit paste and give us the new url
[07:00] <gmail> can I change the character for flashplayer !?!
[07:00] <Sqorck> ok
[07:01] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: sudo fdisk -l && cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:02] <Sqorck> Yeah I already have that in a text file hold on..
[07:02] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: then I want you to do this - sudo update-grub && cat /boot/grub/grub.dfg
[07:03] <Sqorck> Ok here is the first http://paste.ubuntu.com/488159/
[07:05] <Sqorck> here is what I got from putting in the other line http://paste.ubuntu.com/488161/
[07:06] <hobgoblin> typo on my part there - it is early ... should be grub.cfg
[07:07] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: but don't worry for the moment - run this one and it's only one line returns so just paste the result here please
[07:08] <hobgoblin> sudo blkid |grep /dev/sda1
[07:08] <Sqorck>  /dev/sda1: UUID="78BE6059BE601244" TYPE="ntfs"
[07:09] <hobgoblin> k - thanks Sqorck - give me a little while to look
[07:09] <Sqorck> okay
[07:14] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: ok - want to add a custom entry to try that - so open the file for editing gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[07:14] <Sqorck> alright open.
[07:15] <hobgoblin> http://ubft.pastebin.com/NnS9EFdn
[07:16] <hobgoblin> paste that in to the file - I assume it is empty at the moment
[07:16] <Sqorck> yeah, it has instructions but thats it
[07:16] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: then save and close and run sudo update-grub
[07:17] <Sqorck> Okay saved it
[07:18] <Sqorck> ok its "done"
[07:18] <hobgoblin> whne you run update-grub it will not look any different as the custom entries don't echo afaik - do the cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg again - look right at the bottom and makes sure it is there
[07:18] <hobgoblin> when you've checked - reboot and see if it works
[07:18] <hobgoblin> I'll be about - ping me - though I might be making tea :)
[07:19] <Sqorck> hold on
[07:19] <Sqorck> that last part though me for a loop
[07:19] <Sqorck> I have no clue what echo afaik is
[07:21] <hobgoblin> :) afaik - as far as I know and by echo I mean that though update-grub will see it. it will not show on the screen
[07:21] <hobgoblin> and what do you mean by loop - you rebooted and it didn't work?
[07:22] <Sqorck> like when I picked the vista option it would just go black for a sec then load grub up again
[07:24] <Sqorck> ok now it looks like the windows vista (loader) (on /dev/sda1) is there
[07:24] <hobgoblin> the new option does the same as the old one?
[07:24] <Sqorck> im going to reboot
[07:24] <hobgoblin> ok
[07:24] <hobgoblin> the last option will be at the bottom
[07:29] <Sqorck> Okay yeah they both do the same
[07:30] <Sqorck> | hobgoblin
[07:31] <hobgoblin> mmm
[07:33] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: when you installed did you resize the vista partition with the vista disk manager or in the ubuntu livecd?
[07:34] <Sqorck> vista disk manager then set up all the ubuntu partitions manually.
[07:35] <hobgoblin> k
[07:37] <Sqorck> I was trying to do my best not to mess up anything on the vista side of things.
[07:37] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: can you go here and download the file - http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[07:37] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: yea - I understand that :)
[07:37] <Sqorck> Done
[07:38] <hobgoblin> assuming that the file downloads to the desktop, in a terminal chmod +x boot<tab>
[07:38] <hobgoblin> using the tab key willautocomplete the name
[07:38] <hobgoblin> then once that has done - sudo ./boot<tab>
[07:39] <hobgoblin> there will be a text doc on the desktop - copy all of that to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <Sqorck> hmm tab didnt do anything
[07:41] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: where did the file download to?
[07:41] <hobgoblin> oh foo - my fault, if it is on the desktop then cd Desktop first
[07:41] <Sqorck> tmp but I save as it to the dt
[07:44] <Sqorck> http://paste.ubuntu.com/488170/
[07:51] <Sqorck> hobgoblin: so, I probably should have put your name in the post with the link huh. I'm not used to irc chats :-[
[07:52] <hobgoblin> sorry - I was reading it :) but it is best to put people's name
[07:52] <Sqorck> Oh
[07:53] <Sqorck> Yeah I'll try to remember that for all the important stuff.
[08:01] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: well I can't see anything in any of the files that should stop it working
[08:03] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: this could go round in circles - do you have the vista dvd?
[08:04] <Sqorck> no I never got one with my laptop
[08:04] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: ok - I am going to suggest that you reinstall the vista bootloader, check that vista works and then reinstall the ubuntu bootloader
[08:05] <hobgoblin> though it is feasible to add ubuntu to the vista bootloader I think
[08:05] <Sqorck> hobgoblin: how do I reinstall the vista bootloader?
[08:05] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/
[08:06] <Sqorck> hobgoblin:  oh boy I did all that, ended in aggravation.
[08:07] <hobgoblin> it's the only way I know of to reinstall the bootloader without the install disc
[08:07] <Sqorck> I couldnt get the image file to burn to a dvd so I used a cd and then I got nothing but errors trying to load it.
[08:09] <hobgoblin> oic - that sort of aggro - try with supergrub - http://www.supergrubdisk.org/2010/08/20/sg2d-downloads-20100820/
[08:09] <hobgoblin> did you try downloading the neosmart thing again?
[08:10] <Sqorck> 3 times
[08:10] <hobgoblin> lol
[08:10] <Sqorck> I have been trying to fix this for the past 2 days
[08:11] <hobgoblin> try supergrub - if that doesn't burn - then I would wonder at hardware issues - where are you burning the iso? in ubuntu
[08:12] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: did you post a thread on the forum at all?
[08:14] <Sqorck> No I have a hard time explaining stuff. over forums it just takes forever for me to get what I am trying to say across.
[08:15] <hobgoblin> might have been worth it - you'd have had answers by now - and the forum is new people friendly
[08:15] <hobgoblin> anyway - try supergrub
[08:15] <Sqorck> Yeah I am
[08:16] <Sqorck> Rage I guess Ubuntu just doesn't like my dvds.
[08:16] <Sqorck> trying cds
[08:16] <hobgoblin> brasero?
[08:16] <Sqorck> yeah
[08:17] <hobgoblin> I'll not say it works fine for me ...
[08:18] <Sqorck> Yeah but little things like that I can fix later, or find workrounds.
[08:18] <hobgoblin> :)
[08:19] <Sqorck> Alright time to see if this CD works brb
[08:24] <Sqorck> hobgoblin: well I picked detect any OS and it list ubuntu, ubuntu safemode, and vista. I picked vista and it loaded grub 2 with all the old options.
[08:24] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: I think there should be an option to resintall the vista bootloader
[08:25] <Sqorck> hobgoblin: with supper grub?
[08:25] <hobgoblin> yea
[08:25] <Sqorck> Ok ill look for it and anything else that could be useful
[08:26] <hobgoblin> hang on
[08:26] <Sqorck> ok
[08:28] <hobgoblin> in supergrub - look for a windows section - then look in there
[08:29] <Sqorck> okay, anything else?
[08:29] <hobgoblin> after you've done that you can either reinstall grub or add the neosmart boot thingy to add ubuntu to the vista boot menu
[08:30] <hobgoblin> at the moment let's just try and get vista booting again
[08:30] <Sqorck> ok so just add the neosmart bootloader
[08:31] <Sqorck> ?
[08:31] <hobgoblin> have a go now - if you have no irc client in vista - http://webchat.freenode.net/
[08:31] <Sqorck> I have one.
[08:31] <Sqorck> brb
[08:31] <hobgoblin> I think so - http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/EasyBCD+Documentation+Home
[08:33] <hobgoblin> I really hate grub2 when it goes wrong :(
[08:35] <seidos> i haven't really had grub2 go wrong, other stuff has, but not grub2
[08:42] <hobgoblin> seidos: me neither - bit others have and grub legacy was easier to work with :)  did you look at any of the pastes at all?
[08:42] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: well?
[08:43] <seidos> pastes?  no, i'm reading literature
[08:43] <hobgoblin> I wish I was :)
[08:43] <Sqorck> hobgoblin: well that was unproductive, I tried all the options there non did anything and didnt say anything about windows or neosmart
[08:43] <seidos> i'm just peaking in here from time to time, to see if there is anything i can do to help
[08:44] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: ok - well I have only 2 things left to try then I will have to give up
[08:44] <Sqorck> okay
[08:44] <hobgoblin> gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[08:44] <Sqorck> sry this is so problematic.
[08:45] <hobgoblin> find the line search --no-floppy --fs-uuid  and delete it - then save and run sudo update-grub again
[08:45] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: not your fault :)
[08:45] <hobgoblin> then try a reboot
[08:46] <Sqorck> the full line?
[08:46] <Sqorck> --set 78be6059be601244 is there too
[08:46] <hobgoblin> yep - whole line
[08:46] <Sqorck> ok
[08:47] <seidos> hobgoblin, should he make a backup of the file before making the change?
[08:47] <hobgoblin> seidos: it's the same as the -30 file with another line added
[08:47] <seidos> i should probably poke around in /etc/grub.d before opening my mouth
[08:48] <Sqorck> ok restarting
[08:48] <hobgoblin> seidos: and it's only the custom file anyway - and neither work lol
[08:48] <seidos> hobgoblin, i'm still used to menu.lst.  grub2 is yet another mystery to unravel
[08:49] <hobgoblin> yea - I loved grub - so easy to work with :)
[08:49] <hobgoblin> drs305 is on holiday - I'm sure he'd know what it is :D
[08:49] <seidos> maybe it's true what they say, the sequel is never as good as the original
[08:50] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha
[08:50] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: a no I assume
[08:50] <seidos> hmmm, looks like a bunch of bash in grub.d
[08:50] <Sqorck> :-(
[08:50] <hobgoblin> seidos: it is all like that :(
[08:52] <Sqorck> Is seidos trying to help or just laughing at how hard my computer fails?
[08:52] <seidos> Sqorck, i am trying to learn it, so that maybe i can help another person
[08:52] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: the only other thing I would suggest is booting the livecd and then reinstalling grub - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202  use method3
[08:52] <seidos> Sqorck, trust me, i am not laughing at computer problems.  i like when they work :)
[08:53] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: grub2 is fairly new and it is not as easy to work with as grub was :(
[08:53] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: I keep waiting to use one of the 'advanced features' in grub2 in order to feel better about justifying its increased complexity
[08:54] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: I have managed to get an iso on the menu and it boots - partedmagic - that was useful
[08:54] <hobgoblin> you can in fact add the buntu iso = boot's quicker than with a cd
[08:55] <duanedesign> huh
[08:55] <duanedesign> net
[08:55] <duanedesign> err, neat
[08:57] <Sqorck> Okay Im going to go try
[08:58] <hobgoblin> I am more or less positive that there is nothing wrong with the grub files
[08:59] <duanedesign> their is starting to be a few more resources out their, but drs305's guide on grub2 was a godsend for awhile
[09:03] <hobgoblin> yea - absolutely
[09:03] <seidos> maybe i should read it
[09:05] <hobgoblin> seidos: probably worth it :)
[09:05] <hobgoblin> I find in this channel that people turn off as soon as grub is mentioned :D
[09:05] <seidos> well, i don't know.  i spent quite a bit of time studying python, and today i had an idea for a very simple program, and i couldn't remember any syntax
[09:05] <seidos> so i'll probably read it and forget it
[09:05] <seidos> heh
[09:06] <hobgoblin> it's all voodoo to me anyway - all of it - and bash is something I do with a hammer
[09:06] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 i think this is the one that has been kept up with. Their is also one on wiki.ubuntu.com as well as the Forums
[09:07] <seidos> hobgoblin, yeah, no kidding.  a sledgehammer.
[09:07] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: lol
[09:07] <seidos> duanedesign, yeah, that's the one i found in the forums. thanks
[09:08] <seidos> huh, i have ver 1.97beta4 i guess i don't have grub 2 X_x
[09:08] <hobgoblin> could always get squork to revert to legacy- but I don't really think that will deal with the issue - just paper over the cracks
[09:09] <seidos> i scrolled up quite a bit, am i right that the problem is he can't boot into windows?
[09:09] <hobgoblin> seidos: yep - I think that grub2 will be beta for as long as grub was
[09:09] <hobgoblin> yep
[09:10] <seidos> hmmm, booting up windows from the cd should fix that.  but he has no cd, huh?
[09:10] <seidos> isn't the command fixmbr supposed to fix that?  that's what all the windows tests i've taken said.  heh
[09:10] <hobgoblin> indeed - and trying to burn the vista recovery disc was a problem it seems
[09:10] <hobgoblin> and supergrub didn't do the job either
[09:11] <seidos> i haven't heard of neosmart before
[09:11] <seidos> looks like they have a tool too
[09:11] <hobgoblin> I really have no idea why people do not burn the recovery disc when they first get it
[09:11] <seidos> they're cheap
[09:11] <hobgoblin> seidos: he tried that - that was the burn issue he had
[09:12] <seidos> for awhile i didn't have my own ubuntu live cd burned
[09:12] <seidos> i only had moon os
[09:12] <seidos> though, it was a learning experience trying to mess around with moon os and make it look like ubuntu
[09:12] <hobgoblin> seidos: I have so many iso's kicking about that it is ridiculous :)
[09:13] <seidos> hobgoblin, i need to get my usb flash drive back.  i'll just keep an iso of choice on there.  probably karmic.  i've had bad luck with lucid
[09:13] <seidos> maybe it's my karma :)
[09:13] <hobgoblin> heh
[09:13] <hobgoblin> I have lucid on 3 boxes here, not a problem with any of them
[09:13] <seidos> well this is a cool feature "boot livecd iso images directly from hard drive" X_x
[09:14] <seidos> any laptops?
[09:14] <hobgoblin> it works too
[09:14] <seidos> what brand?
[09:14] <hobgoblin> no - all desktop's
[09:14] <seidos> oh
[09:14] <hobgoblin> I make my own from stuff I get given or rescue - I am tight :)
[09:14] <seidos> the lucid live cd i burned wouldn't even boot
[09:15] <seidos> i am much thriftier now than i used to be.  i should still be using my old desktop, actually.  but, i don't know...maybe the choices i've made haven't been all bad
[09:26] <Sqorck> That was fun...
[09:27] <Sqorck> hobgoblin: So that was the last thing you knew to try?
[09:27] <hobgoblin> yep
[09:27] <hobgoblin> I guess you got nowhere then
[09:28] <Sqorck> Not really
[09:29] <hobgoblin> I'm not going to be anymore help here - I think you should try a forum post.
[09:30] <Sqorck> Is there anyway to fully uninstall grub from my windows partition?
[09:30] <Sqorck> other than the windows disk
[09:31] <hobgoblin> the neosmart recovery disc is the only other way I know of - I was sure that supergrub had the option, but obviously it doesn't any longer
[09:33] <Sqorck> I guess I'll try more stuff.
[09:33] <hobgoblin> when you tried the neosmart recovery disc and you got loads of text - what sort of thing was it saying?
[09:33] <Sqorck> it just gave me errors
[09:33] <hobgoblin> maybe boot with it if you have a camera, take a pic and post it
[09:34] <Sqorck> ok I'll try that
[09:34] <hobgoblin> very hard to diagnose an issue with something you;ve never seen with no concrete info :)
[09:34] <hobgoblin> I hate not helping :(
[09:40] <seidos> hobgoblin, i know the feeling, but i also hate not sleeping.  good luck in your efforts.
[09:40] <hobgoblin> good night seidos :)
[09:48] <Sqorck> hobgoblin see if you can see this http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs303.ash2/58335_423510543340_699513340_4994654_3017103_n.jpg
[09:48] <Sqorck> if not ill upload em some where else
[09:49] <hobgoblin> no - I can see that - so is that the neosmart vista recovery thing?
[09:49] <Sqorck> no this is grub ah' la super
[09:50] <Sqorck> but I do have images of the neodumb
[09:50] <hobgoblin> oh - why don't ou paste all the image links to a paste.ubuntu and I will have a look
[09:51] <Sqorck> there arnt too many
[09:51] <Sqorck> this is what I first get http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs412.snc4/47485_423516338340_699513340_4994821_3484689_n.jpg
[09:52] <hobgoblin> with the neosmart disc?
[09:52] <Sqorck> yes
[09:52] <Sqorck> then I hit enter and get this http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs311.ash2/59137_423516463340_699513340_4994822_1082024_n.jpg
[09:53] <hobgoblin> k - post stuff and I will look
[09:53] <Sqorck> if I hit enter after that it restarts
[09:54] <Sqorck> if I hit tab and enter it gives me an error, I'll post an image when it uploads
[09:56] <Sqorck> Oh never mind it just gives me the same error/puts me back to the start.
[09:56] <hobgoblin> ok - when you've done that I'd be interested to see what is going on with supergrub
[09:57] <hobgoblin> hi ikt
[09:58] <ikt> heya hobgoblin  :D
[09:58] <ikt> how are you?
[09:58] <hobgoblin> fed up with grub2 ;)
[09:59] <Sqorck> I would bet not happy with my pos pc
[09:59] <hobgoblin> other than that all is well
[09:59] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: ha ha ha
[10:02] <Sqorck> Would "Reverting to GRUB Legacy" do any good?
[10:02] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: do you have anymore supergrub images
[10:02] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: it might
[10:04] <Sqorck> No, anytime I selected anything it just brought me back the the supergrub menu or gave an error quick like or took me to grub 2
[10:04] <hobgoblin> fresh out of ideas then
[10:06] <hobgoblin> sorry Sqorck - but unless anyone else has any ideas I would suggest a post on the forum
[10:06] <Sqorck> ima' try reverting to grub legacy
[10:07] <hobgoblin> k
[10:14] <Sqorck> Man thats so strange
[10:16] <Sqorck> I start it up and grub 1 is there with one option "Vista" so I pick it and it loads grub 2 up... I just deleted grub 2.
[10:59] <hobgoblin> Sqorck: then I would think that grub did not install completely
[12:21] <hobgoblin> hi there meindian523
[12:25] <meindian523> hi hobgoblin
[12:25] <meindian523> wassup?
[12:27] <hobgoblin> not too much  - saturday lunch time - resting just in case I get busy later :)
[12:27] <meindian523> nice
[12:27]  * meindian523 is pretty paranoid right now
[12:28] <hobgoblin> how are you - not seen you about much
[12:28] <hobgoblin> oh dear
[12:28] <meindian523> hobgoblin, yeah, been in and out, but not too much on IRC nowadays
[12:28] <meindian523> hi mistrynitesh
[12:29]  * meindian523 checked Google's dashboard about information Google has about him
[12:29] <hobgoblin> meindian523: it's not the same around these parts any longer
[12:29] <mistrynitesh_> meindian523: hi
[12:29] <meindian523> found quite a bit, and wondering how to delete the stuff
[12:29] <meindian523> hobgoblin, hmm, how so?
[12:29] <hobgoblin> don't worry about what google know - it's what the gov'ts know that counts
[12:29] <meindian523> mistrynitesh, no publick key on your website man
[12:30] <meindian523> hobgoblin, well, don't want a patriot something to get what Google know into government's hands yeah?
[12:30] <mistrynitesh_> meindian523: public key?
[12:30] <meindian523> mistrynitesh, yep, your public key
[12:31] <mistrynitesh_> you mean gpg public key in contact info?
[12:31] <meindian523> evolution keeps complaining that a key was found but can't verify because the public key isn't available
[12:31] <meindian523> mistrynitesh, yeah
[12:31] <mistrynitesh_> meindian523: will put it today
[12:31] <meindian523> hobgoblin, I think you know I'm in the US now?
[12:31] <meindian523> mistrynitesh, :)
[12:31] <hobgoblin> meindian523: no I didn't know that
[12:32] <meindian523> hobgoblin, am, for graduate school
[12:32] <mistrynitesh_> meindian523: thanks for reminding! :)
[12:32] <meindian523> in UK English, I should say postgraduate maybe
[12:32] <meindian523> mistrynitesh, no problem
[12:33] <meindian523> Masters level programs are called postgraduate everywhere except the US, correct?
[12:35] <vu1kan> <<sudo ntfsundelete /dev/sdb1 -umf *.avi -d /dev/sda1/DrWho/>> is there anything wrong with my syntax?
[12:39] <meindian523> vu1kan, nothing obvious, as far as I can see
[12:40] <vu1kan> meindian523: thanx much
[12:43] <rocka> Hi, can anyone tell me how to run a command at a set time every day for 7 days?
[12:43] <meindian523> rocka, cron
[12:43] <rocka> for example, streamripper [url, etc]
[12:44] <rocka> thanks meindian, going to go google cron now... :)
[12:49] <DOM__> Hello World?
[12:49] <DOM__> i'm new
[12:50] <DOM__> how do I copy files in the terminal?
[12:51] <vu1kan> cp [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY
[12:52] <DOM__> what is the [option]?
[12:52] <vu1kan> it's indicating where you'd specify any options you want to pass to the command
[12:53] <DOM__> ok, kinda makes sense
[12:53] <vu1kan> open a terminal and type <info cp> for more details.  press <q> to exit that
[12:54] <DOM__> is there a page where i can have a table with meanings for commands vs command names that is beginner friendly?
[12:56] <vu1kan> http://ubuntu-manual.org/ < this might be a good place to start
[12:57] <zeroseven0183> DOM__ If a Terminal is already open on your desktop, you can type "man cp"
[12:57] <zeroseven0183> That will show brief description for each
[12:58] <zeroseven0183> arguments in the command line for cp
[12:58] <zeroseven0183> *each argument
[12:58] <DOM__> seems like it does show me info about the copy command
[12:58] <zeroseven0183> Still, the best place to start is the Ubuntu Manual
[12:58] <DOM__> but not all commands
[12:59] <zeroseven0183> the "man cp" is only a manual page for the Copy command
[13:00] <DOM__> how do i get to the ubuntu manual?
[13:00] <zeroseven0183> Meaning, to get the descriptions for other commands, for example, "ifconfig" (the Unix equivalent command of ipconfig in Windows") -- you type man ifconfig
[13:00] <zeroseven0183> Go to the link vu1kan posted, you can download a copy for free
[13:01] <DOM__> oh, i overlooked, sorry
[13:03] <zeroseven0183> ;-)
[13:03] <DOM__> Thank you guys!
[13:03] <DOM__> =]
[13:03] <zeroseven0183> Sure. Enjoy!
[13:04] <DOM__> on a other note: how good is wine instead of native windows for games
[13:05] <zeroseven0183> Hmmm... I really don't do much gaming Ubuntu (and Windows). But the new version of Wine is pretty stable
[13:05] <pabstsmear> I have an intel GMA 4500 graphics card and I have been reading they are kind of troublesome.  Mine keeps glitching out.  shooting some weird static across the screen.  Would anybody recommend something like this: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-latest-intel-driver-2.12-on-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx  ...  I really don't want to have to migrate back to a windows based operating system.
[13:06] <meindian523> DOM__, really depends n which games you want
[13:07] <DOM__> i have a lot of steam games
[13:07] <pabstsmear> also its interesting to note that I can do some modelling in blender without too much trouble, though nothing super high-poly.
[13:07] <meindian523> hmm
[13:07] <DOM__> modern warfare 2 would be an example
[13:07] <geirha> DOM__: http://appdb.winehq.org/  Search for your games there
[13:07]  * meindian523 googles Wine's compatibility database
[13:08] <meindian523> ah,thanks geirha
[13:08] <geirha> If they get gold or platinum rating, it means they work well with wine
[13:09] <DOM__> thank you, that website is exactly what i wanted.
[13:10] <zeroseven0183> Modern Warfare 2 is here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=18348
[13:10] <zeroseven0183> And it's Gold in rating :-)
[13:11] <DOM__> good
[13:12] <DOM__> what would be a good video converter that supports multi-core/-thread and has a GUI?
[13:15] <zeroseven0183> DOM__ you can try WinFF
[13:15] <zeroseven0183> It's in the Ubuntu Software Center
[13:16] <geirha> DOM__: Applications -> Ubuntu software center -> Search for «video converter». I haven't tried any of them, but you can just install them, try, then uninstall if they don't do the job.
[13:16] <DOM__> that's one thing i REALLY apprechiate:
[13:17] <DOM__> uninstalling is easy, and you don't have to bother with"your trial has expired"
[13:17] <zeroseven0183> Right
[13:31] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[13:32] <zeroseven0183> Good evening, duanedesign
[13:33] <hobgoblin> hello again duanedesign
[13:37] <DOM__> I just tested Winff and it does not use multiple cores (wich is what i want). any suggestions?
[15:56] <sebsebseb> Hi
[16:10] <duanedesign> hey there sebsebseb
[16:11] <sebsebseb> duanedesign: hey
[19:04] <harrisonk> Hello
[19:05] <harrisonk> What should I do when it looks as though the X server is crashing the system?
[19:13] <bobo123> does it crash directly when you start ubuntu, or when you are using a certain program?
[19:47] <iceflatline> Any twitter client recommendations?  I've had it with Gwibber.
[19:51] <harrisonk> bobo123 still there?
[19:52] <harrisonk> It happens when using programs not when loging in.
[20:07] <bobo123> harrisonk: oups... well still at the computer, but my mind is elsewhere :-)
[20:08] <bobo123> have you asked at the normal #ubuntu channel allso, or country specific one, btw?
[20:09] <bobo123> wich program makes X crash for you, or any of them??
[20:34] <harrisonk> bobo123: its a friend of mind that has the problem, I tried spining the cube and it crashed, I tried adjusting the WM preferences and it crashed (I was visting her house that is why I said "I did")
[20:34] <harrisonk> off somewhere I will be back.
[21:36] <IdleOne> alkisg: Welcome! feel free to idle and help out when you can :)
[21:36] <alkisg> Thanks for the tip :)
[21:36] <IdleOne> sure thing
[21:39] <zkriesse> IdleOne: ah hi?
[21:40] <zkriesse> alkisg: Hello...
[21:40] <IdleOne> hello zkriesse
[21:40] <alkisg> Hi
[21:41] <IdleOne> zkriesse: alkisg was looking for a channel #edubuntu can refer new users to irc and ubuntu. I suggested this channel
[21:41] <zkriesse> IdleOne: Ah.....
[21:41] <zkriesse> alkisg: Well welcome!
[21:41] <zkriesse> IdleOne: Thanks dude..good recommendation
[21:41] <alkisg> Thanks, good to find you
[21:41] <zkriesse> alkisg: ha....
[21:42] <IdleOne> zkriesse: figured this channel is a good place to get people used to irc and also ask for some help with ubuntu :)
[21:42] <alkisg> I've been hearing lots of people having problems getting used to all the traffic in ubuntu, this seems much less overwhelming for a new user :)
[21:42] <zkriesse> alkisg: it is indeed
[21:43] <zkriesse> alkisg: #ubuntu is quite the overwhelming channel...ESPECIALLY if you're just starting out with ubuntu and IRC
[21:44] <zkriesse> alkisg: Just so ya know this is the Beginners Team help channel. If you wanna just chat/get to know the team /join #ubuntu-beginners-team
[21:44] <zkriesse> That's where all the "fun" is :)
[21:45] <alkisg> Heh
[21:45] <alkisg> Nice, thank you
[21:45] <zkriesse> alkisg: Yup
[21:45] <zkriesse> alkisg: So do you run any teams or such?
[21:45] <alkisg> I'm in a government team trying to put (ed)ubuntu in greek schools...
[21:46] <zkriesse> Ah
[21:46] <zkriesse> Very nice
[21:46] <alkisg> We're doing fine so far, I hope we can do a lot more in a few years
[21:46] <zkriesse> Is there a channel for it on freenode?
[21:46] <alkisg> #linux.sch.gr
[21:46] <alkisg> Unofficial
[21:46] <zkriesse> alkisg: Ah if it's an unofficial channel then you need to use ## not #
[21:47] <zkriesse> otherwise freenode will require you to file a GRF (Group Registration Form)
[21:47] <alkisg> Another person applied for the channel, I don't know the details, I'll tell him to take care of that.
[21:47] <zkriesse> alkisg: Ok just thought I'd let ya know
[21:48] <alkisg> I was wondering why sed is ##sed... thank you for mentioning it :)
[21:48] <zkriesse> :)
[22:09] <nUboon2Age> stlsaint: i heard seidos mention that you'd recommended a separate /boot partition and i wanted to ask what the reasons for doing that are.
[22:11]  * meindian523 recommends it too but forgot the document which persuaded him to go for separate /boot s
[22:20] <stlsaint> nUboon2Age: sup
[22:20] <stlsaint> nUboon2Age: its more for a better setup for reinstallation
[22:21] <stlsaint> nUboon2Age: if you have boot problems you can easily reinstall your boot files without touching your personal data partition
[22:21] <stlsaint> nUboon2Age: then if you need to fresh install you just reinstall the /boot and / and you never touch data
[22:22] <stlsaint> nUboon2Age: primarily is to keep your /home partition away from all the reinstall/troubleshooting procedures...at least it is for me
[22:23] <stlsaint> nUboon2Age: was it you that i was talking to about with usign the multiboot thing over vbox?
[23:22] <stlsaint> pleia2: poke
[23:22] <pleia2> stlsaint: hey
[23:22] <stlsaint> Joeb454: poke
[23:22] <stlsaint> fail
[23:23] <stlsaint> pleia2: hey is there some type of spam attack going on with freenode?
[23:23] <pleia2> I haven't heard of anything, but I'm travelling so I haven't paid much attention
[23:24] <stlsaint> pleia2: someone by the nick of Brandie has joined the whube channel and another channel i am in and posted a message
[23:24] <stlsaint> pleia2: 22:15 -!- Brandie [~Brandie@69.73.232.58] has joined #whube
[23:24] <stlsaint> 22:15 < Brandie> Spamming is fun!  Brought to you by FreeNode. /join #freenode
[23:24] <pleia2> :\
[23:24] <pleia2> maybe report it in #freenode?
[23:25] <stlsaint> pleia2: i ask because this nick...Brandie is one of many that is being used in the latest bot that is attacking ssh servers across the net
[23:25] <stlsaint> the nick brandie that is
[23:26] <stlsaint> also another nick sebbie did the exact same thing
[23:26] <pleia2> probably unrelated, ssh attacks and spammers use similar dictionary name lists but they tend to be very different attacks
[23:26] <stlsaint> pleia2: im scared to join freenode :P scared ill be a target next or something
[23:26] <pleia2> ah, fair enough
[23:27] <stlsaint> pleia2: yea thats why i ask maybe you ubuntu leads have heard something
[23:27] <pleia2> nope, 'fraid not
[23:28] <pleia2> I think I've recovered from my redeye flight though!
[23:28] <pleia2> couldn't sleep on the plane last night, but we were able to check into the hotel early and snag a few hours of sleep :)
[23:29] <stlsaint> pleia2: you are a professional traveler!! Every month your traveling somewhere :P
[23:29] <pleia2> lol
[23:29] <pleia2> I didn't go anywhere in august!
[23:29] <stlsaint> pfft...sure you didnt
[23:30] <Joeb454> stlsaint: you poked?
[23:30] <meindian523> Brandie is also spamming in #defocus
[23:31] <stlsaint> Joeb454: hrm, i was wondering if you had came across and spam attack news today with freenod
[23:31] <meindian523> apparently related to some software called idoru which may or may not be in OSS
[23:31] <meindian523> *may or may not be OSS
[23:32] <Joeb454> stlsaint: not heard of it
[23:32] <Joeb454> I couldn't get onto freenode earlier though
[23:34] <stlsaint> yea im too much a wimp to try and join freenode right now
[23:42] <zkriesse> stlsaint: I'm in freenode
[23:42] <stlsaint> zkriesse: anything there?
[23:42] <zkriesse> eh some people refusing to go to ##comment-on-spam
[23:43] <zkriesse> People complaining about trolls
[23:43] <zkriesse> Not much just the usual bull
[23:43] <stlsaint> hrm, kk thanks zkriesse
[23:43] <zkriesse> sure..
[23:43] <zkriesse> thanks for?
[23:43] <stlsaint> the update