=== Sarvatt is now known as Sarvatt|gone [01:35] sigh.. what's the new gthumb? [01:36] or is gthumb supposed to still be installable (looks like it) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [03:00] GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.Evince.Default' is not installed [03:00] ^^ wtf is that about? === steve|m1 is now known as steve|m === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [09:40] did something break w/gcc-4.4/ppc? libgcc_s.so seems to have gone away === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [10:06] Laney: ScottK and slangasek have been looking into that [10:07] cjwatson: ah yes I missed the chat in #-release, thanks [10:21] cjwatson, Laney: so I haven't managed to get a test build done yet because I forgot to set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck (I've done so now, it's faster to build it all again than it is to let the testsuite run on davis); I was waiting for that to finish before pushing to the archive, given that lamont isn't around to restart the buildds anyway [10:21] slangasek: the buildds appear to be on (at least that's how I found out about it, through FTBFS mails) [10:22] Laney: hmm, how recent was the last one? [10:22] Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:55:50 -0000 [10:22] my understanding was lamont put the buildds to manual [10:22] hmm [10:23] ok, perhaps I should just upload this then [10:25] har; except that in the meantime, gcc-4.4 has been upgraded in the davis chroot, so now it can't bootstrap [10:25] well, that answers /that/ question [10:54] slangasek, does linaro do any tegra2 work ? i just found out that the toshiba AC100 (tegra2, 512M, 8G SATA SSD) is sold around the corner here (for 380 euro which is a bit expensive but given you can do arm work on the go ...) [10:55] ogra_cmpc: nope, not on the roadmap [10:55] hmm, sad [11:03] just FYI it seems that on armel most packages FTBFS too with "C compiler cant create executables" [11:03] ogra_cmpc: gcc-4.4 breakage; I've just uploaded the fix, but I guess someone is need to going to have to re-bootstrap it by hand since gcc-4.4 itself now FTBFS on these archs [11:04] slangasek, ah, good, i was assuming someone already noticed it, just wanted to point it out in case :) [11:05] (since the above conversation seems to refer to ppc) [11:05] yeah, I had just noticed the armel breakage [11:09] I since got some FTBFS from that too on armel [11:09] such fun. :) [11:21] cjwatson, lamont: can you sort out from here what needs to happen to rebootstrap gcc-4.4? I'm thinking about sleeping === ximion is now known as ximion-afk === ximion-afk is now known as 52AAB9Y4B === 52AAB9Y4B is now known as ximion === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [13:30] slangasek: I did put them on manual... looks like someone else put them back on auto... [13:37] so... are we expecting these gcc builds now running to be what we need? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:51] james_w`: ping? we both are supposed to coordinate package training for this month - just fyi === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:31] lamont, slangasek, Laney, and cjwatson: Looks like the same problem eventually affected armel too. [15:31] ScottK: that was the scrollback from about 5 hours ago [15:31] lamont: OK. Missed it. [15:31] waiting for 4.4 13ubuntu1 to finish building [15:31] Yep. [15:31] Ah, yes. scanned over that part. [15:51] do we have plans for NFS over IPv6 support ? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === Sarvatt|gone is now known as Sarvatt === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [16:53] i would like to develop something to let Android-devices owners to use it as a multi-touch trackpad [16:53] where can i find any info on how to do that? [16:54] hmmm interesting [16:54] you should wait till monday and ask on #ubuntu-x [16:54] they can help [16:55] ok :) i'll start the android stuff, then ask for help on monday, as you said [16:55] ty [16:58] np [16:58] or tuesday since its a us holiday [16:58] since monday is a us holiday rather [18:16] /quit === ximion is now known as 84XAAWBHY === 84XAAWBHY is now known as ximion === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:43] Hmm, for some reason it seems expat_2.0.1.orig.tar.gz in lucid is corrupted - it fails to extract here [20:43] (trying apt-get source libexpat1) [20:45] sigh - same with the real upstream tarball it seems [20:46] and there are bugs for it [20:46] * MattJ pretends he was never here [22:12] where is the package gcc3 [22:12] its just gcc [22:13] there is no other package [22:13] I want the old version [22:13] you can grab that from packages.ubuntu.com [22:14] but you shouldnt use the old versions [22:14] there isn't any on packages.ubuntu.com [22:14] at least for lucid [22:14] and can't I keep them side by side as in hardy [22:14] there is but you need to go to previous versions of ubuntu [22:15] its not in the archive for a long time [22:15] and why has it been removed in the latest repos [22:15] because its old [22:15] its been updated [22:15] we always have the most recent compliers [22:15] *still it was not hurting anyone. now it is hurting me :( [22:16] what is the problem you're trying to solve by using gcc3? [22:16] it takes effort to maintain packages [22:16] and the concerned software is old really old [22:16] ponyprog [22:16] anyway this is off topic for this IRC channel really [22:17] this topic-> the concerned software or gcc version? [22:17] thats not what this channel is for [22:18] this is the channel for developing ubuntu [22:18] ok sorry guys... bye [22:18] but its quiet at the moment so we can continue [22:18] its fine [22:18] ahh [22:18] can I setup chroot to build using gcc3 [22:19] or are there any flags so that, gcc4 will build like gcc3 [22:19] why does it not build with the current gcc? [22:19] have you tried just building it and see what it says? [22:21] if you really need gcc 3 you should go to the last version of ubuntu that shipped it [22:21] stick it in a vm or set up a dual boot with the old version [22:21] fagan: check the software ponyprog. it is old very very old [22:22] but have you tried to build it anyway [22:22] it doesnt matter how old it still might build [22:22] fagan: it uses some really old gui library .... and many other things... which generate so many errors [22:22] ah ok [22:22] well then your a bit stuck [22:23] the only thing I could suggest is do it in a vm [22:23] fagan: it pretty much depends on nothing, so I want to make a deb for it and use it. [22:23] well then a vm is the best option [22:24] make the deb in the vm and then it should work away [22:25] okay, will try on hardy. thanks [22:33] fagan: We have versioned gcc packages, such as gcc-4.4 and gcc4.5 with one being the default. [22:33] yeah but not as old as 3 though [22:34] i actually thought we just had one but I saw that we had 4.4 and 4.5 [22:34] apparle: There's a gcc-3.3 in Maverick that should be relatively backportable if you need libstdc++5. [22:35] fagan: We have bits of 3.3 back in maverick because lots of people need libstdc++5 to run popular closed source software. [22:35] oh [22:35] I didnt know that [22:35] apparle: If you can test building gcc-3.3 from maverick on lucid, I can see about getting an official backport done. [22:35] Gotta run. [22:35] ScottK: so in maverick I should be able to compile it. [22:36] ScottK: I'll try in beta === ion_ is now known as ion