[01:35] <lamont> sigh.. what's the new gthumb?
[01:36] <lamont> or is gthumb supposed to still be installable (looks like it)
[03:00] <lamont> GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.Evince.Default' is not installed
[03:00] <lamont> ^^ wtf is that about?
[09:40] <Laney> did something break w/gcc-4.4/ppc? libgcc_s.so seems to have gone away
[10:06] <cjwatson> Laney: ScottK and slangasek have been looking into that
[10:07] <Laney> cjwatson: ah yes I missed the chat in #-release, thanks
[10:21] <slangasek> cjwatson, Laney: so I haven't managed to get a test build done yet because I forgot to set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck (I've done so now, it's faster to build it all again than it is to let the testsuite run on davis); I was waiting for that to finish before pushing to the archive, given that lamont isn't around to restart the buildds anyway
[10:21] <Laney> slangasek: the buildds appear to be on (at least that's how I found out about it, through FTBFS mails)
[10:22] <slangasek> Laney: hmm, how recent was the last one?
[10:22] <Laney> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:55:50 -0000
[10:22] <slangasek> my understanding was lamont put the buildds to manual
[10:22] <slangasek> hmm
[10:23] <slangasek> ok, perhaps I should just upload this then
[10:25] <slangasek> har; except that in the meantime, gcc-4.4 has been upgraded in the davis chroot, so now it can't bootstrap
[10:25] <slangasek> well, that answers /that/ question
[10:54] <ogra_cmpc> slangasek, does linaro do any tegra2 work ? i just found out that the toshiba AC100 (tegra2, 512M, 8G SATA SSD) is sold around the corner here (for 380 euro which is a bit expensive but given you can do arm work on the go ...)
[10:55] <slangasek> ogra_cmpc: nope, not on the roadmap
[10:55] <ogra_cmpc> hmm, sad
[11:03] <ogra_cmpc> just FYI it seems that on armel most packages FTBFS too with "C compiler cant create executables"
[11:03] <slangasek> ogra_cmpc: gcc-4.4 breakage; I've just uploaded the fix, but I guess someone is need to going to have to re-bootstrap it by hand since gcc-4.4 itself now FTBFS on these archs
[11:04] <ogra_cmpc> slangasek, ah, good, i was assuming someone already noticed it, just wanted to point it out in case :)
[11:05] <ogra_cmpc> (since the above conversation seems to refer to ppc)
[11:05] <slangasek> yeah, I had just noticed the armel breakage
[11:09] <Laney> I since got some FTBFS from that too on armel
[11:09] <Laney> such fun. :)
[11:21] <slangasek> cjwatson, lamont: can you sort out from here what needs to happen to rebootstrap gcc-4.4?  I'm thinking about sleeping
[13:30] <lamont> slangasek: I did put them on manual... looks like someone else put them back on auto...
[13:37] <lamont> so... are we expecting these gcc builds now running to be what we need?
[13:51] <nigelb> james_w`: ping? we both are supposed to coordinate package training for this month - just fyi
[15:31] <ScottK> lamont, slangasek, Laney, and cjwatson: Looks like the same problem eventually affected armel too.
[15:31] <lamont> ScottK: that was the scrollback from about 5 hours ago
[15:31] <ScottK> lamont: OK.  Missed it.
[15:31] <lamont> waiting for 4.4 13ubuntu1 to finish building
[15:31] <ScottK> Yep.
[15:31] <ScottK> Ah, yes.  scanned over that part.
[15:51] <dupondje> do we have plans for NFS over IPv6 support ?
[16:53] <jonasfa> i would like to develop something to let Android-devices owners to use it as a multi-touch trackpad
[16:53] <jonasfa> where can i find any info on how to do that?
[16:54] <fagan> hmmm interesting
[16:54] <fagan> you should wait till monday and ask on #ubuntu-x
[16:54] <fagan> they can help
[16:55] <jonasfa> ok :) i'll start the android stuff, then ask for help on monday, as you said
[16:55] <jonasfa> ty
[16:58] <fagan> np
[16:58] <fagan> or tuesday since its a us holiday
[16:58] <fagan> since monday is a us holiday rather
[18:16] <Hobbsee>  /quit
[20:43] <MattJ> Hmm, for some reason it seems expat_2.0.1.orig.tar.gz in lucid is corrupted - it fails to extract here
[20:43] <MattJ> (trying apt-get source libexpat1)
[20:45] <MattJ> sigh - same with the real upstream tarball it seems
[20:46] <MattJ> and there are bugs for it
[20:46]  * MattJ pretends he was never here
[22:12] <apparle> where is the package gcc3
[22:12] <fagan> its just gcc
[22:13] <fagan> there is no other package
[22:13] <apparle> I want the old version
[22:13] <fagan> you can grab that from packages.ubuntu.com
[22:14] <fagan> but you shouldnt use the old versions
[22:14] <apparle> there isn't any on packages.ubuntu.com
[22:14] <apparle> at least for lucid
[22:14] <apparle> and can't I keep them side by side as in hardy
[22:14] <fagan> there is but you need to go to previous versions of ubuntu
[22:15] <fagan> its not in the archive for a long time
[22:15] <apparle> and why has it been removed in the latest repos
[22:15] <fagan> because its old
[22:15] <fagan> its been updated
[22:15] <fagan> we always have the most recent compliers
[22:15] <apparle> *still it was not hurting anyone. now it is hurting me :(
[22:16] <jolan> what is the problem you're trying to solve by using gcc3?
[22:16] <fagan> it takes effort to maintain packages
[22:16] <apparle> and the concerned software is old really old
[22:16] <apparle> ponyprog
[22:16] <fagan> anyway this is off topic for this IRC channel really
[22:17] <apparle> this topic-> the concerned software or gcc version?
[22:17] <fagan> thats not what this channel is for
[22:18] <fagan> this is the channel for developing ubuntu
[22:18] <apparle> ok sorry guys... bye
[22:18] <fagan> but its quiet at the moment so we can continue
[22:18] <fagan> its fine
[22:18] <apparle> ahh
[22:18] <apparle> can I setup chroot to build using gcc3
[22:19] <apparle> or are there any flags so that, gcc4 will build like gcc3
[22:19] <fagan> why does it not build with the current gcc?
[22:19] <fagan> have you tried just building it and see what it says?
[22:21] <fagan> if you really need gcc 3 you should go to the last version of ubuntu that shipped it
[22:21] <fagan> stick it in a vm or set up a dual boot with the old version
[22:21] <apparle> fagan: check the software ponyprog. it is old very very old
[22:22] <fagan> but have you tried to build it anyway
[22:22] <fagan> it doesnt matter how old it still might build
[22:22] <apparle> fagan: it uses some really old gui library .... and many other things... which generate so many errors
[22:22] <fagan> ah ok
[22:22] <fagan> well then your a bit stuck
[22:23] <fagan> the only thing I could suggest is do it in a vm
[22:23] <apparle> fagan: it pretty much depends on nothing, so I want to make a deb for it and use it.
[22:23] <fagan> well then a vm is the best option
[22:24] <fagan> make the deb in the vm and then it should work away
[22:25] <apparle> okay, will try on hardy. thanks
[22:33] <ScottK> fagan: We have versioned gcc packages, such as gcc-4.4 and gcc4.5 with one being the default.
[22:33] <fagan> yeah but not as old as 3 though
[22:34] <fagan> i actually thought we just had one but I saw that we had 4.4 and 4.5
[22:34] <ScottK> apparle: There's a gcc-3.3 in Maverick that should be relatively backportable if you need libstdc++5.
[22:35] <ScottK> fagan: We have bits of 3.3 back in maverick because lots of people need libstdc++5 to run popular closed source software.
[22:35] <fagan> oh
[22:35] <fagan> I didnt know that
[22:35] <ScottK> apparle: If you can test building gcc-3.3 from maverick on lucid, I can see about getting an official backport done.
[22:35] <ScottK> Gotta run.
[22:35] <apparle> ScottK: so in maverick I should be able to compile it.
[22:36] <apparle> ScottK: I'll try in beta