Mamarokthe 2.3.1 package in the PPA works fine, so usually we ask those people to upgrade00:00
SputScottK: so before I start investigating moar deeply, I'd like to know if you're using a pristine Qt or one that has been modified in that regard :) either way, providing a patch for kubuntu that adapts to the old behavior should be easy, *if* it's that issue (and not some other thing breaking)00:00
MamarokI already reported this when Lucid was released BTW...00:00
ScottKSput: OK I can check.  We do have patches, just no idea if it affects that.00:00
SputScottK: specifically it's Qt commit e6ac1739 that caused the behavior change00:01
ScottKMamarok: Is there an "original" bug you've been marking newer reports as a duplicate?00:03
MamarokScottK: I have always closed those reported to bugzilla as downstream00:03
Mamarokso no major bug I can give you, sorry00:03
Mamarokdidn't check in Launchpad00:04
ScottKOK. 00:04
ScottKSput: Any patches we had would be at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/qt/ubuntu/files in debian/patches, but I can't seem to reach it right now.00:06
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1171730 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Share a bit more code in MuonMainWindow00:06
SputScottK: thanks. I'll be off for the night soon, but I'd appreciate you pinging me if you figure something out. I have access to a kubuntu user tomorrow which would allow me debugging that issue hopefully00:10
Sput(can't reach lp either)00:10
SputScottK: worst case I'll provide a patch disabling the workaround and making it work correctly unless all hell breaks loose :)00:12
ScottKI think my next blog post is Kubuntu Maverick + Intel graphics = Fail00:15
SputScottK: make that s/^.*\+ //00:16
shadeslayerScottK: thats already been documented alot in bugs.launchpad :P00:30
shadeslayerfind something new :)00:30
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1171739 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) A bit more sharing00:36
ScottKNeed to figure out how to blacklist the login effects for Intel to start.00:36
JontheEchidnaoh hey, it works00:36
shadeslayerthey fix nvidia and break intel.. ingenious :)00:37
ScottKshadeslayer: Intel works.  It just doesn't work very well with KDE 4.5 Kwin.00:38
shadeslayerkwin is too heavy on intel? :P00:39
ScottKIt is now.00:40
ScottKIt's been great up through 4.4.00:40
JontheEchidnaintel drivers don't properly report their capabilites, and now kwin uses functionality that intel improperly reports as supporting00:40
JontheEchidna(framebuffer based shaders and the like)00:40
ScottKJontheEchidna: Yes and there is no coordination between the two and we are left holding the bag.00:42
ScottKLooks like lucid will be the terminal release for my laptop.00:46
JontheEchidnahttp://imgur.com/FIdOO <- new in muon trunk00:47
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1171746 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp Only listen for jobs started by us00:55
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1171747 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (7 files in 2 dirs) Add Pretty Includes for all public headers01:03
SputScottK: mgraesslin was sitting next to me all day. you should've heard him curse.01:09
ScottKSput: At adding lots of new crap that breaks user's systems?01:14
ScottKSput: Where were you?01:14
SputScottK: some local KDE hackfest01:14
ScottKI see.01:14
Sputwith Nightrose, lemma, Torch and some others01:15
SputKarli too01:15
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1171749 * (22 files in 6 dirs) Use new pretty includes in LibQApt01:15
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1171750 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files in 2 dirs) More usage of Pretty Includes that I forgot01:19
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1171756 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Add the package origin to the TechnicalDetailsTab01:32
claydohJontheEchidna: you rock! I really appreciate it that you spend some quality time in kfn :)01:41
ScottKSo did we drop a patch or did upstream introduce a new bug in 4.5.1 kdeedu? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54970126/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdeedu_4:4.5.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz02:02
Viper550Is there a good partitioning tool for qt4?04:10
ScottKApparently 3 desktops, 3 netbooks, and a laptop aren't enough to have one system that works right with Maverick (Kwin 4.5 + Intel = endless fail).05:12
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ScottKFYI, it looks like the answer to my kdeedu question is we dropped a patch we shouldn't have.06:58
ScottK(test building a fix now)06:59
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apacheloggershadeslayer: so I looked, but what do I see?09:02
apacheloggerother than that you are not obeying surrounding code formatting09:03
apacheloggerScottK: I love me a good docbook fail09:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: from what i gather from the sparse surroudning of that patch in lack of motivation to open the file ... you are doing bogus things09:12
apacheloggerthe ifs above correct the mime to something proper09:13
apacheloggerthere are specific mimetypes for compressed tars and specific mimetypes for compressed postscripts...09:13
apacheloggeryou however changed the mime to text/plain which is simply wrong09:13
apacheloggerbecause it is compressed text/plain09:13
apacheloggerso rekonq tries to open plain text and falls over compression09:14
francisco_tHi, who knows about kdepim/akonadi?09:15
apacheloggerfrancisco_t: morning, #akonadi knows a lot about that stuff ;)09:18
francisco_tDo you know any bug about duplicates "personal contacts" in kaddressbook/akonadi in maverik beta? (fresh install)09:18
francisco_tI get two "personal contacts" in kaddressbook (empty), and akonadi have 2 "personal contacts" and 3 "contactos personales" (spanish), repeated?. It's the first boot of kontact.09:23
Sputmeeeh. launchpad still down?09:36
francisco_tclean install in english, same problem, two "personal contacs" in kaddressbook and 4 resource in akonadi...09:36
Sputwell bazaar.launchpad.net at lesat09:36
yofelSput: here too, there were a few people complaining already in #launchpad09:38
SputI really need to know which patches kubuntu applies to qt-4.7-rc109:40
apacheloggerfrancisco_t: you really should ask in #akonadi or maybe #kontact09:40
apacheloggerSput: that can be arranged for09:41
Sputapachelogger: thanks... since quassel seems to be broken with kubuntu's 4.7-rc1, and I have a victim for debugging nearby currently :)09:42
yofelSput: what happens?09:42
* yofel didn't upgrade qt yet09:42
* apachelogger is wondering if starcraft2 is worth its money09:43
Sputyofel: wordwrap is broken, and it looks like I am applying a workaround that I need to apply to the 4.7 branch of Qt (I'm using that), but somehow don't need to apply on kubuntu's rc109:43
Sputapachelogger: it totally is, but it'll destroy your social life09:43
yofeloh that ^^09:43
apacheloggerI do not have no social life09:43
apacheloggerSput: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/patches/09:43
apacheloggerthe thingies listed in the series file get applied09:44
apacheloggereverything with a kubuntu_ prefix is from us everything else from debian and there partially from qt-copy I suppose09:44
Sputdoesn't look suspicious09:46
Sputso now I need to figure out why quassel thinks it runs on Qt 4.609:46
Sputapachelogger: are you using 4.7-rc1? is your wordwrap broken too?09:48
apacheloggerdid not restart quassel yet09:49
apacheloggerSput: where would I see if wordwrap is broken?09:49
Sputapachelogger: all words are broken past their first character09:49
apacheloggerlooks pretty normal to me here09:50
Sputand I assume you're using quassel-0.7-rc too?09:50
yofelapachelogger: I do get 'appl\ny' here as word wrap09:50
yofelv0.8-pre (0.8-pre+2 git-0ec85b3)09:51
Sputyofel: oh? the other guy here gets a\npply09:51
apachelogger0.7-rc1 09:51
Sputthis makes things... awkward.09:51
yofelSput: still running qt4.7beta09:51
yofelupgrading qt right now09:51
Sputyofel: thanks09:52
Sputapachelogger: meh. and I thought this would be easy.09:52
Sputall reports for broken wordwrap came from kubuntu users09:53
apacheloggerthat is because we have so many :P09:53
francisco_tMaybe the bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21594509:54
ubottuKDE bug 215945 in general "Duplicate akonadi ressources at akonadi first run" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]09:54
francisco_tthanks apachelogger09:54
yofelSput: here word wrap looks perfectly fine with rc109:57
Sputyofel: ah. as it should be. it being broken with the beta was expected09:57
Sputapachelogger, yofel: you're using maverick? maybe it's a problem in lucid only09:58
apacheloggermav too09:58
Sputthough I think ScottK reported broken wordwrap too09:58
Sputhmmm, then I should check the patches in the lucid backport package of qt09:59
SputScottK might have been running a 4.7 beta as well09:59
Sputlooks like all the guys reporting broken wordwrap with 4.7-rc1 are also running lucid + backports...10:02
Sputlol. and running quassel-0.6.1 which doesn't contain the bugfix for qt 4.7...10:06
Sputproblem solved.10:07
apacheloggerdo we need to deploy fixness?10:07
Sputno, but I need to release a 0.6.2 that contains the fix for Qt 4.710:08
Sputand I need to figure out if ScottK still has the problem with 4.7-rc110:08
Sputhere's the gist of it: quassel 0.6 runs well with Qt 4.6, but is broken with Qt 4.7 post beta10:08
Sputquassel 0.7 runs well with Qt 4.6 and Qt 4.7 post beta, but is broken with Qt 4.7 pre rc110:09
Sputthat means users with quassel 0.6 and qt 4.7 post rc1 get in trouble10:09
Sputand all that thanks to the #$%#@!$@$ Nokians changing behavior/return value of a function mid-cycle10:09
apacheloggersurely brisbane is at fault! :P10:10
* apachelogger adores multimediakit10:10
* Sput makes a 0.6.2 release10:10
* apachelogger still finds it silly that amarok can filter stupid resources10:11
apacheloggerI always type in my search and expect it to come up with actual music10:12
apacheloggerwir fahrn fahrn fahrn auf der autobahn *sing*10:12
jussiapachelogger: you always wanted to shoot a bear... right? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M&feature=player_embedded10:19
* jussi giggles10:20
apacheloggerI am the flash inside your heart10:22
apachelogger<3 identica10:24
apacheloggerdid anyone upload l10n for 4.5.1 to the ppa?10:38
mfraz74had to remove ktorrent this morning and then reinstall it as it wouldn't upgrade properly10:45
Mamarokclaydoh, Riddell: JFYI, I set the user bhaskarsharma on moderation in the kubuntu-users ML. He is not using KDE and only bashing about it.11:16
Mamarokand we should maybe just remind people that suggesting to change desktop is not a solution when people ask for help11:16
MamarokThere are too many folks who don't even run KDE, no idea what they are doing in that ML11:16
apacheloggerI wonder why suse's funambol 8 got a soverison and ruphy's funambol 9 snapshot does not11:27
mfraz74Mamarok: i agree, switching to gnome isn't a solution.11:35
Mamarokmfraz74: the users are on this mailing list because they use Kubuntu, so suggesting to switch to Gnome is just not acceptable.11:39
MamarokI wonder what would happen if somebody would go to the ubuntu-users list and tell people to switch to KDE...11:40
mfraz74Mamarok: exactly11:40
SputMamarok: only good things, obviously.11:40
MamarokSput: oh please try, I would love to see the flameware ;)11:42
apacheloggeryou know11:43
apacheloggerthat would be just the right thing for a boring sunday afternoon11:43
* apachelogger shouts at funambol11:58
apacheloggerScottK: ping?12:03
apacheloggerScottK: love your blog post 12:34
apachelogger"Canonical hat zusätzlich die Browseralternative Rekonq beigelegt, die standardmäßig eine Webkit-Engine mitbringt."12:39
apacheloggerMamarok: they just made me cry again12:40
yofelalternative? wasn't that the default? o.O (or is that for gnome o.O?)12:40
apacheloggeralso note how kubuntu is coming from canonical but ubuntu from the ubuntu team12:40
apacheloggeror is the ubuntu team a group within canonical12:40
Mamarokapachelogger: *hugs*12:40
* apachelogger is going to throw up now and switch to opensuse12:40
* Mamarok goes to Golem telling them how stupid they are12:41
Mamarokapachelogger: comment sent12:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: got it :)13:16
jussiyay for dolphin freezes...13:18
* jussi updates13:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: anyways, im now following what kate does, on the fly decompression13:19
apacheloggeropenfate is like brainstorm completely useless -.-13:21
shadeslayerbtw ubiquity is now awesome! it installs and asks for your details side by side13:23
* 52AACAD66 is away: Zurzeit abwesend13:45
* 52AACAD66 is back.14:07
shadeslayerdoes it work? :D14:11
sheytanHey guys14:12
sheytanif ive got ubuntu, can i compile kde from trunk?14:13
sheytani mean, when i install dev packages, will it not install the whole KDE? :D14:13
Mamarok52AACAD66: please disable your away messages14:15
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shadeslayersheytan: sort of, id say install normal ubuntu + some dev packages > compile kdesupport with cmakekde > compile rest of the stuff14:17
shadeslayersee techbase, i compiled KDE trunk last night14:17
sheytanok, thanks ;)14:17
sheytanI don't have time to play with slack to compile KDE :D14:17
sheytanit take too much time14:17
apacheloggersheytan: of course it does!!!14:18
shadeslayerhmm.. im not getting any backtraces.. :S14:18
sheytanDo we have a lucid backport of the current rekonq?14:29
apacheloggerMamarok: thanks for commenting14:39
Mamarokapachelogger: well, I hope it helps, we should actually try to get hold of the author of that article, this is the secnod time he gets it wrong14:40
Mamarokdon't know if they actually read comments14:40
Mamarokapachelogger: we could target the author of the article directly: jt@golem.de14:41
Mamarokif they get it wrong again, that's certainly something we should do14:42
apacheloggerAFAIK they tend to at times14:42
apacheloggernot sure why since their comments are just as crappy as heise's14:42
apacheloggerand obviously the news aint much better14:43
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JontheEchidnableh, the virtuoso backport for lucid broke nepomuk \o/15:01
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apacheloggerni! ni! ni!15:11
macoapachelogger: have you been knighted?15:22
apacheloggermaco: by the king of the britons himself! ;)15:24
ScottKMamarok: I got all depressed about the state of Kwin in 4.5 and forgot about your amarok issue.  What was the missing package again?15:24
ScottKapachelogger: I'm currently concocting a plan where we drop back to kwin from 4.4, update kdedpim to 4.4.6, and release two weeks late so we can have 4.5.2 for the rest and then the story has a happy ending.15:26
* ScottK didn't test the whole older version of kwin idea yet though. That's the most uncertain bit.15:26
macowhats wrong with the rest of 4.5.1 that needs to wait til 4.5.2?15:26
macoeverything that's not kwin seems pretty nice15:27
macothough... while we're picking on kwin...15:27
macowhen i switch from netbook to desktop UI and from air-for-netbook to air, itd be really nice if it added titlebars and buttons to the windows instead of just resizing them small and leaving them without buttons15:28
macoonly *new* windows get buttons15:28
NightroseScottK: i'm sitting here with martin if he can help with anything15:28
Nightrosewrt kwin15:28
ScottKmaco: That's not kwin.  That's agateau's work.15:31
ScottK(I'm pretty sure)15:31
macoi figured window borders = kwin. whatd agateau do to it?15:32
ScottKActually I'm not sure.15:32
ScottKThe menubar stuff affects that too.15:32
ScottKI'd ask him, in any case, he can tell you.15:33
ompaulsomeone might want to look at that and update it (drive by bug reports don't you hate them ;-) ) http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu15:37
mgraesslin_ScottK: it does not sound like a good idea to drop kwin to 4.4 - you might very easily break Plasma15:39
ScottKmgraesslin_: I expect it won't work, but I find 4.5 a regression on all the hardware I actually own.15:40
mgraesslin_so let's try to fix it15:40
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ScottKYour solution of just blacklisting hardware is no solution in my book.  Yes it lets the systems run, but less well than they did with 4.4.15:41
mgraesslinthere are other solutions15:41
mgraesslinwe have to try to find the real solution15:42
ScottKOK.  I'm open to working on it.15:42
ScottKapachelogger: I just pushed a missing patch in bzr to get kdeedu to build on armel.  Unfortunately it now FTBFS.  Would you please find a minion to fix it (I'm far too depressed).15:42
apacheloggerScottK: as I understand it dropping to kwin 4.4 would only be a temprorary solution anyway? so we could just use blacklisting as intermediate fix and then get a proper solution with 4.5.2?15:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^15:43
* mgraesslin is looking for the bugreport - there are some ideas15:43
apacheloggerScottK: we are low on minions these days15:43
ScottKapachelogger: We'd have to delay the release for htat.15:43
* apachelogger thinks of it as releasing on-original-time instead of with-regression15:44
mgraesslinScottK: the regression might be what's listed in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241402#c4215:45
ubottuKDE bug 241402 in compositing "kwin freezes when changing related settings in systemsettings while compositing is active" [Normal,New]15:45
ScottKmgraesslin: I have seen that as part of the problem.15:45
mgraesslinso if you revert it, does it work?15:45
nixternali just witnessed that bug report actually...on intel *gasp*15:46
mgraesslinor does LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 kwin --replace & fix the problem15:46
ScottKmgraesslin: Here are the bugs I've filed (with hardware specifics) on Launchpad.  If it would be helpful to have any of these on bugs.kde.org, I'll send them there too: Bug 630632 Bug 630580 Bug 630530 Bug 628930.15:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 630632 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) "Kwin compositing fail on maverick" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63063215:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 630580 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) "No compositing with kwin (and doesn't work well if enabled)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63058015:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 630530 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) "Fails to work at all with Kwin compositing in Maverick" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63053015:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 628930 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) "Desktop effects not active by default" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62893015:46
ScottKLet me switch to a system that has that problem and see.15:47
mgraesslinfor me it's very difficult to do anything about it as the only Intel system I have access to for development is not showing the problem15:47
ScottKI didn't actually test reverting yet.  That will take some time to put together15:47
nixternalI also note that with compositing enabled, and using Chrome to view Google Reader, if there are a lot of unread feeds, when I go to the folder with the feeds, it has a messed up view until you scroll down/up. then it clears everything up15:48
ScottKnixternal: What graphics hardware?15:48
nixternalintel of course15:48
nixternal00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)15:49
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=0&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 015:49
* JontheEchidna slaps ubottu15:49
nigelbwho triggered ubottu :)15:49
ScottKmgraesslin: I just replicated that freeze on my netbook.  Now I'll try it with LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 kwin --replace15:50
apacheloggernigelb: nixternal did15:52
* nigelb kicks ubottu 15:54
mgraesslinbtw the only real fix will be to have Intel drivers not saying that they support things they do not support. Maybe you have better internal contacts to get these things fixed15:55
ScottKmgraesslin: That was interesting.  As soon as I restarted kwin in indirect, compositing was enabled.  trying to change effects settings resulted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/488789/15:55
ScottKThe changed did take effect though.  It looked like the crash was as it was starting.15:56
mgraesslinyeah we get about 10 such crashes per week15:56
ScottKCrash and restart is better than a frozen desktop.15:57
mgraesslinthat looks like the issue of Intel not being able to handle two Gl Contexts in short time15:57
mgraesslinScottK: if you revert that patch, you have to disable blur by default15:58
mgraesslinand we have to patch the lanczos filter15:58
mgraesslinwe did that change to direct rendering, because of the brokeness before15:59
ScottKIs there something that can be done about the Intel/two Gl context problem?  Slow it down?15:59
mgraesslinif I were able to reproduce it....15:59
ScottKIf only apachelogger would send you his netbook.  His is the same as mine.16:00
ScottKHe's close enough you might actually get it.16:00
macooooh that indirect=1 thing made mine stop flickering on show-all-the-windows mode16:01
mgraesslinthe solution would be to not load blur and lanczos if we are in direct rendering16:01
ScottKmaco: Yours is intel too, right?16:01
mgraesslinI just checked our api and we do not expose it :-(16:02
macoeverything i own is intel. i dont trust ati and nvidia to not do stupid things like drop support16:02
mgraesslinbut it's something I wanted to have for 4.6 anyway16:02
ScottKmgraesslin: OK.  So what can we do then?16:02
mgraesslinas I am just at a sprint I have a look on it right now16:03
nixternalI am glad this GL shit makes sense to someone. I think I just pulled out the most hair ever looking at it. I will leave this stuff to the super nerds, *cough* mgraesslin *cough* :p16:03
nigelbI don't trust Intel enough to work :/16:04
macowhen i get home i can try using kwin on my other laptops too and see how a 945 does (i dont think that was on your list, ScottK?)16:04
* maco blinks 16:04
macowhy does this window have a titlebar?16:04
nigelbRunning Debian because anything newer than Karmic doesn't work on this @#$$##$^ :/16:04
ScottKmaco: The netbook is 945.16:04
ScottKSo is my laptop and one of the desktops.16:05
macooh ok. i have 945, 965, and whatevers on a atom n45016:05
nixternalIntel has always worked for me, never once have I had an issue, never once have I had to use some piece of shit proprietary driver, never once did I not have a projector not work when giving a presentation, and never once did I have to open some stupid nvidia app and click this or that 20 times, reboot 4 times, and then click some more just to get a 640x480 presentation resolution on a high definition projector. </case>16:05
nixternalbut...KDE 4.5.1 is working flawlessly on my lappy with an nvidia gpu :p16:06
maconixternal: one of my laptops stopped speaking vga recently :(  the 965 wouldnt talk to the projector at SELF16:06
apacheloggerScottK, mgraesslin: I can send if desired, I could also deliver it personally and then visit Nightrose ;)16:06
nigelbnixternal: now is once ;)16:06
macoOH OH OH16:06
nixternal\o/  ^o^  o(  /o\16:07
ScottKnixternal: Yes, but we know about you and proprietary software.16:07
nixternalit's fun to stay at the...Y M C A16:07
macoi requested that Okular be the PDF viewer installed on the laptops at OLF for people giving presentations from pdf slides, and they said yes :)16:07
mgraesslinwstephenson already offered me access to a Notebook16:07
nigelbnixternal: hahahaha16:07
macobecause okular's little circle thing on the corner showing how far through your slides you are is awesome16:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: whut16:07
shadeslayeri dont understand a word16:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: hm?16:07
shadeslayersomething about kwin16:08
shadeslayeryou and Scott were having a discussion16:08
apacheloggershadeslayer: kwin is broken and I am offering to send around netbooks for testing :P16:08
ScottKshadeslayer: Look at kdeedu in bzr.  Update the package with that, test build and then once it FTBFS, fix that.16:08
shadeslayeroh... id like one :D16:08
apacheloggernot to india!!! :P16:08
ScottKshadeslayer: The kwin discussion is a separate one.16:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: ill pay for shipping :P16:08
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah, kdeedu is FTBFS because ScottK did not QA a patch16:08
shadeslayerohk .. can fix that16:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: and now you are the lucky guy who is going to fix it and win eternal gratitude16:09
ScottKshadeslayer: I'll sponsor it one you've fixed it.16:09
nixternaljeesh, just throw ScottK under the bus there apachelogger :p16:09
nigelbapachelogger: think of the possiblities - a vacaaaation in India!16:09
ScottK + gratitude and stuff.16:09
shadeslayerScottK: sure :)16:09
shadeslayeri was free anyways.. watching House :P16:09
ScottKnixternal: He hides that the real issue was my mistake believing him when he said it was ready for upload, he just lacked the bandwidth to do it.16:10
apacheloggerI did not say it was ready :P16:10
apacheloggerScottK: when was that patch removed?16:11
apacheloggercause I didnt see it last I checked bzr log16:11
ScottKapachelogger: 4.5.0b -> 4.5.1 and it's not fixed upstream.16:11
ScottKMaybe it never made it into bzr.16:11
apacheloggerScottK: that does not appear in bzr16:11
ScottKSomeone forgot bzr add.16:11
apacheloggeryeah, that would explain it16:11
shadeslayerIIRC isnt the qreal patch applied upstream?16:12
ScottKshadeslayer: Not for 4.5.1 it's not.16:12
ScottKIt may have been after.16:12
shadeslayerand it FTBFS's in genral right? not specifically for ARM16:13
* apachelogger has too many open windows16:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: usrc:kdeedu16:13
apacheloggeruse the force16:14
apacheloggeroh not uploade16:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: malinformed URL ....16:14
ScottKshadeslayer: Yes.16:14
* shadeslayer has Neon16:14
ScottKIt's specially FTBFS on armel in the archive.  The test build I did overnight failed on i386.16:14
* mgraesslin is just compiling a possible patch16:18
shadeslayermgraesslin: for edu ?16:18
mgraesslinfor kwin16:19
ScottKshadeslayer: He's an upstream kwin developer.  Kdeedu is all yours.16:19
shadeslayerohh :P16:20
shadeslayerwhats the problem in kwin? 16:20
mgraesslinshadeslayer: you do not read planetkde, do you?16:20
shadeslayermgraesslin: ive been out of touch for the past 2-3 days16:21
shadeslayerlikewise for xkcd as well....16:21
mgraesslinScottK: possible patch http://pastebin.com/mPgKiEb316:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: i made planetkde :P16:23
shadeslayersort of16:23
shadeslayer( read adjams entry )16:23
mgraesslinit compiles and compositing still works with nvidia16:23
ScottKmgraesslin: I'll give it a try.  It will take me a while.16:28
apacheloggershadeslayer: I do not follow... Riddell made planetkde pretty much :P16:32
apacheloggerhence it is using pyth0rn software IIRC ;)16:32
shadeslayerapachelogger: hahaha.. i meant look at adjams post16:33
apacheloggerwhat post where?16:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://adjamblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/sucking-weekends/16:33
apacheloggeryou are the sucking? :O16:34
shadeslayeryeah i get that response16:34
apacheloggeror were you one of the mind masturbat0rs16:34
shadeslayerfrom #kde-devel ...16:34
shadeslayerthe latter16:34
shadeslayerthe txt.gz problem :P16:34
apacheloggeradjams saw that?16:34
shadeslayeri think yes16:35
apacheloggerthe person who said it does that a lot ^^16:35
apacheloggersame thing when you go ask something with a kubuntu flag in your hand ;)16:35
shadeslayerheh.. 16:35
shadeslayerill be off for a while, kdeedu building16:36
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1171877 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/ (UpdaterWindow.cpp UpdaterWindow.h) Return to the updater view when errors occur16:37
* apachelogger makes a gitorious project16:37
apacheloggerif someone wants to try it 16:38
JontheEchidnaneat, I know some people have been wanting that ^^16:39
mgraesslinScottK: I also attached the patch to the bug report for "cloud testing"17:00
ScottKmgraesslin: While I'm waiting for kdebase-workspace to compile, it would help a lot if I could get a list of the capabilities Intel is misreporting (or some idea how to figure it out).  Canonical does have people that can talk to Intel if I can tell them what needs to be communicated.17:01
mgraesslinthe list is rather short: we need framebuffer objects and shaders17:02
mgraesslinand in inderict rendering mode the unsupported (impossible) extensions should be removed17:02
mgraesslinthat's nothing I can provide as that's something only the driver developers can know17:02
mgraesslinScottK: if they need a reference: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173556#c4117:15
ubottuKDE bug 173556 in compositing "Shader support not detected on various systems" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]17:15
mgraesslinthat's how NVIDIA does it17:15
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I think I am going to release that as 1.017:19
sheytanapachelogger is this new kmail icon in tray? :D17:37
sheytanwhat is it for? ;D17:38
apacheloggerfor sekrit things :P17:38
apacheloggerthat is the message-indicator plasmoid actually17:38
sheytanOoh :D17:38
sheytanhope kmail will have such icon  :D17:39
* ScottK considers adding a "Where were you when LP was closed" comment to Benjamin Mako Hill's blog.17:42
apacheloggerScottK: that was in the past, no one cares about that now17:43
* ScottK has plenty of grumpiness to spread around today.17:44
apacheloggerme too :D17:44
apacheloggerbut that is no news :D17:44
* apachelogger wonders if it is rekonq that messes up cookies or if his cookie settings are broken17:44
ScottKapachelogger: I think maybe we ought to generalize the kubuntu-firefox-installer into kubuntu-browser-that-doesnt-suck-installer and have chromium for an option too.17:46
apacheloggerlet me quickly envision a UI for that17:46
apacheloggeryah, entirely possible17:46
apacheloggeroh, I do have no inkscape, how sad17:46
* apachelogger uses googe draw thing instead17:47
* sheytan is going to test pim beta317:47
* ScottK prods at shadeslayer over kdeedu17:47
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apacheloggerthat almost killedmy hand now17:50
apacheloggerwhat a horrible thing to use17:50
apacheloggeralso rekonq fails it17:50
apacheloggerevery second draw operation it fails to paint the drawing area for some reason17:51
apacheloggerScottK: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot20.png17:51
apacheloggeralternatively one could have gigantic green accept icons next to each browser and have individual install operations17:51
ScottKNicely reinforces the need for the change though.17:51
apacheloggerwhich probably makes more sense since the user only will want one (hopefully)17:52
ScottKYeah.  That would work.17:52
sheytanapachelogger gigantic icons aren't sexy. Trust me :P17:54
apacheloggerthis is about ease of use not sex17:55
apacheloggerif I wanted sex I would draw a butterfly as background17:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: ping!!18:00
apacheloggerScottK: I still think we should just ship firefox by default18:01
apacheloggerthat was my favored solution all along18:01
ScottKIt sort of sucks too, IMO.18:02
sheytanapachelogger when somethings looks bad it isn't easy to use. Not for me :P18:03
apacheloggerScottK: it at least renders properly and is one of those that most website creators actually try to work in18:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: does your rekonq loose cookies?18:03
shadeslayerScottK: it sems to build fine18:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: no..18:04
shadeslayerbut mine is a bit outdated18:04
apacheloggerI just reset my cookiejar and yet it looses cookies18:04
shadeslayerlike 12 hours outdated18:04
sheytanapachelogger will this work full screen like the ff installer?18:04
apacheloggerI am seeing this longer18:04
apacheloggermuch longer18:04
shadeslayerno more commits i see18:05
shadeslayerScottK: want build log?18:05
apacheloggerthe launchpad issue I was ranting about which turned out to be a rekonq problem was also related to cookies..18:05
shadeslayerits fully built without issues18:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: maybe, dunno18:05
apacheloggerit will be the ff installer just with more options for that matter18:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: also this is rekonq with kde svn18:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: any steps to reproduce your issue?18:08
shadeslayerScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/488833/18:08
shadeslayermight take a while to load... 5 MB build log18:08
apacheloggerbug 250298 \o/18:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250298 in linux (Ubuntu) "Problem booting Ubuntu Hardy Heron LiveCD on HP nx9010" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25029818:10
apacheloggerkde bug 25029818:11
ubottuKDE bug 250298 in general "Rekonq looses cookies " [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25029818:11
* apachelogger never reported that much bugs against one product on bko18:11
apachelogger...and I use do to be in a relationship with amarok...18:11
apacheloggersheytan: feel free to drop me a mockup of sexy design btw18:12
sheytanapachelogger well, i'll  try ;)18:12
shadeslayer\o/ rekonq frooze up trying to open that bug18:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: i hope you backtraced that :P18:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: it was just a freeze, it opens now :D18:13
apacheloggerlike in it continued to work?18:14
shadeslayerfroze up for like 5 seconds...18:14
apacheloggersilly crap18:14
apacheloggerdoes do that loads of times here come to think of it18:15
apacheloggermostly when I am on hardcore javascript foo18:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw when i login to gmail > close rekonq > open rekonq and go to gmail, it works18:15
* apachelogger actually wanted to blog18:15
apacheloggerbut since rekonq does not let me18:15
apacheloggerkubotu_: yo18:15
* shadeslayer hugs kubotu_18:16
* shadeslayer hugs jussi18:16
kubotu_re apachelogger :)18:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: cookies are persistent across rekonq sessions, most likely because of kio_http being persistent18:16
apacheloggerso gmail works for me too as long as I do not log out18:16
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apacheloggerwordpress however fails immediately18:16
shadeslayerlemme try18:16
apacheloggerwhich now prevents me from blogging18:17
apacheloggerhold on18:17
apacheloggerblogilo to the rescue18:17
shadeslayeryes :P18:17
MamarokScottK: sorry, was afk, it is not requiring a MySQL package as a hard dependency, no problem for KDE users as those have it installed  by default, only causes problems for non-KDE users18:17
MamarokIIRC it is mysql-server-core18:17
* shadeslayer doesnt remember his wp username18:18
apacheloggermine is torchwood18:18
shadeslayerapparently mine is shadeslayer118:19
shadeslayerwho knew... :P18:19
apacheloggerwhy 1?18:19
apacheloggerare you coming in multiple iterations?18:19
apacheloggerwhen will we get the upgrade?18:19
apacheloggerdo we have to pay for it?18:19
shadeslayerbecause shadeslayer.wp wasnt available ;D18:19
apacheloggerhow long do we get security updates for shadeslayer1?18:20
shadeslayerthere will only be one version.. shadeslayer1 :P18:20
shadeslayerkubotu: stay!18:20
* apachelogger wanted shadeslayer4 with shadeslayershell and zeitshade18:21
shadeslayerzeitshade? :P18:21
apacheloggerthose users18:21
apacheloggernot even saying thank you when I fix a bug in less than 2 hours18:21
apacheloggerincluding build time that is18:21
MamarokScottK: actually, it is libmysqlclient16, which in turn should drag in more MySQL packages18:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: works for me18:23
Mamaroknamely mysql-common18:23
* shadeslayer should really blog18:23
apacheloggerMamarok: amarok depends on libmysqlclient16 (>= 5.1.21-1)18:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw theres a updated version of shadeslayer, shadeslayer90 on skype18:25
shadeslayeryou might want that18:25
apacheloggeron skype?18:25
apacheloggertalking about skype18:25
apacheloggerI wanted to do something fancy with skype18:25
shadeslayerwp seems to work for me18:25
apacheloggerbut eventually forgot about it18:25
* apachelogger is wondering when JT will get rid of gdebi18:26
shadeslayeryep.. i even closed rekonq and started it again, and it works18:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: your on rekonq git?18:26
* shadeslayer is also thinking of buying a VPS18:27
apacheloggershadeslayer: yus18:28
shadeslayerworks for me18:29
shadeslayerBUT... i have outdated qt... im just updating now18:29
shadeslayerand im on KDE svn... 18:30
shadeslayerapachelogger: look at favicon of brainstorm.ubuntu18:32
shadeslayerdrupal favicon :P18:32
apacheloggeryou broke it18:34
sheytanapachelogger where kubuntu-firefox-installer stores its data?18:35
sheytanllike images18:35
sheytannvm, i found it ;P18:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: nah.. it should show kubuntu icon.. drupal broke it18:37
timhi, on ubuntu maverick, how can i install the pluginconfigpageinterface.h header? it used to be part of the kdesdk-dev package ...18:38
apacheloggerI wonder if other browsers do show the ubuntu cion18:38
shadeslayerthey wont18:38
shadeslayerhttp://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/favicon.ico <<18:38
apacheloggerhi tim18:38
apacheloggertim: what does that header do?18:38
apachelogger!find pluginconfigpageinterface.h18:38
ubottuFile pluginconfigpageinterface.h found in kdesdk-dev18:39
apachelogger!find pluginconfigpageinterface.h maverick18:39
ubottuPackage/file pluginconfigpageinterface.h does not exist in maverick18:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: silly18:39
timapachelogger, it defines the plugin interface for kate18:39
timi'm trying to install a kate plugin18:39
apacheloggerthat might have moved to kdelibs or maybe kdevplatform 18:40
timapachelogger, but the package database doesn't find it ... also packages.ubuntu.com doesn't18:40
apacheloggerlet me have a look18:41
apacheloggertim: someone thought it is a good idea to kill the dev package18:42
apacheloggerdebian it seems18:42
timapachelogger, without providing the content in some other package?18:43
apacheloggerit is listed as not-installed with comment "#devstuff"18:43
apacheloggerlex79: pingy18:43
apacheloggerlex79: since you merged that, did you look into that more in detail?18:43
lex79which paclage?18:44
shadeslayerapachelogger: dude im not getting backtraces!!! in kde SVN18:44
apacheloggerlex79: kdesdk(-dev)18:44
apacheloggerwell, you will need a dbg package most obviously :P18:45
apacheloggershadeslayer: or do you have a handcrafted build?18:45
shadeslayerno like.. not even one line :P18:45
lex79what's the problem?18:45
apacheloggerin that case you would need to build with debug enabled18:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: used cmakekde18:45
shadeslayerthat and one more thing..18:45
apacheloggerlex79: since r72 it is gone (merged away one could say ;))18:45
apacheloggerlex79: problem is that it contained for example the headers that are necessary to build 3rd party kate plugins18:45
lex79Remove kdesdk-dev. It is not used and we aren't actually handling the libraries as we should.18:47
lex79by [ Sune Vuorela ]18:47
lex79maybe Debian doesn't need it18:48
lex79do we use kdesdk-dev?18:48
apacheloggertim wants to18:48
apacheloggerit is not like we are packaging for us, is it? :P18:48
lex79well, we can readd it if we want18:49
apacheloggerlex79: well, we could create likate(-dev) and upstream that to debian too18:49
lex79likate-dev? what's mean likate? lol18:50
apacheloggerlibkate :P18:50
lex79oh ok18:50
apacheloggerlex79: libkateinterfaces actually18:51
lex79-dev ?18:51
apacheloggerand that18:51
apacheloggerlibkateinterfaces<whateversoversionthathas> && libkateinterfaces-dev18:52
apacheloggerseems to be the only shared lib other than usr/lib/libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so.0.0.118:52
apacheloggerin kate anyway18:52
timapachelogger, lex79, it seems, that debian doesn't provide this header at all ... before adding it, maybe there is a way to generate from the kdesdk package?18:52
apacheloggeralso from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdesdk/kate/plugins/externaltools/CMakeLists.txt?revision=853859&view=markup I gather it is the lib plugins need to link against18:52
lex79I think they are in not-installed file18:53
apacheloggerlex79: yep18:53
apacheloggermarked "#devstuff"18:53
sheytanapachelogger http://i.imgur.com/OH1FH.jpg18:53
apacheloggerlex79: are you going to introduce those packages and talk to sune?18:53
sheytanchange text on install button to 'install firefox' when firefox is selected18:53
* apachelogger should be blogging :P18:53
lex79it's easy make the packages and move the files from not-installed18:54
apacheloggershadeslayer: what if we want to add another browser?18:54
lex79apachelogger: but I have no time now, I can do tomorrow18:54
apacheloggersheytan: what if we want to add another browser?18:54
shadeslayersheytan: ^^18:54
apacheloggershadeslayer: sry18:54
shadeslayerno problemo18:54
lex79or this night maybe18:54
apacheloggerlex79: maybe shadeslayer wants to do it ^^18:54
sheytanapachelogger, you make the white background wider :P18:54
apacheloggerlex79: also, we need more minios18:54
sheytanmake it svg and you're home18:54
lex79apachelogger: it's a minion work this18:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: wanna do some library package messing?18:55
shadeslayerno more work for tonight :P18:55
shadeslayertommorow i can do it18:55
apacheloggersheytan: I was more thinkig about space constraints here18:55
apacheloggervertical scrollbars are devil18:55
lex79apachelogger: I think I know how to get involved more minions but I still have to think about it :P18:55
shadeslayerScottK: oh forgot to mention, the symbols file needs updating18:55
sheytanapachelogger well, you will not add 10 browsers, are you? :D18:56
apacheloggerlex79: I shall come visit and bring choclate chip cookies with me if you drag along 5 more minions ^^18:56
apacheloggersheytan: why not?18:56
apacheloggertechnically we are already at 318:56
sheytanIf you don't want to make that image wider then scall it down, change its height :)18:56
apacheloggerfirefox, chromium, konqueror18:56
shadeslayerfirefox is cool and safe.. whatever... lol18:56
apacheloggerI am not even sure those 3 would fit on a netbook in that design18:56
sheytanapachelogger, make the icons smaller, add in one row 3-4 icons, and 2 icons in a column18:57
lex79apachelogger: I read in the log that you make kcm raster :)18:57
apacheloggerlex79: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KCM+Qt+Graphics+System?content=12981718:57
apacheloggerthat is what I wanted to blog about but people keep interrupting :P18:57
sheytanapachelogger that way you will have 6 or 8 browsers18:57
sheytanwant a mock?18:58
apacheloggersheytan: please18:58
* apachelogger needs to go ask seele on a thumbs up on that stuff anyway18:58
sheytanbtw, are we playing windows? :D18:59
lex79apachelogger: why not in desktop effects kcm instead in a new kcm one ?18:59
sheytanwith that browsers :D18:59
apacheloggerlex79: cause upstream doesnt want it18:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: on of the admins of b.u.c fixed favicon18:59
lex79silly upstream18:59
apacheloggerlex79: also it does not really have to do anything with desktop effects18:59
* apachelogger has a word order issue now18:59
lex79in advanced tab it does18:59
apacheloggerlex79: no19:00
apacheloggerthat is other stuff :P19:00
apacheloggerthat is desktop effects19:00
lex79oh right :P19:00
apacheloggerthat setting is about QWidget rendering19:00
shadeslayerbye guys .. off to sleep19:00
lex79yeah yeah19:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: cool, can you now fix up kate foo so that tim can build his kate plugin? :P19:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: nini19:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: can fix tommorow :)19:01
shadeslayercya till tmmrw then19:01
apacheloggertim: as soon as someone stops making up excuses for not fixing it you should get a new dev package for kate plugins ;)19:01
timapachelogger, great!19:02
ScottKshadeslayer: Is kdeedu fixed?19:03
ScottKMamarok: apachelogger is correct.  amarok on Lucid already depends on libmysqlclient16, so that's not it.19:04
ScottKBad shadeslayer.  Didn't push his changes.19:05
Mamarokwell, the error is that non-KDE users don't have any mysql installed after installing Amarok, what else than a dependency issue would cause that19:06
apacheloggerScottK: I got the impression it built just like that for him19:06
Mamarokthe 2.3.1 package in the backports PPA is working fine, just not the 2.3.0 one19:06
* ScottK updates the pbuilder and tries again.19:06
apacheloggerMamarok, ScottK: I do not think it is the lack of mysql itself is it, I mean, Amarok is supposed to have the daemon embedded, no?19:07
ScottKMamarok: Which PPA?19:07
Mamarokapachelogger: embedded provided you actually have mysql installed19:07
Mamarokapachelogger: witout the libmysqlclient16 package it can't build a collection19:07
ScottKSpeaking of PPAs, whoever is dealing with the backports PPA, you'll want to update quassel there since 0.6.1 doesn't deal with Qt 4.7 well.19:08
Mamarokand all users I helped so far didn't have any of the requred MySQLK packages isntalled19:08
apacheloggerScottK: Sput is working on 0.6.2 which will work with Qt 4.719:08
ScottKapachelogger: Yep.  That's the one that should go in the PPA.19:08
Sputapachelogger: 0.6.2 is tagged19:08
Sputand tarballed19:08
apacheloggerI see19:09
apacheloggerI am blogging19:09
apacheloggerfor an hour already ... :P19:09
ScottKSo someone should put that in the ppa19:11
sheytanapachelogger http://i.imgur.com/pZXT1.jpg19:12
sheytanofcourse it's a fase mockup, really fast ;P19:12
sheytanso the quality sucks19:12
ScottKMamarok: I'm going to diff the packaging between the two.19:13
apacheloggeropinions on http://i.imgur.com/pZXT1.jpg ?19:14
smarterapachelogger: how would you end up on this screen?19:15
Mamarokapachelogger: why do you have two identical lines?19:15
apacheloggerkmenu -> apps -> intarwebs -> Install Browser That Does Not Suck19:15
apacheloggerMamarok: the are just identical in that mock19:15
apacheloggerimagine there is firefox, chromium, opera, konqueror, arora...19:16
smarterapachelogger: What's the usecase? The guy who know what web browser he wants can just install it using muon/software center/whatever19:16
smarterThe guy who doesn't is still clueless19:16
apacheloggersmarter: scott suggested that we provide more browsers to select that match "browsers that do not suck" 19:17
ScottKSince clearly we can't manage to ship one.19:19
smarterStill, this just add confusion, I can see the point of the firefox installer because of the brand recognition, but if you can't handle kpackagekit, you probably can't handle a web browser selection screen either19:23
lex79ScottK: do we need quassel 0.7 in backport ppa?19:24
ScottKlex79: 0.6.2 would be better.19:24
ScottKMamarok: Does libamarokcore.so exist in 2.3.0 or was it new in 2.3.1? (we don't have one in our 2.3.0 package)19:25
lex79uhm where's 0.6.2? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/+changelog19:25
MamarokScottK: hm, I don't remember when the refactoring was exactly, Nightrose, do you?19:26
ScottKMamarok: The mysql related depends for the package in lucid and the one in the backports PPA are identical.19:28
apacheloggerwho can review a blog post for me?19:29
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ScottKDepends on how grumpy you want it to sound.  Today I excel at grumpy.19:29
lex79ScottK: are you sure 0.6.2 is out?19:29
ScottKlex79: Sput just said it was.19:30
lex79Sput: where's 0.6.2?19:30
ScottKSput: ^^^ packaging victim <<<<< helper19:30
apacheloggerScottK: not grumpy at all :P19:30
apacheloggerno grumpy topic it is19:30
* ScottK is probably useless then.19:30
Sputlex79: http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.6.2.tar.bz219:30
lex79Sput: thanks19:30
apacheloggerMamarok: do you have time to quickly look at a blog post?19:30
apacheloggerif that works19:31
* Mamarok checks19:32
Mamarokapachelogger: "performance reasons on Identi.ca I thought" comma after identi.a19:33
Mamarokapachelogger: "variable has lowest priority it is still " comma after priority19:34
Mamarokapachelogger: and I would reoprder this sentence: "was some talk on identi.ca about using..."19:36
Mamarokelse it could be misunderstood19:36
apacheloggeryeah, there is something fishy about it19:36
apacheloggerMamarok: otherwise coherent enough for publishing?19:36
Mamarokyep, looks good19:36
apacheloggerMamarok: thanks19:37
Mamarokapachelogger: de nada :)19:37
MamarokI love blog posts like this, short and to the point :)19:38
ScottKMamarok: Here are the new packages pulled in by the PPA amarok: libdbusmenu-glib1 libindicate-qt0 libindicate4 libkdecore5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkfile4 libkio5 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libkparts4 libkutils4  libnepomuk4 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libqtwebkit4 libsolid4 libthreadweaver419:41
ScottKAny suggestions which one we want?19:41
Mamaroklibpulse? why that?19:41
ScottKNo idea.19:42
ScottKAs you can see, it's quite a list and nothing mysql related, so I'm a bit confused about what's needed.19:42
Mamarokmost of those don't make much sense to me19:42
ScottKI know that the PPA one has dbusmenu support that the release one doesn't.19:43
Mamarokwell, as I said, the non-KDE users of Lucid simply don't get libmysqlclient16 and mysql-common19:43
Mamarokso maybe the problem is with the libmysqlclient16 package?19:43
ScottKMamarok: Not sure.  I installed amarok in a minimal chroot and got both those with it.19:44
Mamarokthen I don't know, all I know is that there is no database when installed without KDE19:44
Sputthat was quick lex79, thanks :)19:45
lex79Sput: no problem ;)19:45
Sputalso, google alerts is amazingly quick sometimes :D19:45
ScottKMamarok: Next time you find one of these people missing libmysqlclient16, have them do "aptitude why-not libmysqlclient16" and see if it says a reason for it not to be installed.19:45
Mamarokwell, the newsstuff is needed to install new scripts19:45
MamarokScottK: yes, I will do that19:46
Mamarokthere certainly will be others19:46
ScottKIf we can figure out why, then maybe we can fix it.19:46
MamarokI start to think the problem is with the libmysqlclient6 package, not with the Amarok one19:47
ScottKCould be.19:47
bulldog98apachelogger: are you thinking about including this kcm (qt graphicssystem) into an PPA?20:06
Sputupstream it!20:13
CIA-116[libqapt] gmartres * 1171940 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (9 files in 4 dirs) API BREAK: renamed the downloadProgress signal to globalDownloadProgress, added a packageDownloadProgress(const QString &name, int percentage) signal.20:19
CIA-116[muon] gmartres * 1171942 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (muon/MainWindow.cpp updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp) LibQApt API break: downloadProgress -> globalDownloadProgress20:29
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ScottKmaco: I put mgraesslin's patch in my PPA if you could give it a try.23:24
* Mamarok sighs at giovanni_re on the users ML23:25
Mamarokhe spends 20 minutes on a mail but pretends not to have time to file a bug report23:25
ScottKIt's OK.  We don't read them anyway.23:26
DaijoubuHello, i created a DSL connection in network manager but it doesn't trigger (dials).I selected the auto connect but even after restart it doesn't dial.23:54
Daijoubucan someone tell me how to trigger the DSL connection in Kubuntu like in Gnome where when i create the DSL connectiona nd select auto connect after i clsoe the window the connection is triggered 23:55
Daijoubuor is this a 10.10 beta bug?23:55

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