[00:00] the 2.3.1 package in the PPA works fine, so usually we ask those people to upgrade [00:00] ScottK: so before I start investigating moar deeply, I'd like to know if you're using a pristine Qt or one that has been modified in that regard :) either way, providing a patch for kubuntu that adapts to the old behavior should be easy, *if* it's that issue (and not some other thing breaking) [00:00] I already reported this when Lucid was released BTW... [00:00] .... [00:00] Sput: OK I can check. We do have patches, just no idea if it affects that. [00:01] ScottK: specifically it's Qt commit e6ac1739 that caused the behavior change [00:03] Mamarok: Is there an "original" bug you've been marking newer reports as a duplicate? [00:03] ScottK: I have always closed those reported to bugzilla as downstream [00:03] so no major bug I can give you, sorry [00:04] didn't check in Launchpad [00:04] OK. [00:06] Sput: Any patches we had would be at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/qt/ubuntu/files in debian/patches, but I can't seem to reach it right now. [00:06] [muon] jmthomas * 1171730 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Share a bit more code in MuonMainWindow [00:10] ScottK: thanks. I'll be off for the night soon, but I'd appreciate you pinging me if you figure something out. I have access to a kubuntu user tomorrow which would allow me debugging that issue hopefully [00:10] (can't reach lp either) [00:12] ScottK: worst case I'll provide a patch disabling the workaround and making it work correctly unless all hell breaks loose :) [00:15] I think my next blog post is Kubuntu Maverick + Intel graphics = Fail [00:16] ScottK: make that s/^.*\+ // [00:30] ScottK: thats already been documented alot in bugs.launchpad :P [00:30] find something new :) [00:36] [muon] jmthomas * 1171739 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) A bit more sharing [00:36] Need to figure out how to blacklist the login effects for Intel to start. [00:36] oh hey, it works [00:36] (CIA) [00:37] they fix nvidia and break intel.. ingenious :) [00:38] shadeslayer: Intel works. It just doesn't work very well with KDE 4.5 Kwin. [00:39] hmm [00:39] kwin is too heavy on intel? :P [00:40] It is now. [00:40] It's been great up through 4.4. [00:40] intel drivers don't properly report their capabilites, and now kwin uses functionality that intel improperly reports as supporting [00:40] (framebuffer based shaders and the like) [00:42] JontheEchidna: Yes and there is no coordination between the two and we are left holding the bag. [00:46] Looks like lucid will be the terminal release for my laptop. [00:47] http://imgur.com/FIdOO <- new in muon trunk [00:55] [muon] jmthomas * 1171746 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp Only listen for jobs started by us [01:03] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1171747 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (7 files in 2 dirs) Add Pretty Includes for all public headers [01:09] ScottK: mgraesslin was sitting next to me all day. you should've heard him curse. [01:14] Sput: At adding lots of new crap that breaks user's systems? [01:14] Sput: Where were you? [01:14] ScottK: some local KDE hackfest [01:14] I see. [01:15] with Nightrose, lemma, Torch and some others [01:15] Karli too [01:15] [muon] jmthomas * 1171749 * (22 files in 6 dirs) Use new pretty includes in LibQApt [01:19] [muon] jmthomas * 1171750 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files in 2 dirs) More usage of Pretty Includes that I forgot [01:32] [muon] jmthomas * 1171756 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Add the package origin to the TechnicalDetailsTab [01:41] JontheEchidna: you rock! I really appreciate it that you spend some quality time in kfn :) [01:41] :) [02:02] So did we drop a patch or did upstream introduce a new bug in 4.5.1 kdeedu? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54970126/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdeedu_4:4.5.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [04:10] Is there a good partitioning tool for qt4? [05:12] Apparently 3 desktops, 3 netbooks, and a laptop aren't enough to have one system that works right with Maverick (Kwin 4.5 + Intel = endless fail). === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [06:58] FYI, it looks like the answer to my kdeedu question is we dropped a patch we shouldn't have. [06:59] (test building a fix now) === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [09:02] shadeslayer: so I looked, but what do I see? [09:03] other than that you are not obeying surrounding code formatting [09:04] ScottK: I love me a good docbook fail [09:12] ha! [09:12] shadeslayer: from what i gather from the sparse surroudning of that patch in lack of motivation to open the file ... you are doing bogus things [09:12] see [09:13] the ifs above correct the mime to something proper [09:13] there are specific mimetypes for compressed tars and specific mimetypes for compressed postscripts... [09:13] you however changed the mime to text/plain which is simply wrong [09:13] because it is compressed text/plain [09:14] so rekonq tries to open plain text and falls over compression [09:15] Hi, who knows about kdepim/akonadi? [09:18] francisco_t: morning, #akonadi knows a lot about that stuff ;) [09:18] Do you know any bug about duplicates "personal contacts" in kaddressbook/akonadi in maverik beta? (fresh install) [09:18] nope [09:23] I get two "personal contacts" in kaddressbook (empty), and akonadi have 2 "personal contacts" and 3 "contactos personales" (spanish), repeated?. It's the first boot of kontact. [09:36] meeeh. launchpad still down? [09:36] clean install in english, same problem, two "personal contacs" in kaddressbook and 4 resource in akonadi... [09:36] well bazaar.launchpad.net at lesat [09:38] Sput: here too, there were a few people complaining already in #launchpad [09:40] ok [09:40] I really need to know which patches kubuntu applies to qt-4.7-rc1 [09:40] francisco_t: you really should ask in #akonadi or maybe #kontact [09:41] Sput: that can be arranged for [09:42] apachelogger: thanks... since quassel seems to be broken with kubuntu's 4.7-rc1, and I have a victim for debugging nearby currently :) [09:42] Sput: what happens? [09:42] * yofel didn't upgrade qt yet [09:43] * apachelogger is wondering if starcraft2 is worth its money [09:43] yofel: wordwrap is broken, and it looks like I am applying a workaround that I need to apply to the 4.7 branch of Qt (I'm using that), but somehow don't need to apply on kubuntu's rc1 [09:43] apachelogger: it totally is, but it'll destroy your social life [09:43] oh that ^^ [09:43] I do not have no social life [09:43] Sput: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/patches/ [09:44] the thingies listed in the series file get applied [09:44] everything with a kubuntu_ prefix is from us everything else from debian and there partially from qt-copy I suppose [09:45] ok [09:45] mmmpf. [09:46] doesn't look suspicious [09:46] so now I need to figure out why quassel thinks it runs on Qt 4.6 [09:48] apachelogger: are you using 4.7-rc1? is your wordwrap broken too? [09:49] did not restart quassel yet [09:49] Sput: where would I see if wordwrap is broken? [09:49] apachelogger: all words are broken past their first character [09:50] looks pretty normal to me here [09:50] huh. [09:50] and I assume you're using quassel-0.7-rc too? [09:50] apachelogger: I do get 'appl\ny' here as word wrap [09:51] v0.8-pre (0.8-pre+2 git-0ec85b3) [09:51] yofel: oh? the other guy here gets a\npply [09:51] 0.7-rc1 [09:51] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot16.png [09:51] this makes things... awkward. [09:51] Sput: still running qt4.7beta [09:51] upgrading qt right now [09:52] yofel: thanks [09:52] apachelogger: meh. and I thought this would be easy. [09:53] :P [09:53] all reports for broken wordwrap came from kubuntu users [09:53] heh [09:53] that is because we have so many :P [09:54] Maybe the bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215945 [09:54] KDE bug 215945 in general "Duplicate akonadi ressources at akonadi first run" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] [09:54] thanks apachelogger [09:57] Sput: here word wrap looks perfectly fine with rc1 [09:57] yofel: ah. as it should be. it being broken with the beta was expected [09:58] apachelogger, yofel: you're using maverick? maybe it's a problem in lucid only [09:58] mav [09:58] mav too [09:58] hmmm [09:58] though I think ScottK reported broken wordwrap too [09:59] hmmm, then I should check the patches in the lucid backport package of qt [09:59] ScottK might have been running a 4.7 beta as well [10:02] looks like all the guys reporting broken wordwrap with 4.7-rc1 are also running lucid + backports... [10:06] lol. and running quassel-0.6.1 which doesn't contain the bugfix for qt 4.7... [10:07] problem solved. [10:07] how? [10:07] do we need to deploy fixness? [10:08] no, but I need to release a 0.6.2 that contains the fix for Qt 4.7 [10:08] ic [10:08] and I need to figure out if ScottK still has the problem with 4.7-rc1 [10:08] here's the gist of it: quassel 0.6 runs well with Qt 4.6, but is broken with Qt 4.7 post beta [10:09] quassel 0.7 runs well with Qt 4.6 and Qt 4.7 post beta, but is broken with Qt 4.7 pre rc1 [10:09] that means users with quassel 0.6 and qt 4.7 post rc1 get in trouble [10:09] and all that thanks to the #$%#@!$@$ Nokians changing behavior/return value of a function mid-cycle [10:10] surely brisbane is at fault! :P [10:10] * apachelogger adores multimediakit [10:10] * Sput makes a 0.6.2 release [10:11] * apachelogger still finds it silly that amarok can filter stupid resources [10:12] I always type in my search and expect it to come up with actual music [10:12] wir fahrn fahrn fahrn auf der autobahn *sing* [10:15] lol [10:19] apachelogger: you always wanted to shoot a bear... right? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba1BqJ4S2M&feature=player_embedded [10:20] * jussi giggles [10:22] I am the flash inside your heart [10:24] oh [10:24] <3 identica [10:38] did anyone upload l10n for 4.5.1 to the ppa? [10:45] had to remove ktorrent this morning and then reinstall it as it wouldn't upgrade properly [11:16] claydoh, Riddell: JFYI, I set the user bhaskarsharma on moderation in the kubuntu-users ML. He is not using KDE and only bashing about it. [11:16] and we should maybe just remind people that suggesting to change desktop is not a solution when people ask for help [11:16] There are too many folks who don't even run KDE, no idea what they are doing in that ML [11:26] hm [11:27] I wonder why suse's funambol 8 got a soverison and ruphy's funambol 9 snapshot does not [11:35] Mamarok: i agree, switching to gnome isn't a solution. [11:39] mfraz74: the users are on this mailing list because they use Kubuntu, so suggesting to switch to Gnome is just not acceptable. [11:40] I wonder what would happen if somebody would go to the ubuntu-users list and tell people to switch to KDE... [11:40] Mamarok: exactly [11:40] Mamarok: only good things, obviously. [11:42] Sput: oh please try, I would love to see the flameware ;) [11:42] lol [11:43] hm [11:43] you know [11:43] that would be just the right thing for a boring sunday afternoon [11:58] * apachelogger shouts at funambol [12:03] ScottK: ping? [12:34] oh [12:34] ScottK: love your blog post [12:39] "Canonical hat zusätzlich die Browseralternative Rekonq beigelegt, die standardmäßig eine Webkit-Engine mitbringt." [12:39] fsck.ext4 [12:40] Mamarok: they just made me cry again [12:40] alternative? wasn't that the default? o.O (or is that for gnome o.O?) [12:40] also note how kubuntu is coming from canonical but ubuntu from the ubuntu team [12:40] or is the ubuntu team a group within canonical [12:40] apachelogger: *hugs* [12:40] * apachelogger is going to throw up now and switch to opensuse [12:41] * Mamarok goes to Golem telling them how stupid they are [12:47] apachelogger: comment sent [13:16] apachelogger: got it :) [13:18] yay for dolphin freezes... [13:18] * jussi updates [13:19] apachelogger: anyways, im now following what kate does, on the fly decompression [13:21] openfate is like brainstorm completely useless -.- [13:23] btw ubiquity is now awesome! it installs and asks for your details side by side [13:45] * 52AACAD66 is away: Zurzeit abwesend [14:07] * 52AACAD66 is back. [14:10] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot17.png [14:11] nice [14:11] does it work? :D [14:12] Hey guys [14:13] if ive got ubuntu, can i compile kde from trunk? [14:13] i mean, when i install dev packages, will it not install the whole KDE? :D [14:15] 52AACAD66: please disable your away messages === 52AACAD66 is now known as ximion_ [14:17] sheytan: sort of, id say install normal ubuntu + some dev packages > compile kdesupport with cmakekde > compile rest of the stuff [14:17] see techbase, i compiled KDE trunk last night [14:17] ok, thanks ;) [14:17] I don't have time to play with slack to compile KDE :D [14:17] it take too much time [14:18] sheytan: of course it does!!! [14:18] hmm.. im not getting any backtraces.. :S [14:29] Do we have a lucid backport of the current rekonq? [14:39] Mamarok: thanks for commenting [14:40] apachelogger: well, I hope it helps, we should actually try to get hold of the author of that article, this is the secnod time he gets it wrong [14:40] don't know if they actually read comments [14:41] apachelogger: we could target the author of the article directly: jt@golem.de [14:42] if they get it wrong again, that's certainly something we should do [14:42] AFAIK they tend to at times [14:42] not sure why since their comments are just as crappy as heise's [14:43] and obviously the news aint much better === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [15:01] bleh, the virtuoso backport for lucid broke nepomuk \o/ === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [15:11] ni-pomuk [15:11] ni! ni! ni! [15:11] :D [15:22] apachelogger: have you been knighted? [15:24] maco: by the king of the britons himself! ;) [15:24] Mamarok: I got all depressed about the state of Kwin in 4.5 and forgot about your amarok issue. What was the missing package again? [15:26] apachelogger: I'm currently concocting a plan where we drop back to kwin from 4.4, update kdedpim to 4.4.6, and release two weeks late so we can have 4.5.2 for the rest and then the story has a happy ending. [15:26] * ScottK didn't test the whole older version of kwin idea yet though. That's the most uncertain bit. [15:26] whats wrong with the rest of 4.5.1 that needs to wait til 4.5.2? [15:27] everything that's not kwin seems pretty nice [15:27] though... while we're picking on kwin... [15:28] when i switch from netbook to desktop UI and from air-for-netbook to air, itd be really nice if it added titlebars and buttons to the windows instead of just resizing them small and leaving them without buttons [15:28] only *new* windows get buttons [15:28] ScottK: i'm sitting here with martin if he can help with anything [15:28] wrt kwin [15:31] maco: That's not kwin. That's agateau's work. [15:31] (I'm pretty sure) [15:31] oh? [15:32] i figured window borders = kwin. whatd agateau do to it? [15:32] Actually I'm not sure. [15:32] The menubar stuff affects that too. [15:33] I'd ask him, in any case, he can tell you. [15:33] ok [15:37] someone might want to look at that and update it (drive by bug reports don't you hate them ;-) ) http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu [15:39] ScottK: it does not sound like a good idea to drop kwin to 4.4 - you might very easily break Plasma [15:40] mgraesslin_: I expect it won't work, but I find 4.5 a regression on all the hardware I actually own. [15:40] so let's try to fix it === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [15:41] Your solution of just blacklisting hardware is no solution in my book. Yes it lets the systems run, but less well than they did with 4.4. [15:41] there are other solutions [15:42] we have to try to find the real solution [15:42] OK. I'm open to working on it. [15:42] apachelogger: I just pushed a missing patch in bzr to get kdeedu to build on armel. Unfortunately it now FTBFS. Would you please find a minion to fix it (I'm far too depressed). [15:42] ScottK: as I understand it dropping to kwin 4.4 would only be a temprorary solution anyway? so we could just use blacklisting as intermediate fix and then get a proper solution with 4.5.2? [15:43] shadeslayer: ^ [15:43] * mgraesslin is looking for the bugreport - there are some ideas [15:43] ScottK: we are low on minions these days [15:43] apachelogger: We'd have to delay the release for htat. [15:44] * apachelogger thinks of it as releasing on-original-time instead of with-regression [15:44] Right. [15:45] ScottK: the regression might be what's listed in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241402#c42 [15:45] KDE bug 241402 in compositing "kwin freezes when changing related settings in systemsettings while compositing is active" [Normal,New] [15:45] mgraesslin: I have seen that as part of the problem. [15:45] so if you revert it, does it work? [15:46] i just witnessed that bug report actually...on intel *gasp* [15:46] or does LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 kwin --replace & fix the problem [15:46] mgraesslin: Here are the bugs I've filed (with hardware specifics) on Launchpad. If it would be helpful to have any of these on bugs.kde.org, I'll send them there too: Bug 630632 Bug 630580 Bug 630530 Bug 628930. [15:46] Launchpad bug 630632 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) "Kwin compositing fail on maverick" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630632 [15:46] Launchpad bug 630580 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) "No compositing with kwin (and doesn't work well if enabled)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630580 [15:46] Launchpad bug 630530 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) "Fails to work at all with Kwin compositing in Maverick" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630530 [15:46] Launchpad bug 628930 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) "Desktop effects not active by default" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628930 [15:47] Let me switch to a system that has that problem and see. [15:47] for me it's very difficult to do anything about it as the only Intel system I have access to for development is not showing the problem [15:47] I didn't actually test reverting yet. That will take some time to put together [15:48] I also note that with compositing enabled, and using Chrome to view Google Reader, if there are a lot of unread feeds, when I go to the folder with the feeds, it has a messed up view until you scroll down/up. then it clears everything up [15:48] nixternal: What graphics hardware? [15:48] intel of course [15:48] Which? [15:49] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) [15:49] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=0&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 0 [15:49] * JontheEchidna slaps ubottu [15:49] who triggered ubottu :) [15:50] mgraesslin: I just replicated that freeze on my netbook. Now I'll try it with LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 kwin --replace [15:52] nigelb: nixternal did [15:54] * nigelb kicks ubottu [15:54] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot18.png [15:55] btw the only real fix will be to have Intel drivers not saying that they support things they do not support. Maybe you have better internal contacts to get these things fixed [15:55] mgraesslin: That was interesting. As soon as I restarted kwin in indirect, compositing was enabled. trying to change effects settings resulted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/488789/ [15:56] The changed did take effect though. It looked like the crash was as it was starting. [15:56] yeah we get about 10 such crashes per week [15:57] OK. [15:57] Crash and restart is better than a frozen desktop. [15:57] that looks like the issue of Intel not being able to handle two Gl Contexts in short time [15:58] ScottK: if you revert that patch, you have to disable blur by default [15:58] and we have to patch the lanczos filter [15:58] Sigh. [15:59] we did that change to direct rendering, because of the brokeness before [15:59] Is there something that can be done about the Intel/two Gl context problem? Slow it down? [15:59] if I were able to reproduce it.... [16:00] If only apachelogger would send you his netbook. His is the same as mine. [16:00] He's close enough you might actually get it. [16:01] oooh that indirect=1 thing made mine stop flickering on show-all-the-windows mode [16:01] the solution would be to not load blur and lanczos if we are in direct rendering [16:01] maco: Yours is intel too, right? [16:02] I just checked our api and we do not expose it :-( [16:02] everything i own is intel. i dont trust ati and nvidia to not do stupid things like drop support [16:02] Heh. [16:02] but it's something I wanted to have for 4.6 anyway [16:02] mgraesslin: OK. So what can we do then? [16:03] as I am just at a sprint I have a look on it right now [16:03] Thanks. [16:03] I am glad this GL shit makes sense to someone. I think I just pulled out the most hair ever looking at it. I will leave this stuff to the super nerds, *cough* mgraesslin *cough* :p [16:04] I don't trust Intel enough to work :/ [16:04] when i get home i can try using kwin on my other laptops too and see how a 945 does (i dont think that was on your list, ScottK?) [16:04] * maco blinks [16:04] why does this window have a titlebar? [16:04] Running Debian because anything newer than Karmic doesn't work on this @#$$##$^ :/ [16:04] maco: The netbook is 945. [16:05] So is my laptop and one of the desktops. [16:05] oh ok. i have 945, 965, and whatevers on a atom n450 [16:05] Intel has always worked for me, never once have I had an issue, never once have I had to use some piece of shit proprietary driver, never once did I not have a projector not work when giving a presentation, and never once did I have to open some stupid nvidia app and click this or that 20 times, reboot 4 times, and then click some more just to get a 640x480 presentation resolution on a high definition projector. [16:06] but...KDE 4.5.1 is working flawlessly on my lappy with an nvidia gpu :p [16:06] nixternal: one of my laptops stopped speaking vga recently :( the 965 wouldnt talk to the projector at SELF [16:06] ScottK, mgraesslin: I can send if desired, I could also deliver it personally and then visit Nightrose ;) [16:06] nixternal: now is once ;) [16:06] OH OH OH [16:07] \o/ ^o^ o( /o\ [16:07] nixternal: Yes, but we know about you and proprietary software. [16:07] it's fun to stay at the...Y M C A [16:07] i requested that Okular be the PDF viewer installed on the laptops at OLF for people giving presentations from pdf slides, and they said yes :) [16:07] whut [16:07] wstephenson already offered me access to a Notebook [16:07] nixternal: hahahaha [16:07] because okular's little circle thing on the corner showing how far through your slides you are is awesome [16:07] apachelogger: whut [16:07] i dont understand a word [16:07] shadeslayer: hm? [16:08] something about kwin [16:08] you and Scott were having a discussion [16:08] shadeslayer: kwin is broken and I am offering to send around netbooks for testing :P [16:08] shadeslayer: Look at kdeedu in bzr. Update the package with that, test build and then once it FTBFS, fix that. [16:08] oh... id like one :D [16:08] not to india!!! :P [16:08] shadeslayer: The kwin discussion is a separate one. [16:08] apachelogger: ill pay for shipping :P [16:08] shadeslayer: yeah, kdeedu is FTBFS because ScottK did not QA a patch [16:09] ohk .. can fix that [16:09] shadeslayer: and now you are the lucky guy who is going to fix it and win eternal gratitude [16:09] \o/ [16:09] shadeslayer: I'll sponsor it one you've fixed it. [16:09] m [16:09] jeesh, just throw ScottK under the bus there apachelogger :p [16:09] apachelogger: think of the possiblities - a vacaaaation in India! [16:09] + gratitude and stuff. [16:09] ScottK: sure :) [16:09] Thanks. [16:09] i was free anyways.. watching House :P [16:10] nixternal: He hides that the real issue was my mistake believing him when he said it was ready for upload, he just lacked the bandwidth to do it. [16:10] I did not say it was ready :P [16:10] anyhow [16:11] ScottK: when was that patch removed? [16:11] cause I didnt see it last I checked bzr log [16:11] apachelogger: 4.5.0b -> 4.5.1 and it's not fixed upstream. [16:11] Maybe it never made it into bzr. [16:11] ScottK: that does not appear in bzr [16:11] Someone forgot bzr add. [16:11] yeah, that would explain it [16:12] IIRC isnt the qreal patch applied upstream? [16:12] shadeslayer: Not for 4.5.1 it's not. [16:12] It may have been after. [16:13] and it FTBFS's in genral right? not specifically for ARM [16:13] * apachelogger has too many open windows [16:13] shadeslayer: usrc:kdeedu [16:14] use the force [16:14] oh not uploade [16:14] apachelogger: malinformed URL .... [16:14] shadeslayer: Yes. [16:14] ^^ [16:14] * shadeslayer has Neon [16:14] It's specially FTBFS on armel in the archive. The test build I did overnight failed on i386. [16:15] ok [16:18] * mgraesslin is just compiling a possible patch [16:18] mgraesslin: for edu ? [16:19] for kwin [16:19] shadeslayer: He's an upstream kwin developer. Kdeedu is all yours. [16:20] ohh :P [16:20] whats the problem in kwin? [16:20] shadeslayer: you do not read planetkde, do you? [16:21] mgraesslin: ive been out of touch for the past 2-3 days [16:21] likewise for xkcd as well.... [16:22] ScottK: possible patch http://pastebin.com/mPgKiEb3 [16:23] apachelogger: i made planetkde :P [16:23] sort of [16:23] ( read adjams entry ) [16:23] it compiles and compositing still works with nvidia [16:28] mgraesslin: I'll give it a try. It will take me a while. [16:32] shadeslayer: I do not follow... Riddell made planetkde pretty much :P [16:32] hence it is using pyth0rn software IIRC ;) [16:33] apachelogger: hahaha.. i meant look at adjams post [16:33] what post where? [16:33] apachelogger: http://adjamblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/sucking-weekends/ [16:34] oh [16:34] ... [16:34] you are the sucking? :O [16:34] yeah i get that response [16:34] s/get/got [16:34] or were you one of the mind masturbat0rs [16:34] from #kde-devel ... [16:34] ah [16:34] the latter [16:34] the txt.gz problem :P [16:34] adjams saw that? [16:35] i think yes [16:35] well [16:35] the person who said it does that a lot ^^ [16:35] same thing when you go ask something with a kubuntu flag in your hand ;) [16:35] heh.. [16:36] ill be off for a while, kdeedu building [16:37] [muon] jmthomas * 1171877 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/ (UpdaterWindow.cpp UpdaterWindow.h) Return to the updater view when errors occur [16:37] * apachelogger makes a gitorious project [16:38] http://gitorious.org/kcm-qt-graphicssystem/kcm-qt-graphicssystem [16:38] if someone wants to try it [16:38] bbiab [16:39] neat, I know some people have been wanting that ^^ [17:00] ScottK: I also attached the patch to the bug report for "cloud testing" [17:01] mgraesslin: While I'm waiting for kdebase-workspace to compile, it would help a lot if I could get a list of the capabilities Intel is misreporting (or some idea how to figure it out). Canonical does have people that can talk to Intel if I can tell them what needs to be communicated. [17:02] the list is rather short: we need framebuffer objects and shaders [17:02] and in inderict rendering mode the unsupported (impossible) extensions should be removed [17:02] that's nothing I can provide as that's something only the driver developers can know [17:06] OK. [17:15]