| bdmurray | crimsun_: as a developer you are member anyway so its redundant | 01:39 |
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| stlsaint | zeroseven0183: you in austin? | 02:04 |
| stlsaint | hehe, get it | 02:05 |
| stlsaint | (lame i know) long day for me :P | 02:05 |
| zeroseven0183 | stlsaint: No. It's just part of my first name | 02:07 |
| zeroseven0183 | ;-) | 02:07 |
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| TheMusicGuy | Someone on #ubuntu thinks I've found a bug that has to do with the latest kernel that may be causing the boot process to fail. | 02:47 |
| TheMusicGuy | He directed me here. | 02:47 |
| yofel | TheMusicGuy: could you give a short overview over your issue? | 02:53 |
| TheMusicGuy | I just upgraded to the latest kernel. When I went to restart, I booted as usual, but during the boot process I got an error message that said the system had given up waiting for the root device, then it sent me to an (intramfs) prompt. No drives were mounted. | 02:55 |
| TheMusicGuy | I'm trying to find a way to get the exact text of the error. | 02:55 |
| TheMusicGuy | It isn't dumped to /var/log/messages because it occurs before the root filesystem is even mounted. | 02:55 |
| yofel | you could take a photo of the screen when it happens. I have to go to bed so can't help you anymore, if nobody else can give you any advice, file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux' stating the kernel version that's broken and attach the screenshot | 02:57 |
| lifeless | 'dmesg' | 02:57 |
| yofel | lifeless: that won't help either as that's the current kernel log | 02:58 |
| lifeless | yofel: yes, but in early userspace thats the log to look at | 02:58 |
| TheMusicGuy | I tried that from the initramfs prompt, but the error didn't seem to be listed | 02:58 |
| lifeless | TheMusicGuy: there isn't necessarily an error | 02:58 |
| TheMusicGuy | well, the message wasn't listed | 02:59 |
| lifeless | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot | 03:01 |
| crimsun_ | bdmurray: ok, thanks | 03:01 |
| lifeless | may be useful | 03:01 |
| TheMusicGuy | I'll be back in a minute with more information. | 03:05 |
| TheMusicGuy | Ok, I'm back with slightly more information. | 03:36 |
| TheMusicGuy | When the boot process drops into the busybox terminal, the error is that it cannot find the file /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxx | 03:37 |
| TheMusicGuy | where xxxxxxxx is my root device's UUID. | 03:37 |
| TheMusicGuy | sure enough, /dev/disk doesn't even exist. | 03:37 |
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| TheMusicGuy | However, /dev/sda6 actually does exist, which is where that UUID points. | 03:37 |
| TheMusicGuy | If I change the linux kernel root to "root=/dev/sda6" from the grub boot prompt, I can get the system to start. | 03:38 |
| TheMusicGuy | However, there is an unusually long hang after my USB devices are detected. | 03:40 |
| TheMusicGuy | This is all after updating to the latest kernel. | 03:41 |
| TheMusicGuy | (I mean after upgrading from Linux 2.6.32-22-generic to Linux 2.6.32-24-generic is when this started happening) | 03:48 |
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| trinikrono_ | hello guys is there any mentors availible | 06:42 |
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| vish | trinikrono_: just ask questions here :) | 07:22 |
| trinikrono_ | hey vish | 07:22 |
| vish | o/ | 07:22 |
| trinikrono_ | can you quiz me and see if i am ready to join bugcontrol | 07:22 |
| trinikrono_ | i am wondering how much i need to learn still | 07:23 |
| vish | trinikrono_: hmmm, quiz!!!!!!! :) | 07:24 |
| vish | trinikrono_: BC is not a huge deal ... you just need to know whats on the wiki , and make sure you set the right importances.. lets see, any bugs you've triaged recently? | 07:25 |
| trinikrono_ | vish: lemme find some good ones | 07:26 |
| trinikrono_ | these days i am only finding x bugs and really old ones | 07:26 |
| vish | trinikrono_: right , the X guys are usually around on weekdays.. :) | 07:27 |
| vish | on #u-x | 07:27 |
| trinikrono_ | i was thinking to join the x-swat if they play nice with me lol | 07:28 |
| vish | trinikrono_: so, you got to wait for them to reply, or ask the appropriate question . :) | 07:28 |
| vish | trinikrono_: need not be a swat to triage X bugs. :) | 07:28 |
| trinikrono_ | vish: yes i tend to look for packages to assign | 07:29 |
| trinikrono_ | and most of them end up being x bugs lol | 07:29 |
| vish | trinikrono_: right , have you seen their wiki? | 07:29 |
| trinikrono_ | yes | 07:29 |
| vish | trinikrono_: how they like the bug titles, etc..? | 07:29 |
| trinikrono_ | i am trying | 07:30 |
| vish | trinikrono_: yeah , X triage is not easy. :) but try during weekdays, ask Q there while triaging.. | 07:30 |
| trinikrono_ | okie look at bug 236046 | 07:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 236046 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "checkgmail tray background colour cannot be changed (affects: 27) (heat: 148)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236046 | 07:31 |
| vish | trinikrono_: bug title is [chipset] title | 07:31 |
| * vish looks | 07:31 | |
| trinikrono_ | yes i try to do that | 07:31 |
| trinikrono_ | i am not sure what to do with the patch though | 07:32 |
| trinikrono_ | building patches looks a little tough right now | 07:32 |
| vish | trinikrono_: seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix ? | 07:34 |
| vish | trinikrono_: there is 'testing the fixes' section | 07:34 |
| trinikrono_ | ah | 07:35 |
| trinikrono_ | i was looking at that just now | 07:35 |
| trinikrono_ | i was reading the patches wikipage before | 07:35 |
| vish | trinikrono_: but that is not a requirement for BC though.. | 07:35 |
| trinikrono_ | well i am trying to learn here anyways | 07:35 |
| trinikrono_ | i can show you a xorg bug i am working on | 07:36 |
| trinikrono_ | bug 601441 | 07:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 601441 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i845G] Running Firefox crashes X (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601441 | 07:36 |
| vish | trinikrono_: yeah , did you ask the reporter to check with a new firefox profile? | 07:38 |
| trinikrono_ | well it was a xorg bug | 07:38 |
| vish | trinikrono: might be one of his extensions.. causing the Xorg crash.. | 07:38 |
| trinikrono_ | those i845g chipset people | 07:38 |
| trinikrono_ | get a lot of trouble in lucid | 07:39 |
| trinikrono_ | really? | 07:39 |
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| vish | trinikrono_: i said might be.. :) | 07:39 |
| trinikrono_ | okie | 07:39 |
| trinikrono_ | because at first it was assigned to firefox | 07:40 |
| trinikrono_ | then they said no | 07:40 |
| trinikrono_ | :D | 07:40 |
| vish | trinikrono_: yeah , it need not be a firefox bug , but we need to narrow down whats causing it.. | 07:40 |
| trinikrono_ | so dray told me to start asking people the lspci thing | 07:40 |
| trinikrono_ | to see if it could be x related | 07:40 |
| trinikrono_ | and i found this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes | 07:41 |
| trinikrono_ | so i am afraid to upgrade to lucid lol | 07:41 |
| vish | trinikrono_: just ask reporter to do the apport-collect , which should give enough info for the X folk.. | 07:41 |
| trinikrono_ | i still use jaunty | 07:41 |
| trinikrono_ | yes he did it in the report | 07:42 |
| vish | heh, apport gone crazy! , it still hasnt marked bug incomplete -> new! | 07:43 |
| trinikrono_ | so i can change it back to new for now | 07:43 |
| trinikrono_ | until the x guys need something else from him? | 07:43 |
| trinikrono_ | wait can this be considered triaged? | 07:44 |
| vish | yup.. | 07:44 |
| vish | trinikrono_: but i would ask about the firefox profile too, before marking it new :) | 07:44 |
| trinikrono_ | there is a wikipage that has a nice write up for that? | 07:45 |
| vish | ? | 07:45 |
| trinikrono_ | to tell the user to create a new profile | 07:45 |
| vish | the easiest way to do it , is to shut down firefox, move the .mozilla folder to somewhere else and then open firefox | 07:46 |
| trinikrono_ | :D | 07:47 |
| trinikrono_ | its on the debugging firefox page | 07:47 |
| trinikrono_ | i thought i saw something on that already | 07:47 |
| trinikrono_ | so would you of marked this bug as triaged? | 07:47 |
| trinikrono_ | other than the profile thing | 07:47 |
| vish | not yet.. | 07:47 |
| vish | trinikrono_: the problem with that bug is, the reporter has switched from ubuntu -> xubuntu , so even if we end up fixing the bug we wont know if we fixed it.. | 07:48 |
| trinikrono_ | but doesnt ubuntu and xubuntu use the same xorg drivers? | 07:49 |
| vish | yup.. but reporter claims no problems now.. | 07:50 |
| trinikrono_ | you know i saw something today in a bug report | 07:50 |
| vish | trinikrono_: a few things that would help with that bug is : knowing how someone else can trigger the bug [ without knowing how to trigger the bug its difficult to fix] , 2 - knowing if the reporter can test the fix once we upload it | 07:51 |
| trinikrono_ | that sometimes the kernel causes video problems also | 07:51 |
| trinikrono_ | i thought it was just xorg | 07:51 |
| vish | trinikrono_: so we need to know if the reporter did clean install or is just using a xubuntu session | 07:51 |
| trinikrono_ | yes he said a he installed xubuntu-desktop | 07:52 |
| trinikrono_ | but what i am studying | 07:52 |
| trinikrono_ | if its a known issue in lucid | 07:52 |
| trinikrono_ | should people continue to keep filing reports about it | 07:52 |
| trinikrono_ | with the intel chipsets | 07:53 |
| vish | hmm, wondering if xubuntu uses compiz.. | 07:54 |
| trinikrono_ | hey i just noticed something | 07:55 |
| trinikrono_ | you know the gresse monkey scripts has a response named collect it | 07:55 |
| trinikrono_ | it is not the standard replies wiki page | 07:55 |
| vish | yup | 07:55 |
| vish | oh? | 07:55 |
| trinikrono_ | can i just add it in | 07:56 |
| trinikrono_ | i am not sure what title to put though | 07:56 |
| trinikrono_ | vish: will you look at it? | 07:58 |
| vish | trinikrono_: not sure what you are talking about.. | 07:58 |
| trinikrono_ | this page | 07:59 |
| trinikrono_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses | 07:59 |
| trinikrono_ | does not have this | 07:59 |
| trinikrono_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/488619/ | 07:59 |
| trinikrono_ | which is a response in the launchpad firefox extension | 08:00 |
| trinikrono_ | named collect it | 08:00 |
| vish | trinikrono: ok.. just add it.. ;) | 08:01 |
| vish | if you are wrong we can burn you at the stake ;p | 08:01 |
| micahg | but it shouldn't mention report a problem as that's gone in the stable release now | 08:02 |
| vish | micahg: yeah, i had to locally fix that recently.. | 08:03 |
| vish | heh , after commenting it on a bug.. i went doh! | 08:03 |
| trinikrono_ | well once the reporter answers :D | 08:04 |
| trinikrono_ | i get a lot of dead bugs | 08:04 |
| trinikrono_ | micahg: what title do you think i should use | 08:04 |
| vish | micahg: does xubuntu use compiz? | 08:04 |
| trinikrono_ | general triage response? | 08:04 |
| micahg | vish: I think it can | 08:07 |
| micahg | trinikrono: it should be something like Missing basic package information | 08:08 |
| micahg | trinikrono: the page actually has it multiple times for topics it actually helps with like kernel, sound, and X | 08:08 |
| trinikrono_ | i was going to put "apport collect" | 08:09 |
| trinikrono_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/488623/ | 08:10 |
| trinikrono_ | i took out the report a problem | 08:10 |
| trinikrono_ | if you guys ok it i will save the changes on the wiki | 08:10 |
| vish | trinikrono_: permissions for Launchpad have also changed | 08:11 |
| vish | it now has only two options | 08:12 |
| trinikrono_ | o.o | 08:12 |
| vish | previously it was a 5-6 options.. now, iirc there is change anything and dont allow access | 08:12 |
| trinikrono_ | so i can leave out from additionally ? | 08:14 |
| trinikrono_ | it still needs that phyton package thing right vish | 08:14 |
| vish | dont think so.. | 08:15 |
| vish | when i tried from a live cd , i had to do nothing, just had to select the options | 08:15 |
| trinikrono_ | :D | 08:16 |
| trinikrono_ | so the launchpad scripts needs to update then | 08:16 |
| trinikrono_ | here is a nice safe one | 08:20 |
| vish | trinikrono_: the live cd was a maverick one.. so not sure about the older versions ;) | 08:20 |
| trinikrono_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/488627/ | 08:20 |
| trinikrono_ | well might only be a issue with hardy just now from the looks of things | 08:20 |
| trinikrono_ | my poor jaunty is going to die next month | 08:20 |
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| trinikrono_ | hey if someone has a problem with ps/2 mouse crashing the system | 08:50 |
| trinikrono_ | is that a bug in x or the kernel? | 08:51 |
| trinikrono_ | generally speaking | 08:51 |
| micahg | trinikrono_: generally start at the highest level, so try X first, there should be debugging tips on the X debugging page | 08:51 |
| trinikrono_ | okie thanks micahg | 08:52 |
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| trinikrono_ | will do | 08:52 |
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| ankur | hi , i wanted to know that can we launch apport to report bugs even if the application haven't crashed .How can i report bugs to launchpad using apport which are not crash related? | 12:41 |
| yofel | well... | 12:42 |
| yofel | Usage: ubuntu-bug [options] [symptom|pid|package|program path|.apport/.crash file] | 12:42 |
| yofel | you have a few options to choose from if you want to file a bug about an application, just see 'ubuntu-bug --help | 12:43 |
| yofel | ++***** | 12:43 |
| yofel | meh, need to clean my keyboard :/ | 12:43 |
| yofel | ankur: does that answer your question, or do you need a more specific answer? | 12:47 |
| ankur | yofel, thanks for your help , i was just checking the option | 12:47 |
| ankur | :) | 12:47 |
| ankur | now , when i tried using it for reporting bug for sugar-emulator-0.88 , it said it is not a genuine Ubuntu package . any pointers? | 12:48 |
| yofel | ankur: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy sugar-emulator-0.88' please? | 12:49 |
| ankur | just a second :) | 12:49 |
| ankur | http://paste.ubuntu.com/488719/ | 12:51 |
| ankur | yofel, ^^ | 12:51 |
| yofel | right, we don't support filing bugs about ppa packages at bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ - does the sugar team have a seperate project for bug tracking? | 12:53 |
| ankur | yofel, getting back to you , just checking somethings | 12:56 |
| ankur | :) | 12:56 |
| yofel | sure | 12:56 |
| tbsdy_lives | trying to work out the stacktrace for bug 564773... it doesn't look like the source code lines in the stacktrace sync with the source! | 14:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 564773 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_viewport_set_hadjustment() (affects: 1) (heat: 26)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564773 | 14:23 |
| penguin42 | how do you mean? | 14:26 |
| tbsdy_lives | so when I look at the stacktrace that apport-retrace has done (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44444112/Stacktrace.txt) then the last line points to /build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.0/gtk/gtktextbufferserialize.c:95 | 14:28 |
| tbsdy_lives | in the function start_element_handler | 14:29 |
| tbsdy_lives | I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but when I look at the source for that file, that line is actually in deserialize_value ! | 14:29 |
| penguin42 | is it the same version? | 14:30 |
| tbsdy_lives | should be... let me recheck | 14:30 |
| tbsdy_lives | hold on... off by .1 | 14:30 |
| tbsdy_lives | it's gtk+2.0-2.220.1 | 14:30 |
| penguin42 | tbsdy_lives: Having said that, you could be seeing the result of some compiler inlining/optimisation | 14:31 |
| tbsdy_lives | ah... but would that cause the line-numbers to be off? | 14:32 |
| penguin42 | it can cause quite a few things, like saying you're in one function when you're actually executing code from another function that was inlined, or the fact that optimisation has shared code between a number of source lines | 14:33 |
| tbsdy_lives | ah... in that case, without more info how would one debug that issue? | 14:34 |
| penguin42 | tbsdy_lives: It normally gets you to within a few lines of where it happened; doesn't know that bits of Gnome foo | 14:35 |
| tbsdy_lives | ic... so you need to go down the stacktrace? | 14:35 |
| penguin42 | yeh; I mean if you look at that stack trace, without understanding what start_element_handler is supposed to do I'd guess element_name is supposed to be a string that makes sense but it's shown as "\017" | 14:36 |
| tbsdy_lives | \0 - null ? | 14:37 |
| penguin42 | \0 is null, but \017 is 15 decimal which is most liekly just junk | 14:38 |
| tbsdy_lives | not good... | 14:39 |
| penguin42 | so that says it's likely not start_element_handler's fault, but where it was called from - but how far back the bad data came from is I guess difficult to tell - and it's a shame the tracer hasn't maanaged to find more from libgobject | 14:40 |
| * penguin42 grrrs as his bug won't trigger with debugging turned on | 14:48 | |
| tbsdy_lives | bummer | 14:48 |
| jarlath | I want to report a bug I'm having since upgrading - but I don't know what package to assign it to. It's a USB to Ethernet adaptor that worked with Karmic, but is lifless on Lucid. There used to be a document on packages associated with certain problems, but I can't find it. | 15:26 |
| penguin42 | jarlath: Sounds like a driver bug and thus report it against linux | 15:32 |
| jarlath | Thanks penguin42, I'll do that. | 15:32 |
| penguin42 | does anyone know if ubuntu-bug -u for updates works with -s for symptom - i.e. can I tell someone to do ubuntu-bug -u xxxx -s audio ? | 16:13 |
| vish | does anyone know the main bug for Bug #630671 ? | 16:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 630671 in yelp (Ubuntu) "wtf? (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630671 | 16:16 |
| penguin42 | that almost looks like a missing font or wrong encoding | 16:19 |
| MichealH | vish, Dont worry I have dont the nessecary action(s) | 16:28 |
| MichealH | https://launchpad.net/bugs/630671 | 16:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 630671 in yelp (Ubuntu) "wtf? (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:28 |
| penguin42 | the screenshot on bug 630751 is great | 16:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 630751 in ubuntu "text (and diagrams) garbled (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630751 | 16:29 |
| MichealH | Yeah | 16:30 |
| vish | MichealH: that is a bug in maverick.. there *must* be a main bug.. | 16:31 |
| MichealH | Yeah | 16:31 |
| MichealH | But Its we need more info | 16:31 |
| vish | MichealH: for what? | 16:31 |
| MichealH | vish, To replicate and Get it ready for fixing | 16:32 |
| vish | MichealH: when we know there must be a dupe, no need to waste time.. better use of time is to look for the main bug ;) | 16:32 |
| vish | MichealH: are you triaging again from windows! ;) | 16:32 |
| MichealH | vish, Uhh Im not asking for triage | 16:32 |
| MichealH | BUT IM ON WINDOWS AND LIKE IT! | 16:33 |
| * MichealH gets BSOD | 16:33 | |
| vish | hehe ;) | 16:33 |
| MichealH | :L | 16:33 |
| MichealH | Copuld bug 630751 and the Bug 630751 be duplicates? | 16:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 630751 in ubuntu "text (and diagrams) garbled (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630751 | 16:34 |
| vish | o.0 | 16:34 |
| crimsun_ | penguin42: [RE: apport] not directly, but one certainly can use apport-cli then apport-collect | 16:34 |
| MichealH | Could they be dups? | 16:34 |
| vish | MichealH: how can a bug be a dup of itself ;p | 16:34 |
| MichealH | Uhh | 16:34 |
| MichealH | Ooops | 16:34 |
| crimsun_ | penguin42: it's hinted at in the man page of the latter, but perhaps we could document it more explicitly | 16:34 |
| MichealH | I mean the WTF bug and that one | 16:34 |
| MichealH | vish, ^^ | 16:35 |
| vish | MichealH: no, not the same | 16:35 |
| MichealH | Ahh | 16:35 |
| MichealH | Okay | 16:35 |
| MichealH | Should we still keep the WTF bug Incomplete? | 16:35 |
| penguin42 | crimsun_: So you mean run apport-cli audio and then apport-collect with the bug number to update? | 16:36 |
| penguin42 | is there a package explicitly for assigning test bugs to ? | 16:48 |
| penguin42 | I've got a habit of using hello but I guess the hello maintainer probably doesn't appreciate that | 16:49 |
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| micahg | MichealH: BTW, there was enough info to reproduce that wtf bug, you just had to open yelp | 18:45 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thanks for the gnome-shell fix | 19:05 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: np, it works? | 19:08 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: not sure yet i am working on other things but it does install | 19:08 |
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| micahg | well, that's the easy part, the question is will it launch :) | 19:08 |
| gnomefreak | once i get the damn alias command right i will test it | 19:09 |
| drizzle | hi all | 19:10 |
| drizzle | can someone mark 631011 as wishlist please | 19:10 |
| gnomefreak | bug 631011 | 19:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 631011 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Ambiance (and Radiance) should include status icons for Dropbox (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631011 | 19:11 |
| gnomefreak | got it | 19:11 |
| vish | gnomefreak: its not a light-theme bug.. :D | 19:12 |
| gnomefreak | vish: all i did was mark it please feel free to fix it. | 19:12 |
| * gnomefreak just waiting on a answer about something | 19:13 | |
| vish | yup.. :) | 19:13 |
| drizzle | what is it? | 19:13 |
| gnomefreak | vish: thanks | 19:13 |
| gnomefreak | drizzle: its a bug :) | 19:13 |
| gnomefreak | i closed the window already :( | 19:13 |
| drizzle | i meant what package is it? | 19:13 |
| vish | drizzle: well we can add to ubuntu-mono package, i dont think we will be adding those icons. | 19:13 |
| vish | drizzle: light-theme is just the gtk theme , and has nothing to do with icons.. | 19:14 |
| vish | err, gnome* | 19:14 |
| drizzle | so it is ubuntu-mono? | 19:15 |
| vish | yup.. | 19:16 |
| drizzle | how do we change? | 19:17 |
| vish | drizzle: select the yellow pencil icon | 19:18 |
| vish | drizzle: oh wait! we dont have for downstream task! , select the down arrow | 19:19 |
| vish | then "choose.." , and change.. | 19:19 |
| drizzle | vish | 19:22 |
| drizzle | what is your name in launch? | 19:22 |
| vish | drizzle: why? ;) | 19:22 |
| drizzle | does anyone know vish's name in launchpad? | 19:23 |
| vish | hehe! | 19:23 |
| drizzle | i changed it | 19:25 |
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| vish | "Dear Alan," :) | 19:38 |
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| drizzle | can someone close 552545, the reporter has stated it is fixed | 20:03 |
| vish | bug 552545 | 20:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 552545 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "entering an invalid username creates a loop (affects: 1) (heat: 23)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552545 | 20:04 |
| drizzle | can 549195 be marked as triaged? | 20:05 |
| vish | drizzle: you can close it too , if you are using the lp-gm-scripts use the unknown fix reply | 20:06 |
| vish | bug 549195 | 20:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 549195 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity should give visual feedback that username cannot contains capital letter(s) (affects: 3) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/549195 | 20:06 |
| drizzle | i dont think i have access to close | 20:07 |
| vish | drizzle: everyone has access to invalid .. | 20:08 |
| drizzle | does lp-gm-scripts have chrome plugin? | 20:10 |
| drizzle | also how do i find the dl for it? | 20:10 |
| drizzle | it says not files are associated with it | 20:10 |
| micahg | drizzle: bdmurray was working on a chrome version of the scripts | 20:10 |
| drizzle | how would i do it in firefox? | 20:11 |
| yofel | drizzle: install the package from the scripts ppa | 20:11 |
| yofel | there's a link to it on the top of bugs/responses | 20:11 |
| yofel | *at the top | 20:12 |
| drizzle | thank you yofel | 20:17 |
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| intrader | I have an account in launchpad, trying to report bug, but it wants 'package'; however, the bug is with all packages with UI. | 20:58 |
| Muscovy | intrader: What is the bug? | 20:59 |
| intrader | Performance problems with UI in 10.04 (Reported in forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9782591#post9782591) | 21:01 |
| Muscovy | _If_ I were to give it a package I'd say xorg, but does it let you file the bug package-less? | 21:03 |
| yofel | apport requires packages, but you don't have to give a package on launchpad if you don't know it | 21:05 |
| yofel | there's an "I don't know" option | 21:05 |
| intrader | Muscovy, I thought it would be Xorg also, but it could be kernel. I'm in Find the right package, but nothing fits | 21:06 |
| Muscovy | intrader: Probably pick whichever seems more likely, since the apport info will be useful. | 21:08 |
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| drizzle | i have a question | 21:10 |
| drizzle | i installed a greasemonkey script | 21:10 |
| drizzle | the karma suffix one | 21:10 |
| drizzle | how do i actually execute it? | 21:10 |
| Muscovy | Does it have a .sh prefix? | 21:11 |
| yofel_ | intrader: have you tried another gtk theme? | 21:11 |
| yofel_ | drizzle: er, check in the ffx addons if they're enabled, if yes, it will execute itself when you open a LP page | 21:11 |
| drizzle | .js | 21:11 |
| yofel_ | Muscovy: we talked about the firefox-lp-scripts | 21:11 |
| drizzle | k | 21:11 |
| drizzle | its automatic? | 21:11 |
| Muscovy | Ah. | 21:11 |
| yofel_ | drizzle: if you installed the package from the ppa yes | 21:11 |
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| yofel | better | 21:12 |
| drizzle | it worked | 21:12 |
| drizzle | thank you | 21:12 |
| drizzle | i just needed to reload the page | 21:12 |
| intrader | Muscovy, thanks - I am leaning on 'compiz' - however, the 'effects' are 'none'. | 21:12 |
| drizzle | can someone please mark 631045 as triaged? | 21:12 |
| yofel | intrader: have you tried another theme? what value does gtkperf (you have to install it) give you? | 21:13 |
| charlie-tca | bug 631045 | 21:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 631045 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "unable to print slide selection in OOo Impress (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631045 | 21:13 |
| drizzle | i found an upstream bug for it and verified it personally | 21:14 |
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| intrader | yofel: I have tried other theme. I am installing gtkperf | 21:14 |
| charlie-tca | drizzle: does OO.o consider windows and linux the same for bugs? Not all upstreams do. | 21:15 |
| intrader | yofel, it gives main result of 0.40. There are many tests, should I run? | 21:16 |
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| yofel | yes please | 21:16 |
| yofel | just use test all, takes less than a minute | 21:16 |
| drizzle | i didnt realize that | 21:17 |
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| drizzle | i am unsure | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know OpenOffice enough to say, either. Will have to let someone else look at this one. | 21:17 |
| intrader | yofel, total time of 42.08 - lots of measurements! | 21:18 |
| yofel | hm, I get a value of 39 on my EeePC which isn't very fast. | 21:21 |
| yofel | intrader: add that to the report when you file it, I don't know too much about gtk performance, maybe someone else can tell you more | 21:22 |
| yofel | (and I'm running out of battery here in a few minutes -.-) | 21:22 |
| intrader | yofel, this is Dell Inspiron 8200 (an old machine that runs Windows XP and Windows 7 Ok, and used to run 9.04 Ok) | 21:22 |
| yofel | intrader: you might ask in #ubuntu-x for more debugging help or if you find something helpful on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting | 21:24 |
| intrader | yofel, by OK on 9.04 I have to add, there was no Skype, but the UI was snappy. I suspect that it is not gtk, but Xorg or kernel I will follow up with #ubuntu-x | 21:24 |
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| intrader | yofel, there does not seem to be anybofy in #ubuntu-x. Thanks for your help. I will add the file info to the bug report. | 21:32 |
| yofel | intrader: there are people there, if they're online or not is another question though ;) | 21:32 |
| yofel | and I'm out too, battery empty | 21:33 |
| intrader | yofel, I understand, thanks - when you come back! | 21:36 |
| intrader | If I don't have a package identified, how can I use ubuntu-bug to file a bug report? | 21:48 |
| Muscovy | If you don't have a package chosen, I don't think you can use ubuntu-bug. | 21:52 |
| Muscovy | However, | 21:52 |
| Muscovy | You could use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug?no-redirect | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | bRoas Noites | 21:54 |
| intrader | Muscovy, thanks that is great. I will go there | 21:55 |
| Muscovy | Using ubuntu-bug is recommended for when you do have a package, however. | 21:56 |
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| intrader | All, I have reported a bug #632230. Thanks for your help. I hope the ubuntu triage kicks in favorably. | 22:17 |
| ubot2 | intrader: Error: Bug #632230 not found. | 22:17 |
| intrader | All, sorry its is #631130 | 22:18 |
| intrader | ubot2, that was way fast to find the bug report missing, how did you do that? | 22:19 |
| ubot2 | intrader: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 22:19 |
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| Muscovy | intrader: There's how. ;D | 22:20 |
| intrader | All, how do I write bots for this list? | 22:20 |
| Muscovy | No idea. | 22:20 |
| intrader | ;D | 22:20 |
| Muscovy | You can request them for your channel though. | 22:21 |
| intrader | Muscovy, what is ';D'? | 22:21 |
| Muscovy | A face. | 22:22 |
| intrader | Muscovy, no way ... :) | 22:22 |
| kklimonda | intrader: can you assign you bug to the right package? | 22:29 |
| kklimonda | intrader: you could assign it to either kernel or X yourself and it would get reassigned by developers | 22:30 |
| intrader | kklimonda, I have tried several ways to identify the package, The bug report #631130 had been filed | 22:34 |
| yofel | bug 631130 | 22:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 631130 in ubuntu "In all apps, slow UI since 10.04 install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631130 | 22:34 |
| intrader | yofel, that is it (with the aid of the bot - I have no idea how you all do it) | 22:35 |
| yofel | intrader: 'bug <bugnumber' :P | 22:35 |
| yofel | ubot2 will react to it | 22:35 |
| ubot2 | yofel: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 22:35 |
| yofel | *that* I know XD | 22:36 |
| micahg | intrader: nvidia 96 I think is known to have issues with KMS | 22:36 |
| intrader | micahg, I have the same problems without it. Also without compiz | 22:36 |
| intrader | micahg, what is KMS. You guys are way over my head! and what face is ;D ? | 22:38 |
| micahg | intrader: kernel mode support | 22:38 |
| charlie-tca | AFAIK, nvidia 96 is not in maverick now | 22:39 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: yes it is | 22:40 |
| micahg | !info nvidia-96 maverick | 22:40 |
| intrader | !info nvidia-96 maverick | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | It is not coming up here in hardware drivers, and my nvidia would like to have it | 22:40 |
| yofel | afaik doesn't work though. (doesn't support xserver 1.9 yet I think) | 22:40 |
| yofel | charlie-tca: it was disabled I think | 22:41 |
| micahg | yea, that could be | 22:41 |
| charlie-tca | That is probably right | 22:41 |
| intrader | micahg, I have disabled and enabled it for testing purposes | 22:41 |
| intrader | yofel, what version of Xorg - how do I find out? | 22:42 |
| yofel | lucid uses xserver 1.7 | 22:42 |
| yofel | !info xserver-xorg-core lucid | 22:42 |
| yofel | ubot2: info xserver-xorg-core lucid | 22:43 |
| ubot2 | yofel: xserver-xorg-core (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - core server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.2 (lucid), package size 2352 kB, installed size 4468 kB | 22:43 |
| ubot2 | yofel: xserver-xorg-core (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - core server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.2 (lucid), package size 2352 kB, installed size 4468 kB | 22:43 |
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| yofel | ubot2: info nvidia-96 maverick | 22:43 |
| ubot2 | yofel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. | 22:43 |
| yofel | o.O | 22:43 |
| charlie-tca | heh, broke it. | 22:44 |
| yofel | jpds: ^ | 22:44 |
| intrader | yofel, what is all this? gurus breaking things? | 22:44 |
| yofel | intrader: something like that, yeah ... | 22:44 |
| charlie-tca | intrader: keeps new people from breaking things. | 22:44 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, yofel how dictatorial is that? | 22:46 |
| charlie-tca | I show nvidia-96 version 96.43.18-0ubuntu1 listed in synaptic | 22:46 |
| charlie-tca | intrader: not dictatorial, just keeps us from being surprised when someone else breaks it | 22:46 |
| charlie-tca | yofel: for maverick, that is | 22:47 |
| yofel | right | 22:47 |
| intrader | yofel, charlie-tca: by the way the driver I running is nvidia-96. As I noted, I have the same problems with driver removed. | 22:48 |
| yofel | intrader: removed as in: removed an rebooted? (just making sure) | 22:49 |
| yofel | *and | 22:49 |
| intrader | yofel, removed and rebooted | 22:50 |
| yofel | ok | 22:50 |
| intrader | yofel, charlie-tca, do either of you know what changes regardin UI behavior went into the latest kernel? I have same problems with Suse, Fedora, etc. | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | I do not | 22:52 |
| yofel | define 'latest' - latest would be 2.6.35 (maverick) for me | 22:52 |
| yofel | and no, I'm really not an expert on graphics performance | 22:53 |
| intrader | yofel, you are way ahead of the one used by lucid I suppose. How do I find out which version I am runing? | 22:53 |
| yofel | lucid-updates has linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic, so you should be using that | 22:54 |
| intrader | yofel, how do I find out what my lucid is running? | 22:56 |
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| charlie-tca | intrader: open a terminal and type "uname -a" without quotes | 22:58 |
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| intrader | charlie-tca, yofel, it confirms 2.6.32-24-generic. Thanks - but why 'uname', why not 'version'? | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | because uname works, version doesn't | 23:00 |
| yofel | heh | 23:00 |
| intrader | :) | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | uname is to get the kernel version | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | version could be the version of anything installed or uninstalled | 23:00 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, as if the 'u' in uname meant anything. Unix... | 23:01 |
| yofel | app names don't necessarily need to make sense, if you find out what app 'baobab' is in less than a minute I'll give you a cookie :P | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I do know linux is much more open about letting you find anything about anything, than Windows is in telling you anything | 23:02 |
| intrader | disk usage analyzer (according to google) | 23:03 |
| yofel | you actually made it, have a cookie :D | 23:03 |
| intrader | yofel, Google did it! | 23:03 |
| charlie-tca | and then there is "apropos" | 23:04 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, Windows tries to do security by obscurity. | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | It tries to do everything by obscurity, not just security | 23:05 |
| charlie-tca | if you blur the subject enough, people will accept it | 23:05 |
| charlie-tca | It is kind of like cellphones. How many people on the street know what "3G" is/ | 23:05 |
| intrader | Maybe some spyware. | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | They know the letters mean cellphone reception, but it is really important to have "3G", right? | 23:06 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, by now everybody, what will be next after 4G? | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | What difference does it make what they call it, as long as you are convinced it is important | 23:07 |
| yofel | sure, at least 3G looks better on my cell phone than the antenna symbol :P (then again, I can live very well without UMTS) | 23:07 |
| intrader | yofel, now you are trying to 'outshine' UMTS... | 23:08 |
| yofel | heh | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | They could call it "goofy" and it would be just as important and necessary in peoples minds | 23:09 |
| intrader | yofel, charlie-tca you guys are fun! | 23:09 |
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| charlie-tca | Just saying, the name means little, the results count | 23:10 |
| intrader | yofel, charlie-tca just to show you one annoying problem - click on #ubuntu, let it hover too long, get hand with icon facsimile of the xchat left column; wont' quit. | 23:15 |
| intrader | yofel, charlie-tca not until I hit esc a few times, then the darn icon flies away. GARBAGE! | 23:17 |
| charlie-tca | easy workaround: Don't do that | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | Are you using xchat or xchat-gnome? | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | Is that the only channel it does that with? | 23:19 |
| charlie-tca | I can't seem to make it do that | 23:21 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, you are kidding me, --- all apps do the same thing. Started as noted with install of 9.10, then carried back to 9.04, and now 10.04 | 23:22 |
| charlie-tca | Must be xchat-gnome ? | 23:22 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, I have the same problem with mbbits, or google lists, | 23:23 |
| charlie-tca | weird | 23:23 |
| charlie-tca | Tried a different mouse? | 23:24 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, like if I hoover over 'Applications' I can make it happen, with or trackpoint of touchpad, same thing, with usb, same thing | 23:25 |
| charlie-tca | Mine stays an arrow (pointer) until clicked | 23:25 |
| intrader | charlie-tca, what I suspect, some change in 9.10 was carried forward to 10.04, then back updated to 9.04 | 23:26 |
| charlie-tca | possible | 23:26 |
| maple_leaf | if any canonical staff are monitoring this channel, please contact the webmaster of ubuntu.com and have them fix the 404 http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid | 23:53 |
| yofel | maple_leaf: how did you get there? | 23:54 |
| yofel | can't find that link on http://www.ubuntu.com/support | 23:55 |
| maple_leaf | yofel: System > Help and Support. Click "commercial technical support" | 23:55 |
| yofel | that's a bug in the help documentation then, not the website | 23:56 |
| maple_leaf | I think it's packaged as gnome-user-guide | 23:56 |
| maple_leaf | but it could be easily fixed with a 301 on the site | 23:56 |
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