[01:39] crimsun_: as a developer you are member anyway so its redundant === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [02:04] zeroseven0183: you in austin? [02:05] hehe, get it [02:05] (lame i know) long day for me :P [02:07] stlsaint: No. It's just part of my first name [02:07] ;-) === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [02:47] Someone on #ubuntu thinks I've found a bug that has to do with the latest kernel that may be causing the boot process to fail. [02:47] He directed me here. [02:53] TheMusicGuy: could you give a short overview over your issue? [02:55] I just upgraded to the latest kernel. When I went to restart, I booted as usual, but during the boot process I got an error message that said the system had given up waiting for the root device, then it sent me to an (intramfs) prompt. No drives were mounted. [02:55] I'm trying to find a way to get the exact text of the error. [02:55] It isn't dumped to /var/log/messages because it occurs before the root filesystem is even mounted. [02:57] you could take a photo of the screen when it happens. I have to go to bed so can't help you anymore, if nobody else can give you any advice, file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux' stating the kernel version that's broken and attach the screenshot [02:57] 'dmesg' [02:58] lifeless: that won't help either as that's the current kernel log [02:58] yofel: yes, but in early userspace thats the log to look at [02:58] I tried that from the initramfs prompt, but the error didn't seem to be listed [02:58] TheMusicGuy: there isn't necessarily an error [02:59] well, the message wasn't listed [03:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot [03:01] bdmurray: ok, thanks [03:01] may be useful [03:05] I'll be back in a minute with more information. [03:36] Ok, I'm back with slightly more information. [03:37] When the boot process drops into the busybox terminal, the error is that it cannot find the file /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxx [03:37] where xxxxxxxx is my root device's UUID. [03:37] sure enough, /dev/disk doesn't even exist. === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [03:37] However, /dev/sda6 actually does exist, which is where that UUID points. [03:38] If I change the linux kernel root to "root=/dev/sda6" from the grub boot prompt, I can get the system to start. [03:40] However, there is an unusually long hang after my USB devices are detected. [03:41] This is all after updating to the latest kernel. [03:48] (I mean after upgrading from Linux 2.6.32-22-generic to Linux 2.6.32-24-generic is when this started happening) === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [06:42] hello guys is there any mentors availible === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [07:22] trinikrono_: just ask questions here :) [07:22] hey vish [07:22] o/ [07:22] can you quiz me and see if i am ready to join bugcontrol [07:23] i am wondering how much i need to learn still [07:24] trinikrono_: hmmm, quiz!!!!!!! :) [07:25] trinikrono_: BC is not a huge deal ... you just need to know whats on the wiki , and make sure you set the right importances.. lets see, any bugs you've triaged recently? [07:26] vish: lemme find some good ones [07:26] these days i am only finding x bugs and really old ones [07:27] trinikrono_: right , the X guys are usually around on weekdays.. :) [07:27] on #u-x [07:28] i was thinking to join the x-swat if they play nice with me lol [07:28] trinikrono_: so, you got to wait for them to reply, or ask the appropriate question . :) [07:28] trinikrono_: need not be a swat to triage X bugs. :) [07:29] vish: yes i tend to look for packages to assign [07:29] and most of them end up being x bugs lol [07:29] trinikrono_: right , have you seen their wiki? [07:29] yes [07:29] trinikrono_: how they like the bug titles, etc..? [07:30] i am trying [07:30] trinikrono_: yeah , X triage is not easy. :) but try during weekdays, ask Q there while triaging.. [07:31] okie look at bug 236046 [07:31] Launchpad bug 236046 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "checkgmail tray background colour cannot be changed (affects: 27) (heat: 148)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236046 [07:31] trinikrono_: bug title is [chipset] title [07:31] * vish looks [07:31] yes i try to do that [07:32] i am not sure what to do with the patch though [07:32] building patches looks a little tough right now [07:34] trinikrono_: seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix ? [07:34] trinikrono_: there is 'testing the fixes' section [07:35] ah [07:35] i was looking at that just now [07:35] i was reading the patches wikipage before [07:35] trinikrono_: but that is not a requirement for BC though.. [07:35] well i am trying to learn here anyways [07:36] i can show you a xorg bug i am working on [07:36] bug 601441 [07:36] Launchpad bug 601441 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i845G] Running Firefox crashes X (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601441 [07:38] trinikrono_: yeah , did you ask the reporter to check with a new firefox profile? [07:38] well it was a xorg bug [07:38] trinikrono: might be one of his extensions.. causing the Xorg crash.. [07:38] those i845g chipset people [07:39] get a lot of trouble in lucid [07:39] really? === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [07:39] trinikrono_: i said might be.. :) [07:39] okie [07:40] because at first it was assigned to firefox [07:40] then they said no [07:40] :D [07:40] trinikrono_: yeah , it need not be a firefox bug , but we need to narrow down whats causing it.. [07:40] so dray told me to start asking people the lspci thing [07:40] to see if it could be x related [07:41] and i found this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes [07:41] so i am afraid to upgrade to lucid lol [07:41] trinikrono_: just ask reporter to do the apport-collect , which should give enough info for the X folk.. [07:41] i still use jaunty [07:42] yes he did it in the report [07:43] heh, apport gone crazy! , it still hasnt marked bug incomplete -> new! [07:43] so i can change it back to new for now [07:43] until the x guys need something else from him? [07:44] wait can this be considered triaged? [07:44] yup.. [07:44] trinikrono_: but i would ask about the firefox profile too, before marking it new :) [07:45] there is a wikipage that has a nice write up for that? [07:45] ? [07:45] to tell the user to create a new profile [07:46] the easiest way to do it , is to shut down firefox, move the .mozilla folder to somewhere else and then open firefox [07:47] :D [07:47] its on the debugging firefox page [07:47] i thought i saw something on that already [07:47] so would you of marked this bug as triaged? [07:47] other than the profile thing [07:47] not yet.. [07:48] trinikrono_: the problem with that bug is, the reporter has switched from ubuntu -> xubuntu , so even if we end up fixing the bug we wont know if we fixed it.. [07:49] but doesnt ubuntu and xubuntu use the same xorg drivers? [07:50] yup.. but reporter claims no problems now.. [07:50] you know i saw something today in a bug report [07:51] trinikrono_: a few things that would help with that bug is : knowing how someone else can trigger the bug [ without knowing how to trigger the bug its difficult to fix] , 2 - knowing if the reporter can test the fix once we upload it [07:51] that sometimes the kernel causes video problems also [07:51] i thought it was just xorg [07:51] trinikrono_: so we need to know if the reporter did clean install or is just using a xubuntu session [07:52] yes he said a he installed xubuntu-desktop [07:52] but what i am studying [07:52] if its a known issue in lucid [07:52] should people continue to keep filing reports about it [07:53] with the intel chipsets [07:54] hmm, wondering if xubuntu uses compiz.. [07:55] hey i just noticed something [07:55] you know the gresse monkey scripts has a response named collect it [07:55] it is not the standard replies wiki page [07:55] yup [07:55] oh? [07:56] can i just add it in [07:56] i am not sure what title to put though [07:58] vish: will you look at it? [07:58] trinikrono_: not sure what you are talking about.. [07:59] this page [07:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses [07:59] does not have this [07:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/488619/ [08:00] which is a response in the launchpad firefox extension [08:00] named collect it [08:01] trinikrono: ok.. just add it.. ;) [08:01] if you are wrong we can burn you at the stake ;p [08:02] but it shouldn't mention report a problem as that's gone in the stable release now [08:03] micahg: yeah, i had to locally fix that recently.. [08:03] heh , after commenting it on a bug.. i went doh! [08:04] well once the reporter answers :D [08:04] i get a lot of dead bugs [08:04] micahg: what title do you think i should use [08:04] micahg: does xubuntu use compiz? [08:04] general triage response? [08:07] vish: I think it can [08:08] trinikrono: it should be something like Missing basic package information [08:08] trinikrono: the page actually has it multiple times for topics it actually helps with like kernel, sound, and X [08:09] i was going to put "apport collect" [08:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/488623/ [08:10] i took out the report a problem [08:10] if you guys ok it i will save the changes on the wiki [08:11] trinikrono_: permissions for Launchpad have also changed [08:12] it now has only two options [08:12] o.o [08:12] previously it was a 5-6 options.. now, iirc there is change anything and dont allow access [08:14] so i can leave out from additionally ? [08:14] it still needs that phyton package thing right vish [08:15] dont think so.. [08:15] when i tried from a live cd , i had to do nothing, just had to select the options [08:16] :D [08:16] so the launchpad scripts needs to update then [08:20] here is a nice safe one [08:20] trinikrono_: the live cd was a maverick one.. so not sure about the older versions ;) [08:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/488627/ [08:20] well might only be a issue with hardy just now from the looks of things [08:20] my poor jaunty is going to die next month === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [08:50] hey if someone has a problem with ps/2 mouse crashing the system [08:51] is that a bug in x or the kernel? [08:51] generally speaking [08:51] trinikrono_: generally start at the highest level, so try X first, there should be debugging tips on the X debugging page [08:52] okie thanks micahg === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [08:52] will do === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [12:41] hi , i wanted to know that can we launch apport to report bugs even if the application haven't crashed .How can i report bugs to launchpad using apport which are not crash related? [12:42] well... [12:42] Usage: ubuntu-bug [options] [symptom|pid|package|program path|.apport/.crash file] [12:43] you have a few options to choose from if you want to file a bug about an application, just see 'ubuntu-bug --help [12:43] ++***** [12:43] meh, need to clean my keyboard :/ [12:47] ankur: does that answer your question, or do you need a more specific answer? [12:47] yofel, thanks for your help , i was just checking the option [12:47] :) [12:48] now , when i tried using it for reporting bug for sugar-emulator-0.88 , it said it is not a genuine Ubuntu package . any pointers? [12:49] ankur: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy sugar-emulator-0.88' please? [12:49] just a second :) [12:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/488719/ [12:51] yofel, ^^ [12:53] right, we don't support filing bugs about ppa packages at bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ - does the sugar team have a seperate project for bug tracking? [12:56] yofel, getting back to you , just checking somethings [12:56] :) [12:56] sure [14:23] trying to work out the stacktrace for bug 564773... it doesn't look like the source code lines in the stacktrace sync with the source! [14:23] Launchpad bug 564773 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_viewport_set_hadjustment() (affects: 1) (heat: 26)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564773 [14:26] how do you mean? [14:28] so when I look at the stacktrace that apport-retrace has done (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44444112/Stacktrace.txt) then the last line points to /build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.0/gtk/gtktextbufferserialize.c:95 [14:29] in the function start_element_handler [14:29] I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but when I look at the source for that file, that line is actually in deserialize_value ! [14:30] is it the same version? [14:30] should be... let me recheck [14:30] hold on... off by .1 [14:30] it's gtk+2.0-2.220.1 [14:31] tbsdy_lives: Having said that, you could be seeing the result of some compiler inlining/optimisation [14:32] ah... but would that cause the line-numbers to be off? [14:33] it can cause quite a few things, like saying you're in one function when you're actually executing code from another function that was inlined, or the fact that optimisation has shared code between a number of source lines [14:34] ah... in that case, without more info how would one debug that issue? [14:35] tbsdy_lives: It normally gets you to within a few lines of where it happened; doesn't know that bits of Gnome foo [14:35] ic... so you need to go down the stacktrace? [14:36] yeh; I mean if you look at that stack trace, without understanding what start_element_handler is supposed to do I'd guess element_name is supposed to be a string that makes sense but it's shown as "\017" [14:37] \0 - null ? [14:38] \0 is null, but \017 is 15 decimal which is most liekly just junk [14:39] not good... [14:40] so that says it's likely not start_element_handler's fault, but where it was called from - but how far back the bad data came from is I guess difficult to tell - and it's a shame the tracer hasn't maanaged to find more from libgobject [14:48] * penguin42 grrrs as his bug won't trigger with debugging turned on [14:48] bummer [15:26] I want to report a bug I'm having since upgrading - but I don't know what package to assign it to. It's a USB to Ethernet adaptor that worked with Karmic, but is lifless on Lucid. There used to be a document on packages associated with certain problems, but I can't find it. [15:32] jarlath: Sounds like a driver bug and thus report it against linux [15:32] Thanks penguin42, I'll do that. [16:13] does anyone know if ubuntu-bug -u for updates works with -s for symptom - i.e. can I tell someone to do ubuntu-bug -u xxxx -s audio ? [16:16] does anyone know the main bug for Bug #630671 ? [16:16] Launchpad bug 630671 in yelp (Ubuntu) "wtf? (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630671 [16:19] that almost looks like a missing font or wrong encoding [16:28] vish, Dont worry I have dont the nessecary action(s) [16:28] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630671 [16:28] Launchpad bug 630671 in yelp (Ubuntu) "wtf? (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [16:29] the screenshot on bug 630751 is great [16:29] Launchpad bug 630751 in ubuntu "text (and diagrams) garbled (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630751 [16:30] Yeah [16:31] MichealH: that is a bug in maverick.. there *must* be a main bug.. [16:31] Yeah [16:31] But Its we need more info [16:31] MichealH: for what? [16:32] vish, To replicate and Get it ready for fixing [16:32] MichealH: when we know there must be a dupe, no need to waste time.. better use of time is to look for the main bug ;) [16:32] MichealH: are you triaging again from windows! ;) [16:32] vish, Uhh Im not asking for triage [16:33] BUT IM ON WINDOWS AND LIKE IT! [16:33] * MichealH gets BSOD [16:33] hehe ;) [16:33] :L [16:34] Copuld bug 630751 and the Bug 630751 be duplicates? [16:34] Launchpad bug 630751 in ubuntu "text (and diagrams) garbled (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630751 [16:34] o.0 [16:34] penguin42: [RE: apport] not directly, but one certainly can use apport-cli then apport-collect [16:34] Could they be dups? [16:34] MichealH: how can a bug be a dup of itself ;p [16:34] Uhh [16:34] Ooops [16:34] penguin42: it's hinted at in the man page of the latter, but perhaps we could document it more explicitly [16:34] I mean the WTF bug and that one [16:35] vish, ^^ [16:35] MichealH: no, not the same [16:35] Ahh [16:35] Okay [16:35] Should we still keep the WTF bug Incomplete? [16:36] crimsun_: So you mean run apport-cli audio and then apport-collect with the bug number to update? [16:48] is there a package explicitly for assigning test bugs to ? [16:49] I've got a habit of using hello but I guess the hello maintainer probably doesn't appreciate that === paul__ is now known as Elbrus === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [18:45] MichealH: BTW, there was enough info to reproduce that wtf bug, you just had to open yelp [19:05] micahg: thanks for the gnome-shell fix [19:08] gnomefreak: np, it works? [19:08] micahg: not sure yet i am working on other things but it does install === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [19:08] well, that's the easy part, the question is will it launch :) [19:09] once i get the damn alias command right i will test it [19:10] hi all [19:10] can someone mark 631011 as wishlist please [19:11] bug 631011 [19:11] Launchpad bug 631011 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Ambiance (and Radiance) should include status icons for Dropbox (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631011 [19:11] got it [19:12] gnomefreak: its not a light-theme bug.. :D [19:12] vish: all i did was mark it please feel free to fix it. [19:13] * gnomefreak just waiting on a answer about something [19:13] yup.. :) [19:13] what is it? [19:13] vish: thanks [19:13] drizzle: its a bug :) [19:13] i closed the window already :( [19:13] i meant what package is it? [19:13] drizzle: well we can add to ubuntu-mono package, i dont think we will be adding those icons. [19:14] drizzle: light-theme is just the gtk theme , and has nothing to do with icons.. [19:14] err, gnome* [19:15] so it is ubuntu-mono? [19:16] yup.. [19:17] how do we change? [19:18] drizzle: select the yellow pencil icon [19:19] drizzle: oh wait! we dont have for downstream task! , select the down arrow [19:19] then "choose.." , and change.. [19:22] vish [19:22] what is your name in launch? [19:22] drizzle: why? ;) [19:23] does anyone know vish's name in launchpad? [19:23] hehe! [19:25] i changed it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:38] "Dear Alan," :) === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [20:03] can someone close 552545, the reporter has stated it is fixed [20:04] bug 552545 [20:04] Launchpad bug 552545 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "entering an invalid username creates a loop (affects: 1) (heat: 23)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552545 [20:05] can 549195 be marked as triaged? [20:06] drizzle: you can close it too , if you are using the lp-gm-scripts use the unknown fix reply [20:06] bug 549195 [20:06] Launchpad bug 549195 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity should give visual feedback that username cannot contains capital letter(s) (affects: 3) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/549195 [20:07] i dont think i have access to close [20:08] drizzle: everyone has access to invalid .. [20:10] does lp-gm-scripts have chrome plugin? [20:10] also how do i find the dl for it? [20:10] it says not files are associated with it [20:10] drizzle: bdmurray was working on a chrome version of the scripts [20:11] how would i do it in firefox? [20:11] drizzle: install the package from the scripts ppa [20:11] there's a link to it on the top of bugs/responses [20:12] *at the top [20:17] thank you yofel === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [20:58] I have an account in launchpad, trying to report bug, but it wants 'package'; however, the bug is with all packages with UI. [20:59] intrader: What is the bug? [21:01] Performance problems with UI in 10.04 (Reported in forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9782591#post9782591) [21:03] _If_ I were to give it a package I'd say xorg, but does it let you file the bug package-less? [21:05] apport requires packages, but you don't have to give a package on launchpad if you don't know it [21:05] there's an "I don't know" option [21:06] Muscovy, I thought it would be Xorg also, but it could be kernel. I'm in Find the right package, but nothing fits [21:08] intrader: Probably pick whichever seems more likely, since the apport info will be useful. === locobot_2_2 is now known as locobot_2 [21:10] i have a question [21:10] i installed a greasemonkey script [21:10] the karma suffix one [21:10] how do i actually execute it? [21:11] Does it have a .sh prefix? [21:11] intrader: have you tried another gtk theme? [21:11] drizzle: er, check in the ffx addons if they're enabled, if yes, it will execute itself when you open a LP page [21:11] .js [21:11] Muscovy: we talked about the firefox-lp-scripts [21:11] k [21:11] its automatic? [21:11] Ah. [21:11] drizzle: if you installed the package from the ppa yes === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:12] better [21:12] it worked [21:12] thank you [21:12] i just needed to reload the page [21:12] Muscovy, thanks - I am leaning on 'compiz' - however, the 'effects' are 'none'. [21:12] can someone please mark 631045 as triaged? [21:13] intrader: have you tried another theme? what value does gtkperf (you have to install it) give you? [21:13] bug 631045 [21:13] Launchpad bug 631045 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "unable to print slide selection in OOo Impress (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631045 [21:14] i found an upstream bug for it and verified it personally === jrib1 is now known as jrib [21:14] yofel: I have tried other theme. I am installing gtkperf [21:15] drizzle: does OO.o consider windows and linux the same for bugs? Not all upstreams do. [21:16] yofel, it gives main result of 0.40. There are many tests, should I run? === nhandler1 is now known as nhandler [21:16] yes please [21:16] just use test all, takes less than a minute [21:17] i didnt realize that === nhandler is now known as Guest53292 [21:17] i am unsure [21:17] I don't know OpenOffice enough to say, either. Will have to let someone else look at this one. [21:18] yofel, total time of 42.08 - lots of measurements! [21:21] hm, I get a value of 39 on my EeePC which isn't very fast. [21:22] intrader: add that to the report when you file it, I don't know too much about gtk performance, maybe someone else can tell you more [21:22] (and I'm running out of battery here in a few minutes -.-) [21:22] yofel, this is Dell Inspiron 8200 (an old machine that runs Windows XP and Windows 7 Ok, and used to run 9.04 Ok) [21:24] intrader: you might ask in #ubuntu-x for more debugging help or if you find something helpful on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting [21:24] yofel, by OK on 9.04 I have to add, there was no Skype, but the UI was snappy. I suspect that it is not gtk, but Xorg or kernel I will follow up with #ubuntu-x === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK === Guest53292 is now known as nhandler [21:32] yofel, there does not seem to be anybofy in #ubuntu-x. Thanks for your help. I will add the file info to the bug report. [21:32] intrader: there are people there, if they're online or not is another question though ;) [21:33] and I'm out too, battery empty [21:36] yofel, I understand, thanks - when you come back! [21:48] If I don't have a package identified, how can I use ubuntu-bug to file a bug report? [21:52] If you don't have a package chosen, I don't think you can use ubuntu-bug. [21:52] However, [21:52] You could use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug?no-redirect [21:54] bRoas Noites [21:55] Muscovy, thanks that is great. I will go there [21:56] Using ubuntu-bug is recommended for when you do have a package, however. === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [22:17] All, I have reported a bug #632230. Thanks for your help. I hope the ubuntu triage kicks in favorably. [22:17] intrader: Error: Bug #632230 not found. [22:18] All, sorry its is #631130 [22:19] ubot2, that was way fast to find the bug report missing, how did you do that? [22:19] intrader: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [22:20] intrader: There's how. ;D [22:20] All, how do I write bots for this list? [22:20] No idea. [22:20] ;D [22:21] You can request them for your channel though. [22:21] Muscovy, what is ';D'? [22:22] A face. [22:22] Muscovy, no way ... :) [22:29] intrader: can you assign you bug to the right package? [22:30] intrader: you could assign it to either kernel or X yourself and it would get reassigned by developers [22:34] kklimonda, I have tried several ways to identify the package, The bug report #631130 had been filed [22:34] bug 631130 [22:34] Launchpad bug 631130 in ubuntu "In all apps, slow UI since 10.04 install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631130 [22:35] yofel, that is it (with the aid of the bot - I have no idea how you all do it) [22:35] intrader: 'bug ubot2 will react to it [22:35] yofel: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [22:36] *that* I know XD [22:36] intrader: nvidia 96 I think is known to have issues with KMS [22:36] micahg, I have the same problems without it. Also without compiz [22:38] micahg, what is KMS. You guys are way over my head! and what face is ;D ? [22:38] intrader: kernel mode support [22:39] AFAIK, nvidia 96 is not in maverick now [22:40] charlie-tca: yes it is [22:40] !info nvidia-96 maverick [22:40] !info nvidia-96 maverick [22:40] It is not coming up here in hardware drivers, and my nvidia would like to have it [22:40] afaik doesn't work though. (doesn't support xserver 1.9 yet I think) [22:41] charlie-tca: it was disabled I think [22:41] yea, that could be [22:41] That is probably right [22:41]