| * flan kinda liked having all the apt commands grouped under one utilitiy. | 00:00 | |
| flan | -i | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| humphreybc | Hi everyone | 00:36 |
| Muscovy | Hello. | 00:36 |
| humphreybc | time to see if I can pull a fresh branch and test our installation instructions | 00:36 |
| humphreybc | because I have totally forgotten how to use bzr :P | 00:36 |
| Muscovy | It took me a while to discover a few vital features. | 00:37 |
| Muscovy | Like bzr add. :P | 00:37 |
| humphreybc | godbyk: are you there? how can I check if I have the correct version of latex installed? | 00:37 |
| Muscovy | I think the pkgs/install-pkgs.sh does that. | 00:39 |
| humphreybc | in the branch? | 00:39 |
| humphreybc | okay | 00:39 |
| humphreybc | and we're still working in lp:ubuntu-manual? | 00:39 |
| humphreybc | not lp:ubuntu-manual/maverick or something? | 00:39 |
| Muscovy | Maverick branch is lp:ubuntu-manual. | 00:40 |
| humphreybc | great | 00:40 |
| humphreybc | so it is :D | 00:40 |
| humphreybc | I've got my coffee and last night's pizza ready to be re-heated for lunch | 00:40 |
| humphreybc | some nice music playing, all ready to start working through these 172 pages of text :D | 00:41 |
| humphreybc | hey banshee gapless playback is working all of a sudden | 00:43 |
| humphreybc | mint! | 00:49 |
| humphreybc | took like 10 seconds to branch | 00:49 |
| humphreybc | everything installed except one thing which the script installed :D | 00:49 |
| humphreybc | this is better than I remember :D | 00:49 |
| Muscovy | Just in case you didn't know, manual doesn't compile currently. | 00:49 |
| Muscovy | So if you try, it's probably not your edit. | 00:49 |
| humphreybc | okay | 00:50 |
| humphreybc | cool | 00:50 |
| humphreybc | thanks :) | 00:50 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: yeah, I'm here. | 00:51 |
| humphreybc | sweet | 00:51 |
| humphreybc | i've got the latest branch | 00:52 |
| humphreybc | going to burn through these open bugs firstr | 00:52 |
| godbyk | run "xelatex --version". It should say "XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (TeX Live 2009)". | 00:52 |
| humphreybc | then I'll start making edits for maverick | 00:52 |
| humphreybc | yup, all good | 00:52 |
| Muscovy | Does Maverick have the right version of Tex, anyone know? | 00:53 |
| godbyk | Muscovy: I'm not sure if it does or not. | 00:54 |
| flan | I'm installing it now. | 00:54 |
| humphreybc | THANK GOD Launchpad has fixed a heap of things so overlays come up when changing bug details instead of loading new pages!! | 00:55 |
| godbyk | looks like the PPA glossary entry hasn't been defined. | 00:57 |
| godbyk | Someone misspelled \marginnote. | 00:57 |
| flan | xelatex --version looks correct, numerically. | 00:58 |
| flan | The string devates a little, though, saying TeX Live 2009/Debian. | 00:58 |
| humphreybc | godbyk: could you do us a favour and fix the compile errors so it will compile for me to test? | 00:59 |
| godbyk | I'm working on it. | 00:59 |
| humphreybc | okay | 01:00 |
| humphreybc | i'm going to push my changes | 01:00 |
| humphreybc | let me try and remember how :P | 01:00 |
| godbyk | flan: I think that the Lucid packages were missing some required TeX Live packages. I don't know if they're in the Maverick packages now or not. | 01:00 |
| humphreybc | walk me through so I don't cock it up | 01:00 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: don't push your changes yet. | 01:00 |
| godbyk | gimme just a sec. | 01:00 |
| humphreybc | kay | 01:00 |
| flan | godbyk, is there a simple command sequence I could use to test? | 01:00 |
| Muscovy | flan: compiling lucid-e2 might be a good trial-by-fire. | 01:01 |
| flan | Muscovy, I've never compiled the manual before, so I'm not sure where to start. | 01:01 |
| humphreybc | guys, have a look at this bug report and the comment I added and tell me what you think | 01:02 |
| humphreybc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/584537 | 01:02 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 584537 in ubuntu-manual "notification area is/will be obsolete" [Low,Confirmed] | 01:02 |
| Muscovy | I think that looks good. | 01:05 |
| Muscovy | Besides, other than intended phasing out, not much is really happening yet. | 01:05 |
| Muscovy | flan: Have you run pkgs/install-pkgs.sh? | 01:06 |
| Muscovy | Once you do that, and you're theoretically all set up, compiling is just make ubuntu-manual-en_US.pdf (in the main directory). | 01:06 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: Okay, the PDF should build okay now. | 01:06 |
| humphreybc | okay | 01:06 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: you'll have to run bzr pull to grab the changes. | 01:06 |
| humphreybc | let me pull | 01:06 |
| godbyk | then you can commit and push your changes. | 01:07 |
| flan | Muscovy, which branch do I need? | 01:07 |
| humphreybc | what the bzr shortcut to mark bugs as fix committed? | 01:08 |
| humphreybc | --fixes-bugs or something? | 01:08 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: I never remember. | 01:09 |
| humphreybc | darn | 01:09 |
| Muscovy | flan: lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e2 for a compile test. | 01:11 |
| nigelb | humphreybc: --fixes=1234 | 01:11 |
| Muscovy | Since the main branch doesn't compile right now. | 01:11 |
| humphreybc | nigelb: how do I do multiple bugs? | 01:11 |
| humphreybc | godbyk: main branch still not compiling | 01:11 |
| humphreybc | unless I broke it | 01:11 |
| nigelb | no clue :D | 01:12 |
| nigelb | ideally, one commit should be fixing one bug (commit often?) :D | 01:12 |
| humphreybc | godbyk: what does the \gls command do? | 01:12 |
| flan | Bazaar's spewing host key validation errors at my Maverick box. | 01:12 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: Creates a cross-link to the glossary entry. | 01:12 |
| humphreybc | ah, that's why it wasn't working | 01:13 |
| Muscovy | flan: Have you got your/an SSH key? | 01:13 |
| humphreybc | takes a while to compile nowadays huh :P | 01:13 |
| humphreybc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bugs :D | 01:14 |
| flan | Muscovy, of course. The only thing I can think of is that I'd need to be a member of the manual project itself to be able to pull this branch. | 01:14 |
| humphreybc | can we get the remaining four bugs sorted today? | 01:14 |
| flan | (I'm associated through Quickshot) | 01:14 |
| Muscovy | To be honest, I didn't know people needed to login at all to get branches. | 01:15 |
| humphreybc | great | 01:15 |
| humphreybc | who's got the link to that etherpad? | 01:16 |
| flan | Neither did I. | 01:16 |
| humphreybc | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ump-maverick | 01:17 |
| Muscovy | Gah, my inbox is filling with the manual's bug reports. XD | 01:22 |
| humphreybc | :D | 01:23 |
| humphreybc | anyone recently installed maverick? | 01:30 |
| godbyk | I haven't installed it at all yet. | 01:30 |
| humphreybc | you should :) | 01:31 |
| Muscovy | I've got a partition. | 01:33 |
| Muscovy | I use it on and off. | 01:33 |
| Muscovy | It's temping to just use it, but beta wackiness drives me nutty. | 01:33 |
| humphreybc | I've been using maverick since alpha (a dodgy upgrade from Lucid no less!) and it's been stable as a rock | 01:35 |
| flan | I installed the beta in VirtualBox today. | 01:36 |
| flan | (So I can test Quickshot functionality tomorrow) | 01:37 |
| humphreybc | great | 01:37 |
| humphreybc | flan: is the clock indicator default? | 01:37 |
| flan | The what now? | 01:37 |
| humphreybc | go to the clock in the panel | 01:37 |
| flan | And do what? | 01:37 |
| humphreybc | is it an indicator (ie, left click opens it up, consistent with the memenu, shutdown and shit) | 01:37 |
| humphreybc | right click should display a menu saying "remove from panel" and other crap | 01:38 |
| flan | Left-click brings up the calendar view, same as it's always done. | 01:38 |
| flan | Same as I hope it always does. | 01:38 |
| humphreybc | right click? | 01:38 |
| humphreybc | can you "scroll" through all of the indicators (like volume, messaging, clock, memenu, session menu) ? | 01:38 |
| humphreybc | if you open one and move across | 01:38 |
| flan | No. The clock is different from the rest. | 01:39 |
| flan | It still uses Karmic-style colours. | 01:39 |
| flan | It's the same docklet as it's been for years. | 01:39 |
| humphreybc | :( | 01:40 |
| humphreybc | I guess they're not putting it on the desktop till Natty then | 01:40 |
| godbyk | Shouldn't manualbot tell us when things have been committed to the repository? | 01:41 |
| humphreybc | it should | 01:47 |
| humphreybc | back in about an hour, getting lunch | 01:47 |
| godbyk | k | 01:48 |
| daker | godbyk, have you installed django on the server ? | 01:48 |
| godbyk | daker: I think I have an old version on there. | 01:49 |
| daker | which one ? | 01:49 |
| godbyk | Let me look | 01:50 |
| daker | godbyk, food time | 01:54 |
| flan | Muscovy, the Maverick TeX Live packages seem to be unable to find things like xifthen.sty and xkeyval.sty. | 02:37 |
| Muscovy | Someone really ought to update it. :| | 02:41 |
| Muscovy | Actually, I'm surprised the manual doesn't have a Tex PPA or something. | 02:42 |
| humphreybc | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+milestone/ubuntu-manual-maverick-alpha | 02:49 |
| humphreybc | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+milestone/ubuntu-manual-maverick-rc | 02:49 |
| humphreybc | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+milestone/ubuntu-manual-maverick-final | 02:49 |
| godbyk | Muscovy: We do have a TeX PPA. But I think it's offline at the moment. | 02:59 |
| Muscovy | Offline as in outdated or as in Launchpad is moody? | 03:02 |
| godbyk | I think the latter two. | 03:03 |
| godbyk | jenkins is the one to ask about it. He's the one who set up the PPA. | 03:04 |
| Muscovy | Both? | 03:04 |
| humphreybc | godbyk: I assigned a few bugs to you btw :) | 03:05 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: Gee, thanks! :-) | 03:05 |
| humphreybc | when you install Maverick (which will be very soon hopefully) can you take notes on the new installer? | 03:05 |
| humphreybc | it hasn't landed just yet though | 03:05 |
| humphreybc | http://dylanmccall.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-installer-slideshow-for-ubuntu.html | 03:05 |
| godbyk | Yeah, I can do that when the installer lands. | 03:05 |
| humphreybc | lp:ubuntu-manual-website is working, right? | 03:06 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: should be. | 03:07 |
| humphreybc | y'know, it's not actually the end of the world if we release the manual AFTER Maverick comes out | 03:07 |
| humphreybc | of course it's ideal to coincide with the release | 03:07 |
| humphreybc | but manuals for OSes usually come out long after the OS is released | 03:08 |
| humphreybc | (probably because other OSes are proprietary) | 03:08 |
| godbyk | we may have to depending on when all the UI updates finally land. | 03:08 |
| godbyk | (They won't stop changing things on us.) | 03:08 |
| humphreybc | yeah | 03:08 |
| humphreybc | so much for the UI freeze | 03:08 |
| Muscovy | I think we should aim for as-close-as-possible. | 03:08 |
| humphreybc | I'm struggling to actually figure out what needs to be changed text wise | 03:09 |
| humphreybc | for bugs like this | 03:09 |
| humphreybc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/630548 | 03:09 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 630548 in ubuntu-manual "MeMenu, sound menu and messaging menu changes" [High,Confirmed] | 03:09 |
| godbyk | you'll have to read through that section of the manual and see if anything no longer holds true with the new menus. | 03:12 |
| humphreybc | fixing the f-spot / shotwell thing atm | 03:17 |
| humphreybc | godbyk: how do I do bullet points again? | 03:35 |
| godbyk | \begin{itemize} \item blah \item blah \end{itemize} | 03:36 |
| humphreybc | thanks | 03:37 |
| humphreybc | how would you explain "tint" for an image? | 03:38 |
| humphreybc | Saturation is "how colorful the image is" | 03:38 |
| humphreybc | tint is...? | 03:38 |
| humphreybc | what's the command for bold? | 03:39 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: bold for what, specifically? | 03:39 |
| humphreybc | and for an emdash? | 03:39 |
| godbyk | dash is \dash | 03:39 |
| humphreybc | i'm listing the options under "Adjust" - levls, exposure, saturation, tint, temp etc etc. I want to bold the names of each thing and then have a very short description beside them | 03:40 |
| godbyk | Use \begin{description} \item[Levels} blah blah \item[Exposure] blah blah \end{description} | 03:40 |
| humphreybc | huh? | 03:41 |
| humphreybc | oh ok | 03:41 |
| humphreybc | description for tint? | 03:41 |
| godbyk | you're on your own there. | 03:42 |
| Muscovy | General colour scheme maybe? | 03:42 |
| humphreybc | http://trac.yorba.org/wiki/UsingShotwell0.7 | 03:42 |
| Muscovy | I'd image that means basically adding a really page colour overlay. | 03:43 |
| Muscovy | Like saturation but not just greyscaled? | 03:43 |
| humphreybc | okay | 03:50 |
| humphreybc | if someone wants to go through the shotwell stuff and have a look at the changes, i'd be grateful | 03:50 |
| Muscovy | Just make a list or something? | 03:51 |
| humphreybc | comment on the bug report | 03:51 |
| Muscovy | Ah. | 03:51 |
| humphreybc | :) | 03:51 |
| humphreybc | or alternatively, just make changes | 03:51 |
| Muscovy | I could help, but I don't feel like using Shotwell for an hour. | 03:52 |
| humphreybc | neither do I, but has to be done :D | 03:53 |
| === zkriesse__ is now known as zkriesse_ | ||
| godbyk | This project is hard work. Who's dumb idea was this anyway?! ;-) | 03:53 |
| humphreybc | heh | 03:53 |
| humphreybc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=High&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Fix+Committed | 03:54 |
| Muscovy | It must be cool to look back at when it was just an idea. | 03:54 |
| humphreybc | those are the most important | 03:54 |
| humphreybc | Muscovy: you should see the original manual from open office :P | 03:54 |
| Muscovy | I've assigned myself to Software Centre stuff, since I've already been working on that. | 03:55 |
| humphreybc | yay | 03:56 |
| Muscovy | I'll stick to the Software Centre for now, but I'll probably play with Shotwell tomorrow. | 03:57 |
| humphreybc | :) | 03:57 |
| Muscovy | It's evening here and nearing reading time. | 03:57 |
| === Zeike is now known as brandonj | ||
| humphreybc | can we get manualbot telling us when people have pushed to the branch and their commit message? | 04:04 |
| humphreybc | it would be immensely helpful | 04:04 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: there's apparently a supybot bzr plugin. | 04:09 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: dude, you gotta stop adding revision.tex and screenshots.log files. :) | 04:26 |
| humphreybc | my bad :P | 04:27 |
| Muscovy | Is someone working on the cover? | 04:28 |
| godbyk | Muscovy: thorwil handles the covers. | 04:29 |
| dutchie | rev 10 | 12:11 |
| manualbot | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/revision/10 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual -r 10 | 12:11 |
| dutchie | hmm | 12:11 |
| jenkins | flan: in glade id you go help > about > credits they have the e-mail's click able any idea how to do that with a normal text box/lable ? | 17:01 |
| flan | It might be a Pango markup property. I'm really not sure. | 17:04 |
| flan | I wouldn't worry too much about that detail. | 17:04 |
| flan | Figure it out if you have time. | 17:04 |
| jenkins | k I will look into it | 17:05 |
| jenkins | apart from adding the people into the credits windows is there anything elese you would liek me to do? | 17:07 |
| flan | Once credits and licence are done? | 17:07 |
| flan | Uh... | 17:08 |
| jenkins | I am trying to find one or two settings for to get those pages pefect | 17:08 |
| flan | Well, we're going to need much better logging coverage... And documentation... | 17:09 |
| jenkins | documentaion on how to use it? | 17:09 |
| flan | Think you can write good-sounding text that may be exposed to other developers? | 17:09 |
| flan | No, documentation of the code itself. | 17:09 |
| flan | We've got a lot of it. | 17:09 |
| flan | I was planning to do that after we have 0.9.x ready. | 17:09 |
| flan | BEcause of the crunch. | 17:10 |
| jenkins | I don't know what alot of the code does but I can have a read and see what makes sense | 17:10 |
| flan | If not, then environment_details contains a number of bugs. | 17:10 |
| flan | Like commands being expressed as strings, rather than sequences. | 17:10 |
| flan | Would you be comfortable wrapping, testing, and revising those functions? | 17:11 |
| flan | I should have screen-captures working again very soon. | 17:11 |
| flan | So we'll also need to test stuff. | 17:11 |
| jenkins | have you implimented the resolution changing stuff? | 17:12 |
| flan | No, not yet. | 17:12 |
| flan | I'm going to work backwards. | 17:12 |
| jenkins | k just wondering if it was failing for me :) | 17:12 |
| flan | If you want to write some basic functions thatll change and roll back the resolution and put them inot a new package inside of lib/, that would work. | 17:13 |
| flan | mkdir lib/resolution/ | 17:13 |
| flan | touch lib/resolution/__init__.py | 17:13 |
| flan | Put stuff in there. | 17:13 |
| jenkins | ok I will do some work into how to get the origianl resolution. i must be stored some where | 17:13 |
| flan | No, it's not failing. I just wanted to make sure I had callbacks working from that window. | 17:13 |
| flan | So it'd behave the way the user would expect. | 17:14 |
| jenkins | yea cool | 17:14 |
| flan | The resolution library will need to provide the current resolution and change resolutions. It shouldn't need any other externally accessible functions. | 17:14 |
| flan | It should internally handle everything currently done by environment_details. | 17:15 |
| flan | So move all the grapgics-card-checking stuff into that module and make it completely isolated from the rest of the code. | 17:15 |
| flan | get_resolution() -> tuple(x, y); set_resolution(x, y) -> any number of possible exceptions, grouped under a common Error class. See the server modules for examples on how to do this. | 17:16 |
| flan | -s | 17:16 |
| jenkins | ok I will have a read i need to work out how to get the current resolution first | 17:22 |
| flan | Of course. | 17:22 |
| flan | I've got lots to do, so there's no rush. | 17:22 |
| flan | Getting it right is more important than just getting something. | 17:23 |
| jenkins | ok makes sense | 17:23 |
| thorwil | jenkins: hi! http://www.foopics.com/showfull/1827bc02f1d99e1d27108dd08590e84b | 17:40 |
| jenkins | hey thorwil i like the lower one, what would it look like with different colour text to the large Q | 17:42 |
| jenkins | also what contact details/e-mail would you like to have next to your name in the credits window? | 17:42 |
| thorwil | jenkins: i'd like a link to http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ | 17:44 |
| jenkins | cool will do :) | 17:44 |
| thorwil | jenkins: if others appear with email address, t_w_@freenet.de is ok (known to every spammer one earth since long) | 17:45 |
| jenkins | I am happy with the website, I will bear that in mind thanks | 17:46 |
| thorwil | jenkins: so it's all about color tweaks for the logo now? | 17:47 |
| * thorwil -> dinner | 17:47 | |
| jenkins | for me yes | 17:47 |
| jenkins | i like the bottom one over the top | 17:47 |
| jenkins | have a nice dinner thorwil | 17:49 |
| jenkins | be back later | 18:16 |
| === Zeike is now known as brandonj | ||
| thorwil | jenkins, flan: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/98ddcd8128b519d7bf110ea9c5f80c53 | 20:36 |
| jenkins | I am not sure about the use of the background color and how it would look in the program. I prefer the colours on the left | 20:38 |
| flan | I'm okay with whatever. | 20:39 |
| flan | I don't think we can really go too wrong. | 20:39 |
| jenkins | I am just putting it in the app to see what it looks like | 20:42 |
| thorwil | jenkins: not sure about what to do with the logo for in-app use, would have to see ... | 20:42 |
| Muscovy | That's a _nice_ set of logos. | 20:43 |
| thorwil | ty | 20:44 |
| jenkins | http://imagebin.org/112804 apart form the over streched window i am unsure. what about swapping the bacground colour and the white? | 20:44 |
| thorwil | btw, did ben say anything about the earthquake in christchurch? | 20:44 |
| jenkins | erm he is ok thats all i konw | 20:45 |
| jenkins | ok now I like the bottom right. what about making the background white and changing the text to the background color on that one? | 20:45 |
| jenkins | white/see through | 20:46 |
| thorwil | guess there will have to be 2, one for use on bright ground | 20:46 |
| thorwil | the other as intended for the website | 20:46 |
| thorwil | the idea behind the color and contrast is a camera flash | 20:47 |
| jenkins | I see they are great! btw | 20:48 |
| jenkins | *see, | 20:48 |
| thorwil | glad you like them :) | 20:48 |
| jenkins | I was looking at colour choices earlier using agave and could not come up with anything. its very hard, you have made a good choice on that. | 20:50 |
| jenkins | I think the bottom left one and do it with white/transparent on the outside with current background where white is for one version .then as it is for the other one. would that look right ? | 20:52 |
| flan | jenkins, are you good with visualizing 2D geometry in discrete co-ordinates? | 20:54 |
| flan | I'm trying to redo the sub-rect logic and I'm starting to lose concentration. | 20:54 |
| jenkins | do you mean take a screenshot of the panel only stuff? | 20:55 |
| jenkins | I should be good with 2d cordinates | 20:55 |
| flan | Uh... Sure. | 20:55 |
| * jenkins is sure flan thinks he is mad :) | 20:55 | |
| flan | I mean more like "Given this cropped section of the screen, take this other rectangle and reduce the area to only the overlapping parts" | 20:55 |
| thorwil | jenkins: i found tools like agave to be more of a distraction than a help, as colors depend on their surrounding so much | 20:56 |
| flan | You're an engineer. I'd expect you to be better with numbers. | 20:56 |
| jenkins | I am good with numbers, i just have to make sure i right them down correctly. what do you mean by overlapping parts? | 20:58 |
| jenkins | thorwil: makes sense why i could not get any where with it | 20:58 |
| Muscovy | Quickshot uses PyGTK, right? | 20:58 |
| flan | Yes, Muscovy, it does. | 20:59 |
| Muscovy | Are there any tutorials you'd recommend? I mean to learn it, but it looks frighteningly complicated. | 21:00 |
| flan | It's actually quite easy. | 21:00 |
| flan | The reference documentation is excellent. | 21:00 |
| Muscovy | Phew. | 21:00 |
| flan | Are you comfortable with Python in gneeral? | 21:01 |
| flan | general* | 21:01 |
| Muscovy | Fairly. | 21:01 |
| Muscovy | I just know "general Python". | 21:01 |
| jenkins | nissh recomended http://learnpygtk.org/pygtktutorial/index.html to me it does not cover everything but is usefull | 21:02 |
| flan | Are you intimidated by the Python module index? | 21:02 |
| jenkins | yes | 21:02 |
| jenkins | flan: which bits overlap that what i don't get | 21:02 |
| Muscovy | Thanks jenkins, I'll bookmark that. | 21:05 |
| thorwil | enough for today, good night! :) | 21:07 |
| flan | jenkins, I just wrote a summary. I'll commit it in a moment. | 21:11 |
| jenkins | ok ty | 21:11 |
| flan | I basically just need you to write a function that takes some base geometry and a pair of flags and returns potentially altered geometry. | 21:12 |
| jenkins | I am trying to work out how gnome-display-properties works out the current screenset up | 21:12 |
| flan | (A tuple of four numbers) | 21:12 |
| jenkins | ok cool I will take a look | 21:13 |
| flan | There's a much easier way than that. | 21:13 |
| jenkins | I have gained memories of wnckd or something | 21:14 |
| flan | wnck can do it easily, yes. | 21:15 |
| flan | >>> import gtk | 21:15 |
| flan | >>> gtk.gdk.screen_get_default().get_width() | 21:15 |
| flan | 2880 | 21:15 |
| flan | >>> gtk.gdk.screen_get_default().get_height() | 21:15 |
| flan | 900 | 21:15 |
| jenkins | how would you tell if there are two screens? | 21:15 |
| flan | Do you need to? | 21:15 |
| jenkins | well people can have some strange setups | 21:16 |
| flan | Fair enough. | 21:17 |
| jenkins | we can use your way for now but it would be good to do it properly | 21:18 |
| jenkins | I will have a play with dgkscreen | 21:19 |
| flan | I've just got my monitors merged into a single massive screen managed by X viewports. | 21:19 |
| flan | I think that's pretty common. | 21:20 |
| flan | Resizing it would look terrible, of course. | 21:20 |
| jenkins | its how nvidia twin view is handled. last release i cloned the display on the outputs for dual screens | 21:20 |
| * jenkins starts using gnome shell to see how he gets on | 21:27 | |
| flan | Math issue worked out. | 21:38 |
| jenkins | coolio | 21:39 |
| jenkins | night all | 22:05 |
| flan | Hi, brettalton. | 22:11 |
| brettalton | heyya | 22:12 |
| flan | It's so rare that people will apply and actually drop by. | 22:12 |
| Muscovy | Apply for what? | 22:12 |
| flan | The Quickshot team. | 22:12 |
| brettalton | well I wanted to get workin :) | 22:13 |
| flan | Are you familiar with PyGTK or should I try to force some library tasks on you? | 22:14 |
| flan | Though I've actually finished all the major PyGTK reworking... | 22:14 |
| flan | And I'm going to be connecting pieces pretty quickly, so trying to work in the GUI right now might be an exercise in futility. | 22:14 |
| brettalton | flan: you talking to me? I'm just the (new) website guy :( | 22:15 |
| flan | Oh. | 22:15 |
| brettalton | in time I would like to learn PyGTK though | 22:15 |
| flan | Well, then, in that case, you'll probably want to speak to daker. | 22:16 |
| * flan approves application. | 22:16 | |
| Glorfindel | lol | 22:17 |
| brettalton | Ya, I've got what I need, I just want to download the website branch so I can submit some changes here | 22:17 |
| brettalton | flan: excellent, thank you | 22:17 |
| flan | I dunno if we're still using that branch... | 22:17 |
| flan | I'm not sure what's going on witht he website. | 22:17 |
| flan | I've been too busy trying to get the application itself ready for the 10th. | 22:18 |
| brettalton | flan: don't worry, I've been talking with humphreybc and he got me on path | 22:18 |
| flan | I'll leave it to you, then. Not that I had any intention of building the site myself or anything. | 22:23 |
| * flan is not a designer. | 22:23 | |
| brettalton | hey, we all have our skills. If it wasn't for you, what would the quickshot 1.0 release be? | 22:25 |
| flan | 0.0.8 with, like, more numbers. | 22:25 |
| flan | Which would be *awesome*. | 22:25 |
| brettalton | daker: you there? | 23:05 |
| daker | hey brettalton | 23:39 |
| brettalton | hey daker | 23:39 |
| daker | yep | 23:39 |
| daker | brettalton, need help ? | 23:51 |
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