[00:13] <lfaraone> dfarning: uh, I'm not able to reproduce bug 617813 … When I click register Sugar doens't freeze, I just get an error…
[00:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 617813 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "sugar freezes when register widget is clicked (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617813
[00:15] <dfarning> lfaraone, the bug is only trigger when attempting to connect to a jabber server that has frozen... which is pretty common
[00:16] <lfaraone> dfarning: okay. I'm at a cafe with another Ubuntu Developer, and we were scratching our heads as to how this would be needed.
[00:16] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'll add that to the bug description.
[00:17] <dfarning> lfaraone, thanks
[00:18] <lfaraone> dfarning: do you have a frozen jabber server I could test with? :)
[00:21] <dfarning> lfaraone, I am getting about a 10 second grey rectulangle when registering with xo1share.org then the error appears
[00:21] <dfarning> lfaraone, btw moon is ready for review:)
[00:22] <lfaraone> will do.
[00:22] <lfaraone> I found a way to reproduce it using "nc -l 8080" :)
[09:16] <bernie> dfarning: done
[09:16] <bernie> dfarning: (TRAC_ADMIN, that is)
[12:02] <dfarning> bernie_afk, thanks
[12:17] <ankur> hi dfarning ,good morning :)
[12:17] <dfarning> good morning ankur
[12:18] <dfarning> ankur, what bug number re you working on?
[12:19] <ankur> dfarning,  i was testing apport support for sugar-emulator . bug is 617823
[12:20] <ankur> bug 617823
[12:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 617823 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "Add apport bug reporting support in sugar (affects: 1) (heat: 221)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617823
[12:21] <ankur> dfarning,  what exactly will i add button in frame for?
[12:23] <dfarning> ankur, currently to report a bug in USR, user must log into LP and file out a form by hand.  There is usally a bunch of missing information.
[12:25] <ankur> okay and what exactly will the button do? wont apport intercept in between when sugar crashes ?
[12:25] <dfarning> ankur, the apport button is a hook to the apport bug reporting system... the apport system create the bug on LP and sends a bug of very useful information such as sugar version, ubuntu version, dependancies...
[12:26] <dfarning> ankur, the button allows user to send  a non-crashing bug.
[12:27] <ankur> okay , i thought that we only want ro report crash only :)
[12:27] <dfarning> ankur, ie they see something wrong and push the button. 90% on the work of reporing the bug in already done.
[12:27] <dfarning> ankur, nah, at this time want to make it easy for testers to report high quality bugs.
[12:29] <ankur> so , if i add button , what will be the channel to report bug to launchpad.Will we using apport for that purpose as well or am i missing something here?
[12:29] <ankur> i mean when , what specifically will the button trigger ?
[12:30] <dfarning> ankur, yes the button will trigger apport -> which will trigger an interactive bug reporting session.
[12:33]  * ankur is looking into it . coming back in 5 min
[12:42] <ankur> dfarning,  i was not able to launch apport bug reporting session . is there any specific command to run it?\
[12:51] <dfarning> ankur, I don't think you can launch an apport session by itself.  It must be triggered in a application via hooks.
[13:00] <dfarning> ankur, 'ubuntu-bug sucrose-0.88' will trigger a apport from the command line.
[13:01] <ankur> dfarning,  we were just testing this command with sugar-emulator :) . if any bug gets filed accidentally , please ignore it .
[13:02] <dfarning> ankur, ok are you working with neeraj?
[13:03] <ankur> yes :)
[13:06] <dfarning> ankur, can you ask neeraj to try pushing LP#617582 upstream when he gets a chance?  I am now a SL trac moderator so I fix things if the bug gets stuck in moderation.
[13:25]  * ankur si going for lunch
[15:13] <dipankar> dfarning, good morning
[15:14] <dfarning> dipankar, good morning
[15:21] <neeraj> dfarning: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-September/026553.html
[15:24] <dfarning> neeraj is there an open bug in SL?  all code review requests should point back to SL#bug for tracking purposes.
[15:25] <neeraj> dfarning: I didn't mention the bug the ticket number. 2280
[15:26] <dfarning> neeraj the commit message should also contain information about the problem the bug is attempting to solve.
[15:26] <neeraj> dfarning: If needed then in future I will add the bug url in the description. btw, in the patch file, the bug ticket number is present :)
[15:27] <neeraj> In future I will add the url also :)
[15:27] <dfarning> neeraj ok great I just scanned body.
[15:29] <dfarning> neeraj can you try to attach the pacth to the bug report to make sure that your account at ls is working correctly.
[15:32] <neeraj> dfarning: at present I am unable to see any option for uploading the patch
[15:33] <dfarning> neeraj ae you logged in. there should be an attach file button just below the bug description in the yellow box
[15:36] <manusheel> dfarning: Same issue that Kandarp faced.
[15:37] <manusheel> dfarning: I am able to upload the patches from my user or SEETA user.
[15:37] <neeraj> dfarning: I am logged in. In yellow box, there is only an option of reply. Also a message that msg will route through moderation.
[15:38]  * neeraj not sure whether assigning myself as owner of bug will solve the issue or not
[15:38] <dfarning> neeraj try it
[15:39] <neeraj> request in moderation queue.
[15:41] <neeraj> message on bugs.SL- Your submission has been routed to Sascha Silbe for approval
[15:42] <dfarning> neeraj ok I approved the moderation request... trying to figure out how to add you to the approved list
[15:44] <neeraj> Ok. it didn't solved the purpose.
[15:46] <neeraj> still unable to see an option for attaching file
[15:47] <dfarning> neeraj what is your user name on trac?
[15:50] <dfarning> neeraj please try in now I add neerag_gupta to the unmoderated group.
[15:52] <neeraj> dfarning: Thanks. I can see the option now.
[15:52] <dfarning> neeraj great --- manusheel who else needs to be ad to the unmoderated list
[15:57] <manusheel> dfarning: Everyone at the SEETA team.
[15:57] <manusheel> I'll send you an e-mail soon.
[15:57] <dfarning> manusheel, thanks
[15:59] <dipankar> lfaraone, ping
[16:10]  * dipankar says hello to all
[16:11] <dipankar> dfarning, Luke uploaded the register bug solution patch at bugs.sl.o: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2289
[16:12] <dipankar> sascha is recommending something else
[16:14] <dfarning> dipankar, he gave a good review and he stated the solution is better than nothing.
[16:15] <dfarning> dipankar, later we can work on the async registration... but that gets harder and likely won't be done for months if not years.
[16:16] <dipankar> dfarning, ohk.
[16:19] <dfarning> dipankar, welcome to the world of peer code reviews by fellow hackers.... I can seem brutal but it is the single best practice for a) creating high quality code and b) learning.
[16:20] <dfarning> dipankar, FWIW it is not unusual for new kernel developers to spend weeks on their first patch:)
[16:21] <dfarning> dipankar, s/I/It/  While I guess I can seem brutal too:(
[16:22] <dipankar> dfarning, ^^ not all. There is nothing brutal about it. :)
[16:29] <dipankar> dfarning, so the process of ansync is a difficult job as of now, I guess
[16:43]  * dipankar off to dinner
[16:51] <mukul> hi alsroot
[16:52] <alsroot> mukul: hi
[16:53] <mukul> alsroot, Bug 2163 was solved previous commits. Thank you for your help. I'm currently working on sl #1520.
[16:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 2163 in realplayer (Ubuntu) "installs rp8 and not rp10 (dups: 1) (heat: 1)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2163
[16:55] <mukul> alsroot: The bug basically states that when a single window Journal is present,then Alt+Tab should do nothing. There are comments on the page which says that it is not a bug but a utility.
[16:57] <alsroot> mukul: can you still reproduce the issue? not sure if it was metacity or matchbox related
[16:58] <mukul> alsroot, I can't reproduce it on sugar-emulator
[16:58] <mukul> alsroot: I thought I would be able to once I boot into sugar directly.
[16:58] <alsroot> mukul: could you check it
[16:59] <mukul> alsroot: Ok, Sure
[17:05] <ishan> alsroot, hi
[17:05] <ishan> around??
[17:05] <alsroot> ishan: hi
[17:06] <ishan> alsroot, can you provide me with some pointers on how to reproduce the bug http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/305
[17:12] <alsroot> ishan: no ideas, since we don't have chekboxes in black background
[17:12] <ishan> alsroot, no problem
[17:48] <dipankar> mukul, ping
[17:49] <ishan> dipankar, , can you provide me with some pointers on how to reproduce the bug http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/305
[17:50] <dipankar> ishan, I am not getting what the bug is actually menaing
[17:51] <ishan> dipankar, sir that the problem i am facing
[17:51] <dipankar> ishan, I am taking the mouse over any icon
[17:51] <dipankar> mukul, ping
[17:51] <mukul> dipankar:hi
[17:51] <ishan> dipankar, didnt got your point
[17:51] <mukul> dipankar sir: Are you  able to reproduce the bug?
[17:51] <dipankar> ishan, take the mouse over any icon, see if any box is forming
[17:52] <mukul> alsroot, I am not able to reproduce it
[17:52] <dipankar> mukul, nope.
[17:52] <mukul> alsroot, dipankar : Alt+ Tab does nothing
[17:52] <ishan> dipankar, yes the box is being formed
[17:52] <dipankar> mukul, alsroot : Alt + Tab causes window switch for gnome
[17:53] <dipankar> no matter Sugar emulator is running or not
[17:53] <mukul> dipankar sir: Yes but that is not we want. Therefore I booted directly into sugar emulator
[17:53] <ishan> dipankar, but in the bug it has some reference to check box
[17:54] <mukul> dipankar, and then I tried Alt+ Tab . It did nothing.No matter I had only the journal open or multiple activities.
[17:55] <manusheel> kandarpk: Hi Kandarp.
[17:55] <dipankar> ishan, btw, It's mentioned for SoaS
[17:55] <alsroot> dipankar: so, you can reproduce Alt+Tab issue? to make sugar, call in Terminal `metacity-message disable-keybindings` and try
[17:55] <mukul> dipankar sir: Did you read the comment at the sl.org . farn suggests that it is not a bug but a utility. The same thing happens in GNOME or Windows 7 for that matter. It didn't used to be the same in Windows XP,9x
[17:55] <ishan> dipankar, yes sir
[17:55] <dipankar> mukul, so there also nothing happens?
[17:56] <manusheel> kandarp: Have you tested the patch on Ubuntu?
[17:56] <alsroot> dipankar: s/sugar/sure/
[17:56] <dipankar> alsroot, on it.
[17:56] <ishan> manusheel, sir could you please re check  the bug assigned to me as its mentioned there for Saos and also i am not able to reproduce the bug on my system
[17:56] <dipankar> ishan, just a minute
[17:57] <mukul> dipankar sir: Yes Nothing at all. Alt highlights and Tab does what it always does
[17:57] <manusheel> ishan: If you read the last comment, you'll see it is for Sugar.
[17:57] <manusheel> ishan: Someone mistakenly added SoaS over there.
[17:57] <alsroot> dipankar: try it in native sugar (i.e. w/o Xephyr)
[17:57] <ishan> manusheel, oops just went through that
[17:58] <dipankar> alsroot, you mean to write the command in the sugar terminal then?
[17:58] <dipankar> * command => metacity message
[17:58] <alsroot> dipankar: yup
[18:00] <manusheel> ishan: Are you a member of sugar-devel?
[18:00] <ishan> manusheel, sir but i have still not understood how to reproduce the bug as mentioned in the ticket
[18:00] <ishan> sir i joined it today
[18:00] <ishan> have send the patch mail as well
[18:00] <manusheel> ishan: Were you able to submit the patch?
[18:01]  * dipankar is rebooting to sugar-session : be right back
[18:01] <ishan> manusheel, yes sir
[18:02] <ishan> i think you should have received the mail
[18:02] <manusheel> ishan: Let me check.
[18:02] <manusheel> ishan: So, you are unable to reproduce this issue, right?
[18:02] <ishan> manusheel, right
[18:03] <ishan> if you check the same thing is written in the bug ticket as the feature which produced this bug has been changed
[18:03] <manusheel> ishan: Ok, let me check it.
[18:03] <ishan> manusheel, sure sir
[18:05] <manusheel> ishan: It reads "This is not a current issue anymore as the checkbox has been removed. However we should fix this as we might run into it again."
[18:05] <manusheel> alsroot: It reads "This is not a current issue anymore as the checkbox has been removed. However we should fix this as we might run into it again."
[18:05] <kandarpk> manusheel, alsroot, dfarning: after making changes in sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar how can I test the changes ?
[18:05] <manusheel> kandarpk: Run sugar-jhbuild again.
[18:05] <ishan> manusheel, i read that sir but i not able to identify the bug until i am able to reproduce it
[18:06] <manusheel> ishan: So, the bug was not reproducible, right?
[18:06] <ishan> manusheel, yes sir
[18:07] <manusheel> ishan: Fine. Can you send me an e-mail on what you tried, and that it is not reproducible.
[18:07] <ishan> manusheel, sure sir
[18:07] <dipankar> alsroot, I am not able to reproduce the bug
[18:07] <manusheel> kandarpk: The bug should go away.
[18:08] <manusheel> dipankar: bug #1520?
[18:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1520 in launchpad-foundations "gpg CRC error in Validate your GPG Key email" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520
[18:08]  * dipankar thinks reproducing bugs is getting tougher day by day
[18:08] <manusheel> dipankar: Is it SL #1520?
[18:09] <dipankar> manusheel, no sir. ticket #1520 at bugs.sl.o : alt + tab
[18:09] <dipankar> manusheel, sorry didn't see your last message
[18:09] <manusheel> dipankar: Ok, David wrote  a message on it -
[18:09] <dipankar> looking into it
[18:10] <manusheel> dipankar: David: reading 5:13 AM  interesting bug. pretty easy. will need to log into sugar session to test. if in the emulator the lt-tab with get caught by the os and show the application switcher:) 5:14 AM  me: Ok, interesting. Great.
[18:10] <manusheel> kandarpk: Did it fix?
[18:10] <dfarning> kandarpk, try deleting some activities with and without them being marked as protected in gconf.
[18:10] <dipankar> manusheel, sir : tried logging into sugar as said by alsroot too, nothing happened
[18:11] <dfarning> dipankar, which bug are you working on?
[18:11] <dipankar> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1520
[18:11] <dipankar> dfarning, ^^
[18:11] <alsroot> dfarning: you mean Alt+Tab doesn't reveal window switch popup?
[18:11] <alsroot> dipankar: sorry, dipankar ^
[18:12] <ishan> manusheel, sir sent
[18:12] <dipankar> alsroot, no.
[18:13] <dfarning> dipankar, you will have to test that on an XO or as a sugar session in ubuntu.
[18:13] <manusheel> ishan: Thank you.
[18:13] <dipankar> dfarning, I did log into sugar-session :). alsroot told the same thing
[18:14] <dipankar> alsroot, dfarning: I opened two activities: browse and log
[18:14] <dipankar> then tried Alt + Tab: nothing happened
[18:14] <dfarning> dipankar, what was the expected result?
[18:14] <dipankar> also ran the command : metacity-message disable-keybindings
[18:15] <dipankar> dfarning, I think Alt + Tab should switch between the activities
[18:16] <dfarning> dipankar, yes.  So would say that you are running into a second closely related bug that Alt+Tab does not work on ubuntu....
[18:17] <alsroot> dipankar: btw, did Alt+Tab show popup before executing "metacity-message disable-keybindings"?
[18:17] <dipankar> dfarning, :? I think Alt + Tab works fine on Ubuntu.
[18:17] <dipankar> alsroot, no, nothing :(
[18:18] <alsroot> dipankar: so, bug was already fixed, from some point sugar shell calls "metacity-message disable-keybindings"
[18:18] <dfarning> dipankar, I thought you just said <dipankar> dfarning, I did log into sugar-session :). alsroot told the same thing
[18:18] <dfarning>  alsroot, dfarning: I opened two activities: browse and log
 then tried Alt + Tab: nothing happened
[18:19] <dipankar> dfarning, I meant gnome by ubuntu :)
[18:20] <dipankar> dfarning, for Sugar on Ubuntu : Alt + tab doesn't work
[18:20] <alsroot> dipankar: that's bad (about not switcing between activities)
[18:20] <dfarning> dipankar, +1
[18:21] <ishan> dfarning, hi
[18:21] <dipankar> alsroot, dfarning : The alt + tab is a very universal shortcut for all OS (atleast of which i know)
[18:21] <alsroot> dipankar: metacity ones should be disabled by "metacity-message disable-keybindings"
[18:21] <dfarning> ishan, hello
[18:22] <dfarning> ishan, are you work on the check box bug
[18:22] <ishan> dfarning, yes
[18:22] <ishan> can you provide me with some pointers
[18:22] <alsroot> dipankar: so it is a bug in sugar, sugar should use A+Tab for switching
[18:23] <ishan> dfarning, i am not able to understand what the bug is about?
[18:24] <dfarning> ishan, let's switch to #sugar-nebies aslroot and dipankar are working on another bug here
[18:24] <ishan> dfarning, sure
[18:25] <manusheel> kandarpk: Did the change in sugar-jhbuild make it work?
[18:26] <dipankar> alsroot, the metacity-message command then should work on gnome?
[18:26] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: I am not able to find the problem
[18:26] <manusheel> kandarpk: Can you elaborate?
[18:27] <kandarpk> manusheel sir; I checked out master branch and then ran sugar emulator but got similar output
[18:27] <alsroot> dipankar: metacity-message just disables metacity shortcuts
[18:27] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok, so re-starting sugar-jhbuild didn't change the code, right?
[18:27] <dipankar> alsroot, shall i try it on gnome env?
[18:28] <manusheel> kandarpk: code -> feature
[18:28] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: http://paste.ubuntu.com/488841/
[18:28] <kandarpk> got this on running sugar-jhbuild
[18:29] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok, I don't have much idea on this.
[18:29] <alsroot> dipankar: if sugar's Alt+Tab doesn't work in session mode most likely it won't work in Xephyr as well
[18:29] <manusheel> kandarpk: Can you drop me an e-mail with this issue, and that the steps you tried.
[18:29] <dipankar> alsroot, the command doesn't work in ubuntu (gnome)
[18:29] <manusheel> kandarpk: Also, add these logs.
[18:29] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: in line 8 it says /apps/metacity/general/num_workspaces is set to 0
[18:30] <dipankar> alsroot, I ran the command, but still the OS alt + tab works
[18:30] <kandarpk> but I checked its value and it was set as 2
[18:30] <manusheel> kandarpk: There would be some issue with it. Add this in the e-mail.
[18:31] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: OK.
[18:31] <manusheel> kandarpk: David suggested : [22:40] <kandarpk, try deleting some activities with and without them being marked as protected in gconf.
[18:31] <alsroot> dipankar: yup, there is not way to disable it becasue there are 2 metacities, one in your native X session and one in Xephyr (which was disabled), what is working is your native matacity
[18:31] <dipankar> alsroot, ohk
[18:32] <manusheel> kandarpk: Can you try this. If this doesn't work, add that part in the e-mail too.
[18:32] <alsroot> dipankar: I guess it will be very inpredictable if sugar-emulator will affect native env
[18:32] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: I dont have much idea how to mark activities as protected in gconf
[18:33] <manusheel> kandarpk: Can you add this in the e-mail as a question. How to mark activities as protected in gconf?
[18:33] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: ok.
[18:33] <manusheel> kandarpk: We'll take this up from there.
[18:34] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: shall I send the e-mail to the sugar-devel mailing list ?
[18:34] <manusheel> kandarpk: You can send it to me.
[18:34] <dipankar> alsroot, then there is no way emulator can have the alt + tab func?
[18:34] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: ok
[18:34] <manusheel> kandarpk: We'll circulate it internally to see if someone has an idea.
[18:35] <manusheel> kandarpk: Then escalate it to sugar-devel.
[18:36] <alsroot> dipankar: not sure how it(native-X-metacityi +i Xephyr) work, but looks like native X sessions' priority is higher then Xephyr's
[18:37] <dipankar> alsroot, ok
[18:41] <dipankar> alsroot, i think sugar emulator is detecting the alt and tab keys.
[18:41] <dipankar> alsroot, if somehow the combination is detected by emulator and switch of activities takes place
[18:42] <dipankar> alsroot, oops, forgot one thing: at the same time gnome switch window will be executed :(
[18:44] <alsroot> dipankar: well, I guess we have to disable Alt+Tab in sugar then, but ask sugar-devel@ maybe someone has better idea
[18:45] <alsroot> ..disable in sugar-emulator mode
[18:54] <dipankar> alsroot, ok
[18:55] <dipankar> manusheel, sir, who is handling the alt+tab bug?
[18:55] <dipankar> manusheel, I think mukul is handling it but not sure
[18:55] <manusheel> dipankar: You and Mukul.
[18:56] <manusheel> dipankar: I think there was some major difficulty in understanding it.
[18:57] <dipankar> manusheel, ohk sir, Then I will be sending the e-mail to sugar-devel
[18:57] <manusheel> dipankar: Sure. That would be great.