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| mikhas | heya - just a quick question: can I configure upstart dependencies so that if service A needs a restart, service B is restarted, too? | 18:25 |
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| ion | B: start on started A, stop on stopping A | 18:29 |
| mikhas | hm, will that also work if A crashes? | 18:32 |
| ion | yes | 18:32 |
| mikhas | cool, thanks! | 18:33 |
| mshadle | now that a lot of services are being setup to run via upstart, simple rc.d symlink management like S -> K to stop a service isn't an option. so what -is- the best way to say, not have vsftpd start on boot (without just rm /etc/init/vsftpd.conf or manually editing the file?) | 21:16 |
| mbiebl | mshadle: there is currently no better way than to either remove the file or comment out the "start on" lines | 21:56 |
| mbiebl | this is supposed to be fixed in 0.10 | 21:56 |
| mshadle | how's the change going to be done? | 21:59 |
| mshadle | the other thing is to tell people "hey if you want to use upstart, you need an /etc/default/$daemon file, with $daemon_ENABLED="no" etc. | 21:59 |
| mbiebl | mshadle: afaik the plan is to use "override" files | 22:10 |
| mbiebl | Keybuk can tell you more, when he's around | 22:11 |
| JanC | well, you can make the /etc/default/* option work now | 22:59 |
| ion | Well, there’s really not much of a difference between changing a value in /etc/init/foo.conf and changing a value in /etc/default/foo, except that the latter just splits stuff to two files for no reason. | 23:11 |
| mbiebl | ion: the reasoning behind separate "override" files is, that you can manipulate with say a run level editor | 23:49 |
| mbiebl | and your next package update will not cause a dpkg prompt | 23:49 |
| ion | Yeah, but we were talking about /etc/default/foo with foo_enabled="no", which sounds like /etc/init/foo.conf sourcing /etc/default/foo. | 23:50 |
| JanC | ion: which splits often used options from the main script... ;) | 23:51 |
| JanC | editing or rewriting a script is fine for those who understand them, for others editing a simple config file is safer (and they are safer to edit by GUI tools too) | 23:52 |
| mbiebl | ion: well, yeah, I hate those /etc/default/foo files with foo_enabled=.. | 23:55 |
| mbiebl | for sysv we already have a perfectly working mechanism to enable/disable scripts from being started on boot | 23:56 |
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