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[07:47] <ubottu> bash (source: bash): The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 4.0-5ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 642 kB, installed size 3072 kB
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[07:47] <ubottu> bash (source: bash): The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.2-5ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 565 kB, installed size 1236 kB
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[18:52] <vmlintu> quiet day, it seems like..
[19:16] <sebsebseb> Hi stgraber  just read your comment here and such http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/preview-proposed-edubuntu-installation-slideshow/
[19:17] <sebsebseb> Nice installer slideshow they link to from Johnathon,  sadly it updates itself to quickly, so can't easilly read the text on the screens.
[20:24] <stgraber> sebsebseb: yeah, the one that's used in the installer has a 25s delay instead of the 5s that we have on people.ubuntu.com
[20:24] <sebsebseb> stgraber: ah right
[20:24] <stgraber> the 5s delay was used so we could look at it without spending 5 minutes every time we did a change ;)
[20:25] <sebsebseb> stgraber: oh so the images on the site will get  updated, when there is a change for the installer?
[20:25] <sebsebseb> stgraber: well it looks nicer than the Ubuntu slide show :) and maybe a bit more useful  even
[20:26] <stgraber> highvoltage usually updates it on people.ubuntu.com so we can show it to people without having them run the actual installer, it's usually quite up to date
[20:27] <highvoltage> vmlintu: yeah it's a public holiday in US/CAnada
[20:27] <sebsebseb> stgraber: as for new themes, when I installed edubuntu-desktop into 10.04,  I wasn't keen on it, but I had seen 9.10 and such in the past, and liked that more
[20:27] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: http://jonathancarter.org/how-to-spell-jonathan/
[20:27] <sebsebseb> stgraber: and yeah I haven't tried Edubuntu 10.10 in a vm just yet
[20:28] <highvoltage> the one in the installer has a 75s delay, so it should be quite readable :)
[20:28] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: yeah I had a typo or spelling mistake earlier when mentioning him
[20:28] <stgraber> highvoltage == Jonathan Carter
[20:28] <sebsebseb> stgraber: oh
[20:28] <vmlintu> highvoltage: that explains.. only the hard working one online..
[20:28] <sebsebseb> now I see when I hover over the highvoltage name in my client
[20:29] <highvoltage> heh :)
[20:29] <sebsebseb> I looked through the name list earlier,  when I was going to type something, but  I didn't know what name you used on here
[20:29] <sebsebseb> so  I was looking for a j name, but nope,   no j name for you :D
[20:29]  * highvoltage increases the timeout for people who might want to read more on people.ubuntu.com...
[20:30] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: sounds good to me
[20:30] <sebsebseb> I wanted to read the screens, but  way to quick
[20:31] <alkisg> Heh, good one highvoltage :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU70qAfQAo8
[20:32] <highvoltage> alkisg: Janatawala!
[20:32] <alkisg> jsonathalinoulaki :D
[20:36] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: heh in a way, your webpage about spelling your name
[20:36] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: plus the way you typed it :D
[20:38] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: I had to make that page for a manager I once had who spelt my name wrong in a different way at least a few times a day, and then it just grew from there :)
[20:38] <sebsebseb> oh :D
[20:40] <sebsebseb> So what you guys think of OMGUbuntu?  highvoltage stgraber  and anyone else that might want to answer this that is here
[20:40] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: I've doubled the time on the slides, I don't want to make it too long because what I uploaded was meant to show the slide designs more than the content itself, but it should be more readbale now :)
[20:41] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: stgraber and I talked about that just this morning
[20:41] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: omgubuntu has some nice posts, I follow it in my rss reader
[20:45] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: Still got to read it reasoanbly quick, but thats much better :)
[20:46] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: hrm you mention gbrainy in the installer,  I have had that open a few times, but not so sure how to use it
[20:47] <sebsebseb> as for omgubuntu there is a lot of fanboyism and ignorance on the site from commenters,  but yeah there are some pretty good blog enteries on there, its a good site to follow, to have an idea whats going on with Ubuntu
[20:48] <sebsebseb> as well as for finding out about loads of add on apps, that can be used with Ubuntu, which I am not really that intersted in, but will still read about that
[20:49] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: thats nice though that Edubuntu is being mentioned on there, for a change
[20:50] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: I quite enjoy the stuff about add-on apps, it's nice to know what's out there :)
[20:51] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: well yeah exactly its nice to know what is out there
[20:51] <sebsebseb> even if not going to use it personally
[20:54] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: well it's nice to have you here. welcome to #edubuntu :)
[20:54] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: *nod*
[20:54] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: However they mention a lot of Mono stuff, which gets at certian people.  What do you think about Mono?  Is it a threat of possible patent sueing from Microsoft for example,  for Edubuntu and other distros that have it?  Personally I like Banshee and F-Spot, but would prefer that they were programmed with something more Desktop Linux friendly.
[20:54] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: oh I have been here a few times before in the past
[20:54] <highvoltage> and I agree with you about the commenters
[20:54] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: ah, probably just quiet :)
[20:55] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: nah last time I was here,  was uhmm
[20:55] <sebsebseb> not sure exactly
[20:56] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: a kid can barely do homework these days without infringing on a patent. almost everything is patented, Microsoft even tried to patent the double-click in 2008. I'm over worrying about patents, I'm certainly not going to waste any brain cycles worrying about patents in mono
[20:57] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: is mainly a US thing luckily, but even so, it will effect the rest of the world as well
[20:58] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: I guess if they try to patent sue when it comes to Mono, distros can remove the programs,  and when loads of the users find out,  they will dislike/hate Microsoft even more
[20:59] <sebsebseb> however distros such as Fedora are playing safe, by not including it
[21:01] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: Open Week coming up again soon :)  will there be another session for Edubuntu?
[21:03] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: I guess so, well look forward to that :)
[21:03] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: I'm not sure, it depends on whether there'll be interest
[21:03] <sebsebseb> oh?
[21:04] <sebsebseb> interest from whom?
[21:49] <highvoltage> people who'd want to attend :)
[21:51] <highvoltage> last time there was some more interest than with the previous sessions, and that was nice, but having a classroom session when only 3 or so people are listening in isn't all that fun
[22:51] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: right, but quite a lot of people take part in Open Week, or at least idle in the channel
[23:01] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: and that's why I probably wouldn't do another one if people just want to read. they could just read the old logs then if it's just going to be me blabbering for an hour.
[23:02] <highvoltage> I won't stop anyone else from doing it though, it's just that I think I can spend my time better on ubuntu or edubuntu otherwise
[23:04] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: ah right I see
[23:04] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: and  well yeah the old logs are still up  and quite relivent