[00:00] <BajK> I really preferr Air for netbooks over the default Air with that stupid boxes clutter
[00:03] <James147> hmm, now where was taht option, i remember seeing it once
[00:05] <BajK> i also do, but I can't find it anymore
[00:05] <BajK> it's especially annoying in games, like kpatience if you accidently miss a card, drag and then the window gets un-maximized, or in kbounce wherre you have to draw vertical/horizontal lines, and this does not work with that turned on (but that kbounce bug is fixed imho)
[00:09] <James147> BajK: changing the widget style at System settings > application appearence > style disables it  (showing its a feature of oxygen)  but I can seem to find the option to just off that feature
[00:10] <BajK> ah you're right, I am using qtcurve and I cannot drag windows like that
[00:10] <BajK> (but with Alt key of course)
[00:17] <BajK> ubuntuusers.de still down -.-
[00:18] <BajK> why don't the folders in home dir have an icon?
[00:18] <BajK> such as images, movies, documents, etc
[00:18] <BajK> by default
[00:18] <BajK> I mea, even /media has its own .directory file by default making it look like a hard drive
[00:18] <James147> BajK: you mena a spical icon?
[00:18] <BajK> yes
[00:18] <elijah> In Chrome, when I download a file and then click "Show in Folder", Dolphin opens up but the window does not focus, it just blinks in the task bar. Is there a way I can set it to focus when I click "Show in Folder"?
[00:19] <BajK> there are folder icons with an image, movie symbol, tone etc
[00:19] <BajK> but you have to apply them manually
[00:19] <James147> BajK: not sure, never really cared about it that much :) although I will probally configure them now
[00:19] <BajK> James147:  :D
[00:19] <BajK> Gnome has it^^
[00:19] <James147> elijah: try turning down the focuse stealing prevention settings
[00:20] <BajK> I mean its just 5 .directory files.. one for Music, one for Videos, Documents, Downloads
[00:20] <BajK> Desktop has an icon (:
[00:20] <elijah> James147: Where is that?
[00:21] <James147> elijah: system settings > Window behaviour > Window Behaviour > Focus (on kde 4.5)
[00:21] <elijah> James147: It is set to low and click to focus
[00:23] <elijah> James147: None works, not sure of the side effects but I guess I will find out
[00:23] <James147> elijah:  what happens if you turn it off
[00:24] <James147> elijah: you can always set it per window by alt+f3 > configure window behaviour > window rules  and adding a enw rule for chrome or dolphin
[00:24] <elijah> James147: Wow, gtk!
[00:25] <James147> elijah:  or possibly by enabling the "accept focus" option with the above ^^
[00:25] <James147> (althpough i dont know what that does)
[00:25] <elijah> k
[00:26] <elijah> I am gonna leave it at none for now and see if I have any issues
[00:26] <BajK> James147: is there an updated crystal project version for the newer KDE releases? Because many icons don't work as of different file names
[00:28] <elijah> I have used windows and Mac extensively and now that OpenShot is getting more robust I finally made the switch! 2-3 years of dabbling so far but this is the best experience yet!
[00:28] <James147> BajK: not sure, kde-look.org will have it if there is :)
[00:28] <BajK> they have just the regular version
[00:28] <BajK> i don't like that oxygen icons and theme. I love crystal but it is unusable in kde 4.x
[00:29] <elijah> Is there a way I can get Krunner to index freshly installed packages sooner?
[00:29] <elijah> I have to launch it manually once before it shows, would be nice to install then Krun' it
[00:30] <James147> elijah: index?... running "kbuildsycoca4 --menutest" will rebuild the menu (with any changes) krunner should pickup on that
[00:31] <elijah> James147: I mean, a setting that will be faster, I want to install, alt + f2, type and enter
[00:31] <James147> elijah: dont think there is :S
[00:31] <elijah> James147: K, thx
[00:32] <James147> elijah:  you can always type the full exec name and krunner will pick on that almost stright away
[00:32] <elijah> hmm
[00:33] <elijah> I just installed another one and it seems there is about a 15-120 second delay, so maybe I just need to wait 10 seconds or so, testing now
[00:33] <elijah> I didn't need to launch it first this time!
[00:33] <James147> elijah:  :) yeah, there is a small delay as krunner get notified :)
[00:36] <elijah> K, over 30 seconds but typing exact name is good enough
[00:37] <elijah> Beats trying to figure out where it got put in the kmenu
[00:37] <James147> elijah:  :)
[00:40] <elijah> It also beats installing Gnome DO! Which I was doing earlier!
[00:41] <James147> why would you want gnome do when you have krunner :)
[00:41] <elijah> No kiddin'!
[00:53] <realburb> Hi, is there a way to enlarge the kickoff symbol?
[00:55] <James147> realburb: it should grow as the panels size grows..
[00:56] <realburb> it doesnt anymore, it once did, but that was about a year ago, I tried 4.5 4.5.1 4.4 4.3 ...
[00:56] <realburb> can I somehow gather more information, why it doesnt?
[00:58] <James147> realburb: try creating a new user and see if ti works for them
[00:58] <chaaya> question: why would nautilus (from gnome) keep popping up on CD inserts in KDE?
[00:58] <realburb> enlarging the "Fensterleiste" even more, shows the whole menu within the "Fensterleiste"
[00:59] <realburb> James147 I just installed kubuntu and deleted the old installation, both dont enlarge it
[01:01] <James147> realburb: ... it works here, but only up to a point where is jumps to being smaller again. try making the panel smaller and see what ahppens
[01:02] <realburb> you are right!
[01:02] <realburb> same here
[01:02] <realburb> do I need a larger icon?
[01:02] <James147> realburb: think its a bug, you should file a bug report if there isnt one already
[01:03] <realburb> I thought the new icons were vector based graphics, so scaling would keep them sharp no matter how large you zoom them, was I wrong about that? May this bes the reason, to avoid ugly icons?
[01:05] <James147> realburb: not entirly wrong, but allot of things still use the old png icons as they are allot faster to render and use less resources... although from what i can see I think its just an issue with the widget trying to not take up as much horizontal room when the panel gets too big
[01:08] <chaaya> ha. it was a setting in nautilus itself. sorry :-)
[01:08] <chaaya> however, the prompt that comes up when a dvd is inserted is still a gnome dialog...
[01:12] <realburb> what product should I file the bug against?
[01:12] <realburb> plasma?
[01:12] <James147> realburb: I would say so
[01:19] <realburb> what is the bar "Fensterleiste" called in english?
[01:20] <James147> realburb: .. panel? (the bar at the bottom of the screen)
[01:20] <realburb> yes, thanks
[01:23] <BajK> realburb: Ah, jemand aus Deutschland? :P
[01:24] <realburb> BajK not asleep yet :-D
[01:30] <BajK> realburb: well, more or less :D I can't get my fingers of plasma-netbook :D It's sooooooo god :D
[01:30] <BajK> I want a tablet pc, NOW :D :D
[01:30] <BajK> But I don't know which to buy
[01:30] <BajK> and when there's plasma-mobile I want a mobile with kde :P
[01:31] <realburb> I thought about getting a toshiba ac100 but I definately wont pay 380 €
[01:32] <BajK> what is it in particular?
[01:32] <BajK> Well I need something to take with me for university and stuff
[01:33] <BajK> well gonna play some more freecell and klondike (:
[01:33] <realburb> me too but I need a keyboard
[01:33] <realburb> have fun
[01:34] <BajK> well yes a netbook or something would be nice as well but I dunno... I think Open Office with a pen isn't that much of a great experience, is it^^
[01:35] <BajK> damn.. two drags and “This game is lost.”
[01:39] <realburb> well, I installed maverick and also filed a bug for the first time, thanks for your help n8
[03:16] <hangfeiyue> 111
[03:17] <hangfeiyue> prefrontal [~prefronta@mist.colorado.edu] entered the room.
[03:24] <prefrontal> ...and?
[03:45] <rackIT> can anyone tell me where the icons for the kweather plasmoid are stored in lucid?
[03:58] <maple> rackIT: online?
[03:59] <rackIT> maple: I found them... usr/share/icons/xXx/status
[04:00] <rackIT> 8x8 doesn't have any for Oxygen
[04:00] <maple> rackIT: oh```
[04:01] <maple> rackIT: could you send me your desktop pic to me ?
[04:03] <rackIT> maple: the problem I'm having is the current condition icons don't show up in the plasmoid nor do they for the kweather in the system tray.
[04:04] <rackIT> maple: all of the icons appear to be there in the above referenced directory though
[04:04] <cykeo666> can any1 help me to get my sound working through the internet?
[04:08] <maple> rackIT: i think the kweathe should be appear in your destop
[04:08] <maple> rackIT: i think the kweathe should be appear in your desktop
[04:09] <maple> rackIT: but not in the system tray
[04:13] <rackIT> maple: you can add it as a widget to any containment. you also have the option of showing it in the system tray. The problem is the same regardless of where I view it though.
[04:26] <maple> rackIT: sorry! i don't know how to expression
[04:38] <cykeo666> gahhhhh y wont my audio to work over the internet
[04:59] <cykeo666> hey does anyone know y i cant hear audio over the internet but i hear it fine in the amarok program?
[05:05] <cykeo666> hey does anyone know y i cant hear audio over the internet but i hear it fine in the amarok program?
[05:06] <cykeo666> grrrrr i wanna watch bleach some1 help!!!!!
[05:06] <cykeo666> plezzzzz imma newbie help me
[05:11] <cykeo666> so no1 wants to help the newbie huh
[05:14] <cykeo666> guess not ill just go to the corner now
[05:17] <rackIT> cykeo666: open kmixer and fiddle with the sliders
[05:30] <cykeo666> ty for all the hell u guys are awesome and down with windows FREE Computing for life!!!!
[05:32] <v3nd3tta``> why does my sytem clock the cpu down to 1000 mhz if t hasn't much cpu usage? a feature not to overheat?
[05:32] <cykeo666> u got a single core duo or quad?
[05:33] <v3nd3tta``> single core amd
[05:33] <v3nd3tta``> CPU[-Single core AMD Athlon LE-1600 (UP) clocked at 1000.000 Mhz-]
[05:34] <cykeo666> idk could be for overheating percausion or somin could be wrong with it
[05:35] <v3nd3tta``> -.- nevermind
[05:35] <cykeo666> i got a Athlon 64 n its going strong for the most part havnt seen it go below its set 2.4
[05:35] <v3nd3tta``> but the world isn't windows-free yet :/
[05:36] <cykeo666> yeh but it will be if every one moves over to linux
[05:37] <v3nd3tta``> and what is off the mac users?
[05:38] <cykeo666> mac users r arses already 4 buying an overpriced unupgradeable computer to begin with
[05:38] <v3nd3tta``> :P you see? it will never give a single system dominating. even if there would be a law about that the people would develop further
[05:38] <v3nd3tta``> yeah, that's the truth :P better throw a good linux distribution on that machine
[05:40]  * v3nd3tta`` has to get ready for school :/ sux
[05:40] <cykeo666> yeh i made this computer about 5 years ago on newegg n the xp system builder disk wont reinstall so i said ill try ubuntu n im lovin it just like a fat kid at mcdonalds
[05:41] <v3nd3tta``> :D you knew how good i felt when i formatted my windows ntfp partitions with kubuntu?
[05:41] <v3nd3tta``> ntfs*
[05:42] <cykeo666> not as good as sex i know that for sure
[05:44] <v3nd3tta``> uuh idk... pure sex without love a girl (a one night stand or a whore) is bad
[05:45] <cykeo666> well i got a women i love to my very bone n that kind of sex is the best
[05:46] <v3nd3tta``> well, i guess that belongs into #kubuntu-offtopic :P
[05:46] <maco> it doesnt even belong there
[05:46] <v3nd3tta``> have a nice day, i now really have to get to school
[05:46] <maco> child-appropriate chatter only in all *buntu channels
[05:47] <cykeo666> yeh guess so i already got slapped with a ! COC message again but not like i care ppl gotta learn i speak my mind no matter where im at guess its how i was rasied
[05:47] <cykeo666> what child has kubuntu on their computer to begin with tho?
[05:48] <v3n``school> wannabe geeks or super genies
[05:49]  * v3n``school brb
[05:50] <cykeo666> well u ask me a kid thats that smart to install kubuntu deserves to know his way around a chicks nether regions.
[05:59] <maco> ugh
[05:59] <maco> my 8 year old cousin uses edubuntu
[06:01] <maco> and why the heck assume a kid using linux is a guy anyway?
[06:50] <Guest95495> kubuntu 9.10 menu editor set application short cut failed,is it a bug?
[06:50] <Guest95495> but In kubuntu 9.04 ,it's ok
[07:50] <Chr|s> Hi folks, I want to try out Kubuntu, how can I try it out if I already have ubuntu installed? And if I don't like it or not is it easily removable?
[08:02] <Rintrox> I just upgraded to KDE 4.5
[08:02] <Rintrox> it's great for everything, but, DAMN, konsole has changed behavior!!
[08:03] <Rintrox> tabs are ENORMOUS and of fixed size
[08:03] <Rintrox> anybody knows how to solve this problem?
[08:03] <Rintrox> I've a *lot* of tabs because I need a lot of open shells
[08:11] <Rintrox> mmm it seems I'm not the only one having this problem: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166573
[08:12] <vinnie_> can someone please tell me how to move my kicker, task manager and system tray to the top of my screen?
[08:14] <Rintrox> vinnie: click on the right of the taskbar, where do you have that plasma icon
[08:14] <Rintrox> then move the bar where you prefer
[08:18] <vinnie_> Rintrox: ok.. that worked, but now i have 2 widget tool box icons at top right. how can i move the one that is normaly at top right?
[08:18] <jaem> I'm trying to get KDE apps to trust an SSL cert used on my Jabber server.  My understanding was that I had to use Kleopatra to import it.  Is that correct?
[08:18] <Rintrox> vinnie: all movement are done when "expanding" the panel pressing the plasma icon
[08:19] <vinnie_> Rintrox: thanks... gotit
[08:34] <cykeo666> there any suggestions for a dvd burning program?
[08:35] <Belgy> k3b ?
[08:35] <cykeo666> ty 4 the newbie help
[08:36] <Belgy> no problem ;)
[08:37] <cykeo666> i wonder if every1 that uses linux is nice ive been getting so much help l8ly n its all been so help full
[08:37] <cykeo666> n free too lol
[08:40] <jaem> cykeo666: Not everyone is, but certainly lots of people are glad to help.
[08:40] <cykeo666> so with K3b you have to have the vob files well if i have a bunch of mp4 from my video camera n i want to put them on a dvd to play off my dvd player what should i use?
[08:41] <jaem> cykeo666: I've never actually done that (since I don't own a stand-alone DVD player).  Did you check if KDE Userbase has a tutorial?
[08:42] <cykeo666> never even heard of it my computer wouldnt let me reinstall xp so i tried a dell vista install disc n it worked but then when it said i had to activate i was at a loss so i installed kubuntu cuz i still had a live disc of it.
[08:43] <jaem> Heh.  I just checked, and it doesn't
[08:43] <cykeo666> well darn ill google it n see what i can come up with
[08:43] <jaem> For future reference, KDE Userbase (userbase.kde.org) is a wiki that aims to provide user documentation and tutorials for KDE software (such as K3b)
[08:44] <cykeo666> ill definately set a bookmark for that
[08:44] <jaem> cykeo666: have you tried selecting File->New Project->New Video DVD Project?
[08:46] <cykeo666> yeh but it has the dvd set-up n when i select the videos i want on the disc it just puts them into the root directory
[08:46] <cykeo666> of the disc
[08:47] <jaem> I'm not quite sure what you mean.  Do you know how to use the Pastebin widget?
[08:48] <cykeo666> no
[08:49] <cykeo666> im basicly looking for a converting then burning i guess
[08:49] <jaem> cykeo666: Can you add the Pastebin widget to your desktop somewhere? (Right-click on desktop, click "Add Widget", search for "Pastebin" (not "paste"), and drag to the deskopt)
[08:50] <jaem> cykeo666: Yeah, sorry, I just can't picture what you're doing. This widget will let you send me a screenshot
[08:53] <jaem> cykeo666: If you're trying what I'm suggesting, please let me know when you're done. ;)
[08:54] <cykeo666> yeh i got the pastebin widget on my desktop
[08:54] <jaem> Alright.  Can you go to wherever you were in K3b, then press the "Print Screen" (or "Prt Scr") button on your keyboard?
[08:55] <jaem> Make sure there isn't anything private visible on the screen, as it will be snapshotting the screen.
[08:55] <cykeo666> im dragging the screen shot
[08:55] <jaem> When the KSnapshot window pops up, drag the thumbnail preview of the picture it just took onto the Pastebin widget
[08:55] <jaem> Then paste the link it gives you into the chat
[08:59] <cykeo666> http://imagebin.ca/view/fSAd1JUO.html
[08:59] <cykeo666> sorry need more ram only got a gig :'(
[08:59] <jaem> :(
[09:02] <cykeo666> my girlfriend is listening to you chevelle lol
[09:02] <jaem> hmm?
[09:03] <cykeo666> no clue?
[09:03] <jaem> I'm waiting on the screenshot...
[09:03] <jaem> Oh
[09:03]  * jaem slaps himself with a fish
[09:03] <cykeo666> yeh the link is in there
[09:03] <jaem> Ah, I see
[09:03] <jaem> Did you try just dragging the video into the VIDEO_TS folder?
[09:04] <jaem> I really don't know how to do this myself - as I said, I've never tried
[09:04] <jaem> Why don't you ask in #k3b ?
[09:05] <cykeo666> i have forgotten how to use irc chat to tell u the truth
[09:06] <jaem> cykeo666: "/join #k3b"
[10:00] <Pooh22> ever since I upgraded my kubuntu to 10.04 with kde 4.5.x from the backports ppa, I get full-blown system hangs
[10:00] <Pooh22> I suspect it's related to amarok
[10:01] <Pooh22> is this a known issue? google isn't finding anything for me now...
[10:04] <Pooh22> oh, perhaps it is known:
[10:04] <Pooh22> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/599660
[10:05] <Pooh22> this is now still a problem, but I'm running 4.5.1-isch I think
[10:08] <riker> off-topic, can somebody msg me about a math question? In trigonometry.
[10:11] <joona> Hey, anyone know how to change plasma themes?
[10:16] <hsr> Hello
[10:23] <joona> hsr: Hi
[10:39] <hsr> Hello! How to enable moodbar in Amarok
[10:47] <hsr> What should firefox use foe apt content?
[10:59] <sheytan> joona system settings->Workspace appearence->desktop theme ;)
[11:12] <hinkman> hi
[11:13] <hinkman> i've got a problem when upgrading from 4.5.0 to 4.5.1 on lucid. postinstall of virtuoso-opensource-6.1 locks
[11:14] <hinkman> only killing the command "isql-vt $DB_PORT dba dba -K &>/dev/null" helps
[11:14] <hinkman> i think it is related to updating the admin password for virtuoso dab and dav
[12:21] <phloog> Hi all, I got some troubles with dualhead X using the radeon opensource driver since kernel 2.6.32; in 2.6.31, I was able to set up my dualscreen w/ xrandr ..foo.. --left-of ...bar... without problems; now, if I do that, both screens get completely garbled (nothing readable anymore, albeit mouse pointer still visible). I googled around a bit, but found nothing resembling my sit. Has someone a hint what I could try next?
[12:21] <phloog> (I also tried the experimental gallium3d driver, same behaviour (!) )
[12:22] <phloog> and further info, clone screen works w/out problems. just not --left-of or --right-of
[12:24] <phloog> and, to whom it concerns, here my xrandr -q output:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/489187/
[12:44] <skramer_> I have a problem with the desktop search: I can not start Strigi indexer after today Virtuoso was upgraded to 6.1.2
[12:44] <skramer_> any hint how I could get the desktop search to wrok again?
[12:51] <FlashDeluxe> hi i have a question, i want to have a german keyboard layout in xterm, but if i execute the command "setxkbmap de nodeadkeys" i get "error loading new keyboard description" so i try to configure it in a config file, but i don`t really know where to change it, can anybody help me please? =)
[13:05] <BajK> FlashDeluxe: why not configure using systemsettings?
[13:05] <BajK> FlashDeluxe: Immer diese Leute mit ihrer Konsole *g*
[13:05] <FlashDeluxe> BajK: Es gibt keine GUI und auch keine Möglichkeit für ne Gui ;)
[13:06] <BajK> FlashDeluxe: ah, xterm, mein Fehler :)
[13:06] <FlashDeluxe> Bajk: Ja xterm...macht mich wahnsinnig^^
[13:06] <BajK> Kaum ist ubuntuusers.de mal down, ist man hilflos ^^
[13:07] <FlashDeluxe> ja so ist das leider^^
[13:07] <FlashDeluxe> hast du denn vll ne idee was man da machen kann?
[13:08] <BajK> uff, kp, bei mir funktioniert *g*
[13:08] <FlashDeluxe> weißt du denn vll in welcher config das eingestellt wird und _wo_ die liegt?
[13:08] <BajK> uff, kp, also bei google find ich überall nur immer dassmer in der xorg.conf rumpfuschen soll
[13:09] <FlashDeluxe> ja das find ich auch, aber da ist der entsprechende eintrag nicht drin
[13:09] <BajK> anlegen? (:
[13:09] <BajK> standardmäßig is die afaik ab 9.10 leer
[13:10] <BajK> FlashDeluxe: habs dir in query geschriebne
[13:10] <FlashDeluxe> jo
[13:11] <BajK> und wenn die xorg verschießt, ab 10.04 hast nette failsafe-möglichkeiten, also er bietet dir dann an, die xorg wiederherzustellen, zu editieren oder sonstwas, im falle, dass der xserver net startet, dass net einfach an der konsole rauskommst
[13:12] <FlashDeluxe> ja das ist mir egal, wenn ich mist baue und das ding startet nicht mehr installier ihs neu, das isn nxclient auf nem windows system
[13:13] <bazhang> !de
[13:13] <FlashDeluxe> ups, sorry^^
[13:13] <imom0_> 看不懂德语啊。
[13:15] <BajK> sorry :D
[13:19] <bazhang> !cn | imom0_
[13:30] <sia> hello to all
[13:32] <skramer_> under Systemsettings, I tried activating Strigi Indexer. I can apply, but when I leave the Desktop Search part of Systemsettings & go back, Strigi Indexer is unchecked again. I just lost the Desktop Search after today Virtuoso got upgraded to 6.1.2, anybody could help me get the Desktop Search back to work, please?
[13:41] <BajK> What's that problem with wine? Always when I launch it it says "Updating configuration ~/.wine blah", then Internet Explorer 6 pops up stating "the page cannot be displayed" and Regsvr in its address bar, after closing it, the program desired normally starts
[13:43] <BluesKaj> 'Happy Labour Day' folks
[13:49] <James147> BajK: how are you launching wine?
[13:50] <BajK> James147: wine <app name>
[13:50] <BajK> or via desktop file, but that doesnt matter where/when
[13:50] <BajK> its just the first launch (after pc restart or wineboot)
[13:51] <James147> BajK: what happens if you run "winecfg"
[13:52] <BajK> Updating configuration of ~/.wine ......
[13:52] <BajK> internet explorer cannot find server
[13:52] <BajK> closing internet explorer
[13:52] <BajK> and wine-configuration dialog opens
[13:52] <BajK> now i ran winecfg again and it instantly appeard
[13:52] <James147> BajK: what programs do you have installed in wine?
[13:53] <BajK> internet explorer 6 :D
[13:53] <BajK> ehm, .net runtime things
[13:53] <BajK> Steam
[13:53] <BajK> Sims 3
[13:53] <BajK> UT 2004, UT99,
[13:53] <FloodBotK1> BajK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <BajK> jaja isch ja gut :D
[13:54] <James147> :S well, I would try it with a new user (or rename .wine (note that .wine is where wine installs its programs rename it back to restore them))
[13:56] <BajK> James147: ehm, concerning netbook shell: i removed ALL the pages/newspaper thingies and how do I add a new one?
[13:56] <James147> (Note also that you can launch wine with "env WINEPREFIX=path/to/wine/prefix wine PROGRAM" to launch wine with a spific prefix (it defaults to .wine)
[13:57] <James147> BajK: fairly sure you cant remove them ALL...
[13:57] <BajK> I did?
[13:57] <BajK> there's just "Search and run" left
[13:57] <James147> BajK: what do you have currently on the desktop?
[13:57] <James147> BajK: :) then thats not all of them :D
[13:57] <BajK> but that additional "pages" entitled things
[13:57] <BajK> how do I add another activity/page?
[13:58] <James147> BajK: as far as I can remember you cannot add pages form teh saerch and launch... not sure why... but if you configure it and change the activity type to another one you should be albe to readd more
[13:58] <BajK> hm that sucks^^
[13:58] <skramer_> anybody noticed that Desktop Search stopped working after Virtuoso got upraded to 6.1.2 and Soprano to 2.5.0? any "tricks" how to get it to work again?
[13:59] <James147> BajK: also, for better wine support you might want to consider joining #winehq
[13:59] <BajK> James147: thx
[13:59] <BajK> James147: and I cannot click any object on the control panel while it's unlocked (i always end up moving widgets), and I cannot click any object on the activity while it is unlocked..
[14:01] <James147> BajK: you should be able to click on widget while the panel is unlocked... but not when the panels settings are open (thats when you can move the widgets, and the only time you can)
[14:01] <James147> BajK: not sure about the page
[14:02] <James147> BajK: but generally I think when unlocked you are expected to configure the page not use it :)
[14:03] <James147> skramer_: you can try it on a new user, if it works for them then its probally a configuation problem inyour home directory
[14:06] <skramer_> James147: ok, I will try.
[14:11] <BajK> What's the difference between "normal copy" and "clone copy" in k3b?
[14:12] <BajK> I want to create an iso of a cdrom
[14:12] <bazhang> BajK, k9copy then
[14:12] <bazhang> BajK, or handbrake
[14:12] <skramer_> James147: you're right, I can start Strigi without problems under new user account
[14:14] <BajK> hm I hope they overhaul k3b's interface, so it takes advantage of knotify instead of having its own ugly overlay
[14:14] <James147> skramer_: then I would say there is a problem with your configs :)  I would start by renaming ~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk   NOTE: this contains nepomuks database and everything you have stored in it
[14:16] <James147> BajK: not sure what the differnece is... but if i remember right k3b has an "create iso" option on the burn page (when you try to burn something)
[14:16] <BajK> James147: yes it offers you to just copy and burn, create an temporary iso and leave that, or just create an iso
[14:16] <dan_l> I've done it!  I have exercized the demons from my new laptop!
[14:17] <skramer_> James147: it works, thank you!
[14:18] <dan_l> Now, does anybody which menu will let me dump the blue glow around active windows?
[14:18] <BajK> dan_l: in oxygen?
[14:18] <dan_l> yes.  IN a default install.
[14:18] <BajK> Systemsettings -> workspace appearance -> window decoration -> configure decoration
[14:19] <dan_l> I just want to dump the blue glow and the window transparency when I move it
[14:19] <BajK> and there shadow
[14:19] <BajK> untick that "Glow for active window"
[14:19] <dan_l> Thsoe are two features effects which make me punch my computer in it's face.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> dan_l, good to hear ...so what method did you use to fix things ?
[14:19] <dan_l> errr, under which menu?
[14:19] <BajK> dan_l: I recommend you just dump that ugly oxygen and use a nicer theme (:
[14:19] <dan_l> BluesKaj:  You wouldn't believe the stuff I went through.
[14:19] <skramer_> another question: I would like to switch between the tabs in a window by just moving the mouse over next tab, no click. Is that possible & where can I set it up?
[14:20] <BajK> BajK: look in "get new decorations" and search for ambiance or aero ambiance, those look nice in kde 4.5^^
[14:20] <BajK> skramer_: don't think that is possibel
[14:20] <BajK> you mean that window tabbing?=
[14:20] <dan_l> Skramer, yes.  I totally forgot how I did it.  Will you be around in a while?
[14:20] <James147> BajK: I quite like the new oxygen style :) at least with a few tweks:)
[14:20] <dan_l> I did it with v 7 for my daughter.
[14:20] <dan_l> I switch oxygen to the 'darker' style
[14:21] <BajK> James147: at least that default behaviour of having two separators between close and maximize .. and it looks just baaad.. I think many people'd preferr KDE but then they see screenshots of a standard installation and just think yuck
[14:21] <dan_l> (my daughter is only 2 and a half.  She can't click yet.  But we practice with the mouse, so I found a way to let her watch her elmoz and dora on the nets
[14:22] <dan_l> there either is or was a "hover" juxtaposed against click action.
[14:22] <skramer_> dan_l: no, I'll have to leave in a minute... do you remember how you got it to work like that?
[14:22] <dan_l> skramer:  not off the top of my head.  I'm around here quite a bit though.  Drop by and ping me.
[14:23]  * BluesKaj likes the oxygen theme in kde4.5, but there don';t seem to be many options
[14:24] <dan_l> blueskaj:  try the darker variation.  It really is nice.
[14:24] <James147> BluesKaj: it has more then in previous versions :)
[14:24] <James147> dan_l: what do you mean by that? oxygen uses your system colours so you just need to change that
[14:25] <BluesKaj> I like the norway look , but my background is sacandinavian , so I come by it honestly :)
[14:25] <BluesKaj> err scandi....
[14:26]  * James147 has had a very nice dark oxygen windows for ages useing the default colour schemes... he uses "Obsidian Coast" and cannot find one he likes more 
[14:26] <BluesKaj> wow ...too hard on  these old eyes
[14:27] <James147> BluesKaj: I find its less bright, and I read light on dark text better
[14:27] <BluesKaj> I even use dark on light background in the terminal
[14:29] <dan_l> Terminal:  white on blue
[14:29] <dan_l> I'm old skool like that
[14:47] <BajK> James147: Oh no, i hate light on black background. it makes my eyes hurt
[14:47] <BajK> BluesKaj: same goes here, first thing when installing kde, changing konsole's color sheme :)
[15:07] <toxa> I have installed Maverick. It is almost stable
[15:12] <mudassar_> hello people plz somebody help me writing a testbench in C for vhdl using FLI
[15:13] <Pici> mudassar_: Er, This is #kubuntu, a more programming specific channel would be the best place to ask.
[15:14] <mudassar_> how can I find and join some channel related to C, VHDL and FLI (layer between C and VHDL)
[15:15] <v3nd3tta``>  try ##c
[15:15] <Pici> mudassar_: I'd start in ##C , but you'll need to register/identify to join
[15:15] <v3nd3tta``> but you have to have an irc freenode account
[15:15] <Pici> !register  | mudassar_
[15:16] <mudassar_> but purely C people will not be knowing about my problems
[15:16] <James147> mudassar_: ##c dosnt mean pure c.. just people who use it..
[15:17] <James147> its will be at the very least a good place to start
[15:17] <Pici> Better than #kubuntu :)
[15:18] <mudassar_> i have clicked on join and typed #c there ....... but nothing came
[15:18] <James147> ##c
[15:18] <James147> although #c should take you there, have you registered?
[15:18] <mudassar_> how to register ?
[15:18] <mudassar_> sorry I m not good in irc
[15:18] <James147> see ubottu's message
[15:20] <mudassar_> nothing happens
[15:20] <lukaszek20> hello
[15:20] <mariano> ciao
[15:20] <James147> Mudassar: when you type what?
[15:21] <James147> (something happened :) )
[15:21] <James147> Mudassar: but chaning your nick isnt registering it, see the link in ubottu's message for howto actualy register it
[15:23] <mariano> Qualche Italiano?
[15:23] <James147> !it | Mudassar
[15:23] <James147> mariano: sorry ^^
[15:23] <v3nd3tta``> Mudassar you can register about /msg NickServ register <email> <password>
[15:24] <Mudassar> where should I type this ?
[15:24] <v3nd3tta``> everything what begins with a "/" is interpreted as command
[15:24] <v3nd3tta``> so just type it in chat line
[15:25] <v3nd3tta``> sorry
[15:25] <v3nd3tta``> i swapped <password> and <email>
[15:25] <Mudassar> ok I have given that command with params, but no output message is shown to me
[15:25] <v3nd3tta``>    /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com
[15:25] <v3nd3tta``> which woulöd bar
[15:25] <v3nd3tta``> at your pawwword
[15:26] <v3nd3tta``> arg
[15:26] <v3nd3tta``> wtf
[15:26] <v3nd3tta``> can't type sry
[15:26] <v3nd3tta``> if you would type that your account would be Mudassar, your password would be "bar" and your email the one you specified
[15:26] <Mudassar> sorry I m layman in it :) doing .......
[15:26] <v3nd3tta``> :D
[15:27] <v3nd3tta``> and then confirm the registration via email
[15:30] <Mudassar> ok I have verified my email ... .now I need to join the channel vhdl
[15:33] <Mudassar> it says that you should be invited in the channel
[15:33] <Mudassar> how to get the invitation ?
[15:33] <Pici> Its ##C not #c
[15:33] <Mudassar> I am trying to join vhdl channel
[15:33] <James147> Pici: although ##c takes you to ##C
[15:34] <Mudassar> yes i have joined ##c
[15:35] <Mudassar> thank you kubuntu people .... kubuntu 10.04 is great...
[15:36] <Mudassar> I wish people come to use kubuntu 10.04 and leave the virus hell (MS Windows)
[15:36] <v3nd3tta``> haha
[15:36] <v3nd3tta``> virus hell?
[15:37] <v3nd3tta``> it's a hell of Trojan's Worms Spyware Backdoor Trojans, simple infected System Cores
[15:37] <v3nd3tta``> and some backdoors which are programmed by ns
[15:37] <v3nd3tta``> ms
[15:38] <BajK> what is the arrow for at the "shutdown" button?
[15:38] <BajK> there is a little arrow on the button
[15:38] <BajK> but neither clicking it long or dragging makes a menu apear
[15:43] <Mamarok> BajK: it does here, and gives you a choice to either suspend to ram or suspend to disk
[15:44] <Mamarok> instead of shutting down
[15:44] <Mamarok> just click on the arrow, no need to drag or click long
[15:45] <BajK> well I clicked on that arrow and the computer shut down
[15:46] <James147> BajK: its press and hold to get the menu
[15:46] <James147> and might only appear if kde thinks your computer can sleep/hybernate
[15:47] <BajK> If I press and hold, then the countdown just restarts and/or switches to "Shutting down in 30" instead of for example "Log off in 30 seconds"
[15:47]  * James147 wishes the arrow on the restart would come back... that was a useful feature even though it didnt quite work :)
[15:47] <BajK> ah ok, if I press and hold it offers Suspend to disk
[15:48] <BajK> it takes 12 seconds from start to fully loaded desktop :O wow
[15:48] <James147> BajK: from cold boot?
[15:49] <BajK> yes
[15:49] <BajK> why doesn't krunner work in netbook shellß
[15:49] <v3nd3tta``> because it is about X
[15:49] <James147> :) thay have been trying to improve boot speed as much as they can in the past couple releases... shame mine is still slowish (alhtough faster then windows)
[15:49] <v3nd3tta``> ????
[15:49] <noaXess> sometimes a machin with latest kubuntu 10.04 don't boot exactly and i need to CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot and then alle goes ok.. any idea tip?
[15:50] <James147> BajK: it does work
[15:50] <BajK> I am not mistaken that I cannot minimize windows in netbook shell (ok there is no window bar^^)
[15:50] <noaXess> hey BajK, wasup?
[15:50] <James147> BajK: although on my netbook (running maverick) for somereason its not started
[15:50] <BajK> James147: it seems to not be started automatically?
[15:50] <BajK> ah
[15:51] <James147> BajK: and you can minimise windows as well, then alt+tab to get them back
[15:51] <BajK> what I noticed in Kuuntu 10.04's installer is, that when it is coyping files, that slideshow appears and you can minimize it
[15:51] <BajK> if you do
[15:51] <BajK> the window disappears
[15:51] <BajK> if you press alt+tab it states "No windows"
[15:51] <BajK> in 10.10 we thankfully have a fllscreen installer
[15:52] <James147> BajK: the netbook shell is just a different desktop, you can do everything you can on the normal desktop
[15:52] <James147> BajK: hmm, it shouldnt do that :s
[15:52] <BajK> what I find really annoying, any other application theme than oxygen looks just bad on netbook shell but in oxygen you cannot disable that "move in empty area of space" which should be disabled automatically in netbook
[15:52] <James147> you sure you didnt close it?
[15:53] <BajK> James147: yes I am, i often tested that
[15:53] <BajK> hm ah it seems that just by default in netbook shell that minimize button is removed from titlebar, you can add it back
[15:54] <James147> BajK: have you tryed every theme? I quit liked bespin for a while before switching abck to oxygen :)
[15:55] <BajK> James147: i really like qtcurve, as you can customize it any way you like. I like that "3d looking" toolbars
[15:55] <BajK> but I was just too lazy installing it on 10.10 for now ;)
[15:55] <BajK> and it seems plymouth is not working in 10.10 beta
[15:55] <BajK> I always get stuck with that Ubuntu 10.10 text splash
[15:55] <BajK> in alfa 3 I got the kubuntu start screen
[15:55] <noaXess> what's that.. the machine stops booting at the Kubuntu splash screen.. need help.. why that?
[15:56] <BajK> noaXess: I have the same problem here sometimes
[15:56] <James147> BajK: well it is still in beta so expect something to break :) but see #ubuntu+1 for support on maverick
[15:56] <BajK> press Alt+SysRQ+K and then Strg+Alt+F8 to get back to xserver
[15:56] <noaXess> BajK: and no solution? normally i can reboot with CTRL+ALT+DEL.. but it won't
[15:56] <noaXess> SysRQ???
[15:56] <BajK> noaXess: its plymouth sometimes not giving control to the xserver
[15:56] <BajK> noaXess: yes?
[15:56] <BajK> noaXess: first assignment on PrintScreen key
[15:57] <noaXess> what is SysRQ
[15:57] <noaXess> aha
[15:57] <BajK> System request
[15:57] <BajK> provides you with keyboard shortcuts to rescue a hanging system
[15:57] <BajK> you might try Strg+Alt+F7 or F8 to switch to the xsever manually
[15:57] <BajK> didn't try though
[15:57] <noaXess> BajK: ok.. your solution work.. but.. where is the fix?
[15:57] <BajK> noaXess: symptoms are that you start kubuntu normally, and at the moment where the Xserver is normally starting (where tha flashing dots disappear) just nothing happens anymore
[15:58] <noaXess> have pressen ALT+SYSRQ+K and the CTRL+ALT+F8
[15:58] <noaXess> BajK: yes.. nothing..
[15:58] <BajK> noaXess: in my case then it says "Ubuntu is running in low video mode", I choose "restart x server" and then it works fine
[15:58] <BajK> but it sucks though^^
[15:58] <BajK> noaXess: you might consider posting a bug report
[15:58] <noaXess> BajK: in my case, nothing comes up no informatio.. just kubuntu logo and the dot's
[15:59] <BajK> noaXess: yes, it just stops and nothing happens anymore
[15:59] <noaXess> BajK: searching for en existing bug, but what to search.. it's not handy..
[15:59] <BajK> noaXess: where are you posting? (I only post in kde bugs, but I dont know where to post kubuntu bugs)
[16:00] <noaXess> BajK: on launchpad.. normaly
[16:00] <noaXess> do you have a nvidia card?
[16:00] <James147> BajK: you really should see #ubuntu+1 with that problem
[16:00] <BajK> ah right, I just forgot my account information :D
[16:00] <BajK> noaXess: yes
[16:00] <BajK> James147: with which problem?
[16:00] <noaXess> BajK:  it seams be a problem with nvidia
[16:00] <BajK> that starting problem?
[16:00] <noaXess> BajK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9441046
[16:00] <BajK> noaXess: might be
[16:00] <James147> BajK: any problem you ahve with maverick
[16:00] <BajK> ah
[16:01] <BajK> kay
[16:01] <BajK> proprietary drivers suck, I want the nuhwo (nouveau) driver to support 3d NOW :D
[16:01] <noaXess> i use the nvidia-current driver..
[16:01] <BajK> from nvidia.com or repos?
[16:01] <noaXess> repos
[16:01] <BajK> this is why I left my mom with the open source driver, as I don't want her to encounter any trouble
[16:01] <BajK> and she just surfs the net, chatting, email
[16:02] <noaXess> BajK: so, there you use the nv driver?
[16:02] <BajK> I just didn't any changes
[16:02] <BajK> I am even not really shure which graphcis card is in her pc
[16:02] <BajK> I think an old ATI
[16:02] <James147> noaXess: the nv drivers arent really used anymore :)
[16:02] <noaXess> BajK: look at this.. just reading it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/53852
[16:02] <James147> at elast on kubuntu
[16:03] <BajK> noaXess: ?
[16:03] <noaXess> he wrong description for this bug.. we need to learn ubottu ;)
[16:03] <noaXess> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/538524
[16:03] <BajK> noaXess: the link you posted leads to the topic ubottu said
[16:03] <BajK> ah
[16:03] <noaXess> better.. my fault
[16:03] <noaXess> sorry.. ;)
[16:03] <noaXess> :p
[16:03] <James147> ubottu is never wrong :)
[16:04] <BajK> ah ok good to know we aren't the only people facing that problem^^
[16:04] <v3nd3tta``> hmm
[16:04] <v3nd3tta``> my amarok quits suddenly
[16:04] <v3nd3tta``> at the end of the song it quits apruptly
[16:05] <noaXess> BajK: yes.. we are nt alone on the whole earth.. galaxy ;).. /me thinking liunx is used in galaxy more then other OS's
[16:05] <noaXess> linux ^
[16:05] <BajK> Is there a more intuitive way of configuring samba networks? If I want to share files using Samba, the checkbox for sharing is greyed out, I have to install samba and THEN it works. Can't just KDE offer me to install those packages? Also if I have not set all permissions to the folder I cannot write into it via network even though it is set to "full access". KDE should warn or ask me to set permissions
[16:05] <noaXess> what happends, if i set nomodeset on kernel boot?
[16:06] <noaXess> BajK: normally i configure samba shares directly in the config files..
[16:06] <James147> BajK: bah, kde has no good gui for configuing samba, its one of the things on the long todo list :)
[16:06] <BajK> man, that is the reason why people still think linux is just console working
[16:07] <BajK> I want to configure sharing just like in windows, right click, share, tick yes, full access, OK and we're done
[16:07] <BajK> and it indeed works, if you beforehand installed samba
[16:07] <BajK> then it's just fine
[16:07] <BajK> apropos todo list, I'll look at the 4.6 todo list
[16:07] <James147> BajK: so do allot of people :) just on one has decided they are going to write a nice gui for it... its one of the problems with opensource stuff
[16:08] <BajK> I'd like but I am too stupid for that :D
[16:08] <hadj> Speaking of gui's...just installed Kubuntu, was messing around with Plasma, and accidentally deleted my entire desktop!  Any idea how to restore the default desktop?
[16:08] <BajK> lol
[16:08] <BajK> is plasma crashed?
[16:08] <hadj> It did,  Rebooted
[16:08] <James147> hadj: alt+F2: plasma-desktop       if plasma crashed
[16:08] <BajK> Let's have look if KDE 4.6 has also a "welcome plasmoid" on its todolist
[16:08] <BajK> as did KDE 4.5
[16:09] <BajK> and 4.4 and 4.3 and 4.2 :D
[16:09] <BajK> what is libtaskmanager for? it says "Support for Windows 7 like launchers"
[16:09] <James147> BajK: I take it someone thourhg tit was a good idea, but no one can bebothered to write one :)
[16:09] <hadj> james: thx.  I am able to get the alt+F2 dialog via right-click "run command..."
[16:10] <James147> BajK: looks like a library :)
[16:11] <hadj> All that is there is my desktop wallpaper now...I can create containers (or whatever they're called) but I have no idea how to get all the goodies back to the way they were...
[16:11] <BajK> best todo list entry ever made: in Kde 4.3 plasma: "icon plasmoid - make it suck less" :D
[16:11] <slow-motion> hi
[16:11] <hadj> ...I guess I could just hack at it but I was hoping there was a .conf file (or something) that I could restore
[16:11] <James147> hadj: if you want to reset plamsa to its default settings rename/remove ~/.kde/share/config/plamsa*
[16:12] <hadj> james: will try that
[16:12] <James147> (not that plasma* means all file begining with plasma)
[16:12] <BajK> hadj: ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma-desktop/activities
[16:12] <James147> note ^^
[16:12] <BajK> there it shjould be
[16:12] <James147> then restart plasma-desktop (alt+f2: killall plasma-desktop; sleep 2; plasma-desktop)
[16:12] <BajK> Is there a reason for plasma constantly creating new activities?
[16:12] <BajK> I just want ONE actiitsy
[16:12] <BajK> now I looked and again there are two "unnamed" unconfigured ones
[16:12] <James147> BajK: it dosnt here
[16:13] <BajK> then you've lost all your plasmoids/settings :)
[16:13] <hadj> thx BajK will try those ideas
[16:14] <BajK> Can I remove that toolnbar from systemsettings? It is just a waste of space and configure button I don't need, quit and help neither, although back is not available trough the menu
[16:16] <James147> BajK: I would say you need to for the abck button... (also the search is on the same line... so just removing the icons would do nothing) you can make the icons smaller though
[16:16] <James147> BajK: you can also remove the text ^^
[16:16] <James147> or have it freefloating :)
[16:17] <noaXess> BajK: i think.. this can help also on your booting problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/538524/comments/44
[16:18] <BajK> James147: just posted a wish that the back button shoudl be available from the menu and an option to hide the toolbar
[16:18] <BajK> yeah but switching to small icons just gives 6 more pixels of space :D
[16:18] <James147> BajK: what menu?
[16:18] <BajK> James147: system settings menubar?
[16:19] <James147> BajK: dosnt have one
[16:19] <BajK> James147: ok i'll give it a try
[16:19] <BajK> huh? oh, ehm
[16:19] <BajK> but in netbook shell it utilizes one
[16:19] <BajK> or at least features it
[16:19] <BajK> for the menu plasmoid
[16:20] <James147> BajK: yeah... but the normal system settings dosnt have  a menu bar... that plasmoid is just finding a registered menu in system settings
[16:20] <BajK> i noticed it :D
[16:21] <James147> BajK: system setting is deskgned not to ahve a manu
[16:21] <BajK> waaah i want to have a tablet pc :D KDE 4.5 netbook and rekonq, wow nice :) but a nice pen input area is neccessary though^^
[16:29] <FlashDeluxe> hi @ all, i have got the problem that my system doesnt start, so i am using knoppix to see whats wrong, but i cannot see my harddisks...how can i find&mount them?
[16:30] <James147> FlashDeluxe: sudo dfisk -l     should list your disks
[16:32] <FlashDeluxe> is sudo necessary?
[16:32] <James147> needs root, or it wont list anything
[16:33] <FlashDeluxe> ok than i have to wlak down and write my user in the sudoers file^^ i forgot that
[16:35] <FlashDeluxe> James147: Now im root but it doesnt list anything :(
[16:36] <James147> what does it say?
[16:36] <FlashDeluxe> it says nothing
[16:37] <FlashDeluxe> i execute the command and then nothing happens and the command terminates without errors
[16:37] <James147> FlashDeluxe: what does "sudo blkid -c /dev/null" say?
[16:38] <FlashDeluxe> it says
[16:38] <FlashDeluxe> /dev/cloop0: LABEL="KNOPPIX_FS" TYPE="iso9660"
[16:38] <FlashDeluxe> /dev/cloop2: LABEL="KNOPPIX_FS" TYPE="iso9660"
[16:39] <James147> hmm... what about "ls /dev/sd*"?
[16:39] <FlashDeluxe> i have to say that the disks are in a raid array (hardware raid) and lvm is installed on them
[16:39] <FlashDeluxe> file or directory not found :(
[16:39] <BajK> man, ark is the worst archive manager I ever encountered
[16:40] <James147> FlashDeluxe: actual hardware raid or fakeraid?
[16:40] <James147> BajK: why so?
[16:41] <BajK> you cannot even drag multiple files out of it
[16:41] <FlashDeluxe> actual hardware raid
[16:41] <BajK> you cant just select tem
[16:41] <FlashDeluxe> and the controller works and i see a working raid in the bios menue from the raid controller
[16:42] <James147> FlashDeluxe: well, i have no clue why the dirves arnt being listed :S could be a hardware problem (lose cable?)
[16:43] <FlashDeluxe> James147: No its no hardware problem, definitl
[16:43] <FlashDeluxe> y
[16:44] <James147> FlashDeluxe: well, from what I can see linux dosnt see the drives... afraid I have never see it do that before (without there being a hardware problem) and do not know what you can do at this point
[16:46] <FlashDeluxe> James147: Damn...couldn`t it be a knoppix problem?
[16:46] <James147> FlashDeluxe: possibally... but I cannot say for sure. you could try another live cd if yo ahve one
[16:49] <FlashDeluxe> mhh...ok i will get a new one, perhaps that works, can you advice me a good live cd?
[16:50] <James147> FlashDeluxe: the kubuntu one should work :)
[16:50] <FlashDeluxe> ok i will try it :) thanks a lot
[16:55] <v3nd3tta``> is there a dialogue to bind aux1 and aux2 of a logitech mx518 to something?
[16:56] <dan_l> halp!
[16:56] <dan_l> wait, nm, I fixed it lol
[16:56] <v3nd3tta``> lulz dan_I
[16:57] <dan_l> My cdrom was showing up twice
[16:57] <dan_l> and it was driving me nuts
[16:57] <dan_l> and now it works
[16:57] <dan_l> know what's a PITA?  New kubuntu install, I have to do all of my hotkeys again
[16:58] <sriramoman> hi guys, I am running Platform Version 4.5.00 (KDE 4.5.0) in a Kubuntu Lucid Lynx. The plasma folderview applet shows an ugly huge icon, instead of the actual folder contents. How do I change this behavior :(
[16:58] <dan_l> sriramoman: you mean the "desktop folder" on your default desktop?
[16:59] <sriramoman> dan_l: I am using the Desktop view as my activity. I know that folder-view is supposed to show that cute transparent applet with icons of the desired folder. instead its showing an ugly icon
[16:59] <dan_l> you can take screeny?
[16:59] <v3nd3tta``> i think he means the little folder menu right to the K menu
[17:00] <sriramoman> yes i shall take soon please:)
[17:01] <dan_l> I hated that plasmoid at first
[17:01] <dan_l> but now I'll let it have my babies, because it's that useful.
[17:01] <dan_l> there are some plasmoids which you should have.  That's one, RTM is one you should use or you should volunteer yourself to guantanimo bay.
[17:01] <dan_l> Weird.  Googsystray isn't in the repos.  Nor is dropbox.
[17:06] <sriramoman> dan_l: insted of this:
[17:06] <sriramoman> http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/screenshots/plasma-folderview.png
[17:06] <sriramoman> this is how it appears:
[17:06] <sriramoman> http://img227.imageshack.us/i/screenyywn.jpg/
[17:06] <sriramoman> (Note that ugly blue icon)
[17:06] <FloodBotK1> sriramoman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <dan_l> .....looking now.
[17:06] <dan_l> oh yeah
[17:07] <dan_l> Yes Sriramoman.  i think there is something wrong there.
[17:07] <sriramoman> how do i get rid of that ugly blue icon
[17:07] <sriramoman> i am very clear that i chose "folder view" and not "icon"
[17:07] <sriramoman> :(
[17:07] <sriramoman> while dragging a folder on to the plasma
[17:07] <dan_l> what happens when you click on the icon?
[17:08] <BajK> sriramoman: did you use quicklauncher instead?
[17:08] <BajK> there is a folder view and quicklaunch tile
[17:08] <BajK> Folder view is just a "folder icon" and Quicklaunch is a folder with a star (in the add widgets list)
[17:10] <dan_l> yeah it's the wrong widget.
[17:11] <dan_l> Hey, anybody know what that gtk bootup manager is called?
[17:13] <DarthFrog> GDM
[17:16] <sriramoman> http://img52.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img52/2425/screeny1z.jpg this is the second screeny
[17:16] <sriramoman> sorry for the delay
[17:18] <sriramoman> dan_l:  http://img52.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img52/2425/screeny1z.jpg this is the second screeny
[17:18] <dan_l> I think it's the wrong widet
[17:18] <dan_l> widget, but I"m trying to do the same thing.
[17:19] <sriramoman> i was also confused why Folderview looks so absurd
[17:19] <sriramoman> when i created another user in this same machine, folderview looks perfect
[17:23] <James147> sriramoman: I think it might just be an error with the config, remove the widget and readd it, dose it still look teh smae?
[17:24] <James147> the same ^^
[17:24] <James147> (also, wow thats a big panel O-o)
[17:25] <James147> :S
[17:27] <kaddi> hi , i just accidentally split konversation top/bottom wise three times. How can I undo it and get my normal unsplit window back? (if possilbe without opening and closing)
[17:28] <James147> kaddi: should be :) I would think there is an option in the menus (probally under window or view)
[17:29] <skramer_> dan_l: hi
[17:29] <dan_l> Hiya skramer_
[17:30] <kaddi> James147: >.> <.< I checked there earlier, I swear.. just somehow didn't think "close others" would do what it does... thanks
[17:30] <kaddi> problem resolved :D
[17:31] <edward> hey guys, I'm trying to install Lynux on my computer (10.04), but I need a serial umber. Should I torrent one?
[17:32] <dan_l> what?
[17:32] <James147> edward: what is lynux?
[17:32] <dan_l> Edward:  what do you mean you 'need a serial number'?
[17:32] <skramer_> dan_l: I thought I could enable mouse-over tab-switching in system settings-> window behaviour
[17:32] <edward> James147: Are you serious?
[17:32] <skramer_> but it doesn't seem to be there
[17:32] <edward> dan_l: It asks for a serial number when I log in.. I don't remember being assigned one
[17:32] <dan_l> I'm still trying to find the setting on my daughters computer.  It works, I just can't find the setting
[17:33] <James147> edward: I have no clue, i use linux here :)
[17:33] <edward> James147: What is "Linux"?
[17:33] <dan_l> edward:  are you talking about linux?
[17:33] <kaddi> edward: does it seriously call itself lynux, cause the real ubuntu is lynx not lynux
[17:33] <edward> dan_l: Oh, I think I mispelled it. It's linux.
[17:34] <James147> kaddi: you mean linux :)
[17:34] <edward> kaddi: It says Windows Linux 10.04
[17:34] <dan_l> Edward:  where did you download it from?
[17:34] <James147> edward: ... what?
[17:34] <skramer_> dan_l: in the menu, there is mouse-over for the 5 items Favourites, Programs, etc. But I can't seem to find any setting to activate the same for window tabs :-(
[17:34] <dan_l> skramer_:  I'm looking for it now.
[17:34] <edward> dan_l: I just googled Kubuntu
[17:34] <kaddi> wow, too many highlights.. brb
[17:35] <kaddi> edward: it seems you downloaded some scam version if it asks for money or a serial.. ubuntu doesn't do that normally
[17:35] <edward> dan_l: I think it was the peanut bay or soemthing similarly named..
[17:35] <edward> kaddi: But where can I purchase one?
[17:35] <dan_l> can we boot this asshole?
[17:35] <kaddi> edward: it is free
[17:35] <dan_l> is there an unbootobotu?
[17:35] <James147> edward: I have no clue what you downloaded, but if its asking for a serial its not part of kubuntu or ubuntu so i would be VERY wary of it
[17:36] <edward> dan_l: It's ubottu.. and that sort of comment is totally uncalled for..
[17:36] <James147> edward: get an offical version of kubuntu here http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[17:36] <edward> kaddi: Oh.. then why should it ask for a serial..?
[17:36] <dan_l> Edward:  you're talking about lynux and 'the peanut bay'.  What did you expect?
[17:37] <edward> dan_l: ?
[17:37] <James147> kaddi: that because what ever you ahve isnt kubuntu or ubuntu (its probally not even linux)
[17:37] <kaddi> edward: can you give as a screenshot of that serial
[17:37] <James147> edward: ^^ sorry
[17:37] <kaddi> lol
[17:37] <edward> kaddi: My webcam is broken.
[17:37] <kaddi> how would you take a screenshot with your wbecam o.0
[17:37] <dan_l> Oh god.
[17:38] <dan_l> Edward, are you in windows right now?
[17:38] <edward> dan_l: I am currently in Dell
[17:38] <dan_l> perfect.
[17:39] <dan_l> Go into a command prompt and type "format C:"
[17:39] <edward> kaddi: Oh, like a screencap. I can do that.
[17:39] <dan_l> It automatically gives you access to Dell premium edition.
[17:39] <BajK> dan_l: :D
[17:39] <BajK> dan_l: reminds me of sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[17:39] <dan_l> This guy is the worst troll ever.
[17:39] <dan_l> He couldn't play dead in a b western.
[17:40] <edward> I
[17:40] <edward> I've got a screencap here: v
[17:40] <edward> http://i.imgur.com/s62jX.jpg
[17:41] <kaddi> dan_l: ever since I recently (and in all sincerity) was asked: Is Ubuntu only for linux or do they make a windows version too, I tend to take everybody seriously :p
[17:41] <dan_l> Yes.  He has no idea what operating system he is on, he confuses a web cam and a screen shot ap, but he knows imgur.
[17:41] <kaddi> bbiab
[17:41] <edward> dan_l: Everyone uses Imgur..
[17:41] <dan_l> Kaddi:  I know.  But I smell trolls sometimes.
[17:42] <edward> Hello
[17:42] <edward> ?
[17:42] <edward> Is there like a toll number I can call for support, this is taking too long..
[17:43] <edward> A troll-free number wold be good to.
[17:43] <dan_l> it's 888-382-3483
[17:43] <dan_l> call from your cell phone and it's free.
[17:44] <edward> dan_l: Can I acesss into it?
[17:44] <dan_l> Of course you can.
[17:44] <edward> dan_l: Well I'll have to put that on my list.''
[17:47] <dan_l> Yup.
[17:53] <chevelle> hi people
[17:53] <chevelle> i need upload jar in nextel iden i335
[17:54] <chevelle> any idea???
[17:54] <chevelle> exists Myjal 3 for kubuntu?
[17:59] <bukcyball> there?
[18:00] <bukcyball> I am facing some unusual problem regarding z-order of windows in ubuntu 10.04, gnome environment.
[18:02] <James147> bukcyball: you might want to ask on #ubuntu then :) this channel is for kubuntu/kde
[18:05] <bukcyball> I know. I just tried here. :)
[18:13] <chevelle> help me
[18:13] <chevelle> i nned driver for motorola iDEN
[18:14] <chevelle> ** i need
[18:22] <kaddi> chevelle: what are you trying to do_
[18:22] <kaddi> ?
[18:23] <chevelle> upload my app to Nextel iDEN i335
[18:23] <kaddi> what is nextel iden?
[18:23] <anditosan> join opensuse
[18:23] <chevelle> phone
[18:25] <kaddi> have you tried moto4lin?
[18:25] <BajK> http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo+g560+core+i3+freedos+mit+nvidia would kubuntu run on that?
[18:27] <kaddi> google suggests that the wifi might not owrk by default
[18:27] <kaddi> otherwise... no idea.. probably yes
[18:27]  * James147 like his eee pc :D
[18:44] <BajK> kaddi: hm wifi would be the main feature.. so if that doesnt work
[18:44] <BajK> why shouldn't it?
[18:44] <chevelle> kaddi: moto4lin no found with motorola iDEN :s
[18:44] <chevelle> not work
[18:45] <kaddi> i didn't say it wouldn't work, i just mentioned that it wouldn't work out of the box. BajK I think it will most likely work once you install the drivers.. I can't guarantee anything as I have never seen this notebook in real life, and even less tried ubuntu on it
[18:45] <kaddi> chevelle: you need to install moto4lin on your ubuntu not on your phone
[18:45] <kaddi> then see if moto4lin will detect your phone
[18:45] <chevelle> kaddi:  of course  xD
[18:46] <chevelle> but not work
[18:46] <BajK> kaddi: and which drivers do I need?
[18:47] <kaddi> google should know BajK
[18:47] <chevelle> i don't that driver using this phone
[18:47] <kaddi> how are you trying to connect anyways? bluetooth? firewire? usb?
[18:47] <BajK> kaddi: hm but I don't wanna spent 500 bucks and than have to stick with shitty windows because wifi isnt working^^
[18:48] <kaddi> then check on google if people have found a working solution
[18:48] <chevelle> kaddi: for USB
[18:49] <BajK> kaddi: but I cannot find where it says the bluetooth stick or anything used
[18:49] <chevelle> kaddi: i search and search in google but nothing  my friend :S
[18:49] <BajK> ah found it
[18:49] <BajK> "Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI code 4727]. Ubuntu 9.10 does not support this one out of the box. Works fine with Broadcom's driver from here:"
[18:49] <kaddi> BajK: well if it is only the wifi you can always by a linux compatible wifi-card or flash drive
[18:49] <kaddi> *buy
[18:49] <kaddi> BajK: :) Well that shouldn't be a problem then
[18:49] <James147> BajK: I would try to avoid a laptop with Broadcom wilress chip :)
[18:50] <BajK> James147: hm?
[18:50] <kaddi> chevelle: I'm not finding anything else either... so maybe it's not possible. i don't know. I've never tried
[18:50] <James147> BajK: that have had a histroy of being anoying on linux... and you will be forced into using the closed drivers
[18:51] <kaddi> at least the closed drivers work
[18:51] <kaddi> *cough* intel *cough*
[18:51] <James147> BajK: mostlikly jockey-kde will get it working... but the amount of people I have hear complain about them here is outstanding so I would be wary of getting something with one :)
[18:52] <BajK> ok I'm gonna find a nwe one :D
[18:53] <BajK> Linlap.com but I don't know there to start. Is there a good brand to look at? Should be not that expensive but not cheap-plastic-looking
[18:53] <BajK> ^^
[18:53]  * James147 likes his asus eee pc 
[18:53] <kaddi> I've been very happy with acer, but ubuntu has problem with intel chips lately.. so you might be careful there
[18:53] <kyan> Hello ! My computer won't boot.
[18:54] <James147> asus are quite well known for just working with linux :)
[18:54] <kyan> (Not the one I'm using to chat now... hehe)
[18:54] <kaddi> lol
[18:54] <kyan> When I start it, it hangs at watitng for root filesystem.
[18:54] <kyan> I just updated to the latest kernel version, but it's not displaying in the list of options.
[18:55] <kaddi> the asus I've known just died after 2 years and a week of usage...
[18:55] <kyan> It looks similar to the http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11653 problem.
[18:55] <James147> kaddi: my netbook is still going strong :)
[18:55] <kyan> Any suggestions?
[18:56] <kaddi> kyan: it says it might be a kernel bug, have you tried an older kernel?
[18:56] <James147> havnt had any issues with it, execpt every other release kubuntu seems to fix one set of media keys and break another :D although maverick they are all working
[18:57] <James147> kyan: hold shift during boot to force grub to display a list of kernals
[18:57] <kyan> Ok...
[18:57] <toomai_CH> hi all
[18:57] <kyan> During what stage of bootL
[18:57] <kyan> ?
[18:57] <toomai_CH> I have KDE 4.5.1 and opening Kmail it always says that nepomuk search service not is registered at D-Bus....anything I can do?
[18:57] <kaddi> James147: what graphics chip does your eee have if it ain't intel?
[18:57] <James147> kyan: till you get a menu :)
[18:58]  * James147 goes to check
[18:58] <kaddi> oh wow, I'm behind. KDE 4.5 has been released? >.>
[18:58] <James147> kaddi: ages ago, we are on 4.5.1 now
[18:58] <kyan> Well, I enter my bios password and before I can get my hand to shift GNU GRUB version 1.98 is up with its list of options (such as 'Detect any OS', 'Detect any GRUB2 configuration file (grub.cfg),  &c...)
[18:59] <toomai_CH> kaddi: yap...;)
[18:59] <James147> kaddi: and its an intel :S 945GME... though it just works :)
[18:59] <kyan> I can just try rebooting until I get my hand to that shift key
[18:59] <kaddi> James147: which version did you start using it with, out of curiosity? Did jaunty work for you?
[19:00] <James147> kaddi: oo, cant remember exactly :) ... might have been jaunty or the one after
[19:00] <kaddi> karmic had the issues mostly fixed... mostly :p
[19:01] <James147> kaddi: either way its been great on lucid, and even better on maverick :D
[19:01] <kyan> Do you think that's a good solution?
[19:02] <James147> kyan: nop, grub seems to not be finding what it needs to find :S
[19:02] <kyan> Hmm. Where would I find it?
[19:02] <kaddi> oh it's running fine for me know, too.. just jaunty taught me to be wary. lol... I haven't had time lately and haven't had a glimpse at maverick yet :(
[19:02] <kyan> (so I can modify the boot commands?)
[19:03] <kaddi> even missed the 4.5 release, obviously
[19:03] <kyan> Admittedly I'm not very familiar with GRUB's boot commands...
[19:03] <BajK> what about this one? http://www.arlt.com/PCs-Notebooks/Notebooks/nach-Hersteller/Asus/Asus-K50AF-SX020V.html
[19:04] <James147> kyan: afraid I am not sure what to do... I would boot up a live cd and see if you can acess your drives, if so I would reinstall grub
[19:04] <James147> !grub2 | kyan
[19:04] <toomai_CH> I have KDE 4.5.1 and opening Kmail it always says that nepomuk search service not is registered at D-Bus....anything I can do?
[19:04] <BajK> At Arlt I can tell them not to install Windows, so I will safe another 70-80 euro
[19:04] <kyan> Ok. When I look at the list of kernels, my old ones show up
[19:04] <kyan> ...
[19:05] <kyan> I'll use my Gutsy live cd.
[19:05] <James147> kyan: if you can see a list of kernals try selecting your old one
[19:05] <kyan> I did. that's when it hung at waitng for root fs.
[19:06] <kyan> So I select now Linux 2.6.32-24-generic...
[19:07] <kyan> Now. it says Begin: Waiting for root file system...
[19:07] <kyan> And it still does....
[19:08] <kyan> And I don't think it will stop for a while...
[19:08] <kyan> ...or ever...
[19:08] <kaddi> BajK: you will get no guarantees, no matter how long you ask. Unless you know someone who owns the exact same model, you will have to take the risk of being unable to use certain features of the laptop. Lenovo did not come with drivers for the wireless card. it seems the asus has issues with the touchpad.. bt who knows, they may have been resolved or other issues may have arised we are unaware of
[19:09] <kyan> Ah here's a related thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214312
[19:09] <BajK> kaddi: ok I'll just take the train, drive there and just ask them for notebooks which are compatible for linux ^^
[19:10] <James147> BajK: take a live usb with you and ask if you can test it :)
[19:10] <BajK> :)
[19:10] <kyan> I tried single-user mode and it seemed to have the same problem.
[19:10] <BajK> but atm I haven't got enough spare money anyway.D
[19:13] <kyan> Ah! it change.d
[19:13] <kyan> Now it's stopped at/bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)
[19:15] <kyan> That was after ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/b04f59d6-7210-41ff-b6f7-7fb88a34d882 does not exsit. Dropping to a shell!
[19:16] <kyan> What could cause this errors.?
[19:16] <kyan> Now, the screen is black.
[19:17] <kyan> What should I do to fix it?
[19:22] <kyan> It's still black.
[19:22] <kyan> I'll try the live cd.
[19:22] <seicherlbob> how can i find out my Xserver version?
[19:24] <iconmefisto> seicherlbob: Xorg -version
[19:25] <seicherlbob> iconmefisto: it says 1.4.2 - shouldnt it be something like 6.8 or 7.2 or whatever?
[19:32] <kyan> okay I'm opening Gparet.d
[19:32] <kyan> I mean, Gparted.
[19:32] <Peace-> kyan: gparted?
[19:32] <Peace-> partitionmanager = kde
[19:33] <kyan> Yes, because my only live cd is Ubuntu Gutsy.
[19:33] <Peace-> ah
[19:33] <Peace-> ok
[19:33] <kyan> I installed Kubuntu somehow... don't remember now. hehe
[19:34] <kyan> Gparted isn't recognising any of my partitions, and is displaying only /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd.
[19:34] <kyan> They're both listed as unallocated.
[19:34] <ehee> Hi all,  I am using kbuntu with a standard def TV via S-Video and i would like the tweak my modeline settings in xorg config so that the video displayed on my TV fills the whole screen. Could someone sugest a good GUI app that will let me play with the modeline so i can get a good set of values?
[19:35] <kyan> In the file browser, the partitions show up fine.
[19:35] <James147> kyan: welll that might explain the problems :S... what where you doing before you couldnt boot?
[19:35] <James147> ...
[19:35] <James147> kyan: can you browes the files?
[19:36] <kyan> Some of them.
[19:37] <Peace-> ehee: why systemsetting----> display doens't work ?
[19:37] <kyan> One 20.5 gb volume says mount:: wrong fs type, bad opiton,b ad superblock on /dev//hdd8, missing codepage or helper program or other error in some cases useul info is foun d in syslog — try dmesg | tail or so
[19:38] <kyan> I think that's the ext4 volume my main installation is.
[19:38] <kyan> There's another one giving the  same error.
[19:38] <kyan> an 894.2 mb partition.
[19:39] <ehee> Peace: display works but the resolution of the tv is not exactly the same as standard res and i want to play with the settings to get the most out of the realistate on the tv.
[19:40] <drunkncrew> hello all
[19:40] <drunkncrew> I was just wondering if anyone has updated to KDE 4.5, and if they've had any issues with it?
[19:41] <iconmefisto> drunkncrew: I just upgraded. amarok wouldn't start until I renamed .kde/share/apps/amarok
[19:42] <drunkncrew> iconmefisto: I did a fresh install about a week ago and upgraded to 4.5 and then my sytem lagged really badly, I was wondering if anyone else had experienced lag with 4.5
[19:43] <drunkncrew> i had to reinstall Kubuntu all together to get the extremem lag to go away, I was wondering if it was indeed KDE 4.5 or just something random
[19:45] <James147> drunkncrew: I found the opposite, 4.5 was allot more responsive for me
[19:46] <drunkncrew> james147: thanks, I'll go ahead and update then, hopefully it was just a fluke
[19:48] <kyan> I'm using testdisk now.
[19:49] <caribou_> what irc client is everyone using?  i'm still trying to find something similar to mirc, but without having to use wine...
[19:49] <drunkncrew> caribou_: I'm using quassel which is just the kubuntu default and i like it
[19:49] <kyan> caribou_: I'm just using webirc. http://webchat.freenode.net/
[19:50] <BajK> I want Kopete's ability to connect to IRC back
[19:50] <James147> caribou_: quassel or konversation are what most people here are probally using :) (although not all) quassel is kubuntus default one konv is allot more advanced
[19:51] <caribou_> i'm on quassel now, and it's certainly usable...  maybe a fixed-width font would make me feel at home :oP
[19:51] <Peace-> caribou_: use konversation
[19:51] <Peace-> BajK: it's a nice idea...
[19:52] <BajK> Peace-: I could connect to IRC in KDE 3.5 with kopete but this features is missing
[19:52] <kyan> Testdisk has scanned 61% of my first hard drive and it's still found no partition.
[19:52] <Peace-> BajK: i know :)
[19:52] <Peace-> BajK: i am using konversation
[19:52] <Peace-> that is what we get ... for now
[19:52] <kyan> Any ideas what the cause of that might be?
[19:53] <Peace-> kyan: no partition ? omg
[19:53] <James147> kyan: I would guess at there being something seriously wrong with your drive :(
[19:54] <iconmefisto> is the problem with ext4 partitions only?
[19:57] <BajK> hmmm.. plasma-netbook seems not to support multi screen configuration :( :D
[19:57] <kyan> Ok it's finnished.
[19:58] <kyan> inconmefisto: possibly.
[19:58] <kyan> I'm using a gutsy live cdh.
[19:58] <kyan> OK testdisk found one partiiton on /dev/hdc.
[19:58] <kyan> FAT32 LBA 9447 0 1 9727 254 63 4514265 [EL-BOOT
[19:58] <kyan> -28]
[19:59] <kyan> Isn't that size a bit excessive?
[20:00] <kyan> For my other hard disc, /dev/hdd, I got : D HPFS - NTFS 0  1 20591 15 63 20756673
[20:00] <BajK> wow nice, in kde 4.5 you can configure samba using systemsettings :)
[20:00] <kyan> D Linux 20591 4 1 20607 15 63 16884
[20:00] <kyan> Does that seem right?
[20:00] <kyan> Does that seem to need to be fixed?
[20:01] <kyan> Now I'm doing deeper searches and it's finding more.
[20:02] <kyan> On /dev/hdc, it's found, at 6% done : Linux 0 1 1 9446 254 63 151765992.
[20:03] <James147> BajK: you can?
[20:04] <BajK> James147: I do?
[20:04]  * James147 looks confused
[20:04] <BajK> James147: multi monitor support
[20:05] <BajK> the plasma netbook shell just appeared on the primary screen
[20:05] <BajK> whilst the secondary one had just a black background
[20:05] <kyan> Is there any software that can locate all the partitons of a hard disc and write a new partition map, and then locate all the operating systems, and write GRUB config file for it?
[20:05] <BajK> Ok it's not meant for that and I was just playing but still^^
[20:05] <James147> BajK: was talking about the samba comment :)
[20:05] <BajK> James147: ah
[20:05] <BajK> James147: Systemsettings -> Sharing and theres the ordinary useless tab just featuring the workgroun
[20:05] <BajK> and there is another one with the fuill samba configuration
[20:06] <BajK> although authentication does not work, so you have to launch systemsettings with kdesudo to make it work
[20:07] <James147> BajK: hmm, only have the "default name and password" options there :(
[20:08] <James147> and no tabs
[20:12] <BajK> James147: you have samba installed, don't you?
[20:12] <BajK> I did install another package other than just samba but ubuntuusers is down so I cannot tell
[20:13] <kyan> Can I use TestDisk to write a partition table?
[20:13] <BajK> James147: http://91.89.85.69:41141/sambakde.png
[20:13] <hsr> HEllo
[20:15] <James147> BajK: nop, i onl yhave two options, and not tabs :S and yes I have samba installed
[20:16] <James147> what "otherpackage" do you have?
[20:21] <kyan> Any programs at all that will let me create a customised partition table without actually modifying the partitions themselves?
[20:22] <tibetan_zen> how to stop system sounds in Kubuntu 10.04?
[20:23] <DarthFrog> tibetan_zen: Use System Settings to control your system sounds.
[20:24] <tibetan_zen> trying already, and nothing
[20:25] <slow-motion> hi
[20:25] <DarthFrog> tibetan_zen: "Manage Notifications" has a "No audio output" option.
[20:26] <BajK> James147: i don't remember exactly, ubuntuusers.de is down so i cannot look it up
[20:26] <James147> BajK: why do you need that site to look it up?
[20:27] <James147> (and its working here)
[20:28] <tibetan_zen> checked, but Chromium still has sounds when i hit back buton for example
[20:29] <BajK> James147: where should I know which package exactly i did install?^^
[20:32] <kyan> I'm trying fdisk now. It says Unable to open /dev/hdd.
[20:33] <James147> BajK: do you remember part of its name?
[20:33] <klbshat> ?
[20:35] <kyan> Aaack! something wrong with my partition tabl.
[20:35] <kyan> The only partiton in /dev/hdc has so many blocks that fdisk can't count them?
[20:35] <kyan> Hmm.
[20:36] <frando> Hey. I just updated my 10.04 installation, accepted all available updates, restarted and now kdm starts, I enter my password, the login form goes away and - nothing happens.
[20:37] <frando> The 5 icons that appear normally when kde starts do not even appear
[20:37] <frando> so I am hung on the kdm background image, I can move the mouse, but nothing happens
[20:37] <EagleScreen> frando: are you sure all updates were applied?
[20:38] <frando> EagleScreen: I think so, yes. I only restarted when it was all done and there were no errors.
[20:38] <abpc> please help me
[20:38] <James147> frando: try installing kubuntu-desktop
[20:39] <frando> James147: OK.. can try that. but i'm pretty sure it's already installed?
[20:39] <James147> frando: worth a try :)
[20:39] <frando> and btw, is there an easy way to connect to a WPA2 Personal encrypted WLAN from the console?
[20:39] <EagleScreen> frando: also try a clean user enviroment (create a new user and try)
[20:39] <frando> As I can't get into KDE I don't know how to get online
[20:40] <frando> EagleScreen: Hm, yeah will try that too
[20:40] <tibetan_zen> how can be shut down Kubuntu 10.04 with keyboard shortcut?
[20:40] <EagleScreen> frando: do you know your network card name?
[20:40] <EagleScreen> eth0, eth1
[20:41] <EagleScreen> tibetan_zen: Ctrl + Alt + Supr ?
[20:41] <kyan> Ok, I've found one problem. I've got an iso9660 filesystem in a hard drive... wth?
[20:42] <tibetan_zen> what is Supr ?
[20:43] <EagleScreen> Del?
[20:43] <tibetan_zen> ok
[20:43] <tibetan_zen> thx
[20:45] <BajK> why is ubuntuusers wiki still available?
[20:45] <Guest76516> Hello
[20:46] <BajK> James147: ah got it
[20:46] <BajK> James147: kdenetwork-filesharing
[20:46] <Guest76516> I am testing kubuntu for the first time and it's great.
[20:46] <BajK> James147: i installed samba, kdenetwork and kdenetwork-filesharing
[20:47] <Guest76516> what firewall do you all recommend?
[20:47] <Peace-> Guest76516: i didn't use firewall
[20:47] <Peace-> since 3 year
[20:47]  * James147 install "kdenetwork-filesharing"
[20:47] <Peace-> Guest76516: are yoi on the lan ?
[20:47] <Peace-> Guest76516: or you have a home connection ?
[20:47] <Guest76516> is there a good one that you guys would recommend? I am on a lan.
[20:48] <James147> Guest76516: non if your behind a router with a filewall
[20:48] <BajK> -> pizza
[20:48] <Guest76516> Yeah that should be my next step, I have a good firewall router.  haha Pizza makes a great firewall.
[20:48] <Guest76516> lol
[20:49] <iconmefisto> !firewall
[20:49] <Guest76516> Thank you Iconmefisto and Peace!
[20:49] <James147> Guest76516: if you are on a computer that is already behind a router with a good firewall, then a firewall on the computer its self is largly pointless
[20:50] <James147> (and often just gets in the way)
[20:50] <Guest76516> doesn't it make sense to have a firewall behind a firewall for added security? I have 8 gigs of ram and quad core so speed isn't an issue.
[20:50] <Peace-> James147: Guest76516 James147 has right
[20:50] <BajK> James147: and? working? :)
[20:51] <James147> Guest76516: its not speed, its things you want to get through being blocked by your added level of security
[20:51] <Guest76516> Kubuntu rocks, ok thanks you guys.
[20:51] <James147> BajK: installing :) looked away for a sec and it asked me a question and paused there :)
[20:51] <BajK> Guest76516: would you consider giving yourself a nickname? type /nick YOURNEWNICK for a new nickname
[20:52] <BajK> James147: yeah, that sucks^^ especially when doing dist-upgarde and there is an update for kdm it always stops and asks whether i want to keep the settings or overwrite them
[20:52] <AngelHill> :) thanks
[20:52] <kyan> Is it normal for an 80-gb hard drive to have 155060 cylinders?
[20:52] <kyan> That seems like a lot.
[20:52] <AngelHill> You guys are really helpful
[20:52] <James147_> BajK: yup have the options now :D
[20:53] <BajK> James147: can you try starting systemsettings with kdesudo if it works? because it deos not ask for a authentication
[20:53] <kyan> Also, is there a better place to be asking this? It seems only tangentially related to kubuntu (even though the problem appeared after updating kubuntu).
[20:54] <AngelHill> brb gonna go look at the firewall settings you all recommended.
[20:55] <James147__> BajK: yeah, needs to be run with kdesudo :S
[20:55] <BajK> James147__: ah kay, better than nothing :)
[20:56] <BajK> oh dear, when I remember back the days when I just formatted XP because it annoyed me soo much (ram was broken which I didn't know at that time) with BSODs and things.. how Kubuntu evolved in that short period of time, never wanna switch back to that ugly KDE 4.2 :)
[20:58] <AngelHill> Do any of you use wine on kubuntu? Or is that a dumb q? ^.^
[20:59] <James147__> AngelHill: try not to if there is an alternitive
[20:59] <James147__> !wine
[21:01] <BajK> AngelHill: i do use wine
[21:02] <kyan> AngelHill : I use wine
[21:02] <AngelHill> James147 you're super helpful thank you
[21:02] <AngelHill> what apps do you all find you need from win that you don't have here?
[21:02] <AngelHill> Cause I want to get better with linux
[21:02] <BajK> AngelHill: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[21:02] <James147__> AngelHill: Steam... but thats going to change soon :)
[21:03] <BajK> AngelHill: there are applications that do and dont run with wine
[21:03] <BajK> James147__: steam runs better on my kubuntu thatn it used to on xp :D
[21:03] <BajK> i mean counter strike and so
[21:04] <AngelHill> steam rocks i love hl2
[21:04] <AngelHill> sweet
[21:04] <James147__> BajK: pity L4D[2] loses about 5-10 fps... placing it on the boarder of being unplayble
[21:04] <BajK> on friday i hve a lan party, and my pc does not even "know" windows :D never had it
[21:04] <AngelHill> l4d 2 is so much fun.
[21:04] <AngelHill> lan party lucky
[21:05] <BajK> James147__: dunno, just have counter strike, half life 2 and its eps, lost coast, deathmatch and this childish airplane game
[21:05] <BajK> depending on the amount of players I can play with up to 60 fps
[21:05] <BajK> with 16 players
[21:05] <BajK> at 24 players it lags a bit though
[21:05] <James147__> BajK: should probally try hl2... portal worked quite well under it
[21:05] <BajK> James147__: yes portal is nice
[21:06] <BajK> I have all effects turned on, 16x anisotropic, 4xantialias, HDRR and things
[21:06] <kyan> Is there any way to make Kubuntu boot?
[21:06] <v3nd3tta``> omg freaks
[21:06] <v3nd3tta``> what hw do you have?
[21:06] <James147__> only have a 7300 :( makes it hard to play anything at a decent speed
[21:06] <v3nd3tta``> haha
[21:06] <v3nd3tta``> me 2
[21:07] <v3nd3tta``> can you launch cs:s ?
[21:07] <v3nd3tta``> through steam
[21:07] <v3nd3tta``> ?
[21:07] <James147__> dont ahve it ^^
[21:07] <James147__> so no :D
[21:07] <v3nd3tta``> what then?
[21:07] <James147__> can play portal ^^ and l4d[2] just about plays :)
[21:07] <v3nd3tta``> yay
[21:07] <v3nd3tta``> portal is <3
[21:08] <v3nd3tta``> l4d2 idk i dont like it
[21:08]  * James147__ hopes protal2 will be linux native 
[21:08] <v3nd3tta``> too unreal
[21:08] <v3nd3tta``> yeah i hope 2 they port it to a native linux
[21:08] <AngelHill> how do I find out about myself as a user on irc?
[21:08] <AngelHill> sorry if thats not related to the topic
[21:08] <BajK> it runs on mac so it isnt that big of a step to portingi it to linux
[21:08] <James147__> it could happen, steam are building a native client :)
[21:08] <v3nd3tta``> uhm /msg NickServ info <user>
[21:09] <v3nd3tta``> it would be great
[21:09] <v3nd3tta``> :D
[21:09] <James147__> AngelHill: atm your more ontopic then we are :)
[21:09] <kyan> I'll try asking at #ubuntu
[21:09] <AngelHill> Thanks V3nd3tta and James147
[21:09] <James147__> AngelHill: what do you mean "find out about yourself"?
[21:09] <v3nd3tta``> he means more info
[21:10] <v3nd3tta``> ah
[21:10] <v3nd3tta``> try /whois <user>
[21:10] <AngelHill> k
[21:13] <AngelHill> Thanks V3nd3tta
[21:13] <v3nd3tta``> np
[21:13] <v3nd3tta``> if you want to know more commands, be sure to ask in #freenode - the staff does even know 100 percent more tham me
[21:14] <AngelHill> I wish I was a hacker, I wish I was a kungfu stacker, break ryhmes like leanne, judo chop like bruce lee cause he's the man lol.
[21:14] <AngelHill> k thanks /join #freenode
[21:14] <AngelHill> hmm
[21:14] <AngelHill> not sure how to join lol
[21:14] <FloodBotK1> AngelHill: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <AngelHill> sorry
[21:15] <AngelHill> there we go got it
[21:15] <AngelHill> why didn't I switch to linux a long time ago?
[21:15] <AngelHill> lol
[21:16] <James147> AngelHill: :D
[21:16] <hinkman> hi! i've a problem with nepomuk/soprano/strigi after updating from 4.5.0 to 4.5.1 on lucid.
[21:17] <James147> hinkman: we cannot help if you dont tell us what the problem is
[21:17] <hinkman> James147: yeah ;-) i'll describe it now
[21:18] <hinkman> at first postinstall of virtuoso-opensource-6.1 locked.
[21:19] <hinkman> i terminated some sql process that seemed to update the virtuoso dba and dav passwords
[21:20] <hinkman> then, strigi didnt work anymore. thus, i reinstalled virtuoso-opensource-6.1 with apt-get install --reinstall ...
[21:20] <Ecijano23> hola
[21:20] <Ecijano23> what is a spanish ubuntu chanel?
[21:21] <iconmefisto> !es
[21:21] <hinkman> then, a dialog appeared, that says i didnt chose a admin password for virtuoso (i remembered this dialog from an earlier update)
[21:21] <hinkman> and postinstall finished.
[21:21] <Ecijano23> thx
[21:21] <AngelHill> what irc cliennt do you all like best?
[21:22] <hinkman> when trying to start strigi manually by nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice, then i get an DBus Error:ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files
[21:22] <Kolia> hinkman: what if you just start nepomuk and strigi from systemsettings?
[21:23] <hinkman> strigi doesnt run or says something about installationproblem
[21:24] <Kolia> hinkman: I had the same problem to install virtuoso. when i finally managed to install it, nepomuk was still not working. so I cleared the nepomuk folder from .kde and everything was fine after this
[21:24] <hinkman> the same postinstall problem occured on my other computer, but there strigi seems to run
[21:25] <hinkman> Kolia: i know, i did this when updating from 4.3 to 4.4 because the database format was somehow corrupted.
[21:25] <James147> AngelHill: quassel and konversation are two popular choises for kde :)
[21:25] <kyan> I'm just going to back up all my data to an external hd then do a complete reinstall.
[21:25] <kyan> Thanks for your help!
[21:25] <AngelHill> I like quassel so far
[21:26] <AngelHill> James, do you know of any themey ones? I mean ones I can skin?
[21:26] <hinkman> but i will lose all of my nepomuk tags, wont i?
[21:26] <James147> AngelHill: I dissagree with themable programs... I prefure to set my themes globally not ahve to chose one for every program :)
[21:27] <AngelHill> James147 that makes it easier i suppose
[21:27] <James147> AngelHill: its allot easier to change how programs look in kubuntu compaired with windows :)
[21:28] <James147> hinkman: you will... try a new user first before deleting any file :)
[21:28] <iconmefisto> AngelHill: might want to try kvirc
[21:28] <hinkman> James147: I will
[21:29] <AngelHill> kvirc ok thanks Iconmefisto
[21:33] <BajK> so, /me's canna play cs now :D withwine :)
[21:33] <jaem> I installed ubuntu-desktop on top of Kubuntu Karmic, and now the KDE session is using the GNOME Window manager and disregarding the KDE "Default Applications" settings entirely.
[21:33] <jaem> Any ideas?
[21:34] <AltrortlA> Sorry if i use this channel ... I need a chat for Windows Vista trouble ... any tips?
[21:35] <AltrortlA> I can't find any
[21:35] <James147> AltrortlA: #window probally
[21:35] <iconmefisto> AltrortlA: join ##windows
[21:35] <AltrortlA> thanks i'll try
[21:38] <jaem> Hmm... fixed it manually.
[21:38] <jaem> That's still rather odd, though.
[21:38] <AngelHill> bye everyone thanks for your help :)
[21:40] <hinkman> James147: for a new user, strigi works
[21:46] <James147> hinkman: :( sounds like you need to delete the configs then.... or see if you cna find out why they arnt working (afraid I dont know how to do that)
[21:48] <Key_Gruin> any kasablanca users here? wondering how to bookmark the Session A side as a local list to go with the B side, on the internet
[22:07] <hinkman> James147:thats strange, strigi doesnt use virtuoso anymore, it uses poor redland
[22:15] <hinkman> James147:i've found the solution!
[22:15] <hinkman> without deleting my database or configs
[22:15] <hinkman> i started the nepomukserver manually
[22:18] <hinkman> when enabling nepomuk, it says there is a problem with the transaction log. it was generated by an old server version. i deleted the log ~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano-virtuoso.trx
[22:18] <hinkman> now it works
[22:20] <hinkman> bye
[22:39] <mandip> I cant write to my usb stick without using sudo from  konsole? Any ideas??
[22:40] <mandip> Im on 10.04 btw
[22:51] <Metal_Fox> Hi, I'm having troubles with flash (no audio) and my PCM bar is up
[23:37] <Daskreech> Hello
[23:37] <Daskreech> !usb
[23:38] <Daskreech> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:45] <inteliwasp> what can cause extra characters to appear on the bios boot screen (ie: random letters/symbols and some rapidly changeing)
[23:46] <inteliwasp> i have already reseated my video card
[23:47] <inteliwasp> and the cpu temp is good