[01:48] <boywonder> if i want to boot from grub do i need a u3 type usb drive?
[01:52] <aveilleux> boywonder: GRUB has nothing to do with u3.
[01:54] <boywonder> whats grub then?
[01:55] <aveilleux> boywonder: GRUB is the bootloader that Linux uses. U3 is an applications base for portable devices. They're completely unrelated.
[01:57] <boywonder> ok thanks i was just wondering because of the launch pad hid
[02:10] <nvox> hello
[02:12] <boywonder> hi nvox
[02:12] <nvox> wow people in here on sunday night, that is dedication
[02:13] <aveilleux> nvox, you say that like Sunday night is any different from a normal night
[02:13] <nvox> well it is a holiday weekend I meant
[02:13] <zkriesse> nvox: People are always here
[02:14] <nvox> I came in because I tried to activate a proprietary nvidia driver and I got this
[02:14] <nvox> SystemError: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-current_256.44-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]
[02:14] <nvox> I'm using 10.10 amd64 beta desktop
[02:14] <nvox> and I can ping that IP so I know it isn't down
[02:15] <nvox> I'm assuming the answer is I just have to wait
[02:15] <aveilleux> nvox: It's there (in the repo), so I'm not sure why you're getting that error. Try running sudo apt-cache clean && sudo apt-get update, then trying again
[02:17] <nvox> Is it perhaps relevant that I'm running it from "try ubuntu" mode
[02:18] <aveilleux> nvox: The LiveCD? That shouldn't be entirely relevant, but I haven't run the LiveCD in somewhere around two years so I don't know
[02:19] <nvox> yeah I wanted to install when 10.04 came out, but there were problems running it on my dell e6510, so I am trying it again now, was all video stuff
[02:19] <aveilleux> nvox: What video card?
[02:19] <nvox> seems to be much improved
[02:19] <nvox> nvidia nvs 3100m
[02:20] <nvox> the nouveau driver is much better now too
[02:21] <boywonder> im looking to install gcc c++ only the install from ubuntu is not the latest shall i take a dive and go for the latest?
[02:22] <aveilleux> boywonder: Unless there's something that you absolutely need in the latest version, the version that's in the repositories should be sufficient for end-users (you)
[02:25] <nvox> your advice worked, it is downloading, albeit very slowly
[02:25] <boywonder> yer im an end user lol
[02:25] <nvox> however apt-cache tells me it does not have a clean command for some reason
[02:25] <nvox> sudo apt-get update worked
[02:27] <aveilleux> nvox: I lied, the command is apt-get clean. I don't use apt-get, though, si I'm unfamiliar with its intricacies.
[02:38] <nvox> hrm they fixed the brightness problem too, this is really great
[02:39] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> has anyone in every used 7-zip before
[02:39] <nvox> I use it all the time on windows
[02:40] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I have a file in 7z format that will not open and I have tried everything I can think of to get it to open and have had no luck
[02:41] <nvox> Does it give you any sort of error message
[02:41] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah one sec
[02:41] <nvox> also how large is it roughly, you may have had a bit flipped when you downloaded it
[02:41] <nvox> you might want to md5 it
[02:42] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> can not open file 'location of file' as archive
[02:43] <nvox> sounds to me like either its a newer format or a corrupt file
[02:43] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok so how do I check which
[02:43] <nvox> I've had some issues with tar.gzs in 7s
[02:43]  * boywonder off for a coffee burst brb
[02:43] <nvox> Well what OS are you in atm
[02:43] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> Win7
[02:44] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> 64-bit
[02:44] <nvox> sec lemme look up the command
[02:44] <nvox> Are you comfortable with powershell
[02:45] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> never used it
[02:45] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> but I learn fast
[02:45] <nvox> OK well I'd suggest you put the 7z file in a folder to mark it as the original, download it again
[02:45] <nvox> and see if you get the same error
[02:45] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I did that already same thing
[02:46] <nvox> oh
[02:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah
[02:46] <nvox> then my only advice is try the newest version of 7z
[02:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> got that too
[02:46] <nvox> I don't know of anything else that can handle its archives
[02:46] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> and the old version
[02:46] <nvox> I have had it balk at files before like that =(
[02:47] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah I have been at this one for hours
[02:47] <nvox> perhaps you can get the contents of the file some other way
[02:47] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> does it help that its a very large file
[02:48] <nvox> yes makes bit flip muchmore likely
[02:48] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how because I have tried every program that will open 7z format and get the samething every time
[02:48] <nvox> well every extra bit is another chance for an error
[02:49] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah that it true and the file is 4.76GB
[02:49] <nvox> Id suggest you compare MD5 hashes
[02:49] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how do I do it
[02:51] <nvox> the way I do it is pretty overly complex
[02:51] <nvox> I'll just find something for you to download
[02:51] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> haha ok that works to
[02:53] <nvox> http://beeblebrox.org/
[02:53] <nvox> this is a windows utility that will make a new tab when you right click on the file icon
[02:53] <nvox> allowing you to see different hashes for the file, like md5, sha1
[02:53] <nvox> however you need some way to find the hash for the original file from the source in order to compare them
[02:54] <nvox> I cannot help with that part
[02:54] <nvox> but if you compare to the two strings, youll be able to tell if something is going wrong
[02:54] <JoeMaverickSett> how do i turn off the updates for kernel version; 2.6.32-25, as i'm now using kernel version; 2.6.35-19 from ppa:https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa on lucid 10.04
[02:54] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> the file was broke up in parts could I use that
[02:55] <nvox> I don't know.
[02:55] <nvox> You might want to just e-mail whoever provides the file if you can't generate md5s for the pieces
[02:55] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok ill give it a try, thanks for your help
[02:55] <nvox> np
[03:34] <mxe5> How do I open a folder on the desktop as an administrator ? ?
[03:35] <aveilleux> mxe5: Open Terminal, type gksudo nautilus ~/Desktop/<foldername>
[03:35] <aveilleux> mxe5: Case-sensitive
[03:36] <mxe5> aveilleux: Thank you....
[03:36] <aveilleux> mxe5: You're welcome
[03:36] <aveilleux> mxe5: In Linux terminology, you're opening the folder ans "root"
[03:36] <aveilleux> as*
[03:38] <mxe5> aveilleux: Ok - I knew that part - just needed a little nudge it the right direction.
[03:38] <aveilleux> mxe5: gksudo is used to launch graphical applications as root, and nautilus is the file manager for GNOME
[03:38] <aveilleux> mxe5: So there you go
[04:14] <ju1c3> how would one install hfsprogs for gparted from a laptop with internet to a desktop with no internet (usb stick, both running 10.04)
[04:15] <aveilleux> ju1c3: You could download the .deb files one at a time...
[04:16] <aveilleux> ju1c3: Alternately, you could share the Internet connection (if something like that is possible)
[04:16] <ju1c3> i think .deb is what i wanna do but where would i find a .deb for hfsprogs?
[04:19] <ju1c3> aveilleux: i think .deb is what i wanna do but where would i find a .deb for hfsprogs?
[04:20] <aveilleux> ju1c3: Is the target system graphical?
[04:22] <aveilleux> ju1c3: By that I mean, is it a windows-type environment?
[04:23] <ju1c3> aveilleux: i believe its a plugin for the gparted GUI
[04:23] <aveilleux> ju1c3: That
[04:23] <aveilleux> 's not what I asked (stupid return key), but you answered my question anyway
[04:23] <ju1c3> :D
[04:24] <aveilleux> ju1c3: Can you open Synaptic for me and search (Installed files only) and see if you have libc6 installed?
[04:24] <ju1c3> aveilleux: is there a terminal command for that?
[04:24] <aveilleux> ju1c3: apt-cache search, but it's unreliable
[04:25] <ju1c3> aveilleux: ic
[04:25] <ju1c3> aveilleux: one sec
[04:28] <ju1c3> aveilleux: checkinstall is still running at 65%, could be a while
[04:47] <ju1c3> aveilleux: yes i have libc6
[04:47] <aveilleux> ju1c3: How about libssl?
[04:48] <ju1c3> aveilleux: on both comps
[04:57] <ju1c3> aveilleux: yes
[04:57] <aveilleux> how about libssd?
[04:57] <aveilleux> libbsd, I mean
[04:58] <ju1c3> lol
[04:59] <ju1c3> libbsd0 ?
[04:59] <aveilleux> Yes
[04:59] <aveilleux> Okay
[05:00] <ju1c3> k
[05:00] <aveilleux> You have all the dependencies
[05:00] <aveilleux> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/hfsprogs
[05:22] <mxe5> I can not get the regular #ubuntu channel to come up - It say's #ubuntu-unregged - I registered this Nick I'm using right now - So what is the problem ? ?
[05:24] <seidos> mxe5, did you identify to nickserv?  /msg nickserv identify <password>
[05:26] <mxe5> seidos: Yes as far as I know I did - it was a little confusing at first but kept searching google on how to register my Nick - I received a confirmation email etc.
[05:27] <seidos> mxe5, registering and identifying aren't the same thing.  identifying is like "authenticating" to nickserv, so that it is in fact "you".
[07:28] <nUboon2Age> phillw: today i reinstalled and made a separate /home installation.  Thanks for all your links.  I made good use of them. before reinstalling i experimented with several of the other options, but made a mistake that deleted some important things so i decided just to reinstall.
[07:59] <boywonder> how can i extract an iso to a usb stick?
[08:00] <aveilleux> boywonder: What are you trying to do that with? Because you can mount ISO files natively in Ubuntu.
[08:01] <boywonder> im trying to boot gparted live from a grub boot menu?
[08:01] <boywonder> on a usb stick
[08:02] <aveilleux> boywonder: Two things.... One, the GParted LiveCD is really heavy (it uses Debian), so I don't recommend it (More on that later)
[08:02] <aveilleux> boywonder: Two, USB sticks don't get boot to from GRUB, but your BIOS's boot menu
[08:03] <boywonder> i dont understand the later?
[08:03] <aveilleux> boywonder: If you want to have a bootable USB stick with GParted on it, I would highly recommend RiP Linux http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/
[08:03] <boywonder> i want multible boots
[08:04] <boywonder> ie gpart ubcd etc
[08:04] <aveilleux> boywonder: You want to install GRUB onto your USB stick? I don't think USB sticks even have master boot records.
[08:05] <boywonder> well i have a boot screen for that usb stick
[08:08] <aveilleux> boywonder: Well you've outdone me, then. Interesting. In any case, what you'd want to do is partition your USB stick (one partition for each recovery boot disc, plus one swap for the Linux ones) and then install each to the stick using UnetBootN
[08:14] <boywonder> ok thats for another day, if i format to fat 32 do i loose the mbr?
[08:19] <aveilleux> boywonder: I don't think so, but I'm not sure how your stick is set up
[14:27] <boywonder> hey i know this is off topic but ive disappeared the menu for xchat anyone know how to get it back?
[14:31] <philinux> Which menu?
[14:34] <boywonder> how the freak do i get the menu back??
[14:35] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> does anyone know how to fix a integer overflow error message on a archived file
[14:35] <philinux> Do you mean the menu items like View server Settings in xchat itself
[14:35] <boywonder> yes its gone and i cant access anything
[14:37] <boywonder> can you help lol
[14:37] <boywonder> im in a mess
[14:38] <philinux> boywonder: sudo apt-get purge xchat then reinstall it.
[14:38] <philinux> boywonder: Is this the only app like this?
[14:39] <boywonder> ctrl f9
[14:44] <philinux> So it is.
[14:45] <boywonder> phhht
[16:23] <aveilleux> Good morning, team
[16:25] <stlsaint> sup
[16:26] <paultag> hey aveilleux
[16:27] <aveilleux> Being lazy and iPodding to the channel from my bed, paultag
[16:27] <paultag> word.
[16:27] <paultag> as the kids today say
[16:27] <Puck`> LOL
[16:27] <Puck`> hi everyone (:
[16:28] <aveilleux> Oh hey, -team is below #ub. Normally -team is above.
[16:28] <aveilleux> Silly Colloquy.
[16:35] <Daniel0108> hi
[16:35] <Daniel0108> can someone help me with my Ubuntu?
[16:37] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: sup
[16:38] <Daniel0108> you can help me?
[16:38] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: well i dont know because you havent stated what your problem is
[16:39] <Daniel0108> okay, fine, i will start ;)
[16:39] <Daniel0108> i have a button on my laptop, to disable my touchpad
[16:39] <Daniel0108> i pressed it
[16:39] <Daniel0108> then my keyboard, touchpad and my panels freezed
[16:40] <Daniel0108> so i restarted my laptop, through the power-button
[16:40] <Daniel0108> and now
[16:40] <Daniel0108> my touchpad doesnt work anymore  :(
[16:40] <Daniel0108> and my mouse is very worse, so i can't use it for long time :(
[16:42] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: have you tried restarting system again
[16:42] <Daniel0108> you know this problem?
[16:42] <Daniel0108> yea
[16:42] <Daniel0108> i restarted it very often
[16:42] <Daniel0108> and i also started the failsafe gnome
[16:43] <Daniel0108> and the ubuntu recovery, nothing worked
[16:44] <stlsaint> sounds like a bug but i doubt i cant be recontructed again...what are the specs of your system?
[16:45] <Daniel0108> but i never had problems with my touchpad before
[16:45] <Daniel0108> and
[16:45] <Daniel0108> if i logout
[16:46] <Daniel0108> my touchpad works
[16:46] <Daniel0108> but if i login again
[16:46] <Daniel0108> it doesnt work anymore :(
[16:46] <stlsaint> oh, well that probably means something in your desktop environment has some messed up setting
[16:46] <Daniel0108> yea
[16:46] <Daniel0108> but WHICH setting is that? :)
[16:48] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: have you looking in: System>Pref>Mouse
[16:48] <Daniel0108> yea
[16:48] <Daniel0108> i tried much settings
[16:48] <Daniel0108> but none of these worked
[16:49] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[16:50] <Daniel0108> i already installed this touchpad app
[16:52] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: this is not an app
[16:52] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: it is a very informative guide for starting out with the touchpad
[16:52] <Daniel0108> okay
[16:53] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: in a terminal run this command: xinput list
[16:53] <Daniel0108> i just read the first paragraph ;)
[16:53] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: from that command you should see your touchpad
[16:53] <Daniel0108> yea
[16:53] <Daniel0108> i see it
[16:53] <Daniel0108> SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
[16:53] <Daniel0108> id=13
[16:54] <Daniel0108> slave pointer (2)
[16:55] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: alright that means that ubuntu is detecting your touchpad and you probably just need to reset it,
[16:55] <Daniel0108> i already resetted it
[16:55] <stlsaint> but i must prepare to leave but im pretty sure that link i sent you has the solution to your problem
[16:55] <Daniel0108> through tpconfig
[16:55] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: hrm, have you touched your xorg at all?
[16:55] <Daniel0108> no
[16:56] <Daniel0108> i just pressed the button
[16:57] <stlsaint> Daniel0108: please via that link and if nothing helps you can try and post a help thread on the ubuntuforums, it may be a bug but i doubt it
[16:57] <Daniel0108> okay
[16:57] <Daniel0108> thanks for your help :D
[17:31] <sleeppy777> I installed open office but only Draw in the menus
[17:32] <sleeppy777> i can only find Office Draw in the menus
[17:33] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: Write, Calc and etc. should be under Office
[17:35] <sleeppy777> no office menu, but i do see Office Drawing under "graphics"
[17:36] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: Try something for me: Open Terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) and run the command openoffice.org-writer
[17:37] <sleeppy777> command not found
[17:38] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: It would appear that OpenOffice.org is not installed. What method did you use to install it?
[17:38] <sleeppy777> add/remove package manager
[17:39] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: You're in 9.04/9.10?
[17:40] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: Try something else for me. In Terminal again, run the command oofice -writer (that's oofice <SPACE> -writer)
[17:40] <sleeppy777> 9.10
[17:40] <aveilleux> er
[17:40] <aveilleux> ooffice -writer
[17:40] <aveilleux> Two Fs
[17:40] <sleeppy777> lemme see
[17:41] <sleeppy777> command not found
[17:41] <sleeppy777> im using backtrack
[17:42] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: The security analyzing derivative of Ubuntu?
[17:42] <sleeppy777> yes
[17:43] <sleeppy777> i think i will delete this partition and try a more user friendly version of Unbuntu
[17:44] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: Weird. Try this: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[17:44] <aveilleux> In Terminal
[17:44] <sleeppy777> ok
[17:45] <sleeppy777> wow, its doing something
[17:46] <sleeppy777> it said setting up...
[17:48] <sleeppy777> it appears to be done, no change to menus, perhaps i should reboot
[17:49] <aveilleux> sleeppy777: I think the menus are disabled. Go to System > Preferences > Main Menu and see if Office is checked
[17:50] <Mohan_chml> aveilleux: hi. I was typing that :D
[17:50] <aveilleux> Mohan_chml: Good morning to you too :P
[17:51] <Mohan_chml> aveilleux: its 20:25 here :P
[17:51] <Mohan_chml> err 22:25
[17:51] <aveilleux> Mohan_chml: NO TIME ZONE EXISTS EXCEPT MY OWN >:V
[17:51] <aveilleux> :P
[17:51] <Mohan_chml> lol
[17:53] <Mohan_chml> sleeppy777: you got any clue?
[17:54] <sleeppy777> no, the menus arent set up sys>preferences>main menu, but still looking thanx
[17:54] <Mohan_chml> goto the "office" at your left column and you will find it there sleeppy777
[18:02] <sleeppy777> thank for the help, later
[18:02] <aveilleux> Good luck, sleeppy777
[18:02] <aveilleux> Aw :(
[18:03] <Mohan_chml> awgood luck :P
[18:03] <Mohan_chml> argh! tab/spell fail :/
[18:41] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: for cases like boywonder i've done well wih multiboot.http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[18:42] <aveilleux> For future reference, nUboon2Age, it's really helpful to have a space after the preceding punctuation mark when you post a URL. That way my client automatically picks up that it's a link.
[18:42] <nUboon2Age> its extremely light because its really just bash scripts using a light gui (don't recall now which one)
[18:42] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: Not to single you out or anything; it's just happened to me like four times in the past day
[18:42] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: good point
[18:42] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: This is very helpful, thank you
[18:43] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: Good thing I speak French :P
[18:43] <nUboon2Age> its an awesome program
[18:44] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: i don't speak french, but on my FF browser the google translate thing pops up so no prob.  but w/ your nick i figured you might speak French
[18:44] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: Actually my name is unrelated to my lineage... I'm not French :P
[18:45] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: that's cool, but since you chose it a figured you might speak french.
[18:45] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: Hehe, I didn't. Veilleux is my actual last name.
[18:46] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: you helped me before this nick when your nick started with a c.  i noted and appreciated your help and noticed when you changed over
[18:47] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: Chesamo was just a name out of a generator, with an apostrophe removed and one letter changed.
[18:48] <nUboon2Age> btw, if you want practice on french, the Ubuntu French help forum where Multiboot is supported is good aveilleux
[18:48] <nUboon2Age> the author is very responsive and nice in my experience.
[18:49] <nUboon2Age> the program includes the awesome ability to drag and drop iso's to test them using virtualbox with zero configuration.
[21:03] <uchobby> Having trouble getting my printer to work with ubuntu. Its a Lexmark 5300, has a built in scanner, but I dont care to make that work, just want to print. Do I need to buy a new printer?
[21:04] <aveilleux> uchobby: If it's a Lexmark, it's unlikely Ubuntu supports it.
[21:04] <Mohan_chml> uchobby: Is that showing up some errors?
[21:05] <uchobby> There is not a driver for it, when I try the other drivers, kind of at random, nothing happens
[21:05] <uchobby> Its a network printer, served by a windows server box
[21:09] <sebsebseb> uchobby: Lexmark are known for really bad Linux support, well its more like what support?  However with recent printers,  I read that they are supporting LInux, even got Tux the Linux penguin on the box.
[21:09] <aveilleux> uchobby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[21:11] <uchobby> Thanks, looks like I need to get a new printer, something from that list maybe, since Lexmark is trying to support Linux now
[21:12] <aveilleux> uchobby: Your best bet is an HP printer though; they have the best support
[21:12]  * uchobby nods, then HP
[21:15] <st33med> Ugh, is anyone having trouble with flash on Firefox? If I go to a non-embedded video, it freezes after two seconds
[21:17] <bobox> Is this an OK place to ask for some help with resizing some partitions for a Lucid upgrade?
[21:18] <uchobby> I dont see HP listed on the supported printer page
[21:19] <Mohan_chml> bobox: ask your query and If anyone knows, surely we will respond
[21:20] <aveilleux> uchobby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HPPrinterInstallation or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[21:21] <aveilleux> uchobby: Almost all HPs are supported out of the box though
[21:21] <bobox> OK, thanks: I've a /usr partition with just 1.99GB unused; the Lucid installer aborts because it needs 2.104GB in /usr. The preceeding
[21:22] <uchobby> thanks aveilleux
[21:23] <bobox> oops. preceeding partition is root, with just 0.764GB of 5.22GB used. Can I shrink root down and 'slide' /usr into the space
[21:23] <bobox> ?
[21:25] <aveilleux> bobox: Yes.
[21:27] <bobox> Thanks aveilleux: would GParted be a good tool?
[21:27] <bobox> ? and how much space shuould I leave for root?
[21:28] <aveilleux> bobox: GParted is good, yes, and shrink it down so /usr has 2.25GB (just some extra room)
[21:32] <bobox> aveilleux: and should both root and /usr be backed up somewhere first, or can GParted be trusted?
[21:34] <aveilleux> bobox: GParted nondestructively resizes, so you're generally safe
[21:37] <bobox> But given that the start of the /usr partition has to be moved, this means the entire contents of the partition have to be moved, yes? which was kindof what was worrying me ... I'll see if i can't figure out some way of backing them up and then goiving it a go. Thanks for your help!
[22:14] <uchobby> How would I make a FTDI USB Serial port work on Ubuntu?
[22:14] <uchobby> I dont see the /dev/ttyUSB#
[22:20] <ju1c3> aveilleux: you there?
[22:20] <aveilleux> ju1c3: I am
[22:21] <ju1c3> aveilleux: so i got hfsprogs up and running and formatted my drive but now i can't mount it
[22:22] <aveilleux> ju1c3: Does it have journaling?
[22:24] <ju1c3> aveilleux: how would i know that?
[22:25] <aveilleux> ju1c3: How did you format the partition again? With GParted?
[22:25] <ju1c3> aveilleux: yea
[22:26] <aveilleux> ju1ce: Have you tried sudo mount -t hfs /dev/<devicename> ?
[22:26] <ju1c3> aveilleux: k one sec
[22:28] <ju1c3> aveilleux: just tried, it gives me the help page
[22:29] <aveilleux> ju1c3: Did you fill in the device name, or actually type "<devicename>"?
[22:29] <ju1c3> aveilleux: i used /dev/sdd
[22:29] <ju1c3> or would i have to use the partition /dev/sdd1
[22:29] <aveilleux> ju1c2: It'd have to be /dev/sdd1
[22:29] <aveilleux> yeah
[22:30] <ju1c3> kk
[22:30] <ju1c3> one sec
[22:39] <ju1c3> aveilleux: it does the same thing, help page
[22:39] <aveilleux> ju1c3: try hfsplus
[22:40] <ju1c3> aveilleux: hfsprogs?
[22:40] <aveilleux> ju1c3: No, hfsplus instead of hfs in the mount command
[22:40] <ju1c3> as type, ic
[22:40] <ju1c3> kk
[22:45] <ju1c3> i think its working. would i mount it to /mnt or ?
[22:47] <aveilleux> ju1c3: Oh, right, duh. I forgot the mount point. Make a new directory in /media called hfs (sudo mkdir /media/hfs) and run the command sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdd1 /media/hfs
[22:47] <ju1c3> so i have two mac drives to copy, where would i mount the other one?
[22:47] <ju1c3> my goal is to dd one to the other
[22:48] <aveilleux> ju1c3: You can just dd /dev/sdd /dev/sdX....
[22:48] <ju1c3> upgrayde! :D
[22:49] <ju1c3> the command i'm using "sudo dd if=/dev/sdd of=/dev/sde"
[22:49] <ju1c3> and i heard its faster if u use a bit number
[22:49] <ju1c3> but i forget the modifier
[22:49] <stlsaint> aveilleux: thats wrong syntax :P
[22:49] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Yeah, blah
[22:50] <stlsaint> aveilleux: 4096
[22:50] <stlsaint> ju1c3: 4096
[22:50] <stlsaint> tab fail
[22:50] <ju1c3> what would be the full dd command with the bit number?
[22:51] <stlsaint> ju1c3: dd if=/dev/rdsk/cXtXdXs2 of=/dev/rdsk/cYtYdYs2 bs=blocksize
[22:52] <ju1c3> kk
[22:52] <stlsaint> ju1c3: well thats a bit extreme you can remove the last entry in both syntaxs
[22:52] <stlsaint> ju1c3: so: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4096 (for example)
[22:54] <ju1c3> kewl, thanks dudes
[22:54] <ju1c3> let u know when its done/if it worked
[22:55] <stlsaint> ju1c3: make sure they are the same size
[23:00] <ju1c3> stlsaint: the new drive is bigger, 150GB -> 260GB
[23:06] <stlsaint> ju1c3: you may run into problems
[23:06] <stlsaint> oh wait you said the new drive is bigger
[23:07] <stlsaint> yea you should just have excess space left over
[23:09] <ju1c3> will the extra space include itself in the 'storage' part of the partitions or will it stay unformatted
[23:10] <stlsaint> ju1c3: it will remain unallocated space until you do somethign with it
[23:10] <ju1c3> can i expand an hfs+ partition?
[23:11] <ju1c3> or would i have to do it within the mac laptop?
[23:12] <stlsaint> ju1c3: you are doing this on a mac?
[23:13] <ju1c3> im on ubuntu 10.04 desktop cloning mac drives
[23:14] <ju1c3> but the desktop has no interwebs
[23:14] <ju1c3> so im on my ubuntu laptop :P
[23:19] <ju1c3> is there a way to get live feedback from dd?
[23:20] <ju1c3> even a loading bar would be helpful