=== almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [07:55] good morning [07:56] Good mornang didrocks [07:56] hey RAOF, how are you? [07:56] I'm pretty good. [07:57] My upper body is very nearly back to normal after the exercise training on Tuesday and Thursday. [07:58] Just in time for *tomorrow's* exercise! [07:58] well, took time, urgh :/ [07:58] ahah === ara_ is now known as ara [09:19] RAOF: Around? [09:19] Yup. [09:20] Just pondering whether it's time to lockup my GPU to get some info for a bug :) [09:20] RAOF: That was quick! That bug, what is the problem? Could you describe so I could look into fixing? [09:21] since I don't have much experience with fixing bugs in plymouth/X/gdm/linux [09:21] but rather in desktop packages like empathy/rhythmbox/brasero [09:21] bilalakhtar: Run the occlusion_query piglit test on a GM45 GPU and watch your friends be amazed! [09:22] This isn't the plymouth “enter kills X exactly once” bug. [09:22] huh? [09:22] fine, I gues RAOF is busy [09:22] That's the bug I'm going to grab some debug info for, not the plymouth one. [09:23] I'm not really familiar with what's happening on the plymouth one, but people who *are* familiar are subscribed, so… [09:23] RAOF: np [09:23] leave it, I'll look further [09:23] It's probably going to be plymouth leaving the tty in an inappropriate state. [09:24] Last time it was leaving the tty in raw mode or something, which caused to send SIGQUIT everywhere. [09:33] mvo: Hi! Do you think we could apply the patch at debian #587771 in the ubuntu cairo package? It is needed for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-ui-and-test-heads. [09:33] Debian bug 587771 in cairo "Package cairo-perf utilities" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/587771 [09:33] mvo: slomo said he will apply the patch with the next cairo update in debian, but that seems too late for ubuntu. [09:37] didrocks: ping [09:38] hey SmSpilla1 (please, use context ping :)) [09:38] didrocks: yeah, sure :p anyways, are you still going to be online in about 4 hours? [09:38] alf__: do you have a link to the patch itself? [09:39] I thought I might give you a hand with the rest of the ubuntu compiz-0.9 packages (*compizconfig*, plugins-* and friends) so that we can have a working ppa :) [09:39] oh, and maybe fix your problem with the gtk decorator too [09:39] SmSpilla1: sure, I'll be there! Sounds good, especially with the little time I have for playing with compiz right now :) [09:40] mvo: the debdiff is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=15;filename=cairo_1.9.14-2version2.debdiff;att=1;bug=587771 [09:40] SmSpilla1: let's discuss that later on, so :-) [09:40] didrocks: sure, thanks [09:40] thank to you :) [09:40] heh, you're the one doing the packaging [09:41] * SmSpilla1 couldn't figure it out, the documentation is_ awful_ [09:41] kiwinote: thanks for your fixes, great work as always, merging now :) [09:42] SmSpilla1: +1 on the documentation :/ [09:42] didrocks: ;-) [09:42] mvo: thanks, just saw the _verify_supported_sort_mode() too, good idea! [09:43] mvo: The patch (without packaging changes of course) is also here https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28865 [09:43] kiwinote: yeah, more robustness :) [09:43] Freedesktop bug 28865 in general "Build cairo-perf-* utils without running benchmarks" [Normal,New] [09:43] alf__: thanks, looking [09:44] hey there [09:44] alf__, why do you ping mvo about that? [09:44] cairo would be rather something to ping didrocks or me about... [09:45] seb128: last touched it I guess [09:45] hey mvo [09:45] seb128: but yeah, it adds new packages, so definitely your domain :) [09:46] mvo: ok, sorry then :) [09:47] alf__, I think it's late to do that this cycle [09:47] the feature freeze is in effect for weeks [09:47] morning ! [09:49] lut huats [09:49] seb128: ok, then I 'll put it in a PPA for now, thanks! [09:49] hello seb128 [09:49] alf__, np, thanks for understanding [09:52] kiwinote: three is the developer week soon, if you are interessted in doing some nice irc presentation (gtk app development, getting started with s-c contributing ;) then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable is the place. it would be nice to have one vaguely s-c releated topic, I will also ask and471 and devildante and tremolux [09:58] mvo: getting started with s-c contributing sounds like something we could do with a few of us. We could cover the basics of bug triaging / commiting code / something quick on the s-c code structure / etc / and I'm sure vish would be interested in highlighting the descriptions/addons metadata changes. [09:59] mvo: I'll send a quick mail around later today to see who's available [09:59] kiwinote: great, thanks! [10:00] and apport is retracing our s-c bugs now :) [10:01] isn't s-c python? [10:01] there is nothing to retrace there [10:02] and current I'm still working on the retracers they should only dupcheck [10:02] yeah indeed, it's dupchecking is what I should have said ;) [10:03] mvo: kiwinote: if we are to have a session about SC , then i dont think 1hr would be enough ..! :D [10:03] * vish hides [10:05] mvo: kiwinote: btw, why isnt the System category not use the applications-system icon? its using the applications-other icon instead.. any reason? [10:05] * vish trying to complete those icons.. [10:08] mvo, do you have any though about bug #630482 [10:08] s/not use/using .. [10:08] Launchpad bug 630482 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Deb packages open with file-roller instead of software-center by default (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630482 [10:09] mvo, should gdebi or s-c be used? [10:09] ignore the file-roller issue ;-) [10:10] seb128: s-c should be used, gdebi should still be available for those who have it installed as a option (gdebi has more features like inspecting the file list) [10:10] good morning everyone [10:10] mvo, ok, will fix it then,t ahnks [10:10] chrisccoulson, hey [10:11] hi seb128, how are you? [10:11] seb128: thanks [10:11] hi mvo [10:11] chrisccoulson, I'm fine thanks, how are you? [10:12] hey chrisccoulson [10:12] seb128 - good thanks, although i'lll be better once i've had some coffee :) [10:12] mvo - does SC actually handle apt: URL's for you in firefox? [10:13] i was doing some debugging in this code in firefox last week for another reason, and i'm convinced we're configuring it incorrectly [10:16] vish: seems like it was a unintentional regression. Fixed it now to use applications-system. Thanks! [10:16] yay! :) [10:17] chrisccoulson: currently still apturl is used it seems [10:19] mvo - ok, so that's consistent then :) [10:20] mvo - the network.protocol-handler.app.apt preference actually doesn't do anything [10:20] i think that might be some legacy preference from an older version [10:20] it actually queries the apt: handler from gconf [10:21] mvo - so, we actually need to set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/apt/command to software-center [10:21] although, when i tried that, i couldn't get it to launch apturl or software-center [10:23] the only preferences we need are network.protocol-handler.external.apt and network.protocol-handler.warn-external.apt, to enable the use of an external handler [10:23] but i'm thinking it might just be better to do this in our vendor-preferences in firefox [10:23] (the ability for applications to drop random preferences in /etc/firefox will be disappearing next cycle anyway) [10:24] chrisccoulson: hm, ok. what needs to be done to make it our vendor pref? [10:25] mvo - well, i can set the 2 keys to enable apt to use an external handler in firefox [10:25] but you need to set the gconf key to actually make software-center the handler for those [10:26] chrisccoulson: afaics we already do that with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~software-store-developers/software-center/trunk/annotate/head:/data/software-center.schemas.in [10:26] chrisccoulson: or are we missing something further? [10:26] kiwinote, AFAICT, apturl is still providing that schema [10:26] so you'd need to drop that too [10:28] indeed, and i think apturl wins when building the defaults by virtue of being first alphabetically [10:28] so, that needs to go :) [11:14] seb128: if w [11:14] urgh [11:14] hi didrocks ;) [11:15] seb128: if we can sync libgpod4 from debian (they took our changes), and they switch to dh7, as this package doesn't have any .desktop file, it's ok, right? (stripping the po is independent from langpack.mk) [11:15] hey chrisccoulson [11:17] seb128: (just adding some magic to generate the .pot file) [11:18] didrocks, they were using dh5 before [11:18] didrocks, so it should not make any difference [11:18] even if I don't understand the "stripping the po is independent from langpack.mk" [11:19] seb128: stripping the po files from the packaging is done without the langpack.mk IIRC, it was just to confirm :) [11:19] the po are moved to langpacks on the server side [11:19] if that's what you mean [11:19] right :) [11:19] thanks for confirming [11:19] correct [11:19] pkgstriptranslations [11:19] you're welcome [11:21] seb128: we will need to build the translation templates too, yes? [11:21] correct [11:21] ok thats easy [11:22] didrocks: can you add that to git? [11:22] use dpkg-vendor like it is in f-spot and then we can take it in the Debian package too [11:22] Laney: sure, one sec [11:22] why can't you just call the one command in the debian rules? [11:22] it generates a pot in the po dir [11:23] thats what we mean [11:23] well without dpkg-vendor [11:23] it seems overworked [11:24] Laney: ^^ you asked me to use dpkg-vendor :) [11:25] well do it if they want it, I just don't see the point there [11:25] lot of packages in debian just added the update call to the debian build [11:25] it takes like 3 seconds of build time without adding a build-depends or anything [11:26] I don't care too much, just in general I like to guard Ubuntu stuff like that [11:26] that's right that the time and the complexity from testing vs running it in any case there doesn't seem too much relevant… [11:26] makes it clear why it's there [11:26] it's not exactly hard to do [11:26] but whatever, if you feel strongly then don't do it [11:26] ok, will add a comment in any case === ogra_ is now known as ogra === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:12] hi mvo :) [12:14] whoops I meant hi all :p [12:27] * nigelb is reminded of a famous bash.org quote, but that one's nsfw [12:39] seb128: FYI, i386 build of libgpod available in ubuntu-desktop ppa [12:39] didrocks, thanks [12:39] seb128: thanks for testing when you have some time :) [12:47] * bilalakhtar hopes seb128 didn't forget about the endorsement [12:48] hey bilalakhtar, no I didn't [12:48] didrocks, you're welcome [12:52] mvo, around? [12:52] devildante: yes, back now (I was at lunch) [12:52] mvo, since you branched 3.0, does that mean we can add new features to trunk? [12:53] in* [12:54] devildante: yes and no, I don't feel like I have the capacity to do proper reviews currently, but I think by thursday next week when we hit the final freeze we can actually do that [12:54] devildante: but feel free to prepare new stuff now :) [12:54] yay! [12:55] or better, look over the buglist and fix one for each new feature in trunk ;) [12:56] heh :) === pedro__ is now known as pedro_ [13:03] hi pedro_ :) [13:04] hey pedro_ [13:06] pedro_: want to break your ipod synchronisation in maverick? you can have a try at new libgpod in the ubuntu-desktop ppa for that when you have some time :) [13:11] hello devildante didrocks [13:11] didrocks, ! ok will give it a try :-) [13:12] pedro_: thanks a lot :-) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:14] pedro_, ola [13:14] salut seb128! [13:15] kiwinote, hi [13:15] hi seb128 [13:15] kiwinote, why did you open a s-c task on bug #629846? [13:15] Launchpad bug 629846 in software-center (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "Open packages (debs) in Ubuntu Software Center by default, not Archive Manager (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 22)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629846 [13:15] seb128, that was just so that we can track it in the s-c bug lists [13:16] kiwinote, but it's not a s-c bug and no change are required to it [13:16] that seems wrong [13:16] why just not subscribing to the bug? [13:18] seb128, ok, will just subsribe next time. (Although it's not a s-c bug, it does affect s-c, so we are interested in tracking it's progress.) [13:18] ok [13:18] your call [13:19] you guys should probably have a software-center-hackers group and subscribe this one to bugs you want to track [13:20] that could well be a good idea [14:00] pedro_, hey [14:00] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bugs?field.tag=apport-package [14:00] seb128, hi [14:00] looking [14:01] pedro_, ^ do you think you could get the upgrade logs and copy the actual error in a comment? [14:01] I can triage those and dup them from that if you want [14:01] seb128, yes, will have a look to that [14:01] or you can dup them if you think they are a same issue [14:01] I've the feeling there is one or two bugs there [14:01] pedro_, thanks [14:01] ok [14:01] argh! too much bug duplicates in usc :p [14:02] lol [14:02] devildante, that will clean the list ;-) [14:02] so retracers are still broken [14:02] but the auto duplication of python crashes is working [14:02] so that is catching up now [14:02] ;) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [14:23] dpm, hi [14:23] hey seb128 [14:23] dpm, how are you? [14:24] dpm, the evo email desktop entry was off in lucid and in maverick until recentlu [14:24] so it's likely the translations were still on rosetta but not in the exports [14:25] seb128, fine, totally relaxed after a week vacation :), and you? [14:25] seb128, ah, yeah, that's what I thought after your comment and Gabor's. So I think we should be fine [14:25] I'm fine thanks [14:25] ok [14:30] just out of curiosity, why do we need 2 desktop entries for Evo? [14:30] because some people consider it as being an office thing [14:30] calendar, etc [14:30] while some people consider it as an email client [14:30] each is trying to use a different category [14:31] so we have one launcher which specifically start the email mode now [14:32] seb128, did some clean up re gdm , they are basically two bugs bug 465678 and bug 613150 [14:32] Launchpad bug 465678 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdm-2.20 failed to install if user selects gdm as default display manager (gdm pre-removal script returned error exit status 10 ) (affects: 29) (dups: 11) (heat: 27)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/465678 [14:32] Launchpad bug 613150 in gdm (Ubuntu) "package gdm 2.30.2.is.2.30.0-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 10) (dups: 7) (heat: 66)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613150 [14:32] seb128, those are worth to look i've requested more info for the others [14:33] we don't have more dups for the first one in a while though [14:33] mvo, are ratings and reviews implemented on the server side? [14:33] the second is recent [14:34] mvo, I might give a try to implement the client side ;) [14:35] pedro_, thanks [14:35] pedro_, the gdm-2.20 was dropping in lucid [14:37] pedro_, I've closed the first one [14:38] seb128, ok , cool [14:39] dpm, welcome back :-) [14:39] devildante: the client is more or less there, the server is the problem [14:39] dpm, i have a bug for you, bug 605577 , we're getting quite a lot of duplicates on that report [14:40] Launchpad bug 605577 in yelp (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Help contents title bar shows cubes with numbers instead of a proper title (affects: 46) (dups: 30) (heat: 344)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605577 [14:40] devildante: well, not with the gtk details, so its probably a good idea to work on it :) [14:40] devildante: but with the webkit backend it was working well [14:40] mvo, thanks for the info :) [14:40] hola pedro_, nice that you've got something for me ;) [14:41] let me have a look... [14:42] dpm, thanks! [14:42] devildante: there is a ratings-and-reviews branch, that is probably a good starting point [14:42] mvo, great, thanks :) [14:42] yw [15:00] hey mvo, some translators have noticed that software-properties has now got like half of the strings it had in Lucid. Before I start investigating if it's a real problem, would you know if there has been any change in s-p that might have caused that? Or perhaps strings have moved to another package or library? [15:03] dpm: it got ported to gtkbuilder, its possible that there was a mistake along the way :/ [15:04] mvo, ah, could it be that the POTFILES.in file is missing the [type: gettext/glade] specifier? [15:04] for the .ui file? [15:04] dpm: yeah, that would be my guess [15:05] mvo, let me check if that's the case [15:05] mvo, do you want me to fix that? [15:05] seb128: sure, if you have a moment [15:06] mvo, ok, doing it [15:06] should be easy [15:06] yeah, that's the case, all .ui files are missing the type specifier [15:06] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/software-properties/maverick/annotate/head:/po/POTFILES.in [15:06] dpm, I'm on it [15:06] cool [15:06] * dpm hugs mvo and seb128 [15:07] * seb128 hugs mvo dpm [15:08] * mvo hugs back :) [15:19] anyone tested libgpod yet? [15:20] I didn't [15:20] pedro_, ^ [15:20] ? [15:22] Laney, I've been using here for a while [15:22] Laney, playing, copy & delete works fine [15:22] I'm using it with rhythmbox [15:38] Laney> Tested in what sense? I've used gtkpod a lot before for my father's iPod [15:43] lucidfox, the new version which is in the ubuntu-desktop ppa since today [15:43] lucidfox, to make sure it's ok to go for maverick or not === bjf is now known as _bjf [16:22] pedro_: oh cool, that sounds fine then [16:23] seb128: are you happy with it being uploaded? [16:23] let's say "yes" ;-) [16:23] it's late for such changes but I think it's better to get it updated [16:24] since it's fixing issue and blocking other changes [16:24] so yeah, please get that uploaded when you can [16:24] cool [16:24] well, it's in main... [16:24] so, didrocks ^^^ [16:24] Laney: requestsync? [16:24] thanks Laney, didrocks [16:24] didrocks: it's not uploaded [16:24] it has been uploaded to debian? [16:24] Laney: ah ok, so -0ubuntu1 for now? [16:24] it will be, but best to ubuntu upload for now [16:24] yes [16:24] doing [16:34] and471, yo [16:34] and471, where is that free spinner image that you started using before for screenshot loading progress in the WebKit view? [16:37] mpt, hey, umm it was the gnome spinner icon in /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/animations/process-working.png [16:37] mpt, do you need it as a GIF (I can probably dig it up in the software-center branch archives) [16:37] ? [16:38] and471, yes, we need to stick it on a Web page :-) [16:38] mpt, ah okay, gimme a few minutes :) [16:40] mvo, bug 631682 [16:40] Launchpad bug 631682 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""Reinstall Previous Purchases" does nothing if there are none (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631682 [16:40] Thanks and471 [16:40] np [16:43] mpt: thanks [16:46] mpt, http://imgur.com/50DkJ [16:47] hey and471 :) [16:51] hey mvo :) [16:53] * mvo hugs seb128 for the s-p upload [16:53] * seb128 hugs mvo [17:01] didrocks: did you miss the intltool change? [17:01] Thanks and471 :-) [17:01] seb128: can you new libgpod? [17:01] Laney: hum? [17:01] you're welcome mpt [17:01] one second ;) [17:01] didrocks: Don't see it in the changelog [17:01] Laney: weird… [17:04] and471, what are you working on at the moment? [17:04] [ Didier Roche ] [17:04] * debian/rules: [17:05] - generate .pot files for launchpad to sync ubuntu from debian [17:05] mpt, kazam and being at a new sixth form :) [17:05] didrocks: ok [17:05] Laney: did I miss something? [17:06] (launchpad is slow to check for now) [17:06] +# Needed for syncing with ubuntu: launchpad needs .pot files [17:06] +cd po; intltool-update --pot [17:06] it's there [17:09] Laney, ok, will do [17:09] the cil are arch all or any binaries? [17:09] seb128: all [17:09] ok, so no need to wait for other builds ;-) [17:11] mvo, kiwinote: hum, you are sure you want s-c to open debs by default? [17:12] seb128, that was the idea. Are there bugs that would make it a bad idea? [17:12] well I just tried [17:12] it shows the deb page for 1 second [17:12] then switch to the installed software view [17:12] I'm wondering if that's because I've the deb I clicked on already installed [17:13] but it's pretty confusing [17:14] urg [17:14] s-c bounces me between "repair" and apport dialogs now [17:15] it refuses to install the ddeb I clicked on [17:15] but the repair option seems to crash [17:19] seb128: what is the backtrace? [17:20] seb128: the switching back is a bug, I have a look (if kiwinote is not faster ;) [17:21] changes = self._get_changes_without_applying(pkg) [17:21] File "/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/apt/aptcache.py", line 288, in _get_changes_without_applying [17:21] pkg.mark_install() [17:21] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/deprecation.py", line 98, in deprecated_function [17:21] return func(*args, **kwds) [17:21] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/package.py", line 1210, in mark_install [17:21] fixer.resolve(True) [17:21] SystemError: E:Impossible de corriger les problèmes, des paquets défectueux sont en mode « garder en l'état ». [17:21] mvo, ^ [17:21] seb128: so you broke your system ;) ? [17:21] "impossible to fix the problems, broken packages are in mode keep in state" [17:21] seb128: what does apt-get install -f tell you? [17:21] that's fixed in trunk [17:21] mvo, no, I just doubled clicked on a ddeb [17:21] kiwinote: I can still reproduce it for already installed packages [17:21] $ sudo apt-get -f install [17:21] Reading package lists... Done [17:21] Building dependency tree [17:21] Reading state information... Done [17:21] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded. [17:21] $ [17:22] mvo, ^ [17:22] kiwinote: oh, yeah, this one is fixed in trunk, sorry I was confused for a moment [17:22] seb128: sorry, was confused, that bug is fixed in trunk [17:22] do you have an open bug for the view switch issue? [17:22] seb128: I shall upload today [17:22] seb128: no, I don't think so, I thought we fixed the jumping issues, but apparenly one has slipped thourgh [17:22] do you want me to open a bug? [17:23] please [17:23] ok [17:23] * mvo gtg for dinner [17:23] mvo, enjoy dinner ;-) [17:23] and target for 10.10 pleae :) [17:23] I will === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [18:22] seb128: gtk-sharp-beans needs NEWing too if you have time [18:23] * Laney starts on the merge of banshee [18:23] Laney, ok === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:52] Amaranth: hey, around? === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [19:12] mvo: the returning to the installed pane overview is fixed now [19:13] mvo: installing broken packages now doesn't trigger apport (ie the traceback above), but the repair cache dialog still seems to be in an infinite loop [20:06] seb128: hi , can you release lp:human-theme for maverick? it just fixes a bug regarding the checkmarks.. , not changes to theme.. someone dropped by in -artwork and was requesting a fix to use that theme :) [20:08] hi [20:08] heh , some people still use tht theme :D [20:08] new gnome-bluetooth is cfrashing at start, it seems there a problem with gsettings [20:09] alf__: cairo with your patch is ready in a few minutes, i'll upload it to debian after pixman is updated there [20:09] alf__: but you can get the packaging from git [20:12] vish, ok [20:12] thanks. :) [20:12] baptistemm, it's fixed in the new update, you can get it on launchpad if you want [20:12] baptistemm, btw did you test if the current version fix your device detection issue? [20:15] no I was about [20:18] alf__: hm, i would if cairo-script wouldn't fail to link... [20:19] seb128: I confirm this is the fix of pitti would solved the problem [20:19] baptistemm, great, thanks [20:25] de nada :) === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro === lhavelun1 is now known as lhavelund [23:10] didrocks: I forgot to sync gkeyfile-sharp. Could you arrange for it to be done? bug #631998 — after this is done and the rest NEWed then Banshee can be built at last [23:10] Launchpad bug 631998 in ubuntu "Sync gkeyfile-sharp 0.1-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631998 === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away