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pfifoI noticed that the livecd is using aufs, and that i cannot mount anything with unionfs. Has ubuntu stopped supporting unionfs? Should I start using aufs in my own projects?04:13
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dholbachgood morning08:14
bilalakhtargood morning dholbach !09:09
dholbachhi bilalakhtar09:10
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ograTheMuso, i would like to see the fix mentioned in bug 631362 merged in pulse, any objections from your side ?09:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 631362 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Maverick) "Include several configuration files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63136209:23
ogra(we need to be able to do arch specific configs on some arm platforms)09:24
tkamppeterAnyone around who could do an update on the seeds for Maverick?09:28
cjwatsontkamppeter: what sort of change?09:40
micahgkdevelop's i386 packages have been pending publication for 3 days now09:42
cjwatsonthey're in NEW, I'll process that in a moment09:43
micahgcjwatson: ok, thanks :)09:43
tkamppetercjwatson, I have introduced putting PPDs in compressed archives in foomatic-db. The ready-made PostScript PPDs are already in such archives as there seed changes where not needed. This saves several MB on the desktop CDs. To save another 18 MB in the installed system I have also a replacement of the Foomatic XML data by a compressed PPD archive, but this needs replacing the requirement of foomatic-db-engine and foomatic-db by the requir09:44
tkamppeterement of foomatic-db-compressed-ppds in the seeds. This makes also the listing of all printer drivers ("lpinfo -m", adding printer with s-c-p) significantly faster. I have discussed this change with pitti last week.09:44
micahgdoh, it says that on the main build page for the version :-/09:44
cjwatsontkamppeter: changing the seeds is premature by a couple of hours, since I'm only just processing foomatic-db-compressed-ppds through the NEW queue ;-)09:44
tkamppetercjwatson, and pitti found it a good idea, and he has helped me to put the correct dependencies into the packages.09:45
tkamppetercjwatson, OK.09:45
cjwatsonsure - it needs to wait until foomatic-db-compressed-ppds is published, but I can make the change then09:45
cjwatsonis there any remaining case where foomatic-db-engine and foomatic-db should be listed?09:45
tkamppetercjwatson, no, end users do not need these two packages any more. Now these packages appear only in build dependencies of other packages.09:46
cjwatsonmicahg: processed09:47
tkamppeterI have taken care of that by modifiying also the gutenprint and ptouch-driver packages where I have also replaced Foomatic XML data by compressed PPD archives.09:47
micahgcjwatson: thanks, sorry, I shouldn't have bothered you for that09:47
tkamppetercjwatson, thanks already now.09:48
cjwatsonivoks_away: is anything happening with bug 527195?  I've promoted a couple of its dependencies, following approved MIRs10:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 527195 in pacemaker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pacemaker" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52719510:13
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cjwatsontkamppeter: done your seed changes11:00
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tkamppetercjwatson, thank you very much.11:14
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cjwatsonhm, I seem to have accidentally made this my archive admin morning11:32
Gttx: can I assume that bug 619302 got SRU approval?11:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 619302 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "kvm -initrd 'file' dumps core if 'file' does not exist" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61930211:39
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happyaroncjwatson: hi, could you have a look at this FTBFS, it seems due to cannot find libopencc-dev. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-pinyin/1.3.10-1/+build/194857812:03
cjwatsonhappyaron: I don't need to look at it :)12:05
cjwatsonhappyaron: I promoted opencc to main, but ibus-pinyin will have tried to build before that was committed to the archive - it just needs to be retried in an hour or two12:05
happyaroncjwatson: oh, thanks12:06
happyaroncjwatson: will the builder retry it automatically?12:06
cjwatsonhappyaron: no, I'll retry it when it's appropriate12:07
cjwatsonwell actually it might12:07
tkamppetercjwatson, I have a question to the seed changes. Will they also affect Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, and especially the netbook editions? Especially on netbooks saving 18 MB on the installed system would be nice.12:13
Riddelltkamppeter: only if you're changing the platform.maverick seed12:14
cjwatsontkamppeter: yes.12:15
cjwatson(the change was in platform.maverick/desktop-common)12:15
cjwatsonUbuntu Studio needed to have the change copied over manually; I've done that12:16
cjwatsonbut the others will pick it up naturally12:16
ttxG: no.12:24
Gttx: it's okay, I was thinking about the wrong bug anyway :)12:34
cjwatsonScottK: why can't all the stuff in kubuntu-meta/README.Kubuntu.update be done by the update script?12:35
Riddellcjwatson: it should be, neither of us have spent the five minutes it would take to do it yet12:35
cjwatsonmaybe we should just take the opportunity to make it a new seed collection.  the current implementation is fundamentally wrong because it causes LP to want to put all the kubuntu-mobile packages in main12:37
Riddellthat would also seem sensible12:39
ogradoko, !12:39
persiacjwatson, Riddell: so, last week we talked about having kubuntu-mobile be a separate seed collection (I filed some of the relevant bugs), and it does require a LP change that would have had to be rolled out today.  The feedback I received all seemed to indicate it would be better to just do MIRs for the kubuntu-mobile stuff (and I think most of them are filed).12:42
cjwatsonwhat LP change?12:42
cjwatsonI suppose12:43
cjwatsonyes, if you wanted Task fields12:43
persiabug #626543 was the bug to make kubuntu-mobile go in universe.  MIRs were bugs #627138 and 62658312:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 626543 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-mobile should be built against universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62654312:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 627138 in kubuntu-mobile-default-settings (Ubuntu) "MIR kubuntu-mobile-default-settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62713812:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 626583 in plasma-mobile (Ubuntu) "MIR plasma-mobile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62658312:44
ogradoko, do you have any idea about OO.o on armel ?12:52
dokoogra: yes, somehow. working on this12:53
ograawesome :)12:53
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bilalakhtarmvo: around?13:46
mvohey bilalakhtar, yes13:46
bilalakhtarmvo: Whenever you have time, could you please endorse https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BilalAkhtar/MOTUApplication ?13:47
bilalakhtarThere is a week before the meeting, so you can endorse on any day13:47
bilalakhtarI just informed you beforehand13:47
mvothanks, will do13:47
bilalakhtarmvo: I should thank you!13:47
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ivoks_awaycjwatson: i'm waiting for aproval of cluster-glue (bug 527142)14:15
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ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/527142)14:15
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cjwatsonivoks: I realise that, but it would be worth responding to the concerns about pacemaker in the meantime, would it not?14:23
ivokscjwatson: of course14:24
alexvalavanisHi there (new to IRC, so please forgive mistakes!)15:27
ttxScottK: sorted out the cobertura-maven-plugin FTBFS situation.15:27
alexvalavanisCan anyone advise how to perform a merge from Debian experimental?15:27
alexvalavanisMoM doesn't seem to cover it15:27
alexvalavanisand there's no lp:debian/experimental/* branch on Launchpad bzr access15:28
ttxalexvalavanis: yes there is...15:29
cjwatsonyou can always do it by hand - save diff from common-base version to current Ubuntu to a file, unpack current Debian, selectively apply patches from file15:29
alexvalavanis@ttx I can't seem to find the branch I wanted: https://code.launchpad.net/debian/experimental/+source/inkscape15:31
alexvalavanisIs there a delay between a debian upload making it into bzr on Launchpad?15:32
ttxalexvalavanis: hmm, indeed15:32
alexvalavanisThanks, cjwatson.  I thought about a manual merge, but I figured there was too much scope for me messing it up!15:33
ttxalexvalavanis: should be in, there must be some import issue15:33
alexvalavanisweird.  So do the Bazaar branches normally sync immediately?15:35
alexvalavanisThe debian/experimental/inkscape upload was made 3 weeks ago15:36
tjaaltontkamppeter: re bug 612578, no change after backporting cups 1.4.4 from maverick16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 612578 in cups (Ubuntu) "Printing fails unless the IPP's are purged, but fails again after "some time"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61257816:04
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Riddellmvo: is there a GUI in Ubuntu Desktop to change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades from lts to normal ?16:24
mvoRiddell: yes, its in software-properties-gtk16:30
mvoRiddell: under "updates/Release upgrades"16:30
Riddellmvo: fooey, that's something I need to add to the kde UI then16:35
shadeslayerRiddell: IIRC theres also a option in synaptic16:35
mvoshadeslayer: its the same dialog they both use16:36
mvoRiddell: ok, should be trivial :)16:36
shadeslayermvo: right.. didnt know that :)16:36
ScottKttx: Cool.16:55
ScottKcjwatson: I'm glad to adjust the kubuntu-mobile stuff as needed.  How it is now is just the best I knew to do in the time I had.16:56
cjwatsonif it's all going into main, then it can stay as it is pending that, I think16:56
cjwatsonif kubuntu-mobile is going to stay in universe, then it needs to be a separate seed collection which as persia says would require a Launchpad change16:57
Riddellmvo: any idea what the mysql-server-core error is here? http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/upgrade/main.log17:12
mvoRiddell: what is the md5sum of that file /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-core-5.1_5.1.49-1ubuntu7_i386.deb ?17:13
Riddellmvo: cad2c149aa7c9521d7794c4589f4cd2c  /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-core-5.1_5.1.49-1ubuntu7_i386.deb17:16
Riddellmvo: hmm, which does seem to be incorrect17:16
mvoRiddell: hm, so fs corruption :/ ?17:17
Riddellmvo: maybe, I'll try the upgrade again17:17
mvoRiddell: iI doner if you can copy it to some other place and do a binary diff on it (compared to a downloadied one)17:17
mvoRiddell: it might be a bit-flip error17:18
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cjwatsonKeybuk: bug 603760 et al: I can easily add /var/run/sendsigs.omit.d/ support to sendsigs, but I don't really feel like playing whack-a-mole to move everything over to that directory, and having /var/run/sendsigs.omit and /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d/ seems wilfully confusing.  Would you object to a new mounted-libinitrw.conf job in mountall that just does 'exec mkdir -p /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d'?17:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 603760 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "Nobody creates /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d (dup-of: 541512)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60376017:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 541512 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "open-iscsi shutdown failure due to missing dir" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54151217:52
cjwatsonthat seems like the easiest fix17:52
Riddellmvo: bug 631708 FYI17:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 631708 in software-properties (Ubuntu Lucid) "no way to change distro upgrade prompt policy in KDE UI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63170817:59
Keybukcjwatson: such things are boot critical path18:02
Keybuk(anything run in a mounted-* is)18:02
cjwatsonKeybuk: do you have an alternative suggestion?18:05
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mvothanks Riddell18:06
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/631548 => bluetooth seems completely broken ...18:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 631548 in gnome-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "bluetooth-properties crashed with signal 5 in g_object_newv()" [Undecided,New]18:08
seb128dupondje, do you have empathy installed?18:09
seb128dupondje, it's likely a known issue for users who remove empathy18:09
dupondjeGLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.Bluetooth' is not installed18:09
dupondjeii  empathy                                                               GNOME multi-protocol chat and call client18:10
seb128ls /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas?18:10
dupondje$ ls /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas18:10
dupondjegschemas.compiled                                            org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Logger.gschema.xml  org.gnome.Empathy.gschema.xml  org.gnome.gcalctool.gschema.xml        ubuntu-artwork.gschema.override18:10
dupondjeorg.freedesktop.gstreamer-0.10.default-elements.gschema.xml  org.gnome.brasero.gschema.xml                 org.gnome.Evince.gschema.xml   org.gnome.Nautilus.Sendto.gschema.xml18:10
seb128oh, I didn't get that update yet18:11
seb128sorry I was confusing with another bug18:11
seb128dupondje, we will fix it18:11
dupondjelets hope :) cause I see bluetooth crashes quite some time :)18:12
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Chipacaapachelogger: ping18:45
dupondjethanks for the fast fix seb128  :)19:04
dupondjeit works, but another thing in the properties view: 'Cannot start 'File sharing'-preferences ... any idea ?19:04
dupondjealso https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/630543 :) but thats not a big issue19:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 630543 in gnome-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "bluetooth-applet no longer offers option to turn off bluetooth" [Undecided,New]19:04
seb128dupondje, you're welcome19:05
dupondjealways cool to see such good response :)19:05
seb128dupondje, not sure about this one19:06
seb128I've seen logs with permissions errors19:06
seb128it could be something else in the stack or a linux issue19:06
seb128I will check that later19:06
seb128gtg for dinner19:06
seb128see you ;-)19:06
dupondjenjoy :)19:08
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gorukahi guys, i tried out the beta because 10.04 worked poorly for me, and it seems i can't use the nvidia driver with the xorg version that comes with 10.10 beta.. any hints?19:49
goruka(nvidia driver says xorg is too new)19:49
beunogoruka, try a support channel, #ubuntu+119:51
gorukaah cool, thanks!19:51
apacheloggerChipaca: pong20:22
Chipacaapachelogger: hi20:23
Chipacaapachelogger: well... I said it as a comment on #375145, dunno if you've read it yet20:24
Chipacaapachelogger: but: sorry to read your comment there. Sad that it probably means we're not getting u1 in kde in m or even close. Sad that we couldn't work together. What went wrong?20:24
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apacheloggerChipaca: in theory it should be working (except that the ubuntu-sso-client misses a kwallet backend), wasnt able to test because of brokenness in maverick20:44
apacheloggerwhat's most importantly missing is a maintainer though20:44
apacheloggeras for what went wrong: general communication problem && moving target && brokenness now and then20:45
* apachelogger would be happy to chat about that at UDS, if he gets sponsored that is ^^20:46
ricotzslangasek, hello, could you have a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/63003021:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 630030 in lxc (Ubuntu) "Sync lxc 0.7.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]21:40
flixilHello. I'm trying to mix branches of software like I used to do in debian. I'm using lucid and I'm trying to mix with the newest in maverik but I cannot access them change lucid for maverik in /etc/apt/sources.list   What is the name I should use?22:32
flixilOh shit sorry I mispelled maverik and it's maverick. Now it works :)22:34
YokoZarBlast, dput via sftp is throwing an exception and I can't upload a new ia32-libs22:44
cjwatsontry ftp22:50
YokoZarcjwatson: doesn't work for ia32-libs on my internet connection22:54
YokoZarI think I figured it out it was a bad dput.cf  because the launchpad blog instructions were missing a step ;)22:54
YokoZarneed to change "incoming = /" to "incoming = ubuntu"22:55
YokoZarwhich I believe doesn't break ftp, so it would be a nice default22:55
LaneyYokoZar: is it "Exception AttributeError: "'NoneType' object has no attribute 'close'" in <function terminate at 0x2695938> ignored"?22:56
YokoZarLaney: Yup22:56
LaneyI get that with every upload22:57
YokoZarLaney: just after "open failed"22:57
Laneybut they still work22:57
YokoZarLaney: I think the "open failed" part is more important22:57
Laneyyes, likely22:57
LaneyI see no other errors22:57
YokoZarLaney: hmm good to know the exception is unrelated to the open failure I suppose22:58
TheMusoogra: I have other pulse changes to make, so sure I'll get it in.23:37
mwhudsonhi, i've found a packaging bug that's been inherited from debian23:38
mwhudsonshould i report it to bugs.debian.org as well as launchpad?23:38
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mwhudsondoes the package importer import uploads from sid?23:44
mwhudsonor just squeese?23:45
* mwhudson urlhacks23:47
cjwatsoncode.launchpad.net/debian/+source/PKG should link to them23:48
mwhudsoncjwatson: actually no, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/python-defaults hides the sid branch a bit23:49
cjwatsonwell, link to something that links to it23:50
cjwatsonthat presentation is a bit of a bug anyway23:50
mwhudsonit probably works ok for ubuntu23:51
cjwatsongiven that sid is the principal upload target for Debian developers, and the principal source for Ubuntu merges23:51
cjwatsonit's wrong both ways23:51
cjwatsonit was OK briefly in lucid when we were doing most of our merging from testing23:51
cjwatsonbut the rest of the time we merge from unstable, and certainly want to know what's going on in unstable23:51
cjwatsonthe problem is that LP really doesn't model testing/unstable particularly well, I suppose23:52
mwhudsoncjwatson: i meant code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PKG is probably ok23:52
mwhudsonbut yeah, launchpad models ubuntu ok and debian poorly23:53
cjwatsonI realised that partway through but reckoned what I said still made sense more or less :)23:53
mwhudsonhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=595826 fwiw23:54
ubottuDebian bug 595826 in python-minimal "python-minimal postinst script should specify complete python path" [Important,Open]23:54

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