[00:32] <chrisccoulson> urgh, the menu's on FF4.0 dailies are broken
[00:32] <chrisccoulson> they don't grab the pointer when they open
[00:32] <micahg> ugh
[10:20] <micahg> chrisccoulson: maverick is pretty cool with memory management, I have almost all my apps open and I'm not hitting swap
[10:20] <chrisccoulson> micahg - that's strange, i'm finding it completely the opposite ;)
[10:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm using xubuntu though :)
[10:21] <micahg> the system cache is being more heavily used
[10:29] <chrisccoulson> i wish i could say that for my system ;)
[10:29] <chrisccoulson> i desperately need to get more RAM though
[10:32]  * micahg needs to go back to sleep now
[10:51] <chrisccoulson> oh, i'm glad the menus are working properly in todays dailies :)
[10:54] <Dimmuxx> will the beta be firefox branded?
[10:59] <chrisccoulson> Dimmuxx, i'm not sure. i don't think it should be though (I think we should only brand our official version)
[10:59] <chrisccoulson> and the packaging currently handles this automatically anyway
[11:01] <chrisccoulson> i've got quite used to the minefield branding now :)
[11:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: maybe not for the betas, since we don't have a lot of testing yet, but maybe for the RCs?
[11:01] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, possibly for RC's
[11:01] <Dimmuxx> but aren't the official betas firefox branded?
[11:02] <chrisccoulson> Dimmuxx, yeah, they are
[11:02] <micahg> Dimmuxx: yes, but we don't have much quality control on the 4.0 branch, so we can't really brand it yet
[11:02] <chrisccoulson> i think we should stick with the unofficial branding for the beta
[11:02] <chrisccoulson> and that requires no packaging changes to handle that :)
[11:02] <Dimmuxx> ah so less work ;)
[11:03] <chrisccoulson> Dimmuxx, well, we added logic to the packaging to select what we think is the branding we should use, depending on the version of the package
[11:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, I now have more upload karma than bug karma, an interesting milestone :)
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> and the way it works currently is:
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> Nightly snapshot => minefield
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> Beta version => unofficial
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> anything else => official
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> micahg - nice!
[11:05] <Dimmuxx> what's the code name for 4.0?
[11:05] <chrisccoulson> Dimmuxx, there isn't really one. it's just "Mozilla Developer Preview" atm
[11:05] <chrisccoulson> that's what the unofficial branding gives
[11:08] <Dimmuxx> ah I wondered why I hadn't seen any code name for it anywhere
[11:08] <Dimmuxx> is the current goal to have the beta ppa ready for the beta 5 release?
[11:08] <chrisccoulson> micahg can possibly answer that one :)
[11:08] <micahg> Dimmuxx: yeah, I'm going to try to push it up the day beta 5 is released
[11:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - you'll also need to grab the patch from mozilla bug 591331 for the beta PPA
[11:09] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 591331 in Breakpad Integration "Allow Linux dumper to work on PTRACE-hardened kernels (Ubuntu 10.10)" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591331
[11:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, will you be able to push the symbols for the builds?
[11:10] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that's just a matter of pushing a new config file to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/+junk/mozilla-symbols-uploader-config
[11:24] <gnomefreak> is there a way to get chromium to save passwords?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> in prefferences i choose offer to save passwords. it is set to offer to save.... but still never asks
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, xul1.9.2 is in the PPA now
[12:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: great, thanks, looks like we're on schedule for release tomorrow
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> yeah, hopefully. it's looking pretty good
[12:11] <chrisccoulson> i'll look at the thunderbird issue after lunch
[12:11] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[12:18] <fta> !info wdt
[12:18] <ubot2> fta: Package wdt does not exist in lucid
[12:18] <fta> !info wdt maverick
[12:19] <ubot2> fta: Package wdt does not exist in maverick
[14:16] <Dimmuxx> micahg: remember the maps.google.com crash I talked about? It works in the latest daily firefox build :)
[15:14] <lfaraone> micahg: so who do I contact on the branding issue?
[15:14] <lfaraone> (for Sugar, that is)
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> lfaraone, trademarks@mozilla.com
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> (http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html)
[15:49] <micahg> Dimmuxx: that's good
[15:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: you should probably be the one to contact for the branding issue
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> micahg - possibly, but i don't feel completely comfortable answering the question
[15:51] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, but at least as far as does Ubuntu/Canonical's agreement cover what he's doing, if yes, then no issue, if no, then they need to figure it out
[16:29] <gnomefreak> micahg: i have a question about instantbird. i want my buddy list in alphbital order
[16:31] <micahg> gnomefreak: I haven't done much with it
[16:31] <gnomefreak> k
[16:31] <micahg> gnomefreak: it should be able to do what pidgin does for the most part
[16:32] <gnomefreak> i don tknow if pidgin did it
[16:38] <gnomefreak> i get this feeling that i can change that in config just not sure where to start but i will test pidgin in a few
[16:40] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, there doesn't seem to be any control over it
[16:42]  * gnomefreak wonders if there is an add-on. do ou have any idea how to browse add-ons
[16:43] <micahg> gnomefreak: try addons.mozilla.org
[16:43] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks i wasnt sure if they would have anything for instantbird
[16:43]  * micahg doesn't know, that's the best idea I have though
[16:44] <gnomefreak> sooner of later i should find one. im sure other sites will help
[16:47] <gnomefreak> micahg: take a look at this, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search/?q=instantbird&cat=all&lver=any&pid=1&sort=&pp=20&lup=&advanced=
[16:48] <micahg> hmm..seems they don't have anything official yet
[16:49] <micahg> yeah, so it seems just those 2 maybe
[16:49] <gnomefreak> that had crossed my mindi guess i live with it being jumbled
[16:50] <gnomefreak> i tired of fileing bugs on pidgina nd instantbird
[16:51] <gnomefreak> micahg: i found more when i used the tools menu
[21:57] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[23:26] <fta> micahg, why is ff 3.6 shipping its own nspr/nss?
[23:26] <micahg> fta: firefox is using minimum system libs now
[23:27] <micahg> we want to make it more like upstream
[23:27] <micahg> xulrunner doesn't
[23:27] <fta> hmm
[23:28] <fta> just got a chromium crash in system nss (memory exhaustion)
[23:28] <micahg> waht release?
[23:29] <fta> 3.12.7
[23:29] <fta> StacktraceTop:
[23:29] <fta>  PR_EnterMonitor (mon=0x0) at ptsynch.c:559
[23:29] <fta>  ocsp_GetCachedOCSPResponseStatusIfFresh (certID=0xbc57910, time=1283811086386742, ignoreGlobalOcspFailureSetting=1, rvOcsp=0xb1be366c, missingResponseError=0xb1be36e0) at ocsp.c:4681
[23:29] <fta>  PKIX_PL_OcspCertID_GetFreshCacheStatus (cid=0xbc4e710, validity=0xbc26680, hasFreshStatus=0xb1be36e8, statusIsGood=0xb1be36e4, missingResponseError=0xb1be36e0, plContext=0xbbfbc90) at pkhostname_pl_ocspcertid.c:231
[23:29] <fta>  pkhostname_OcspChecker_CheckLocal (cert=0xbc3c180, issuer=0xbc3c0d0, date=0xbc26680, checkerObject=0xbc257a0, procParams=0xbb79db0, methodFlags=5, chainVerificationState=1, pRevStatus=0xb1be37c4, pReasonCode=0xbc41230, plContext=0xbbfbc90) at pkhostname_ocspchecker.c:203
[23:29] <fta>  PKIX_RevocationChecker_Check (cert=0xbc3c180, issuer=0xbc3c0d0, revChecker=0xbc26650, procParams=0xbb79db0, chainVerificationState=1, testingLeafCert=1, pRevStatus=0xb1be38d4, pReasonCode=0xbc41230, pNbioContext=0xb1be38dc, plContext=0xbbfbc90) at pkhostname_revocationchecker.c:401
[23:30] <fta> PR_ is nspr, but the rest is nss
[23:30] <micahg> this is on maverick?
[23:31] <fta> yes
[23:32] <micahg> and system nspr as well?
[23:32] <fta> yes
[23:33] <BUGabundo> spammer
[23:33] <BUGabundo> cof
[23:33] <fta> micahg, 4.8.6-0ubuntu1 & 3.12.7-0ubuntu1
[23:36] <micahg> fta: I'll have to look later
[23:39]  * micahg will bbiab
[23:43] <fta> (i was offline, i missed the last 2~3min)
[23:46] <BUGabundo> need the log?
[23:46] <fta> since my last sentence, yes
[23:46] <fta> if any
[23:47] <BUGabundo> see pvt
[23:51] <fta> "Delivery estimate: We need a little more time to provide you with a good estimate" grrrr
[23:52] <fta> 10 more days to wait
[23:59] <BUGabundo> on what?