[00:05] <Blazento> Hello. Is it common for AMS to crash regularly when adding new effects?
[00:08] <holstein> Blazento: alsa modular synth?
[00:08]  * holstein is not a regular user of that
[00:08] <Blazento> right
[00:08] <holstein> Blazento: ask over in #opensourcemusicians
[00:09] <holstein> Blazento: you using JACK?
[00:09] <Blazento> yes
[00:09] <holstein> you could just JACK into rakarrack
[00:09] <holstein> or JACK rack
[00:09] <holstein> or something like these http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/download/index.html
[00:10] <Blazento> cool let me check that out
[00:10] <holstein> i use rakarrack all the time
[00:10] <holstein> with synths
[00:10] <holstein> or whatever
[00:10] <holstein> its really lightweight
[00:11] <Blazento> cool. I was just learning how to program patches with AMS since I like its GUI, but the crashing is too bad
[00:12] <holstein> ive heard good things
[03:22] <kde185> hey my family is thinking of getting a new computer and putting studio on it for sound recording/mixing.  Does anyone know if M-Audio Fast Track Ultra works with it?
[03:23] <holstein> hey kde185
[03:23] <kde185> I'm trying to look up information, but only found information on older versions of ubuntu, if this piece of equipment can't work then it might be a deal breaker for them
[03:23] <kde185> yes?
[03:25] <holstein> this is where i would look
[03:25] <holstein> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-MAudio
[03:25] <holstein> you can ask over in #opensourcemusicians too
[03:25] <holstein> i remember someone having one of those
[03:25] <persia> G3
[03:25] <holstein> and i dont remember
[03:26] <persia> Generally the folks who care for drivers tend to try extra hard to avoid regressions, so when something works with one release, it tends to keep working.
[03:26] <persia> This only doesn't work when folks don't file bugs if something stops working, but most folk do.
[03:26] <kde185> k thanks, hopefully this works cause my family won't be as patient as myself when trying to work with this
[03:26] <persia> That said, M-Audio has a great track-record of making "class-compliant" devices, so that they *don't* need special drivers, and automatically work for any OS.
[03:26] <holstein> kde185: the software is free to try :)
[03:27] <persia> I've never had any trouble with my M-Audio stuff, although I'll admit I don't have that particular device.
[03:27] <holstein> yeah, maudio is generally supported pretty well
[03:27] <holstein> and easy to get running
[03:27] <persia> Well, credit where it's due: rather M-Audio does a good job of supporting linux :)
[03:28] <holstein> w00t
[03:28] <kde185> well we tried it a while ago, but it was on an old computer that didn't have usb 2.0 ports, so I'm not sure where the weak link was in that setup
[03:28] <holstein> more companies should
[03:28] <persia> kde185, Lack of USB2.0 ports basically means no working USB audio, regardless of the device.  There's just not enough bandwidth.
[03:28] <kde185> that's encouraging, I had hoped that the lack of information on the internet meant people weren't having problems
[03:29] <holstein> you can try a live CD
[03:29] <holstein> and see if it shows up
[03:29] <persia> For the longest time, "USB Audio" was considered a joke because of this, and the various differences between "High Speed", "Full Speed", etc.  These days, it's mostly better (as long as you have limited channels/sampling frequency/etc.)
[03:29] <kde185> my experience with those has been kinda iffy, sometimes devices don't work quite right when the OS  is running off a cd
[03:30] <kde185> but giving a shot won't hurt
[03:30] <persia> Kernel should be the same: you might have memory or I/O speed limitations, but stuff ought work.
[03:30] <holstein> troubleshooting audio devices from a live CD can be challenging
[03:30] <holstein> with permissions and what-not
[03:30] <holstein> pop in here when you get a test case going :)
[03:32] <kde185> k, I'll probably jump in once the livecd is running
[04:08] <Blank__> one of my old cards is actually capable of half duplex 24/96 on usb 1.1
[14:40] <sletz> hi, which version of JACK is in Maverick? JACK1 or JACK2 ?
[14:46] <persia> sletz, *both* :)
[14:47] <sletz> what is the defualt one ?
[14:47] <sletz> if any..
[14:51] <persia> I think it's jack2, although I may be mistaken.
[14:53] <sletz> yeah...