| charlie-tca | mr_pouit, cody-somerville : I am considering a blueprint proposal for Natty that includes contrasting colors in the panels and windows. These themes without enough contrast are not okay for visually impaired users | 17:19 |
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| charlie-tca | KE1HA: Anything happening to the docs? | 21:26 |
| KE1HA | Yeah, been working on them a bit after I finished the ISO testing I was doing. | 21:27 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 21:28 |
| KE1HA | Had lots of crashes the last couple days, but seems to e smoothing out a fair bit. | 21:29 |
| charlie-tca | heh, that's good | 21:29 |
| charlie-tca | Maverick is coming together | 21:29 |
| KE1HA | Yeah, I hope they do something whit the art-work on Ubuntu, did care too much for that setup. | 21:32 |
| charlie-tca | I seem to be doing great today. I have managed to not answer almost everything I tried to answer | 21:32 |
| KE1HA | did not .. | 21:32 |
| charlie-tca | That is also in work | 21:32 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit, cody-somerville : I am considering a blueprint proposal for Natty that includes contrasting colors in the panels and windows. These themes without enough contrast are not okay for visually impaired users | 21:32 |
| cody-somerville | charlie-tca, as the default theme? | 21:33 |
| charlie-tca | also pushing accessibility is high on my list | 21:33 |
| charlie-tca | yes, cody-somerville | 21:33 |
| charlie-tca | I need a theme that things show up in. As nice as Abatross and Bluebird are, the contrast is very low | 21:33 |
| charlie-tca | I am also pushing to get a decent high contrast theme into the wiki preferences | 21:34 |
| charlie-tca | My eyes are going nuts again | 21:34 |
| charlie-tca | cody-somerville: I don't know why we could not be the distribution that disabled users flock to, with a theme they can use as default. | 21:36 |
| * charlie-tca puts on leader hat | 21:37 | |
| cody-somerville | If the default theme can look great while being highly accessible than I think that would be wonderful. | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | Of course, it may not be feasible for this to happen, since we could lose users trying to do that | 21:37 |
| * charlie-tca takes off hat | 21:37 | |
| charlie-tca | We just need to get more contrast in the panels and icons, and the text. It is a lot of work to do that. | 21:38 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe we could work at it a little at a time. | 21:39 |
| cody-somerville | A second highly-accessible theme in addition to the default will probably be needed for some users. | 21:39 |
| charlie-tca | Of course, but there are high and low contrast themes that can be used. No matter what we do, not all users will be able to use the defaults. | 21:40 |
| cody-somerville | But we should certainly be conscious of opportunities to improve the default theme's accessibility and reduce eye strain it might be causing. | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | I still have hopes | 21:41 |
| mr_pouit | to achieve that, it is necessary to start "sooner" (e.g. for maverick it was definitely too late) | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | I am not very patient with it, which does make it harder for me to discuss reasonably | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, mr_pouit. I agree. That's why I want to start now discussing it for Natty. If we start with that in mind, it will be easier to work towards it. | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | A theme that is both accessible and nice would really gain users. | 21:50 |
| KE1HA | Here ya go charlie-tca [ awk '$0!="" && !seen[$0]++' *-cfg ] works a treat, got from the guys in the bash channe. | 21:57 |
| charlie-tca | Great! | 21:57 |
| KE1HA | Need it fer docs ;-) among other things. | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, yeah. Got another news article in Ubuntu Weekly News. Trying hard to get one a month about us, at least. | 22:05 |
| KE1HA | The more the better. I saw several requests to Join this or Join that after the last posting, so it has a + affect fer sure. | 22:08 |
| charlie-tca | well, we got to keep trying, that's all. :-) | 22:44 |
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