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omgh4xhey guys, I have a problem with my system here. Ill try to explain it03:14
omgh4xI was working with compiz and cairo dock and now xubuntu boots and is usable for like a second, I think I saw a message pop up about opengl and then I cant click anything and its like my open programs are hidden behind my background03:15
omgh4xreally hard to explain, maybe someone knows something about it03:16
omgh4xit might be an open gl prolblem03:16
omgh4xabout the only think I can access is the ctrl+alt+F103:16
omgh4xany ideas?03:34
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omgh4xanybody here?04:26
Chr|swhats the difference from the other flavors of ubuntu07:14
Sysi!xfce07:14
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels07:14
Sysilike that?07:15
Chr|syeah07:16
Chr|sXubuntu looks cleaner07:16
Chr|sdon't care for the purple crap really07:16
Sysiyou can change themes (while watching language)07:17
Chr|styping crap is not swearing. sorry if it offends you or anyone else07:18
Chr|sSure I can change themes, thats not the problem. Just the login screen I can't change unfortunally07:18
Sysiuse gdm2setup, it's not in the repositories07:19
Sysii think there are gdm2 themes in gnome-look.org07:20
Chr|sYeah, I have used that. It freezes each time I add a new wallpaper, so im not sure07:20
Sysiyou could use xubuntu's window, but idk how to change it07:21
Sysiofc i recommend trying xfce, but it's a bit different07:21
Sysii prefer it, others don't07:21
Chr|ssorry, I have that problem in ubuntu, not sure if Xubuntu I would have that problem or not07:21
Sysigah, i ment theme07:22
Chr|s:)07:24
Chr|sSo Xubuntu is a slimmed down version of Ubuntu, no glammer.  But very useful for using command line techy ppl? lol07:31
Sysii like transparency settings07:32
Sysilot easier than in ubuntu07:32
Chr|sok07:33
jb42hello? how to install ncurses? I got this message:  Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:51
jb42This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:51
jb42is only available from another sourc08:51
jb42I upgraded from karmic yesterday08:52
leet42hello.. what could cause my wifi pci card to be apparently disabled?09:29
leet42it doesnt even show up in lspci09:29
leet42or rather I think it's this: 01:00.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: Device 0001:0002 (rev 01)09:30
leet42loading the module doesnt recognize it.. it did before ubuntu upgrade though09:31
leet42hm?09:59
leet42hm10:57
leet42great sex0r10:57
leet42ultimate tentacle gang bang10:57
leet42messy shit10:57
roniahow can i set a systemwide proxy in xubuntu?11:41
TheSheepronia: what kind of proxy?11:42
roniaehm,sry11:43
roniai use an ssh-tunnel out, and need to set a systemwide socks5 proxy to localhost:999911:43
TheSheepI have no idea about socks5, sorry11:44
Sysii guess some generic linux way would work..11:46
TheSheepfor http proxy it would be http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/187/setting-up-http-proxy-at-console/11:47
TheSheepbut afaik for socks5 the application needs to support it11:47
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roniaokay :)12:07
roniathx12:07
Andrew_PoltavetsHi13:24
knome!hello | Andrew_Poltavets13:24
ubottuAndrew_Poltavets: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!13:24
Andrew_Poltavetshelp me please find some answers :) What name of PPA for Xfce packages? I want to update DE to 4.6 version13:26
knomeAndrew_Poltavets, lucid does have 4.613:27
Andrew_Poltavetshm... if I perform 'aptitude update' >> 'aptitude upgrade', packages xfce* will be 4.6's versions?13:29
Sysiwhat version of xubuntu?13:29
Andrew_Poltavets10.0413:30
Andrew_PoltavetsGenerally I am KDE user, cause I am not fully understanding this DE. But today I was decided try nice light Xfce environment with some my favourite KDE-applications. ^_^13:33
Andrew_PoltavetsSo, I am performed 'aptitude update' >> 'aptitude upgrade' and nothing to be update13:35
leet42go xfce13:35
Sysiaptitude show xfce413:35
leet42with a little imagination, go fluxbox <313:36
leet42(da best WM ever)13:37
bazhang!ot | leet4213:38
ubottuleet42: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!13:38
Andrew_Poltavetsoops, sorry, aptitude show that I am already have 4.6 version... =) sorry, again, people!13:38
Andrew_Poltavetsleet42, fluxbox? =) Looks like I have one time tried this. Nice. But need some time to polish it13:39
leet42bazhang: there's noone in there13:39
bazhangleet42, does not matter. this is a support channel so please stay on topic.13:40
charlie-tcaleet42: you are also welcome to use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter13:42
Andrew_PoltavetsThanks for help. :)13:43
Andrew_Poltavetsbtw... seems I like Xfce! )13:43
jb__hello, how do I get my vanilla kernel to boot? it says something about root fs cannot be mounted on unknown block14:13
jb__i've put this in grub:14:13
jb__menuentry "vanilla kernel 2.6.34-5" {14:14
jb__        set root='(hd0,7)'14:14
jb__        linux /boot/linux-2.6.34-5 root=UUID=3824b94d-3f34-4cbb-9294-0e93b20c8b67 ro quiet splash14:14
jb__(unsure what the UUID shit is but i copied from other entries)14:14
Sysidid you remember to compile support for rootfs14:14
charlie-tca!language | jb__14:15
ubottujb__: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.14:15
jb__Sysi, I copied the config from the ubuntu kernel14:16
jb__so it's should be identical14:16
jb__im not familar with this grub2 stuff14:16
Sysi!grub214:17
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub214:17
jb__Sysi, older entries I have in there use the syntax root=/dev/hda3 instead of "UUID"14:17
jb__it's still not working. it says cannot open root 'sda7' or unknown 0,0 or something14:33
jb__i've used the simplest possible syntax there14:33
jb__        set root='(hd0,7)'14:33
jb__        linux /boot/linux-2.6.34-5 root=/dev/sda7 ro14:33
Sysiyou should use pastebin for longer than two lines14:34
jb__that was 2 lines14:39
bazhang414:39
jb__lol14:39
jb__I pasted 2 lines14:39
jb__(I know what I did)14:40
bazhanguse pastebin14:40
Sysiit's more clear14:40
jb__please help booting wont work, see http://pastebin.com/UcwnHM0D it says it cannot mount root fs14:44
Xberthow do i replace xfcewm with compiz?15:37
Sysicompiz --replace15:38
Sysiafter of course installing it15:38
Xbertyeah that it running it but i want to replace the wm at boot15:38
Sysisettings → session and startup15:39
Xbertit loads at random times then, before 4.6 i use to replace a line in /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc but 4.6 doesnt use that file15:41
Xberti want compiz to load before google gadgets15:41
Xbertif i delay it with a script it slow the whole desktop loading15:42
slow-motionhi16:11
Arpad2where can I ask for SIP/voip software help?17:41
Arpad2i tried to make voip call with both qutecom and twinkle , but the recipient couldnt hear me, is it sth with codec, can snb help me , please?17:52
TheSheepArpad2: did you verify that your microphone is working first?18:05
Arpad2i didint18:08
Arpad2how to do that?18:08
TheSheepthat may be the reason, you could use some kind of recording software18:09
TheSheepwait18:09
TheSheepif you click on the speaker icon next to your clock with right mouse button, and select 'preferences'18:09
TheSheepyou will see a window with some tabs and sliders, if you switch to the 'input' tab, you will have an "input level" indicator in there18:10
Arpad2i have properties18:10
TheSheepif that moves when you speak to your microphone, then it works18:10
TheSheephmm... no 'sound preferences'?18:10
TheSheepwhich version of xubuntu is it, by the way?18:11
Arpad210.0418:11
Arpad2but microphone was on mute:)18:11
TheSheep\o/18:12
Arpad2and next to my clock is Mixert18:12
Arpad2-t18:12
TheSheepI think some version of xubuntu used the gnome volume applet, it has the window I meant18:13
TheSheepnevermind18:13
Arpad2but there is #qutecom :)18:21
ggyytti just installed xubuntu 10.04 and it has been updating for 7 hours, is this normal19:46
charlie-tcaNot unless you are using a 2400 baud modem19:47
ggyyttits a dsl19:47
charlie-tcaI think it got lost19:47
ggyyttsaid ihad 198 updates19:48
ggyytti have 2.4 p4 and 512 rdram19:48
charlie-tcaIs it still showing anything happening?19:48
ggyyttyes19:49
charlie-tcaIt could be just a really slow connection to the server, for some reason19:49
ggyyttthe bar stll moves occassionally and a black screen shows python and stuff being chanded19:49
ggyyttchanged*19:50
charlie-tcait is updating then.19:50
ggyyttyes seems to be19:50
ggyytti updated my ole xubuntu 904 machine a couple days ago and it went fast19:51
charlie-tcaIt normally should19:51
ggyyttbut then again 904 always was fast19:51
charlie-tcaI hesitate to say stop it and try again, though19:51
charlie-tcasometimes that is worse than waiting19:51
ggyyttyeah im afraid to stop19:52
ggyyttmaybe it cos i left firefox opn19:52
ggyyttopen19:52
ggyytti wrote a 2 page document on how i did a clean install of xubuntu 10.04 on  a 5 gig partition beside xp pro sp3,,,step by step. i wonder if that would be of any use to the xubuntu team?19:55
ggyyttoops on a 25 gig partition i meant...19:55
charlie-tca!panels19:57
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/19:57
ggyytthmm not that i know of...ill look again19:58
ggyyttis 1004 stable19:58
charlie-tcano, I did that19:59
charlie-tca10.04 is stable19:59
ggyyttim on a w7 laptop now dul booting ubuntu 1004 and it seems perfect20:00
charlie-tcaCould you take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and see if it is missing anything for Xubuntu or if anything xubuntu specific should be added?20:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 1004 in Baz (deprecated) "UI request: baz mkdir" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100420:00
charlie-tcaIgnore that one too, from ubottu20:00
ggyyttyes ill look now20:00
ggyytti found it simple to do even though many complain that it is hard to accomplish20:01
ggyyttyes that is a well written document20:03
ggyyttmine is more specific for less educated users20:04
charlie-tcaWe try hard. Actually, without windows here, it isn't even possible to verify any procedure...20:04
ggyytti had read that document a few times before i attempted it20:04
ggyyttbut when  i actually did it i realized the documnt was more of a broad beased overview20:05
ggyyttso in a way i felt like i was on my own when i did it20:06
ggyyttone thing i will say, the whole thing went so smooth because the xubuntu team had that "use grub bootloader box" per-checked, and it had already highlighted the "install side by side" option...in the end these 2 assumed choices saved me...if not for that i was gonna over think the whole thing.20:09
charlie-tcaheh20:11
charlie-tcaThank the installer team for that one, then.20:11
charlie-tcaIf a more specific document will be an improvement, we could add yours to the wiki20:12
ggyyttin the tutorials, it doesnt actally tell people how the software guides to the correct answer so when the user 1st decides to try they have no idea how it actally plays out20:12
ggyyttplus from the windows side of it....there partitio builder is clunky and my instructions fix that too20:13
charlie-tcaWe could add it as a page to this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu20:14
charlie-tcaWe just add a link at the bottom - Installing with Windows20:15
charlie-tcaor something like that20:15
ggyyttok...im still polishing the document, prolly 75 % done20:17
ggyyttits totally hands on...20:17
ggyytti think a newbie can do it the way im writing it20:21
charlie-tcaThat would be good!20:23
charlie-tcaIt's always good to have stuff the new people can do20:23
ggyyttim purposely writing it that way20:23
slow-motionhi20:25
ggyyttoff to work, when im done ill submit it, i get the emails fron all of you so ill prolly attach it ans send it back before end of the week....20:25
vishcharlie-tca: hi , does xubuntu have an artwork mailing list or channel?21:07
vishi dont think there is a irc channel21:08
charlie-tcahmm, #xubuntu-devel21:08
charlie-tcaand the xubuntu-devel mailing list21:08
charlie-tcaor contact #shimmer21:08
charlie-tcaor we ask knome and ochosi_21:08
vishyeah , knome hangs out in #ubuntu-artowrk21:09
vishand dashua too21:09
charlie-tcabut, no, we don't have a specific channel for xubuntu-artwork21:09
vishcharlie-tca: cool, i was mainly wondering if xubuntu art can be dealt with in ubuntu-artwork Mailing list itself21:09
vishnot many seem to know they can help with xubuntu21:10
charlie-tcaUsually we deal with it in xubuntu-devel21:10
charlie-tcaI didn't even know ubuntu had an artwork list. I guess I should join it if they are discussing this stuff21:10
vishyeah.. traditionally -devel was the place , but why i was concerned is , there were many people who said hi on the ubuntu-artwork ML but they dont get to work on any art21:11
charlie-tcaOkay, I will sign up and see if I can follow it.21:12
vishhehe , not much going on now.. since they dont get to work there , rarely chat goes on there. :(21:12
vishtrying to get maybe we could get more artists involved in xubuntu/kubuntu in general..21:13
charlie-tcaOf course, it seems not very many want to work on much, too. I did issue an open art call, and got three people that responded21:13
vish:(21:13
charlie-tcaartists are kind of different :-)21:13
vishwell , anyone! :D21:14
charlie-tcacome to think of it, my niece is too! and she's also an artist21:14
charlie-tcaBut I can sign up for the mailing list, and we can try to get them more involved21:15
vishneat, yeah! , there is lack of awareness mainly...  not many know how they can help..21:16
vishi'm thinking of hitting a mail in a couple of weeks about the state of affairs , will mention xubuntu too :)21:16
vishcharlie-tca: hehe , just noticed you mailing host :D "teamcharliesangels "  !21:17
charlie-tcaThanks21:18
charlie-tcayup, and my website too21:18
vishi initially though -tca meant tango.. charlie , and a.. wasnt sure21:18
charlie-tcaheh21:18
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vishhehe , enough sleep talking.. ;)21:22
* vish really goes to sleep :)21:23
charlie-tcaThanks for the suggestions21:23
vishcharlie-tca: np.. thanks.. i'll hit the mail in a couple of weeks :)21:23
KE1HAcharlie-tca:  vish you guy guys any good with Bash, I need some help with a command.21:25
charlie-tcaNot too. but ask anyway21:25
KE1HAIve got about 50 files, with anywhere between 100 to 200 file names, and I want to concentrate them, there all test files. This is working, but want to try an avoid cat & awk if I can21:26
KE1HA[ cat *-cfg | uniq | awk '$0!~/^$/ {print $0}' > final-list ]21:26
* charlie-tca thinks that is way over his head21:27
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