[03:14] <omgh4x> hey guys, I have a problem with my system here. Ill try to explain it
[03:15] <omgh4x> I was working with compiz and cairo dock and now xubuntu boots and is usable for like a second, I think I saw a message pop up about opengl and then I cant click anything and its like my open programs are hidden behind my background
[03:16] <omgh4x> really hard to explain, maybe someone knows something about it
[03:16] <omgh4x> it might be an open gl prolblem
[03:16] <omgh4x> about the only think I can access is the ctrl+alt+F1
[03:34] <omgh4x> any ideas?
[04:26] <omgh4x> anybody here?
[07:14] <Chr|s> whats the difference from the other flavors of ubuntu
[07:14] <Sysi> !xfce
[07:15] <Sysi> like that?
[07:16] <Chr|s> yeah
[07:16] <Chr|s> Xubuntu looks cleaner
[07:16] <Chr|s> don't care for the purple crap really
[07:17] <Sysi> you can change themes (while watching language)
[07:18] <Chr|s> typing crap is not swearing. sorry if it offends you or anyone else
[07:18] <Chr|s> Sure I can change themes, thats not the problem. Just the login screen I can't change unfortunally
[07:19] <Sysi> use gdm2setup, it's not in the repositories
[07:20] <Sysi> i think there are gdm2 themes in gnome-look.org
[07:20] <Chr|s> Yeah, I have used that. It freezes each time I add a new wallpaper, so im not sure
[07:21] <Sysi> you could use xubuntu's window, but idk how to change it
[07:21] <Sysi> ofc i recommend trying xfce, but it's a bit different
[07:21] <Sysi> i prefer it, others don't
[07:21] <Chr|s> sorry, I have that problem in ubuntu, not sure if Xubuntu I would have that problem or not
[07:22] <Sysi> gah, i ment theme
[07:24] <Chr|s> :)
[07:31] <Chr|s> So Xubuntu is a slimmed down version of Ubuntu, no glammer.  But very useful for using command line techy ppl? lol
[07:32] <Sysi> i like transparency settings
[07:32] <Sysi> lot easier than in ubuntu
[07:33] <Chr|s> ok
[08:51] <jb42> hello? how to install ncurses? I got this message:  Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:51] <jb42> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:51] <jb42> is only available from another sourc
[08:52] <jb42> I upgraded from karmic yesterday
[09:29] <leet42> hello.. what could cause my wifi pci card to be apparently disabled?
[09:29] <leet42> it doesnt even show up in lspci
[09:30] <leet42> or rather I think it's this: 01:00.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: Device 0001:0002 (rev 01)
[09:31] <leet42> loading the module doesnt recognize it.. it did before ubuntu upgrade though
[09:59] <leet42> hm?
[10:57] <leet42> hm
[10:57] <leet42> great sex0r
[10:57] <leet42> ultimate tentacle gang bang
[10:57] <leet42> messy shit
[11:41] <ronia> how can i set a systemwide proxy in xubuntu?
[11:42] <TheSheep> ronia: what kind of proxy?
[11:43] <ronia> ehm,sry
[11:43] <ronia> i use an ssh-tunnel out, and need to set a systemwide socks5 proxy to localhost:9999
[11:44] <TheSheep> I have no idea about socks5, sorry
[11:46] <Sysi> i guess some generic linux way would work..
[11:47] <TheSheep> for http proxy it would be http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/187/setting-up-http-proxy-at-console/
[11:47] <TheSheep> but afaik for socks5 the application needs to support it
[12:07] <ronia> okay :)
[12:07] <ronia> thx
[13:24] <Andrew_Poltavets> Hi
[13:24] <knome> !hello | Andrew_Poltavets
[13:26] <Andrew_Poltavets> help me please find some answers :) What name of PPA for Xfce packages? I want to update DE to 4.6 version
[13:27] <knome> Andrew_Poltavets, lucid does have 4.6
[13:29] <Andrew_Poltavets> hm... if I perform 'aptitude update' >> 'aptitude upgrade', packages xfce* will be 4.6's versions?
[13:29] <Sysi> what version of xubuntu?
[13:30] <Andrew_Poltavets> 10.04
[13:33] <Andrew_Poltavets> Generally I am KDE user, cause I am not fully understanding this DE. But today I was decided try nice light Xfce environment with some my favourite KDE-applications. ^_^
[13:35] <Andrew_Poltavets> So, I am performed 'aptitude update' >> 'aptitude upgrade' and nothing to be update
[13:35] <leet42> go xfce
[13:35] <Sysi> aptitude show xfce4
[13:36] <leet42> with a little imagination, go fluxbox <3
[13:37] <leet42> (da best WM ever)
[13:38] <bazhang> !ot | leet42
[13:38] <Andrew_Poltavets> oops, sorry, aptitude show that I am already have 4.6 version... =) sorry, again, people!
[13:39] <Andrew_Poltavets> leet42, fluxbox? =) Looks like I have one time tried this. Nice. But need some time to polish it
[13:39] <leet42> bazhang: there's noone in there
[13:40] <bazhang> leet42, does not matter. this is a support channel so please stay on topic.
[13:42] <charlie-tca> leet42: you are also welcome to use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[13:43] <Andrew_Poltavets> Thanks for help. :)
[13:43] <Andrew_Poltavets> btw... seems I like Xfce! )
[14:13] <jb__> hello, how do I get my vanilla kernel to boot? it says something about root fs cannot be mounted on unknown block
[14:13] <jb__> i've put this in grub:
[14:14] <jb__> menuentry "vanilla kernel 2.6.34-5" {
[14:14] <jb__>         set root='(hd0,7)'
[14:14] <jb__>         linux /boot/linux-2.6.34-5 root=UUID=3824b94d-3f34-4cbb-9294-0e93b20c8b67 ro quiet splash
[14:14] <jb__> (unsure what the UUID shit is but i copied from other entries)
[14:14] <Sysi> did you remember to compile support for rootfs
[14:15] <charlie-tca> !language | jb__
[14:16] <jb__> Sysi, I copied the config from the ubuntu kernel
[14:16] <jb__> so it's should be identical
[14:16] <jb__> im not familar with this grub2 stuff
[14:17] <Sysi> !grub2
[14:17] <jb__> Sysi, older entries I have in there use the syntax root=/dev/hda3 instead of "UUID"
[14:33] <jb__> it's still not working. it says cannot open root 'sda7' or unknown 0,0 or something
[14:33] <jb__> i've used the simplest possible syntax there
[14:33] <jb__>         set root='(hd0,7)'
[14:33] <jb__>         linux /boot/linux-2.6.34-5 root=/dev/sda7 ro
[14:34] <Sysi> you should use pastebin for longer than two lines
[14:39] <jb__> that was 2 lines
[14:39] <bazhang> 4
[14:39] <jb__> lol
[14:39] <jb__> I pasted 2 lines
[14:40] <jb__> (I know what I did)
[14:40] <bazhang> use pastebin
[14:40] <Sysi> it's more clear
[14:44] <jb__> please help booting wont work, see http://pastebin.com/UcwnHM0D it says it cannot mount root fs
[15:37] <Xbert> how do i replace xfcewm with compiz?
[15:38] <Sysi> compiz --replace
[15:38] <Sysi> after of course installing it
[15:38] <Xbert> yeah that it running it but i want to replace the wm at boot
[15:39] <Sysi> settings → session and startup
[15:41] <Xbert> it loads at random times then, before 4.6 i use to replace a line in /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc but 4.6 doesnt use that file
[15:41] <Xbert> i want compiz to load before google gadgets
[15:42] <Xbert> if i delay it with a script it slow the whole desktop loading
[16:11] <slow-motion> hi
[17:41] <Arpad2> where can I ask for SIP/voip software help?
[17:52] <Arpad2> i tried to make voip call with both qutecom and twinkle , but the recipient couldnt hear me, is it sth with codec, can snb help me , please?
[18:05] <TheSheep> Arpad2: did you verify that your microphone is working first?
[18:08] <Arpad2> i didint
[18:08] <Arpad2> how to do that?
[18:09] <TheSheep> that may be the reason, you could use some kind of recording software
[18:09] <TheSheep> wait
[18:09] <TheSheep> if you click on the speaker icon next to your clock with right mouse button, and select 'preferences'
[18:10] <TheSheep> you will see a window with some tabs and sliders, if you switch to the 'input' tab, you will have an "input level" indicator in there
[18:10] <Arpad2> i have properties
[18:10] <TheSheep> if that moves when you speak to your microphone, then it works
[18:10] <TheSheep> hmm... no 'sound preferences'?
[18:11] <TheSheep> which version of xubuntu is it, by the way?
[18:11] <Arpad2> 10.04
[18:11] <Arpad2> but microphone was on mute:)
[18:12] <TheSheep> \o/
[18:12] <Arpad2> and next to my clock is Mixert
[18:12] <Arpad2> -t
[18:13] <TheSheep> I think some version of xubuntu used the gnome volume applet, it has the window I meant
[18:13] <TheSheep> nevermind
[18:21] <Arpad2> but there is #qutecom :)
[19:46] <ggyytt> i just installed xubuntu 10.04 and it has been updating for 7 hours, is this normal
[19:47] <charlie-tca> Not unless you are using a 2400 baud modem
[19:47] <ggyytt> its a dsl
[19:47] <charlie-tca> I think it got lost
[19:48] <ggyytt> said ihad 198 updates
[19:48] <ggyytt> i have 2.4 p4 and 512 rdram
[19:48] <charlie-tca> Is it still showing anything happening?
[19:49] <ggyytt> yes
[19:49] <charlie-tca> It could be just a really slow connection to the server, for some reason
[19:49] <ggyytt> the bar stll moves occassionally and a black screen shows python and stuff being chanded
[19:50] <ggyytt> changed*
[19:50] <charlie-tca> it is updating then.
[19:50] <ggyytt> yes seems to be
[19:51] <ggyytt> i updated my ole xubuntu 904 machine a couple days ago and it went fast
[19:51] <charlie-tca> It normally should
[19:51] <ggyytt> but then again 904 always was fast
[19:51] <charlie-tca> I hesitate to say stop it and try again, though
[19:51] <charlie-tca> sometimes that is worse than waiting
[19:52] <ggyytt> yeah im afraid to stop
[19:52] <ggyytt> maybe it cos i left firefox opn
[19:52] <ggyytt> open
[19:55] <ggyytt> i wrote a 2 page document on how i did a clean install of xubuntu 10.04 on  a 5 gig partition beside xp pro sp3,,,step by step. i wonder if that would be of any use to the xubuntu team?
[19:55] <ggyytt> oops on a 25 gig partition i meant...
[19:57] <charlie-tca> !panels
[19:58] <ggyytt> hmm not that i know of...ill look again
[19:58] <ggyytt> is 1004 stable
[19:59] <charlie-tca> no, I did that
[19:59] <charlie-tca> 10.04 is stable
[20:00] <ggyytt> im on a w7 laptop now dul booting ubuntu 1004 and it seems perfect
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Could you take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and see if it is missing anything for Xubuntu or if anything xubuntu specific should be added?
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Ignore that one too, from ubottu
[20:00] <ggyytt> yes ill look now
[20:01] <ggyytt> i found it simple to do even though many complain that it is hard to accomplish
[20:03] <ggyytt> yes that is a well written document
[20:04] <ggyytt> mine is more specific for less educated users
[20:04] <charlie-tca> We try hard. Actually, without windows here, it isn't even possible to verify any procedure...
[20:04] <ggyytt> i had read that document a few times before i attempted it
[20:05] <ggyytt> but when  i actually did it i realized the documnt was more of a broad beased overview
[20:06] <ggyytt> so in a way i felt like i was on my own when i did it
[20:09] <ggyytt> one thing i will say, the whole thing went so smooth because the xubuntu team had that "use grub bootloader box" per-checked, and it had already highlighted the "install side by side" option...in the end these 2 assumed choices saved me...if not for that i was gonna over think the whole thing.
[20:11] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:11] <charlie-tca> Thank the installer team for that one, then.
[20:12] <charlie-tca> If a more specific document will be an improvement, we could add yours to the wiki
[20:12] <ggyytt> in the tutorials, it doesnt actally tell people how the software guides to the correct answer so when the user 1st decides to try they have no idea how it actally plays out
[20:13] <ggyytt> plus from the windows side of it....there partitio builder is clunky and my instructions fix that too
[20:14] <charlie-tca> We could add it as a page to this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu
[20:15] <charlie-tca> We just add a link at the bottom - Installing with Windows
[20:15] <charlie-tca> or something like that
[20:17] <ggyytt> ok...im still polishing the document, prolly 75 % done
[20:17] <ggyytt> its totally hands on...
[20:21] <ggyytt> i think a newbie can do it the way im writing it
[20:23] <charlie-tca> That would be good!
[20:23] <charlie-tca> It's always good to have stuff the new people can do
[20:23] <ggyytt> im purposely writing it that way
[20:25] <slow-motion> hi
[20:25] <ggyytt> off to work, when im done ill submit it, i get the emails fron all of you so ill prolly attach it ans send it back before end of the week....
[21:07] <vish> charlie-tca: hi , does xubuntu have an artwork mailing list or channel?
[21:08] <vish> i dont think there is a irc channel
[21:08] <charlie-tca> hmm, #xubuntu-devel
[21:08] <charlie-tca> and the xubuntu-devel mailing list
[21:08] <charlie-tca> or contact #shimmer
[21:08] <charlie-tca> or we ask knome and ochosi_
[21:09] <vish> yeah , knome hangs out in #ubuntu-artowrk
[21:09] <vish> and dashua too
[21:09] <charlie-tca> but, no, we don't have a specific channel for xubuntu-artwork
[21:09] <vish> charlie-tca: cool, i was mainly wondering if xubuntu art can be dealt with in ubuntu-artwork Mailing list itself
[21:10] <vish> not many seem to know they can help with xubuntu
[21:10] <charlie-tca> Usually we deal with it in xubuntu-devel
[21:10] <charlie-tca> I didn't even know ubuntu had an artwork list. I guess I should join it if they are discussing this stuff
[21:11] <vish> yeah.. traditionally -devel was the place , but why i was concerned is , there were many people who said hi on the ubuntu-artwork ML but they dont get to work on any art
[21:12] <charlie-tca> Okay, I will sign up and see if I can follow it.
[21:12] <vish> hehe , not much going on now.. since they dont get to work there , rarely chat goes on there. :(
[21:13] <vish> trying to get maybe we could get more artists involved in xubuntu/kubuntu in general..
[21:13] <charlie-tca> Of course, it seems not very many want to work on much, too. I did issue an open art call, and got three people that responded
[21:13] <vish> :(
[21:13] <charlie-tca> artists are kind of different :-)
[21:14] <vish> well , anyone! :D
[21:14] <charlie-tca> come to think of it, my niece is too! and she's also an artist
[21:15] <charlie-tca> But I can sign up for the mailing list, and we can try to get them more involved
[21:16] <vish> neat, yeah! , there is lack of awareness mainly...  not many know how they can help..
[21:16] <vish> i'm thinking of hitting a mail in a couple of weeks about the state of affairs , will mention xubuntu too :)
[21:17] <vish> charlie-tca: hehe , just noticed you mailing host :D "teamcharliesangels "  !
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[21:18] <charlie-tca> yup, and my website too
[21:18] <vish> i initially though -tca meant tango.. charlie , and a.. wasnt sure
[21:18] <charlie-tca> heh
[21:22] <vish> hehe , enough sleep talking.. ;)
[21:23]  * vish really goes to sleep :)
[21:23] <charlie-tca> Thanks for the suggestions
[21:23] <vish> charlie-tca: np.. thanks.. i'll hit the mail in a couple of weeks :)
[21:25] <KE1HA> charlie-tca:  vish you guy guys any good with Bash, I need some help with a command.
[21:25] <charlie-tca> Not too. but ask anyway
[21:26] <KE1HA> Ive got about 50 files, with anywhere between 100 to 200 file names, and I want to concentrate them, there all test files. This is working, but want to try an avoid cat & awk if I can
[21:26] <KE1HA> [ cat *-cfg | uniq | awk '$0!~/^$/ {print $0}' > final-list ]
[21:27]  * charlie-tca thinks that is way over his head
[22:10] <slow-motion> n8