[00:13] [muon] jmthomas * 1172332 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Check the URI to determine the uniqueness of an entry for the DownloadModel. [00:37] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1172335 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/workeracquire.cpp Call updateStatus() in WorkerAcquire::Done() so that we can set the percentage to 100% when an item finished downloading [00:37] * claydoh|werk contemplates installing Hardy as there are quite a few holdouts making the move from 8.04 to 10.04 [00:40] and a few going back to kde3 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:24] http://imgur.com/1Xfh2 [01:46] [muon] jmthomas * 1172341 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Pretty up the Download view a bit. Still needs some work. [02:03] [muon] jmthomas * 1172346 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Bring back feature parity with the old DownloadWidget by showing Done once an item is done downloading, "Hit" if a hit occurs, and "Ignored" if a package is ignored. [02:35] http://imgur.com/dSEwV yey [02:37] [muon] jmthomas * 1172350 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/DownloadModel/ (DownloadDelegate.cpp DownloadDelegate.h DownloadModel.cpp) - Add a size column - Since we have so many text columns now, let's just have one text painting function, instead of reimplementing it each switch case [03:52] anyone here interested in a session during app developer week? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [08:38] [muon] pino * 1172407 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/Messages.sh fix message extraction [08:38] [muon] pino * 1172408 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/main.cpp use the muon catalog as main in moun-installer [09:33] happynoff: but you can only build the whole source package, not part of it [09:34] for packaging anyway, you can compile only part of the source code but you can't make only 1 of the .debs [09:35] Ok maybe there is another way to test my patch, 'cause losing 20/25 minutes each time I change a line is long. [09:35] I tried to cmake/make/make install Arl [09:35] Ark* [09:35] yes, you don't need to build the .deb to test some code changes [09:35] but when I call it I get an error telling that a plugin was not found [09:36] mkdir build; cd build; cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ..; cd ark; make; sudo make install [09:36] then only the last two are needed after each change === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [09:37] ok I'll try it thanks [09:38] what is the build directory located ? [09:38] do I need to create it in a specific path ? [09:39] could someone pleaes make bug #629753 public [09:39] Bug 629753 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/629753 is private [09:48] happynoff: create it in the top of the kdeutils sources [09:49] ok, thanks [09:49] debfx: done [09:49] thanks [09:55] Riddell: it seems to work, I'll retry to check but I would like to clean up the /usr/local install. How do I do that ? I tried make dist-clean/uninstall/fclean. is there something ? [10:00] rm -r :) [10:01] Riddell: yes but I guess there are some lib or shared files [10:01] wgrant: cool, xz is the future anyway ^^ [10:03] ScottK: thanks for the approval [10:03] JontheEchidna: thanks for review [10:04] ScottK: uploaded [10:08] apachelogger: what is your app developer week session on? [10:17] apachelogger: Once Debian supports it, we will follow quickly. [10:19] nigelb: Qt development: why you want to do it, why it is awesome and why you will love it. [10:20] wgrant: that only leaves us with 5 more years to wait then ^^ [10:20] apachelogger: Heh, yeah. [10:20] apachelogger: looking for someone to talk about plasma widgets. [10:20] can do that too [10:21] one of the topics suggested to fill the gaps in the scedule [10:21] nigelb: or maybe you can find someone in #plasma to do it [10:21] * nigelb smiles sweetly [10:21] in any case I can jump in as fallback since I had a plasma talk at last whateverweek [10:21] apachelogger: Can you ask somone you might know? [10:22] I do not know nobody :P [10:22] nigelb: just hop in and throw the qustion out [10:22] "Thanks to this little feature, my computer now runs significantly faster. You could even call it 'snappy' :)" [10:22] <3 raster [10:23] JontheEchidna: we should implement a RAM chexx0r and set raster as backend if RAMz > 2 GiB or so [10:23] according to thiago raster works all end every time [10:23] also from a techical POV I do not see why it shouldnt work [10:24] or is it technological [10:24] well [10:24] a techfoo POV [10:25] hm [10:26] JontheEchidna: also what do you think about raising the warning barrier for running out of space as to maybe avoid bug reports related to that? [10:26] * apachelogger thinks that apt should check and warn before installing anyway [10:31] apachelogger: I asked! If they eat me alive I'll just direct to you [10:37] Sigh, even worse. No response. [10:51] apachelogger: hi, I followed the guidelines reported on your blog about qt graphics system, but it doesn't show up in system settings, not even when using the search field - can you help please? [10:51] that is interesting [10:51] lelamal: when you run sudo make install [10:52] what does the output look like? [10:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com please [10:52] apachelogger: I installed it yestarday, should I give the command again? [10:53] lelamal: please [10:53] maybe it installed to a wrong path [10:53] Riddell: do you know which option I need to pass to cmake/make to enable debug messages ? 'cause I don't see the kDebug messages. thanks [10:55] hm [10:55] oh [10:55] uh [10:55] sweet [10:55] * apachelogger just found a way to detect the backend in use [10:55] (sort of) [10:56] happynoff: DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull I think [10:56] valorie: I'll try it, thanks [10:57] apachelogger: sorry for being slow http://pastebin.com/KR1gUsrQ [10:58] lelamal: sudo make uninstall && cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr && make && sudo make install [10:58] it wont work in /usr/local since KDE only looks for desktop files in it's default prefix [10:58] (kde4-config --prefix that is) [10:59] happynoff: also make sure it's on in kdebugdialog [11:00] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com [11:00] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/aXEiAhKA sorry [11:00] oh, also I was at my cardiologist's today and apparently I took no permanent damage from my illness in february \o/ [11:00] lelamal: sudo make uninstall && cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr .. && make && sudo make install [11:00] sry ^^ [11:00] actuallty you can ditch the uninstall [11:01] Riddell: the kdebugdialog ? sorry I'm a noob at it :/ [11:02] happynoff: run it, it's a command [11:02] lets you turn on debugging output [11:02] Riddell: I just did and it seems to be enabled :) [11:03] Riddell: thanks [11:04] apachelogger: what do you mean? I have to remove it from the command, and give only:sudo cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr && make && sudo make install [11:04] lelamal: cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr .. && make && sudo make install [11:06] apachelogger: that was it, it's now in System Settings, thank you! :) - can I remove that folder from my desktop directory? [11:07] lelamal: yes [11:08] apachelogger: ok, sorry for asking, and many thanks for the KCM and your support! [11:08] lelamal: you're very welcome [11:12] Hmmm. I seem to have bitten off more than I can chew, would someone like to tackle a package or two off of http://files.kolab.org/apt/ubuntu/dists/lucid/kdepim-e35-extras/source/ ? I had done arts, but I had a feeling I'd be shot if I didn't run 'shred -zu' on it, and kdepim proper is nearly done; I just fear running out of time. [11:13] ryanakca: there's no actual kdepim source? [11:13] I see only kdepim i18n [11:14] Riddell: I have http://files.kolab.org/apt/snapshots/dists/karmic/kdepim-enterprise35/source/kdepim_3.5.10.enterprise.0.20100831.1170137-kk1.dsc [12:00] dpm: what is the last day for uploading packages with translations to be imported into launchpad and what is the last day to do translations in launchpad for the release? [12:06] hey Riddell, the last day to do translations in LP for the release is September 30th as per the LanguagePackDeadline on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule - some few packages are subject to an earlier deadline (NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline on September 16th). As per the last day to upload packages with translations, in theory it should be the same date as for LanguagePackTranslationDeadline, September 30th. However, it depends on the [12:06] load of Rosetta and how quickly translations are imported, so I'd recommend uploading those a day or two earlier - or even more, if you are intending to upload a full KDE release [12:12] JontheEchidna: hoy [12:12] moin [12:13] the download page looks great now :) [12:14] I'd like to get the % column smaller, and the URI column bigger, but thanks :) [12:15] but I don't see the point of a QHash to store data in fields we know about, wouldn't an object instantiated from a private class be more appropriate? [12:15] that would probably be faster [12:16] yes :) [12:16] and a private class would be much less convoluted, as a means of getting the info [12:16] no need to lookup a hash table when the fields are hard-coded [12:17] (oh, we need to reimplement scrollTo to get feature parity too) [12:17] I'll have to head off to classes in a bit, so feel free to make the necessary changes. [12:18] maybe when I'll be a bit less asleep :p [12:19] dpm: We've already uploaded the final full KDE update for Maverick. [12:19] apachelogger: Your kcm lacks a versioned build-depend on Qt 4.7 even though your cmake requires 4.7. [12:20] ScottK: I might update the kde-l10n packages with new desktop translations for extragear bits closer to release [12:20] OK. [12:20] well [12:21] technically it also builds with < 4.7 :P [12:21] that check is only there since I did not bother to implement a runtime check [12:22] apachelogger: Except it won't build with < 4.7 since it will fail the CMake check. [12:23] yeah, but maverick only got 4.7... [12:23] Right, but based on build-depends it'd be fine on Intrepid and later when in fact it only works on Maverick (or Lucid with PPA). [12:24] bbl [12:25] apachelogger: I'm attempting to accept it (no promises about LP), but please fix that. [12:26] *nod* [12:26] actually it could only build on lucid [12:26] debhelper and pkg-kde-tools should only be satisfiable in lucid and above [12:32] hm [12:32] Nightrose: should I ever come to finish the release script ... it will be heaven on earth [12:33] * apachelogger is using it for his kcm and that thing is sweet like a jar of honey [12:33] Built fast too. Already in binary New. [12:35] apachelogger: Might be better to relax the CMake check. The highest dependency in the binary is on Qt 4.5.3. [12:36] So I doubt it needs more than that to build. [12:36] no [12:36] yes [12:37] ScottK: the check is only there to prevent people from using it on setups < 4.7 [12:37] since I do not have a nice way of checking this at runtime yet [12:37] apachelogger: Then the run-time depends versions are wrong. [12:38] probably [12:42] 1.1 released [12:42] comes with funky stuff to detect the current standard backend :D [12:42] The graphics engine in use seems to be: [12:42] ----->>>>> Raster <<<<<----- [12:42] :D :D :D [12:47] [libqapt] gmartres * 1172509 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp QAptBatch: sets the focus to the appropriate button for each mode [12:47] hm [12:47] ScottK: now I am not even sure if the runtime dep should be bumped... [12:47] you can still use it with say 4.6 [12:47] but the setting will only apply to 4.7 apps [12:48] so if you used lucid and had a kde-devel setup with Qt 4.7 you could still use it but it would only affect your devel setup [12:48] Hmmm. What qualifies and app as a 4.7 app? [12:48] OK. [12:48] ScottK: hi, i wanted to ask , does kubuntu have any artowrk mailing list? or is there no need for a kubuntu specific one? it seems that most of the artwork comes from upstream.. wallpapers/themes/.. [12:48] vish: We use kubuntu-devel for it when needed. [12:49] So no. [12:50] apachelogger: It's in the archive now. Please fix it up as you decide is best. [12:50] ScottK: k.. but what artwork do we change in kubuntu? the boot animation is one that i can notice.. i'm trying to find out if derivatives need artwork and if some of the concerns are not addressed.. xubuntu folk need help.. so was wondering about kubuntu. [12:50] I'm going to send this to upstream translators to tell them what needs doing if they want Kubuntu translated https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Translations [12:50] apachelogger: Also don't forget to mark the needs-packaging bug fix released. [12:50] ScottK: I'll bump the build-dep ... runtime checking is more an upstream thing IMHO [12:51] vish: We're in pretty good shape this cycle. The installer is probably the place with the most of it. We needed help last cycle on the branding stuff and got it (if somewhat late). [12:52] vish: we change very little artwork, upstream artwork rocks, so there's not much need [12:52] Riddell, please send it to the ubuntu-translators list as well [12:52] although I notice that usb-creator still needs an updated icon [12:52] dpm: good idea [12:53] Riddell: ScottK: neat thanks.. yeah , kubuntu upstream has pretty good artwork :) [13:32] Riddell, thanks a lot for the work on compiling the list of translations and for the e-mail to upstream and downstream translators! [13:33] Anyone have ATI video, running maverick, and able to test some kwin changes? [13:34] dpm: I still need to check all the kubuntu specific apps actually pick up the translations properly (no reason why they shouldn't but good to be sure) [13:35] dpm: are you able to get the output of the upstream/downstream comparison tool sometime? [13:35] dpm: are the launchpad priority translations for kubuntu matching the ones on that wiki page? [13:36] Riddell, sorry I missed that on the Kubuntu Translations day. I won't probably be able to do this today, but I'll add it on my TODO for tomorrow. The same with priorities: they're not matching the wiki yet, but I'll sort them out [13:37] Riddell: Current i386 live CD is 13MB smaller than amd64. Perhaps we should bump up the translations a bit on i386? [13:39] Riddell: thanks for your mail, it's a great help by translations [13:40] ScottK: for beta I only added a couple of translations, we should fill up the CDs with translations now [13:44] Riddell hey [13:45] hi sheytan [13:45] I see that the kubuntu installer slideshow polish translation sucks. I can translate it, but i need someone to tell me how ;) [13:45] dpm: ^^ [13:50] sheytan, "it sucks" is not a very accurate description. If there are translations that need fixing and you would help with that, you can submit translation suggestions at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu/pl/+translate - after that, you should contact the Polish translators to review and accept your suggestions. You can get in touch with them here: https://launchpad.net [13:50] /~ubuntu-l10n-pl [13:50] ScottK: re ati video: yes, I have a HD 4850 [13:51] desktop effects don't work at all with the radeon driver [13:51] debfx: Could you test the kdebase-workspace in my ppa and see if it's any better/different? [13:58] rgreening: How come usb-creator requires a local iso to burn onto a stick? [14:04] debfx: radeon does not work on maverick at all [14:04] eh [14:04] fglrx that is [14:04] * apachelogger messes up the names ^^ [14:25] ScottK: what should be better with your workspace package? [14:25] apachelogger: Hopefully better desktop effects. [14:26] dont see nothing different on ati [14:26] apachelogger: What are you running it with? [14:26] that is ... it only works with xrender either way [14:26] OK. [14:27] The idea is to force some stuff back to indirect without blur so they can have effects. [14:27] on some mobility radeon hd 5000 [14:27] Hopefully mgraesslin will reappear and we can discuss. [14:30] apachelogger: What happens when you try to change effects setting while they are activated? [14:30] This is, hopefully, part of solving KDE Bug 241402. [14:30] ScottK: no error but no effects either [14:30] KDE bug 241402 in compositing "kwin freezes when changing related settings in systemsettings while compositing is active" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241402 [14:30] that is when I switch form xrender to opengl [14:31] so from my POV that is a regression because before it was not wanna let me use opengl [14:32] now it says desktop effects are on even though they are clearly not (judging from missing shadow and opaque panel...) [14:32] Odd. [14:34] hm [14:35] something tells me the openoffice-kde foo expects Qt to use the native backend implicitly [14:37] um when i logged in i had no KWin running [14:38] * shadeslayer wonders why [15:02] hm [15:02] seems ooo needs to make sure whenever it tries to get a kapp that it sets the graphicssystem to native [15:04] nigelb: any talkers yet? [15:04] apachelogger: quick question, why do we provide just one wallpaper on the live CD? ubuntu provides so many .... i feel sad [15:05] because we need to squeeze a crapload of gtk on the CD and KDE wallpapers consume super amounts of space [15:05] we have gtk on the CD ? :O [15:05] OOo ?? [15:05] I am almost certain we do [15:06] also amarok is in a relationship with GTK I recon [15:06] they even have glib babies together! [15:06] what should i blame for gtk? [15:06] yes I saw it [15:06] GAHHHHHHH [15:06] I was going all greppy on their source [15:06] and there it was [15:06] GLIB [15:06] * shadeslayer would like someone to kick amarok off the CD then [15:07] bring in bangarang... [15:07] shadeslayer: Won't help the gtk question until koffice becomes useful. [15:07] apachelogger: none at all [15:07] ScottK: ah so its OOo as well... [15:07] we surely cant kick that off... [15:07] nigelb: you were not naggy enough then ;) [15:08] apachelogger: yes, I didn't want to be kicked out [15:09] nigelb: your a student or work ? [15:09] *or do you work ? [15:09] shadeslayer: both, why? [15:10] nigelb: intrested in writing a paper on network security > [15:10] shadeslayer: No way. Network is totally not my thing. [15:10] ah well then.. :) [15:12] ScottK: apparently rekonq does not have the borders on slackware plasma-netbook [15:12] ( IIRC this is what we want right? [15:13] Sounds right. [15:13] BTW, rekonq + cnn video = Fail. [15:14] hehe... someone just reported on #rekonq that it doesnt have windeco with kde 4.4.3 [15:14] ScottK: I hear rekonq + ccn = fail [15:14] ScottK: time to report bug ;) [15:14] apachelogger: shadeslayer's right here, so I just did. [15:15] k ^^ [15:15] its CNN's fault :D [15:15] they dont like FOSS [15:16] having a looksie .. compiling... [15:17] ScottK: any particular vids? [15:18] shadeslayer: I tried a few. None worked. The wildcat miners one in particular [15:18] shadeslayer: Works on chromium [15:18] seems your right [15:18] wait [15:19] AHA! [15:19] ScottK: blame it on stupid adblock [15:19] ScottK: http://imgur.com/Fopzs [15:20] shadeslayer: Please fix. [15:21] Even when I click on it, the most I ever got was audio. [15:21] cant really do anything, ive been complaining we need better adblock list [15:21] Why can't we fix that one? [15:21] * shadeslayer got audio as well [15:21] Where's the list? [15:21] its the easy block adblock list [15:21] oi [15:22] it works with adblock now [15:22] 0_o [15:22] We install that by default? [15:22] rekonq downloads it by default [15:22] ( its freely available from the net ) [15:23] but i got it to work with adblock as well now [15:23] Riddell: ^^^ downloading random stuff from the net by default I think is not a good plan. [15:24] its just a list of regex [15:24] and even chromium uses that list ( if you install the adblock plugin ) [15:25] shadeslayer: It's the by default thing I have a problem with. [15:25] hmm... [15:25] If a user asks for it, fine. [15:25] you can easily disable it [15:25] * apachelogger has a problem with adblock by default anyway [15:25] ( via a patch ) [15:25] not the first time it causes problems [15:26] We shouldn't ship it enabled by default. [15:26] apachelogger: we had this discussion at a point earlier as well right? [15:26] yeah :P [15:26] I also had it disabled [15:26] jr did not agree and reverted [15:26] we've had this discussion for years, in the end we've always decisded to go with giving users a useful feature by default rather than not [15:26] * apachelogger also does not care enough to open up that box again ^^ [15:27] * Riddell runs out [15:27] Riddell: Not working with cnn.com is a feature? [15:27] in rekonq and khtml 4.5 the situation is a bit different in that it is super easy for the user to get adblocking now [15:27] * ScottK runs out too. [15:27] (since we now have autodownload facilities for the lists) [15:30] ScottK: im trying to confirm your issue, but it seems to be fixed in git, could just be that rekonq is trying to cache a part of the video before starting it, trying to confirm with other people in #rekonq anyways [15:31] OK. Thanks. [15:33] what is the general direction of the browser for KDE/Konqueror in the future? [15:34] Will Konqueror go to a more standard base? [15:34] The reason why I ask, I approached a webapp site to include konqueror support, and they are reluctant due to the lower usage of it [15:35] So we are somewhat at the point of where these things need to be fixed... in the browser or at the websites [15:38] ScottK: oh and have a look here : http://imagebin.org/113064 [15:59] * apachelogger fixes apturl protocol file [16:11] hmmm [16:11] I wonder if there is a reason the apturl packages are arch: all and not any [16:15] nigelb: I could do a Widgetcraft talk on thursday [16:15] apachelogger: you can? SERIOUSLY? [16:15] * nigelb hugs apachelogger [16:15] ScottK: opengl desktop effects still don't work [16:16] nigelb: javascript or cpp? [16:16] last time I did javascript [16:16] ScottK: xrender works even though the kcm says that desktop effects aren't available on my system [16:16] * apachelogger also finds javascript better for first timers [16:16] apachelogger: I'd leave it to you :) [16:16] also the all effects tab is empty [16:16] apachelogger: 1600 or 1700? [16:16] 1600 [16:17] I have exams on friday ^^ [16:18] Hmmm. [16:22] ⚠ Widgetcraft [16:23] apachelogger: many thanks! Addddded. [16:23] that looks all sorts of magic [16:23] nigelb: cool, can I get a ⚠ too? ^^ [16:24] hahaha [16:24] or ❤ [16:24] ❤ is always good [16:24] err, I cna only see '?' [16:24] what font are you using? [16:25] dunno, debian default thingy [16:25] that are two of the more standard unicode symbols :O [16:25] what fail debian :/ [16:26] well then, something more ascii must be used [16:26] * apachelogger breaks fingers [16:26] apachelogger: dude, help me load a kate kpart in rekonq [16:26] O|¯|_ orz [16:26] nigelb: how about that [16:26] <3 [16:26] * apachelogger always likes a good fall ^^ [16:26] thats a fall? :S [16:26] O|?|_ orz :/ [16:27] gah [16:27] ORZ [16:27] not that awesome though [16:27] * apachelogger consults wikipedia [16:27] apachelogger: pastebin? [16:27] (*ﾟﾉOﾟ)<ｵｵｵｵｫｫｫｫｫｫｫｰｰｰｰｰｲ! [16:27] surely that will not work either [16:27] @_@ [16:28] \,,/ [16:28] there [16:28] that works [16:28] (*??O?) nigelb: @}-;-'--- [16:28] * nigelb sighs [16:28] this is getting more and more comic [16:28] debian is the suck clearly :P [16:29] nigelb: just add a <3 [16:29] somewhere [16:29] nigelb: apparently everyone leaves house in Season 3 :/ [16:29] shadeslayer: not really. [16:29] they'll be back in 6 [16:29] shadeslayer: did you fix kate yet? [16:29] meh [16:29] shadeslayer: the packaging [16:30] shadeslayer: also, when you have a minute or 60 ... someone really needs to polish up my wiki page [16:30] apachelogger: nope.. writing mail to kwrite-devel asking about ABI stablity [16:30] shadeslayer: why? [16:30] YOUR wiki page? :P [16:30] apachelogger: because debian wants to confirm [16:31] apachelogger: Because Debian dropped the headers because no one used them/not maintained and they want some promise of ABI stability to put them back. [16:31] shadeslayer: the kate/kdesdk-dev was dropped because of no guarantees about api/abi stability [16:31] debian should better be concerned with their fonts being utter crap [16:31] apachelogger: +1 [16:31] Since we want to minimize diff, it makes sense to check. [16:31] wrong priorities obviously [16:32] ScottK: I am somewhat certain that kate would want to maintain a stable API and ABI for their plugin interface ;) [16:32] which is the only package of need anyway [16:32] apachelogger: Right. We just want them to say that. [16:32] You know what happens when you assume, right? [16:32] (this is almost certainly and american idiom though) [16:32] I also know what happens when politics get in the way of UX [16:33] mgraesslin: Good afternoon. [16:33] and if we judge ABI over UX then I am very much in doubt of our mission anyway [16:33] nigelb: so, do I get a <3 [16:34] nigelb: maybe make that Plasma Widgetcraft [16:34] Widgetcraft alone is a bit too cryptic I think [16:34] mgraesslin: One of the ubuntu-x people just had me try mesa 7.9 with a driconf of http://sarvatt.com/downloads/drirc.txt and on my intel 945gme netbook I got effects by default (including blur). [16:35] Kubuntu maverick is still giving problems to change the language and locales [16:35] mail sent.. lets see their response [16:35] EagleScreen: hm? [16:35] so, who is going to replace lernid with something that looks decent? [16:35] mgraesslin: The idea is to "switch to the GL_ARB_fragment_program blur implementation with that and that might actually work, 7.9 enabled that ARB_fragment_shader option by default which was disabled on 7.8.x and it looks like that's the extension it checks to use the GLSL shader variant instead." [16:36] In language.selector I have configured the system language to British English [16:36] need to pastebin.. [16:37] apachelogger: adding <3 :) [16:37] mgraesslin: That's with a stock 4.5.1 kwin (none of your patch or the reversions) [16:37] then my locale settings is this: http://pastebin.ca/1935112 is it correct? [16:38] my irssi instance is misbehaving [16:38] only LANGUAGE is set in en_GB [16:38] EagleScreen: you restarted? [16:39] all the system or KDE? [16:39] the system [16:39] yes [16:39] apachelogger: you HAZ <3 :) [16:39] EagleScreen: also, do you get the same on a tty? [16:39] nigelb: thank you [16:39] also in tty, yes [16:40] that is interesting [16:40]