[00:10] <BajK> so afk have a lot of work to do for the webpage's 3rd revision
[00:42] <Binary1011> Hello, would anyone be able to help with a import problem I'm having with a file on a network share?
[00:43] <James147> Binary1011: that depends on what the problem is
[00:45] <Daskreech> !ask
[00:47] <Binary1011> Well, I'm using kubuntu 10.04.  When I try to import a file called bookmarks.html into firefox, I get a error window titled "Remote files not accepted" the message in the window states "you can only select local files".  Yet, I can do this same operation on a windows 7 box.  using dolphin, I can both copy and delete this same file.
[00:49] <James147> Binary1011: have you tryed coping and trying it locally?
[00:49] <Binary1011> Yes, that works just fine.
[00:49] <vbgunz> I have an external esata backup disk. everytime I plug it in I get 4 password prompts. Its getting quite annoying. anyone know what is causing this?
[00:50] <o0splitpaw0o> tesssting tesstting Quassei 1.. 2.. 3
[00:59] <Daskreech> Binary1011: Firefox is neither Gnome nor KDE so it can't make use of the code that either have to treat remote files as local
[01:00] <Daskreech> vbgunz: What File System?
[01:05] <vbgunz> Daskreech: 3 partitions have ext4 and 1 has ntfs
[01:14] <dbc254> have a drive that won't let me mount it. Whats the command to let me see all connected drives?
[01:15] <James147> dbc254: "mount"
[01:15] <Spezi> hey DarthFrog - in case you remember, just wanted to let you know, using dd to backup my laptop hdd and then write the backup to the new, larger drive worked flawlessly. even resizing several partitions did neither kill kubuntu nor vista
[01:15] <James147> dbc254: ^^ sorry, connect ones can be see with "sudo blkid -c /dev/null"
[01:15] <James147> dbc254: or "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:19] <James147> !pm | dbc254
[01:19] <vbgunz> Daskreech: I think I solved the prompts. device notifier was set to automatically mount known media. I believe also my esata is not being picked up like its usb counterpart. long story short, I stop automatically mounting known media and those prompts no longer show up. neither does the drive *but* mount works just fine
[01:20] <dbc254> !pm | james147
[01:20] <James147> ^^
[01:20] <dbc254> I have one drive, that when viewed with Dolphin, has a slash. The others have a little key
[01:21] <dbc254> What does this mean? When I click on the drive, it's like it's not there. Can't select it. What gives!?!?!
[01:22] <James147> dbc254: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo blkid -c /dev/null"
[01:24] <pingveno> Is there a way to downgrade from Firefox 4? Vimperator isn't available for Firefox 4, so I want to downgrade until it is available.
[01:26] <James147> pingveno: how did you install version 4?
[01:27] <pingveno> Apparently via the normal updates process
[01:27] <pingveno> Oh
[01:27] <pingveno> I did one custom source...
[01:28] <James147_> pingveno: :S aptitude only see version 3.6.8
[01:28] <James147_> here ^^ with the backports enabled
[01:29] <pingveno> Yeah
[01:29] <pingveno> hmm
[01:29] <James147_> pingveno: did you add an extra ppa to get it? if so you should beable to remove that then reinstall firefox
[01:30] <Spezi> i think they never offer an update to a new major release in the official sources anyway right?
[01:31] <James147_> Spezi: not the offical ones no, but you can add extra ones to do that if you like (such as the backports ppa)
[01:31] <Spezi> yeah sure
[01:35] <pingveno> Ah, I had registered a software source for beta releases.
[01:35] <pingveno> Well, I think that's what happened.
[01:36] <James147_> pingveno: :) then you should beable to remove it then reinstall firefox
[01:37] <pingveno> Okay, I think I reverted back successfully
[01:38] <pingveno> Vimperator, my love, you have returned.
[01:49] <drunkncrew> i don't know how many of  you are active gnome users, but there is a program called Ubuntu Tweak for gnome that is just awesome, i was wondering if there was anything like that for Kubuntu or KDE?
[01:50] <James147_> drunkncrew: quite afew of the thins in that also work for kubuntu (the non gnome spicific ones) but, no there isnt an altenitive
[01:50] <elslunko> drunkncrew: I think besidres the repo stuff, kde is very maleable by default.
[01:50] <James147_> ^^yeah :) kde has less of a need for it being as cusamisable as it is :)
[01:51] <drunkncrew> i am brand new to KDE, only been using it for a few days
[01:51] <James147_> drunkncrew: then welcome :) and we hope you enjoy it as much as we do
[01:51] <drunkncrew> cuz I mainly use ubuntu on my netbook,but now I have this powerful desktop and it can handle KDE, so I'm giving it  a shot and am liking it
[01:51] <elslunko> remember that ctrl+m hides your menu in most windows
[01:51] <elslunko> which I didn't know
[01:52] <elslunko> and got freaked out about before LOL.
[01:52] <elslunko> Besides that, you can unlock your toolbar positions and customize the buttons in the same way across almost all kde4 programs.
[01:52] <James147_> drunkncrew: why cant your netbook handel kde? mine handels it fine
[01:52] <elslunko> So you can adjust them how you want them visually.
[01:52] <drunkncrew> i once tried KDE on my netbook and it took 5 minutes to open amarok
[01:52] <elslunko> Truth be told, amarok is heavy.
[01:52] <elslunko> Especially if you come from rhythmbox
[01:53] <drunkncrew> james147_: I dunno, well it handles it alright, but it's just not as  zippy on th netbook as gnome
[01:53] <James147_> drunkncrew: what version of kde? (and how old is your netbook)?
[01:53] <e_t_> What model netbook?
[01:53] <drunkncrew> james147_: my netbook is an HP mini 110 and is only a year old
[01:53] <drunkncrew> i detest the netbook versions of the OS
[01:55] <elslunko> yeah I heard it wasn't that great
[01:55] <elslunko> I'll probably go gnome on my netbook whenever I end up buying it.
[01:55]  * James147_ loves the netbook version of plasma on his netbook
[01:56] <drunkncrew> gnome is just a lot lighter thane KDE, imo , but on my desktop I'm lovoin KDE
[01:56] <elslunko> Same.
[01:56] <elslunko> Though both are really good to me so it's hard to decide.
[01:56] <James147_> its not that much "lighter" but it is slightly more responsive :)
[01:56] <elslunko> Waiting 'till the release of maverick to have both installed on my desktop to switch whenever I change moods.
[01:56] <elslunko> What James147_ said
[01:57] <James147_> elslunko: "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-netbook"  and you will have them both
[01:57] <elslunko> How well would it work on 1680x1050
[01:57] <James147_> (or probally just plasma-netbook)
[01:57] <elslunko> oh
[01:57] <elslunko> its just a plasmoid then
[01:57] <James147_> elslunko: no, its a plasma shell, replaces plasma-desktop
[01:57] <jcgs> hi, does anyone know why the ` key requires two presses?
[01:58] <elslunko> Ohhhh gotcha.
[01:58] <James147_> jcgs: ? to do what?
[01:59] <jcgs> James147_: maybe it's just in the uk layout, but it have to press it twice to get it to work
[01:59] <James147_> elslunko: it dosnt work as well on larger screen, it maximises windows and gets rid of their border when maximised, great for smaller screen
[01:59] <James147_> jcgs: uk here and I only have to once
[01:59] <elslunko> James147_: Have you tried unity?
[01:59] <James147_> elslunko: unity?
[02:00] <jcgs> James147_:orly? how do i fix that, it appears to be causing me mega problems in screen
[02:00] <elslunko> James147_: The netbook gnome interface being developed for Ubuntu. I think that's what it's called.
[02:00] <James147_> jcgs: no clue, its always behaved the same.... :S
[02:00] <Key_Gruin> any kasablanca users here? there doesn't seem to be a way to bookmark a local file list to go with a server.
[02:01] <James147_> elslunko: have seen it, havent really trye dit though
[02:03] <elslunko> One of the bigger reasons I want to use gnome though is because one of my photos got chosen to be a default wallpaper for 10.10. Kind of a silly reason.
[02:04] <James147_> :p
[02:05] <James147_> elslunko: then isent it also in kde? (or do you mean `the` default?)
[02:05] <James147_> ^^ kubuntu i mean
[02:05] <elslunko> I dunno. When I installed kubuntu I only got 1 wallpaper.
[02:05] <elslunko> 10.04 that is.
[02:05] <James147_> elslunko: yeah, there are extra packages for the wallpapaers
[02:05] <elslunko> James147_: Ahhh. Let me find it.
[02:06] <drunkncrew> ya, that's all I got, but one kool thing about kubuntu is it's linked wtih kde-look.org
[02:06] <drunkncrew> i thnk that's an awesome feature
[02:07] <James147_> elslunko: might end up in ubuntu-wallpapers[-extra]  but you should also look at plasma-wallpapers-addons  :) can have animated wallpapers with that
[02:07] <elslunko> If you're into the silver oxygen look there's a good tutorial out there for making gtk apps look very integrated
[02:08]  * James147_ likes the "virus" wall paper :)
[02:09] <elslunko> drunkncrew: One application you might look into is Yakuake. If you run many commands via terminal.
[02:09] <elslunko> drunkncrew: and alt+f2 for launcher stuff
[02:09] <drunkncrew> elslunko: I do use both
[02:09] <James147_> same :D
[02:11] <elslunko> I used this for my gtk apps http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen-Molecule+KDE+&+GTK++unified+theme?content=103741
[02:12]  * James147_ tends to just not use gtk apps...
[02:13] <elslunko> The only two I use are tomboy notes & gimp
[02:13] <elslunko> Oh and firefox
[02:13] <drunkncrew> yakuake seems pretty cool, should I just add it to my startup programs to always have it available??
[02:13] <elslunko> drunkncrew: Think it does that by default.
[02:13] <drunkncrew> i've switched to chromium for browsing
[02:13] <James147_> drunkncrew: by default when you shutdown or logout kde all open aplications are saved, and restored when you logback in
[02:14] <drunkncrew> james147_: i forgot about that
[02:14] <James147_> drunkncrew: and I think that is one that also adds its self to an auto start list
[02:16] <James147_> elslunko: you might be intrested in basket (kde note taking app)
[02:16] <James147_> although I dont know how they compaire
[02:17] <elslunko> James147_: As long as it synced with ubuntuone
[02:17] <elslunko> Well maybe not, I'll take a look.
[02:18] <James147_> uses nepomuk to store its notes, so can sync with what ever that can :)
[02:19] <elslunko> James147_: it definately has a lot more going on than tomboy
[02:21] <evil> I have been using basket for a few months now and it rules circles around tomboy
[02:21] <elslunko> Yeah it does. I'm going to have to transfer everything over.
[02:21] <James147_> ^^ just remember to backup your notes :) (espically before upgrading to a newer kde version)
[02:21] <evil> can basket easily sync with an android phone? Never really looked into it but it seems like it would be useful
[02:22] <James147_> evil: dont know what it would sync to...
[02:31] <elslunko> Sweet. I can drag in photos from firefox for moodboarding
[02:43] <vbgunz> I've gone over and over man mount and man fstab and I am getting burnt. the users or user or owner options are jokes. I cannot mount my esata partitions without always being asked for my password. what gives?
[02:47] <realburb> hi i have a dvb-t stick, is kaffeine still the standard program for TV in KDE 4?
[02:49] <James147_> realburb: it has TV options in it still :)
[02:49] <realburb> mhm kk thanks
[03:21] <maple> 我就来看下 你们谁看的懂中文
[05:16] <sagaci> hey, i'm looking for an option to shrink the panel at each end, like in pardus. I'm using Kubuntu 10.04.
[05:21] <sagaci> never mind, found it
[05:21] <DeathKitten> cool. What setting was it?
[05:27] <sagaci> just manually resizing the panel. It's an automagic thing in pardus
[05:28] <DeathKitten> ah
[05:28] <Chr|s> How do I uninstall ubuntu desktop? I just installed kubuntu. Kubuntu is so much better than I thought
[05:28] <DeathKitten> Did you dual boot between the two, or did you just install the kubuntu desktop?
[05:29] <Chr|s> DeathKitten: just installed the kubuntu desktop
[05:29] <DeathKitten> Which package manager are you using, synaptic?
[05:29] <Chr|s> yes
[05:30] <Chr|s> would it be better if I did a clean fresh install of kubuntu? I have nothing to lose really.
[05:30] <DeathKitten> You should be able to search for the gnome packages within synaptic, and just remove them if you want. It doesn't really harm anything to leave them.
[05:30] <Chr|s> oh ok
[05:31] <DeathKitten> Eh, it's six of one, half a dozen of another really. There are some minor differences between the settings and packages for the underlying stuff like the login screen and your boot loader. If it's working as is, you don't need to reinstall with kubuntu from the start, but feel free to give it a go if you're curious :D
[05:32] <Chr|s> Yeah, have nothing else better to do lol
[05:32] <DeathKitten> Well, if you have nothing better to do, install away :D However, you could also look for new packages, or try setting up a dual boot with the current 10.10 beta.
[05:33] <Chr|s> k thanks
[05:41] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[05:41] <DeathKitten> hi
[05:42] <JnCrWe> Hi.
[05:42] <phoenix_> hello DeathKitten
[05:42] <phoenix_> hello JnCrWe
[05:42] <phoenix_> how to disable pop up messages
[05:43] <DeathKitten> pop up messages?
[05:43] <phoenix_> the one i get when i place my mouse over the kmenu
[05:43] <DeathKitten> um, yeah, there should be a way to fix that.
[05:43]  * DeathKitten goes to look
[05:46] <DeathKitten> hmm, I don't have any pop up messages on my menu. But I don't recall actually disabling it. Which menu version are you using? The classic or the kickoff?
[05:47] <DeathKitten> Or do you mean the one that comes up when you hover on the menu without opening it?
[05:51] <chromic> I added the kubuntu ppa to my 10.04 install, and it shows a whole bunch of "blocked" packages, is that normal?
[05:51] <DeathKitten> That usually means that you have package conflicts.
[05:52] <DeathKitten> Are you using a package manager, or apt-get on the command line?
[05:52] <chromic> I'm using the software update application from the menu
[05:53] <chromic> If I remove the ppa, the blocked packages disappear
[05:53] <DeathKitten> That usually means there are conflicts. So either they're looking for different packages than your main install, or there's something else funny going on.
[05:55] <chromic> the ppa would have new versions of kde, so would that be the cause?
[05:56] <DeathKitten> I honestly haven't used a package manager in a while. I usually use apt-get on the command line. Have you ever used the console/command line?
[05:58] <chromic> I tried aptitude safe-upgrade from konsole, it also shows a whole raft of kde-* packages as being blocked
[05:59] <chromic> I don't usually use apt-get
[05:59] <DeathKitten> Okay, that's because those packages require the installation of one or more new packages you don't already have installed, or the removal of one or more of your existing packages to proceed.
[06:00] <DeathKitten> I usually use apt-get myself. My habit is run sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade. If it has any packages held back, I'll let the regular upgrade finish, then I'll run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and carefully consider if I want to proceed based upon what packages it wants to add or remove.
[06:02] <DeathKitten> From the package manager program you're using, there should be a full upgrade option, that's what you'll need to run to get it to install all the packages. But proceed with caution. Sometimes there are problems with these packages, and you may have to do some trouble shooting once you install them.
[06:05] <chromic> ok, thanks, I'll give it a shot and see what happens
[06:05] <DeathKitten> good luck
[06:05] <chromic> thanks :)
[06:16] <phoenix_> DeathKitten: extremily sorry for the delayed reply. "i mean the one that comes up when you hover on the menu without opening it"
[06:17] <DeathKitten> no big on the late reply, phoenix_, I must admit I have that too, and I'm not sure how to turn it off. Sorry. :(
[06:18] <phoenix_> DeathKitten: ok. it is not a big problem but it annoying
[08:19] <esperegu> anyone knows why I might get these errors while trying to play a dvd: http://pastebin.com/73EnfWFE Yesterday I had the same and I solved it by reinnstalling dvdcss: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh. now the same problem but reinstalling does not help.
[08:20] <foreste> helo
[08:20] <foreste> what dowgrradde kde  4,5 to 4.4 ?
[08:27] <prabhat> hi all .. need help on setting up a music player
[08:28] <prabhat> not able to run with the default music player
[08:28] <prabhat> :(
[08:31] <foreste> help
[08:50] <happynoff> Hi there. I'm working on the kdeutils package and particularly on Ark. I'm kinda new at this. How do I only build the Ark .deb instead of all kdeutils .deb ? thanks
[09:20] <happynoff> nobody there ? :(
[09:22] <Chr|s> happynoff: what do you need
[09:22] <happynoff> I'm working on the kdeutils package and particularly on Ark. I'm kinda new at this. How do I only build the Ark .deb instead of all kdeutils .deb ? thanks
[09:23] <Chr|s> hmm, that question I can't answer. Just hang in here, someone will be able to help you soon.
[09:23] <JohnHeikkila> Which question?
[09:23] <Chr|s>  <happynoff> I'm working on the kdeutils package and particularly on Ark. I'm kinda new at this. How do I only build the Ark .deb instead of all kdeutils .deb ? thanks
[09:30] <maple> nobody there ? :(
[09:31] <Chr|s> maple: what do you need?
[09:32] <maple> nothing ， just  want to know how to use QQ
[09:33] <Riddell> hoppyite: packaging questions best in #kubuntu-devel
[09:33] <Riddell> happynoff rather ^^
[09:33] <happynoff> Riddell: ok, thanks :)
[09:33] <Chr|s> I have a clean fresh install of Kubuntu 10.04. Enabled video drivers, I go to my ATI settings to enable cross fire and I get an error stating "There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.
[09:38] <JohnHeikkila> Chr|s: Gnome menu | System | Preferences | Main Menu | Applications | Other | ATI Catalyst Control Center (super-user)" | Properties | Command
[09:39] <JohnHeikkila> Chr|s: Then Change "amdxdg-su -c amdcccle" to "gksu amdcccle"
[09:59] <blip-> hi all, I run K 10.4.  I'm using the PPA backports to get latest KDE.  I just checked for an update, there are tons of major kde packages available but I can't update - it says have been held back.  any ideas ?
[09:59] <blip->  amarok amarok-common amarok-utils ark cervisia cvsservice dolphin dragonplayer gwenview jovie k3b k3b-data kamera kate kcalc kde-window-manager kde-zeroconf kdeartwor amongst others
[09:59] <blip-> using this PPA http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu
[10:11] <Mamarok> blip-: try running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:12] <blip-> Mamarok: it's installing now, thanks
[10:20] <Mamarok> blip-: you are welcome :)
[10:50] <n8w> hey all
[10:51] <n8w> do u guys know how to run the dhrystone benchmark on linux?
[10:51] <n8w> ive downloaded it, but ive only got two files...dry2 and dry2reg
[10:52] <n8w> there is no documentation available....
[11:56] <Tm_T> hi steveire
[12:38] <tellurian> hi all. I just installed Lucid on a netbook and am looking for online documentation. Where is the canoncical resource ?
[12:38] <tellurian> for newbies that is ;)
[12:39] <tellurian> ignore that. just read the channel headers ... doh!
[13:17] <BajK> how can I set up those temperature sensors?
[13:18] <BajK> I have nvidia-settings which gives me graphics card temperatur but I cannot make the sensor plasmoid display anyhting
[13:26] <tellurian> anyone know what ( if any ) AV packages are installed into Lucid by default ?
[13:26] <Pici> tellurian: None.
[13:26] <tellurian> Pici: tnx
[13:26] <Pici> tellurian: Antivirus is generally not needed with Linux unless you're scanning files for Windows users.
[13:27] <tellurian> Pici: even if the Linux machine in question receives mail ?
[13:28] <Pici> tellurian: Well the viruses are going to run on Linux, but if you're going to be sharing those files with Windows users you may want to use it.
[13:28] <tellurian> Pici: got it. thanks :)
[13:59] <ubuntu> hi
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:27] <gokuh> ciao sono primo volta installare kubuntu
[14:27] <gokuh> cmq
[14:27] <gokuh> vorrei chiedervi un piccolo aoiutu
[14:27] <gokuh> aiuto
[14:27] <Kolia> !it |gokuh
[15:08] <paulo> ola
[15:08] <paulo> sou novato  e preciso de um ajudinha
[15:08] <Pici> !br | paulo
[15:09] <paulo> so tem eu la !
[15:10] <paulo> oi
[15:10] <paulo> alguem pode me da uma maozinha ?
[15:13] <paulo> alguem poderia me dar um ajudinha com o ubunto  pois sou novato  !
[15:15] <Pici> paulo: paro o português tipo: /join #ubuntu-br
[15:30] <glaucous> I just uninstalled the ATI proprietary drivers because they were not working properly, and now I can't start KDM. I tried installing fglrx package, but still the same problem. What can I try?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> glaucous, which ati card?
[15:32] <glaucous> BluesKaj: ATI 4870 (64 bit Kubuntu)
[15:32] <glaucous> (HD4870, more specifically)
[15:37] <BluesKaj> glaucous, not sure but the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver might work if you install it from the tty , and stop kdm first
[15:38] <glaucous> BluesKaj: Got a tip to move xorg.conf and type startx, which seems to work
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ok, glaucous , remove xorg.conf or reconconfig ?
[15:41] <zematynnad> Has anyone had any luck building launchpad https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting under kubuntu?
[15:42] <glaucous> BluesKaj: I removed/backuped it and now it seems to work
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ok glaucous , good to know
[16:21] <iandeb> hello
[16:22] <v3nd3tta``> hallo iandeb
[16:22] <iandeb> have a problem burning the kubuntu 10.4.1 iso
[16:23] <iandeb> 5 cds went already to trash!!!
[16:23] <iandeb> do not know why ...
[16:23] <iandeb> used different programs on windows (alcohol, nero bruning lite, cdburnerxp)
[16:23] <iandeb> 17:07:47 (E:) MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S (0:0) - [Write ERROR], LBA: 316524, Length: 26
[16:23] <iandeb>     S:KEY - 03/0C/00  - "Write Error"
[16:23] <iandeb> error message by NERO
[16:24] <iandeb> Can anyone help?
[16:24] <iandeb> Would really like to install Kubuntu!
[16:25] <v3nd3tta``> why do you try 10.04.1 ? i still use 10.04 and i am happy with
[16:25] <iandeb> v3nd3tta``: just used the most up to date iso
[16:25] <iandeb> i am new to Ubuntu
[16:26] <iandeb> but of course not new to linux, "upgrading" from Debian SID
[16:26] <James147_> iandeb: make sure teh .iso isent crupt:
[16:26] <James147_> !md5 | iandeb
[16:27] <James147_> it can also help to burn at a slower speed
[16:27] <James147_> or just use a usb stick :)
[16:28] <James147_> !liveusb
[16:31] <iandeb> from know on I will use just CD-RW and not CD-R anymore, 5 CD were burned to trash!!!
[16:31] <iandeb> 11
[16:31] <iandeb> ^^
[16:32] <James147_> iandeb: never have much luck with cdrw... i just use usbsticks now :) never had a problem with them
[16:40] <BajK> boah, sometimes there real a*****es answering or assigned to a bug report my gosh
[16:41] <BajK> seriously, who the hell thinks anyone is ever going to activate desktop effects on a netbook? They can be glad if KDE runs at all and then the last thing to activate are desktop effekts. And what was the response “yeah just turn on desktop effects and then this window is no more longer black but working. Resolved as wontfix”
[16:41] <BajK> this just sucks
[17:56] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me figure out why I cannot bind to my yp server
[18:24] <n8w> hey
[18:24] <n8w> everytime i try to lunch an application under a different username i get this error: Session bus not found
[18:38] <mypavel> hello everybody, answer please on a dumb question: is it possible to type whole expressions in kcalc (version 2.7)?
[18:40]  * James147 prefures speedcrunch for more complicated maths... or krunner for simple ones :)
[18:41] <mypavel> James147, thank you, ive asked this because as i remember previvious calculator (not the kde4.5's one) did such tasks...
[18:43] <mypavel> seems speedcrunch was the standart calculator before :D Why did it was replaced
[18:58] <glaucous> How do I set the correct resolution pre-GUI?
[19:14] <slow-motion> re
[19:36] <manuel_> hola
[19:45] <cjae> so you cant use kwin with the propertary ati driver?
[19:45] <cjae> desktop effects
[19:46] <foreste>  helo
[19:46] <foreste> what downgrade kde 4,5 to kubunty lucid lynx ?
[19:47] <dihae> hello. since upgrading to maverick, KDE desktop effects do not work anymore. Direct rendering is still activated, but systemssettings just says:  "Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues", and then just doesn't give any reason at all.
[19:47] <foreste> what downgrade kde 4,5 to kde 4.4 kubunty lucid lynx ?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> cjae, depends on the graphics card , I can't on my older desktop with the ati x200m onboard
[19:48] <cjae> hd 4200
[19:48] <dihae> Using the opensource radeon driver, and also tried to enable/disable KMS, but that didn't help obviously
[19:58] <dihae> apparently quassel does not go to the tray when closed. how pretty annoying :)
[19:59] <BluesKaj> dihae, ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:59] <dihae> BluesKaj: will do, thanks
[20:03] <prower> hello :> anyone else using dosbox in kubuntu 10.04? it works fine for me in gnome, but in kde (4.4.2), there's no mouse movement...doesn't give me any errors back about it either :<
[20:43] <burgua> hi all!
[20:44] <burgua> I am using ubuntu now and have switched to kde. In KDM on every boot is setted "gnome" as last used DE, no matter what was really used.
[20:44] <burgua> How to set "kde"?
[20:45] <BluesKaj> burgua, at login click on then menu , choose kde
[20:45] <burgua> every time?
[20:46] <burgua> >>In KDM on every boot is setted "gnome" as last used DE, no matter what was really used.
[20:46] <BluesKaj> burgua, no itshould become default , but if you want to delete gnome then : sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop-envirnoment
[20:47] <burgua> I cannot delete it
[20:48] <Ricks937> Everyone few days when I am AFK my toolbar gets borked example: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4955246298_18dff64ffd_b.jpg so when I get back I'm missing launcher icon and clock is off by a few hours etc. Is there a known cause for this?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> that's because you running in gnome . right ?
[20:48] <burgua> Last time I runned gnome 2 weeks ago ...
[20:48] <burgua> There are few users on this laptop
[20:49] <burgua> They need gnome
[20:50] <BluesKaj> burgua ok , that's different , the you have to live with logging in to kde , each session
[20:51] <delac> can anyone tell me if Kpackagekit is able to install updates without administrative rights?
[20:51] <cjae> cant get terminatorx to launch even from cli
[20:52] <BluesKaj> cjae, what's terminatorx ? ..a game ?
[20:52] <cjae> dj soft
[20:52] <BluesKaj> delac, without using sudo, no
[20:53] <burgua> BluesKaj: but other users hadn't use it 4-5 weeks. I'm wondering, why "switcher" isn't switched to kde n kdm.
[20:54] <delac> BluesKaj: you sure? because i just installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and was prompted to update few packages. And at no point did the kpackagemanager ask me any password. And this all happened on a account that has no sudo powers.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> burgua, you could drop to a tty and do sudo service gdm stop  && sudo service kdm start
[20:55] <burgua> BluesKaj: GDM isn't started
[20:55] <BluesKaj> delac, well, that's new to me
[20:56] <delac> BluesKaj: me to. I'm trying to find out if I should file a bug on this. Should I?
[20:56] <Tm_T> delac: possibly security updates can be installed by ~any user
[20:57] <cjae> BluesKaj: dj software
[20:57] <delac> Tm_T: not on pure ubuntu. as far as I know, that is.
[20:58] <delac> Tm_T: but are you saying that on Kubuntu it is possible?
[20:59] <BluesKaj> burgua, i don't understand , what desktop are you running then ?
[21:00] <Tm_T> delac: it's possible in Ubuntu too, policykit++
[21:00] <delac> Tm_T: you mean any user could start update manager and do the updates?
[21:00] <burgua> BluesKaj: kde
[21:01] <Tm_T> delac: possible, don't know if that's default setup though
[21:01] <BluesKaj> burgua, so what are you complaining about?
[21:02] <burgua> BluesKaj: I boot. KDM is started. I'm switching to "kde" (Previous session was kde too), cause now it's setted to "gnome". I'm booting to kde.
[21:03] <delac> Tm_T: well, apparently it didn't work. I just tried. but how would that policykit thing work? is that enabled by default on kubuntu-desktop?
[21:04]  * BluesKaj shrugs ...still don't understand , burgua ...I give up
[21:04] <burgua> BluesKaj: dunno it
[21:05] <glaucous> I can't enable OPEN_GL composition, only xrender. There are no problems with my ATI/Graphics drivers, which work perfectly with opengl.
[21:05] <cjae> can t install any dj software that works
[21:06] <foreste> help
[21:06] <Tm_T> delac: is on by default, it allows to control user rights more extensively than standard file rights -based can
[21:07] <foreste> what prewious kde 4,5 to kde4.4 ?
[21:07] <foreste> please help
[21:10] <delac> Tm_T: so you are saying this is normal kubuntu behaviour and I should not file a bug?
[21:12] <Tm_T> delac: I don't know what kind of setup with policykit is default
[21:13] <Tm_T> delac: if in doubt, file a bug with detailed information
[21:15] <delac> Tm_T: maybe I should. You did say that doing the updates without sudo doesn't work on pure kubuntu?
[21:20] <cjae> good qt dj software
[21:22] <Tm_T> delac: I don't know really about the defaults
[21:23] <delac> delac: Can anyone using Kubuntu to confirm if it is possible to install updates WITHOUT administrative privileges?
[21:24] <delac> Tm_T: allthoug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-kde/+bug/353278 check the comment #79
[21:25] <delac> Tm_T: this might be becaus of missing policykit-kde. but that comment was made a while ago. I wonder if anyone is working on that?
[21:44] <Pavel_10> can anyone help me figure out what the pixel dimensions of a 10.1" screen would be?
[21:45] <glaucous> What does .kdevduchain contain? A lot of files there.
[22:33] <MuzerNtbk> Every now and again, on this netbook, a dialogue box pops up, owned by kded4, that looks like this: http://tim32.org/~muzer/kde-scary-box.png
[22:34] <MuzerNtbk> why is this? Is it something weird that I've done, something weird with Kubuntu/KDE, or some weird trojan trying to steal my password (I doubt the latter very much, but I won't rule it out...)
[22:34] <pronk> to list all the partitions and there names i used fdisk -l but kubuntu does not have it. What is the command under kubuntu?
[22:35] <MuzerNtbk> it should have fdisk... if not, install it from the repo.
[22:35] <MuzerNtbk> Make sure you're running it as root (prefix the command with sudo)
[22:36] <pronk> sudo worked
[22:37] <MuzerNtbk> ah, you probably don't have /sbin in your path then. Odd, I thought it was there in *Ubuntu by default...
[22:40] <Tm_T> MuzerNtbk: is this when you're browsing websites or do you use ubuntuone?
[22:40] <Tm_T> (don't know why I asked the latter though)
[22:40] <MuzerNtbk> Tm_T: I don't use Ubuntu One (knowingly, at least), and I use Opera for browsing (and Opera has its own style of dialogues)
[22:41] <Tm_T> hmmm, weird
[22:42] <KukuNut> pronk: remove gnome and/or kde and *ubuntu should be the same/have the same system tools
[22:42] <MuzerNtbk> Tm_T: yeah... I honestly have no idea where it's coming fram
[22:42] <MuzerNtbk> *from
[22:42] <MuzerNtbk> I'm currently grepping my filesystem for the string
[22:43] <pronk> well I did have it , but i forgot sudo so it gave no error
[22:48] <Tm_T> MuzerNtbk: that's normal dialog for http-logins IIRC
[22:48] <Tm_T> MuzerNtbk: the site field is weird
[22:49] <OptiplexGX620> Hay, how do I print a text file with Kubuntu?
[22:49] <MuzerNtbk> Tm_T: indeed, that's what I was thinking... I was grepping for the site field
[22:50] <OptiplexGX620> My printer is already set up and I've printed the test
[22:51] <pronk> Open it with Kate and select print or print preview?
[22:51] <MuzerNtbk> OptiplexGX620: kate should be able to do it... there's a command-line way too if you want
[22:51] <OptiplexGX620> No, that just makes a pdf or other file
[22:52] <OptiplexGX620> What is the command line way?
[22:52] <pronk> No, pdf is an option it should also print if printer is set up
[22:52] <MuzerNtbk> yes, what pronk said
[22:52] <MuzerNtbk> (FWIW, the command-line way is lp filename.txt I think)
[22:53] <OptiplexGX620> There are two options: Print to file(pdf), print to file(postscript)
[22:54] <MuzerNtbk> hmm... have you tried restarting kate and/or logging out and back in?
[22:54] <MuzerNtbk> oh
[22:54] <MuzerNtbk> make sure you've pressed "apply"
[22:54] <MuzerNtbk> in the printer settings
[22:55] <OptiplexGX620> Yes, I presses apply earlier
[22:55] <OptiplexGX620> *pressed
[22:56] <OptiplexGX620> I havn't restarted my PC, should I try?
[22:56] <MuzerNtbk> right. In that case, try restarting kate, and if it still doesn't work, fully log out and back in again.
[22:56] <OptiplexGX620> *Haven't>Sry
[22:56] <MuzerNtbk> or you can reboot, that would also work
[22:56] <OptiplexGX620> OK, 5min...
[22:59] <OptiplexGX620> Thank you! HP LaserJet is now listed as an option
[23:00] <OptiplexGX620> Weerd.
[23:00] <drunkncrew> hello all!
[23:00] <MuzerNtbk> hi
[23:01] <drunkncrew> i'm confused by all the dock programs out there, what is the best dock program? or rather, which one has the most features/ability to customize?
[23:03] <OptiplexGX620> One more question: Why does Kubuntu(AND Windows) display .DESKTOP launcher(desktop configuration file) extensions, but Ubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. don't????
[23:04] <drunkncrew> OptiplexGX620: ubuntu does display these, only they're hidden files you just hit "Ctrl+H" in nautilus
[23:04] <OptiplexGX620> No, I have; it still doesn't
[23:05] <James147> OptiplexGX620: and kubuntu dosnt have to display them... alt+.  to toggle hidden folder in dolphin
[23:05] <OptiplexGX620> Wait, maybe I'm looking ON the desktop, not in Nautilus
[23:05] <James147> or do you mean teh *.desktop files?
[23:05] <drunkncrew> ya, try nautilus
[23:05] <OptiplexGX620> Yeah, wait a sec, I have a different computer for Ubuntu
[23:06] <OptiplexGX620> the .desktop extension, I mean
[23:07] <OptiplexGX620> Nope: no .desktop is showing
[23:07] <OptiplexGX620> ???
[23:09] <drunkncrew> OptiplexGX620: just wondering, what are you trying to locate?
[23:09] <OptiplexGX620> Nothing, just the extension. The file works, it just doesn't display the .desktop
[23:09] <cjae> what is default scan app kde 4.5 ?
[23:10] <OptiplexGX620> Ummm... me?? Confused
[23:10] <OptiplexGX620> Sry guys, I gotta go eat, I'm dying here'
[23:10] <OptiplexGX620> back in 15min
[23:12] <CrissiD_> I need help
[23:13] <James147> !help | CrissiD_
[23:13] <CrissiD_> how do i set up a dual monitor, but we don't want them mirrored, just side by side.
[23:13] <CrissiD_> I have them mirrored ad the moment
[23:13] <CrissiD_> at*
[23:13] <James147> CrissiD_: depends on what graphics card/drivers you have
[23:13] <MaxDamage> !restricted-extras
[23:13] <MaxDamage> !mp3
[23:13] <MaxDamage> I should use /msg, sorry.
[23:16] <JonathanD> card is a radeon X1600
[23:16] <JonathanD> (for CrissiD_ )
[23:18] <sithlord48> whats going on fellow kubuntu ppl
[23:19] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: Flash players lol
[23:19] <sithlord48> oh what about them?
[23:19] <MaxDamage> Just installing one now.
[23:19] <MaxDamage> Gah, gotta close FF
[23:20] <sithlord48> i would generally try not to use flash but i understand u want the youtubes and what not
[23:20] <sithlord48> yes you do :P
[23:20] <MaxDamage> Yeah, I do need flash. :p
[23:21] <sithlord48> its a shame.. flash has to be abused in the ways it gets abused.. i miss the days when flash was only for games.. on newgrounds and a few other sites. not on ever singe site wherever you look
[23:21] <MaxDamage> Oh, it came with the restricted extras package, how convenient.
[23:21] <James147> CrissiD_: This might be of help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[23:21] <sithlord48> oh thats right
[23:21] <MaxDamage> Yeah, I guess.
[23:21] <OptiplexGX620> Hay , I'm back now
[23:22] <MaxDamage> And here we go again, no sound from flash...
[23:22] <MaxDamage> :/
[23:22] <JonathanD> 2 to 1 says I break this thing trying to make it work.
[23:22] <sithlord48> go to kmixer and check make sure ur pcm is not muted and the vol is up.
[23:22] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: Yeah, the wrong sound card was selected.
[23:22] <sithlord48> JonathanD: what are we gonna break
[23:22] <MaxDamage> I love the soundcheck music. :D
[23:23] <sithlord48> MaxDamage: most of the time.. its the pcm volume
[23:23] <OptiplexGX620> Any idea as to why the heck .DESKTOP extension shows only on Kubuntu and Windows but not on Ubuntu?
[23:23] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: PCM volume is up all the way.
[23:23] <sithlord48> are they hidden in gnome?
[23:24] <sithlord48> the ext that is OptiplexGX620
[23:24] <sithlord48> MaxDamage:  your sound is working in flash now?
[23:24] <OptiplexGX620> Repeat plz?
[23:24] <JonathanD> sithlord48: video.
[23:24] <sithlord48> is the .desktop part hidden in gnome
[23:24] <James147> OptiplexGX620: if you want to get them to show up in ubuntu, then its best to ask on #ubuntu (most of us dont use gnome)
[23:25] <JonathanD> looks like: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/403610
[23:25] <MaxDamage> Blah, still no sound :(
[23:25] <OptiplexGX620> Oh
[23:25] <OptiplexGX620> Sry
[23:25] <OptiplexGX620> how do I switch?
[23:25] <OptiplexGX620> last time I typed something in this box
[23:25] <JonathanD> OptiplexGX620: to #Ubuntu?
[23:25] <JonathanD> /join #ubuntu
[23:26] <sithlord48> MaxDamage:  really... have you checked all your sound settings? be sure pcm is up , for some reason on mine my mic is called digital so it might be something else.
[23:26] <OptiplexGX620> join #Ubuntu
[23:26] <OptiplexGX620> Ummm no
[23:26] <OptiplexGX620> to #Ubuntu
[23:26] <OptiplexGX620> #Ubuntu
[23:26] <James147> OptiplexGX620: /join #ubuntu    << dont forget the /
[23:26] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: I can hear the sound check music perfectly. Yes, all the volume on my second soundcard are up.
[23:26] <OptiplexGX620> Noooo I'm making an a** of my self
[23:26] <OptiplexGX620> ah
[23:26] <MaxDamage> Hm, is it possible Firefox is using the onboard card as default?
[23:26] <MaxDamage> Hm
[23:27] <MaxDamage> Yeah, I get sound from the other card, haha.
[23:28] <sithlord48> alsa?
[23:28] <James147> JonathanD: I dont think so... that dialog is for when you have dual screen already set up :)  (its ment to tell kde where to split one large desktop into smaller ones as dual screen modes like twinview tend to join both displays into one large screen)
[23:28] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: xine
[23:28] <sithlord48> oh sorry i can't help u much w/ that..
[23:28] <sithlord48> :(
[23:28] <MaxDamage> I'll just head on to CMOS Setup and disable the onboard card. :)
[23:28] <sithlord48> there u go ..
[23:29] <MaxDamage> It's a good card, but I screwed it up. :(
[23:29] <sithlord48> JonathanD: you are trying to set up video?
[23:29] <MaxDamage> Plugged its output to my not-grounded guitar amp's input.
[23:29] <MaxDamage> lol
[23:29] <sithlord48> nicely done bet it sounds good on that channel now
[23:29] <James147> JonathanD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174   or  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773544   should show you how to set it up
[23:30] <sithlord48> JonathanD: what kind of video card do u have? and what driver are u using?
[23:32] <CrissiD_> James147: I get the message they note there,about not having multiples,but let me see
[23:32] <CrissiD_> I = JonathanD
[23:32] <sithlord48> CrissiD_: ok what video card do u have?
[23:33] <CrissiD_> radeon x1600
[23:34] <sithlord48> ati driver?
[23:34] <CrissiD_> checking
[23:34] <sithlord48> CrissiD_: sorry, do you use the properitary driver
[23:38] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: Sound is flawless. :)
[23:38] <CrissiD_> whats the best way to check what driver your using.
[23:38] <CrissiD_> oooo found it
[23:38] <CrissiD_> driver ATI
[23:38] <sithlord48> ok you use the preperitary driver
[23:39] <sithlord48> MaxDamage: Awesome !
[23:39] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: Should I switch to propriatary too?
[23:39] <MaxDamage> HD playback is choppy in full screen :(
[23:39] <CrissiD_> k
[23:39] <sithlord48> CrissiD_: try to run (alt+f2) this command kdesudo amdcccle , it should bring up the ati driver control panel set up stuff up there
[23:39] <sithlord48> MaxDamage: what card do u have?
[23:40] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS
[23:40] <MaxDamage> Flawless playback, 1080p on Windows
[23:40] <MaxDamage> If it'll help, this is the video I'm trying to view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0OJ-_b2GAI
[23:40] <sithlord48> 720P
[23:41] <MaxDamage> Yeah, it's fine when I watch it in the player, but when it goes fullscreen, 2-3 FPS
[23:41] <markit> hi, kubuntu 10.04 and kde 4.5.1, I've to run a command with kdesudo, but after entering the password nothing happens (blank terminal). If I manually open a terminal and run with sudo from the terminal is ok, also if I remove kdesudo from the menu item (of course, the script then fails in certain functionality). Any tip?
[23:42] <sithlord48> full screen is fine here other then the flicker from the desktop effects being on and its sized werid , play them back in vlc you might get better play back
[23:42] <James147> markit: what command?
[23:42] <sithlord48> markit: what James147 said..
[23:42] <James147> sithlord48: :D
[23:42] <sithlord48> James147: you typed it faster..
[23:43] <markit> James147: mmm I'm testing, with kcalc works, with my ruby script not
[23:44] <sithlord48> CrissiD_: have yo made any progress?
[23:45] <James147> markit: what is the script ment to do?
[23:45] <sithlord48> oh well MaxDamage i can't really help you with that i don't know much about the nvidia drivers.
[23:45] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: I'll just install the proprietary drivers, that worked last time on Debian. :)
[23:45] <sithlord48> well you can always remove them if they break...
[23:46] <sithlord48> MaxDamage: the newest nvidia card i have is a geforce2 ... if that gives you any idea.
[23:46] <markit> James147: thanks for the interest, it has to help the teacher manage ltsp accounts/settings/etc. I've reduced the code and works, maybe is the clear (blank) screen part that fights with kdesudo
[23:47] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: Yeah. ;P
[23:47] <MaxDamage> Well, I kinda need a strong video card, if you look at that YouTube channel, I lead the biggest "free" Modern Warfare 2 community.
[23:48] <sithlord48> oh i woun't know i don't really play FPS games.. do u run that on wine?
[23:48] <MaxDamage> I dual-boot.
[23:48] <MaxDamage> But my big drive just died, so I installed Kubuntu on an old one.
[23:48] <sithlord48> ah ic have you tired it on wine ? j/w ..
[23:48] <MaxDamage> And yes, it does run on Wine, though there seems to be a sound issue.
[23:48] <JonathanD> Not much
[23:49] <sithlord48> do you have the amdcccle program?
[23:49] <JonathanD> sithlord48: amdcccle wasn't installed.
[23:49] <MaxDamage> sithlord48: If you wanna talk about it, #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:49] <JonathanD> found it in a fglrx package
[23:49] <JonathanD> installing it seems to want the fglrx driver, as well
[23:50] <sithlord48> JonathanD: thats the properitary driver.. if you have that installed then u use the amdcccle program other wise u should use the kcm (systemsettings) module
[23:50] <JonathanD> Eh, it's not that important tonight ;)
[23:50] <JonathanD> was trying to get netflix on this ancient/lame TV without changing resolution all the time.
[23:51] <sithlord48> and what issues is the display kcm giving you?
[23:51] <JonathanD> there doesn't appear to be a way to do anything other than mirror :)
[23:52] <JonathanD> if there is, it's entirely non-obvious.
[23:52] <sithlord48> what version of kde do you have? (look under help about kde on any kdesc program )
[23:54] <markit> James147: the problem is not with blanking screen, but waiting for keyboard input. Strange but the output before is not shown, nor the input is accepted (^C to terminate). Probably better ask in #ruby-lang