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[00:50] <DrKenobi> Hi! I think that the status of Bug #106664 should be 'Triaged'.
[00:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 106664 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Screensaver unlock dialog shows too much information (heat: 2)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106664
[00:51]  * persia looks
[00:53] <persia> Yep.  That's triaged.  We know the issue.  There is a documented solution.  The issue and solution are known upstream.
[00:54] <DrKenobi> persia, can you do it? I can't do it....
[00:56] <persia> Already done.
[00:56] <DrKenobi> thanks!
[00:58] <persia> To close that bug requires someone with real interest to prepare the patch following the recipe in the upstream bug, and get it applied upstream: it's highly unlikely that will be fixed by an Ubuntu-specific patch.
[00:58] <persia> Plus, there are much more critical information-leakage bugs in gnome-screensaver :)
[01:01] <DrKenobi> persia, you r right...
[01:40] <micahg> so, someone decided to rewrite the community help bugs page...
[01:43] <Muscovy> Oh?
[01:44] <micahg> someone by the name of loldrup
[01:47] <Muscovy> ...I see.
[03:42] <hggdh> bug 632077
[03:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 632077 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "dpkg froze with InfiniteLoop in unpack() (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/632077
[03:42] <hggdh> <sigh/>
[03:43] <micahg> hggdh: did you see someone edited the bug submission page?
[03:43] <micahg> the community wiki
[03:43]  * hggdh just got worried
[03:44] <hggdh> micahg: looking
[03:44] <micahg> all the obfuscation out the window
[03:46] <hggdh> the loldrup updates, I guess?
[03:46] <micahg> hggdh: yep
[03:47] <micahg> hggdh: there's a whole discussion on the bugsquad list about what it should say
[03:47] <hggdh> yes
[03:49] <hggdh> hell, this is hell
[03:49] <nigelb> heh
[03:49] <hggdh> good intentions, and all that
[03:49] <micahg> hggdh: +100 flames
[03:49] <hggdh> micahg: I am starting to wonder how we can control it
[03:50] <micahg> hggdh: ACLs :)
[03:50] <hggdh> :-)
[03:51] <hggdh> micahg: will look at it tomorrow, tired from 8 hours of drving
[03:52] <micahg> hggdh: ugh, that's a lot of driving
[03:52] <hggdh> and pretty sure if I do something tonight I am going to regret
[03:52] <hggdh> micahg: yeah, big state, etc ;-)
[03:52] <nigelb> hggdh: go to bed :)
[03:53] <hggdh> getting there, getting there....
[03:53] <hggdh> g'night all
[03:53] <nigelb> g'nite :)
[03:54] <nigelb> micahg: with rails, isn't the sort of adivce not to install from packges?
[03:54] <nigelb> i.e. debian packages
[03:54] <micahg> nigelb: idk, but we try to make packages for things that people say shouldn't have packages :)
[03:54] <nigelb> the problem is gems :/
[03:55] <nigelb> gems and apt "apparently" keep fighting with each other
[03:55] <nigelb> every guide I looked at suggested installing gems from the website and using gems to install rails :(
[03:55] <micahg> nigelb: there was discussion on debian-devel about how to fix that
[03:56] <nigelb> yeah, indeed I saw that one, I believe we're trying to have something too.
[03:59] <persia> From a distro perspective, the advice ought always be to install from packages.  gems make this hard, and most of the Rails docs assume source installs.
[04:00] <nigelb> Yeah, so one might install from source just to follow the guides, since debian tends to not install stuff in /usr/local (rightly so)
[04:01] <nigelb> Or for instance when you have a package for rails and shoes and want to update one of them and the distro one isn't ready
[04:02] <persia> It's stability vs. features.
[04:02] <persia> Same with CPAN or cheeseshop or any of the others, except in most of those cases, people prefer stability.
[04:03] <micahg> pecl, pear
[04:03] <persia> rails is still buggy enough and being developed rapidly enough that lots of documentation needs the newest cutting-edge stuff.
[04:03] <nigelb> Exactly.
[04:03] <nigelb> sometimes your code doesn't run because you don't have the latest stuff
[04:04] <nigelb> most of the docs assume that you can always pull the source and update in a few mins
[04:04] <nigelb> Not ideal for debian/ubuntu
[04:05] <nigelb> I wonder if its worth an exception like clamav does
[04:08] <micahg> nigelb: clamav has it because of the nature of viruses, for web software though, you don't need the latest crack once you have something stable, you just need it for your next version
[06:12] <micahg> shadeslayer: just answered your application
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[08:23] <jibel> stbulicek, Hello
[08:24] <stbulicek> jibel: good morning
[08:26] <jibel> stbulicek, I sent you an email recently about the mentorship program. So here I am.
[08:27] <jibel> stbulicek, I'm hanging here from around 900CET to 1900 CET, if you need any help don't hesitate to ping me.
[08:27] <jibel> stbulicek, did you start triaging already ?
[08:30] <stbulicek> jibel: I've tried to touch some bugs some time ago. But I'm still missing the daily consitency  and also I had some questions that I can't recall atm. But this week I'll have more time and will have a look into more bugs.
[08:36] <jibel> stbulicek, ok no problem. The easier is to start with packages you're comfortable with and regularly use.
[08:36] <jibel> stbulicek, You can also participate to a bug day which are organized every thursday. During bugday, the channel is full of triager willing to help.
[08:38] <stbulicek> Yes, I'm trying to follow those that I use. I'll have a look into something and will have some questions for sure.
[08:39] <jibel> stbulicek, Great, thanks for your help!
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[10:08] <njin> Hello to all, there's a linux expert that can help ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/393090 look at the last syslog, never see a things like this, what can i tell him ?
[10:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 393090 in linux (Ubuntu) "mmc: Timeout waiting for hardware interupt (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New]
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[14:33] <shadeslayer> micahg: ok mail sent regarding your queries
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[15:12] <hggdh> OK. bug 632077...
[15:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 632077 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "dpkg froze with InfiniteLoop in unpack() (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/632077
[15:50] <abhijit> hi !!!
[15:52] <charlie-tca> Hello, abhijit
[15:52] <abhijit> charlie-tca, :D
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[17:01] <njin> If someone understand this  	 Δεν μπορώ να αναβαθμίσω το ububtu 9.04 σε ubuntu 9.10   could please teke a look at bug 465486
[17:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 465486 in ubuntu "Δεν μπορώ να αναβαθμίσω το ububtu 9.04 σε ubuntu 9.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/465486
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[17:08] <charlie-tca> The upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 failed. He is having issues with staying connected, I think
[17:09] <charlie-tca> might suggest making sure his 9.04 is fully updated first, then run the upgrade using Alt+F2, update-manager instead.
[17:10] <charlie-tca> or make sure he is using a wired connection if it is wireless
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[19:27] <njin> pedro_:
[19:28] <njin> pedro_: are you around ?
[19:29] <pedro_> njin, yeap
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[19:32] <mahfouz_> I get a fatal error with the new 2.6.35.20 kernel
[19:33] <mahfouz_> /lib/modules/2.6.35-20-generic/modules.dep not found
[19:36] <mahfouz_> which package shld I file against?
[19:43] <micahg> mahfouz_: ubuntu-bug linux
[19:43] <mahfouz_> thx
[19:56] <charlie-tca> Can updates be run and complete against the liveCD now?
[20:02] <mahfouz_> charlie-tca, I think so, but only for the live session of course
[20:02] <charlie-tca> hmm, I got a few bug reports that files are failing to update, but there is no hard drive partitions being used
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[21:06] <njin> Call to experts in NFS  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/403697  what i have to do ?
[21:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 403697 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "lstat on NFS4 hangs while bzr's trying to read the dirstate file (affects: 5) (heat: 36)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
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